1 00:00:06,667 --> 00:00:10,387 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Weekend Sport podcast with Jason Vine 2 00:00:10,707 --> 00:00:16,707 Speaker 1: from News Talks EDB. You All Blacks coach Scott Robertson 3 00:00:16,747 --> 00:00:19,427 Speaker 1: taking your calls on eight hundred and eighty ten eighty 4 00:00:20,267 --> 00:00:22,867 Speaker 1: on Weekend Sport with Jason. 5 00:00:22,587 --> 00:00:23,987 Speaker 2: Lye and GJ. 6 00:00:24,147 --> 00:00:27,147 Speaker 1: Gardner Holmes, New Zealand's most trusted home builder. 7 00:00:27,387 --> 00:00:31,267 Speaker 2: Muse sem Yes, it is welcome back into the show. 8 00:00:31,307 --> 00:00:33,267 Speaker 2: This is Weekend Sport on News Talks EDB coming to 9 00:00:33,347 --> 00:00:36,347 Speaker 2: your live from the wonderful New Zealand Campus of Innovation 10 00:00:36,587 --> 00:00:38,907 Speaker 2: and Sports. Seven past one. I'm Jason Pine. It is 11 00:00:38,947 --> 00:00:41,187 Speaker 2: a great pleasure to welcome in the man, who, as 12 00:00:41,187 --> 00:00:43,907 Speaker 2: I said before one o'clock many believe, has the biggest 13 00:00:43,987 --> 00:00:46,427 Speaker 2: job in New Zealand, not the Prime Minister, but the 14 00:00:46,547 --> 00:00:49,427 Speaker 2: coach of the All Black Scott Robertson is here. Nice 15 00:00:49,427 --> 00:00:50,027 Speaker 2: to see you, Raizer. 16 00:00:50,067 --> 00:00:51,947 Speaker 3: How are you good afternoon? Good to be in the 17 00:00:52,027 --> 00:00:53,467 Speaker 3: hut and thanks for having me on. Jason. 18 00:00:53,507 --> 00:00:55,427 Speaker 2: It's great to have you have you with us. I've 19 00:00:55,427 --> 00:00:56,987 Speaker 2: got a bunch of questions. You'll have some as well. 20 00:00:57,067 --> 00:00:58,827 Speaker 2: Nine two nine to two for the text or eight 21 00:00:58,947 --> 00:01:01,907 Speaker 2: hundred eighty ten eighty. Scott's happy to take some of 22 00:01:01,947 --> 00:01:05,467 Speaker 2: your calls and questions. You were appointed All Blacks coach 23 00:01:05,507 --> 00:01:08,187 Speaker 2: on the twenty first of March twenty twenty three. You 24 00:01:08,347 --> 00:01:10,107 Speaker 2: finally got your hands on the squad. How are the 25 00:01:10,147 --> 00:01:12,107 Speaker 2: four hundred and sixty six days in between? 26 00:01:13,187 --> 00:01:16,627 Speaker 3: Obviously had a few games in between that before you know, 27 00:01:16,707 --> 00:01:21,467 Speaker 3: the my last one down with the Crusaders, and spent 28 00:01:21,547 --> 00:01:24,347 Speaker 3: the off season painting getting all the selection of the staff. 29 00:01:25,667 --> 00:01:31,827 Speaker 3: So excuse me, the coaching group, management group finalized how 30 00:01:31,867 --> 00:01:34,467 Speaker 3: we're going to play and then had a whole super 31 00:01:34,467 --> 00:01:37,587 Speaker 3: season to select and what the seasons it's been. You know, 32 00:01:37,747 --> 00:01:41,907 Speaker 3: some great names been put up through their performances, and 33 00:01:42,467 --> 00:01:44,147 Speaker 3: you know over that period of time, that year that 34 00:01:44,867 --> 00:01:47,147 Speaker 3: you've had, because you know, I've been coaching back to 35 00:01:47,187 --> 00:01:48,987 Speaker 3: back to back over a long period of time, it 36 00:01:48,987 --> 00:01:51,307 Speaker 3: was good just to sit back and reflect and make 37 00:01:51,347 --> 00:01:55,267 Speaker 3: sure you plan for the biggest year ever. Fourteen tests, 38 00:01:55,387 --> 00:01:59,027 Speaker 3: nine of them away. So it's good to get some 39 00:01:59,027 --> 00:01:59,787 Speaker 3: players in front of Heather. 40 00:02:00,267 --> 00:02:02,027 Speaker 2: I was going to ask that because how challenging has 41 00:02:02,067 --> 00:02:05,027 Speaker 2: it been given the comparison to the last six seven 42 00:02:05,067 --> 00:02:06,507 Speaker 2: years or whatever it's been. When you were at the 43 00:02:06,507 --> 00:02:08,947 Speaker 2: the Crusaders coach, you see your players week in week out. 44 00:02:08,987 --> 00:02:11,387 Speaker 2: You have a game on the weekend. How challenging has 45 00:02:11,427 --> 00:02:13,587 Speaker 2: it been to be patient and wait to get your 46 00:02:13,587 --> 00:02:16,187 Speaker 2: hands on your team? 47 00:02:15,707 --> 00:02:19,027 Speaker 3: Uh? Yeah, Look you've because you've gotten for a short 48 00:02:19,027 --> 00:02:21,707 Speaker 3: period of time. You've got their ten days before your play. 49 00:02:21,747 --> 00:02:23,987 Speaker 3: You've got all these ideas, you've got all these thoughts 50 00:02:23,987 --> 00:02:28,627 Speaker 3: how you're going to beat England, But how do you 51 00:02:28,827 --> 00:02:31,667 Speaker 3: put it off across simply enough? So you give them enough, 52 00:02:33,787 --> 00:02:37,467 Speaker 3: not too much, not too little. You know, there's a 53 00:02:37,507 --> 00:02:39,467 Speaker 3: fine balance and the art of it. So we've got 54 00:02:39,467 --> 00:02:41,987 Speaker 3: a lot of experienced players, you know, we've we've talked 55 00:02:41,987 --> 00:02:45,027 Speaker 3: to them, We've we've covered up day by day. We've 56 00:02:45,027 --> 00:02:46,427 Speaker 3: got to have a check, you know. You've got to 57 00:02:46,467 --> 00:02:48,227 Speaker 3: get every day right, not just the ten days. You've 58 00:02:48,227 --> 00:02:49,907 Speaker 3: got to get every day right. There's the first time 59 00:02:49,947 --> 00:02:53,587 Speaker 3: we've focused on how do we own our own areas? 60 00:02:54,027 --> 00:02:57,507 Speaker 3: And then the connection piece, you know, and we'll talk 61 00:02:57,547 --> 00:03:00,027 Speaker 3: about intencs when out here. This is the perfect pace 62 00:03:00,027 --> 00:03:00,387 Speaker 3: to do it. 63 00:03:00,467 --> 00:03:03,747 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a terrific facility. In terms of coming up 64 00:03:03,787 --> 00:03:05,787 Speaker 2: with your squad. Let's talk a little bit about that. 65 00:03:05,867 --> 00:03:08,747 Speaker 2: The first that you picked, did you come up with 66 00:03:08,827 --> 00:03:11,827 Speaker 2: a game plan first and then select the players to 67 00:03:11,867 --> 00:03:14,027 Speaker 2: implement that game plan. Or did you look at the 68 00:03:14,067 --> 00:03:16,907 Speaker 2: New Zealand Elite rugby landscape and say, Roc, I've got 69 00:03:16,907 --> 00:03:19,707 Speaker 2: those guys, here's the plan they might be able to implement. 70 00:03:19,867 --> 00:03:20,947 Speaker 2: Which way around was it? 71 00:03:21,107 --> 00:03:25,587 Speaker 3: I think it's a combination of both. You know, to 72 00:03:25,587 --> 00:03:27,907 Speaker 3: to beat the team in front of your ability to adapt. 73 00:03:28,147 --> 00:03:30,627 Speaker 3: You know, if you're if you're going to play really 74 00:03:31,427 --> 00:03:36,547 Speaker 3: confronting head on game, go through teams or go around teams, 75 00:03:36,947 --> 00:03:38,547 Speaker 3: you've got to be able to do both. And I 76 00:03:38,547 --> 00:03:40,227 Speaker 3: think that's what we've done over the years. Saven we 77 00:03:40,427 --> 00:03:44,667 Speaker 3: is you got a high skill set. You know, we're physical, 78 00:03:44,947 --> 00:03:46,987 Speaker 3: you know, can offload in the tackle, we can go through, 79 00:03:46,987 --> 00:03:49,667 Speaker 3: We've got a great set piece, We've got some you know, 80 00:03:49,947 --> 00:03:53,467 Speaker 3: a really a balanced group. And then it's how you 81 00:03:53,507 --> 00:03:55,267 Speaker 3: manage the game and who's in front of you. We 82 00:03:55,307 --> 00:03:58,067 Speaker 3: know that you know England style, they pressure aside, they 83 00:03:59,427 --> 00:04:02,507 Speaker 3: trom when there and the ground on you, and you've 84 00:04:02,547 --> 00:04:04,267 Speaker 3: got to adapt to that. You know, you might not 85 00:04:04,307 --> 00:04:06,907 Speaker 3: give many options opportunities or you might get a few, 86 00:04:06,987 --> 00:04:08,667 Speaker 3: so be ready for both. 87 00:04:08,987 --> 00:04:13,307 Speaker 2: How did you come up with your captain h The first. 