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Speaker 2: B, why are you welcome today? Instant finds of your

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Speaker 2: next stuff in a shop, all stats around construction that

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Speaker 2: show the hammers are not swinging. I'm afraid got to

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Speaker 2: start up with a good idea in the medical field though.

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Speaker 2: Mark and Jinny Politics Wednesday after right Richard Arnold as

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Speaker 2: the Senate takes off the big beautiful bill. Steve Price

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Speaker 2: wripes up from Australia as well, asking US and thirty

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Speaker 2: seven power six welcome to the day. I mean it's

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Speaker 2: only Wednesday. In fact, it's only the start of Wednesday,

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Speaker 2: so let's be honest. We've only had two days of

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Speaker 2: news so far, and already two stories around power one.

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Speaker 2: Transpawer said, we need to find more revenues of power

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Speaker 2: generation and we need to do that quickly because until

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Speaker 2: all the promised transition stuff comes online, we're going to

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Speaker 2: be short of capacity. No kidding, they said, we have

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Speaker 2: a lot of promises on renewable, but the delivery isn't happening.

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Speaker 2: All that quickly, no kidding, And then two Genesis says

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Speaker 2: they're looking at what they call a fast start plant

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Speaker 2: at Huntley. Hasn't Huntley become quite the thing? Ah? A

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Speaker 2: while back, Huntley was the ugly girl friend of the

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Speaker 2: power generation family, Poor old, ugly fat Huntley. That was

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Speaker 2: when promises around wind and sun were flying and the

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Speaker 2: future was renewable and we could all save the planet.

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Speaker 2: What a gargantuan cock up that turned out to be. Now,

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Speaker 2: for at least the third winter in a row, the

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Speaker 2: industry's falling over itself to tell us what's not right,

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Speaker 2: what's not delivered, and drumming up new ideas that did

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Speaker 2: I suggest should have been drummed up a long time ago.

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Speaker 2: As regards Huntley, gas and coll the coal pile, by

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Speaker 2: the way, has never been larger. But gas and coal

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Speaker 2: takes twelve hours to get going in short fast starts.

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Speaker 2: Is what it does? You turn it on like a light.

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Speaker 2: Could I ask why is it now they're dreaming up

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Speaker 2: these ideas? Can I ask why is it now that

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Speaker 2: all the power companies are cooperating around Huntley to keep

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Speaker 2: it going for years and years to come? Why is

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Speaker 2: it we wait until we are broken to actually find

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Speaker 2: a few solutions. Wenjesinda made that captain's call to kill

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Speaker 2: the gas industry. Why did no one in the power

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Speaker 2: industry go, hold on, We're not ready. Why are so

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Speaker 2: few proactive? Why is so little preventative planning done? Why

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Speaker 2: do we have winters of ankst around rainfall and business

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Speaker 2: cutting production and method excelling their power to others. Why

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Speaker 2: is it we wait until we don't have anything left

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Speaker 2: to think about what to do about getting it back?

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Speaker 2: New Zealand k Very nineteen eighty six.

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Speaker 1: News of the World In ninety seconds, I.

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Speaker 2: Was definably beautiful. Bill's journey passed. The Senate needed a

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Speaker 2: casting vote from JD and as soon as that happened

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Speaker 2: to irony of irony turned out to be midday. So

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Speaker 2: this is what they do at midday.

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Speaker 3: Help them to walk with forgiveness, so that they will

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Speaker 3: forgive as they desire to be forgiven.

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Speaker 2: Yes, they prayed while it was all going on. Trump

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Speaker 2: was in Florida.

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Speaker 4: Have taken what's that they're taken in now?

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Speaker 5: I don't think they taken for gut.

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Speaker 6: It's the greatest tax cut in the history of our country.

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Speaker 7: And if it doesn't best it's the biggest tax increase.

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Speaker 6: In the history of our countries, that alone, sixty eight

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Speaker 2: Massive Next stop back to the House, where it's going

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Speaker 2: to get really interesting. Given not all Republicans are on board.

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Speaker 8: They are massively watering down what we did to deliver

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Speaker 8: for the President on the Green new scam. This is

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Speaker 8: the Senate doing swamp things. This is the Senate listening

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Speaker 2: The into Britain with the believed labor government are still

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Speaker 2: trying to do twist arms on welfare reform.

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Speaker 9: This government must not and will not duck the big

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Speaker 10: This country because the people we are in politics to

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Speaker 9: So much better than this.

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Speaker 2: Obviously, the Tories not into it.

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Speaker 1: Unless this House acts, they will bankrupt our children.

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Speaker 11: They will bury the next generation under a mountain of

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Speaker 2: But the real issue is neither of some of the

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Speaker 2: fellow labor rights.

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Speaker 9: These the Kensian cuts, belong to a different era and

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Speaker 9: different party. They're far from what this Labor party is

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Speaker 2: That is News of the World in ninety boat, by

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Speaker 2: the way, is literally unfolding in front of our eyes

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Speaker 2: and the commons. So when we get the numbers, I'm

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Speaker 2: assuming it will pass. But we get the numbers, will

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Speaker 2: pass them on to other news. This morning, Jerome Powers

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Speaker 2: what we already knew, that the FED would have cut

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Speaker 2: by now if it were not for the tariffs. In effect,

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Speaker 2: we went on hold when we saw the size of

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Speaker 2: the tariffs, and essentially all inflation forecasts with the United

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Speaker 5: It'd be.

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Speaker 2: The kex and I referred to yesterday. This is the

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Speaker 2: Chinese manufacturing that went up, which is sort of ironic

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Speaker 2: Fourteen passing from jam My Wealth Andrew Keller her good morning,

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Speaker 2: very good morning, Mike. So three negative, let's make it

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Speaker 2: four negative. So what's happened to here?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, this isn't good.

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Speaker 12: Actually, it's not a good morning from the point of

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Speaker 12: view of dairy prices. Now I do a cavit all

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Speaker 12: But the price INDITX has fallen four point one percent.

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Speaker 12: A row, but they were relatively small declines you knowero

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Speaker 12: a little more notable. Butterfell four point three percent and

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Speaker 12: a chunky move. So whole milk powder average prices have

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Speaker 12: January now that peaked in early May. Those average prices

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Speaker 12: Last night that average price was three thy eight hundred

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Speaker 12: That's material, and I sort of it brought my mind

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Speaker 5: So but Mike, let's not panic.

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Speaker 12: But I do think this industry is going to make

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Speaker 12: This result is going to make the industries set up

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Speaker 12: stay bright. And I think that there'll be a there'll

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Speaker 12: be a hint of concern.

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Speaker 2: Here, Yes, there will be, and there's a hint of

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Speaker 2: concern presumably in this business outlook as we wait, wait, wait,

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Speaker 12: Yeah, absolutely right, Mike, that is just that's the thing.

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Speaker 12: We're just waiting, waiting, waiting for the effects of lower

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Speaker 12: We are standy, it's the crunch now. So soon after

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Speaker 12: that sort of sobering, blowy dairy trade outlook. So yesterday morning, Mike,

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Speaker 12: Institute of Economic Research. It's the quarterly survey of business Opinion.

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Speaker 12: So it's corterly, it's a broader time frame. This is

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Speaker 12: certainly one that does inform people. The Arbyen said, amongst them,

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Speaker 12: but it's taking a long time to realize. Very similar

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Speaker 5: In other words, we think it's going to get better.

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Speaker 12: It's just not happening for the For the quarter, a

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Speaker 12: three percent of firms reported reduced activity in their own business,

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Speaker 12: so it's falling away. Building sector was the least upbeat,

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Speaker 12: just three percent expect business to improve in coming months.

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Speaker 5: That was six percent last quarter.

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Speaker 12: And Mike I just you got to sometimes try and

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Speaker 12: pick the positives out of these things. You've got to

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Speaker 12: salute the resilience of the retail sector, the spirit, the

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Speaker 12: retail sector is the most optimistic sector.

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Speaker 5: But I just wonder micause that.

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Speaker 12: Just can't get any worse, so you're naturally going to

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Speaker 12: think that it's getting better. The ARB said they'll be

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Speaker 12: And to cut to the Chase, I don't think there's

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Speaker 12: much evidence of inflation pressures in this survey at all.

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Speaker 12: That's a bit of a surprise, is no, because we

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Speaker 12: know that we're looking at the CPI possibly going up

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Speaker 12: to around three percent between now, Chris, you can't really

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Speaker 12: see much evidence that the survey, But I don't think

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Speaker 12: there's enough in there to change the consensus view that

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Speaker 12: the RBN said will hold the official cash rate and

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Speaker 12: they won't do anything next week.

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Speaker 2: And and that is a whole other conversation from over right.

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Speaker 2: What are the numbers?

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Speaker 12: So a bit of divergence in the US markets, actually,

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Speaker 12: because the Dow Jones is up four hundred and eleven

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Speaker 12: pointszer point ninety three percent forty five hundred and seven,

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Speaker 5: Seven eight five. The nick fell one point two.

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Speaker 2: Mike, the power industry did tell just send it what

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Speaker 11: There's a soap opera three hundred and sixty five days

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Speaker 11: We were gambling my family's whole fortune. So I had

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Speaker 11: Hell so the game is heavy.

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Speaker 2: as well as Carl, very good morning to you, Yes,

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Speaker 2: good morning mine. Is this all over the place? Domestic

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Speaker 10: It's normally three or four months behind. So what we

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Speaker 4: Across our merchants.

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Speaker 10: Now that's made up off the guys you know building

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Speaker 10: They're cy staring to open up their wallets and spend

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Speaker 10: The vibe of the sector is getting better. People more positive.

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Speaker 10: Well, don't get me wrong, it's still very tough out there.

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Speaker 2: Fantastic Well done, cal congratulations for coming on the program,

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Speaker 2: Jimmy Swaggett remember the name. He's died age ninety. He

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Speaker 2: We've been on a very good morning for you, Good

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Speaker 2: morning mind, JD required and we're back to the house.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 7: So that's the headline of what a process. This is

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Speaker 7: politics as usual as subnew combo of cronies and bribes

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Speaker 7: and threats. Trump a short time ago muscled his tax

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Speaker 7: bill through the Senate. He squeaked it. The vote was

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Speaker 7: party line, fifty to fifty. Then, as you indicate, Jade

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Speaker 7: Vans de Vice President came into cast a tiebreak and

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Speaker 7: push this along, so it now goes back to the

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Speaker 7: Lower House. No Democrat voted for the Trump measure, which

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Speaker 7: is expected to add, as we've noted, five point four

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Speaker 7: to five trillion dollars heal international dead on top of

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Speaker 7: the present fifty nine point two trillion dollar debt if

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Speaker 7: we're lock into place earlier Trump tax cuts, but most

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Speaker 7: of those tax benefits will go to the wealthiest as well.

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Speaker 7: There is two hundred and eighty seven billion dollars for

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Speaker 7: immigration enforcement. There was an alert today that ICE immigration

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Speaker 7: agents in Marks have been spotted in my own suburbs.

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Speaker 7: They're showing up at schools and restaurants and car washers

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Speaker 7: and strawberry fields where they were chasing workers the other

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Speaker 7: day across the farms. One man, a doctor who is

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Speaker 7: quoted today saying he has had to drive his own

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Speaker 7: kids to sports breakfasts because then nanny would not leave

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Speaker 7: the house. He says, quote, it's like Anne Frank or something,

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Speaker 7: referring of course, to the young Jewish girl who was

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Speaker 7: in hiding during World War II before being caught and

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Speaker 7: dying in Auschwitz. Anyway, the big lyticist from the Trump

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Speaker 7: bill are poor people who need food stamps money for food,

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Speaker 7: and poor people who need health care coverage Medicaid. Trump said,

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Speaker 7: re medicaid.

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Speaker 11: Here's what I want on Medicaid.

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Speaker 13: We're not touching anything.

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Speaker 7: Well, there was a lie. The bill's Medicaid restrictions are

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Speaker 7: expected to lead to the loss of healthcare coverage for

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Speaker 7: around eleven point eight million Americans over time. Republicans Josh

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Speaker 7: Hawley said he was really worried about healthcare in his

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Speaker 7: state of Missouri, then he voted for this thing anyway.

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Speaker 7: Republican Senator Tom Tillis, who's at wealth they notas said

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Speaker 7: to be around eighteen million dollars in New Zealand, so

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Speaker 7: his food supply and health insurance are probably going to

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Speaker 7: be okay. Tilli said he would not vote for the bill.

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Speaker 15: Why do I tell six hundred and sixty three thousand

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Speaker 15: people and two years or three years when President Trump

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Speaker 15: breaks his promise by pushing them off of medication?

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Speaker 7: So Trump said if Tilla supposed him, he Trump would

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Speaker 7: back someone else to replace him in the Senate.

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Speaker 2: Take that well.

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Speaker 7: Tillis then said he wasn't going to run for reelection anyway.

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Speaker 7: So you take that, mister president, shows again that the

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Speaker 7: only Congress people these days with any guts of those

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Speaker 7: with big savings accounts who can't stand the game anymore anyway.

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Speaker 7: So Trump could not afford to lose more than three votes.

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Speaker 7: He lost three, and on the fence was Alaska Senator

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Speaker 7: Lisa mccowski, and she was bought off. They kind to

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Speaker 7: deal with her late in the game. So food stamps

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Speaker 7: still will be available in Alaska, but not in most

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Speaker 7: other states without extensive paperwork requirements. So she's fine with

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Speaker 7: that cutout for her own. If the rest of the

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Speaker 7: country has a tougher time, so be it. Then there's

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Speaker 7: the return of Elon Musk. Yeah, haven't heard from him

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Speaker 7: for a few days. Welld's richest man says, if it's

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Speaker 7: the quote last thing he does on this earth, he

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Speaker 7: will put some of his megabucks into defeating any of

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Speaker 7: those who voted for the Trump Bill. Elon says he

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Speaker 7: also will form his own political party, the America Party,

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Speaker 7: But Trump says mask is only peeved because he doesn't

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Speaker 7: get cash for his electric vehicles under the bill, writes

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Speaker 7: the president, quote, Elon may get more subsidy than any

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Speaker 7: human being in history by far, and without subsidies, Elon

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Speaker 7: would probably have to close up shop and head back

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Speaker 7: home to South Africa. Trump continues quote no more rocket launchers,

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Speaker 7: satellites or electric car production. Perhaps, says the President, we

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Speaker 7: should have Doze, of course Elon's creation, to take a

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Speaker 7: good look at this. Then it all cahaps big Buddy

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Speaker 7: to be saved. So the bromance Mike seems to be

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Speaker 7: in trouble. Maybe a bit of couple's therapy needed.

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Speaker 2: This Idaho thing, is this a plea deal?

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Speaker 7: It is, and it's a plea bill that's not making

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Speaker 7: everybody happy, you know, including some of the family members

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Speaker 7: of the four students who were stabbed to death in

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Speaker 7: this stabbing rampage in Idaho. This is the case of

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Speaker 7: Brian Coberger, whose mass murder trial was about to begin soon,

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Speaker 7: but now it's all been said aside. Prosecutors have made

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Speaker 7: this agreement with a killer who has said he will

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Speaker 7: plead guilty to the murders in court tomorrow in order

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Speaker 7: to avoid the death penalty. That means execution off the table.

