1 00:00:01,960 --> 00:00:06,480 Speaker 1: The issues, the ins and the inside. Ryan Bridge on 2 00:00:06,680 --> 00:00:10,680 Speaker 1: early edition with one roof make your property search simple 3 00:00:11,280 --> 00:00:11,879 Speaker 1: news dogs. 4 00:00:11,880 --> 00:00:15,320 Speaker 2: That'd be good morning, Welcome to your Thursday. Parliament is 5 00:00:15,520 --> 00:00:19,480 Speaker 2: an absolute shambles. We've got the C word, we've got 6 00:00:19,520 --> 00:00:22,799 Speaker 2: the one gun salute from Debbie and now a three 7 00:00:22,800 --> 00:00:26,000 Speaker 2: week suspension. We go to someone sensible in times like these, 8 00:00:26,000 --> 00:00:28,800 Speaker 2: don't we? So lockwood Smith joins us first up and live. 9 00:00:29,600 --> 00:00:31,960 Speaker 2: We are looking at the suicide stance. We're looking at 10 00:00:31,960 --> 00:00:36,880 Speaker 2: the migration numbers. Putin is leaving. Zelensky on Red won't 11 00:00:36,920 --> 00:00:39,520 Speaker 2: reply to his request for a meeting. He's just sitting 12 00:00:39,560 --> 00:00:42,920 Speaker 2: there waiting. We'll head to the US as well. And 13 00:00:43,000 --> 00:00:44,720 Speaker 2: we've got an update on the working for the work 14 00:00:44,840 --> 00:00:47,440 Speaker 2: from home things still dragging on. I'll update you on 15 00:00:47,440 --> 00:00:49,320 Speaker 2: that a little later in the program. It is seven 16 00:00:49,360 --> 00:00:54,840 Speaker 2: after five the agenda, Thursday, the fifteenth of May. Trump's 17 00:00:54,840 --> 00:00:57,600 Speaker 2: hop from Saudi Arabia to Read and Kata. Another day, 18 00:00:57,600 --> 00:00:59,560 Speaker 2: another deal, this one for Boeing jets. 19 00:01:00,040 --> 00:01:02,720 Speaker 3: It's the largest order of jets in the history of Boeing. 20 00:01:02,800 --> 00:01:05,240 Speaker 3: That's pretty good. Get those planes out there. 21 00:01:05,240 --> 00:01:07,399 Speaker 2: Get them out there. We told you he lifted sanctions 22 00:01:07,400 --> 00:01:10,440 Speaker 2: on Syria yesterday, well overnight he's met with its interim leader. 23 00:01:10,480 --> 00:01:13,280 Speaker 2: He's shaking hands with the guy and this is Ahmid alstra. 24 00:01:13,600 --> 00:01:17,040 Speaker 4: This is a big breakthrough for Syria and for Syrian 25 00:01:17,080 --> 00:01:20,640 Speaker 4: President Ahmed al Strada, who is still on the terrorist 26 00:01:20,760 --> 00:01:23,720 Speaker 4: list of the United States. Meeting with the US president 27 00:01:24,520 --> 00:01:28,440 Speaker 4: give him a recognition by the international community. But also, 28 00:01:28,959 --> 00:01:32,160 Speaker 4: you know, lifting sanctions on Syria is going to help 29 00:01:32,240 --> 00:01:34,640 Speaker 4: him work on the promises that he gave to the 30 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:35,440 Speaker 4: Syrian people. 31 00:01:35,840 --> 00:01:38,120 Speaker 2: Yes, so he's a terrorist and Trump said something funny 32 00:01:38,120 --> 00:01:39,920 Speaker 2: about him. I'llpli it for you later. That did he 33 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:42,720 Speaker 2: trial The ex girlfriend Cassey Venture is giving evidence. 34 00:01:43,040 --> 00:01:43,960 Speaker 5: That's something that. 35 00:01:43,800 --> 00:01:47,360 Speaker 6: The defense in this case was actually hoping to address. 36 00:01:47,440 --> 00:01:50,040 Speaker 6: They asked the judge of it if they could have 37 00:01:50,320 --> 00:01:53,640 Speaker 6: the witness referring to Cassie Venture at the time in 38 00:01:53,680 --> 00:01:56,400 Speaker 6: the witness box before the jury was brought in so 39 00:01:56,400 --> 00:02:00,240 Speaker 6: they could avoid the jury seeing her with her did 40 00:02:00,320 --> 00:02:03,120 Speaker 6: belly saying that pregnancy is a beautiful thing, but it 41 00:02:03,160 --> 00:02:05,400 Speaker 6: could also create feelings of sympathy. 42 00:02:05,480 --> 00:02:07,040 Speaker 2: Yes, so that was referring to the fact she was 43 00:02:07,080 --> 00:02:10,160 Speaker 2: pregnant now across the coast in California. But then there 44 00:02:10,240 --> 00:02:13,239 Speaker 2: is the Menindas brothers famous case killed their parents with 45 00:02:13,280 --> 00:02:15,800 Speaker 2: a shotgun in their living room in Beverly Hills. If 46 00:02:15,800 --> 00:02:19,639 Speaker 2: you've seen a Netflix special, A judge has reduced their sentence. 47 00:02:19,680 --> 00:02:21,640 Speaker 2: They're now going to be eligible for parole. 48 00:02:22,280 --> 00:02:24,120 Speaker 3: Well, we heard from family members. We heard from a 49 00:02:24,160 --> 00:02:28,120 Speaker 3: cousin who said that the family now has universally forgiven 50 00:02:28,160 --> 00:02:31,200 Speaker 3: the brothers. The family says thirty five years behind bars 51 00:02:31,240 --> 00:02:33,640 Speaker 3: is enough. They have paid their debt and they deserve 52 00:02:33,760 --> 00:02:35,399 Speaker 3: a second chance at life. 53 00:02:35,480 --> 00:02:38,880 Speaker 2: These guys could be out as early as next month. 54 00:02:39,040 --> 00:02:41,839 Speaker 2: Nine Ouster five the first. 55 00:02:41,560 --> 00:02:44,640 Speaker 1: Word on the News of the Day Early edition with 56 00:02:44,880 --> 00:02:48,800 Speaker 1: Ryan Bridge and One Room to make your Property search symbol, 57 00:02:49,240 --> 00:02:50,160 Speaker 1: News Talk Zippy. 58 00:02:58,639 --> 00:03:01,560 Speaker 2: So we've got a response from the Privileges Committee to 59 00:03:01,639 --> 00:03:04,560 Speaker 2: all of this. Debid Arwity and Hannah from Departy Marti 60 00:03:04,600 --> 00:03:08,720 Speaker 2: will miss the budget. Debbie and Albiti get three weeks suspension. 61 00:03:08,919 --> 00:03:13,119 Speaker 2: Hannah gets seven days. This has taken ages to get 62 00:03:13,120 --> 00:03:16,400 Speaker 2: through the Privileges Committee. Six months. It has taken them 63 00:03:16,440 --> 00:03:18,000 Speaker 2: and part of the problem is the fact that they 64 00:03:18,040 --> 00:03:20,320 Speaker 2: didn't turn up. So they made all these claims in 65 00:03:20,360 --> 00:03:23,880 Speaker 2: the media about you know, colonization or we're not being 66 00:03:23,919 --> 00:03:28,720 Speaker 2: given due process. There's double Jeffarty because Hannah had already 67 00:03:28,720 --> 00:03:31,359 Speaker 2: been censured with that double jeopety doesn't exist with the 68 00:03:31,400 --> 00:03:35,600 Speaker 2: Privileges Committee. It's not a court anyway. So finally we 69 00:03:35,680 --> 00:03:38,080 Speaker 2: have a result from the Privileges Committee. And to be clear, 70 00:03:38,520 --> 00:03:41,880 Speaker 2: DeBie wasn't given the boot because she performed a hakker. 71 00:03:42,880 --> 00:03:45,280 Speaker 2: It was because, and this is what Judith Collins said, 72 00:03:45,520 --> 00:03:47,520 Speaker 2: who held a presser at Parliament last night, it was 73 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:52,320 Speaker 2: because she intimidated or had the effect of intimidating other 74 00:03:52,520 --> 00:03:53,840 Speaker 2: MPs in their workplace. 75 00:03:54,160 --> 00:03:57,960 Speaker 7: As Narivapaka approached the front of the act Party desks 76 00:03:58,320 --> 00:04:01,680 Speaker 7: and while performing the harker, pointed at act Party members 77 00:04:02,240 --> 00:04:07,080 Speaker 7: using a hand gesture similar to a finger gun. At 78 00:04:07,120 --> 00:04:10,560 Speaker 7: the conclusion of the harker, Miss Naripaka repeated the gesture 79 00:04:11,080 --> 00:04:15,040 Speaker 7: and simulating a firing motion, said and no will sit down. 80 00:04:15,320 --> 00:04:18,040 Speaker 2: Now, Judy's been around a while, she reconciates seeing nothing 81 00:04:18,160 --> 00:04:18,440 Speaker 2: like it. 82 00:04:19,440 --> 00:04:22,400 Speaker 7: Make no mistake, this was a very serious incident and 83 00:04:22,440 --> 00:04:27,320 Speaker 7: the likes of which I have never seen before in 84 00:04:27,400 --> 00:04:31,040 Speaker 7: my twenty three years in debating chamber. I am a 85 00:04:31,160 --> 00:04:35,080 Speaker 7: robust debater, as many of you will know, but I 86 00:04:35,120 --> 00:04:37,880 Speaker 7: follow the rule of the Institution. I'm a proud member 87 00:04:37,960 --> 00:04:41,040 Speaker 7: of and I appreciate and accept that my views are 88 00:04:41,080 --> 00:04:44,480 Speaker 7: not those of all in the House. That is why 89 00:04:44,520 --> 00:04:48,480 Speaker 7: we are a House of Representatives. We cannot bring this 90 00:04:48,520 --> 00:04:52,280 Speaker 7: House into disrepute by ignoring those rules, especially if that 91 00:04:52,360 --> 00:04:57,000 Speaker 7: results in other members being intimidated or maybe being intimidated. 