1 00:00:06,693 --> 00:00:10,053 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Simon Barnett and James Daniels Afternoons 2 00:00:10,093 --> 00:00:15,813 Speaker 1: podcast from News Talks, EDB chats, laughs and the best calls. 3 00:00:16,333 --> 00:00:20,293 Speaker 1: This is the Highlight Reel with Simon Barnett and James Daniels, 4 00:00:20,333 --> 00:00:21,653 Speaker 1: powered by News Talks. 5 00:00:21,493 --> 00:00:23,533 Speaker 2: D be good a there, welcome to the show. Hey, 6 00:00:23,653 --> 00:00:27,453 Speaker 2: James Shelder, Simon good I to everyone. 7 00:00:27,213 --> 00:00:31,493 Speaker 3: It's official. I love the Olympics. Oh yeah. It was 8 00:00:31,493 --> 00:00:34,293 Speaker 3: a slow burn for me. Hated the opening ceremony and 9 00:00:34,333 --> 00:00:36,253 Speaker 3: I was like, wasn't really interested to But the first 10 00:00:36,333 --> 00:00:38,813 Speaker 3: couple of days I'm like, oh well I got the Yeah. 11 00:00:38,813 --> 00:00:40,373 Speaker 3: I was like, why am I not interested in this? 12 00:00:40,693 --> 00:00:42,573 Speaker 3: Now I'm in I'm in big, I'm in deep, I'm 13 00:00:42,613 --> 00:00:44,693 Speaker 3: in boots and all. I like when the athletics start 14 00:00:44,733 --> 00:00:47,893 Speaker 3: to be honest. I think that's really when it happens. 15 00:00:48,573 --> 00:00:51,853 Speaker 3: I know the other ones are okay, but what about it? 16 00:00:51,853 --> 00:00:55,053 Speaker 2: But it's not mean the Olympics to me, Yeah, I 17 00:00:55,053 --> 00:00:56,013 Speaker 2: do a lot of my athletics. 18 00:00:56,053 --> 00:00:58,573 Speaker 3: But then you see there's always something happening in the pool, 19 00:00:58,573 --> 00:01:00,773 Speaker 3: which I love. But look the reason I saw I 20 00:01:00,813 --> 00:01:02,453 Speaker 3: love it. I mean, who gets up in turns the 21 00:01:02,453 --> 00:01:05,773 Speaker 3: television on at six am me because it's the Olympics, 22 00:01:05,853 --> 00:01:07,493 Speaker 3: and this guy comes on. His name is Mark. I 23 00:01:07,533 --> 00:01:11,653 Speaker 3: think it's Marco. Marco Deplantis. He is the Swedish Olympic 24 00:01:11,973 --> 00:01:16,573 Speaker 3: champion from last Olympics. In the pole vault. Oh right, right, Mondo, 25 00:01:16,653 --> 00:01:20,693 Speaker 3: that's him, Mondo, Mondo de Plantis, Mondo Armando. I think 26 00:01:20,693 --> 00:01:23,973 Speaker 3: it's a full name anyway, So long story short, folks, 27 00:01:23,973 --> 00:01:27,013 Speaker 3: if you didn't see it, it's just such brilliant competition 28 00:01:27,253 --> 00:01:30,173 Speaker 3: and I mean it was pulsating. 29 00:01:29,733 --> 00:01:32,573 Speaker 2: And I nobody's heard of Mondo de Plantis. 30 00:01:33,533 --> 00:01:36,533 Speaker 3: So in the pole vite he wins gold and he's 31 00:01:36,573 --> 00:01:40,133 Speaker 3: clearly you know, he's clearly so superior to the to 32 00:01:40,133 --> 00:01:42,813 Speaker 3: the silver medalist and the bronze medist. But he's won gold. 33 00:01:43,133 --> 00:01:45,973 Speaker 3: But he still can compete and even goes the other 34 00:01:46,013 --> 00:01:48,013 Speaker 3: ones have failed, the other ones have failed at the height. 35 00:01:48,053 --> 00:01:52,013 Speaker 3: So he gets the Olympic record, gets the gold and 36 00:01:52,053 --> 00:01:54,773 Speaker 3: it's the final event of the calendar overnight and he goes, 37 00:01:55,013 --> 00:01:58,373 Speaker 3: stuff it. I'm going for the world record. He's only 38 00:01:58,413 --> 00:02:01,573 Speaker 3: twenty three, so the whole stadium goes good on him. 39 00:02:01,573 --> 00:02:03,493 Speaker 3: You know. It's like it's it's like if you think 40 00:02:03,493 --> 00:02:05,653 Speaker 3: of a rugby match when it's full time and you 41 00:02:05,693 --> 00:02:07,253 Speaker 3: know you've won the game, but the team with the 42 00:02:07,253 --> 00:02:11,213 Speaker 3: balls still runs it. Runs it exactly, run it, don't 43 00:02:11,253 --> 00:02:13,773 Speaker 3: kick it, run it. The Planders doesn't kick it. He 44 00:02:13,853 --> 00:02:15,813 Speaker 3: runs it. He goes, stuff it. I'm going for gold. 45 00:02:16,573 --> 00:02:19,773 Speaker 3: He's got this huge pole. It's the biggest pole that's 46 00:02:19,853 --> 00:02:23,573 Speaker 3: been used. And he runs in. His first attempt fails, 47 00:02:23,733 --> 00:02:27,333 Speaker 3: crowd goes down, buss so he goes, stuff it. 48 00:02:27,373 --> 00:02:30,253 Speaker 2: I'm going again. Runs in up, she goes to em 49 00:02:30,373 --> 00:02:32,773 Speaker 2: right over, clears the bar by one thousand. 50 00:02:32,373 --> 00:02:35,573 Speaker 3: Meters and then hits the bar on the way down 51 00:02:35,613 --> 00:02:39,173 Speaker 3: with his arm, stuffs it. Crowd goes in and he goes, 52 00:02:39,213 --> 00:02:41,453 Speaker 3: I'm going again. It's my final attempt. He's already won gold. 53 00:02:41,493 --> 00:02:44,253 Speaker 3: He's already got the Olympic red. One year's one. Yeah. 54 00:02:44,293 --> 00:02:48,773 Speaker 3: And he goes and the crowd is just polsating, yeah yeah. 55 00:02:49,773 --> 00:02:52,573 Speaker 3: And up he saws and he saws, and he soars 56 00:02:52,653 --> 00:02:56,013 Speaker 3: like an eagle. Sex point two five meters is the 57 00:02:56,053 --> 00:02:58,733 Speaker 3: world record. Clears it by a country mile. 58 00:02:58,693 --> 00:03:01,213 Speaker 2: So he's got a new world record, new world record. 59 00:03:01,373 --> 00:03:04,813 Speaker 3: He's twenty three. He's back to back Gold's Olympic record, 60 00:03:05,213 --> 00:03:08,733 Speaker 3: world record, out goes nuts. What a moment. 61 00:03:09,493 --> 00:03:13,213 Speaker 1: The Highlight Reel with Simon Barnard and James Daniels. News 62 00:03:13,293 --> 00:03:13,893 Speaker 1: Talk said the. 63 00:03:14,133 --> 00:03:17,133 Speaker 2: Prime Minister Christopher Luckxson was interviewed on Mike Hoskins Show, 64 00:03:17,293 --> 00:03:19,613 Speaker 2: and people are really concerned about the education of our 65 00:03:19,693 --> 00:03:22,693 Speaker 2: young people and some levels have slipped to middle to 66 00:03:22,813 --> 00:03:26,853 Speaker 2: low order in terms of other OECD countries. 