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Speaker 1: Hedgither do to see how that?

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Speaker 2: By the way, in New Zealand's appointed its new CEO.

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Speaker 2: Nikkel Ravishanka is the current Chief Digital Officer who's been

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Speaker 2: promoted up. He's going to take over in October when

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Speaker 2: Greg Furum steps down. Andy Bowley is the head of

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Speaker 2: research at Fullsyth bar Hey, Andy, Hi had so well,

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Speaker 2: thank you? He seems well like. Is he a good appointment?

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Speaker 1: Oh? I think you know, in this kind of situation,

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Speaker 1: when you appoint somebody internally, the board know him pretty well,

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Speaker 1: know his skill sets and therefore have confidence in him.

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Speaker 2: Do you think it's a problem that he hasn't been

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Speaker 2: a CEO before.

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Speaker 1: I don't think it's necessarily a problem that he hasn't

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Speaker 1: been a CEO before. You get plenty of very good

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Speaker 1: CEOs that are first time CEOs. I think in light

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Speaker 1: of some of the questions or conversations I've had from

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Speaker 1: Air New Zealanders since Greg Forum's resignation was announced, the

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Speaker 1: one thing that was repeatedly suggested to me is that

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Speaker 1: they need a new CEO with deep airline experience. So

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Speaker 1: I think, you know, the bigger question here is probably

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Speaker 1: less first time CEO more around, does he have the

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Speaker 1: airline experience that many in the business well had.

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Speaker 2: I mean, this is a really good question, right because

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Speaker 2: he's not actually an aviation guy, and you could argue

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Speaker 2: that the role that he's been playing, which is digital officer,

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Speaker 2: is also it's not steeped necessarily in in like hardcore aviation.

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Speaker 2: So what do you think, Oh.

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Speaker 1: I think Nikkei is in a better position than Greg

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Speaker 1: was when he comes into the role. You know, Greg

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Speaker 1: came into this business fresh into aviation and it would

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Speaker 1: have been a very very steep learning curve, not least

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Speaker 1: because of the challenges that Greg faced. So Niki was

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Speaker 1: in a much better situation than Greg was in. But

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Speaker 1: again go back to trust, the trust the process, trust,

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Speaker 1: trust the board in putting forward the best, the best candidate.

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Speaker 2: Do you think the fact that he's been appointed would

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Speaker 2: suggest that there mustn't have been that much overseas interest

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Speaker 2: in it?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't, I don't know. You know, there's a

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Speaker 1: number of very capable, particularly New Zealanders that are in

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Speaker 1: airline positions globally, and you know typically this organization recruits

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Speaker 1: New Zealanders as its CEO.

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Speaker 2: And so what do you make of the fact that

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Speaker 2: the share prices barely moved today, was this Bakedan.

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Speaker 1: I don't think it's a surprise that he's been named CEO.

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Speaker 1: I think there's been a reasonable understanding that he was,

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Speaker 1: you know, one of the leading, if not the leading,

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Speaker 1: internal candidates, So in that regard, it's not necessarily a surprise.

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Speaker 1: But you know, share prices move on a variety of factors,

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Speaker 1: and this will be one factor that has an influence

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Speaker 1: on an US today.

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Speaker 2: Andy, good to talk to you. Thank you, Andy Bowley.

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