92 00:04:57,400 --> 00:05:00,359 Speaker 7: And that is exactly what happened on November fourteenth, twenty 93 00:05:00,440 --> 00:05:02,160 Speaker 7: twenty four two questions. 94 00:05:02,240 --> 00:05:04,840 Speaker 2: Do they get full pay while they're off? No, they 95 00:05:04,880 --> 00:05:08,600 Speaker 2: won't get any pay. Has this happened before? Yes, Lockwood 96 00:05:08,600 --> 00:05:12,039 Speaker 2: Smith knows all about it. He's with us live next. 97 00:05:11,720 --> 00:05:16,080 Speaker 1: On your radio and online on iHeartRadio Early edition with 98 00:05:16,279 --> 00:05:20,200 Speaker 1: Ryan Bridge and one roof Make your property search simple 99 00:05:20,480 --> 00:05:21,760 Speaker 1: if you talk said. 100 00:05:21,520 --> 00:05:23,840 Speaker 2: Be don't worry. We'll get to the migration numbers, and 101 00:05:23,880 --> 00:05:28,680 Speaker 2: we'll also get to the Green Party's what do you 102 00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:32,520 Speaker 2: even call that? The communist manifesto as Winston would put it. 103 00:05:32,920 --> 00:05:34,720 Speaker 2: We'll get to that in just a few moments. Right now, 104 00:05:34,760 --> 00:05:37,600 Speaker 2: thirteen minutes after five so three weeks suspension from parliament 105 00:05:37,640 --> 00:05:40,440 Speaker 2: without pay for arbit again, Debbie Hanna gets seven days. 106 00:05:40,520 --> 00:05:43,839 Speaker 2: They'll miss the budget and last night the Malori Party 107 00:05:43,880 --> 00:05:45,800 Speaker 2: posted on their social media and this is part of 108 00:05:45,839 --> 00:05:49,160 Speaker 2: the problem that for to party Marti, when you lose, 109 00:05:49,720 --> 00:05:52,280 Speaker 2: you actually win. I mean, they're not ashamed by any 110 00:05:52,320 --> 00:05:55,200 Speaker 2: of this they have posted on their social media. This 111 00:05:55,240 --> 00:05:58,080 Speaker 2: is the worst punishment handed down ever in our history. 112 00:05:58,160 --> 00:06:01,080 Speaker 2: The worst on record was three days when Tangata Fenua 113 00:06:01,320 --> 00:06:05,520 Speaker 2: resist colonial powers reached for maximum penalty. This is a 114 00:06:05,560 --> 00:06:09,760 Speaker 2: warning shot to all of us to fall in line. Lockwoodsmith, 115 00:06:09,839 --> 00:06:11,960 Speaker 2: Sir Lockwoodsmith is the former Speaker of the House with 116 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:13,720 Speaker 2: me this morning, Sir lockwood Good morning. 117 00:06:14,480 --> 00:06:15,000 Speaker 8: Good morning. 118 00:06:15,040 --> 00:06:17,040 Speaker 2: Right is this a fair punishment you reckon? 119 00:06:18,480 --> 00:06:21,040 Speaker 8: Well, you know it's not up to me to comment 120 00:06:21,120 --> 00:06:23,600 Speaker 8: on whether it's fair or not. But you know, Parliament 121 00:06:23,680 --> 00:06:28,200 Speaker 8: has to maintain its procedures because it is a control 122 00:06:28,360 --> 00:06:31,000 Speaker 8: and control of its own law, its own rules, if 123 00:06:31,040 --> 00:06:35,960 Speaker 8: you like. The privileges that Parliament has are really really important. 124 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:38,240 Speaker 8: They make it possible for the lawmakers to do their 125 00:06:38,279 --> 00:06:45,840 Speaker 8: work and to intimidate another member of the House in 126 00:06:45,880 --> 00:06:49,159 Speaker 8: the process of carrying out their duties in the House. 127 00:06:49,640 --> 00:06:52,400 Speaker 8: There's a serious issue and it can't just be taken lightly. 128 00:06:52,560 --> 00:06:56,040 Speaker 8: So you know, suspension from the service of the House 129 00:06:56,120 --> 00:07:00,280 Speaker 8: is one of the outcomes the Privileges Committee has a 130 00:07:00,400 --> 00:07:02,880 Speaker 8: penalty it has to invoke. It can actually imprison people. 131 00:07:02,920 --> 00:07:05,680 Speaker 8: You know, I don't think. I don't think the Privilegeous 132 00:07:05,680 --> 00:07:09,040 Speaker 8: Committee or the Parliament New Zealand has ever imprisoned someone 133 00:07:09,080 --> 00:07:10,680 Speaker 8: for a contempt of the House. But it does have 134 00:07:10,760 --> 00:07:13,560 Speaker 8: that power. It is the power to find people and 135 00:07:13,600 --> 00:07:17,360 Speaker 8: the power to imprison people. But this suspension from the 136 00:07:17,400 --> 00:07:21,800 Speaker 8: service is the reasonably effective, hopefully reasonably effective effective deterrent. 137 00:07:22,160 --> 00:07:24,560 Speaker 2: Is this the worst punishment? I mean, are they right 138 00:07:24,600 --> 00:07:26,400 Speaker 2: when they say it's the worst punishment that's ever been 139 00:07:26,440 --> 00:07:28,560 Speaker 2: handed down? And what about missing the budget? 140 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:33,200 Speaker 8: Yeah? Well, I think, you know, people members of the 141 00:07:33,200 --> 00:07:38,080 Speaker 8: House need to think a little bit before they ignore 142 00:07:38,160 --> 00:07:42,800 Speaker 8: the rules of the House. I mean, it's for members 143 00:07:42,800 --> 00:07:45,760 Speaker 8: of the party, Maria, I see no reason why when 144 00:07:45,800 --> 00:07:49,239 Speaker 8: they're called on to speak. They have freedom of speech 145 00:07:49,320 --> 00:07:53,560 Speaker 8: and they can express their views in you know, in 146 00:07:53,680 --> 00:07:58,120 Speaker 8: ways there that they considered culturally appropriate. But to interfere 147 00:07:58,160 --> 00:08:01,360 Speaker 8: with the voting procedure in the and seet to intimidate 148 00:08:01,400 --> 00:08:06,320 Speaker 8: the member promoting a bill in the House is quite 149 00:08:06,320 --> 00:08:09,400 Speaker 8: a serious issue. And as I say, I don't think 150 00:08:09,600 --> 00:08:13,240 Speaker 8: the Privileges Committee has ever imprisoned anyone, and so this 151 00:08:13,400 --> 00:08:19,440 Speaker 8: is a pretty pretty severe penalty. Three weeks suspension and 152 00:08:19,520 --> 00:08:24,040 Speaker 8: missing the budget parts of the budget debate. I think 153 00:08:24,120 --> 00:08:26,360 Speaker 8: hopefully we'll make some people take notice. 154 00:08:26,480 --> 00:08:29,360 Speaker 2: It's interesting because the stunt in parliament. You can do 155 00:08:29,520 --> 00:08:32,680 Speaker 2: stunts in Parliament and we've all seen them. And we 156 00:08:32,800 --> 00:08:35,400 Speaker 2: had the c word yesterday from Brook van Valden, which 157 00:08:35,400 --> 00:08:39,440 Speaker 2: I'm sure you've seen, but that was a stunt that 158 00:08:39,679 --> 00:08:43,080 Speaker 2: was planned like to party Maldis. But Brooke went to 159 00:08:43,120 --> 00:08:45,040 Speaker 2: the clerk's office and said, can I say, you know, 160 00:08:45,200 --> 00:08:48,440 Speaker 2: basically ask permission to do the stunt first and therefore 161 00:08:48,840 --> 00:08:49,720 Speaker 2: avoid censure. 162 00:08:51,360 --> 00:08:53,720 Speaker 8: I think that's a good point Ryan, that you know, 163 00:08:53,920 --> 00:08:57,680 Speaker 8: a speaker wants the House fell to proceed in a 164 00:08:57,720 --> 00:09:00,560 Speaker 8: way that works for members and had to Artie Maori 165 00:09:00,640 --> 00:09:04,120 Speaker 8: gone to the speaker and said, you know, it would 166 00:09:04,120 --> 00:09:06,480 Speaker 8: there be a time when we could express our view 167 00:09:06,520 --> 00:09:12,280 Speaker 8: in an appropriate way with a haka. I can't believe 168 00:09:12,320 --> 00:09:14,960 Speaker 8: something couldn't have been worked out that would have been acceptable, 169 00:09:15,200 --> 00:09:19,640 Speaker 8: but just to interrupt the voting, the voting procedure on 170 00:09:19,679 --> 00:09:24,040 Speaker 8: a bill, and it passed through my mind. Had I 171 00:09:24,080 --> 00:09:29,760 Speaker 8: been the speaker, I probably would have simply having called 172 00:09:29,760 --> 00:09:34,240 Speaker 8: on them to express their vote recorded they hadn't voted, 173 00:09:34,360 --> 00:09:37,640 Speaker 8: and that Pardi Mari failed to vote against the treaty 174 00:09:37,640 --> 00:09:40,320 Speaker 8: Principal's bill and cleared the galleries. And I wouldn't have 175 00:09:40,320 --> 00:09:42,600 Speaker 8: suspended the House, so I would have kept the House going. 176 00:09:43,400 --> 00:09:47,800 Speaker 8: Keeping Parliament going is terribly important. But that's just my 177 00:09:47,920 --> 00:09:49,840 Speaker 8: personal view, all right. 