67 00:03:27,613 --> 00:03:31,013 Speaker 3: Maths, reading, writing are the big three. Prime Minister Christopher 68 00:03:31,053 --> 00:03:33,773 Speaker 3: Luxon said they're going to introduce some of the new 69 00:03:33,813 --> 00:03:37,693 Speaker 3: mathematics curriculum a year earlier than planned. That's got the Teachers' 70 00:03:37,733 --> 00:03:40,053 Speaker 3: Union's a bit concerned and some are saying, you know 71 00:03:40,093 --> 00:03:42,773 Speaker 3: what gives that means teaching our kids to read and 72 00:03:42,773 --> 00:03:45,013 Speaker 3: teach them to do mathematics and if everything else has 73 00:03:45,053 --> 00:03:47,533 Speaker 3: to be delayed as a consequence of that, so be it. 74 00:03:47,773 --> 00:03:49,213 Speaker 3: So that was one of the things a lot of 75 00:03:49,333 --> 00:03:52,333 Speaker 3: commentators picked up on. If it means arts and culture 76 00:03:52,373 --> 00:03:55,413 Speaker 3: has to be delayed, so be it. For me, I 77 00:03:55,493 --> 00:03:57,813 Speaker 3: kind of agree with what he's saying. He went on 78 00:03:57,853 --> 00:03:59,573 Speaker 3: to say in the interview, which I think is fair too. 79 00:03:59,693 --> 00:04:01,373 Speaker 3: He says, and I quote, how on earth do you 80 00:04:01,373 --> 00:04:03,293 Speaker 3: get a four lane highway from Auckland to FuG at 81 00:04:03,293 --> 00:04:06,093 Speaker 3: a with future generations that can't do maths, How do 82 00:04:06,093 --> 00:04:08,693 Speaker 3: you be the world leaders in agri science if we 83 00:04:08,733 --> 00:04:10,773 Speaker 3: don't have our kids knowing how to do maths and 84 00:04:10,813 --> 00:04:13,893 Speaker 3: read properly. All fair? Now, you're a school principal, are 85 00:04:13,933 --> 00:04:16,813 Speaker 3: you in? I am indeed did those words of the 86 00:04:16,813 --> 00:04:18,813 Speaker 3: promise to sort of alarm you at all? If it 87 00:04:18,813 --> 00:04:21,093 Speaker 3: means we're going to defer our arts to music curriculum 88 00:04:21,213 --> 00:04:22,413 Speaker 3: for now, then so be it. 89 00:04:22,693 --> 00:04:23,453 Speaker 4: Absolutely. 90 00:04:23,573 --> 00:04:26,533 Speaker 5: I mean, I am one hundred percent supportive of we 91 00:04:26,613 --> 00:04:30,333 Speaker 5: need to do something because standards have fallen drastically over 92 00:04:30,333 --> 00:04:33,333 Speaker 5: the years. And I've been a principal for thirty three years, 93 00:04:33,373 --> 00:04:36,973 Speaker 5: I've been in teaching for thirty six and it's absolutely 94 00:04:37,013 --> 00:04:40,813 Speaker 5: true standards the lower But you cannot just have a 95 00:04:40,893 --> 00:04:45,253 Speaker 5: focus on maths, reading and writing. We'll have other issues 96 00:04:45,253 --> 00:04:47,893 Speaker 5: in with attendance all over again. Kids will be bought 97 00:04:47,893 --> 00:04:49,893 Speaker 5: out of your tree if that's all they're. 98 00:04:49,693 --> 00:04:50,413 Speaker 4: Doing at school. 99 00:04:50,973 --> 00:04:53,373 Speaker 5: It's got to be And in an end, the music 100 00:04:53,413 --> 00:04:55,653 Speaker 5: and the dance and the drama and the performing arts, 101 00:04:55,853 --> 00:04:57,973 Speaker 5: that's the stuff that turns you on right at school, 102 00:04:58,133 --> 00:05:00,293 Speaker 5: that's the stuff that helps you be a better learner. 103 00:05:00,693 --> 00:05:03,733 Speaker 5: So I'm really concerned with what's happening, and I agree 104 00:05:03,773 --> 00:05:06,173 Speaker 5: with everything National has been doing, actually, which is unusual 105 00:05:06,173 --> 00:05:09,293 Speaker 5: for for a teacher to be seeing this. But you 106 00:05:09,373 --> 00:05:12,173 Speaker 5: know what, we've got to do something, but we can't 107 00:05:12,173 --> 00:05:14,293 Speaker 5: do it at the expense of the other curriculum areas. 108 00:05:14,493 --> 00:05:16,773 Speaker 5: I think the Prime Minister was wrong in saying that. 109 00:05:17,013 --> 00:05:19,813 Speaker 3: So why, in your view have the standards dropped so much? 110 00:05:20,013 --> 00:05:22,053 Speaker 5: Teachers don't have the same passion as they did in 111 00:05:22,093 --> 00:05:25,133 Speaker 5: the past, in the sense that they really wanted to 112 00:05:25,133 --> 00:05:28,253 Speaker 5: be a teacher. I think now not everyone is that. 113 00:05:28,493 --> 00:05:31,453 Speaker 5: And when it changed to a university course for primary schools, 114 00:05:31,893 --> 00:05:34,973 Speaker 5: that also ripped the guts out of being a well 115 00:05:35,053 --> 00:05:38,013 Speaker 5: rounded person to be a primary teacher. You know, it 116 00:05:38,093 --> 00:05:41,253 Speaker 5: became way too academic. Now that sounds real bad, saying 117 00:05:41,293 --> 00:05:43,453 Speaker 5: you don't have to be to be a teacher. You've 118 00:05:43,453 --> 00:05:46,173 Speaker 5: got to be a pretty well rounded individual. I believe 119 00:05:46,573 --> 00:05:48,853 Speaker 5: to be an effective primary intermediate school teacher. 120 00:05:49,693 --> 00:05:50,453 Speaker 6: I think for. 121 00:05:50,453 --> 00:05:53,653 Speaker 4: Me, haven't we already just now adjusted to one hour 122 00:05:53,733 --> 00:05:56,173 Speaker 4: reading maths and writing a day part of the curriculum. 123 00:05:56,293 --> 00:05:58,693 Speaker 4: I'm not sure how much more time and energy my 124 00:05:58,813 --> 00:06:02,133 Speaker 4: kids could put into their math reading and writing during 125 00:06:02,173 --> 00:06:05,933 Speaker 4: a day. They need the music and the culture and 126 00:06:05,973 --> 00:06:09,653 Speaker 4: the forming arts and the sports to break up their days, 127 00:06:09,653 --> 00:06:11,893 Speaker 4: to burn the energy to stimulate the mind in a 128 00:06:11,893 --> 00:06:14,813 Speaker 4: different way. You talk to teachers, they're not sure they 129 00:06:14,813 --> 00:06:17,613 Speaker 4: could do more teaching that would be efficient and effective. 130 00:06:17,933 --> 00:06:20,573 Speaker 4: I also think that the life skills that it sets 131 00:06:20,573 --> 00:06:22,813 Speaker 4: them up. So my cold last term just did a 132 00:06:22,853 --> 00:06:25,093 Speaker 4: school production at the primary school and they spend a 133 00:06:25,093 --> 00:06:28,573 Speaker 4: lot of their time practicing and rehearsing. And the confidence 134 00:06:28,613 --> 00:06:30,533 Speaker 4: that it builds up in them, the resilience that it 135 00:06:30,573 --> 00:06:32,853 Speaker 4: builds up in them, all those life skills I think 136 00:06:32,893 --> 00:06:35,933 Speaker 4: will be long lasting and forever lasting. Jet a little bit, 137 00:06:35,973 --> 00:06:38,733 Speaker 4: but we've all got calculators in our pockets nowadays. As 138 00:06:38,773 --> 00:06:40,773 Speaker 4: maths as important as it used to be, I don't know. 139 00:06:41,013 --> 00:06:43,093 Speaker 4: So many kids these days are not even being set 140 00:06:43,173 --> 00:06:45,413 Speaker 4: up to come to primary school ready to learn from 141 00:06:45,413 --> 00:06:46,973 Speaker 4: the age of five, and I think a lot of 142 00:06:47,013 --> 00:06:48,893 Speaker 4: that is onus, is on the parents. We can't just 143 00:06:48,973 --> 00:06:50,973 Speaker 4: expect the school to teach our kids everything. 144 00:06:51,333 --> 00:06:53,053 Speaker 3: I guess one thing that I do think is valid 145 00:06:53,093 --> 00:06:54,973 Speaker 3: those Steve is what they're saying at the moment when 146 00:06:55,093 --> 00:06:58,053 Speaker 3: kids get to high school now they're so underprepared for 147 00:06:58,213 --> 00:07:01,013 Speaker 3: the likes of maths and reading. They hate school and 148 00:07:01,053 --> 00:07:03,173 Speaker 3: they want to leave, which is why record numbers are 149 00:07:03,253 --> 00:07:05,733 Speaker 3: leaving under the age of seventeen, because they're completely ill 150 00:07:05,733 --> 00:07:07,253 Speaker 3: equipped to hand handle the demands. 