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Speaker 1: It turns out that we are the only country, as

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Speaker 1: far as we know, in the world where acne rates

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Speaker 1: are actually falling. Everywhere else they appear to be going up.

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Speaker 1: And to explain why, we have Louise Reiker from the

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Speaker 1: New Zealand Dermatological Society with us right now.

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Speaker 2: Ha, Louise, good morning here.

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Speaker 1: So can we put this down to just us having

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Speaker 1: a better lifestyle, cleaner food, getting outdoors, more or less pollution.

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Speaker 2: That kind of thing that would be very attractive, wouldn't

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Speaker 2: it that when you look at the details of the research,

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Speaker 2: they based it on the number of people who attended

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Speaker 2: health care appointments with respect to their acne. So then

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Speaker 2: you think, hmm, is it because people don't have as

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Speaker 2: much acney or they're not as bothered, they're not going

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Speaker 2: for as many appointments. Could it be that because New

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Speaker 2: Zealand actually is the head of the world in providing

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Speaker 2: access to the best medication for acne us a treasure

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Speaker 2: one that would be attractive because that would show that

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Speaker 2: having broader access to effective treatment for people really does

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Speaker 2: make a huge difference to healthcare workload but also more importantly,

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Speaker 2: to patient disease burden. But another explanation might be sadly,

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Speaker 2: because our workforce is so short that it's too hard

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Speaker 2: for people to get into appointments, and therefore you don't

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Speaker 2: get the numbers recorded about coming to a team to

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Speaker 2: an appointment. About that, yeah, possibly don't get an appointment.

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Speaker 1: Possibly we don't even want to pay for the appointments

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Speaker 1: because we're a bit broke at the moment. How do

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Speaker 1: we actually find out then, How do we know for

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Speaker 1: once and for all whether we're actually doing well or

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Speaker 1: not well?

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Speaker 2: We'd have to set up a complete new epidemiological study

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Speaker 2: to assess that.

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Speaker 1: Oh okay, so it's good job.

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Speaker 2: That's not the nature of the study that we've undertaken

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Speaker 2: are compared to.

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Speaker 3: Right across the world, Louise, while I've got you, did

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Speaker 3: you see this thing on social media the other day

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Speaker 3: where are recommending that people that they being social media

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Speaker 3: and dotters who recommend that people with acne go and

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Speaker 3: get a sunburn or sit in a tanning bed to

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Speaker 3: get rid of it.

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Speaker 2: No, I didn't see that. We do know you well,

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Speaker 2: you weren't going to start as getting a sunburn. We

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Speaker 2: do know that the sunlight is imminisuppressive and it will

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Speaker 2: help acne. But you can get the improvement without the

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Speaker 2: sunburn by putting on a non oily sunscreen before you

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Speaker 2: get out and get to that door. Exerit.

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Speaker 1: Oh okay, so at the heart of a bit of

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Speaker 1: sun is a good thing. Just too much sun not, Louise,

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Speaker 1: Thank you, appreciate it. Louise rikat New Zealand Dermatological Society.

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