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Speaker 7: And also there will be no chance for the families

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Speaker 7: to find out details of what happened to their loved ones.

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Speaker 7: One of the victim's families that gone. Salva's family is

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Speaker 7: very unhappy with this arrangement and says they weren't even

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Speaker 7: told till this was actually announced.

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Speaker 10: They failed me, They failed my whole family.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 7: Then a member of that family is calling the prosecutor's

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Speaker 7: actions shocking and cruel. So there's a lot of anger

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Speaker 7: over what has been done in this case.

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Speaker 6: Mike.

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Speaker 7: Whatever people's opinions are about capital all.

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Speaker 2: Right, if I appreciate it very much. Out of the States.

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Speaker 2: By the way, Bob Villain telling you this time yesterday,

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Speaker 2: you know this is Glastonbury. They will look at canceling

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Speaker 2: their visas. They've done that, so Bob and his mate

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Speaker 2: won't be going to tour in America later on this view,

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Speaker 2: which is good. The other thing that's going on with

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Speaker 2: Trump at the moment is Paramount, which owns CBS. This

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Speaker 2: is the Karmela Harris did they edit it in a

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Speaker 2: weird way type argument? So Trump sued them, and the

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Speaker 2: problem for Paramount is they've got a merger a deal

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Speaker 2: they want to get signed up by Trump, so they're

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Speaker 2: very close. The news is they're on the verge of

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Speaker 2: a settlement. Part of the problem is they've got a meeting,

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Speaker 2: a board meeting, company meeting coming up at the end

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Speaker 2: of the week, and they're announcing new directors, and if

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Speaker 2: they don't cut a deal before the end of the week,

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Speaker 2: the new directors will have to get involved in the

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Speaker 2: lawsuit and they don't want to. So they're about to

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Speaker 2: cut a deal, which, of course is the problem with

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Speaker 2: the whole case is it was shown that CBS didn't

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Speaker 2: cut it up in any way untoward or unusual, and

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Speaker 2: this is really just a stitch up for Trump. So

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Speaker 2: someone's going to write a check, and Trump's going to

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Speaker 2: get the check, and they'll get their merger. And that's

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Speaker 2: how American politics works. Ten minutes away from seven before Don.

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Speaker 1: Mike Hosking breakfast with Bailey's real estate newstg zb.

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Speaker 2: Messa has done a deal with Netflix to stream rocket launches,

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Speaker 2: and I'm just wondering if we're reaching peak programming. See,

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Speaker 2: they've already got their own app So if you want

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Speaker 2: to watch a rocket go up, you can, and we'll

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Speaker 2: be able to watch it and have been able to.

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Speaker 2: The National Aeronautics and Space Act of nineteen fifty eight

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Speaker 2: calls on NASA to share their story of space exploration

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Speaker 2: with the broadest possible audience. There's no details on the

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Speaker 2: financial disclosure. SpaceX Alon's got eighty one launches in the

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Speaker 2: first half of this year, so it's not like there's

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Speaker 2: not a lot of rockets going up. But my question

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Speaker 2: from a programming point of view is, once you've seen

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Speaker 2: wonder Well, isn't one rocket all the rockets? Or are

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Speaker 2: you watching like the car racing are you watching for

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Speaker 2: a crash, You're watching for the explosion? So what's your

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Speaker 2: ratio on that give given? Generally, apart from elon stuff,

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Speaker 2: generally rockets go up and they're successful. So how many

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Speaker 2: launches do you want? Do you get disappointed on an

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Speaker 2: aborted or is that exciting? So when you get down

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Speaker 2: to sex and they go abort a boat and you go, oh,

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Speaker 2: that was cool. Or do you want it just to

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Speaker 2: go up and go up successfully or do you want

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Speaker 2: it to go up a little way and then blow up? Anyway,

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Speaker 2: that's your latest Netflix. You notice on Netflix lately there's

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Speaker 2: a lot of that foreign stuff with subtitles tremendous amounts,

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Speaker 2: So they've obviously gone to Bulgaria and bought a whole

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Speaker 2: lot of programs no one's ever seen before and whack

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Speaker 2: them on the suit.

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Speaker 16: I think I can recommend Eat and Nought, the Argentinian

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Speaker 16: dystopian sci fi.

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Speaker 2: Of course you can five minutes away from seven.

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Speaker 14: International Well, the ins and the outs.

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Speaker 1: It's the fizz with business fiber take your business productivity

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Speaker 1: to the next level.

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Speaker 2: Numbers one who pays tax in this country surveyed. This

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Speaker 2: is jam through June of the last year. To pay tax,

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Speaker 2: of course, you've got to make a profit. And the people,

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Speaker 2: the banks are the ones who pay all the tax.

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Speaker 2: Of course, they count for nearly one and six corporate

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Speaker 2: tax dollars, about two and a half billion. In total.

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Speaker 2: We got thirteen companies that pay more than one hundred

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Speaker 2: million dollars a year. Between them, they pay three point

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Speaker 2: us billion. That means thirteen companies account for about a

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Speaker 2: quarter of our entire corporate tax take in this country.

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Speaker 2: So the government thinking about cutting corporate tax rate. I

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Speaker 2: don't think they're going to do it anytime soon, but

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Speaker 2: let's say they do down to twenty five. Let it

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Speaker 2: take a quarter billion out so thirteen three one.

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Speaker 15: Now.

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Speaker 2: Cadi said to me the other day, I've got to

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Speaker 2: stop doing lists. She says lists are boring and ten

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Speaker 2: through one is boring. It's old fashioned radio. So now

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Speaker 2: I've got thirteen three one, So the thirteen three one

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Speaker 2: better than ten through one.

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Speaker 16: Well, just pick out some random numbers.

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Speaker 2: Just what she said. She said, mix it up and

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Speaker 2: make it, make it cool. But I've already done the banks.

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Speaker 2: So you want to hear the banks? Biggest bankers? And

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Speaker 2: said they pay eight hundred and seventy three million dollars.

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Speaker 2: Do you want to know what number eight is? She goes,

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Speaker 2: don't do number eight and then give a dumb comment.

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Speaker 16: Eight's a lucky number.

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Speaker 2: Eight a lucky number. She has this boring radio. So

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Speaker 2: eight is Fulton Hogan? Do you want to play a game?

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Speaker 2: I guess how much they play? Now we don't. Games

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Speaker 2: are done. Pecking numbers and playing games is done. That's

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Speaker 2: what Katie says. Where was I Fulton Hogan pay one

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Speaker 2: hundred and forty million? Your energy pay one hundred and fourteen?

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Speaker 2: What number of eight? Don't do lists? What number of day?

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Speaker 2: Then number ten? A lot of people play on it. Look,

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Speaker 2: I don't know what to do. Sam gives me the list.

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Speaker 2: Katie says, lists are dumbed. I's old fashion radio. I

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Speaker 2: want to be accused of doing old fashion radio. But

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Speaker 2: then again, Sam put all that time.

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Speaker 16: Man, you need a drink after this?

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Speaker 2: I know no exactly. Sam was late this morning because

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Speaker 2: his car doesn't work. Car's broken down. I've told him,

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Speaker 2: get in this and it'll never go. I'm sure enough,

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Speaker 2: get in this. What can I say? The business of

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Speaker 2: finding in the retail. That's been quite the week for

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Speaker 2: Paul Goldsmith. He's with us after seven point thirty, and

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Speaker 2: we'll say something like, boy, it's been quite a week,

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Speaker 2: hasn't it Paul, And he'll go, yes, it has anyway.

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Speaker 2: Rod Duke from Briscoes on this shortly for week.

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Speaker 1: The only report you need to start your day the

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Speaker 1: My Costume Breakfast with Bailey's real Estate altogether better across residential,

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Speaker 1: commercial and rural news dogs head been.

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Speaker 2: I think seven past seven. So big week on rules

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Speaker 2: and penalties around crime. The Justice Minister with the in

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Speaker 2: half an hour. But yesterday it was retail's turn. Infringement

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Speaker 2: notices five hundred bucks of stolen goods below five hundred

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Speaker 2: dollars over five hundred fines up to one thousand for

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Speaker 2: the big stuff over two thousand dollars you can go

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Speaker 2: to prison for up to seven years.

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Speaker 4: Now.

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Speaker 2: Rod Duke, of course, is the Briscos Group managing director

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Speaker 2: and is with us. Good morning, Good morning, Mike. Is

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Speaker 2: this theory or reality? Do you think it'll work, these

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Speaker 2: instant fines or not?

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Speaker 17: Well, I think it's a terrific start. Look, you've got

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Speaker 17: to start somewhere. There's a lot to come through in

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Speaker 17: the detail, and it does sound as though it's going

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Speaker 17: to take a year to coming to force, so we've

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Speaker 17: got a bit of waiting to do.

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Speaker 2: How will you implement it? Do you have you put

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Speaker 2: any thought into that? I mean literally, how will you

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Speaker 2: implement it?

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Speaker 4: Well, we've.

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Speaker 17: We've got cameras, we've got facial recognition probably coming through

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Speaker 17: to catch the more hardened of them. But I guess

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Speaker 17: that's in the detail. Even today, as you know, it's

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Speaker 17: pretty difficult to get the police on site when you

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Speaker 17: do run across, run across the thieves.

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Speaker 4: But look, we'll see.

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Speaker 17: I guess there'll be some some guidance for us.

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Speaker 2: The next part will be do you think they'll ever

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Speaker 2: pay the fine or is that not really your problem?

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Speaker 17: Well, it's probably not my problem, I think. Look, at

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Speaker 17: the end of the day, there will be embedded in

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Speaker 17: the legislation some consequence. Well I'm hoping there'll be some

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Speaker 17: consequence embedded in the legislation, but you know, as I've

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Speaker 17: been told, it's it's a year in the making. So

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Speaker 17: I guess we've just got to hold their breath and

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Speaker 17: see what happens.

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Speaker 2: Flip side of it. Do you think it's a deterrant?

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Speaker 2: I I am a thief. Do I think that a

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Speaker 2: thousand dollars are going to put me off?

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Speaker 17: Well, look at they probably will put some up, but

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Speaker 17: there's some pretty hardened thieves out there and Peel you,

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Speaker 17: you know, pretty experienced at this this thieving gig as well,

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Speaker 17: they'll put some off, but you might it might have

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Speaker 17: to just look at strength a little little downstream.

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Speaker 2: I guess, So what do you deal with in terms

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Speaker 2: of crime? I mean, how much does it cost you?

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Speaker 2: How often does it happen? And who are these people?

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Speaker 17: Look, I think it's reasonable to guess that it costs

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Speaker 17: some retailers somewhere between half a percent and one percent

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Speaker 17: of their revenue. So if we were in that boat

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Speaker 17: our revenue about eight hundred millions, it's probably going to

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Speaker 17: cost us about around about six to eight million dollars

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Speaker 17: a year. So that's the that's the that's the quantum model.

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Speaker 2: And is that every shop every day.

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Speaker 17: Now that's a total total stop. Yeah, it happens, it happens.

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Speaker 17: It happens pretty much every day. There's no there's no

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Speaker 17: set pattern to it. There's no set stores. There's gangs

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Speaker 17: that rove for the store to store to store. You know,

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Speaker 17: they just give us, they just take it in turns.

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Speaker 2: And how to staff handle it? And is that an

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Speaker 2: issue for stuff?

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Speaker 17: Well, look at a huge issue because look, at the

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Speaker 17: end of the day, you know, losing the money is

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Speaker 17: just catastrophic for us. But at the end of the day,

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Speaker 17: you know, staff injured, their abuse, they're threatened, and that's

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Speaker 17: probably the bigger issue that we think about. The staff

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Speaker 17: a under enormous pressure.

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Speaker 2: All right, Ron, appreciate it very much. Rob Duke, who's

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Speaker 2: with Brisco is obviously ten minutes past seven pass a

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Speaker 2: little bit of movement around our new fairies also to

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Speaker 2: report on this morning. Government and port operators have agreed

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Speaker 2: on the core infrastructure and the equipment needed now picked

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Speaker 2: and will have new warves and new link spans Wellington

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Speaker 2: will modify the existing infrastructure the last thirty years. Chris

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Speaker 2: McKenzie is the chair of the Ferry Holdings Limited and

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Speaker 2: as well as Chris morning to you.

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Speaker 18: Good morning.

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Speaker 2: Is this all looking good?

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Speaker 18: It's looking positive at this point in time. Yes, there

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Speaker 18: will be some robust discussions going forward between the ports

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Speaker 18: Key Rail and Ferry Holdings Limited, but this is a

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Speaker 18: reasonable sized infrastructure project, so it's to be expected.

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Speaker 2: Is there a big gap between what you want and

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Speaker 2: what you're getting?

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Speaker 18: No, No, What we are doing is the Cabinets mandated

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Speaker 18: us to get two fairies, two ports with appropriate nesting

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Speaker 18: structures and a rail operator who's running ferries in twenty

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Speaker 18: twenty nine. All of that comes together and hopefully it

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Speaker 18: will be an improvement on what we have at the moment.

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Speaker 2: And when you say hopefully, is that like fingers crossed?

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Speaker 2: Because from New zealand Inks point of view, how compromised

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Speaker 2: is this whole thing?

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Speaker 18: Do you think it isn't compromised?

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Speaker 4: And it's not.

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Speaker 18: We're not worried about it. What we have to just

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Speaker 18: think about is it's an infrastructure project and you know

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Speaker 18: New Zealand's reputation on infrastructure projects deliveries. We will have

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Speaker 18: everything put in place. The signing that we have done

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Speaker 18: with the ports and Qrail over the the last couple

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Speaker 18: of days has put us on a path to be

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Speaker 18: successfully completed. But there are always things that come up

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Speaker 18: in the infrastructure, but we touched would confidence that we

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Speaker 18: will deliver in twenty twenty nine. Two fairies, two ports

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Speaker 18: and a rail company that cannot break the fieries.

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Speaker 2: Can I argue with that? Chris, go well with it.

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Speaker 2: Appreciate it very much. Chris McKenzie, Cheer of Fairy Holdings.

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Speaker 2: If you weren't watching the news last night, the television news,

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Speaker 2: Peters was I picked, and my god, what a day

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Speaker 2: it was. It was everything you love about the Marlborough sounds,

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Speaker 2: just absolutely glorious. Thirteen past seven, tasky and this in

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Speaker 2: defense coming to the four. Poor old, poor old Sammy

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Speaker 2: was late this morning because there's mist and fell apart

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Speaker 2: three hundred and five K's mike on my Maxima going strong,

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Speaker 2: had it since new in two thousand and two, it

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Speaker 2: should be missing strap line headed new since two thousand

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Speaker 2: and two.

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Speaker 16: I mean to be fair, Sam's car didn't fall apart

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Speaker 16: the battery.

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Speaker 2: Right, I didn't say it fell apart, Yes, he just did.

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Speaker 2: Just then, Oh, did I Yeah, Oh okay, Mike buy

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Speaker 2: and listened to. That's my defense on everything. I didn't

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Speaker 2: say that, did I, While actually yes you did, Mike

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Speaker 2: Bayerniss and Tea, I own one never been off the

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Speaker 2: road for anything other than regular servicing, So there he

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Speaker 2: has probably being a bit harsh on the this and

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Speaker 2: now and then the Katie thing. Mica are likelists, but

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Speaker 2: I'm a bloke, so have three things on the list,

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Speaker 2: otherwise I might not be able to absorb it or

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Speaker 2: good point, Mike. I may be a bit left brain,

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Speaker 2: but I really like lists. I'm actually one of those

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Speaker 2: that really hate when the news saying this was the

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Speaker 2: second greatest without telling me what the number one was.