151 00:07:07,413 --> 00:07:09,773 Speaker 4: The balance has got to be in proportionate to what 152 00:07:09,853 --> 00:07:12,613 Speaker 4: is required for the individual student, or the class or 153 00:07:12,613 --> 00:07:14,893 Speaker 4: the school as a whole. But I still think those 154 00:07:15,133 --> 00:07:18,613 Speaker 4: non vital subjects like your music, your performance arts, your sport, 155 00:07:18,853 --> 00:07:22,933 Speaker 4: your cultural languages, is super important to developing well rounded individuals. 156 00:07:23,013 --> 00:07:25,893 Speaker 3: The highlight reel they do in Belgium, and they have 157 00:07:26,013 --> 00:07:28,533 Speaker 3: been since twenty eighteen, and they're doing it in a 158 00:07:28,613 --> 00:07:32,253 Speaker 3: number of countries across the globe, and Australia intend to 159 00:07:32,293 --> 00:07:35,893 Speaker 3: do it. Basically in two weeks time, you will soon 160 00:07:35,933 --> 00:07:40,613 Speaker 3: be able to ignore the boss out of ours because 161 00:07:40,613 --> 00:07:44,053 Speaker 3: in Australia they are passing what is called the Right 162 00:07:44,253 --> 00:07:48,773 Speaker 3: to Disconnect Bill. So in twenty days exactly, so just 163 00:07:48,853 --> 00:07:51,613 Speaker 3: less than three weeks, the Fair Work Amendment or the 164 00:07:51,693 --> 00:07:54,933 Speaker 3: Right to Disconnect Bill comes into effect in Australia and 165 00:07:54,973 --> 00:07:59,053 Speaker 3: it means that an employee can refuse to monitor, read, 166 00:07:59,413 --> 00:08:02,933 Speaker 3: or respond to contact from an employer or a third 167 00:08:02,973 --> 00:08:07,413 Speaker 3: party outside of working hours, so into effect in three weeks. 168 00:08:07,453 --> 00:08:09,373 Speaker 3: In the question is should we adot something similar in 169 00:08:09,413 --> 00:08:11,533 Speaker 3: this country. I think you think we should. 170 00:08:11,653 --> 00:08:12,213 Speaker 2: I like it. 171 00:08:12,493 --> 00:08:13,573 Speaker 3: Why don't you like it? 172 00:08:13,933 --> 00:08:16,573 Speaker 2: Because it's like a blunt instrument, and it's like the 173 00:08:16,653 --> 00:08:19,773 Speaker 2: government telling you what to do in your workplace, the 174 00:08:19,813 --> 00:08:22,533 Speaker 2: way you should work and so on. And I just 175 00:08:22,613 --> 00:08:25,573 Speaker 2: think that it should be in your employment agreement as 176 00:08:25,613 --> 00:08:28,693 Speaker 2: to what the heck you do in terms of contact, 177 00:08:29,013 --> 00:08:34,213 Speaker 2: in terms of expectations around notification, and whether it's appropriate 178 00:08:34,253 --> 00:08:37,173 Speaker 2: to communicate at any time of the day, like it's 179 00:08:37,213 --> 00:08:39,893 Speaker 2: between you and your employer. So the boss can still 180 00:08:39,933 --> 00:08:43,533 Speaker 2: make contact, absolutely, and you can still respond. Nobody's preventing 181 00:08:43,613 --> 00:08:46,613 Speaker 2: or prohibiting that. But you have the right if it's 182 00:08:46,613 --> 00:08:47,733 Speaker 2: an unreasonable boss. 183 00:08:47,493 --> 00:08:50,613 Speaker 3: With this law to say, oh man, hey, I wasn't 184 00:08:50,653 --> 00:08:53,493 Speaker 3: checking it, and there's no consequences because you're protected by 185 00:08:53,493 --> 00:08:55,413 Speaker 3: the law. Hello, they're clear. 186 00:08:55,653 --> 00:08:55,813 Speaker 2: Hi. 187 00:08:56,013 --> 00:09:00,213 Speaker 7: Yes, I agree with you, Simon, but I also agree 188 00:09:00,213 --> 00:09:01,733 Speaker 7: with James. It is a blunt instrument. 189 00:09:01,773 --> 00:09:02,733 Speaker 8: I certainly see that. 190 00:09:03,413 --> 00:09:08,373 Speaker 7: But I like it not from an employer employee relationship, 191 00:09:08,693 --> 00:09:13,413 Speaker 7: but to the wider community relationship because what it sends 192 00:09:13,453 --> 00:09:18,093 Speaker 7: to customers and to parents of students at schools and 193 00:09:18,133 --> 00:09:22,573 Speaker 7: things like that, that there can't be an expectation of instance, 194 00:09:22,653 --> 00:09:26,533 Speaker 7: communication with everybody all the time. Yeah, and I think 195 00:09:26,573 --> 00:09:29,573 Speaker 7: that that's a really positive steps for society. 196 00:09:30,013 --> 00:09:32,013 Speaker 3: I didn't actually consider that, but you're right, clear, it's 197 00:09:32,053 --> 00:09:35,013 Speaker 3: the message this legislation sends. As you say, to the 198 00:09:35,013 --> 00:09:38,053 Speaker 3: wider community, goes, okay, it's inappropriate. There are appropriate times 199 00:09:38,053 --> 00:09:40,093 Speaker 3: to email about work, and there are inappropriate times. If 200 00:09:40,133 --> 00:09:42,853 Speaker 3: it's in legislation, there's a kind of a big signal 201 00:09:42,933 --> 00:09:45,373 Speaker 3: or a smoke signal to the whole country saying hey, 202 00:09:45,413 --> 00:09:47,293 Speaker 3: we don't do this. It's a big brother signal. 203 00:09:47,693 --> 00:09:50,093 Speaker 2: It's no good on your clear. That's a good point. 204 00:09:50,093 --> 00:09:52,853 Speaker 2: I like it. It swings both ways, guys. I'm a 205 00:09:52,893 --> 00:09:56,093 Speaker 2: manager who gets texts at five am or earlier from 206 00:09:56,173 --> 00:09:59,493 Speaker 2: staff members. Employees texting me when they're not going to 207 00:09:59,493 --> 00:09:59,853 Speaker 2: come in. 208 00:10:00,453 --> 00:10:02,093 Speaker 3: That's because they're arriving home. 209 00:10:02,373 --> 00:10:05,293 Speaker 9: Did I ben Look, I don't have a problem during 210 00:10:05,293 --> 00:10:09,933 Speaker 9: the week days bosses ringing in regards to the previous 211 00:10:10,053 --> 00:10:14,333 Speaker 9: day's work late at night, if it's an emergency. If 212 00:10:14,333 --> 00:10:17,093 Speaker 9: it's not an emergency, don't contact me. And if it's 213 00:10:17,173 --> 00:10:20,013 Speaker 9: on the weekend, about next week's work. I don't want 214 00:10:20,013 --> 00:10:20,933 Speaker 9: to know until Monday. 215 00:10:21,373 --> 00:10:24,173 Speaker 3: Do you get text from your boss in the weekend. 216 00:10:24,133 --> 00:10:28,173 Speaker 9: Not regularly but now and again? Yes, but I won't 217 00:10:28,253 --> 00:10:32,853 Speaker 9: respond to those texts until Monday because that's weekends my time. 218 00:10:33,253 --> 00:10:35,373 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's fair. What do you say to 219 00:10:35,413 --> 00:10:38,373 Speaker 3: what James was suggesting, Ben that you should be able 220 00:10:38,413 --> 00:10:40,253 Speaker 3: to know and be able to discuss that with You know, 221 00:10:40,253 --> 00:10:41,613 Speaker 3: your boss should be able to say to you, and 222 00:10:41,613 --> 00:10:42,733 Speaker 3: you should be able to say to him. Look, I 223 00:10:42,733 --> 00:10:44,133 Speaker 3: don't want to get calls on the weekend. Have you 224 00:10:44,173 --> 00:10:45,853 Speaker 3: ever asked your boss about the weekend? 