88 00:04:13,027 --> 00:04:15,147 Speaker 3: Thing for me is I look at that as the 89 00:04:15,347 --> 00:04:18,227 Speaker 3: on field captain, you know, the captaincy. Are they successful 90 00:04:18,267 --> 00:04:21,547 Speaker 3: as captain? How hard do they work? Are they respected 91 00:04:21,587 --> 00:04:26,187 Speaker 3: by the opposition? And obviously I've mentioned before with Scott's Scoter, 92 00:04:26,227 --> 00:04:30,427 Speaker 3: it's easy because if you Scott's Scooter is that he's 93 00:04:30,467 --> 00:04:35,307 Speaker 3: all of those. We've got a great relationship and he's 94 00:04:35,347 --> 00:04:35,627 Speaker 3: the man. 95 00:04:35,987 --> 00:04:39,387 Speaker 2: Yeah, did you allow him? I think I heard you say, 96 00:04:39,387 --> 00:04:42,387 Speaker 2: but did you allow him to select his vice captains 97 00:04:42,507 --> 00:04:43,947 Speaker 2: or did you have a hand in that as well? 98 00:04:44,027 --> 00:04:44,107 Speaker 4: Oh? 99 00:04:44,227 --> 00:04:46,307 Speaker 3: No, for sure. You know, I gave him a plenty 100 00:04:46,347 --> 00:04:50,707 Speaker 3: of time to think about the role, and he talked 101 00:04:50,707 --> 00:04:54,187 Speaker 3: to Smiley as you do if you're a Barrett. Yep, 102 00:04:55,547 --> 00:05:00,067 Speaker 3: God bless the Barretts and and the you know, he 103 00:05:00,107 --> 00:05:02,427 Speaker 3: went through the process and he's a deep thinker, and he, 104 00:05:03,547 --> 00:05:06,267 Speaker 3: you know, was when he came back he was extremely 105 00:05:06,347 --> 00:05:10,147 Speaker 3: he grateful for the opportunity to humbled and ready to go. 106 00:05:10,947 --> 00:05:12,907 Speaker 3: You know that the period and time and the captain 107 00:05:12,947 --> 00:05:15,347 Speaker 3: seeing the success he had where the Crusaders was a 108 00:05:15,387 --> 00:05:17,507 Speaker 3: great opportunity from the step up and where is it 109 00:05:17,547 --> 00:05:20,827 Speaker 3: in his age? You ready? 110 00:05:21,027 --> 00:05:22,267 Speaker 2: I feel like if you're asked to be the all 111 00:05:22,307 --> 00:05:24,627 Speaker 2: Blacks captain, you just say yes straight away? Or is 112 00:05:24,667 --> 00:05:26,987 Speaker 2: that not the case, because clearly he went away and 113 00:05:27,427 --> 00:05:28,907 Speaker 2: thought long and hard about it. Did you ever think 114 00:05:28,907 --> 00:05:29,507 Speaker 2: he might say no? 115 00:05:32,587 --> 00:05:32,627 Speaker 5: No? 116 00:05:32,747 --> 00:05:36,267 Speaker 3: I just know how he works. I think if you 117 00:05:36,427 --> 00:05:38,707 Speaker 3: have said no straight away, that'll be different. Like he 118 00:05:38,827 --> 00:05:41,067 Speaker 3: was notdding when he asked me when I asked him sorry, 119 00:05:41,067 --> 00:05:44,187 Speaker 3: and we had the conversation and he goes, yep, yep, 120 00:05:45,107 --> 00:05:46,547 Speaker 3: I've just got to talk to a couple of people 121 00:05:46,547 --> 00:05:48,187 Speaker 3: when he did. That's just the way he works. People 122 00:05:48,187 --> 00:05:48,667 Speaker 3: are different. 123 00:05:48,787 --> 00:05:54,667 Speaker 5: And yeah, how conscious did you have to be when 124 00:05:54,907 --> 00:05:59,267 Speaker 5: selecting the team of your association with the Crusaders and 125 00:05:59,347 --> 00:06:02,107 Speaker 5: making sure that there was no suggestion that you were 126 00:06:02,387 --> 00:06:04,987 Speaker 5: just picking guys so you had a great knowledge of 127 00:06:05,987 --> 00:06:07,187 Speaker 5: from your time at the Crusaders. 128 00:06:07,187 --> 00:06:08,427 Speaker 2: Did that come into your mind at all? 129 00:06:08,987 --> 00:06:11,347 Speaker 3: Well, I'm picking the best players, you know. I think 130 00:06:11,347 --> 00:06:15,187 Speaker 3: that's the key thing. Whatever duty they're wearing, the best 131 00:06:15,147 --> 00:06:19,187 Speaker 3: players for that position in our country. Obviously he's going 132 00:06:19,227 --> 00:06:24,747 Speaker 3: to be combinations and the you know, experience, and but 133 00:06:24,827 --> 00:06:27,707 Speaker 3: there was my mindset pick the best player. You know, 134 00:06:27,707 --> 00:06:31,947 Speaker 3: we've got a really good balanced squad and you know, 135 00:06:31,947 --> 00:06:34,067 Speaker 3: you always have people challenge your thoughts. You know, the 136 00:06:34,147 --> 00:06:37,027 Speaker 3: way we set it up with our selection and our criteria, 137 00:06:38,347 --> 00:06:41,507 Speaker 3: with the selection, with the coaching staff doing it, and 138 00:06:42,107 --> 00:06:43,947 Speaker 3: some of the had a customer on it when you 139 00:06:44,027 --> 00:06:46,547 Speaker 3: need to, and we had discussions. So look, I think 140 00:06:46,587 --> 00:06:49,107 Speaker 3: it's really really balanced. And I think if you're a 141 00:06:49,147 --> 00:06:51,227 Speaker 3: coach and you've coached a team, it's naturally people ask 142 00:06:51,347 --> 00:06:53,667 Speaker 3: that question, isn't it. The last coach probably had the 143 00:06:53,707 --> 00:06:56,067 Speaker 3: same question as the last coach, the same question, so 144 00:06:56,187 --> 00:06:57,547 Speaker 3: that you're doing your job well. 145 00:06:58,907 --> 00:07:01,867 Speaker 2: I guess because I think people just assume and I'm 146 00:07:01,867 --> 00:07:04,827 Speaker 2: sure it's the case that you have got a deeper 147 00:07:04,907 --> 00:07:08,907 Speaker 2: relationship with God. So you've guided for nearly a decade 148 00:07:08,907 --> 00:07:11,347 Speaker 2: in black and red. You know what makes them tick, 149 00:07:11,387 --> 00:07:13,547 Speaker 2: you know what they're capable of. So I guess it 150 00:07:13,627 --> 00:07:15,147 Speaker 2: would be natural in any ways to say, you know what, 151 00:07:15,187 --> 00:07:17,067 Speaker 2: I know what that guy's about. I'm not quite sure 152 00:07:17,067 --> 00:07:18,427 Speaker 2: about that guy. If it's a flip of the corn, 153 00:07:18,467 --> 00:07:19,547 Speaker 2: you take the guy you know, don't you. 154 00:07:19,667 --> 00:07:22,387 Speaker 3: Yeah, but I suppose he's been an unconscious bias or 155 00:07:22,627 --> 00:07:24,827 Speaker 3: is a natural bias towards people you know, and you've 156 00:07:24,827 --> 00:07:28,227 Speaker 3: had desist and trust, but it's still going to be earned. 157 00:07:28,387 --> 00:07:30,547 Speaker 3: I think that's the first thing you know, and you 158 00:07:30,587 --> 00:07:33,627 Speaker 3: said with a squad that we've picked, is it's been earned? 159 00:07:34,387 --> 00:07:37,027 Speaker 2: And what about guys who you've worked with and had 160 00:07:37,067 --> 00:07:39,307 Speaker 2: a long relationship with. In fact, I'll give you a 161 00:07:39,307 --> 00:07:43,027 Speaker 2: specific example, David HARVILLI leaving him out of this squad. 162 00:07:43,267 --> 00:07:44,747 Speaker 2: How difficult a conversation was that. 163 00:07:46,587 --> 00:07:50,907 Speaker 3: Just an honest one, really clear what he needs to do, 164 00:07:51,187 --> 00:07:54,227 Speaker 3: you know, to get into the squad. And while we've 165 00:07:54,227 --> 00:07:57,907 Speaker 3: done it, so that was simple as that. Look, he 166 00:07:57,947 --> 00:08:00,467 Speaker 3: appreciates it because you're honest with people for a long 167 00:08:00,467 --> 00:08:04,227 Speaker 3: period of time, you build that trust and he acknowledged it. 168 00:08:05,907 --> 00:08:09,307 Speaker 3: You know, you probably hadn't put himself in a position 169 00:08:09,347 --> 00:08:12,307 Speaker 3: to be in that for And there's a players, a 170 00:08:12,307 --> 00:08:14,867 Speaker 3: couple of plawers playing great footy and and that's how 171 00:08:14,867 --> 00:08:15,467 Speaker 3: hard it is with the. 172 00:08:16,747 --> 00:08:20,067 Speaker 2: Why didn't you select hoskinsitutu. 