178 00:09:49,920 --> 00:09:51,920 Speaker 2: I appreciate your time this morning. So lot with Smith's 179 00:09:51,920 --> 00:09:54,120 Speaker 2: former Speaker of the House. It's just gone eighteen minutes 180 00:09:54,120 --> 00:09:56,719 Speaker 2: half to five year on News Talks. Here'd be Boris Johnson. Interestingly, 181 00:09:57,400 --> 00:10:00,400 Speaker 2: before he left. Had he not left, he was going 182 00:10:00,440 --> 00:10:03,600 Speaker 2: to be suspended for ninety days the Privileges Committee in 183 00:10:03,600 --> 00:10:06,360 Speaker 2: the UK, and that would force a by election, which 184 00:10:06,440 --> 00:10:10,640 Speaker 2: is a much obviously bigger deal, more severe deal. Eighteen 185 00:10:10,640 --> 00:10:12,440 Speaker 2: after five News Talks said B. We'll get to those 186 00:10:12,480 --> 00:10:16,120 Speaker 2: migration numbers and a sad stat this morning on suicide. 187 00:10:16,240 --> 00:10:18,840 Speaker 2: It's all ahead news. 188 00:10:18,520 --> 00:10:22,040 Speaker 1: And views you trust to start your day's early editioned 189 00:10:22,040 --> 00:10:26,480 Speaker 1: with Ryan Bridge and One Room Make your Property Search Simple, 190 00:10:26,760 --> 00:10:27,360 Speaker 1: News Talks. 191 00:10:27,559 --> 00:10:30,439 Speaker 2: V we'll talk potins Zelenski just before six this morning. 192 00:10:30,480 --> 00:10:32,800 Speaker 2: Five twenty now, so we've got a union. The report 193 00:10:32,840 --> 00:10:35,160 Speaker 2: out and it's a pretty grim reading. If you're talking 194 00:10:35,240 --> 00:10:38,200 Speaker 2: about youth suicide in New Zealand compared to the rest 195 00:10:38,200 --> 00:10:39,880 Speaker 2: of the world, compared to rich countries and the rest 196 00:10:39,880 --> 00:10:42,640 Speaker 2: of the world anyway. So what it says is pre 197 00:10:42,840 --> 00:10:45,800 Speaker 2: COVID we had a rate of fourteen point nine per 198 00:10:45,840 --> 00:10:49,040 Speaker 2: one hundred thousand people. This is for fifteen to nineteen 199 00:10:49,080 --> 00:10:53,440 Speaker 2: year olds. After COVID it increased to seventeen point one, 200 00:10:54,040 --> 00:10:56,480 Speaker 2: which means we were the highest in the developed world 201 00:10:56,600 --> 00:11:00,400 Speaker 2: and almost three times higher than the average the high 202 00:11:00,480 --> 00:11:04,440 Speaker 2: income countries. Tanya Siwicky Mead is from UNIS with me 203 00:11:04,480 --> 00:11:08,120 Speaker 2: this morning. Tanya, good morning, Good morning. What do you 204 00:11:08,120 --> 00:11:10,040 Speaker 2: think pushed that up during COVID. 205 00:11:11,559 --> 00:11:13,800 Speaker 9: Yeah, Look, what we did see is that across a 206 00:11:13,800 --> 00:11:16,360 Speaker 9: lot of the countries analyzed in this report that you 207 00:11:16,400 --> 00:11:19,480 Speaker 9: said wealthy countries or we set e countries, there was 208 00:11:19,800 --> 00:11:23,280 Speaker 9: quite a significant decrease in life satisfaction for young people. 209 00:11:23,720 --> 00:11:26,280 Speaker 9: And you know, we could attribute some of that, fascertain 210 00:11:26,440 --> 00:11:29,560 Speaker 9: to the COVID pandemic, the disruption that that had on 211 00:11:29,600 --> 00:11:32,600 Speaker 9: everyone's lives, but particularly the disruption that it had on 212 00:11:32,640 --> 00:11:36,480 Speaker 9: young people's lives. So school being disrupted, routines being upended, 213 00:11:36,520 --> 00:11:40,040 Speaker 9: the uncertainty, the fear, but you know the impact of 214 00:11:39,640 --> 00:11:44,480 Speaker 9: that really significant period of time. But for New Zealand, 215 00:11:44,679 --> 00:11:47,480 Speaker 9: you know, as you as you mentioned in your introduction, 216 00:11:47,600 --> 00:11:51,320 Speaker 9: we have this really staggeringly high by psuicide rate for 217 00:11:51,360 --> 00:11:54,640 Speaker 9: young people when compared to other countries, and that hasn't 218 00:11:54,679 --> 00:12:00,079 Speaker 9: significantly shifted over the period pre or post COVID, but 219 00:12:00,320 --> 00:12:03,560 Speaker 9: enough to really make it then in the horrific statistics 220 00:12:03,600 --> 00:12:06,000 Speaker 9: that we have. So there are many other factors I 221 00:12:06,040 --> 00:12:08,280 Speaker 9: think going on there as to why New Zealand's use 222 00:12:08,280 --> 00:12:10,640 Speaker 9: suicide rates remain so stubbornly high. 223 00:12:10,720 --> 00:12:13,000 Speaker 2: And these numbers are just up to twenty twenty two, right, 224 00:12:13,440 --> 00:12:16,760 Speaker 2: but we have seen although we don't know for sure, 225 00:12:16,880 --> 00:12:20,400 Speaker 2: but potentially those numbers coming down over the last couple 226 00:12:20,440 --> 00:12:20,880 Speaker 2: of years. 227 00:12:21,559 --> 00:12:24,240 Speaker 9: Yes, So how suicide reporting works is that there are 228 00:12:24,440 --> 00:12:27,320 Speaker 9: confirmed data. So that's where the coroner has confirmed that 229 00:12:27,880 --> 00:12:29,880 Speaker 9: our death was a suicide, and it takes quite a 230 00:12:29,920 --> 00:12:33,040 Speaker 9: while for that data essentially to catch up to the 231 00:12:33,040 --> 00:12:35,440 Speaker 9: present day. So what we have is confirmed data in 232 00:12:35,480 --> 00:12:38,679 Speaker 9: New Zealand for up to twenty twenty two, and this report, 233 00:12:38,920 --> 00:12:41,040 Speaker 9: because it's trying to compare like for like with all 234 00:12:41,080 --> 00:12:44,520 Speaker 9: these different countries, uses data that aggregates a little earlier 235 00:12:44,520 --> 00:12:47,960 Speaker 9: than that's more like up to twenty twenty one. And 236 00:12:48,360 --> 00:12:51,800 Speaker 9: so what we do see in New Zealand's own data 237 00:12:51,800 --> 00:12:53,680 Speaker 9: that it collects on suicide is that there may be 238 00:12:53,760 --> 00:12:58,200 Speaker 9: some small improvements, but not enough to actually shift the 239 00:12:58,240 --> 00:13:01,320 Speaker 9: facts that we are still an outline when we compared 240 00:13:01,360 --> 00:13:03,839 Speaker 9: to those other countries. It's still it may be making 241 00:13:03,880 --> 00:13:06,600 Speaker 9: small importments, but it's still far too high. 242 00:13:06,679 --> 00:13:08,680 Speaker 2: All right, Tony, really appreciate your time this morning. Tanya 243 00:13:08,760 --> 00:13:11,760 Speaker 2: Sawaki meet from UNISEEF. It is twenty three minutes after five. 244 00:13:11,800 --> 00:13:14,040 Speaker 2: You're on news talks. He be Clive says, I'm pleased 245 00:13:14,520 --> 00:13:17,720 Speaker 2: that the Privileges Committee has finally handed down some consequence 246 00:13:17,800 --> 00:13:21,199 Speaker 2: for t Parti Mari. They are radical, their behaviorshould be yeah, 247 00:13:21,200 --> 00:13:23,559 Speaker 2: And this is the thing they are out there running 248 00:13:23,600 --> 00:13:27,840 Speaker 2: around saying this is because we performed a hakker, that 249 00:13:27,920 --> 00:13:30,280 Speaker 2: we're getting the boot from parliament and you know, this 250 00:13:30,400 --> 00:13:32,600 Speaker 2: is the white man coming down on us. This is 251 00:13:32,640 --> 00:13:36,280 Speaker 2: the line that they're running. But it's not true. I mean, 252 00:13:36,360 --> 00:13:39,800 Speaker 2: Debbie Nadiva Paka was not suspended from parliament because she 253 00:13:39,960 --> 00:13:42,559 Speaker 2: did a hacker. She was suspended from parliament because her 254 00:13:42,559 --> 00:13:47,640 Speaker 2: behavior I doing the gun salute was seen as intimidating 255 00:13:47,920 --> 00:13:50,720 Speaker 2: to other members in the House. Twenty four minutes after five, 256 00:13:51,080 --> 00:13:52,200 Speaker 2: the early edition. 257 00:13:52,120 --> 00:13:55,920 Speaker 1: Full show podcast on iHeartRadio how It by News. 258 00:13:55,679 --> 00:13:56,240 Speaker 4: Talks at B. 259 00:13:58,000 --> 00:14:00,000 Speaker 2: News Talks A B it Is twenty six minutes after five. 260 00:14:00,040 --> 00:14:03,480 Speaker 2: I've a few sea words for you for your Thursday 261 00:14:03,520 --> 00:14:08,680 Speaker 2: morning Communist coalition and crash. I'm not going to do 262 00:14:08,720 --> 00:14:11,840 Speaker 2: the other one crash, because that's what would happen to 263 00:14:11,880 --> 00:14:15,000 Speaker 2: the economy if we lived in this green utopia, complete 264 00:14:15,040 --> 00:14:18,080 Speaker 2: with the eighty eight billion dollar tax grab announced yesterday. 265 00:14:18,760 --> 00:14:21,720 Speaker 2: A coalition because that is what you would get if labor, 266 00:14:21,880 --> 00:14:24,320 Speaker 2: not if really, but when labor shacks up with its 267 00:14:24,360 --> 00:14:28,400 Speaker 2: neighbors on the far left. Hipkins yesterday first claimed not 268 00:14:28,520 --> 00:14:32,560 Speaker 2: to have read the manifesto, which no one believes. This 269 00:14:32,600 --> 00:14:34,800 Speaker 2: is the manifesto of a party he could well be 270 00:14:34,840 --> 00:14:36,920 Speaker 2: sitting around the cabinet table within a year from now. 271 00:14:37,360 --> 00:14:40,920 Speaker 2: He then refused to rule out anything in it. Won't 272 00:14:40,960 --> 00:14:44,400 Speaker 2: rule out the hammer, won't rule out the sickle. The Greens, 273 00:14:44,400 --> 00:14:46,400 Speaker 2: and this is what this shows us, once again, are 274 00:14:46,440 --> 00:14:50,640 Speaker 2: by far and away Hipkins's biggest achilles heel, and therefore 275 00:14:50,840 --> 00:14:53,960 Speaker 2: Luxeon's greatest strength. Remember the hit that they took in 276 00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:57,840 Speaker 2: the polls. This is labor over the defunded police thing. 