225 00:10:45,933 --> 00:10:49,573 Speaker 9: Course, He's only done it once or twice, and I 226 00:10:49,693 --> 00:10:53,373 Speaker 9: just don't answer them. So we've never communicated. I've just 227 00:10:53,373 --> 00:10:55,053 Speaker 9: simply said, oh, I didn't have my phone on me 228 00:10:55,693 --> 00:10:58,733 Speaker 9: when I went into work on Monday. But yeah, I 229 00:10:58,813 --> 00:11:01,613 Speaker 9: reckon that you need to maintain a good working relationship 230 00:11:01,933 --> 00:11:03,653 Speaker 9: and if you need to have a word to the 231 00:11:03,653 --> 00:11:06,373 Speaker 9: boss that hey, this is an appropriate do it because 232 00:11:06,613 --> 00:11:09,413 Speaker 9: you better off to do that. You're probably not saying anything. 233 00:11:09,813 --> 00:11:16,373 Speaker 1: The Highlight Reel with Sion James. The Highlight Reel with 234 00:11:16,653 --> 00:11:17,653 Speaker 1: Sion James. 235 00:11:17,893 --> 00:11:19,693 Speaker 3: Now I'm going to get myself off side and I 236 00:11:19,733 --> 00:11:21,893 Speaker 3: know I will, but I'm going to say it anyway. Well, 237 00:11:22,093 --> 00:11:23,373 Speaker 3: I'm with you on this, are you? 238 00:11:23,493 --> 00:11:23,693 Speaker 7: Yeah? 239 00:11:23,733 --> 00:11:24,653 Speaker 3: I am with you on this? 240 00:11:24,813 --> 00:11:25,053 Speaker 2: Wow? 241 00:11:25,213 --> 00:11:27,133 Speaker 3: Okay, great, right, put it there. 242 00:11:27,333 --> 00:11:29,173 Speaker 2: Yeah, give me five. 243 00:11:29,493 --> 00:11:33,493 Speaker 3: I've always loved and admired and respected humility. And you 244 00:11:33,573 --> 00:11:35,853 Speaker 3: know the likes of Nelson Mandela, all those years in 245 00:11:35,853 --> 00:11:37,413 Speaker 3: prison and he came out and he didn't seem to 246 00:11:37,413 --> 00:11:40,253 Speaker 3: have a venomous bone in his body or any desire 247 00:11:40,293 --> 00:11:44,053 Speaker 3: for retribution. That's one act of humility. You love seeing 248 00:11:44,093 --> 00:11:47,653 Speaker 3: it with sports people. The greatest of the greats, Rafael Nadal, 249 00:11:47,773 --> 00:11:50,853 Speaker 3: Roger Federick in the tennis community, humble to a fault, 250 00:11:51,333 --> 00:11:54,853 Speaker 3: Peter Snell, Peter Snell, another one, Murray Hellberg. In the 251 00:11:54,893 --> 00:11:57,653 Speaker 3: current day, Sir Michael Jones. Could you get a more 252 00:11:57,813 --> 00:12:01,253 Speaker 3: good humble athlete than Sir Michael Jones? Right, So it 253 00:12:01,413 --> 00:12:05,293 Speaker 3: really jars with me when I see like Noah Lyles, 254 00:12:05,333 --> 00:12:07,373 Speaker 3: the American sprinter. It's just won one hundred and a 255 00:12:07,413 --> 00:12:10,293 Speaker 3: fascinating race and it was gripping, no question, was wonderful. 256 00:12:10,373 --> 00:12:12,733 Speaker 3: But when they introduced him, all the athletes are on 257 00:12:12,733 --> 00:12:14,813 Speaker 3: the start line, they introduced him, and he carries on 258 00:12:14,893 --> 00:12:18,173 Speaker 3: like a pork chop runs halfway up the track, dancing 259 00:12:18,213 --> 00:12:20,813 Speaker 3: and calling to the crowd. And then when he wins, 260 00:12:21,493 --> 00:12:24,813 Speaker 3: not particularly gracious in victory. And when he's asked, you 261 00:12:24,853 --> 00:12:27,693 Speaker 3: know what he wants to do now, you say, I 262 00:12:27,733 --> 00:12:30,493 Speaker 3: want to grow the sport, but instead of that, he goes, 263 00:12:30,573 --> 00:12:32,613 Speaker 3: I want a sneaker line in my name. 264 00:12:32,853 --> 00:12:33,053 Speaker 7: Yeah. 265 00:12:33,973 --> 00:12:37,093 Speaker 3: And then this offsider says, so you want some sprig shoes, 266 00:12:37,093 --> 00:12:39,413 Speaker 3: you know, because athletes running, and he goes, no, no, 267 00:12:39,453 --> 00:12:41,573 Speaker 3: there's no money in those. I want sneakers like Jordan. 268 00:12:44,373 --> 00:12:47,693 Speaker 3: That's too showy for me, even for me. Simone Biles, 269 00:12:47,893 --> 00:12:50,413 Speaker 3: you know, I know she's great and all that, but 270 00:12:50,573 --> 00:12:55,173 Speaker 3: she's got on her leotard greatest of all time goat. 271 00:12:55,693 --> 00:12:57,453 Speaker 2: That's for other people to see. You don't put that 272 00:12:57,493 --> 00:13:00,013 Speaker 2: on your own leotat. And I just asked the question. Yes, 273 00:13:00,053 --> 00:13:02,813 Speaker 2: they are gifted athletes, but they have been given that gift. 274 00:13:03,253 --> 00:13:05,093 Speaker 2: I could train as hard as Simone bars and I'll 275 00:13:05,093 --> 00:13:06,773 Speaker 2: never be able to do that on the beam floor. 276 00:13:07,493 --> 00:13:09,733 Speaker 2: I find her very very annoying with the way she 277 00:13:09,813 --> 00:13:10,773 Speaker 2: wins to Yeah. 278 00:13:11,253 --> 00:13:14,093 Speaker 3: Anyway, what do you think for every humble sportsman, you 279 00:13:14,173 --> 00:13:18,053 Speaker 3: need the great showman? I E. Muhammad Ali, Michael Jordan, 280 00:13:18,173 --> 00:13:20,973 Speaker 3: Floyd Mayweather, Ronaldo. The reason people love them is because 281 00:13:21,053 --> 00:13:22,933 Speaker 3: they put so much on the line with their arrogance. 282 00:13:22,973 --> 00:13:24,333 Speaker 3: There's probably some truth in there. 283 00:13:25,133 --> 00:13:27,773 Speaker 2: You watch them because you want to see them get 284 00:13:27,813 --> 00:13:28,373 Speaker 2: taken down. 285 00:13:28,813 --> 00:13:30,453 Speaker 3: The text goes on to say if they lose the 286 00:13:30,493 --> 00:13:33,413 Speaker 3: amount of hate they get, they just get ramped up 287 00:13:33,613 --> 00:13:36,053 Speaker 3: all the more. Your hello rideka Hi. 288 00:13:36,813 --> 00:13:39,893 Speaker 10: The other side is manifestation. Some of them do it 289 00:13:39,933 --> 00:13:43,813 Speaker 10: because it just lifts up their mindset. And I know 290 00:13:43,893 --> 00:13:47,533 Speaker 10: a few fingers in like I come from India that 291 00:13:47,613 --> 00:13:50,973 Speaker 10: their use of good goat and they're amazing fingers. So 292 00:13:51,053 --> 00:13:53,613 Speaker 10: it's basically manifesting as well that you're going to win. 293 00:13:54,013 --> 00:13:57,013 Speaker 10: And I think kidis are too humble. It's about time 294 00:13:57,093 --> 00:14:00,893 Speaker 10: you showed a bit of competitive side as well. I 295 00:14:00,933 --> 00:14:03,493 Speaker 10: know it's I mean, I believe in humility, but in 296 00:14:03,533 --> 00:14:05,933 Speaker 10: sports you put you know, you put so many hours 297 00:14:05,933 --> 00:14:08,573 Speaker 10: of even saying and if you are you know, your 298 00:14:08,573 --> 00:14:11,573 Speaker 10: mindset is you win and you do win. I feel 299 00:14:11,613 --> 00:14:17,253 Speaker 10: it it's fair if you say you are good. 300 00:14:15,733 --> 00:14:15,933 Speaker 3: Yeah. 301 00:14:17,373 --> 00:14:20,413 Speaker 8: I just wanted to chime in briefly about Noah lah 302 00:14:20,773 --> 00:14:24,813 Speaker 8: So I know it's that and I used to be 303 00:14:25,573 --> 00:14:29,133 Speaker 8: a professional athlete, so I've been in the game. It 304 00:14:29,293 --> 00:14:34,013 Speaker 8: actually has nothing to do with the other athletes that 305 00:14:34,213 --> 00:14:38,293 Speaker 8: standing next to him, as if they're not counted. It's 306 00:14:38,333 --> 00:14:43,373 Speaker 8: an individual thing. One a personality, two a marketing, and 307 00:14:43,493 --> 00:14:49,493 Speaker 8: three what gets him going for him to deliver the goods. Now, 308 00:14:49,733 --> 00:14:53,253 Speaker 8: if someone asks me, as a former athlete, how I 309 00:14:53,373 --> 00:14:57,093 Speaker 8: would react when someone behaves like that next to me, 310 00:14:57,773 --> 00:15:01,133 Speaker 8: I'm telling you right now it would rile me up 311 00:15:02,293 --> 00:15:05,693 Speaker 8: in terms of getting my game on, because I'm not 312 00:15:05,733 --> 00:15:10,973 Speaker 8: gonna let that type of show get into my focusedness. 