173 00:08:21,827 --> 00:08:21,947 Speaker 6: Uh. 174 00:08:22,987 --> 00:08:27,507 Speaker 3: As I've said before, it's important I understanding and repeating 175 00:08:27,547 --> 00:08:28,147 Speaker 3: what I've said. 176 00:08:27,987 --> 00:08:30,627 Speaker 2: Before, just pretend it's for the first time. 177 00:08:33,107 --> 00:08:38,147 Speaker 3: Look Test football, it's very very physical with the ball 178 00:08:38,187 --> 00:08:42,227 Speaker 3: and without the ball, and it's especially with the loose forwards. 179 00:08:42,227 --> 00:08:46,867 Speaker 3: It's the ability to the influence on both sides. You know, 180 00:08:47,707 --> 00:08:51,827 Speaker 3: the pressure cycles that you're on, the ability to you know, 181 00:08:51,947 --> 00:08:55,187 Speaker 3: be tackling for long periods of time. Your work right 182 00:08:55,227 --> 00:08:57,987 Speaker 3: off the ball is really really important. So there's conversations 183 00:08:57,987 --> 00:09:04,107 Speaker 3: I've had and we've put players that we believe can 184 00:09:04,147 --> 00:09:04,547 Speaker 3: achieve that. 185 00:09:06,467 --> 00:09:08,627 Speaker 2: Is it fair to say that Ardie Save is likely 186 00:09:08,667 --> 00:09:11,267 Speaker 2: to be the starting number eight and therefore anybody else 187 00:09:11,307 --> 00:09:14,787 Speaker 2: in the number eight position is naturally going to be 188 00:09:15,347 --> 00:09:16,987 Speaker 2: a bit of a backup anyway. 189 00:09:17,267 --> 00:09:23,387 Speaker 3: Well, he will play, Yeah, start there, he can play footy. 190 00:09:23,507 --> 00:09:28,227 Speaker 3: He's a great, great influence, great leader, like he's awesome 191 00:09:28,587 --> 00:09:33,907 Speaker 3: around the environment and look here, totally likely he's going 192 00:09:33,947 --> 00:09:36,667 Speaker 3: to he's going to start in the team and you know, 193 00:09:36,787 --> 00:09:38,587 Speaker 3: like what he did the World Cup and he's don't 194 00:09:38,627 --> 00:09:42,387 Speaker 3: know if your last few years of influence on off 195 00:09:42,427 --> 00:09:43,427 Speaker 3: the field is very critical. 196 00:09:43,827 --> 00:09:46,267 Speaker 2: Tell us about the brief that you gave to each 197 00:09:46,307 --> 00:09:49,187 Speaker 2: of your assistant coaches around selection. I spoke to Jason 198 00:09:49,187 --> 00:09:50,827 Speaker 2: Holland on the radio at the beginning of the week, 199 00:09:51,027 --> 00:09:53,427 Speaker 2: just after the team was sam I got the midfield backs, 200 00:09:53,867 --> 00:09:57,147 Speaker 2: Scott Hanson got you half backs and first fights. You 201 00:09:57,227 --> 00:09:59,867 Speaker 2: still had the power to veto though presumably. 202 00:09:59,747 --> 00:10:02,107 Speaker 3: Did Yeah, that's what that's why you're the head coach. 203 00:10:04,827 --> 00:10:07,587 Speaker 3: Here goes. If things don't go well on you, you 204 00:10:07,627 --> 00:10:10,787 Speaker 3: get the opportunity to make the calls. And it's going 205 00:10:10,827 --> 00:10:15,307 Speaker 3: to be always a debate along the way. In lock, 206 00:10:15,467 --> 00:10:20,867 Speaker 3: ninety percent of them were we agreed. It's like most things, 207 00:10:20,867 --> 00:10:23,667 Speaker 3: it says last couple that you go deep on and 208 00:10:23,707 --> 00:10:25,027 Speaker 3: then if you have to make a call, you do. 209 00:10:25,547 --> 00:10:27,707 Speaker 2: You've got Rugby Championship and then the end of your tour. 210 00:10:27,747 --> 00:10:29,467 Speaker 2: How many guys you reckon you'll need this year? 211 00:10:29,547 --> 00:10:32,987 Speaker 3: Forty Yeah, on average, we looked at the numbers. There's 212 00:10:33,027 --> 00:10:36,107 Speaker 3: somewhere between sort of forty maybe to forty four if fits, 213 00:10:36,787 --> 00:10:38,667 Speaker 3: a little bit more difficult, but so there's going to 214 00:10:38,747 --> 00:10:41,987 Speaker 3: be opportunities. You know, there's the squad's going to be in. 215 00:10:42,067 --> 00:10:46,067 Speaker 3: We have three different squads this year. We're we're going 216 00:10:46,107 --> 00:10:49,147 Speaker 3: on incredible end of the year tour as you know, 217 00:10:50,267 --> 00:10:52,347 Speaker 3: and these are AB's fifteen as well. So there's a 218 00:10:52,387 --> 00:10:54,307 Speaker 3: lot of selections, a lot of opportunities for people to 219 00:10:54,307 --> 00:10:56,987 Speaker 3: play and get themselves at a black Jersey. 220 00:10:57,267 --> 00:11:00,227 Speaker 2: How do you assess the depth of I'll give you 221 00:11:00,267 --> 00:11:03,267 Speaker 2: a couple of positions. Locke. We lost Sam white Lock, 222 00:11:03,347 --> 00:11:05,947 Speaker 2: Brady Retelling, we almost lost Patrick two a lot of 223 00:11:06,507 --> 00:11:09,747 Speaker 2: incredibly as powers of a recovery were beyond what any 224 00:11:09,787 --> 00:11:13,467 Speaker 2: of us imagined. Adie was sl lock forward. 225 00:11:15,947 --> 00:11:18,347 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's interesting when you do like two in a 226 00:11:18,467 --> 00:11:21,027 Speaker 3: row like two at the same time. Sorry, the highest 227 00:11:21,067 --> 00:11:21,507 Speaker 3: quality you. 228 00:11:23,027 --> 00:11:23,107 Speaker 7: Do. 229 00:11:23,227 --> 00:11:25,667 Speaker 3: Look and reflect and obviously with Petty coming in for 230 00:11:25,787 --> 00:11:29,947 Speaker 3: the odd tests you've got scooters on sixty odd and 231 00:11:30,027 --> 00:11:33,667 Speaker 3: you've you know the Josh Loud's been injured the majority 232 00:11:33,707 --> 00:11:36,467 Speaker 3: of the year and test locks are big, they're beg, 233 00:11:36,547 --> 00:11:40,307 Speaker 3: they're tor men or they're extremely mobile and you look 234 00:11:40,307 --> 00:11:44,947 Speaker 3: at the Irish a second row just the incredible mobility 235 00:11:44,947 --> 00:11:48,907 Speaker 3: of it. So look this one area like in then 236 00:11:48,947 --> 00:11:51,347 Speaker 3: obviously with Petty coming back, made a massive difference for us. 237 00:11:51,387 --> 00:11:54,947 Speaker 3: But you know we've got amaging merging Place program that 238 00:11:55,067 --> 00:11:58,027 Speaker 3: we tag in with, you know, looking at them on 239 00:11:58,187 --> 00:11:59,947 Speaker 3: and off field, which trying to fast track them as 240 00:11:59,947 --> 00:12:02,187 Speaker 3: possibly can to make sure they come through and get 241 00:12:02,227 --> 00:12:04,787 Speaker 3: the size on they get the aerial schools that required 242 00:12:05,347 --> 00:12:09,107 Speaker 3: a lot of them, you know, tor me and take time. 243 00:12:09,667 --> 00:12:12,067 Speaker 3: They're a little bit longer than others. You know, they 244 00:12:12,107 --> 00:12:14,427 Speaker 3: can develop blade. You know, Sam Day's in with us 245 00:12:14,507 --> 00:12:18,347 Speaker 3: you know, he's said as Sam Whitelock got good feet work, footwork, 246 00:12:18,627 --> 00:12:20,987 Speaker 3: he's got a great engine. So him just being in 247 00:12:21,067 --> 00:12:24,027 Speaker 3: this week and being around in his injurycovery is you know, 248 00:12:24,107 --> 00:12:25,707 Speaker 3: he'll just grow and he'll come quick. 249 00:12:26,227 --> 00:12:29,227 Speaker 2: And by comparison, there seems to be any number of 250 00:12:29,307 --> 00:12:32,547 Speaker 2: loose forward you could have chosen the opposition of us. 251 00:12:32,787 --> 00:12:34,707 Speaker 2: Love watching all the six, sevens and eight running around. 