277 00:14:58,600 --> 00:15:00,840 Speaker 2: Here's the thing about New Zealand And is your middle 278 00:15:00,920 --> 00:15:04,520 Speaker 2: voters that they want these bigger parties. We may not 279 00:15:04,800 --> 00:15:08,280 Speaker 2: right now be affected by the inheritance tax or the 280 00:15:08,280 --> 00:15:11,120 Speaker 2: wealth tax that they're talking about and proposing, the higher 281 00:15:11,120 --> 00:15:14,840 Speaker 2: income taxes, the company tax hikes which would put them 282 00:15:14,840 --> 00:15:18,400 Speaker 2: amongst the highest in the developed world. But the problem 283 00:15:18,400 --> 00:15:22,040 Speaker 2: for Hipkins and co Is that we would like to 284 00:15:22,080 --> 00:15:25,360 Speaker 2: be Kiwi. Families would like to start a business and 285 00:15:25,400 --> 00:15:28,120 Speaker 2: create a life for their families, an asset and income, 286 00:15:28,200 --> 00:15:30,720 Speaker 2: a future. They dream of working their way up the 287 00:15:30,800 --> 00:15:33,680 Speaker 2: latter at work, get that better salary, get into that 288 00:15:33,760 --> 00:15:36,160 Speaker 2: better house that they've been saving to own. They don't 289 00:15:36,160 --> 00:15:39,280 Speaker 2: think it's fear for part of mum and Dad's life, 290 00:15:39,520 --> 00:15:43,480 Speaker 2: work and savings to be stolen and taken from them 291 00:15:43,680 --> 00:15:47,320 Speaker 2: by the state at their end. The election of John 292 00:15:47,440 --> 00:15:50,480 Speaker 2: Key showed us that families are ambitious in New Zealand. 293 00:15:50,760 --> 00:15:53,840 Speaker 2: They believe in themselves to do better. They're quite motivated 294 00:15:54,160 --> 00:15:56,240 Speaker 2: and they are ready for this recession to be over 295 00:15:56,320 --> 00:15:58,360 Speaker 2: so that basically we can all just get on with it. 296 00:15:59,000 --> 00:16:01,560 Speaker 2: I've never doubted that spirit in New Zealand. That spirit 297 00:16:01,640 --> 00:16:05,360 Speaker 2: hasn't left for Australia. It's just been hiding under a 298 00:16:05,480 --> 00:16:09,040 Speaker 2: rock for six years. And yes there are social problems 299 00:16:09,040 --> 00:16:11,560 Speaker 2: here in New Zealand too, But what we learned from 300 00:16:11,600 --> 00:16:16,040 Speaker 2: the fading days of Hipkin's reign is that voters don't 301 00:16:16,320 --> 00:16:19,680 Speaker 2: trust that if they give up their hard earned money 302 00:16:19,720 --> 00:16:23,280 Speaker 2: and assets, that the state has the ability, all the 303 00:16:23,360 --> 00:16:27,240 Speaker 2: wherewithal to change any of this, to fix any of it. 304 00:16:27,800 --> 00:16:31,080 Speaker 2: They're like the TMU versions of a Michael Joseph Savage. 305 00:16:31,600 --> 00:16:35,440 Speaker 2: Many of the houses he built still stand. Building never 306 00:16:35,520 --> 00:16:38,480 Speaker 2: started on most of Chippy's. And that brings us to 307 00:16:38,520 --> 00:16:42,200 Speaker 2: the final Seaward communists, because I don't know what else 308 00:16:42,240 --> 00:16:44,880 Speaker 2: do you call them. The Greens are planning a road 309 00:16:44,920 --> 00:16:48,120 Speaker 2: show after this pre budget announcement that they've done. My 310 00:16:48,280 --> 00:16:52,080 Speaker 2: only question for Chloe Mademer and the rest of them, 311 00:16:52,600 --> 00:16:55,000 Speaker 2: will you be traveling to these towns and cities by 312 00:16:55,080 --> 00:16:59,600 Speaker 2: bicycle or what? Will you be flying on. 313 00:16:59,560 --> 00:17:00,160 Speaker 10: An Arab. 314 00:17:06,160 --> 00:17:07,080 Speaker 1: Bryan Bridge? 315 00:17:07,440 --> 00:17:09,119 Speaker 2: I think we all know the answer to that, don't we. 316 00:17:09,200 --> 00:17:10,679 Speaker 2: How many times have you been on a flight to 317 00:17:10,720 --> 00:17:13,640 Speaker 2: Wellington and seen a Green Imp twenty nine after five 318 00:17:13,720 --> 00:17:17,240 Speaker 2: News Talk zib we'll talk Putin and Zolensky coming up 319 00:17:17,280 --> 00:17:20,639 Speaker 2: before sex and get to our reporters around the country. 320 00:17:25,560 --> 00:17:26,960 Speaker 4: Sometimes I just can't. 321 00:17:32,520 --> 00:17:36,240 Speaker 1: Bryan Bridge on the edition with one roof make your 322 00:17:36,280 --> 00:17:39,240 Speaker 1: property surge, simple news Talk, Zibby. 323 00:17:46,320 --> 00:17:48,920 Speaker 2: Give these twenty four minutes away from sexyer on news Talks. 324 00:17:49,119 --> 00:17:50,960 Speaker 2: B We're gonna get to our reporters around the country. 325 00:17:50,960 --> 00:17:52,840 Speaker 2: We're going to get to the US, and before sex, 326 00:17:52,880 --> 00:17:55,200 Speaker 2: will speak to a Russia reporter about what the Kremlin 327 00:17:55,280 --> 00:17:58,280 Speaker 2: does now that Zelensky is calling us bluff and has 328 00:17:58,320 --> 00:18:01,960 Speaker 2: turned up for Turkey. Why we play this song because 329 00:18:02,040 --> 00:18:04,320 Speaker 2: did you see yesterday? So Trump's doing his big Middle 330 00:18:04,320 --> 00:18:08,840 Speaker 2: East tour and he's at this Saudi investment summit and 331 00:18:08,880 --> 00:18:11,800 Speaker 2: they play him. I mean, the Crown Prince is there, 332 00:18:11,880 --> 00:18:15,720 Speaker 2: Mohammad and summons there, They're all standing around, all these 333 00:18:15,800 --> 00:18:18,720 Speaker 2: guys standing around him, their thobes and filming Trump and 334 00:18:18,760 --> 00:18:22,199 Speaker 2: they play this song. It's I mean, it's not the 335 00:18:22,240 --> 00:18:25,639 Speaker 2: most progressive country, is it, Saudi Arabia? So I know, 336 00:18:26,000 --> 00:18:28,240 Speaker 2: do they know it's a gay anthem? I don't know, 337 00:18:28,320 --> 00:18:31,440 Speaker 2: but it's quite a funny sight. Anyway. On Syria, overnight, 338 00:18:31,520 --> 00:18:34,560 Speaker 2: Trump met with Ahmad al Shabat. Now he's a terrorist. 339 00:18:34,600 --> 00:18:37,960 Speaker 2: The US lists him as a terrorist. He is the 340 00:18:38,000 --> 00:18:41,399 Speaker 2: interim leader of Syria. And we told you yesterday that 341 00:18:41,520 --> 00:18:45,520 Speaker 2: he had stopped the sanctions against Syria, he'd basically go 342 00:18:45,680 --> 00:18:50,280 Speaker 2: for it, start becoming a prosperous nation. This guy is 343 00:18:50,320 --> 00:18:54,199 Speaker 2: still technically listed as a terrorist according to America. He 344 00:18:54,240 --> 00:18:58,879 Speaker 2: has literally had a pr makeover, started wearing suits, changed 345 00:18:58,880 --> 00:19:02,200 Speaker 2: his name. This is al shah now, the interim leader 346 00:19:02,240 --> 00:19:05,359 Speaker 2: of Syria. Trump met him, shook his hand. First US 347 00:19:05,440 --> 00:19:08,800 Speaker 2: president in twenty five years to meet a Syrian leader. 348 00:19:09,720 --> 00:19:12,719 Speaker 2: And he comes out of this meeting and readd He 349 00:19:12,760 --> 00:19:14,920 Speaker 2: gets on Air Force one. Somebody asks him what did 350 00:19:14,960 --> 00:19:17,359 Speaker 2: you make of this guy? And Trump says, oh, he's 351 00:19:17,440 --> 00:19:18,160 Speaker 2: he's attractive. 352 00:19:19,960 --> 00:19:21,680 Speaker 6: How did you find the Syrian president? 353 00:19:22,000 --> 00:19:22,160 Speaker 4: Ray? 354 00:19:23,480 --> 00:19:29,520 Speaker 1: I think very good, young, attractive, yay, tough guy. Stromp 355 00:19:29,600 --> 00:19:32,000 Speaker 1: Pass a stromp Pass. 356 00:19:31,760 --> 00:19:36,040 Speaker 2: Fighter, certainly was a fighter. He's, according to your own government, 357 00:19:36,040 --> 00:19:38,880 Speaker 2: a terrorists. But he's attractive, so that's okay. Twenty two 358 00:19:38,880 --> 00:19:42,520 Speaker 2: minutes away from sex News talks, ev Ryan Bridge, Colum Procter, 359 00:19:42,600 --> 00:19:44,679 Speaker 2: and Denedin for US this morning Colum, Good morning to you. 360 00:19:45,320 --> 00:19:49,240 Speaker 2: If it's underway to make the gas Works Museum chimney safe. 361 00:19:49,280 --> 00:19:50,600 Speaker 2: What's not safe about it? 362 00:19:51,680 --> 00:19:54,880 Speaker 11: Well, it's threatening to topple over Ryan and it's a 363 00:19:54,920 --> 00:19:58,520 Speaker 11: pretty impressive Structure's been around since eighteen sixty three, this 364 00:19:58,600 --> 00:20:01,920 Speaker 11: brick chimney twenty five meters high. But the heritage site 365 00:20:02,200 --> 00:20:06,000 Speaker 11: was closed last month after structural changes were noticed in 366 00:20:06,040 --> 00:20:09,879 Speaker 11: the chimney during routine inspections, and engineers have now found 367 00:20:09,880 --> 00:20:13,480 Speaker 11: the situation has worsened and so supports will be installed. 