313 00:15:11,173 --> 00:15:14,853 Speaker 8: The moment you get into that, you're done. You have 314 00:15:15,053 --> 00:15:19,053 Speaker 8: to be absolutely locked in. You've got to be focused 315 00:15:19,493 --> 00:15:21,893 Speaker 8: because at the end of the day you go back 316 00:15:21,893 --> 00:15:24,573 Speaker 8: in the warm of era and everybody is laughing and 317 00:15:24,653 --> 00:15:28,253 Speaker 8: get it along together. You got introverts and extroverts, and 318 00:15:28,293 --> 00:15:32,813 Speaker 8: sometimes extroverts can come off as being bullish, and sometimes 319 00:15:32,813 --> 00:15:35,253 Speaker 8: the introverts are the one who actually delivered the good 320 00:15:35,293 --> 00:15:39,693 Speaker 8: So it's kind of a personal choice, but in sports, 321 00:15:40,053 --> 00:15:44,493 Speaker 8: you got to be extremely careful not to let each 322 00:15:44,613 --> 00:15:49,453 Speaker 8: person's personality get into your way, and you're just not 323 00:15:49,533 --> 00:15:51,373 Speaker 8: going to survive. 324 00:15:51,133 --> 00:15:54,173 Speaker 2: You've said that very well, Dove, did you carry on 325 00:15:54,253 --> 00:15:56,693 Speaker 2: before you. You said you're a professional athlete, so obviously 326 00:15:56,853 --> 00:16:00,613 Speaker 2: very accomplished. Yes, was that you did you jump up 327 00:16:00,613 --> 00:16:03,893 Speaker 2: and down and get into people's faces? 328 00:16:05,213 --> 00:16:09,573 Speaker 8: No, no, no, I'll be honest with you. So I 329 00:16:09,653 --> 00:16:15,253 Speaker 8: internalized the all process, right, I get very competitive and 330 00:16:15,373 --> 00:16:20,413 Speaker 8: aggressive to fit the situation that's that's in front of me. 331 00:16:21,293 --> 00:16:22,973 Speaker 8: It's just the nature of the beasts. 332 00:16:23,333 --> 00:16:26,773 Speaker 2: Fair enough, we get that, Hey, Dave, to what level 333 00:16:26,813 --> 00:16:29,213 Speaker 2: did you compete? What was the highest level of level 334 00:16:29,253 --> 00:16:32,013 Speaker 2: of competition for you as an eight hundred meter runner. 335 00:16:32,013 --> 00:16:35,733 Speaker 8: World Championships and the Olympics. Wow, I ran for Jamaica. 336 00:16:35,853 --> 00:16:38,653 Speaker 3: What a machine. Thank you for calling well, you would 337 00:16:38,693 --> 00:16:40,813 Speaker 3: have been gathered that. Who was the sprinter that lost 338 00:16:40,813 --> 00:16:45,373 Speaker 3: in Noah Laws and the one hundred hoping right, you're right? 339 00:16:45,973 --> 00:16:52,093 Speaker 8: That is that is just taken off in Jamaica. Massive discussion. 340 00:16:53,573 --> 00:16:58,373 Speaker 8: But you have to understand Shane Thompson last. Shane Thompson 341 00:16:58,693 --> 00:17:01,893 Speaker 8: him by a whisker torso. 342 00:17:02,013 --> 00:17:04,133 Speaker 3: Five thousandths of a second. 343 00:17:04,853 --> 00:17:08,333 Speaker 8: Right, if he had dipped the right shoulder, Kishane would 344 00:17:08,333 --> 00:17:08,733 Speaker 8: have won. 345 00:17:09,213 --> 00:17:14,493 Speaker 3: I was hoping you're lovely, Dave. Thank you for calling mate. 346 00:17:14,773 --> 00:17:15,133 Speaker 10: All right? 347 00:17:17,493 --> 00:17:22,613 Speaker 3: The first Retail Union Howlong with MTA basically calling for 348 00:17:22,653 --> 00:17:27,133 Speaker 3: the right to publish video and photograph of what they 349 00:17:27,133 --> 00:17:29,293 Speaker 3: say as offenders of crime. You know, it could be 350 00:17:29,333 --> 00:17:31,333 Speaker 3: the service station or a dairy. At the moment, it's 351 00:17:31,333 --> 00:17:33,813 Speaker 3: illegal to publish some of those pictures, although daries do it. 352 00:17:33,733 --> 00:17:34,093 Speaker 2: Don't they. 353 00:17:34,413 --> 00:17:36,013 Speaker 3: I think they do it. Yeah, we see it on 354 00:17:36,053 --> 00:17:37,813 Speaker 3: TV a lot. And they're saying they want the right 355 00:17:37,853 --> 00:17:42,253 Speaker 3: to publish this CCTV footage to deter crime, and a 356 00:17:42,253 --> 00:17:44,293 Speaker 3: lot of people agree with them. I go, well, I 357 00:17:44,373 --> 00:17:46,253 Speaker 3: get that, but what if you get it wrong? 358 00:17:46,853 --> 00:17:48,133 Speaker 2: But how can you get it wrong If it's the 359 00:17:48,133 --> 00:17:49,853 Speaker 2: footage of someone doing something. 360 00:17:49,573 --> 00:17:51,573 Speaker 3: Well, it may not be actual footage of them in 361 00:17:51,613 --> 00:17:53,733 Speaker 3: the act. It may be just somebody they suspect and 362 00:17:53,733 --> 00:17:56,933 Speaker 3: they go, this person, we've lost X petrol or this 363 00:17:57,053 --> 00:17:58,733 Speaker 3: was stolen when this person happened to be the only 364 00:17:58,733 --> 00:17:59,853 Speaker 3: one in the shop. So we're going to put the 365 00:17:59,853 --> 00:18:02,013 Speaker 3: picture up. If they get it wrong, there could be 366 00:18:02,013 --> 00:18:04,373 Speaker 3: a lot of consequences. They already do that, though those 367 00:18:04,413 --> 00:18:07,373 Speaker 3: still pictures of people who have done stuff they're not 368 00:18:07,373 --> 00:18:11,053 Speaker 3: supposed to though, oh right, okay, so First Retail union't 369 00:18:11,053 --> 00:18:14,813 Speaker 3: want the right to publish those and basically no consequences 370 00:18:14,853 --> 00:18:17,253 Speaker 3: if they get it wrong. I suppose they say sorry, impunity. 371 00:18:17,293 --> 00:18:20,293 Speaker 3: That's what they wanted pretty much, Miriam, Hello there, how 372 00:18:20,333 --> 00:18:21,013 Speaker 3: are you welcome? 373 00:18:21,253 --> 00:18:21,413 Speaker 7: Hi? 374 00:18:21,613 --> 00:18:23,093 Speaker 4: Good, thank you, good, thank you. 375 00:18:23,173 --> 00:18:25,613 Speaker 11: Preschool is in the back, so if you hear weird noises, 376 00:18:25,653 --> 00:18:26,693 Speaker 11: that's what's going. 377 00:18:26,493 --> 00:18:27,933 Speaker 3: On, no problem. Good on you. 378 00:18:28,093 --> 00:18:32,693 Speaker 7: I think they probably should publish the photos, but I 379 00:18:32,693 --> 00:18:34,253 Speaker 7: think they're actually careful. 380 00:18:34,293 --> 00:18:37,093 Speaker 10: Sorry, no, it's great. 