252 00:12:34,747 --> 00:12:38,627 Speaker 3: Are you oh, the quality of the depth, the different 253 00:12:38,707 --> 00:12:40,947 Speaker 3: skill set, you know, your trademarks have got, you know, 254 00:12:41,107 --> 00:12:44,827 Speaker 3: things that they go back to their strengths, you know 255 00:12:44,907 --> 00:12:47,547 Speaker 3: under the head of the game. And you know, like 256 00:12:47,907 --> 00:12:51,147 Speaker 3: like I as a prime example, what a season, breakout 257 00:12:51,187 --> 00:12:54,747 Speaker 3: season for him, both break great, both sides of the ball, 258 00:12:55,507 --> 00:12:58,547 Speaker 3: so quick in the line out. But he to pay seven, 259 00:12:58,627 --> 00:13:00,667 Speaker 3: eight and two positions. And that's a great thing about 260 00:13:00,867 --> 00:13:03,787 Speaker 3: the loose food ward group that we've got here. They 261 00:13:03,867 --> 00:13:09,107 Speaker 3: all can play two positions, you know, especially if you're 262 00:13:09,107 --> 00:13:11,067 Speaker 3: going to be you're on the bench, if you're going 263 00:13:11,147 --> 00:13:12,467 Speaker 3: to come off the bench, you've got to play a 264 00:13:12,547 --> 00:13:13,227 Speaker 3: couple or three. 265 00:13:14,427 --> 00:13:16,187 Speaker 2: Are you Do you think the data of a lock 266 00:13:16,267 --> 00:13:18,747 Speaker 2: loose forward utility you're gone or is that still a thing? 267 00:13:19,067 --> 00:13:19,267 Speaker 5: Yeah? 268 00:13:19,707 --> 00:13:22,387 Speaker 3: Look, I think Shennon Frazel was on a prime example 269 00:13:22,427 --> 00:13:26,747 Speaker 3: of that. Simmer Penny finale. Can can do it all 270 00:13:26,787 --> 00:13:29,227 Speaker 3: the other way around. You know, it can go to 271 00:13:29,307 --> 00:13:33,627 Speaker 3: six if required, which is done many times just because 272 00:13:33,667 --> 00:13:35,947 Speaker 3: you're you're locking stock. So yeah, look, you've got still 273 00:13:35,947 --> 00:13:37,707 Speaker 3: got hybrid players. You've got players you can play in 274 00:13:37,707 --> 00:13:39,227 Speaker 3: a couple of positions. Look at the South Averring and 275 00:13:39,227 --> 00:13:41,947 Speaker 3: you can go number eight and hooker. And I think 276 00:13:41,987 --> 00:13:44,987 Speaker 3: it's really critical as you get closer to World Cup cycles, 277 00:13:45,027 --> 00:13:47,947 Speaker 3: you're you know you're thirty three, that you're picking the 278 00:13:48,107 --> 00:13:51,867 Speaker 3: versatility and the ability to play two or three positions. 279 00:13:52,067 --> 00:13:52,907 Speaker 3: We'll get you in the squad. 280 00:13:53,147 --> 00:13:54,387 Speaker 2: You mentioned the World Cup there and I had that 281 00:13:54,467 --> 00:13:56,627 Speaker 2: written down. How much of what you do in twenty 282 00:13:56,707 --> 00:13:59,347 Speaker 2: twenty four is with an eye to the next Rugby 283 00:13:59,387 --> 00:14:01,067 Speaker 2: World Cup in twenty twenty seven. 284 00:14:03,147 --> 00:14:05,867 Speaker 3: Look, I think the importance of the beet Jersey is 285 00:14:05,867 --> 00:14:10,187 Speaker 3: you're winning to develop. There's a little bit of expectation 286 00:14:10,347 --> 00:14:12,987 Speaker 3: that comes with it, and I'm well aware of that, 287 00:14:13,227 --> 00:14:19,867 Speaker 3: and so it's important the win the test bats in 288 00:14:19,867 --> 00:14:23,467 Speaker 3: front of you, but grow people give them opportunities, get 289 00:14:23,507 --> 00:14:28,387 Speaker 3: them in combinations and so they over you set them 290 00:14:28,467 --> 00:14:30,867 Speaker 3: up to succeed over the next four years. Try them. 291 00:14:30,907 --> 00:14:33,827 Speaker 3: Are they test for ballers? Can they handle it? Can 292 00:14:33,907 --> 00:14:37,387 Speaker 3: you The weeks have big, the expectations high, the pressures 293 00:14:37,427 --> 00:14:38,867 Speaker 3: are and we get them ready for it, and then 294 00:14:38,907 --> 00:14:42,187 Speaker 3: the opportunities for them when we find out and some 295 00:14:42,307 --> 00:14:43,107 Speaker 3: people surprise you. 296 00:14:43,627 --> 00:14:46,587 Speaker 2: What about guys who you aren't sure will make it 297 00:14:46,707 --> 00:14:49,467 Speaker 2: to twenty twenty seven? You know, they're in their thirties 298 00:14:49,707 --> 00:14:51,787 Speaker 2: and there is some guys in your squad with you know, 299 00:14:51,907 --> 00:14:55,387 Speaker 2: a lot of experience. Who might Who is everybody who's 300 00:14:55,667 --> 00:14:59,307 Speaker 2: been picked this week? Do you think that they'll be 301 00:14:59,947 --> 00:15:03,507 Speaker 2: eligible or available in twenty twenty seven? All going well, 302 00:15:05,667 --> 00:15:06,267 Speaker 2: it's good question. 303 00:15:06,427 --> 00:15:10,187 Speaker 3: And without going through the food od that we're here. 304 00:15:10,267 --> 00:15:13,827 Speaker 3: Off the top of my mind, oh look, it's amazing 305 00:15:15,827 --> 00:15:19,907 Speaker 3: how old you can get, you know, no joint injuries 306 00:15:20,147 --> 00:15:24,747 Speaker 3: in your career, the longevity can get after looking after 307 00:15:24,827 --> 00:15:30,667 Speaker 3: your body, the you know, the sports science, the recovery 308 00:15:30,827 --> 00:15:33,467 Speaker 3: is incredible. And they're playing good Arabian like look at 309 00:15:33,467 --> 00:15:35,307 Speaker 3: look at the South African team. They had a lot 310 00:15:35,347 --> 00:15:40,987 Speaker 3: of goal older mature players that had great leadership and 311 00:15:41,907 --> 00:15:44,067 Speaker 3: in the last all back squad that went over you know, 312 00:15:44,107 --> 00:15:45,907 Speaker 3: it's still playing good foot den gold, look at us 313 00:15:47,067 --> 00:15:51,067 Speaker 3: dan culture age to look at his you know, contribution 314 00:15:51,307 --> 00:15:53,227 Speaker 3: on and off the field, So you need them for sure. 315 00:15:53,627 --> 00:15:56,147 Speaker 3: Look I can't answer there right now four years out, 316 00:15:57,147 --> 00:16:00,347 Speaker 3: but I'm sure there are in any way, just. 317 00:16:00,347 --> 00:16:03,267 Speaker 2: A couple moreful to take a break. How much of 318 00:16:03,347 --> 00:16:06,987 Speaker 2: what was so successful for you at the Crusaders is 319 00:16:07,147 --> 00:16:09,387 Speaker 2: transferable into the all Blacks environment. 320 00:16:10,707 --> 00:16:13,227 Speaker 3: All the culture and leadership stuff and like on field coaching. 321 00:16:13,227 --> 00:16:14,747 Speaker 3: And that's how I sort of break it up those 322 00:16:14,787 --> 00:16:19,147 Speaker 3: three areas. You've got to get your game right along 323 00:16:19,187 --> 00:16:23,267 Speaker 3: with your leadership how they how do they drive the 324 00:16:23,307 --> 00:16:24,987 Speaker 3: team on and off the field. And then also the 325 00:16:25,027 --> 00:16:27,587 Speaker 3: cultural but you know which identity, who you are, where 326 00:16:27,667 --> 00:16:32,027 Speaker 3: you're playing for, what do you care about any roles 327 00:16:32,067 --> 00:16:34,427 Speaker 3: in responsibilities? And then there comes with the cultural the 328 00:16:34,467 --> 00:16:37,107 Speaker 3: people side of it. So a lot of that transference 329 00:16:37,187 --> 00:16:39,867 Speaker 3: comes along and it's a black jusey. We're taking it 330 00:16:39,907 --> 00:16:43,707 Speaker 3: to a whole country now. You know, we've got a 331 00:16:43,747 --> 00:16:47,627 Speaker 3: great responsibility that we've been given by you know, our 332 00:16:47,707 --> 00:16:49,947 Speaker 3: ancestors and the people that have played in our Juwsey 333 00:16:50,067 --> 00:16:52,907 Speaker 3: before and all the fans that have been with us 334 00:16:52,907 --> 00:16:56,267 Speaker 3: along along the way. So it's just a lot bigger. 