368 00:20:13,960 --> 00:20:16,280 Speaker 11: In addition to the cracks and movement that they already 369 00:20:16,280 --> 00:20:18,040 Speaker 11: know about. This damage and the upper section of the 370 00:20:18,119 --> 00:20:20,160 Speaker 11: chimney that poses a risk of collapse. 371 00:20:20,680 --> 00:20:22,040 Speaker 2: So the city council says. 372 00:20:21,800 --> 00:20:24,040 Speaker 11: The focus for them will be on ensuring a safety 373 00:20:24,080 --> 00:20:27,159 Speaker 11: construction of the chimney. The plan is to bring the 374 00:20:27,200 --> 00:20:30,199 Speaker 11: bricks down one by one so it can possibly be 375 00:20:30,320 --> 00:20:31,359 Speaker 11: rebuilt in the future. 376 00:20:31,560 --> 00:20:34,240 Speaker 2: All right, And how's your weather? Morning? 377 00:20:34,280 --> 00:20:36,480 Speaker 11: Frost for some parts here, but otherwise fine day head 378 00:20:36,520 --> 00:20:38,520 Speaker 11: high cloud westerlies and eighteen. 379 00:20:38,160 --> 00:20:40,680 Speaker 2: Today brilliant, Thanks Callum. Claire is the christ Church Claire, 380 00:20:40,720 --> 00:20:46,679 Speaker 2: good morning she and christ Church. Yes I'm here, we are, Hey, 381 00:20:46,760 --> 00:20:50,360 Speaker 2: Claire so you've got a music festival moving closer. 382 00:20:51,080 --> 00:20:53,679 Speaker 12: Yes, well this is about Rolling Meadows Ryan. This is 383 00:20:53,680 --> 00:20:56,000 Speaker 12: the festival that has been based in wyp Pitter since 384 00:20:56,000 --> 00:20:59,560 Speaker 12: twenty twenty one. The organizers not long ago announced a 385 00:20:59,600 --> 00:21:02,120 Speaker 12: move to come closer to christ Church to Bottle Lake 386 00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:05,119 Speaker 12: Forest this New Years. But today New Stalk seed Be 387 00:21:05,240 --> 00:21:07,680 Speaker 12: can reveal they don't have consent to do that just yet. 388 00:21:07,920 --> 00:21:10,000 Speaker 12: There has been some talk on our local show on 389 00:21:10,119 --> 00:21:13,480 Speaker 12: zb this week. Basically some of the neighbors are pretty unhappy. 390 00:21:13,480 --> 00:21:16,000 Speaker 12: They're against the idea of a festival in their area. 391 00:21:16,680 --> 00:21:18,639 Speaker 12: The organizers did come on air and said, you know, 392 00:21:18,680 --> 00:21:21,600 Speaker 12: they've done all the things. They've offered alternative accommodation for 393 00:21:21,680 --> 00:21:24,960 Speaker 12: neighbors because of the noise concerns, they've got plans for 394 00:21:25,080 --> 00:21:28,399 Speaker 12: rubbish collection. Now there's a stir though about whether or 395 00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:30,679 Speaker 12: not they have consent, and it turns out they don't. 396 00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:33,959 Speaker 12: The application for the consent was received by city Council 397 00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:38,000 Speaker 12: but then withdrawn. A festival spokesperson says council told them 398 00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:41,200 Speaker 12: to do that. They are confident their second application, which 399 00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:44,960 Speaker 12: they reportedly did overnight, will be accepted with some minor changes. 400 00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:47,199 Speaker 12: They do say tickets won't go and sale until the 401 00:21:47,200 --> 00:21:48,000 Speaker 12: consent has sorted. 402 00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:51,720 Speaker 2: Okay, do you know, Clear, I've noticed the theme you bring. 403 00:21:52,280 --> 00:21:54,280 Speaker 2: You make me want to live in christ Church. I 404 00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:55,760 Speaker 2: mean only a little bit, but you might want to 405 00:21:55,760 --> 00:21:57,399 Speaker 2: live in christ because you're talking about, you know, the 406 00:21:57,400 --> 00:22:00,840 Speaker 2: cathedral's opening, We've got the stadium coming, We've got electric avenue, now, 407 00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:03,199 Speaker 2: we got rolling meadows. I mean, what's not to like? 408 00:22:03,560 --> 00:22:05,280 Speaker 12: I know, Ryan, Look, we had it pretty rough for 409 00:22:05,320 --> 00:22:07,560 Speaker 12: a long long time, so now it's the place to be. 410 00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:09,959 Speaker 12: The trouble is we don't want you all moving here 411 00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:11,040 Speaker 12: because it's too busy. 412 00:22:11,560 --> 00:22:13,000 Speaker 2: Well will the weather put us off? 413 00:22:13,600 --> 00:22:16,240 Speaker 12: No, Well, it is a bit frosty and cold to start. Otherwise, 414 00:22:16,280 --> 00:22:18,920 Speaker 12: clearing to a fine day with some high cloud northwesterlies 415 00:22:18,960 --> 00:22:20,159 Speaker 12: and seventeen. 416 00:22:19,760 --> 00:22:22,720 Speaker 2: Brilliant Thanks clear, Max, and Wellington makes six men vying 417 00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:23,400 Speaker 2: to be Meya. 418 00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:25,879 Speaker 10: Yeah, I suppose I must be the opposite to that. 419 00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:29,840 Speaker 10: These are the six likely lads. Andrew Little number one 420 00:22:29,920 --> 00:22:34,280 Speaker 10: content says Wellington has a crisis of confidence and the 421 00:22:34,400 --> 00:22:37,160 Speaker 10: first step is to rebuild trust in the council. Center left. 422 00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:40,800 Speaker 10: He describes himself as we interviewed. Ray Young flat out 423 00:22:40,840 --> 00:22:44,600 Speaker 10: says the capital dying. He believes better spending be a 424 00:22:44,680 --> 00:22:46,800 Speaker 10: value for rate payers as needed. Wants to stand apart 425 00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:50,000 Speaker 10: from party politics. There's this slightly out there social media 426 00:22:50,040 --> 00:22:54,520 Speaker 10: guy Graham Bloxham says he can bring audiences together cost cutting. 427 00:22:54,800 --> 00:22:59,640 Speaker 10: Describes himself as green, center left, cafe, ice, businessman, cartiff 428 00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:03,959 Speaker 10: and bar again rates debt, Kelvin hasty, He's a predator, 429 00:23:03,960 --> 00:23:07,480 Speaker 10: free champion, history in it and conservation, former copp and 430 00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:11,800 Speaker 10: soldier Rob Golden works and security centrist. Infrastructure top of 431 00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:13,920 Speaker 10: the to do list. And you can read these six 432 00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:15,720 Speaker 10: profiles on the Herald website. 433 00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:16,680 Speaker 2: I can't wait. 434 00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:18,560 Speaker 8: It is. 435 00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:20,679 Speaker 2: I think we should move you and clear so that 436 00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:23,520 Speaker 2: you're not buttered up against each other, because it is. 437 00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:25,679 Speaker 2: It is a hard gear. It's like going from a 438 00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:27,479 Speaker 2: birthday to a funeral very quickly. 439 00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:34,000 Speaker 10: Well, I am from christ It obviously, I've been driven 440 00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:34,760 Speaker 10: into despair. 441 00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:39,879 Speaker 2: Living in Wellington makes move home. Hey, how's it with today? 442 00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:44,680 Speaker 10: Mainly fine, funnily enough fresh Norwesterly is thirteen the high central. 443 00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:46,639 Speaker 2: Brilliant, heavy good one. Neighbors are not navor good morning. 