381 00:18:41,733 --> 00:18:48,453 Speaker 6: Doing it on purpose, Now I've stop it. My sister 382 00:18:48,493 --> 00:18:51,773 Speaker 6: looking to a supermarket and she did the payWave on 383 00:18:51,813 --> 00:18:55,573 Speaker 6: the self service check out and wasn't thinking, walked out 384 00:18:55,733 --> 00:18:58,133 Speaker 6: and realized she didn't realize it hadn't actually. 385 00:18:57,893 --> 00:19:01,173 Speaker 11: Gone through it, and so you know, tick the place. 386 00:19:01,213 --> 00:19:05,093 Speaker 10: She stole the groceries, but you know, not on purpose. 387 00:19:05,293 --> 00:19:08,733 Speaker 3: So she was completely away, unawares that her payWave hadn't 388 00:19:08,773 --> 00:19:09,333 Speaker 3: gone through. 389 00:19:11,213 --> 00:19:12,413 Speaker 8: Yes, right, And. 390 00:19:12,333 --> 00:19:15,013 Speaker 10: The next time she went to the supermarket, her photo 391 00:19:15,013 --> 00:19:18,173 Speaker 10: was displayed for the world to see. 392 00:19:18,493 --> 00:19:21,853 Speaker 8: Ah, you see that's played for the grocery. 393 00:19:22,933 --> 00:19:23,133 Speaker 2: Right. 394 00:19:23,253 --> 00:19:25,653 Speaker 3: She must have been so embarrassed, was she Did she 395 00:19:25,653 --> 00:19:26,813 Speaker 3: see her photograph up? 396 00:19:27,013 --> 00:19:27,213 Speaker 7: Yes? 397 00:19:27,253 --> 00:19:28,373 Speaker 4: She was super embarrassed. 398 00:19:28,493 --> 00:19:29,893 Speaker 11: Yes, and her photograph was up. 399 00:19:30,133 --> 00:19:31,293 Speaker 9: But what was more embarrassing. 400 00:19:31,453 --> 00:19:32,573 Speaker 11: She's a high school teacher and. 401 00:19:36,413 --> 00:19:39,333 Speaker 10: Family and my PIDs that I've seen that I teach have. 402 00:19:40,893 --> 00:19:42,493 Speaker 9: Seen that photograph us as well. 403 00:19:42,693 --> 00:19:44,173 Speaker 3: I've kind of rest my case with that. 404 00:19:44,293 --> 00:19:44,653 Speaker 2: Miriam. 405 00:19:44,693 --> 00:19:47,773 Speaker 3: Thank you, because that's what my biggest concerns, and I 406 00:19:47,813 --> 00:19:50,253 Speaker 3: think James as well. The people that have done nothing 407 00:19:50,293 --> 00:19:59,053 Speaker 3: wrong get their mag shot. Yeah, you're right, Yeah, that's right, excellent, Miriam. 408 00:19:59,133 --> 00:20:02,493 Speaker 3: Thank you for persisting. And I'm glad your son seems 409 00:20:02,493 --> 00:20:05,293 Speaker 3: to have put the fire out, so good news all round. 410 00:20:06,373 --> 00:20:08,413 Speaker 3: The little kid's name was Flick good Anthony. 411 00:20:08,653 --> 00:20:10,933 Speaker 12: Yeah, so I just want to share. I've been working 412 00:20:10,933 --> 00:20:13,933 Speaker 12: at a service station since I was a teenager. So yeah, 413 00:20:14,133 --> 00:20:16,453 Speaker 12: at the start, when I started working, when people would 414 00:20:16,853 --> 00:20:19,773 Speaker 12: drive off of their petrol, we used to give a 415 00:20:19,773 --> 00:20:21,893 Speaker 12: phone call to the police, but most of the time 416 00:20:21,933 --> 00:20:24,373 Speaker 12: you realize that nothing really gets done. The money doesn't 417 00:20:24,373 --> 00:20:24,933 Speaker 12: come back, you know. 418 00:20:25,253 --> 00:20:25,453 Speaker 7: Yeah. 419 00:20:25,573 --> 00:20:30,173 Speaker 12: Yeah, we started posting security footage of them on community 420 00:20:30,213 --> 00:20:31,373 Speaker 12: pages on Facebook. 421 00:20:31,653 --> 00:20:31,933 Speaker 3: Right. 422 00:20:32,453 --> 00:20:34,413 Speaker 12: I don't think we've ever had a case where someone's 423 00:20:34,453 --> 00:20:36,053 Speaker 12: been like, oh, here's your money, but like police eve 424 00:20:36,053 --> 00:20:37,613 Speaker 12: a caught back and be like, oh, here's your money back, 425 00:20:37,653 --> 00:20:40,773 Speaker 12: you know. But then, yeah, when we started posting community pages, 426 00:20:40,973 --> 00:20:43,573 Speaker 12: we've actually had a few situations where people would actually 427 00:20:43,653 --> 00:20:46,813 Speaker 12: know those people and then they're contacting themselves or something, 428 00:20:46,813 --> 00:20:49,653 Speaker 12: and we had like someone like their parents come back 429 00:20:49,693 --> 00:20:52,813 Speaker 12: and be like, oh, sorry for what happened. Here's here's 430 00:20:52,853 --> 00:20:55,293 Speaker 12: the money for the petrol or whatever they shoplifted and stall. 431 00:20:55,653 --> 00:20:57,533 Speaker 3: That is a great result. But I guess this is 432 00:20:57,573 --> 00:20:59,253 Speaker 3: where I'm torn because I know people will hate me 433 00:20:59,293 --> 00:21:02,093 Speaker 3: saying this, But do you have to still think about 434 00:21:02,133 --> 00:21:04,853 Speaker 3: those that might get you know, get their photo or 435 00:21:04,893 --> 00:21:07,893 Speaker 3: their image placed up there, might get maligned on social 436 00:21:07,893 --> 00:21:09,813 Speaker 3: media and if it's on Facebook or Instagram, it might 437 00:21:09,853 --> 00:21:12,213 Speaker 3: be seen by thousands of people and it could be wrong. 438 00:21:12,293 --> 00:21:15,853 Speaker 3: You could have got it wrong. Highlight real good discussion, 439 00:21:15,973 --> 00:21:19,973 Speaker 3: robust discussion. This about the retirement Village's Residence Association. They're 440 00:21:19,973 --> 00:21:22,333 Speaker 3: calling for a review into the sector. They wanted to 441 00:21:22,333 --> 00:21:24,573 Speaker 3: go before Parliament because they say there's a real need 442 00:21:25,133 --> 00:21:28,133 Speaker 3: and that the elderly and those that require the services 443 00:21:28,413 --> 00:21:30,773 Speaker 3: are actually being fleeced, and the legislation is twenty years 444 00:21:30,773 --> 00:21:32,493 Speaker 3: old and needs to be looked at. I say amen 445 00:21:32,613 --> 00:21:35,653 Speaker 3: to all of that. If nothing happens, that's fine. If 446 00:21:35,653 --> 00:21:38,653 Speaker 3: they say and determine that it's fair and just, then fine, 447 00:21:38,733 --> 00:21:40,973 Speaker 3: but do a review for sure. Here's where I have 448 00:21:40,973 --> 00:21:43,973 Speaker 3: a problem, James. I don't see how you can defend this, guys, 449 00:21:44,053 --> 00:21:47,493 Speaker 3: great chat. My parents paid three hundred and twenty thousand 450 00:21:47,493 --> 00:21:50,413 Speaker 3: dollars for a two bedroom unit thirteen years ago. One 451 00:21:50,453 --> 00:21:53,293 Speaker 3: parent was put into hospital care five years ago, which 452 00:21:53,333 --> 00:21:56,173 Speaker 3: meant they lost the right to occupy because they now 453 00:21:56,253 --> 00:22:00,693 Speaker 3: require care right right. Then the second parent passed three 454 00:22:00,773 --> 00:22:04,133 Speaker 3: years ago. We were paid back two hundred and eighty 455 00:22:04,133 --> 00:22:09,453 Speaker 3: six thousand following refurbishment. The retirement village then on sold 456 00:22:09,453 --> 00:22:12,053 Speaker 3: the unit the Ora for six hundred and sixty eight 457 00:22:12,093 --> 00:22:16,533 Speaker 3: thousand dollars. The lawyer described the agreement as a legal scam. 458 00:22:16,973 --> 00:22:19,173 Speaker 3: But I do agree with you, James on discount says 459 00:22:19,173 --> 00:22:21,653 Speaker 3: the text you need to read the contract and get 460 00:22:21,653 --> 00:22:24,493 Speaker 3: good advice. Thank you for that. I appreciate that last bit. 461 00:22:25,013 --> 00:22:28,853 Speaker 2: Yep. It looks unfair and it doesn't look right. It 462 00:22:28,933 --> 00:22:31,693 Speaker 2: smells a wee bit, but that's what it said and 463 00:22:31,733 --> 00:22:32,373 Speaker 2: that's what they did. 464 00:22:32,933 --> 00:22:34,853 Speaker 3: But this is a bit that I don't understand, James. 