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Speaker 2: So I've got conflicting advice here this morning, I'm making

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Speaker 2: up random stuff and I've got conflicting advice, so I'll

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Speaker 2: try and tidy my act up. Shortly thirteen past seven.

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Speaker 1: The Mike Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered

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Speaker 1: by News Talks at.

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Speaker 2: B Politics Wednesday after Rate sixteen past seven to the

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Speaker 2: health sector where a key we startup, mid Selve, has

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Speaker 2: been going well in Australia. Their thing is re manufacturing

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Speaker 2: single use medical products, right now the good news here

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Speaker 2: as Farmax finally accepted their products onto our medical device list.

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Speaker 2: Now Oliver Hunt see mid Silvers with this. Oliver, very

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Speaker 2: good morning to you.

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Speaker 4: Morning Mike.

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Speaker 2: Has it been an arduous journey with Farmic, Yes.

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Speaker 19: We've had our challenges, but it's great to be on

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Speaker 19: the list finally after operating in New Zealand for coming

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Speaker 19: up on eight years.

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Speaker 2: What do you re manufacture?

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Speaker 19: Literally, so we take products like deban thrombosis prevention sleeves

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Speaker 19: that go around your legs after during surgery, cleaning them,

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Speaker 19: test them and then send them back to hospitals for

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Speaker 19: safe clinical reuse. And we can do that up to

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Speaker 19: fourteen times in New Zealand and at a significantly lower

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Speaker 19: price than the original products.

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Speaker 2: So what's been the problem in holding that up? When

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Speaker 2: you go to Farmac and go look what I can do?

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Speaker 2: When they say what, Well, Phemak.

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Speaker 19: Has gone about a process of contracting all of the

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Speaker 19: products in the health system and it's about two hundred

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Speaker 19: and forty thousand of those and they've done that category

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Speaker 19: by category and haven't reopened those contracts once they were

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Speaker 19: locked down. So for many of those contracts they were

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Speaker 19: locked down before we even existed, and we haven't been

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Speaker 19: any avenues through which we can enter that.

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Speaker 2: And so are you new in terms of this technology

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Speaker 2: to re manufacture. Therefore, this is going to revolutionize the

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Speaker 2: throwaway mentality in the health system and therefore the sooner

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Speaker 2: we get onto this the better. Or has this always

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Speaker 2: been available in you're just another version of what people

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Speaker 2: have been doing for ages.

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Speaker 19: We're very new in the global sense. It's been done

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Speaker 19: in America for a while, but we're really bringing it

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Speaker 19: to the rest of the world, into Australia and New Zealand.

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Speaker 2: Now how wide a product range can you do?

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Speaker 4: It's pretty substantial.

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Speaker 19: I mean, the label single use has been applied to

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Speaker 19: a huge number of products that were originally reusable or

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Speaker 19: in some form able to be used multiple times. So

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Speaker 19: it's an expanding impact field if you like.

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Speaker 2: There was the other thing to going to ask, so

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Speaker 2: there are more and more products of the technology is advancing, etc.

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Speaker 19: Yeah, absolutely, and it's going to get bigger and bigger

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Speaker 19: as you start to see more complicated devices coming out

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Speaker 19: and robots.

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Speaker 4: And things like that as well.

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Speaker 19: But you know, obviously you have to be able to

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Speaker 19: adopt it. But yeah, I mean that's one of the benefits.

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Speaker 19: But the other thing is, you know, we're a process

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Speaker 19: driven by people, and we've been able to create a

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Speaker 19: process that we employed people facing barriers to employment in

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Speaker 19: that which has a tremendous benefit from direct economic compect.

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Speaker 2: So you'll win, win.

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Speaker 19: When win when planner, sorry three wins.

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Speaker 2: You'll when when when.

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Speaker 4: Absolutely good on you. Well there's a lot of ones

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Speaker 4: to be had.

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Speaker 2: There so many ones. Well I had three at last count.

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Speaker 2: So how many millions we talk? We're talking millions, tens

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Speaker 2: of millions, hundreds of million dollars and potential savings.

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Speaker 19: Well, when I started out, I worked backwards from what

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Speaker 19: could be done in America and I came up with

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Speaker 19: a number of one hundred million dollars in New Zealand

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Speaker 19: with the products that we use. But we're a long

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Speaker 19: way away from America, so we're paying more for our

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Speaker 19: devices and that is a fact.

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Speaker 4: We're paying more than.

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Speaker 19: For our devices and Australia as well. So there's a

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Speaker 19: great opportunity there and if you can do it locally

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Speaker 19: and provide the jobs here, there's there's good benefits to

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Speaker 19: be had.

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Speaker 2: Great story, all well done, appreciate it very much and

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Speaker 2: glad glad Farmacs come to the party. All behund He's

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Speaker 2: the CEO of mid Self. He's he's in chargeable, win, win, win,

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Speaker 2: and win company. Mike, who show is it you want lists? Haveless?

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Speaker 2: Oh mate, Nate, that's my show. Steading on Mike four

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Speaker 2: hundred and twenty two thousand on the BT hold In

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Speaker 2: six Speed manual got rear ended the other day, written

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Speaker 2: off break my Heart. I'm going to come back to

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Speaker 2: one two seven in a moment for a new emailers, Hey,

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Speaker 2: get your ten to four hats out there, get them on,

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Speaker 2: every day. Pasky Now seven twenty four New developments. New

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Speaker 2: developments in the now infamous one to two seven of

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Speaker 2: the Education Training and Amendment Bill. Now Actors, it turns out,

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Speaker 2: tried to get the treaty clause taken out. National stopped it.

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Speaker 2: National has an argument. It's not a bad argument, but

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Speaker 2: it's nuanced. And the question is where the new want

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Speaker 2: argument in an age of rage and clickbait is wise.

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Speaker 2: National want the highest possible achievement for every student. Nothing

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Speaker 2: wrong with that. That is the quote unquote paramount objective

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Speaker 2: they are sending to all boards around the country travelers.

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Speaker 2: The treaty clause is still there, so the Prime Minister

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Speaker 2: as Education minister is stuck arguing two things. The two

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Speaker 2: things almost inevitably get lost in the fury of the debate.

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Speaker 2: Act say, if it was up to us, the clause

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Speaker 2: on the treaty would be gone. Keeps it simple, doesn't it? Now?

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Speaker 2: Part of the debate has to be around whether or

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Speaker 2: not a clause, a race based clause, is of interest

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Speaker 2: to you. It is possible that most of the country

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Speaker 2: doesn't follow this debate, doesn't care, and therefore it doesn't

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Speaker 2: damage National doesn't add to the reputation that there are

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Speaker 2: a lot of talk, no action, a lot of debates

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Speaker 2: these days, and one two seven may be one of

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Speaker 2: them are whipped up by pressure groups and spun into

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Speaker 2: a thing with an email type campaign. I can speak

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Speaker 2: from experience. A lot of people who forded emails to

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Speaker 2: me this time around. Clearly haven't read a word of

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Speaker 2: what they're objecting to. It's very broad brush anger at best.

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Speaker 2: Poor old Erica Stanford was busy on this program the

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Speaker 2: other day arguing that there are legitimate questions about the

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Speaker 2: treaty clauses. So that's why Paul Goldsmith is looking at it.

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Speaker 2: That's political code for we hope it'll go away. But

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Speaker 2: looking isn't doing, and that is to act's advantage. Of course,

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Speaker 2: what we do know, and this makes it worse, is

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Speaker 2: schools are obsessed with Mari issues. Schools do spend an

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Speaker 2: an ordinate amount of time on stuff that isn't reading, writing,

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Speaker 2: and adding. And because our schools produce kids who haven't

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Speaker 2: passed much or don't turn up at all, the charge

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Speaker 2: is easy to lay that if they spent less time

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Speaker 2: on the morification of the place, we might be better off.

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Speaker 2: So politics and race and schools, there's a heady old

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Speaker 2: mix for national In a world of simplistic clarity egged

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Speaker 2: on by emotion, there have a bob each way approach

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Speaker 2: looks increasingly to my mind like procrastination and excuses posky.

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Speaker 2: We'll ask got Paul Goldsmith about that shortly he's coming

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Speaker 2: on to talk about justice. But we'll will come in

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Speaker 2: from the side with a tricky one two seven question.

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Speaker 2: Morning Mike. Thank you for your Netflix referral Brassic What

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Speaker 2: great characters in comedy? Yeah, it's brilliant. One hundred. Glenn,

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Speaker 2: Glenn's got the Glenn's got his finger on the pulse

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Speaker 2: of New Zealand. No one reads Middle New Zealand like

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Speaker 2: Glenn with his recommendation earlier on of Eaton nought stray

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Speaker 2: and you laughed straight. I still still laughing out of Argentina, Mike.

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Speaker 2: What's the fascination with the cowboys? Go and support a

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Speaker 2: real team, be a cheese head, go the pack. Super

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Speaker 2: Bowl attendance a bucket list for you, Mike, It's one

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Speaker 2: of mine. No, I am slightly if I can be

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Speaker 2: honest with you, slightly Jelly of the business this weekend,

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Speaker 2: I won't bore you yet again with our shall we

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Speaker 2: go on holiday? Shall we not go somewhere on holiday

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Speaker 2: routine for July? And one of the places we're looking

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Speaker 2: at going is London. What's happening in London this weekend?

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Speaker 2: Ask yourself what's happening in London this weekend? The answer

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Speaker 2: is Silverstone, and the answer is f one. Now, if

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Speaker 2: there's one thing I would quite like to do, it's

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Speaker 2: go to n if one, not Melbourne. You anyone go

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Speaker 2: to Melbourne. Stone's the greatest track in the world and

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Speaker 2: to watch the race in a beautiful, hot English summer.

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Speaker 2: That's a bit of a bucket list for me. But

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Speaker 2: I'm not going so anyway.

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Speaker 5: That's thing to that story.

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Speaker 2: News is Next Zarnie.

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Speaker 1: New Zealand's voice of reason is Mike the Mic asking

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Speaker 1: breakfast with a Veda, Retirement, Communities, Life, Your Way, News

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Speaker 1: togs Head be.

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Speaker 2: Twenty three minutes away from Mate, So back toward's two

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Speaker 2: other Justice week new laws around assaulting first responders the

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Speaker 2: coward punctu will become a culpable homicide defense harsh of

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Speaker 2: hunishment for retail crime. Of course, weor Goldsmith is the

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Speaker 2: Justice Minister, and as well as very good morning to

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Speaker 2: you morning Mike Calay very well. Indeed, I don't know

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Speaker 2: whether to do this collectively or individually. Do you have

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Speaker 2: KPIs on this? What tangibly do you expect to happen

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Speaker 2: as a result of all the announcements you've made this week?

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Speaker 3: Well, our primary goal in the justice space is to

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Speaker 3: reduce the number of victims of crime, serious violent crime

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Speaker 3: in particular, And so that's the number one. That's what

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Speaker 3: folks used on the good newsers that we're making progress

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Speaker 3: on that. We set a target to drop from one

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Speaker 3: hundred and eighty five thousand New Zealanders being a victim

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Speaker 3: of serious crime to one hundred and sixty five by

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Speaker 3: twenty twenty nine. We're already down to one hundred and

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Speaker 3: fifty eight. That's still one hundred and fifty eight thousand

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Speaker 3: too many, and we're pushing hard. So all of it's

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Speaker 3: about sending a clear message that you know, the labor

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Speaker 3: approach of somebody else's fault for you creating crime, or

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Speaker 3: it's something in the past. No, no, we've got a

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Speaker 3: sheet home personal responsibility. Send a clear message there will

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Speaker 3: be consequences. And each of these are the ways is

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Speaker 3: a different way of saying that basic message.

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Speaker 2: How much of what you've announced is a deterrent as

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Speaker 2: opposed to something you will have to act upon. Do

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Speaker 2: you think, oh, well, it's both.

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Speaker 3: The extra tools that the high fines for assaulting first

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Speaker 3: responders is well, it's partly a deterrent, but it's also

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Speaker 3: signaling a very strong message from society that we won't

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Speaker 3: tolerate it in terms of retail crime. Look, I mean,

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Speaker 3: I don't think anybody would argue that what the current

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Speaker 3: situation is good enough with too many people just walking

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Speaker 3: out of shops, not paying for stuff, being escorted by

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Speaker 3: security guards to the car, and driving off.

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Speaker 2: So that's why we're giving We'll be.

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Speaker 3: Giving security guards and people the ability to hang on

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Speaker 3: to offenders until the police arrive. A whole bunch of things,

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Speaker 3: which is all designed to push back against this kind

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Speaker 3: of this weird idea that it's okay just walk out

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Speaker 3: without paying for stuff and everybody.

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Speaker 2: Else to find. Do you honestly expect a person who next, say,

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Speaker 2: side of beef and it doesn't be to pay a fine?

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Speaker 3: Well, I expect them to be given a fine if

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Speaker 3: it's appropriate at that time, when there's a police officer available,

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Speaker 3: or we can get somebody to view some footage, identify

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Speaker 3: the person and send a fine off. Yes, just as

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Speaker 3: it's sudden appropriate that people will pay a fine if

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Speaker 3: they're speeding down the road. Now, if you're saying, well,

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Speaker 3: some people don't pay their fines, that's true, and that's

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Speaker 3: another challenge that we've got in the justice here, which

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Speaker 3: we're very focused on being much more aggressive in collecting fines.

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Speaker 3: And I've given the very strong instructions to the Ministry

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Speaker 3: of Justice to be more aggressive, and they've already budgeted

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Speaker 3: for collecting.

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Speaker 2: A whole lot more fines and they will be part

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Speaker 2: of this week's announcement to the discounts and all that

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Speaker 2: sort of stuff in court. Are you comfortable with how

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Speaker 2: courts deal with what you're trying to do.

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Speaker 3: Well, Look, obviously, the first way for a Ministry of

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Speaker 3: Justice to get sackedor is to criticize the judiciary directly,

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Speaker 3: so I'm not going.

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Speaker 19: To do that.

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Speaker 3: But what I'd say is it's Parliament's job to send

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Speaker 3: the law and a clear message in the law, and

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Speaker 3: that's what we're doing with tougher sentences and restricting the

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Speaker 3: ability of judges to massively reduce sentences with all these discounts.

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Speaker 3: That's the signal we're sending. I mean, ultimately, we've got

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Speaker 3: other choices available to us. We could have mandatory sentence,

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Speaker 3: so we could have minimum sentences. There are other things

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Speaker 3: we can do. But I'm very confident that we're sending

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Speaker 3: a clear message.

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Speaker 2: A lot of people have texted us this week and said,

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Speaker 2: why don't you do minimum? Why don't you do minimum?