444 00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:49,040 Speaker 5: They creaked me up. Funny so funny. 445 00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:49,320 Speaker 8: Hey. 446 00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:52,000 Speaker 2: Auckland Council we're sort of middle of the road here 447 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:55,280 Speaker 2: in Auckland, but we've got recent criminal punshment punishments for 448 00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:57,120 Speaker 2: dog attacks years now. 449 00:23:57,160 --> 00:23:59,800 Speaker 5: Look, the council says this is going to serve as 450 00:23:59,800 --> 00:24:03,359 Speaker 5: a wake up call to owners about these recent criminal punishments. 451 00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:05,280 Speaker 5: So we know that in March last year there was 452 00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:07,960 Speaker 5: a young boy he was mauled by two American bulldogs, 453 00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:11,639 Speaker 5: suffering multiple serious injuries. Now the dog's owner was recently 454 00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:14,920 Speaker 5: sentenced to fifty hours community work, ordered to pay two 455 00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:18,040 Speaker 5: thousand in emotional harm reparation to the victim's family. Then 456 00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:20,840 Speaker 5: just last week a woman received a similar sentence. This 457 00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:23,280 Speaker 5: is after her dog seriously attacked a visitor, and not 458 00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:25,720 Speaker 5: forgetting the little wee girl that was left scarred after 459 00:24:25,760 --> 00:24:28,040 Speaker 5: she was a TechEd in a park and techy dungy 460 00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:31,080 Speaker 5: last month, you know, one of those off leash dogs. 461 00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:34,439 Speaker 5: So yeah, so it's just that reminder. I'm not a 462 00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:36,920 Speaker 5: dog person. Well no, I'm not a dog. I shouldn't 463 00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:37,320 Speaker 5: say that. 464 00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:39,480 Speaker 2: You don't hate them, I don't hate you, you just don't 465 00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:43,320 Speaker 2: love them, correct, That's all right, Yes, people need to 466 00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:45,200 Speaker 2: be respectful of that as well. And when I take 467 00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:48,240 Speaker 2: my dog to the park. I know there are some people. 468 00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:50,680 Speaker 2: If she's off leash, I'll grab it because there's some 469 00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:51,919 Speaker 2: people who's uncomfortable. 470 00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:54,080 Speaker 5: And I think dogs sense my fair. Oh you've got 471 00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:57,400 Speaker 5: a lovely little wee dog. See those little ones they 472 00:24:57,400 --> 00:24:58,040 Speaker 5: don't bother me? 473 00:24:58,359 --> 00:25:00,879 Speaker 2: No, well, I mean they what do you think this? 474 00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:03,320 Speaker 2: I just would never trust a dog, no matter how cute. 475 00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:05,640 Speaker 5: It los okay because they can still buy checking. 476 00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:08,000 Speaker 2: The still got teeth and then the specially of these 477 00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:08,600 Speaker 2: kids around. 478 00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:10,200 Speaker 5: Yeah, no, you're absolutely right. 479 00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:11,920 Speaker 2: Hey, weather well. 480 00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:15,160 Speaker 5: Partly cloudy conditions, A chance of a morning shower. Eighteen 481 00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:16,119 Speaker 5: is a high here in Auckland. 482 00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:18,520 Speaker 2: Never good to see you're happy Thursday everyone. We'll get 483 00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:21,560 Speaker 2: to the US next, and we are talking about the 484 00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:24,600 Speaker 2: Kremlin's next move on Ukraine. Before six. 485 00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:29,160 Speaker 1: International Correspondence with Ends and Eye Insurance, Peace of Mind 486 00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:31,360 Speaker 1: for New Zealand Business fourteen to six. 487 00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:33,760 Speaker 2: Is the Lenski about to get stood up in Turkey? 488 00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:35,919 Speaker 2: We'll talk Russia in just a second right now. The 489 00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:39,560 Speaker 2: Menindias Brothers is a famous case in America. They may 490 00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:42,280 Speaker 2: be released from prison, could be within the next few weeks. 491 00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:45,520 Speaker 2: Tony Waterman, US correspondent, Feature story News with Me This morning, Tony, 492 00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:46,280 Speaker 2: Good morning. 493 00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:47,880 Speaker 13: Good morning. 494 00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:51,080 Speaker 2: So how has this come about. Why has the judge 495 00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:53,000 Speaker 2: decided to reduce this sentence. 496 00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:58,639 Speaker 13: Well, this judge resentenced them to life in prison with 497 00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:01,400 Speaker 13: the possibility of so this is going to really pave 498 00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:04,000 Speaker 13: the way for them to be released. The judge didn't 499 00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:07,600 Speaker 13: outright say that the brothers should be released. That is 500 00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:10,520 Speaker 13: a decision that's going to be left up for California's 501 00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:13,400 Speaker 13: governor and the parole board, but he did say that 502 00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:17,960 Speaker 13: after thirty five years behind bars, that they did deserve 503 00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:20,240 Speaker 13: a chance to get out. This is really a case 504 00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:25,080 Speaker 13: that has gripped the United States for decades. It's been 505 00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:27,480 Speaker 13: the saga that has been playing out, and there have 506 00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:30,800 Speaker 13: been a number of these docu series, particularly this one 507 00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:34,000 Speaker 13: that came out last year on Netflix, that have been 508 00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:36,119 Speaker 13: done on them, which has really brought the story to 509 00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:40,719 Speaker 13: a younger generation. They have been behind bars essentially since 510 00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:44,119 Speaker 13: nineteen eighty nine, that is when they were convicted of 511 00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:49,000 Speaker 13: killing their parents inside their ritzy Beverly Hills mansions and 512 00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:53,000 Speaker 13: the brother the brothers have always maintained that they killed 513 00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:56,040 Speaker 13: their parents because they feared their parents were going to 514 00:26:56,119 --> 00:26:59,840 Speaker 13: kill them first. After years of really horrible sexual ab 515 00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:02,240 Speaker 13: you set the hands of their father, something that they 516 00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:05,119 Speaker 13: claim their mother was aware of and that they were 517 00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:07,199 Speaker 13: trying to keep a secret. So that has always been 518 00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:10,320 Speaker 13: their claim. Over the years, their family members have come 519 00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:14,359 Speaker 13: out and advocated for them, including before this decision came down. 520 00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:17,760 Speaker 13: And as you mentioned, they're going to be potentially could 521 00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:20,280 Speaker 13: be released as soon as June thirteen, that is when 522 00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:23,360 Speaker 13: they are scheduled to appear before the Board. 