465 00:22:35,293 --> 00:22:38,773 Speaker 3: I'm genuinely not trying to be intransigent here. If it's 466 00:22:38,933 --> 00:22:42,853 Speaker 3: changed and every single retirement village gets the new legislation. 467 00:22:42,973 --> 00:22:45,293 Speaker 3: They say, you can't do that. Just when you on 468 00:22:45,453 --> 00:22:47,613 Speaker 3: sell the ora or pay back the people that have 469 00:22:47,613 --> 00:22:48,573 Speaker 3: had it for thirteen years. 470 00:22:48,693 --> 00:22:51,293 Speaker 2: You've got to pay the market price, not the price 471 00:22:51,333 --> 00:22:55,333 Speaker 2: they purchased at. That alone would make a substantial difference 472 00:22:55,373 --> 00:22:57,213 Speaker 2: to all the elderly and their families. 473 00:22:57,493 --> 00:22:58,613 Speaker 3: Well, that's what it's really about. 474 00:22:58,693 --> 00:23:01,093 Speaker 2: It's about the people who are worried about their inheritance 475 00:23:01,173 --> 00:23:03,733 Speaker 2: being eaten away. That's a lot of what it's about, 476 00:23:03,773 --> 00:23:05,893 Speaker 2: because often you're dealing with the states. 477 00:23:05,893 --> 00:23:08,053 Speaker 3: But I just can I just say to that though 478 00:23:08,093 --> 00:23:11,293 Speaker 3: one thing personal story my father in law. So you're 479 00:23:11,293 --> 00:23:13,693 Speaker 3: saying it's about the beneficiaries of the in a lot 480 00:23:13,693 --> 00:23:15,933 Speaker 3: of cases, they're the ones that are worried about it, 481 00:23:15,973 --> 00:23:17,653 Speaker 3: and that could well be true. But I know my 482 00:23:17,773 --> 00:23:21,453 Speaker 3: beautiful father in law, Fred, he was so anxious as 483 00:23:21,493 --> 00:23:25,133 Speaker 3: he watched his life savings just go down down down town. 484 00:23:25,133 --> 00:23:27,893 Speaker 3: He was absolutely anxious to the point of not being 485 00:23:27,933 --> 00:23:29,533 Speaker 3: able to see because he was worried that some of 486 00:23:29,573 --> 00:23:31,733 Speaker 3: his kids weren't doing that well and he wanted to 487 00:23:31,773 --> 00:23:33,853 Speaker 3: provide for them. So it's not just the beneficiaries, the 488 00:23:33,893 --> 00:23:36,533 Speaker 3: actual parents to go, oh my gosh, they'll be aware 489 00:23:36,573 --> 00:23:38,733 Speaker 3: of it. They want to help, but that's what they 490 00:23:38,773 --> 00:23:41,053 Speaker 3: signed up to when they went in. And I'm not 491 00:23:41,133 --> 00:23:41,813 Speaker 3: being rude. 492 00:23:42,093 --> 00:23:44,133 Speaker 2: I don't mean to be rude to anyone about this, 493 00:23:44,213 --> 00:23:47,293 Speaker 2: but you know, read what you're signing and. 494 00:23:47,613 --> 00:23:48,093 Speaker 3: Live with it. 495 00:23:48,213 --> 00:23:52,573 Speaker 2: These are businesses, That's what these things are. They're not charities. 496 00:23:53,213 --> 00:23:53,693 Speaker 3: Businesses. 497 00:23:53,973 --> 00:23:55,973 Speaker 2: Get that. If you don't want it, if you can't, 498 00:23:56,093 --> 00:23:58,653 Speaker 2: if you don't like the terms of the agreement, don't 499 00:23:58,693 --> 00:23:59,213 Speaker 2: sign them. 500 00:23:59,253 --> 00:24:01,293 Speaker 3: Well, as they went somewhere else to live, and they're 501 00:24:01,333 --> 00:24:03,893 Speaker 3: often isn't. And so my point is, do you not 502 00:24:04,053 --> 00:24:06,773 Speaker 3: think that, even though they're businesses and I get that, 503 00:24:06,773 --> 00:24:09,813 Speaker 3: that they have a duty to actually look after the 504 00:24:09,853 --> 00:24:11,853 Speaker 3: elderly and kiff and they can still make their profits, 505 00:24:11,933 --> 00:24:15,453 Speaker 3: just not exorbitant profits, just not obscene profits. 506 00:24:16,173 --> 00:24:18,333 Speaker 2: They have to act on the best interests of the companies, 507 00:24:18,613 --> 00:24:21,533 Speaker 2: that's the first thing, and therefore the shareholders. 508 00:24:21,573 --> 00:24:24,533 Speaker 1: The best moment from the week. This is the highlight 509 00:24:24,573 --> 00:24:28,093 Speaker 1: reel with Simon Barnett and James Daniels, powered by News 510 00:24:28,133 --> 00:24:29,013 Speaker 1: talks Et. 511 00:24:29,213 --> 00:24:30,853 Speaker 3: I'm sort of loath to mention this, but I think 512 00:24:30,933 --> 00:24:34,013 Speaker 3: I might. My wee beautiful week, grandson Monty came and 513 00:24:34,253 --> 00:24:35,493 Speaker 3: had a sleepover with chief. 514 00:24:35,493 --> 00:24:35,773 Speaker 2: That's me. 515 00:24:35,933 --> 00:24:40,493 Speaker 3: I'm the chief last weekend. Yeah, and I hope, my gosh, 516 00:24:40,493 --> 00:24:42,813 Speaker 3: I hope my daughter's not listening to this. And the 517 00:24:42,893 --> 00:24:44,533 Speaker 3: mother my daughter. 518 00:24:44,653 --> 00:24:44,853 Speaker 7: Yeah. 519 00:24:44,973 --> 00:24:46,853 Speaker 3: And Mons gets his wee bag out and he gets 520 00:24:46,893 --> 00:24:49,733 Speaker 3: his Jarmi's on, and then he grab your toothbrush, mate, 521 00:24:49,773 --> 00:24:52,253 Speaker 3: we'll go and clean our teeth. He gets his toothbrush. 522 00:24:52,293 --> 00:24:53,253 Speaker 3: All right, he did have it. 523 00:24:53,333 --> 00:24:57,773 Speaker 2: The head on the toothbrush, oh, was all scungy, looked 524 00:24:57,773 --> 00:25:00,293 Speaker 2: like a twenty year old dunny brush. The bristols were 525 00:25:00,333 --> 00:25:01,293 Speaker 2: all right angles. 526 00:25:02,493 --> 00:25:04,333 Speaker 3: And then when he put then he cleaned his teeth, 527 00:25:04,453 --> 00:25:07,493 Speaker 3: he would have given them eight seconds. And then he 528 00:25:07,573 --> 00:25:09,253 Speaker 3: speeds toothpaste all over the bench. 529 00:25:09,653 --> 00:25:11,573 Speaker 2: I'm like, what the hell's going on there? 530 00:25:15,453 --> 00:25:17,413 Speaker 3: Especially with your O C D. That would have been 531 00:25:17,453 --> 00:25:18,053 Speaker 3: really difficult. 532 00:25:18,173 --> 00:25:19,093 Speaker 2: I couldn't handle it. 533 00:25:19,493 --> 00:25:22,773 Speaker 3: So I'm like, uh So, when I dropped my phone 534 00:25:23,573 --> 00:25:28,093 Speaker 3: with his mom, I said, hey, Sam, or you mentioned her? 535 00:25:28,253 --> 00:25:31,973 Speaker 3: I shouldn't your name? Sorry not Sam daughter? I said, Love, 536 00:25:33,493 --> 00:25:39,253 Speaker 3: would you like me to buy Why didn't you just 537 00:25:39,413 --> 00:25:41,933 Speaker 3: do it and just drop it and leave it in 538 00:25:41,933 --> 00:25:45,093 Speaker 3: his toilet bag? Much better idea, you're a hopeless grandparent. 