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Speaker 3: Well, look, look, we may well in the future. What

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Speaker 3: we've done in the past in New Zealand has always

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Speaker 3: been a maximum sentence with a discretion under that for

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Speaker 3: you know, to deal with all the many multitudinal, different

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Speaker 3: situations that judges are dealing with. So that's been our

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Speaker 3: approach and we're tightening that. But you know, the next

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Speaker 3: option if we don't feel like we're making progress and

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Speaker 3: the messages and getting through would be the alternatives.

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Speaker 2: We had Rod Duke on from Brisco's. He said, a

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Speaker 2: year away, it's a long way to wait, and also

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Speaker 2: you're probably going to have to ramp up some of

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Speaker 2: those fines and make it a little bit stiffer. Would

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Speaker 2: you agree with that assessment or not, Well.

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Speaker 3: Well, yeah, it goes off to Select money and people

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Speaker 3: will If people argue that we need to be more aggressive,

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Speaker 3: I'm happy to consider that in terms of it taking

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Speaker 3: a year look, it is important. Government's also been criticized

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Speaker 3: we're doing too much under urgency and so you know

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Speaker 3: the pattern of sending a bill into Parliament and going

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Speaker 3: off to Select Committee and having people from all around

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Speaker 3: the country comment on it and point out things that

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Speaker 3: could be improved, I think as important part of how

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Speaker 3: things work. And that's what we're going to do in

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Speaker 3: this case.

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Speaker 2: All right, quick, matter that's related tertiary, the tertiary clause

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Speaker 2: that you're not the tertiary the treaty clause that you're

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Speaker 2: looking at in terms of the government. So how long

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Speaker 2: is this going to take?

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Speaker 3: Well, we've got a group of people looking at there's

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Speaker 3: about fifteen or twenty pieces of legislation that we're looking

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Speaker 3: at with references to the treaty. The issue is that

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Speaker 3: it's been too vague in the past, and the result

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Speaker 3: is that, you know, in the education context, if you've

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Speaker 3: got this vague treaty references scattered all the way through

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Speaker 3: the legislation in the hands of a radical school, principle

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Speaker 3: can be interpreted to mean that you've got to do

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Speaker 3: it twenty percent of your day every day on ta

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Speaker 3: al mari or something like that. And so it's too vague.

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Speaker 3: And so what we want to do was either take

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Speaker 3: it out or be much clearer about what we do

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00:50:54,640 --> 00:50:55,480
Speaker 3: and what we don't mean.

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Speaker 2: And that process.

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00:50:56,600 --> 00:50:59,960
Speaker 3: Look, it's going to take a few months for our

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00:51:00,160 --> 00:51:03,200
Speaker 3: to fall on what the actual changes we want to

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00:51:03,239 --> 00:51:04,840
Speaker 3: do and be clear about, and then we have to

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Speaker 3: legislate for it. So it's not going to be a

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00:51:06,360 --> 00:51:08,720
Speaker 3: quick fix overnight, but we want to do it properly.

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Speaker 2: Seymour wanted it completely. Were you guys pushing back against that?

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00:51:13,760 --> 00:51:16,640
Speaker 3: Well, look, I'm not sure what his comments are. I mean,

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00:51:16,640 --> 00:51:18,920
Speaker 3: we're part of a cabinet and a collective responsibility. We

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00:51:19,000 --> 00:51:21,920
Speaker 3: collectively made response to decisions as a cabinet and that's

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00:51:21,960 --> 00:51:22,440
Speaker 3: how it works.

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Speaker 2: Appreciate your time very much. Justice Minister Paul Goldsmith. I'm

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Speaker 2: glad you said that because I got to text a

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00:51:27,360 --> 00:51:30,400
Speaker 2: moment ago. It's a very good point made what Seymour

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00:51:30,440 --> 00:51:32,799
Speaker 2: said yesterday as regards it was us who wanted it

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00:51:32,840 --> 00:51:36,600
Speaker 2: out but the other guys didn't. As you could argue

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00:51:36,600 --> 00:51:40,880
Speaker 2: a breach of cabinet confidentiality and part of the coalition

1105
00:51:41,000 --> 00:51:43,880
Speaker 2: agreement is if you agree, you can agree to disagree,

1106
00:51:43,960 --> 00:51:46,880
Speaker 2: and he didn't invoke that. He's just come out all

1107
00:51:46,920 --> 00:51:48,880
Speaker 2: of a sudden seema and go and yeah, we wanted

1108
00:51:48,880 --> 00:51:52,440
Speaker 2: it out, but they didn't. And so that's that's it's

1109
00:51:52,480 --> 00:51:54,880
Speaker 2: got a little fresson about it. I think seventeen minutes

1110
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Speaker 2: away from Ete last getting like the weekend after the

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00:51:57,200 --> 00:52:01,200
Speaker 2: British Grand Prix is Goodwood. I couldn't agree more. Mike,

1112
00:52:01,239 --> 00:52:04,120
Speaker 2: We're doing Lemon and the British Grand Prix next year.

1113
00:52:04,360 --> 00:52:09,120
Speaker 2: Petrol Head Heaven Wow to be fair to act, they're

1114
00:52:09,160 --> 00:52:11,560
Speaker 2: turning into a one trick pony. Mike Lowell. No movement

1115
00:52:11,560 --> 00:52:14,160
Speaker 2: in the polls. Emails are Mari entreaty going ballistic in

1116
00:52:14,239 --> 00:52:18,920
Speaker 2: our feeds. You might have a point, Mike. Husband's bucket

1117
00:52:18,920 --> 00:52:20,880
Speaker 2: list F one in Europe, we leave New Zealand for

1118
00:52:20,960 --> 00:52:24,399
Speaker 2: Buddhapest thirty one July. My dad's philosophy, you can sleep

1119
00:52:24,400 --> 00:52:24,960
Speaker 2: when you're dead.

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Speaker 4: Do it.

1121
00:52:26,360 --> 00:52:27,960
Speaker 2: Mike went to the F one movie last night.

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00:52:28,000 --> 00:52:28,239
Speaker 5: Loved that.

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00:52:28,280 --> 00:52:29,880
Speaker 2: I thought Mike's going to be here. He's going to

1124
00:52:29,920 --> 00:52:31,759
Speaker 2: be one of the first ones to watch it. Right

1125
00:52:31,840 --> 00:52:33,560
Speaker 2: up as Ellie, Donnie, You're right, I will watch it.

1126
00:52:33,600 --> 00:52:34,840
Speaker 2: I'm looking forward to our I won't get to the

1127
00:52:34,840 --> 00:52:36,760
Speaker 2: movies to see it. I'll wait for it coming on streaming.

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Speaker 2: Mike Silverstone F one following We're going to Goodwood Festival

1129
00:52:41,760 --> 00:52:47,040
Speaker 2: of Speed. Pockett You only live once sixteen two.

1130
00:52:47,120 --> 00:52:51,640
Speaker 1: The Vike asking Breakfast full show podcast on iHeartRadio powered

1131
00:52:51,640 --> 00:52:52,320
Speaker 1: by News.

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00:52:52,080 --> 00:52:52,640
Speaker 5: Talks at b.

1133
00:52:54,280 --> 00:52:56,480
Speaker 2: Mike watching the f one moving on streaming is like

1134
00:52:56,600 --> 00:53:03,399
Speaker 2: visiting the Systeine Chapel online. What's wrong with that? Morning, Mike,

1135
00:53:03,520 --> 00:53:05,959
Speaker 2: We leave for Silverstone tonight. This is our third Grand

1136
00:53:06,000 --> 00:53:07,719
Speaker 2: Prix over the last couple of years. We've been to

1137
00:53:07,760 --> 00:53:11,319
Speaker 2: Singapore and Monaco. See Singapore, Yeah, I get it because

1138
00:53:11,320 --> 00:53:13,560
Speaker 2: you can stay close. It's it's in the middle of town.

1139
00:53:13,600 --> 00:53:17,000
Speaker 2: You don't see problem with Silverstone. It's miles out of London.

1140
00:53:17,480 --> 00:53:19,759
Speaker 2: Monaco once again, same thing but not really a race.

1141
00:53:19,800 --> 00:53:22,080
Speaker 2: But Monico is beautiful. I'm readly a lot of reviews

1142
00:53:22,080 --> 00:53:25,360
Speaker 2: of Monico. People are rude there in general tourism, you know,

1143
00:53:25,400 --> 00:53:27,319
Speaker 2: everyone wants to go to Monico, but the locals don't

1144
00:53:27,320 --> 00:53:30,520
Speaker 2: actually like in Treaty particularly Well Mike leaving for Silverstone tonight.

1145
00:53:30,600 --> 00:53:34,160
Speaker 2: Go Liam Kevin, well done, have a good time, Mike.

1146
00:53:34,200 --> 00:53:35,880
Speaker 2: Do any poor people listen to your program?

1147
00:53:41,239 --> 00:53:42,160
Speaker 16: Ah?

1148
00:53:42,200 --> 00:53:45,680
Speaker 2: Just I'm leaving for Silverstone tonight. Quick question around the

1149
00:53:45,719 --> 00:53:48,960
Speaker 2: media for you this morning. This is Radio in New Zealand.

1150
00:53:49,719 --> 00:53:51,520
Speaker 2: They've done a story and God bless them for doing

1151
00:53:51,520 --> 00:53:53,440
Speaker 2: a story. How did the school lunches go so good.

1152
00:53:53,440 --> 00:53:55,360
Speaker 2: Follow up story, excellent follow up story. How did the

1153
00:53:55,360 --> 00:53:56,520
Speaker 2: school lunches go into them?

1154
00:53:56,520 --> 00:53:56,719
Speaker 5: Too?

1155
00:53:57,080 --> 00:54:01,160
Speaker 2: Fair? Success by any measure, said david's seymore and he's

1156
00:54:01,200 --> 00:54:03,759
Speaker 2: got the numbers. The numbers are as follows. Last term

1157
00:54:03,840 --> 00:54:06,200
Speaker 2: ninety eight, more than ninety eight percent of lunches were

1158
00:54:06,239 --> 00:54:09,200
Speaker 2: delivered on time each day. Complaints were down by ninety

1159
00:54:09,200 --> 00:54:13,239
Speaker 2: two percent since March. Student satisfaction was sixty seven percent,

1160
00:54:13,320 --> 00:54:16,320
Speaker 2: and that's gone up from forty six percent. So more trucks,

1161
00:54:16,480 --> 00:54:20,399
Speaker 2: streamline delivery equipment was upgraded, more staff members were hired.

1162
00:54:20,920 --> 00:54:24,040
Speaker 2: Production is now exceeding daily limits. Two million meals are

1163
00:54:24,040 --> 00:54:26,040
Speaker 2: expected to be ready for distribution by the start of

1164
00:54:26,080 --> 00:54:28,240
Speaker 2: tien three. So, so far, so good. There's your story.

1165
00:54:28,360 --> 00:54:31,840
Speaker 2: Now my question for you is it the media's responsibility

1166
00:54:31,880 --> 00:54:33,759
Speaker 2: to at that point because I'm sick of TV one

1167
00:54:33,800 --> 00:54:37,320
Speaker 2: at the moment, TV one go, Why Mommma Mater? However,

1168
00:54:37,600 --> 00:54:41,040
Speaker 2: not everyone agrees. Now, why don't you just report the news?

1169
00:54:41,040 --> 00:54:43,960
Speaker 2: The reportage of the news lunch was ninety eight percent

1170
00:54:44,000 --> 00:54:48,000
Speaker 2: of delivery, ninety two percent of complaints were down, sixty

1171
00:54:48,000 --> 00:54:50,680
Speaker 2: seven percent, student satisfaction up from forty six There are

1172
00:54:50,719 --> 00:54:53,440
Speaker 2: the facts, There are the stats. Black and white story finished?

1173
00:54:53,560 --> 00:54:54,359
Speaker 2: But what do they then?

1174
00:54:54,400 --> 00:54:54,520
Speaker 5: Do?

1175
00:54:54,560 --> 00:54:56,359
Speaker 2: They go out and find a principle to whine about it?

1176
00:54:56,719 --> 00:54:58,400
Speaker 2: So can you go out and find a principle to

1177
00:54:58,400 --> 00:55:01,319
Speaker 2: wine about anything? Push can? So you know that? So

1178
00:55:01,440 --> 00:55:03,240
Speaker 2: not that you can do that? Why has that suddenly

1179
00:55:03,280 --> 00:55:06,359
Speaker 2: become news? Why isn't the news simply the stats? Are

1180
00:55:06,360 --> 00:55:08,880
Speaker 2: things better? Yes? They are? How much better? There are

1181
00:55:08,920 --> 00:55:11,319
Speaker 2: the numbers beginning, middle, and the end of story. Why

1182
00:55:11,480 --> 00:55:15,880
Speaker 2: why go find yet another whiner to do some more whining?

1183
00:55:17,960 --> 00:55:20,360
Speaker 2: Fair or not? Turn away from it?

1184
00:55:20,480 --> 00:55:24,480
Speaker 1: The Mike Hosking breakfast with Vita Retirement Communities the news

1185
00:55:24,520 --> 00:55:25,120
Speaker 1: toms had been.

1186
00:55:25,200 --> 00:55:27,000
Speaker 2: He just got a text from a rich friend, Mike,

1187
00:55:27,120 --> 00:55:30,360
Speaker 2: it's Monika. Stay at the Hotel de Peri. There's nothing

1188
00:55:30,360 --> 00:55:32,399
Speaker 2: close in a couple of weeks on holiday, And then

1189
00:55:32,440 --> 00:55:37,960
Speaker 2: on to Lemon's. Yes, jeez, I would stay here and

1190
00:55:38,040 --> 00:55:40,920
Speaker 2: keep working. Seven away from a confectionery company R Jay's.

1191
00:55:41,320 --> 00:55:43,279
Speaker 2: They pulled the plug on the old Jaffers. It's the

1192
00:55:43,280 --> 00:55:45,880
Speaker 2: old story declining sales. They also pulled them from Australian

1193
00:55:45,920 --> 00:55:48,960
Speaker 2: shelves in twenty twenty three. Mike Hutchinson, of course, is

1194
00:55:48,960 --> 00:55:51,680
Speaker 2: marketing expert, former managing director of sarchin Sarcy and as

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Speaker 2: whether it's Mike morning, good morning. What's the value of

1196
00:55:55,320 --> 00:55:57,960
Speaker 2: a name just you know, from a branding marketing point

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00:55:58,000 --> 00:56:00,400
Speaker 2: of viewer name you say Jeffers, Is that worth something?

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00:56:01,160 --> 00:56:04,880
Speaker 11: Hell? Yes, I mean I would think the competitor should

1199
00:56:04,880 --> 00:56:06,359
Speaker 11: pick it up in the heartbeat. I mean, it's not

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00:56:06,480 --> 00:56:10,759
Speaker 11: just a sweet, it's a symbol and it's come to

1201
00:56:10,800 --> 00:56:13,280
Speaker 11: me in all kinds of different things rather than just

1202
00:56:13,400 --> 00:56:17,480
Speaker 11: as sweet. And I can't believe that they let it

1203
00:56:17,520 --> 00:56:20,240
Speaker 11: go or letting it go. I mean there are products

1204
00:56:20,280 --> 00:56:22,680
Speaker 11: like em and M's, which is simply you know, candy

1205
00:56:22,719 --> 00:56:25,959
Speaker 11: colored candy covered chocolate, which are doing really really well.