335 00:16:58,027 --> 00:16:59,787 Speaker 2: If I'm just trying to think of the right way 336 00:16:59,787 --> 00:17:02,347 Speaker 2: to ask this question that if someone looked down from 337 00:17:02,387 --> 00:17:04,507 Speaker 2: above and wasn't able to see whether you were the 338 00:17:04,547 --> 00:17:06,947 Speaker 2: Crusaders coach with the All Blacks coach, well they notice 339 00:17:06,947 --> 00:17:08,867 Speaker 2: a difference. Do you think you'll be different in an 340 00:17:08,867 --> 00:17:11,947 Speaker 2: All Blacks environment than you were in the Crusader's environment. 341 00:17:12,627 --> 00:17:13,267 Speaker 3: What do you think? 342 00:17:13,347 --> 00:17:15,027 Speaker 2: Well, I think they probably will be. I think they 343 00:17:15,107 --> 00:17:16,747 Speaker 2: probably will be. I'm interested to. 344 00:17:16,747 --> 00:17:20,507 Speaker 3: Know how though I look on I'm still the same pisce. 345 00:17:20,547 --> 00:17:23,427 Speaker 3: I'm not going to you know, the energy I bring 346 00:17:23,467 --> 00:17:25,187 Speaker 3: every day and the enjoyment of it, and you know 347 00:17:25,267 --> 00:17:27,387 Speaker 3: that we just hit a couple of hours training and 348 00:17:27,827 --> 00:17:32,467 Speaker 3: I'm walking around observing chipping and when I need to 349 00:17:33,187 --> 00:17:36,747 Speaker 3: giving a little bit of feedback to the coaches to 350 00:17:36,947 --> 00:17:40,027 Speaker 3: just using my eye. But because of Breda with the 351 00:17:40,147 --> 00:17:42,307 Speaker 3: you know the on field and off field stuff. You know, 352 00:17:42,387 --> 00:17:45,707 Speaker 3: we've got a commercial manager now and a rugby manager. 353 00:17:46,467 --> 00:17:49,147 Speaker 3: You know, we've got two CEOs in our organization. There's 354 00:17:49,147 --> 00:17:52,027 Speaker 3: a couple of hundred staff. So it's a bigger to 355 00:17:52,107 --> 00:17:55,347 Speaker 3: give you a context. You know, I don't know seven 356 00:17:55,427 --> 00:18:01,667 Speaker 3: lawyers you know we've got it's a big So you 357 00:18:01,867 --> 00:18:06,547 Speaker 3: need incredible coaching group around you and incredible management and 358 00:18:06,627 --> 00:18:08,827 Speaker 3: they have to be world leading. They truly do so. 359 00:18:09,467 --> 00:18:10,907 Speaker 3: You know I do my thing, but you have to 360 00:18:10,947 --> 00:18:13,227 Speaker 3: give ownership and trust to so many people to go 361 00:18:13,427 --> 00:18:17,147 Speaker 3: and and on their role and make the place, will 362 00:18:17,147 --> 00:18:20,827 Speaker 3: get the past prepared for you to be the best 363 00:18:20,867 --> 00:18:21,107 Speaker 3: I can. 364 00:18:21,587 --> 00:18:24,147 Speaker 2: Last question before the break is around how big it 365 00:18:24,307 --> 00:18:26,947 Speaker 2: is and how little time you have? How do you 366 00:18:27,627 --> 00:18:30,587 Speaker 2: work out the best use each day and each hour? 367 00:18:30,707 --> 00:18:32,467 Speaker 2: I mean you've given us an hour. This is incredible. 368 00:18:32,507 --> 00:18:34,307 Speaker 2: I know you're so busy, but how do you work 369 00:18:34,347 --> 00:18:36,307 Speaker 2: out the best use of every hour in your day? 370 00:18:37,827 --> 00:18:40,947 Speaker 3: Look, you've got to have time for people. It's number one. 371 00:18:41,507 --> 00:18:46,627 Speaker 3: And you've got to get your panning done early, and 372 00:18:46,747 --> 00:18:52,067 Speaker 3: then it's getting getting time in front, eyes on, eyes around, 373 00:18:52,307 --> 00:18:55,507 Speaker 3: the opportunities when you're eating their connection piece on and off, 374 00:18:55,787 --> 00:18:58,547 Speaker 3: being a steppy head looking not what that day is, 375 00:18:58,707 --> 00:19:00,707 Speaker 3: but the next week is in a couple of weeks. 376 00:19:01,187 --> 00:19:03,067 Speaker 3: You know, when you start getting into the NBC and 377 00:19:03,107 --> 00:19:08,107 Speaker 3: you've got guys paying, you're looking at the schedule for 378 00:19:08,147 --> 00:19:10,147 Speaker 3: the NPC, you've got all the injured guys that are 379 00:19:10,187 --> 00:19:13,027 Speaker 3: coming back and forward. You know, you're starting to work 380 00:19:13,107 --> 00:19:17,387 Speaker 3: with Clayton McMillan around eight or backs fifteen, you're starting 381 00:19:17,427 --> 00:19:20,187 Speaker 3: to share. So there's a lot of big picture stuff 382 00:19:20,947 --> 00:19:22,867 Speaker 3: that comes along with it. And I love it. I 383 00:19:23,067 --> 00:19:27,547 Speaker 3: I really enjoy it. I love forecasting being ahead, not 384 00:19:27,827 --> 00:19:32,667 Speaker 3: just like I said, from now until the end of 385 00:19:32,667 --> 00:19:32,947 Speaker 3: the year. 386 00:19:33,987 --> 00:19:36,547 Speaker 2: Our guest at the New Zealand Campus Innovation and Sport, 387 00:19:36,627 --> 00:19:38,387 Speaker 2: of course, is one thirty on news talks there, but 388 00:19:38,427 --> 00:19:40,827 Speaker 2: you got another fifteen minutes or so with Scott Robertson here. 389 00:19:40,907 --> 00:19:43,147 Speaker 2: Let's go to the phones and get some questions from 390 00:19:43,147 --> 00:19:46,667 Speaker 2: our audience. Stuart, your question for us, Scott Robertson. 391 00:19:47,667 --> 00:19:50,347 Speaker 8: Oh, thanks, thanks gentlemen for the opportunity. 392 00:19:51,227 --> 00:19:51,507 Speaker 7: Coach. 393 00:19:52,667 --> 00:19:54,627 Speaker 8: I know it's not a good thing to jump ahead 394 00:19:54,747 --> 00:20:00,227 Speaker 8: to future test matches. I'm just thinking about the Rugby 395 00:20:00,347 --> 00:20:04,147 Speaker 8: Championship and the two test matches coming up in South Africa. 396 00:20:06,667 --> 00:20:13,307 Speaker 8: I noted that the South Africans employed a situation where 397 00:20:13,347 --> 00:20:17,707 Speaker 8: they had eight forwards in the reserves. I think they 398 00:20:17,827 --> 00:20:19,307 Speaker 8: called it like an eight mill split. 399 00:20:20,947 --> 00:20:22,187 Speaker 6: And it occurs to me that you. 400 00:20:22,227 --> 00:20:26,307 Speaker 8: Could almost a big forward, you could almost have two 401 00:20:26,427 --> 00:20:30,667 Speaker 8: lots of forwards in an eighteen minute test match. I 402 00:20:30,787 --> 00:20:33,827 Speaker 8: know it the gamble, but do you do you fear 403 00:20:33,907 --> 00:20:36,987 Speaker 8: something like that or do you see some merit in 404 00:20:37,107 --> 00:20:39,187 Speaker 8: an eight mil split? 