523 00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:26,639 Speaker 2: Of Paroles and very quickly, Tony, the two hundred and 524 00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:29,480 Speaker 2: ten Boeing aircraft that Kasan airwise is going to get 525 00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:31,280 Speaker 2: us part of this deal with Trump. 526 00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:37,440 Speaker 13: Yeah, so this is actually the biggest Boeing order ever, 527 00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:41,520 Speaker 13: two hundred and ten Boeing airplanes that was signed as 528 00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:44,480 Speaker 13: Donald Trump is taking this trip across the Middle East 529 00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:47,800 Speaker 13: in Kata earlier today. You know, there was another thing 530 00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:49,879 Speaker 13: that they signed. This is a statement of intent that 531 00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:54,320 Speaker 13: could lead to thirty eight billion dollars in investments at 532 00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:58,919 Speaker 13: Qatar's Al Ubi Airbase, which is this vital US military 533 00:27:59,000 --> 00:27:59,760 Speaker 13: hub in the Middle East. 534 00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:00,359 Speaker 8: One they they. 535 00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:04,359 Speaker 13: Didn't talk about it least publicly, is this very controversial 536 00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:07,879 Speaker 13: offer by Kuta to donate a four hundred million dollar 537 00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:11,400 Speaker 13: luxury Boeing jet to be the next air Force one, 538 00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:14,359 Speaker 13: which of course has led to a raft of conflict 539 00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:19,119 Speaker 13: of interest concerns and foreign's foreign influence concerns, because don't forget, 540 00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:21,920 Speaker 13: this is the same Kuta where the Trump family business 541 00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:25,400 Speaker 13: has just struck a deal to build a Trump branded 542 00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:28,480 Speaker 13: luxury golf resort and villain. And he's been his family 543 00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:30,880 Speaker 13: has been striking deals like this all across the Middle 544 00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:33,480 Speaker 13: East right now, his first foreign trip vice president to 545 00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:34,280 Speaker 13: that very region. 546 00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:36,919 Speaker 2: Yeah, big deals, tiny, Thanks for you, Tom Tony Wildeman, 547 00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:39,360 Speaker 2: US correspondent figure Story and news tanaway from. 548 00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:40,760 Speaker 1: Six Ryan Bridge. 549 00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:44,440 Speaker 2: Posen's still leaving Zelensky on rid Orsain, still no replies 550 00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:47,320 Speaker 2: Zelenski and Turkey basically waiting for him to turn up. 551 00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:50,360 Speaker 2: He now sees he won't meet with anyone butts Posin 552 00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:54,080 Speaker 2: Babyca senior Russia reporter Olga. If Shana is with us 553 00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:56,960 Speaker 2: this morning, thank you for being with me. Do you 554 00:28:57,000 --> 00:29:02,040 Speaker 2: think it's Likelyay Poten will turn up in the fleesh? 555 00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:05,480 Speaker 14: Well, that's the biggest question now, right And if I knew, 556 00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:08,680 Speaker 14: if anyone could read put in his mind, for probably 557 00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:10,960 Speaker 14: that person would be one of the most differential and 558 00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:13,680 Speaker 14: important people in the world right now. So the trouble 559 00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:17,160 Speaker 14: with Putting is he follows his own logic, which we 560 00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:22,800 Speaker 14: have seen precisely in the past three ten years. So yeah, 561 00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:27,360 Speaker 14: it's quite unpredictable. Russian Russian officials are keeping the polls, 562 00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:30,560 Speaker 14: that's not not releasing much information. There is an interesting 563 00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:33,760 Speaker 14: sign that today Brazilian president made a stopover in Moscow 564 00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:38,840 Speaker 14: and didn't meet with Putting, but it's probably too far 565 00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:42,400 Speaker 14: to say that. So there is a sign of possibly 566 00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:48,040 Speaker 14: him Putting preparing for something big, But it's it's it's still. 567 00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:55,000 Speaker 2: Ago. We've lost you. No, I think we've lost Olga. Unfortunately, 568 00:29:55,040 --> 00:30:00,400 Speaker 2: it just gone nine minutes away from six Olga you're there. No, 569 00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:02,680 Speaker 2: we've lost it. We'll have to leave it there. Unfortunately, 570 00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:05,200 Speaker 2: it was interesting what she had to say anyway. So 571 00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:07,239 Speaker 2: the problem, I mean, what he will be weighing up, 572 00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:09,400 Speaker 2: what the Kremlin will be weighing up, is how does 573 00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:11,280 Speaker 2: it look to the rest of the world if I 574 00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:15,040 Speaker 2: don't turn up. How does it look to America in particular, 575 00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:17,040 Speaker 2: if I don't turn up, does that make it look 576 00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:18,200 Speaker 2: like I'm not keen on a deal? 577 00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:18,760 Speaker 8: You know? 578 00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:21,400 Speaker 2: These are the calculations the Kremlin will be making Alg's 579 00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:24,400 Speaker 2: back with us. I think, Olga, that'll be presumably what 580 00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:25,520 Speaker 2: the Kremlin's weighing up. 581 00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:30,120 Speaker 14: Yes, in a way, kremlinly is enjoying this ex tension, 582 00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:32,600 Speaker 14: as was exactly their strategy for many years now, to 583 00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:36,280 Speaker 14: keep the tension as much as possible in order to 584 00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:41,560 Speaker 14: try to provoke cares, provoke confrontation, provoke doubts and discussions 585 00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:45,560 Speaker 14: within the allies in Europe, in the United States, between 586 00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:48,720 Speaker 14: Ukraine and the United States, for example. So the tension 587 00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:51,240 Speaker 14: is actually favorable to Moscow, so we have to wait 588 00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:54,920 Speaker 14: until tomorrow to get the answers. But Kremlin is enjoying 589 00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:59,520 Speaker 14: that tension and possible disruptions which it may bring. 