1206
00:56:25,960 --> 00:56:28,360
Speaker 11: Why I would make a real thing of it. I

1207
00:56:28,360 --> 00:56:32,040
Speaker 11: would have a special effort and create a real campaign

1208
00:56:32,160 --> 00:56:35,000
Speaker 11: around the whole notion of Jeffers. The packaging is wrong,

1209
00:56:35,400 --> 00:56:38,520
Speaker 11: the troubles. It's owned by an Australian company now Darryl Lee,

1210
00:56:38,960 --> 00:56:40,520
Speaker 11: and they would have placed it down on ours, but

1211
00:56:40,520 --> 00:56:43,560
Speaker 11: they wouldn't have the sense of what Jeffers means to

1212
00:56:43,600 --> 00:56:45,600
Speaker 11: New Zealand. And I think it's just crazy.

1213
00:56:45,960 --> 00:56:48,319
Speaker 2: Is there too much in the market space at the moment.

1214
00:56:48,320 --> 00:56:49,880
Speaker 2: In other words, it's one of those markets where you

1215
00:56:49,920 --> 00:56:52,840
Speaker 2: just it's turnover, turnover, turnover, new product, new product, new product,

1216
00:56:52,880 --> 00:56:54,760
Speaker 2: and therefore something traditional doesn't last.

1217
00:56:55,560 --> 00:56:58,840
Speaker 11: But that's lazy, that's lazy marketing. Thinking I'd make something

1218
00:56:58,880 --> 00:57:01,680
Speaker 11: of this and think you can turn a brand around.

1219
00:57:01,719 --> 00:57:03,880
Speaker 11: You can turn a product around, like too he did

1220
00:57:03,960 --> 00:57:08,000
Speaker 11: with beer. Make it fun, and jaffas are fun. Certainly,

1221
00:57:08,040 --> 00:57:09,600
Speaker 11: if you grew up in the provinces like I did,

1222
00:57:09,880 --> 00:57:12,560
Speaker 11: you're rolling Jaffers down the theater.

1223
00:57:14,800 --> 00:57:16,400
Speaker 2: But I just wondered if that was I saying that

1224
00:57:16,440 --> 00:57:18,320
Speaker 2: someone earlier on this morning mon. I just wonder if

1225
00:57:18,320 --> 00:57:21,760
Speaker 2: we're old farts who long for the kids these days

1226
00:57:21,760 --> 00:57:23,800
Speaker 2: don't know what a jaffers, nor do they care. Therefore,

1227
00:57:23,880 --> 00:57:26,880
Speaker 2: if you and I aren't buying them, which I assuming

1228
00:57:26,920 --> 00:57:28,360
Speaker 2: we're not, or maybe we are, I don't know. But

1229
00:57:28,400 --> 00:57:30,440
Speaker 2: if we're not buying them, then the new generation has

1230
00:57:30,480 --> 00:57:31,320
Speaker 2: moved on, haven't they.

1231
00:57:32,200 --> 00:57:34,400
Speaker 11: Well, they possibly have, but they've gone into EM and M's,

1232
00:57:34,440 --> 00:57:38,000
Speaker 11: which are an international product and inferior. I would still

1233
00:57:38,040 --> 00:57:41,680
Speaker 11: stick with with Jeffers, I spent part of a childhood memory,

1234
00:57:41,800 --> 00:57:44,240
Speaker 11: so I've gone it. Quite fond of Jason going past

1235
00:57:44,240 --> 00:57:46,640
Speaker 11: the factory in Licuus all sorts of jaffers. We're all

1236
00:57:46,640 --> 00:57:49,320
Speaker 11: part of liquid about growing up. Oh, I love that.

1237
00:57:50,120 --> 00:57:53,080
Speaker 11: I'd make something of it. Some account in Australia has

1238
00:57:53,080 --> 00:57:53,520
Speaker 11: pulled the pin.

1239
00:57:54,080 --> 00:57:57,360
Speaker 2: Not a marketer, okay, So you could take a product,

1240
00:57:58,480 --> 00:58:00,640
Speaker 2: go to them and say, look, here's how I would

1241
00:58:00,720 --> 00:58:03,160
Speaker 2: do it, and you would be confident of being able

1242
00:58:03,200 --> 00:58:05,200
Speaker 2: to achieve some sort of success.

1243
00:58:06,040 --> 00:58:09,880
Speaker 11: Absolutely, And I'd make it fun and not just as

1244
00:58:10,000 --> 00:58:13,959
Speaker 11: a not just as a sweet, but as an icon

1245
00:58:14,080 --> 00:58:16,760
Speaker 11: and make it a brand that means something. Red Bull

1246
00:58:16,800 --> 00:58:18,080
Speaker 11: have done it. I mean, there are lots of people

1247
00:58:18,160 --> 00:58:21,080
Speaker 11: have done things like this. I'd pick it up and

1248
00:58:21,160 --> 00:58:21,520
Speaker 11: run with it.

1249
00:58:21,560 --> 00:58:23,320
Speaker 2: Good on your mind, let's talk. Do you appreciate it?

1250
00:58:23,320 --> 00:58:26,000
Speaker 2: Mike Hutchinson marketing experts form the Status and Status five

1251
00:58:26,040 --> 00:58:30,720
Speaker 2: and it's Away from Sevensky Mike. Spa and Belgium. Great

1252
00:58:30,760 --> 00:58:32,960
Speaker 2: track to watch the Aspara is watching the last weekend

1253
00:58:33,200 --> 00:58:36,800
Speaker 2: in It wasn't Spa, it was the Red Bull Ring,

1254
00:58:36,840 --> 00:58:40,840
Speaker 2: which is Austria and Spa is Belgium. But there's similar tracks.

1255
00:58:41,440 --> 00:58:44,720
Speaker 2: A lot of forestry, lot of hillside, a lot of country,

1256
00:58:45,000 --> 00:58:47,000
Speaker 2: lot of lot of jenness aquas.

1257
00:58:48,520 --> 00:58:52,160
Speaker 16: I thought the Canadian one was pretty with all the water.

1258
00:58:52,920 --> 00:58:55,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's next to the water and it's sort of yeah,

1259
00:58:55,640 --> 00:58:57,520
Speaker 2: it's got some trees. Get I get what you're saying.

1260
00:58:57,680 --> 00:58:59,720
Speaker 2: Mons is the same sort of thing, But I guess

1261
00:58:59,800 --> 00:59:03,200
Speaker 2: there's nothing that the Spa track, there's a straight and

1262
00:59:03,240 --> 00:59:04,840
Speaker 2: I can't remember the name of the strait, but you

1263
00:59:04,920 --> 00:59:08,360
Speaker 2: come down and then you up the straight like a rocket.

1264
00:59:08,560 --> 00:59:10,760
Speaker 2: It's a famous straight. People listening to everyone will know

1265
00:59:10,800 --> 00:59:14,000
Speaker 2: what what I'm saying. In fact, they're probably not listening.

1266
00:59:14,040 --> 00:59:15,760
Speaker 2: They're probably all in Europe at the moment and they've

1267
00:59:15,800 --> 00:59:20,640
Speaker 2: gone on holiday. Hopefully they're still listening. On iHeart Youth

1268
00:59:20,960 --> 00:59:24,680
Speaker 2: MP Week. What was that about yesterday that that whole

1269
00:59:25,680 --> 00:59:28,640
Speaker 2: eighteen year old goes to town? Are the ever repressing

1270
00:59:28,680 --> 00:59:29,280
Speaker 2: our views?

1271
00:59:29,360 --> 00:59:29,560
Speaker 4: What?

1272
00:59:29,560 --> 00:59:32,040
Speaker 2: What was that? Was there really a story? Each MP

1273
00:59:32,240 --> 00:59:35,440
Speaker 2: has to adopt a youth MP. So we'll talk more

1274
00:59:35,440 --> 00:59:38,600
Speaker 2: about that with Mark and Jinny after the News, which

1275
00:59:38,640 --> 00:59:40,400
Speaker 2: is next to good News to episode.

1276
00:59:43,880 --> 00:59:49,880
Speaker 1: Mike Hoskame insightful, engaging and vital the Mic Hosking Breakfast

1277
00:59:50,080 --> 00:59:53,439
Speaker 1: with the Defender actor the most powerful Defender ever made,

1278
00:59:53,480 --> 00:59:54,480
Speaker 1: and Youth Togs Dead.

1279
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Speaker 2: Be lost There.

1280
00:59:57,680 --> 00:59:59,080
Speaker 3: I was born in Arevn.

1281
01:00:00,360 --> 01:00:04,240
Speaker 20: I'm a whole with a Richville prison Happy.

1282
01:00:05,320 --> 01:00:11,360
Speaker 2: No Surprises on the Voice of Only twenty two in

1283
01:00:11,880 --> 01:00:16,320
Speaker 2: Just a Kid of a Person Fun no Better, Although

1284
01:00:16,360 --> 01:00:18,760
Speaker 2: funnily enough, it says the music you will hear largely

1285
01:00:18,800 --> 01:00:22,240
Speaker 2: falls outside what the average Springsteen fan would expect from

1286
01:00:22,320 --> 01:00:24,120
Speaker 2: him and find him working in styles at a new

1287
01:00:24,120 --> 01:00:26,240
Speaker 2: tole them. I don't think this is new. This is

1288
01:00:26,240 --> 01:00:28,680
Speaker 2: classic Springsteen, isn't it now? What's exciting about this is

1289
01:00:28,720 --> 01:00:31,720
Speaker 2: it's called is it tracks two? Is there want have Gone?

1290
01:00:31,720 --> 01:00:34,600
Speaker 2: Tracks two? The lost albums? And my word, there are

1291
01:00:34,640 --> 01:00:36,880
Speaker 2: a loss of lost albums. So it's a box set?

1292
01:00:37,520 --> 01:00:39,040
Speaker 2: Like Jeffers, isn't it a box set? When it was

1293
01:00:39,080 --> 01:00:44,040
Speaker 2: last time he saw a box seat seven? Seven full

1294
01:00:44,120 --> 01:00:48,840
Speaker 2: length albums that were completed but never released, with the

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Speaker 2: exception of La Garage Demos eighty three that's in there,

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Speaker 2: but the rest never were released. You've got lord knows

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Speaker 2: how many Bruce Springsteen tracks, but you have got in total,

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Speaker 2: five hours, twenty minutes and eight seconds of the Boss

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Speaker 2: Am and has pass a politics Wednesday, Mark Mitchell Wellers

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Speaker 2: along with Ginny Anderson, Good morning you too, Morning morning,

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Speaker 2: good morning. Do you have Ginny with you?

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Speaker 13: Your youth MP not besides me, but we've been in

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Speaker 13: close contact over the last few days, particularly considering all

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Speaker 13: of the drama that's been happening at Parliament.

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Speaker 2: Well, well, come back to that drama in the moment.

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Speaker 2: Where is your youth MP right now.

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Speaker 13: That say they're getting ready to go into Youth Parliament.

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Speaker 13: They'll be there in one way, so they'll be getting

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Speaker 13: into the bus or how they're getting there, and I

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Speaker 13: will be watching his debate in the general debate at

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Speaker 13: about half past ten this morning.

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Speaker 2: Have you given them any Anderson tips?

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Speaker 5: Of course?

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Speaker 13: Always yeah, Like it's really quite hard when you're speaking

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Speaker 13: for the first time in the house because I always

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Speaker 13: remember when I did my my maiden speech. You don't

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Speaker 13: know who to look at. You know, when you get

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Speaker 13: up to talk to a room, you sort of look

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Speaker 13: at the front row, or look at someone who's smiling,

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Speaker 13: or your mum if she's there and there's no one there.

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Speaker 13: It's sort of you're looking at the speaker and you've

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Speaker 13: got these sort of angry looking opposition people or government

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Speaker 13: depending on where you are at the time. So knowing

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Speaker 13: where to look and to take a breath and not

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Speaker 13: going too fast, all those things you want to make

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Speaker 13: sure they they thought about those.

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Speaker 2: Did you, Because one I've observed you, Jinny, is that

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Speaker 2: you're a lecturn gripper.

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Speaker 13: Yes, I am a leen gripper, did you fee It's

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Speaker 13: just with a pin I've told as well, I need

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Speaker 13: to put my pinning down. I can point that around

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Speaker 13: a bit March.

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Speaker 2: Did you tell them to grip the lecturn?

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Speaker 13: Usually it's to give me a bit of extra height

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Speaker 13: because I have trouble. I'm vertically challenged, so sometimes that

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Speaker 13: can push me up a bit further. No, I didn't

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Speaker 13: tell him that. I just told him to enjoy it

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Speaker 13: for what it is and to get you know, have

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Speaker 13: a good time. That's what it's about.

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Speaker 2: Mark your MP. Whereas where as your MP.

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Speaker 20: As we speak, she's on her way in now to Parliament.

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Speaker 20: She's absolutely loving the experience. She delivered a very good

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Speaker 20: General debate speech yesterday. She spoke about mental health, she

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Speaker 20: spoke about the negative impact of drugs Class A drugs

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Speaker 20: on our country and communities. And she's a really patiate

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Speaker 20: young woman that actually has already in year thirteen started

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Speaker 20: up a little charity that she's delivering aid into the

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Speaker 20: Pacific Islands in particular.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, is yours impressive to Ginny, I mean you've

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Speaker 2: got to say obviously.

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Speaker 13: Genuinely, yeah, as amazing. He's our first year university student.

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Speaker 13: He comes from a family of eleven and mata. He's prid,

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Speaker 13: someone active in the community and winery and really I

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Speaker 13: really enjoyed going to local events with him. So he's

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Speaker 13: come out with me over the last couple of days

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Speaker 13: to attend different community engagements, in particular Clever and you

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Speaker 13: know he's going to be a leader in New Zealand.

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Speaker 2: Have you met any other ones, Mark, I mean there

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Speaker 2: are any idiots in there.

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Speaker 20: I've met a few that was sort of you know,

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Speaker 20: it's like it's like it's like any parliament, you're going

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Speaker 20: to get some top quality ones and you get some

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Speaker 20: sort of scratch and you wonder, well they're even applied

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Speaker 20: to be there. But looks in my view, it's yeah,

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Speaker 20: I love it. It's I heard that someone's getting up

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Speaker 20: making a speech saying that you don't having a voice

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Speaker 20: in New Zealand. Well it's a bit of a contradiction

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Speaker 20: in terms is that when they're standing up in our

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Speaker 20: parliament being able to talk about issues that are important

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Speaker 20: young people and what.

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Speaker 2: Was yesterday about in this whole we've been repressed and

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Speaker 2: we're not allowed to say what we want in the

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Speaker 2: ministry of whoever runs it's gone. Is any of that

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Speaker 2: true or not?

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Speaker 13: That is true?

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Speaker 2: It is true, that is true.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, I've seen the emails. So they write a speech

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Speaker 13: and for the first time ever, they are required to

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Speaker 13: submit it for approval. And there were things that were

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Speaker 13: taken out. I've seen more than my uth MP and

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Speaker 13: a few others where when they talked about pay equity,

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Speaker 13: the treaty principles, one instance, growing up at a home

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Speaker 13: where there's not enough food or affording to be able

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Speaker 13: to pay that for the heat thing to be on

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Speaker 13: in winter, all those things were to be removed and

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Speaker 13: they had to be resubmitted with them taken out.