539 00:25:45,213 --> 00:25:46,973 Speaker 3: Much better idea. I should have done that, But I said, 540 00:25:46,973 --> 00:25:49,133 Speaker 3: would you like me to buy months a new toothbrush head? 541 00:25:49,133 --> 00:25:51,373 Speaker 3: Because that thinks terrible? She goes, what's wrong with it? 542 00:25:51,453 --> 00:25:54,213 Speaker 3: I go, have you seen it? She goes, yeah, okay, 543 00:25:54,253 --> 00:25:56,373 Speaker 3: well the bristles are all stuffed. It's like, how old 544 00:25:56,453 --> 00:25:59,453 Speaker 3: is it? So we had a bit of a chance. 545 00:25:59,493 --> 00:26:04,453 Speaker 13: A dead always a dead your poor daughters. We had 546 00:26:04,453 --> 00:26:08,373 Speaker 13: a bit of a chet. He stayed last weekend. Get 547 00:26:08,413 --> 00:26:12,173 Speaker 13: your toothbrush ons all right? Jeeves comes in same toothbrush head. 548 00:26:12,213 --> 00:26:13,173 Speaker 13: Brussels everywhere. 549 00:26:14,613 --> 00:26:18,653 Speaker 3: So I don't know. Parents are useless. There's a long 550 00:26:18,693 --> 00:26:23,413 Speaker 3: way of getting to that statement. That's my assessment. Parents 551 00:26:23,453 --> 00:26:27,573 Speaker 3: need to take greater control and responsibility for their kid's teeth, 552 00:26:28,213 --> 00:26:31,213 Speaker 3: or bring back the dental nurse chats. 553 00:26:31,013 --> 00:26:34,533 Speaker 1: Laughs and the best cause this is the highlight reel 554 00:26:34,613 --> 00:26:38,253 Speaker 1: with Simon Barnett and James Daniels powered Bundy's talk sa'd be. 555 00:26:38,453 --> 00:26:41,053 Speaker 2: The different scenarios as to why adults break up with 556 00:26:41,093 --> 00:26:42,853 Speaker 2: other adults is fascinating to me. 557 00:26:43,453 --> 00:26:45,773 Speaker 3: Hello, Marie, how are you Hello? 558 00:26:45,973 --> 00:26:46,333 Speaker 8: I'm good? 559 00:26:46,373 --> 00:26:47,053 Speaker 2: Thank good? 560 00:26:47,253 --> 00:26:49,213 Speaker 3: So now have you unfriended someone? 561 00:26:49,373 --> 00:26:49,733 Speaker 7: Yeah? 562 00:26:49,973 --> 00:26:52,493 Speaker 11: I have as an adults. I'm fifty six now, so 563 00:26:53,093 --> 00:26:55,493 Speaker 11: you know yeah, I have. I haven't done it at 564 00:26:55,533 --> 00:26:58,653 Speaker 11: a whim, you know, It's been a considered decision and 565 00:26:58,773 --> 00:27:03,013 Speaker 11: not before trying to sort things out for them. But 566 00:27:03,173 --> 00:27:06,613 Speaker 11: I strongly believe some people are your friends for a 567 00:27:06,653 --> 00:27:10,693 Speaker 11: buffer season and for butter reasons, and then others are forever. 568 00:27:11,053 --> 00:27:14,413 Speaker 11: And yeah, I'm okay with that. But if I do, 569 00:27:14,453 --> 00:27:17,053 Speaker 11: you come across them, jump into them with social you know, 570 00:27:17,613 --> 00:27:21,093 Speaker 11: you know, social networking and stuff. I will never ignore somebody, 571 00:27:21,253 --> 00:27:24,693 Speaker 11: but I but I definitely feel like, okay, I feel 572 00:27:24,733 --> 00:27:27,253 Speaker 11: glad that I actually ended that relationship because it was 573 00:27:27,333 --> 00:27:28,813 Speaker 11: toxic or you know. 574 00:27:29,413 --> 00:27:31,653 Speaker 3: But why do you ghost them? Why don't you just 575 00:27:31,773 --> 00:27:32,293 Speaker 3: front up? 576 00:27:33,413 --> 00:27:37,533 Speaker 11: Because some people are incapable of having a conversation about 577 00:27:37,573 --> 00:27:41,333 Speaker 11: something as touchy as whatever went on in your friendship. 578 00:27:41,653 --> 00:27:45,213 Speaker 11: Some people just can't do it. And I tried with 579 00:27:45,333 --> 00:27:47,293 Speaker 11: people like that and I end up being the one 580 00:27:47,333 --> 00:27:51,613 Speaker 11: that gets really hurt. So for me, I for self preservation, 581 00:27:52,253 --> 00:27:56,293 Speaker 11: I sometimes do ghosts. It's not worth my stress levels 582 00:27:56,293 --> 00:28:00,173 Speaker 11: going up or me being hurt by by horrible words 583 00:28:00,493 --> 00:28:02,093 Speaker 11: with people who can't talk through things. 584 00:28:02,133 --> 00:28:07,053 Speaker 3: Hello, Belinda, Hi, you've been ghosted. Yes, I've been as 585 00:28:07,053 --> 00:28:08,733 Speaker 3: an adult, as. 586 00:28:08,533 --> 00:28:11,213 Speaker 6: An adult by my best friend. We were friends for 587 00:28:11,213 --> 00:28:14,933 Speaker 6: about twenty years and then we had gone out one night, 588 00:28:15,093 --> 00:28:18,653 Speaker 6: had a great night, and then the next day I 589 00:28:18,693 --> 00:28:20,293 Speaker 6: missaged her and said, oh gosh, there was such a 590 00:28:20,293 --> 00:28:24,173 Speaker 6: great night, and she didn't message back, and then numerous 591 00:28:24,213 --> 00:28:26,933 Speaker 6: tis messages. I'm like, have you lost your phone? Two 592 00:28:26,973 --> 00:28:29,653 Speaker 6: weeks go by it and hear from her, and then 593 00:28:29,933 --> 00:28:33,933 Speaker 6: she calls me and hangs up, and then I go, oh, 594 00:28:34,173 --> 00:28:35,973 Speaker 6: what's sorry, I missed your call, she said, and then 595 00:28:35,973 --> 00:28:38,813 Speaker 6: she just messages butt dial and there's the last I 596 00:28:38,933 --> 00:28:39,493 Speaker 6: heard from her. 597 00:28:39,933 --> 00:28:42,293 Speaker 3: Oh wow off. 598 00:28:43,013 --> 00:28:45,693 Speaker 6: Well, yes, but it's like one of those things that's 599 00:28:45,733 --> 00:28:47,893 Speaker 6: like the unknown, you know, like what did I do? 600 00:28:48,253 --> 00:28:50,533 Speaker 6: I left lots of messages like saying like come on 601 00:28:50,693 --> 00:28:52,853 Speaker 6: talk to me, like cool, what's what's the problem. Do 602 00:28:52,933 --> 00:28:54,533 Speaker 6: I need to turn up to your house? Like what 603 00:28:54,693 --> 00:28:58,493 Speaker 6: is going on? And just ghosted nothing. 604 00:28:59,093 --> 00:29:02,293 Speaker 3: I expect that from fifteen year olds. I'm not saying 605 00:29:02,333 --> 00:29:04,933 Speaker 3: you you your mate there, you're old mate. That's just terrible. 606 00:29:05,613 --> 00:29:07,573 Speaker 6: Well, I just don't think there could have been anything 607 00:29:07,573 --> 00:29:10,653 Speaker 6: that could have happened that would warrant us, you. 608 00:29:10,693 --> 00:29:13,093 Speaker 3: Know, like maybe she's threatened by Bloin because you're so 609 00:29:13,133 --> 00:29:16,253 Speaker 3: stunning and such fun and such an amazingly dynamic person, 610 00:29:16,253 --> 00:29:17,413 Speaker 3: whause I can't hang out with her. 611 00:29:18,853 --> 00:29:19,933 Speaker 4: That's the reason. 612 00:29:19,973 --> 00:29:20,573 Speaker 12: That's what it is. 613 00:29:21,213 --> 00:29:23,253 Speaker 3: Take that away with you, Belinda, Thank you for calling. 614 00:29:23,853 --> 00:29:28,413 Speaker 1: Thank you for more from Simon Barnett and James Daniels. 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