405 00:20:39,307 --> 00:20:43,707 Speaker 3: Sir, good question, Thanks Stuart, thanks for calling. And it's 406 00:20:44,947 --> 00:20:48,507 Speaker 3: an eight. I'm not sure about eight. Sometimes it's seven, 407 00:20:49,867 --> 00:20:53,627 Speaker 3: seven one or sixty split. But this a whole four 408 00:20:53,707 --> 00:20:58,827 Speaker 3: packed Jason one wants next? Would you say this? He'll 409 00:20:58,827 --> 00:21:01,947 Speaker 3: probably employ it. But look, I think especially in South Africa, 410 00:21:01,987 --> 00:21:05,707 Speaker 3: that's this is strength. You know, they've the impact that 411 00:21:05,787 --> 00:21:09,187 Speaker 3: they can bring on personally. If he lose it back early, 412 00:21:09,347 --> 00:21:10,987 Speaker 3: it makes things a little bit difficult. You're going to 413 00:21:11,067 --> 00:21:15,947 Speaker 3: lose wood on the wing potentially. But I look, let's 414 00:21:15,987 --> 00:21:18,227 Speaker 3: just talk about the trip to South Africa. It's a 415 00:21:20,307 --> 00:21:23,667 Speaker 3: hell of an opportunity and a hell of a test 416 00:21:23,707 --> 00:21:25,947 Speaker 3: for us to go to Joe get down the Cape down. 417 00:21:26,467 --> 00:21:29,827 Speaker 3: Men the Cape down for seven eight years like us 418 00:21:29,867 --> 00:21:32,587 Speaker 3: playing down there, so to open that up, and you know, 419 00:21:33,067 --> 00:21:35,707 Speaker 3: lot of Kiwis are coming over because it's special. You know, 420 00:21:35,787 --> 00:21:38,427 Speaker 3: that's the special part. Those are getting up in the 421 00:21:38,427 --> 00:21:40,147 Speaker 3: middle of the night memories, aren't they from a young 422 00:21:40,267 --> 00:21:45,467 Speaker 3: kid to watch them great heroes of ourselves all be 423 00:21:45,667 --> 00:21:49,227 Speaker 3: still come from behind, big long drop kicks. We've had 424 00:21:49,267 --> 00:21:50,987 Speaker 3: everything over there, so it's going to be a special 425 00:21:51,027 --> 00:21:51,747 Speaker 3: couple of weeks for us. 426 00:21:51,867 --> 00:21:54,427 Speaker 2: Yeah, brilliant, Thank you, Stuar. I appreciate it. You've got 427 00:21:54,427 --> 00:21:57,227 Speaker 2: a question for Scott Robertson about his name I think 428 00:21:57,587 --> 00:21:58,227 Speaker 2: or his nickname. 429 00:21:58,347 --> 00:22:01,707 Speaker 4: Yes I have, but before I start, could I please 430 00:22:02,307 --> 00:22:07,067 Speaker 4: just congratulate Scott on his lovely doccer on TV at 431 00:22:07,107 --> 00:22:11,587 Speaker 4: the moment called Razor, and I've been watching it. I 432 00:22:11,667 --> 00:22:16,707 Speaker 4: think his next career might be in TV just before 433 00:22:16,787 --> 00:22:20,867 Speaker 4: I start. Ninety four years of age, and I've been 434 00:22:20,947 --> 00:22:25,067 Speaker 4: watching the Canterbury team ever since well I can't remember 435 00:22:25,187 --> 00:22:28,667 Speaker 4: when Roby Dines was playing full back, then on etc. 436 00:22:29,467 --> 00:22:33,107 Speaker 4: But I've always followed the Crusaders. Absolutely love him and 437 00:22:33,787 --> 00:22:37,307 Speaker 4: congratulations when you had them, and I hope you're as 438 00:22:37,387 --> 00:22:41,107 Speaker 4: successful as the All Blacks. Now, the question I was 439 00:22:41,187 --> 00:22:44,787 Speaker 4: going to ask you is how you got the name Razor? 440 00:22:45,387 --> 00:22:49,067 Speaker 4: And the other one is do you get annoy the 441 00:22:49,107 --> 00:22:51,787 Speaker 4: amount of people and they're so called in the media 442 00:22:51,907 --> 00:22:54,307 Speaker 4: as well, you keep calling you Robinson. 443 00:22:56,707 --> 00:23:08,387 Speaker 3: You're right on. Yeah, look doc here was done a 444 00:23:08,427 --> 00:23:11,187 Speaker 3: while back, and I think people appreciate off. I actually 445 00:23:11,227 --> 00:23:13,347 Speaker 3: can't watch I can't watch myself do that sort of stuff. 446 00:23:13,387 --> 00:23:17,347 Speaker 3: So I'm glad people enjoying, so thank you. And I 447 00:23:17,427 --> 00:23:23,467 Speaker 3: looked the nickname. Well, it's a long story. Somebody else 448 00:23:23,507 --> 00:23:25,187 Speaker 3: gave me another nickname which I didn't like, so I 449 00:23:25,347 --> 00:23:30,507 Speaker 3: gave myself my one, which is stuck. Fortunately, And what 450 00:23:30,707 --> 00:23:37,947 Speaker 3: happened was we had a guy David Knox and pet 451 00:23:38,507 --> 00:23:40,867 Speaker 3: pet Howard did have won to cut for the Brumbies. 452 00:23:41,067 --> 00:23:43,907 Speaker 3: It was nineteen ninety six. The Crusaders were playing at 453 00:23:43,987 --> 00:23:46,707 Speaker 3: Linkage the Park then and I threw my shoulder and 454 00:23:46,747 --> 00:23:48,467 Speaker 3: cut him and half like it was a good tackle. 455 00:23:48,587 --> 00:23:48,827 Speaker 8: It was. 456 00:23:49,067 --> 00:23:50,707 Speaker 3: It was a brilliant Pierson and I got off and 457 00:23:50,867 --> 00:23:52,387 Speaker 3: just the shoulder off and one of the boys said 458 00:23:52,427 --> 00:23:55,747 Speaker 3: what are you doing And I said, oh, you know, 459 00:23:55,947 --> 00:23:57,987 Speaker 3: just dusting off the blade and it's what do you mean? 460 00:23:58,707 --> 00:24:00,347 Speaker 3: And I said, oh, you know, they'll razor bow cut 461 00:24:00,427 --> 00:24:03,307 Speaker 3: him and half and through a little bit of branding, 462 00:24:03,387 --> 00:24:05,747 Speaker 3: a lot of lot, you know, a bit of a 463 00:24:06,587 --> 00:24:09,227 Speaker 3: a dad's stuck. So there's the story. 464 00:24:09,667 --> 00:24:12,187 Speaker 2: I love it. Thank you Fai for your for your 465 00:24:12,547 --> 00:24:15,827 Speaker 2: call and your lovely words as well. Let's go to Pete. Pete, 466 00:24:15,867 --> 00:24:17,667 Speaker 2: what's your question for for your Blacks coach. 467 00:24:20,627 --> 00:24:23,227 Speaker 6: I was just wondering what he sees as a makeup 468 00:24:23,427 --> 00:24:27,027 Speaker 6: for the half back first five combination with Cortius Radama 469 00:24:27,147 --> 00:24:32,147 Speaker 6: and d Neck or does he see body at fallback or. 470 00:24:32,227 --> 00:24:35,707 Speaker 7: Stephen going to start there? But the makeup there I 471 00:24:35,867 --> 00:24:40,107 Speaker 7: think is really peis played together during the during the 472 00:24:40,187 --> 00:24:43,187 Speaker 7: season and they know each other really well, and I 473 00:24:43,267 --> 00:24:46,107 Speaker 7: think d mack will just keep him calm while he 474 00:24:46,267 --> 00:24:48,067 Speaker 7: is here. If he does, he just can't not to 475 00:24:48,187 --> 00:24:51,547 Speaker 7: say that Finlay's sin is great. But are you looking 476 00:24:51,587 --> 00:24:54,587 Speaker 7: at combinations here or is it going to be something 477 00:24:54,627 --> 00:24:56,707 Speaker 7: else depending on the makeup of the English. 478 00:24:56,467 --> 00:24:59,227 Speaker 3: Team you thinks Pete, Can I ask you a question 479 00:24:59,347 --> 00:25:00,267 Speaker 3: you from? Was he from? 480 00:25:02,147 --> 00:25:02,187 Speaker 8: No? 481 00:25:02,547 --> 00:25:02,587 Speaker 5: Not? 482 00:25:02,747 --> 00:25:03,107 Speaker 7: Actually? 483 00:25:03,627 --> 00:25:08,827 Speaker 3: Okay, whatever way you go. Everyone's a select there the whole. 484 00:25:09,547 --> 00:25:12,787 Speaker 3: But yeah, a good question. Obviously Tuesday will definitely find out. 485 00:25:12,867 --> 00:25:14,587 Speaker 3: But you do look at combinations and someone like a 486 00:25:14,667 --> 00:25:20,347 Speaker 3: court Latima, who's wants to Taku Balow. He's a competity, 487 00:25:20,467 --> 00:25:23,867 Speaker 3: works so hard off the ball, is inside running, he's 488 00:25:23,907 --> 00:25:28,227 Speaker 3: graded his craft looks scridhends and you know he's been 489 00:25:28,267 --> 00:25:32,267 Speaker 3: working with you know him from Afar all the half 490 00:25:32,347 --> 00:25:35,187 Speaker 3: back to around New Zealand and like he's really really 491 00:25:35,227 --> 00:25:39,507 Speaker 3: impressed in that combination with d mac as important. Look, 492 00:25:39,587 --> 00:25:42,507 Speaker 3: I think parent Arra is playing some for they at 493 00:25:42,547 --> 00:25:44,467 Speaker 3: the moment come back off at injury like that at 494 00:25:44,507 --> 00:25:48,507 Speaker 3: that highest level. Just put some perspective what an athlete 495 00:25:48,547 --> 00:25:51,187 Speaker 3: in the person he is. So look, we've got some 496 00:25:51,267 --> 00:25:54,667 Speaker 3: choices to make there and we'll see a Tuesday with 497 00:25:54,747 --> 00:25:55,947 Speaker 3: a it's the selection. 498 00:25:56,107 --> 00:25:59,747 Speaker 2: Pete good man, Pete, thanks for your question. Let's move on. David. 499 00:25:59,787 --> 00:26:01,027 Speaker 2: You've got a question for the raiser. 