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Speaker 2: And is this the ministry?

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Speaker 13: Well, who knows? Is it the minister telling the ministry

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Speaker 13: or is it just the ministry? We will never know.

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Speaker 20: Well, I'd have to check on that, but I know

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Speaker 20: that when Labor and Government all the speeches were also made.

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Speaker 20: The content was okay, So we'd have to look at

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Speaker 20: that and we clarified that are you Mark Mark for

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Speaker 20: the record, are you running a repressive regime here?

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Speaker 2: That No, definitely, not that.

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Speaker 5: Quite the opposite.

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Speaker 20: The repressive regime, the regime that told everyone that they

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Speaker 20: were the pulp of the truth was the previous government,

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Speaker 20: not this one.

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Speaker 13: If you're the one telling young people they can't say

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Speaker 13: what they think in their.

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Speaker 20: Head, the problem with you, problem with Jenny Fax is

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Speaker 20: you got to go and check them, fact check them.

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Speaker 5: So let me go on and fact check that.

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Speaker 12: You do that.

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Speaker 2: Genny fact Brief, Brief, break more in a moment, Ginny Anderson,

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Speaker 2: Mark Mitchell, thirty past eight, the.

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Speaker 1: Mike Hosking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio, powered by

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Speaker 1: News Talks.

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Speaker 2: It be News Talks. There'll be fifteen pasted a Mark Mitchell,

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Speaker 2: Junny Anderson with a couple of minutes quickly on this business.

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Speaker 2: But big week for the government. Mark on justice, crime,

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Speaker 2: first responders and instant fines King, He's the whole thing.

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Speaker 2: What materially do you expect to happen as a result

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Speaker 2: of these changes.

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Speaker 20: Well, I think they all add to some weight around

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Speaker 20: a system, change around consequences, and I think that's been

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Speaker 20: missing in our country for quite a long time, and

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Speaker 20: it's time that consequences were brought back. People don't get

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Speaker 20: a free ride when they decide to walk into someone's

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Speaker 20: business and steal from them, when they decide to abuse

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Speaker 20: or assault. You know, workers who go to work expecting

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Speaker 20: to be able to go home safely at the end

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Speaker 20: of their shift. So I think that we've we've as

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Speaker 20: a government, we've been really clear. When we came into government,

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Speaker 20: we were sick and tired of the fact that there

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Speaker 20: were no consequences, that crime had been allowed to get

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Speaker 20: completely out of control of this country. And we're pushing

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Speaker 20: back and we're starting to make some progress the right direction.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Ginny, is there anything announced this week that you

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Speaker 2: guys would flip or will you live with all of it?

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Speaker 13: Well, the problem we have, Mike, is that because they

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Speaker 13: failed to deliver their promise of five hundred police, all

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Speaker 13: of these things are trying to compensate for the fact

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Speaker 13: that they've missed the mark and what they promised Key

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Speaker 13: is that they would do. So I don't think we'd

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Speaker 13: flip them. But there are things that are a bit weird,

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Speaker 13: like the shoplifting, Like the previous or the current level

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Speaker 13: for shoplifting is that it's seven years for over one

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Speaker 13: thousand dollars now, so they've actually lowered the threshold for

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Speaker 13: shoplifting through these changes. So let me finish that. So

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Speaker 13: currently it's three months of five hundred. If it's under

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Speaker 13: a k, you get a year. If it's over one thousand,

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Speaker 13: you get seven years. And they're saying that they've got

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Speaker 13: this two thousand marks, so for shoplifting between one thousand

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Speaker 13: and two thousand dollars, they've actually lowered the amount that

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Speaker 13: people have.

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Speaker 2: But just for the record, the first responders, the king hats,

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Speaker 2: sucker punch, whatever you want to call them, the instant

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Speaker 2: finds in the discounts. You wouldn't change that in some

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Speaker 2: in simple.

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Speaker 13: Terms, we would take all those things to caucus. But

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Speaker 13: I think that it's important first responders are safe. All

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Speaker 13: those things are important changes, but the ability to make

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Speaker 13: sure that they are implemented relies on having a well

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Speaker 13: resourced frontline.

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Speaker 20: And well, I'm glad, I'm glad that I'm glad you're

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Speaker 20: going to support our first responders because, first of all,

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Speaker 20: a big shout out to bus drivers. How on a second, Jilly,

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Speaker 20: big shout out to Andy Everest, who is a leader

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Speaker 20: with Saint John's and he has been meeting with me

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Speaker 20: regularly on them wanting to see the First Responders Bill

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Speaker 20: walk back. Just let me give you some history here.

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Speaker 20: Derek Ball, who felt very strongly about this New Zealand

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Speaker 20: first member of Parliament at the time they went out

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Speaker 20: of parliament twenty twenty, asked me to pick up his

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Speaker 20: first Responders Bill and said that he had they were

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Speaker 20: in government if you remember with Labor.

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Speaker 5: And said he had support for it.

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Speaker 20: I picked it up. I could not yet Labour, so

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Speaker 20: port for a first responsible They voted it down. So

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Speaker 20: it's nice to hear Jenny that you have changed your.

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Speaker 13: Position a Mark. Is it a Mark fact? Because I

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Speaker 13: said it's going to caucus, So Mark faxt time.

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Speaker 4: On.

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Speaker 2: There's nothing you can argue about here as the gender.

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Speaker 13: Look, they're all good measures, but they need one. Actually,

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Speaker 13: someone has written to me in the last few hours

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Speaker 13: and said they're a bus driver and they're really worried

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Speaker 13: about the level of violence at bus driver's face. Why

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Speaker 13: they are included along with ambulance drivers. Why should someone

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Speaker 13: get a longer presence interm for punching an ambulance driver

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Speaker 13: in face?

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Speaker 20: Well, because this government's serious about looking after all kiwis

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Speaker 20: and whatever work. And I just want to address you

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Speaker 20: five hundred. When I became minister, we were two hundred down.

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Speaker 20: Do you know why that's.

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Speaker 13: Because you're.

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Speaker 20: I just I just want to say before Mark, let

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Speaker 20: me let me give a shell out to our police officers,

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Speaker 20: because even.

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Speaker 2: With Mark, it's not tell a thoughts, we're not giving you. Well, well,

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Speaker 2: let me.

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Speaker 20: Let me I just I do feel, I do, I

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Speaker 20: do feel. I do feel very strongly that I want

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Speaker 20: to defend our frontline police officers who.

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Speaker 2: The police do a great job. But I think I

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Speaker 2: watched Chambers yesterday. To be fair, Mark, I watched Chambers yesterday.

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Speaker 2: I think we can conclude you're not going to get

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Speaker 2: to five hundred before the end of the year like

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Speaker 2: you promised.

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Speaker 20: Well, the five hundred, we've got to focus on standards

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Speaker 20: because in twenty eighteen the standards were dropped and discretion

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Speaker 20: was up and so and so we're in stating that.

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Speaker 20: And at the time I slipt committee. I challenged the government.

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Speaker 20: I said, you can't be doing this. So we're reversing that.

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Speaker 20: I've just done that.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I've got sixty seconds left, yes.

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Speaker 20: Yeah, just just really quickly though. No, Sorry, Jenny, sorry, Jenny,

1510
01:10:48,200 --> 01:10:50,360
Speaker 20: look sorry, Jenny. I want to acknowledge the police effect

1511
01:10:50,400 --> 01:10:53,600
Speaker 20: that crimers crimes starting to come down. Jenny, this is

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01:10:53,640 --> 01:10:56,960
Speaker 20: important to people. Crimes starting to come down, victimized whole

1513
01:10:57,400 --> 01:11:01,280
Speaker 20: victimizations are starting to come right, Let's.

1514
01:11:01,160 --> 01:11:05,520
Speaker 2: Let's do this an election quickly, quickly. I've got sixty seconds.

1515
01:11:05,800 --> 01:11:09,800
Speaker 2: Did either of you ever meet Mitchunkovic and did she

1516
01:11:09,920 --> 01:11:12,040
Speaker 2: do anything useful before she came and she went.

1517
01:11:14,840 --> 01:11:15,720
Speaker 13: Radio?

1518
01:11:15,840 --> 01:11:18,080
Speaker 2: Who's she's the MP who's resigned?

1519
01:11:19,040 --> 01:11:20,680
Speaker 7: Oh?

1520
01:11:20,040 --> 01:11:21,760
Speaker 13: No, I have not.

1521
01:11:22,080 --> 01:11:23,840
Speaker 5: I did not know of.

1522
01:11:24,800 --> 01:11:27,200
Speaker 20: And I think that she just felt like her skills

1523
01:11:27,200 --> 01:11:28,840
Speaker 20: a bit of use in the private secret at the moment,

1524
01:11:29,000 --> 01:11:29,960
Speaker 20: and I respect the fixture.

1525
01:11:31,600 --> 01:11:35,200
Speaker 13: Yeah, yeah, Tania, Sorry you had to use your first name.

1526
01:11:35,200 --> 01:11:37,360
Speaker 13: I would have known that. I don't know. I think

1527
01:11:37,360 --> 01:11:42,360
Speaker 13: you know, I know who's talking about. I think there's

1528
01:11:42,360 --> 01:11:45,000
Speaker 13: more to that story. It's quite bizarre someone would resign

1529
01:11:45,120 --> 01:11:47,920
Speaker 13: so quickly without anything more to that, So I think.

1530
01:11:48,280 --> 01:11:50,360
Speaker 2: Don't start a scandal at the end of the segment

1531
01:11:50,479 --> 01:11:50,800
Speaker 2: like that.

1532
01:11:52,360 --> 01:11:56,680
Speaker 13: Going back to privacytor there they are conspiracy.

1533
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Speaker 5: This great news. We opened down New Auckland.

1534
01:11:58,800 --> 01:12:00,240
Speaker 13: Calling food because.

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01:12:03,120 --> 01:12:04,000
Speaker 3: I saw you.

1536
01:12:04,000 --> 01:12:06,280
Speaker 2: What's John Key doing there? For goodness sake? He said

1537
01:12:07,720 --> 01:12:09,640
Speaker 2: that they need a hug. They can come and call me.

1538
01:12:09,680 --> 01:12:12,000
Speaker 2: What's that about? Yeah, well he's the patron.

1539
01:12:12,120 --> 01:12:13,920
Speaker 20: So each wing has got a patron, and fact we

1540
01:12:13,920 --> 01:12:15,920
Speaker 20: should put you forward one of these. I'd love to

1541
01:12:15,960 --> 01:12:19,680
Speaker 20: be a patron, Okay, noted, because what the patrons do

1542
01:12:19,800 --> 01:12:21,920
Speaker 20: every police officer remember, see the patron was of the

1543
01:12:21,960 --> 01:12:28,800
Speaker 20: wing and they spend time with them. For God's sake,

1544
01:12:30,439 --> 01:12:35,200
Speaker 20: you'd be a great patron, as you could if you.

1545
01:12:35,120 --> 01:12:37,080
Speaker 13: Give them rickens on the front line, how they could

1546
01:12:37,080 --> 01:12:38,080
Speaker 13: deal with tricky situation.

1547
01:12:38,280 --> 01:12:43,960
Speaker 2: Exactly. I've got bipartisan support to become a patron. I

1548
01:12:43,960 --> 01:12:46,880
Speaker 2: don't care who's the election next to you now. Either way,

1549
01:12:47,080 --> 01:12:48,920
Speaker 2: I'm going to be a patron, aren't I?

1550
01:12:48,960 --> 01:12:52,639
Speaker 13: Ginny Yeah, Mike Costing's wing and we'll go down in history.

1551
01:12:52,680 --> 01:12:53,040
Speaker 13: I reckon.

1552
01:12:53,160 --> 01:12:56,840
Speaker 2: We're going nice to see you. But you still think

1553
01:12:56,840 --> 01:12:58,880
Speaker 2: there's something to the Unclevich story, do you?

1554
01:13:00,640 --> 01:13:02,360
Speaker 13: It just seems I don't know. I think there's a

1555
01:13:02,400 --> 01:13:03,760
Speaker 13: bit more to it. You will even know.

1556
01:13:03,920 --> 01:13:14,519
Speaker 2: But Mark Mitchell, Jimmy Anderson for another Week, eight twenty three, The.

1557
01:13:14,680 --> 01:13:18,640
Speaker 1: Might Hosking Breakfast with the Defender, Our news togs.

1558
01:13:18,360 --> 01:13:21,320
Speaker 2: Dead b Now for fifty years, half a century. Bailey's

1559
01:13:21,360 --> 01:13:23,600
Speaker 2: a beautiful Bailey's real estate. They built this legacy of

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01:13:23,640 --> 01:13:26,200
Speaker 2: trust and innovation across the country as the country's leading

1561
01:13:26,200 --> 01:13:31,080
Speaker 2: full service real estate agency. Humble beginnings, they've matured into

1562
01:13:31,120 --> 01:13:34,000
Speaker 2: the country's largest locally owned, family operated real estate network.

1563
01:13:34,000 --> 01:13:36,280
Speaker 2: They've got one hundred officers these days, they've got two

1564
01:13:36,280 --> 01:13:39,679
Speaker 2: thousand personnel expertise across everywhere in the property sector, doesn't

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01:13:39,680 --> 01:13:44,000
Speaker 2: matter residential, commercial, rural, property services. They add value across

1566
01:13:44,040 --> 01:13:47,000
Speaker 2: the property sector. They're also beside you on the rugby pitch.

1567
01:13:47,120 --> 01:13:49,559
Speaker 2: They're into the community, gum boots on the farm, investing

1568
01:13:49,560 --> 01:13:52,200
Speaker 2: in those local communities nationwide. It's the Kiwi's way, it's

1569
01:13:52,240 --> 01:13:54,719
Speaker 2: the Bailey's way, and it's backed by this national network

1570
01:13:54,760 --> 01:13:57,519
Speaker 2: strategic international partnerships as well by the way that gives

1571
01:13:57,560 --> 01:14:00,320
Speaker 2: their clients that cutting edge. So people basically at the

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01:14:00,320 --> 01:14:02,479
Speaker 2: forefront of everything they do. They're proud to support New

1573
01:14:02,560 --> 01:14:06,479
Speaker 2: Zealanders achieve their property goals. They've done real estate differently

1574
01:14:06,520 --> 01:14:09,759
Speaker 2: for fifty years. So how can Baileyes altogether better approach

1575
01:14:09,800 --> 01:14:13,040
Speaker 2: help you? At Baileys dot Co dot NZ licensed under

1576
01:14:13,080 --> 01:14:16,360
Speaker 2: the R eight Area Act of two thousand and eight,

1577
01:14:16,479 --> 01:14:21,040
Speaker 2: Baileys dot Co dot nz asking a text from the

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01:14:21,040 --> 01:14:24,000
Speaker 2: governormp that I won't reveal. Doesn't matter, but they say

1579
01:14:24,080 --> 01:14:28,120
Speaker 2: in opposition my youth MP speech was checked under labor.

1580
01:14:28,439 --> 01:14:32,320
Speaker 2: It happens every year. As Ginny would say, there's probably

1581
01:14:32,360 --> 01:14:35,519
Speaker 2: more to this story news. In a couple of moments,

1582
01:14:35,560 --> 01:14:38,280
Speaker 2: then we're crossing the Tasman to Steve Price. You're on

1583
01:14:38,320 --> 01:14:39,280
Speaker 2: the my Casking.

