1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,000 Speaker 1: Who were we to believe when it comes to kids 2 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:07,840 Speaker 1: in motels, it's undeniably a disaster. Four thousand. At its worst, 3 00:00:07,840 --> 00:00:09,959 Speaker 1: we had four thousand kids living in motels and an 4 00:00:09,960 --> 00:00:13,440 Speaker 1: emergency accommodation in New Zealand. And the last lot who 5 00:00:13,480 --> 00:00:17,880 Speaker 1: said it was a complex problem that required complex solutions. 6 00:00:18,680 --> 00:00:21,279 Speaker 1: They said it would take time, and we sort of 7 00:00:21,320 --> 00:00:24,759 Speaker 1: bought that argument because it does seem incredibly complex, right. 8 00:00:24,800 --> 00:00:27,520 Speaker 1: And then yesterday the government comes along and claims to 9 00:00:27,560 --> 00:00:30,840 Speaker 1: have cut the number of households living in emergency housing 10 00:00:30,960 --> 00:00:35,400 Speaker 1: by third in six months. What's more, they said in 11 00:00:35,440 --> 00:00:39,239 Speaker 1: Auckland they've almost halved the number of people living in 12 00:00:39,320 --> 00:00:43,440 Speaker 1: emergency housing in three months. How can you have the 13 00:00:43,520 --> 00:00:46,480 Speaker 1: number of people in emergency housing in three months? Does 14 00:00:46,520 --> 00:00:48,879 Speaker 1: that make sense to you? In christ Church has gone 15 00:00:48,920 --> 00:00:51,000 Speaker 1: from two to eighty five to one hundred and eighty 16 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:57,080 Speaker 1: three in three months. They said they'd used quote intensive 17 00:00:57,240 --> 00:00:59,840 Speaker 1: work to cut the numbers. I don't know whether I'm 18 00:00:59,840 --> 00:01:03,520 Speaker 1: just cynical, but I'm do you believe that you know 19 00:01:04,240 --> 00:01:07,840 Speaker 1: or do you think there's some trick, some tricks of 20 00:01:07,920 --> 00:01:10,520 Speaker 1: you know, some fudging of the numbers here or the 21 00:01:10,560 --> 00:01:13,880 Speaker 1: categories that they're using something like that. If all we 22 00:01:13,959 --> 00:01:16,840 Speaker 1: needed was a bit of intensive work, surely we could 23 00:01:16,880 --> 00:01:20,440 Speaker 1: have cut through that long waiting list a lot earlier. 24 00:01:21,120 --> 00:01:23,800 Speaker 1: Q Karen McNulty on three News last night, having a 25 00:01:23,840 --> 00:01:24,640 Speaker 1: crack at the government. 26 00:01:24,840 --> 00:01:28,080 Speaker 2: They both claiming credit for something they didn't do, and 27 00:01:28,080 --> 00:01:31,319 Speaker 2: they're also crying about something when they've made it harder 28 00:01:31,360 --> 00:01:33,280 Speaker 2: for people to access it. 29 00:01:33,760 --> 00:01:35,360 Speaker 1: He then went on to say this. 30 00:01:35,640 --> 00:01:40,759 Speaker 3: Any honest way to deal with the issue of emergency 31 00:01:40,760 --> 00:01:44,480 Speaker 3: housing is to build more social houses, and that's the 32 00:01:44,640 --> 00:01:46,440 Speaker 3: very thing the government has pulled back on. 33 00:01:46,840 --> 00:01:50,720 Speaker 1: Wrong. There is another way that you can deal with 34 00:01:50,760 --> 00:01:54,040 Speaker 1: the problem of an increase in demand for social housing. 35 00:01:54,120 --> 00:01:57,600 Speaker 1: That's to grow an economy, to get people into well 36 00:01:57,680 --> 00:02:02,080 Speaker 1: paid jobs. Not even everybody wants to be at the 37 00:02:02,160 --> 00:02:05,480 Speaker 1: mercy of a failed social housing system, do they. 38 00:02:06,640 --> 00:02:09,280 Speaker 3: For more from News Talks at b Listen live on 39 00:02:09,360 --> 00:02:10,640 Speaker 3: air or online, and 40 00:02:10,840 --> 00:02:13,160 Speaker 2: Keep our shows with you wherever you go with our 41 00:02:13,200 --> 00:02:14,960 Speaker 2: podcasts on iHeartRadio.