500 00:26:01,947 --> 00:26:03,787 Speaker 6: Yeah, what's happened to the drop check? 501 00:26:05,787 --> 00:26:08,267 Speaker 2: What does have into the drop kick? David wants to know, Razor. 502 00:26:09,427 --> 00:26:15,827 Speaker 3: Jeez, good question the drop kick? Are we going to 503 00:26:15,907 --> 00:26:17,947 Speaker 3: practice one in the next couple of days now after 504 00:26:17,987 --> 00:26:19,907 Speaker 3: you just mentioned that, Oh look there's a time and 505 00:26:19,947 --> 00:26:21,427 Speaker 3: place for it. Obviously England had been good at it. 506 00:26:21,427 --> 00:26:22,907 Speaker 3: An't know the look they want to World Cup game 507 00:26:22,947 --> 00:26:24,787 Speaker 3: off the back of it. You've got to have it there, 508 00:26:24,787 --> 00:26:27,267 Speaker 3: You've got you've got to put it in your bank 509 00:26:28,147 --> 00:26:30,987 Speaker 3: and to make sure it's three points. It's it's just 510 00:26:31,547 --> 00:26:34,987 Speaker 3: like you do with the penalty. So look we've won, 511 00:26:35,107 --> 00:26:37,547 Speaker 3: we've won games on it before, so yep, it's on the. 512 00:26:37,587 --> 00:26:40,107 Speaker 2: List rest assured David the drop kick is there? Are 513 00:26:40,227 --> 00:26:41,587 Speaker 2: Tim your question for Razor? 514 00:26:43,187 --> 00:26:47,107 Speaker 8: Hey, I'm just wondering what was the reasoning behind only 515 00:26:47,227 --> 00:26:49,547 Speaker 8: picking three specialized locks? 516 00:26:51,347 --> 00:26:53,507 Speaker 3: Yeah? Good, I look with the squad of thirty two 517 00:26:54,387 --> 00:26:57,667 Speaker 3: and the simmer Penny female that can cover lock and 518 00:26:57,867 --> 00:27:01,747 Speaker 3: just the injuries. At that time, we felt that was 519 00:27:01,787 --> 00:27:04,587 Speaker 3: our best mix because we can bring an injury coovery, 520 00:27:04,667 --> 00:27:07,427 Speaker 3: brought a young guy in like like I saim Day, 521 00:27:07,507 --> 00:27:09,827 Speaker 3: so it gave herself fourth and that that was the 522 00:27:09,907 --> 00:27:12,827 Speaker 3: reason behind it. And also we've got some quality loose 523 00:27:12,907 --> 00:27:15,467 Speaker 3: Fords as well. So we've got the next one coming 524 00:27:15,547 --> 00:27:18,307 Speaker 3: through and it's three experienced second roles. 525 00:27:18,987 --> 00:27:22,467 Speaker 2: Let's go to h Tony. What's your question, Tony. 526 00:27:25,307 --> 00:27:27,747 Speaker 6: Scotty? What do you say to your team when they 527 00:27:27,787 --> 00:27:28,947 Speaker 6: don't follow instructions? 528 00:27:31,747 --> 00:27:33,467 Speaker 3: Who are you talking about here? Is this you said 529 00:27:33,467 --> 00:27:34,907 Speaker 3: you see someone else in the households? 530 00:27:35,107 --> 00:27:35,147 Speaker 5: No? 531 00:27:36,827 --> 00:27:38,627 Speaker 4: Maybe the blacks? 532 00:27:38,707 --> 00:27:43,907 Speaker 3: Yes, okay, we have to repect obviously if if you have, 533 00:27:44,067 --> 00:27:47,027 Speaker 3: if they're not, they're not delivering, it's either you you 534 00:27:47,067 --> 00:27:48,667 Speaker 3: look at yourself first. I think it's the first. But 535 00:27:48,747 --> 00:27:53,067 Speaker 3: how are you delivering the message? Why isn't it getting across? 536 00:27:53,747 --> 00:27:58,547 Speaker 3: And then probably the big thing is check for clarity 537 00:27:58,587 --> 00:28:03,027 Speaker 3: and understanding and if it doesn't, still keep working. Just 538 00:28:03,067 --> 00:28:04,307 Speaker 3: give them an opportunity somewhere else. 539 00:28:05,067 --> 00:28:07,587 Speaker 2: Thanks for call Tony. Let's go to Mark. What have 540 00:28:07,667 --> 00:28:11,187 Speaker 2: you got as a question? Mark? Good afternoon, our first all, 541 00:28:11,267 --> 00:28:15,827 Speaker 2: congratulations Raiser on your appointment, and congratulations for picking TJ. 542 00:28:18,107 --> 00:28:21,227 Speaker 8: Jason's already asked one of the questions for me, I'm 543 00:28:21,467 --> 00:28:26,067 Speaker 8: blue supporter, O what do Toskin really have to do 544 00:28:26,307 --> 00:28:27,987 Speaker 8: to get in? And the other one in a lesson 545 00:28:28,027 --> 00:28:30,027 Speaker 8: note maybe is Rick Telly? 546 00:28:32,347 --> 00:28:34,627 Speaker 2: All right? Hoskins A two till Ricky Rickattelly both missed 547 00:28:34,627 --> 00:28:36,467 Speaker 2: the cut this time? Do they are they in the 548 00:28:36,507 --> 00:28:37,067 Speaker 2: picture still? 549 00:28:37,467 --> 00:28:37,627 Speaker 8: Yeah? 550 00:28:37,747 --> 00:28:39,467 Speaker 3: Look Costin, because you know I had the conversation. I 551 00:28:39,547 --> 00:28:41,147 Speaker 3: talked them through the year and I showed him what 552 00:28:41,387 --> 00:28:45,187 Speaker 3: was required so you need could talk about individual conversations 553 00:28:46,387 --> 00:28:48,707 Speaker 3: on the radio. But so he knows. Of course he's 554 00:28:48,707 --> 00:28:53,187 Speaker 3: an opportunity to get back. And I mentioned a lot 555 00:28:53,307 --> 00:28:58,107 Speaker 3: before around the areas the what areas in Rickitelly? Yeah, 556 00:28:58,107 --> 00:29:02,387 Speaker 3: look he was, he was in the conversation. Looked at 557 00:29:02,427 --> 00:29:04,987 Speaker 3: him closely. Look our coach them through twenties nine personally 558 00:29:05,027 --> 00:29:09,867 Speaker 3: and which you just believe these three hockeys are the 559 00:29:09,907 --> 00:29:10,787 Speaker 3: beast for us moving forward. 560 00:29:10,867 --> 00:29:14,347 Speaker 2: All right, and one final question on the phones another Mark, 561 00:29:14,547 --> 00:29:15,187 Speaker 2: Hi Mark. 562 00:29:16,147 --> 00:29:19,387 Speaker 6: Hey fin Raiser. Yeah, just a general question. 563 00:29:19,547 --> 00:29:22,307 Speaker 4: What is what does success got like at the end 564 00:29:22,347 --> 00:29:24,147 Speaker 4: of raisers reign as all black coat? 565 00:29:24,987 --> 00:29:31,947 Speaker 3: Oh cured. It's a good job interview, good question. Success 566 00:29:31,987 --> 00:29:38,107 Speaker 3: looks like we've we've got a team that can adapt 567 00:29:40,147 --> 00:29:42,947 Speaker 3: and when the test met in front of them. Great 568 00:29:43,027 --> 00:29:46,507 Speaker 3: depth in their squad, so guys can come in and 569 00:29:46,667 --> 00:29:52,707 Speaker 3: out and play different positions as we travel around the world. 570 00:29:52,827 --> 00:29:54,187 Speaker 3: That's what success looks like for us. 571 00:29:54,827 --> 00:29:57,067 Speaker 2: Good on your Mark, Thanks for your question, Thanks for 572 00:29:57,067 --> 00:29:58,707 Speaker 2: all your questions. I've got a couple more before we 573 00:29:58,787 --> 00:30:01,027 Speaker 2: knock it on the head. You've got other places to 574 00:30:01,067 --> 00:30:03,587 Speaker 2: be Raiser, keep spin and camp. I saw a photo 575 00:30:03,627 --> 00:30:05,987 Speaker 2: of Paul Williams and Paul Williams as well, So what's 576 00:30:06,027 --> 00:30:07,867 Speaker 2: the energy or the rationale behind that? 577 00:30:08,067 --> 00:30:11,987 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's great. It's important. Like they adjudicate the game, 578 00:30:12,027 --> 00:30:14,027 Speaker 3: don't they. So you need to be connected. You understand 579 00:30:14,107 --> 00:30:17,467 Speaker 3: what the rulings are, the interpretation because we've got laws, 580 00:30:17,587 --> 00:30:21,547 Speaker 3: as they call it, interpretation of laws, and the some 581 00:30:21,667 --> 00:30:23,747 Speaker 3: time can be frustrating for people and for us, So 582 00:30:23,827 --> 00:30:25,987 Speaker 3: we're trying to make as clear as possible as we 583 00:30:26,067 --> 00:30:30,347 Speaker 3: possibly can. They give us, keep us consistently updated. Look 584 00:30:30,387 --> 00:30:32,107 Speaker 3: at the ref that we've got in front of them. 585 00:30:32,627 --> 00:30:36,867 Speaker 3: What is his personality? How does he ref? And he 586 00:30:36,947 --> 00:30:39,147 Speaker 3: gets on field with us, you know, du Kates, we 587 00:30:39,227 --> 00:30:41,667 Speaker 3: have some tough training, you know, physical training, so he 588 00:30:41,747 --> 00:30:43,027 Speaker 3: gets a whistle in his hand as well. 589 00:30:43,667 --> 00:30:46,867 Speaker 2: How much scrutiny do you expect in. 590 00:30:46,987 --> 00:30:47,547 Speaker 5: This role. 591 00:30:50,107 --> 00:30:52,547 Speaker 3: As much as any other we'll Black coach. 