1584
01:14:39,000 --> 01:14:48,320
Speaker 1: Rest news opinion and everything in between, the Mic Hosking

1585
01:14:48,360 --> 01:14:53,320
Speaker 1: breakfast with Bailey's real estate altogether better across residential, commercial

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01:14:53,400 --> 01:14:54,320
Speaker 1: and rural news.

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01:14:54,320 --> 01:14:56,960
Speaker 2: Togs Head b you know my love of the royal family.

1588
01:14:57,000 --> 01:14:59,559
Speaker 2: The sovereign grant details weren't yesterday. It's about one hundred

1589
01:14:59,560 --> 01:15:02,800
Speaker 2: and sixty million New Zealand dollars each year. This was

1590
01:15:02,840 --> 01:15:07,960
Speaker 2: the financial statements. The runs the palaces, covers the official duties.

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01:15:08,000 --> 01:15:10,559
Speaker 2: In return, the Monarch hands over all the profits from

1592
01:15:10,560 --> 01:15:12,760
Speaker 2: the Crown of State. Now what's the Crown of State. Well,

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01:15:13,040 --> 01:15:16,440
Speaker 2: there's any number of central London properties. They own, ascots

1594
01:15:16,439 --> 01:15:19,839
Speaker 2: in the race course, they own the seabed around England,

1595
01:15:19,880 --> 01:15:22,120
Speaker 2: Wales and Northern Ireland. You think it's a bit angsty here,

1596
01:15:23,160 --> 01:15:24,840
Speaker 2: That's why they call it the Queen's Chain. Of course,

1597
01:15:25,520 --> 01:15:27,559
Speaker 2: but they owned the sea bed around England, Wales and

1598
01:15:27,600 --> 01:15:30,640
Speaker 2: Northern Ireland. There were nineteen hundred public engagements in the

1599
01:15:30,680 --> 01:15:33,240
Speaker 2: UK and overseas in the past year. Ninety three thousand

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01:15:33,240 --> 01:15:35,439
Speaker 2: guests attended eight hundred and twenty eight events, so it's

1601
01:15:35,439 --> 01:15:38,000
Speaker 2: not like they're not busy. They get one hundred million

1602
01:15:38,040 --> 01:15:40,040
Speaker 2: for the core grant and they get about sixty million

1603
01:15:40,080 --> 01:15:42,360
Speaker 2: to fund the refurbishment of Buckingham Palace. And I went

1604
01:15:42,400 --> 01:15:44,599
Speaker 2: to the Buckingham Palace a couple of years ago and

1605
01:15:44,640 --> 01:15:46,519
Speaker 2: it does need refurbishing. It's one of the first things

1606
01:15:46,520 --> 01:15:48,439
Speaker 2: you notice. You go, jeez, to tell you what, this

1607
01:15:48,439 --> 01:15:50,639
Speaker 2: place could use a liquor of paint. And so they're

1608
01:15:50,680 --> 01:15:52,400
Speaker 2: doing it, so that's encouraging. They're getting rid of the

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01:15:52,439 --> 01:15:55,559
Speaker 2: Royal Train, which I thought was sad because they've run

1610
01:15:55,560 --> 01:15:58,040
Speaker 2: a Royal trains into the eighteen hundreds. The three main

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01:15:58,080 --> 01:16:00,400
Speaker 2: sources of income and one I've got to look up

1612
01:16:00,400 --> 01:16:02,839
Speaker 2: because I'm not an expert on it, but the Sovereign Grant. Obviously,

1613
01:16:03,439 --> 01:16:06,439
Speaker 2: the Duchy of Cornwall we know about. There's a fascinating

1614
01:16:06,479 --> 01:16:09,360
Speaker 2: documentary that he turned King Charles Prince at the time

1615
01:16:09,760 --> 01:16:12,360
Speaker 2: took the Cornwall Duchy of Cornwall and made it profitable

1616
01:16:12,400 --> 01:16:15,240
Speaker 2: for the first time since ten sixty six. Since the

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01:16:15,320 --> 01:16:19,759
Speaker 2: year one thousand, it had never made a profit until

1618
01:16:19,880 --> 01:16:21,320
Speaker 2: Charles got hold of it and he turned the whole

1619
01:16:21,320 --> 01:16:23,559
Speaker 2: thing around. So there's cleverness. And the other thing is

1620
01:16:23,600 --> 01:16:26,799
Speaker 2: the Duchy of Lancaster. That's the one I'm not quite

1621
01:16:26,880 --> 01:16:30,280
Speaker 2: up on, but there's always room and time to learn more.

1622
01:16:30,280 --> 01:16:31,479
Speaker 2: Twenty two minutes away from.

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Speaker 14: Nine international correspondence with ends in eye insurance, Peace of

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01:16:36,040 --> 01:16:37,680
Speaker 14: mind for New Zealand business.

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01:16:37,600 --> 01:16:44,680
Speaker 2: Even morning good idea. This Victoria Indigenous Voice. Is this

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01:16:44,760 --> 01:16:47,720
Speaker 2: a vote? Is it a rule or an edict? And

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01:16:47,800 --> 01:16:50,479
Speaker 2: if it's an edict, in what form does it take?

1628
01:16:51,040 --> 01:16:54,439
Speaker 2: And how does it dubtail specifically for you versus anybody

1629
01:16:54,439 --> 01:16:56,400
Speaker 2: else anywhere else in Australia. And do you have to

1630
01:16:56,439 --> 01:16:58,559
Speaker 2: act differently if you turn up in Victoria as opposed

1631
01:16:58,600 --> 01:16:59,479
Speaker 2: to New South Wales.

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01:17:00,400 --> 01:17:03,439
Speaker 4: So many questions and certain little answers, but none of

1633
01:17:03,479 --> 01:17:07,759
Speaker 4: this surprised you, like or your audience. So just quickly

1634
01:17:08,000 --> 01:17:12,360
Speaker 4: Astraight devoted sixty forty against installing a voice into the

1635
01:17:12,400 --> 01:17:17,080
Speaker 4: Federal Constitution. That happened two years ago. But in Victoria

1636
01:17:17,640 --> 01:17:21,280
Speaker 4: they plaied on ahead regardless. This is the Victorian so

1637
01:17:21,439 --> 01:17:25,240
Speaker 4: hard socialist left labor government. And yesterday something called the

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01:17:25,320 --> 01:17:29,280
Speaker 4: Yuruk Commission's final report was tabled in State Parliament. It's

1639
01:17:29,320 --> 01:17:32,840
Speaker 4: taken four years to put together, has been put together

1640
01:17:32,880 --> 01:17:35,280
Speaker 4: by a group of thirty three people, each paid one

1641
01:17:35,320 --> 01:17:38,599
Speaker 4: hundred thousand dollars and they've had about sixty five million

1642
01:17:38,680 --> 01:17:41,040
Speaker 4: from the state government to play with to put this

1643
01:17:41,120 --> 01:17:44,479
Speaker 4: all in place. And we learned today that after it

1644
01:17:44,520 --> 01:17:48,679
Speaker 4: was tabled in parliament yesterday, Indigenous Victorians, according to this

1645
01:17:49,040 --> 01:17:53,559
Speaker 4: report should be offered tax relief, cash compensation have land

1646
01:17:53,560 --> 01:17:56,000
Speaker 4: handed back to them to make up for the impact

1647
01:17:56,040 --> 01:18:00,120
Speaker 4: of colonization. It goes on to suggest a string of

1648
01:18:00,200 --> 01:18:04,640
Speaker 4: financial benefits to quote make amends for injustices that have

1649
01:18:04,720 --> 01:18:07,920
Speaker 4: occurred during colonization, as a call for the Victorian government

1650
01:18:08,200 --> 01:18:12,439
Speaker 4: to acknowledge responsibility for the wrongs of its predecessors, and

1651
01:18:12,560 --> 01:18:17,120
Speaker 4: the other radical proposals for sweeping change the education system.

1652
01:18:17,160 --> 01:18:19,360
Speaker 4: Guess what they want to do in the education system.

1653
01:18:19,760 --> 01:18:25,000
Speaker 4: I'd like to tell me Indigenous children from attendance, can

1654
01:18:25,000 --> 01:18:25,639
Speaker 4: you believe that?

1655
01:18:25,960 --> 01:18:29,800
Speaker 2: Well, funnily enough, knowing Victoria quite well, yes I can. Unfortunately,

1656
01:18:30,160 --> 01:18:33,640
Speaker 2: if once this is implemented and given Australia statewide is

1657
01:18:33,720 --> 01:18:37,320
Speaker 2: run largely by Labor, do you see another state going

1658
01:18:37,400 --> 01:18:38,680
Speaker 2: or tell you what, we'll have a piece of this

1659
01:18:38,760 --> 01:18:40,240
Speaker 2: as well, or is it just too radical?

1660
01:18:41,040 --> 01:18:43,720
Speaker 4: Well, Queen Lam are on the road. And then of

1661
01:18:43,720 --> 01:18:46,680
Speaker 4: course the Labor government was booted out and it's now

1662
01:18:46,720 --> 01:18:50,640
Speaker 4: run by the Liberal National Party. South Australia has a

1663
01:18:50,680 --> 01:18:54,600
Speaker 4: more moderate Labor premier, but within the ranks of the

1664
01:18:54,680 --> 01:18:57,400
Speaker 4: Labor Party in South Australia and South Australia has quite

1665
01:18:57,400 --> 01:19:00,360
Speaker 4: a large indigenous population to bear by the states, they

1666
01:19:00,400 --> 01:19:02,200
Speaker 4: look like they might go down that path as well.

1667
01:19:02,400 --> 01:19:04,760
Speaker 4: Wa won't. I don't think New South Wales will, But

1668
01:19:05,320 --> 01:19:08,519
Speaker 4: I mean, how can you. Victory voted fifty six percent

1669
01:19:08,640 --> 01:19:12,160
Speaker 4: no to the Oyster Park, so there's this Eural commission

1670
01:19:12,400 --> 01:19:14,960
Speaker 4: and on top of that they want a permanent voice

1671
01:19:15,479 --> 01:19:18,360
Speaker 4: inside the Victorian Parliament. The premier looks like doing that.

1672
01:19:18,640 --> 01:19:21,120
Speaker 4: She's got another year in about four months until the

1673
01:19:21,160 --> 01:19:24,639
Speaker 4: next election, so she can put this all in place. Now.

1674
01:19:24,640 --> 01:19:26,360
Speaker 4: The Liberals are saying they would throw it out if

1675
01:19:26,400 --> 01:19:28,840
Speaker 4: they win that election and they Rember next year, but

1676
01:19:29,080 --> 01:19:31,760
Speaker 4: you know, good luck trying to do that. If it's

1677
01:19:31,760 --> 01:19:34,200
Speaker 4: been legislator. This is just to extraordinary. What's going on.

1678
01:19:34,200 --> 01:19:38,040
Speaker 2: It's amazing. I know, it's God bless you don't normally

1679
01:19:38,280 --> 01:19:41,599
Speaker 2: we in this country make, especially the digital media, make

1680
01:19:41,720 --> 01:19:44,000
Speaker 2: the most ridiculous thing out of the weather every time

1681
01:19:44,040 --> 01:19:48,599
Speaker 2: it blows. It's like orange alerts, Red alerts were obsessed

1682
01:19:48,640 --> 01:19:51,519
Speaker 2: with weather and I don't see it as much in Australia.

1683
01:19:51,520 --> 01:19:53,280
Speaker 2: But you seem this week to have made a philly

1684
01:19:53,280 --> 01:19:55,639
Speaker 2: big deal of this bomb cyclone. How bad is it?

1685
01:19:56,520 --> 01:19:58,920
Speaker 4: Well, you and I've had this discussion before. It's clickbait

1686
01:19:59,000 --> 01:20:02,280
Speaker 4: most of this. I mean, it is bad, but the

1687
01:20:02,400 --> 01:20:04,840
Speaker 4: lead up to it is hysterical. I mean it's just

1688
01:20:04,920 --> 01:20:09,640
Speaker 4: crazy maps with red dots on them and yellow arrows

1689
01:20:09,680 --> 01:20:12,320
Speaker 4: saying the wind's coming. But we do have five million

1690
01:20:12,320 --> 01:20:14,920
Speaker 4: people forced to take shel to thirty thousand homes. This

1691
01:20:14,960 --> 01:20:19,400
Speaker 4: is the latest from overnight, mostly concentrated south of Sydney

1692
01:20:19,800 --> 01:20:22,519
Speaker 4: and on the central coast north of Sydney, that winds

1693
01:20:22,600 --> 01:20:24,479
Speaker 4: up to one hundred and twenty five kilometers. And how

1694
01:20:24,520 --> 01:20:28,040
Speaker 4: that means. I think yesterday there was twenty flights canceled,

1695
01:20:28,040 --> 01:20:30,720
Speaker 4: which in the scope of things is not huge when

1696
01:20:30,720 --> 01:20:32,599
Speaker 4: you consider how many flights going in out of Sydney

1697
01:20:32,600 --> 01:20:35,719
Speaker 4: Airport on a given day Coffs Harbor on the North

1698
01:20:35,760 --> 01:20:39,160
Speaker 4: that you'd know of. They've been urged to avoid non

1699
01:20:39,280 --> 01:20:43,920
Speaker 4: essential travel. The rail networks also being impacted. Sees really

1700
01:20:43,920 --> 01:20:47,000
Speaker 4: doesn't know what the impact will be until I get

1701
01:20:47,040 --> 01:20:50,439
Speaker 4: first light this morning. When I went off air on

1702
01:20:50,479 --> 01:20:53,880
Speaker 4: sky yesterday, there was about twenty thousand homes that were

1703
01:20:53,920 --> 01:20:58,200
Speaker 4: already without power. So is it bad? Yes? Is it catastrophic?

1704
01:20:58,360 --> 01:20:58,439
Speaker 5: No?

1705
01:20:59,120 --> 01:21:01,120
Speaker 4: Is it as bad as and the floodsit New South

1706
01:21:01,120 --> 01:21:04,559
Speaker 4: Wales earlier this year, back in twenty twenty two. Not yet.

1707
01:21:04,920 --> 01:21:09,080
Speaker 4: So I suggest to you that it's a big, big

1708
01:21:09,200 --> 01:21:12,840
Speaker 4: winter storm, but it's not a bomb cyclone by any measure.

1709
01:21:12,920 --> 01:21:16,680
Speaker 2: No, exactly. Jury has been disappointing because it's Wednesday and

1710
01:21:16,760 --> 01:21:18,680
Speaker 2: they've not come to the party. You're still holding out

1711
01:21:18,680 --> 01:21:19,320
Speaker 2: for not guilty.

1712
01:21:20,120 --> 01:21:21,800
Speaker 4: Do we get the tape out? What did you say

1713
01:21:21,840 --> 01:21:23,479
Speaker 4: forty five minutes? Didn't you on Monday?

1714
01:21:23,560 --> 01:21:23,680
Speaker 15: Well?

1715
01:21:23,720 --> 01:21:25,760
Speaker 2: I thought they. I thought it wouldn't mind you that

1716
01:21:25,800 --> 01:21:27,599
Speaker 2: it was late Monday. To be fair to them, they

1717
01:21:27,600 --> 01:21:29,000
Speaker 2: only really had all day yesterday.

1718
01:21:29,000 --> 01:21:32,240
Speaker 4: Didn't they play the tape anyway? No, they're not back.

1719
01:21:33,439 --> 01:21:36,400
Speaker 4: We've got twelve jurors sequested in a local hotel in

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Speaker 4: more Well, and they will be back this morning at

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Speaker 4: ten o'clock. They sit between ten and one. They then

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Speaker 4: have lunch and then they sit till four point thirty.

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Speaker 4: Aaron Patterson, of course denies all charges. Have been charged

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Speaker 4: with three council murder. What an attempt to murder? I

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Speaker 4: note at her house and she obviously believes all her

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Speaker 4: supporters believe she will be cleared as I potentially douse

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Speaker 4: has been now draped with black plastic because you will

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Speaker 4: have seen the famous vision of her arriving home the

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Speaker 4: TV reporters to send on a shove microphones in her

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Speaker 4: face and she tries to shut the front door. That

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Speaker 4: won't happen this time. The house is covered, as I said,

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Speaker 4: in black plastic, so she can get in and out.

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Speaker 4: Her only problem for her and is I note that

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Speaker 4: the front gate is a normal farming front gate where

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Speaker 4: you have a lock on it, So you're going to

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Speaker 4: have to get out of your car and unlock the gate.

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Speaker 4: So I'm not sure how that's going to work. Interesting,

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Speaker 4: but we will wait and see your wife's correct. I'm correct,

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Speaker 4: you're not and will probably get a verdict sometime next week.

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Speaker 2: Good luck, and you won't be here because you're off

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01:22:38,520 --> 01:22:42,240
Speaker 2: another one of your exotic sojos. When you go golfing internationally,

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01:22:42,280 --> 01:22:44,080
Speaker 2: do you take your own clubs?

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Speaker 4: Of course you can't play with some of US's clubs.

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01:22:46,040 --> 01:22:47,040
Speaker 4: That would be ridiculous.

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Speaker 2: And do you find that cumbersome in any way, shape

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Speaker 2: or form or not?

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01:22:49,640 --> 01:22:52,240
Speaker 4: Really, I've got a little man who carries my bag

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Speaker 4: for me. It's called a caddy.

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Speaker 2: Ye fair enough to good on, you have a good time.

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Speaker 2: We'll catch up soon. Steve Price out of Australia for

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Speaker 2: you this morning eight forty five.

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Speaker 1: The Like Asking Breakfast Fall Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered

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01:23:04,800 --> 01:23:07,519
Speaker 1: by News Talks that be in Australia.

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Speaker 2: The worried at the moment about a twenty seven billion

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01:23:09,880 --> 01:23:12,799
Speaker 2: dollar collapse and then come from their major experts, experts

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01:23:12,840 --> 01:23:16,120
Speaker 2: which are liquefied gas, iron or this is the problem

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01:23:16,200 --> 01:23:19,840
Speaker 2: being Trump and tariffs of course, and it's really through

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Speaker 2: the biggest Asian buyers. And when the Asian buyers get squeezed,

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Speaker 2: their economies get squeezed. As the economy gets squeezed, then

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Speaker 2: they don't buy as much of the old stuff. Hence

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01:23:28,120 --> 01:23:32,040
Speaker 2: Australia is going to get whacked. Revenue now projected to

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01:23:32,080 --> 01:23:34,880
Speaker 2: decline more sharply than the government had been expecting just

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Speaker 2: three months ago. Iron Ore runing set to fall by

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Speaker 2: twenty billion from one sixteen to ninety six billion within

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01:23:40,000 --> 01:23:41,760
Speaker 2: two years. Ellen g is on track to four from

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Speaker 2: sixty to fifty three. So mind you the house of

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Speaker 2: a price, price of a house is going through the roof.

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01:23:47,520 --> 01:23:51,360
Speaker 2: No pun intended set to continue climbing. Numbers out yesterday

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01:23:51,360 --> 01:23:54,920
Speaker 2: set to continued climbing latter half of this year. Every

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01:23:55,120 --> 01:23:59,760
Speaker 2: corner of the country recorded growth in June. This from cautality,

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01:24:00,360 --> 01:24:03,040
Speaker 2: fifth month in a row zero point six percent on

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01:24:03,120 --> 01:24:04,960
Speaker 2: average in June one point four percent across the quarter

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Speaker 2: to twelve months three point four percent. Medium values now

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01:24:07,120 --> 01:24:10,120
Speaker 2: eight thirty six. The average value of the house in

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Speaker 2: Australias now is I've told you a number of times

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Speaker 2: cracked a million police in Singapore. Now, I don't know

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01:24:14,880 --> 01:24:17,559
Speaker 2: why we don't do this one of many things I

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01:24:17,560 --> 01:24:19,120
Speaker 2: could say that they do in Singapore that I don't

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01:24:19,120 --> 01:24:20,759
Speaker 2: know why we don't do in New Zealand. But scams

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01:24:20,760 --> 01:24:23,000
Speaker 2: are an issue. Scams are an issue in Singapore. They're

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01:24:23,000 --> 01:24:26,599
Speaker 2: an issue here record one point one billion in twenty

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01:24:26,600 --> 01:24:28,920
Speaker 2: twenty four in terms of scams. So what they've passed

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01:24:28,920 --> 01:24:31,759
Speaker 2: a law that now allows the police to seize control

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01:24:31,760 --> 01:24:35,720
Speaker 2: of the view Bank account basically block money any transfers

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01:24:35,760 --> 01:24:38,080
Speaker 2: if they suspect that there's something going wrong there a

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01:24:38,160 --> 01:24:40,200
Speaker 2: common cause. This is interesting. I don't know if this

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01:24:40,280 --> 01:24:42,800
Speaker 2: is the same here. A common court issue is that

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01:24:42,960 --> 01:24:47,519
Speaker 2: victims often refuse to believe they're actually being scammed. So

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01:24:47,600 --> 01:24:49,880
Speaker 2: when you go you realize this is a red flag

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01:24:49,960 --> 01:24:52,400
Speaker 2: you are being sucked at, and don't you they go, no, no, no,

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Speaker 2: I'm not so it's the Protection from Scams Act. Police

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01:24:56,200 --> 01:24:58,960
Speaker 2: can also block a potential victim's use of ATMs and

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Speaker 2: credit services as well.

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Speaker 4: Well.

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Speaker 2: There's a little bit of argument around it being a

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01:25:02,320 --> 01:25:06,519
Speaker 2: bit overreach, overreaching, but in general, if they can get

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Speaker 2: on top of it, why wouldn't you, And if they

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01:25:08,040 --> 01:25:09,680
Speaker 2: can get on top of it and it's effective, why

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Speaker 2: wouldn't we look at doing it here? Apart from the

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Speaker 2: fact we're too scared to do stuff like that, we

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01:25:13,520 --> 01:25:15,960
Speaker 2: just want to run into stories about how people keep

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01:25:15,960 --> 01:25:18,800
Speaker 2: getting scammed. Nine minutes away from nine the.

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Speaker 1: Mike asking breakfast with Bailey's real estate news talks there be.

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Speaker 2: They got a partial verdict in the Diddy trial, by

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01:25:25,240 --> 01:25:27,800
Speaker 2: the way, so they're all filing back into courtneyll hear that.

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Speaker 2: I'm assuming the partial verdict is the number of charges

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01:25:31,360 --> 01:25:33,519
Speaker 2: that they've decided on versus the number of charges they

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01:25:33,520 --> 01:25:36,280
Speaker 2: haven't decided on. Racketeering is the big one. We haven't

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01:25:36,320 --> 01:25:39,720
Speaker 2: really followed it that much in this country, but it's internationally.

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01:25:39,760 --> 01:25:44,760
Speaker 2: It's a big deal, by the way. James Bond, Jacob

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Speaker 2: l Lordie, Tom Holland, who as far as I can work,

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01:25:49,600 --> 01:25:51,560
Speaker 2: has been in the list the whole time. And Harrison

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01:25:52,000 --> 01:25:56,360
Speaker 2: Harrison Dickinson, Harris Dickinson from Baby Gil, which apparently was

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01:25:56,400 --> 01:26:02,000
Speaker 2: complete crap, just crap beyond crap. Old Lordies from Saltburn.

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01:26:02,080 --> 01:26:04,920
Speaker 2: That was good. Spider Man, I've not seen, but people

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01:26:05,000 --> 01:26:08,200
Speaker 2: like Tom Holland they're down. That's the final three, allegedly

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01:26:08,240 --> 01:26:12,920
Speaker 2: according to Variety magazine, but he wouldn't know. Mike. Is

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Speaker 2: there a media band while the jury are deliberating Victoria? Yes,

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01:26:15,520 --> 01:26:18,960
Speaker 2: same rules here as there and there is here. You

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01:26:19,000 --> 01:26:21,160
Speaker 2: can't go around saying I think she's guilty. Stuff like that.

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Speaker 2: I read yesterday and was speaking of things like Singapore

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Speaker 2: and why don't we do more often? I didn't realize this,

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Speaker 2: but Fiji Airways, this is just holiday talk. Fiji Airways

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01:26:31,800 --> 01:26:33,519
Speaker 2: are part of a consortium that own a bunch of

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01:26:33,520 --> 01:26:36,960
Speaker 2: hotels on dinner right Fiji, so fatel sheretan Hilton. So

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Speaker 2: they're running this thing now, which is what they call

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Speaker 2: a resort chicken, which means you check in at your

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Speaker 2: hotel and then you just hang around all day and

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01:26:45,680 --> 01:26:47,559
Speaker 2: swim and eat and do whatever you do in Fiji,

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01:26:47,920 --> 01:26:49,800
Speaker 2: and then one hour before you need to get to

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01:26:49,800 --> 01:26:51,080
Speaker 2: the airport, you go to the airport and gum and

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01:26:51,080 --> 01:26:52,759
Speaker 2: your planet's the end of the that. Why doesn't everyone

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01:26:52,760 --> 01:26:56,519
Speaker 2: do that? I mean, that's from the Department of Good Ideas.

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01:26:56,760 --> 01:27:00,000
Speaker 2: Why doesn't everybody? Why doesn't every resort or hotel simple

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01:27:00,200 --> 01:27:02,840
Speaker 2: go chicken here and then just roll out to the

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01:27:02,880 --> 01:27:04,720
Speaker 2: airport instead of waiting for three or four hours in an

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Speaker 2: airport that doesn't function normally. Just asking five minutes away

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Speaker 2: from nine.

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Speaker 1: Trending now with Chemist Warehouse celebrate big brands and biggest savings.

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Speaker 2: So trump'spin and Florida's today looking at Alligator Alcatraz and

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01:27:19,000 --> 01:27:23,960
Speaker 2: so some weird stuff happened, not surprisingly, including the idea

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Speaker 2: that it's not just Ice chasing illegal migrants. There might

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01:27:27,320 --> 01:27:28,080
Speaker 2: be others as well.

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Speaker 6: But we also have a lot of bad people that

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01:27:29,720 --> 01:27:32,280
Speaker 6: have been here for a long time. People that whack

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01:27:32,360 --> 01:27:34,679
Speaker 6: people over the head with a baseball bat from behind

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01:27:34,720 --> 01:27:37,719
Speaker 6: when they're not looking and kill them. People that napew

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01:27:37,800 --> 01:27:40,920
Speaker 6: when you're walking down the street. They're not new to

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Speaker 6: our country. They're all to our country. Many of them

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Speaker 6: are born in our country. I think we already get

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Speaker 6: them the hell out of here too. You want to

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01:27:46,720 --> 01:27:48,639
Speaker 6: know the truth. So maybe they'll be the next job

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01:27:48,680 --> 01:27:49,759
Speaker 6: that we'll work on together.

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Speaker 2: So what he's referring to there, I'm sure is third country.

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01:27:52,240 --> 01:27:54,800
Speaker 2: So they're negotiating with a number of the Albania was

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01:27:54,840 --> 01:27:56,800
Speaker 2: one to remember. Italy had Albania the deal with the

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Speaker 2: UK and Rwanda. He'll be negotiating with a third country

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01:28:00,720 --> 01:28:04,800
Speaker 2: to just ship people out and park them for money.

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Speaker 2: He also started talking about econditioning.

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Speaker 6: Biden wanted me in here. Okay, he wanted me. It

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01:28:11,040 --> 01:28:14,520
Speaker 6: didn't work out that way, but he wanted me in here.

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Speaker 2: What's they got to do with their conditioning?

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Speaker 16: Wow? Because it was hot, I wasn't.

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Speaker 2: Which in Florida. He would already know that, wouldn't he

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01:28:22,520 --> 01:28:24,920
Speaker 2: some advice on how to outrun an alligator?

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Speaker 15: Stay so fast?

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Speaker 6: But alligender is But we're going to teach them how

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Speaker 6: to run away from an alligator.

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Speaker 16: Okay, if they escaped.

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01:28:33,000 --> 01:28:34,519
Speaker 6: Prison, how to run away.

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Speaker 17: Don't run in a straight.

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Speaker 6: Line, run like this, and you know what, your chance

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Speaker 6: has gone for about one percent.

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Speaker 2: He's waving his hand. How does he know that? God,

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01:28:45,320 --> 01:28:48,960
Speaker 2: he's bright. Isn't he know so many fun facts? By

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Speaker 2: the way, Jason ell Dean, is that tomorrow? Yeah, Jason

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01:28:52,640 --> 01:28:55,519
Speaker 2: Eldan tomorrow He's the biggest noise?

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01:28:55,680 --> 01:28:55,920
Speaker 6: Wow?

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01:28:56,200 --> 01:28:57,760
Speaker 2: Is he? Shall I ask him that?

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01:28:57,800 --> 01:28:58,160
Speaker 19: Actually?

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01:28:58,560 --> 01:29:01,360
Speaker 2: Are you the biggest noise in one country music artist

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01:29:01,400 --> 01:29:04,280
Speaker 2: of the decade? Which is quite something. But if I

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01:29:04,360 --> 01:29:06,799
Speaker 2: go to him, are you as big as Luke Colmbs

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01:29:06,880 --> 01:29:09,280
Speaker 2: or are you bigger than Luke Colmes? Or were were reckon?

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01:29:09,360 --> 01:29:11,360
Speaker 2: We reckon? That's the game. I don't know. We've been

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01:29:11,400 --> 01:29:13,240
Speaker 2: around a long time and he's cutting the point being

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01:29:13,280 --> 01:29:17,000
Speaker 2: he's coming here. He's on his full throttle tour, which

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01:29:17,040 --> 01:29:19,120
Speaker 2: is global tour at the moment. But yesterday they added

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01:29:19,120 --> 01:29:21,880
Speaker 2: New Zealand and Australia, so that's a bit exciting. So

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01:29:22,000 --> 01:29:23,680
Speaker 2: we thought, well, if he's coming here, we may as

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01:29:23,720 --> 01:29:26,559
Speaker 2: well interview the Blake, so he's on the program tomorrow.

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01:29:26,720 --> 01:29:28,360
Speaker 2: As it turns out of my so it all works

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01:29:28,360 --> 01:29:34,120
Speaker 2: out well from six as always, Happy Days.

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