590 00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:02,600 Speaker 2: Aga really appreciate your time. Thank you with the dodgy 591 00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:05,760 Speaker 2: line for US. BBC senior Russia reporter Olga if Shiner, 592 00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:08,640 Speaker 2: on whether Putin will turn up in the flesh to 593 00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:11,120 Speaker 2: meet with the Ntski says, I'm not meeting with lamb Rob. 594 00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:14,000 Speaker 2: I'm not meeting with anyone else except for Putin. It 595 00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:16,680 Speaker 2: has just gone eight minutes away from six news talks. 596 00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:18,000 Speaker 2: Here be MICA's with us. 597 00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:20,640 Speaker 1: Next, the News you Need this morning and the in 598 00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:24,760 Speaker 1: depth Analysis Early edition with Ryan Bridge and one roof 599 00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:27,720 Speaker 1: make your Property Search Simple, News Talks. 600 00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:29,920 Speaker 2: He'd be first to six. You're on news talks, you'd 601 00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:31,960 Speaker 2: be I promised i'd get to the net migration thing 602 00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:33,720 Speaker 2: very quickly, and I'm a man of my word, so 603 00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:36,560 Speaker 2: I will net migration gain twenty six four hundred in 604 00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:39,240 Speaker 2: the year ended March. That's the lowest since twenty twenty two. 605 00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:42,040 Speaker 2: I mean not surprising because we've seen them trending down. 606 00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:46,320 Speaker 2: But seventy thousand kiwis left in the March twenty twenty 607 00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:49,840 Speaker 2: five year, two thirds of them headed for Australia. Basically, 608 00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:51,920 Speaker 2: migrants don't want to move here anymore, and Kiwis are 609 00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:53,720 Speaker 2: leaving in their drives. And the Greens say this is 610 00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:55,800 Speaker 2: because we need to tax everything more, we need to 611 00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:59,960 Speaker 2: become a socialist state and then everyone will return to utopia, 612 00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:02,360 Speaker 2: which is nonsense, because the reason they're fleeing here is 613 00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:05,040 Speaker 2: for higher wages. People. They want to be paid more, 614 00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:09,040 Speaker 2: not taxed more, which is what would happen. We basically 615 00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:11,600 Speaker 2: just need some more ocr cuts, according to the economists. 616 00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:15,720 Speaker 2: Five away from six Bryan Bridge there, Mike, good morning morning. 617 00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:19,640 Speaker 2: What I no you carryten to your show? The other day. Well, 618 00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:21,920 Speaker 2: that's the that's why we were just talking about that. 619 00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:25,360 Speaker 15: You're off there. What you said was, I don't normally listen. 620 00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:27,240 Speaker 15: I happen to be driving to the city. 621 00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:30,520 Speaker 2: I don't normally listen at that time, so I would 622 00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:34,040 Speaker 2: listen time. Do you listen on my way home from here? Well, 623 00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:38,560 Speaker 2: what's ten minutes? Six minutes? Yeah, Max, exactly, But I 624 00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:41,000 Speaker 2: don't normally listen in this in the last half hour 625 00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:43,080 Speaker 2: of your show, and it just struck me that there's 626 00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:43,400 Speaker 2: just a. 627 00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:48,240 Speaker 16: Lot of Mike Smack talking for basically then tell you what, 628 00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:49,560 Speaker 16: tell you what I can do, and you can get 629 00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:52,880 Speaker 16: some tips for your show office, because after after sixteen 630 00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:56,440 Speaker 16: slash seventeen years, the numbers don't lie, my friend, whether 631 00:32:56,680 --> 00:32:59,040 Speaker 16: in revenue or awards or ratings. 632 00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:01,880 Speaker 2: So people, the Smack people love a bit of me. 633 00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:03,160 Speaker 15: Mate. 634 00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:05,959 Speaker 2: I said to him every day, I say what's on 635 00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:08,440 Speaker 2: your show? And he always just is me. It's like, well, 636 00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:10,480 Speaker 2: what is there's something more interesting happening? 637 00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:13,080 Speaker 15: There is nothing more interesting than me, Ryan. I mean, 638 00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:15,520 Speaker 15: let's call it the way it is. Actually Bill Foley's 639 00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:19,200 Speaker 15: on This Morning. Bill Foley owns the Vegas Black Knight's 640 00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:21,680 Speaker 15: ice hockey team, who are in the playoff game today. 641 00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:24,960 Speaker 15: Also owns more importantly for US Auckland FC and is 642 00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:27,000 Speaker 15: one of the great success stories on how to build 643 00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:28,800 Speaker 15: a team, a winning side and all that sort of stuff. 644 00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:31,400 Speaker 15: They go to the playoffs this weekend, so he's joining 645 00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:33,320 Speaker 15: us from the States for a bit of an insight. 646 00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:35,840 Speaker 15: He also runs a lot of hospital here in the country, 647 00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:38,360 Speaker 15: does a lot of wine, so he's a billionaires. 648 00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:39,440 Speaker 2: Great success for US. 649 00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:40,640 Speaker 15: Anyways, US after. 650 00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:42,880 Speaker 2: It, Mike and a really rich guy coming up next 651 00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:44,760 Speaker 2: News Tom CB whatever. 652 00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:50,000 Speaker 1: For more from Early Edition with Ryan Bridge. 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