592 00:30:53,707 --> 00:30:56,507 Speaker 2: Compared compared to the scrutiny you receive this Crusaders coach. 593 00:30:57,907 --> 00:31:00,187 Speaker 2: How how elevated is it. 594 00:31:02,187 --> 00:31:06,307 Speaker 3: Obviously extremely elevated? You know the expectation is on men 595 00:31:06,627 --> 00:31:10,907 Speaker 3: mentioned before as high the responsibility of the role. It's 596 00:31:10,947 --> 00:31:14,747 Speaker 3: something I've prepared myself as for the last eleven years 597 00:31:14,787 --> 00:31:19,427 Speaker 3: as a head coach. You know, I've set myself up 598 00:31:19,547 --> 00:31:21,627 Speaker 3: like a player. Does you know you spend trying to 599 00:31:21,667 --> 00:31:25,987 Speaker 3: get as many experience as you can. You know, from 600 00:31:26,107 --> 00:31:31,147 Speaker 3: coaching my club side to my NBC side to super side. 601 00:31:31,587 --> 00:31:34,787 Speaker 3: It's naturally the progression and up and all those experiences 602 00:31:34,867 --> 00:31:36,867 Speaker 3: help you, you know, to deal with the scrutiny. The 603 00:31:36,947 --> 00:31:39,667 Speaker 3: biggest thing is I dont know who I am, who 604 00:31:39,747 --> 00:31:43,587 Speaker 3: I need around me, and then there's an element I'm 605 00:31:43,627 --> 00:31:45,467 Speaker 3: going to enjoy it, but I've got I've just got 606 00:31:45,507 --> 00:31:47,587 Speaker 3: to own it as well. Then that's the biggest thing. 607 00:31:48,107 --> 00:31:49,107 Speaker 3: If it works or doesn't. 608 00:31:49,867 --> 00:31:53,547 Speaker 2: Do you have a close in a circle of people 609 00:31:53,627 --> 00:31:56,147 Speaker 2: outside of rugby, yep, yep. 610 00:31:56,147 --> 00:31:58,307 Speaker 3: I've got two or three people that I talk as 611 00:31:58,427 --> 00:32:01,467 Speaker 3: mentors for the rugby side of it and one or 612 00:32:01,547 --> 00:32:03,027 Speaker 3: two on the outside of it. You know, what do 613 00:32:03,107 --> 00:32:06,267 Speaker 3: they see? How's the messaging? How am I coming up 614 00:32:06,467 --> 00:32:10,987 Speaker 3: ross too? You know on field, Like I was talking 615 00:32:11,027 --> 00:32:14,347 Speaker 3: about my own personalshapality, myself and then also just someone 616 00:32:14,427 --> 00:32:19,867 Speaker 3: to put a bit of perspective on life because you 617 00:32:19,947 --> 00:32:23,987 Speaker 3: know it's going to come in some capacity and it's 618 00:32:23,987 --> 00:32:25,787 Speaker 3: always good to talk. That's how I work. I need 619 00:32:25,827 --> 00:32:28,427 Speaker 3: to talk through it with somebody and it just clears 620 00:32:28,467 --> 00:32:29,467 Speaker 3: and head and. 621 00:32:30,947 --> 00:32:33,507 Speaker 2: In terms of the guidance you take. So there are 622 00:32:33,627 --> 00:32:36,587 Speaker 2: certain people who I mean, everyone's got an opinion, as 623 00:32:36,627 --> 00:32:36,787 Speaker 2: you know. 624 00:32:37,467 --> 00:32:39,387 Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's a beautiful thing. I think we need that, 625 00:32:39,707 --> 00:32:43,107 Speaker 3: Like you've got to embrace that. People like people you know, 626 00:32:43,267 --> 00:32:47,427 Speaker 3: selecting rictellies and they're selecting courts right awesome. When you 627 00:32:47,507 --> 00:32:49,387 Speaker 3: lose that, there's the essence of what New zero Rabi 628 00:32:49,507 --> 00:32:52,147 Speaker 3: is about. That's the DNA, the connection that people have 629 00:32:52,267 --> 00:32:55,867 Speaker 3: got an opinion, that connection to our beautiful black juicy 630 00:32:56,027 --> 00:32:58,107 Speaker 3: and that and that sits us on the wall stage. 631 00:32:58,267 --> 00:32:58,827 Speaker 2: You excited. 632 00:32:59,427 --> 00:33:00,947 Speaker 3: Yeah, like, I'm looking forward. 633 00:33:00,707 --> 00:33:01,027 Speaker 7: To it, like. 634 00:33:02,627 --> 00:33:05,587 Speaker 3: You know that the motions go your sort of I'm 635 00:33:05,627 --> 00:33:08,267 Speaker 3: really big focused. I'm getting the weak right so I 636 00:33:08,347 --> 00:33:11,227 Speaker 3: can enjoy that, so we can appear someone. A lot 637 00:33:11,267 --> 00:33:13,467 Speaker 3: of my focus goes on to the preparation, not so 638 00:33:13,587 --> 00:33:16,307 Speaker 3: much the outcome, and that's cloche cliche. And once I 639 00:33:16,387 --> 00:33:18,867 Speaker 3: get the process right, I can enjoy them much more. 640 00:33:18,947 --> 00:33:19,227 Speaker 5: All right. 641 00:33:19,347 --> 00:33:23,427 Speaker 2: Just to finish this facility? Yeah, how cool, ain't Yeah? 642 00:33:23,827 --> 00:33:30,227 Speaker 3: Look, Kevin and Malcolm, who who had the vision to 643 00:33:30,307 --> 00:33:32,427 Speaker 3: bring this alive? That's pretty incredible. A lot of people 644 00:33:32,507 --> 00:33:35,307 Speaker 3: have visions and putting into action and it's still growing. 645 00:33:35,827 --> 00:33:37,867 Speaker 3: You know, the huts driving out here, it's been much 646 00:33:37,947 --> 00:33:40,907 Speaker 3: time before out here, but it's at works. You know, 647 00:33:41,307 --> 00:33:46,387 Speaker 3: it's two minutes to everywhere. It feels like home. The food, 648 00:33:46,987 --> 00:33:51,907 Speaker 3: you know, the bedrooms, the green room and guess what 649 00:33:52,187 --> 00:33:54,827 Speaker 3: it was the greatest date everyone Wellington this morning. It 650 00:33:55,027 --> 00:33:57,187 Speaker 3: was bar me. It was like twenty degrees and then 651 00:33:57,227 --> 00:34:00,787 Speaker 3: it rained as we're walking off the fields, so perfect timing, all. 652 00:34:00,707 --> 00:34:03,987 Speaker 2: Right, messages for the fans. Finally missus for the fans. 653 00:34:04,147 --> 00:34:08,187 Speaker 3: Look yeah, I'll catch for everything as together we walk 654 00:34:08,867 --> 00:34:10,307 Speaker 3: and we want to do this together. We want to 655 00:34:10,307 --> 00:34:14,267 Speaker 3: bring everyone together in just like the opportunity of people 656 00:34:14,347 --> 00:34:19,507 Speaker 3: walked towards it, embraced the challenges ahead. That's will were 657 00:34:19,547 --> 00:34:21,507 Speaker 3: antisysted and that's what we'll do and we'll go and 658 00:34:21,627 --> 00:34:22,067 Speaker 3: have some fun. 659 00:34:22,347 --> 00:34:26,787 Speaker 2: Fantastic Rosa. Thanks for taking the time. It's been entertaining, instructional, educational, 660 00:34:26,867 --> 00:34:28,427 Speaker 2: and you've got somewhere else to be. Thanks for taking 661 00:34:28,427 --> 00:34:30,227 Speaker 2: the time to join us this afternon cheerse Briney. 662 00:34:30,267 --> 00:34:30,827 Speaker 3: Thanks you everyone. 663 00:34:30,947 --> 00:34:32,267 Speaker 2: Scott Robinson, all Black's coach. 664 00:34:32,307 --> 00:34:35,267 Speaker 1: Here on News Talks for more from Weekend Sport with 665 00:34:35,427 --> 00:34:38,827 Speaker 1: Jason Fine. Listen live to News Talks ed B weekends 666 00:34:38,867 --> 00:34:41,907 Speaker 1: from midday, or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio.