1
00:00:07,133 --> 00:00:10,453
Speaker 1: You're listening to the Saturday Morning with Jack Tame podcast

2
00:00:10,573 --> 00:00:11,733
Speaker 1: from News Talks that be.

3
00:00:12,733 --> 00:00:16,333
Speaker 2: Our Textbert Paul Stenhouse is here with details of a

4
00:00:16,493 --> 00:00:20,373
Speaker 2: consequential decision by the Supreme Court in the United States

5
00:00:21,093 --> 00:00:25,893
Speaker 2: considering or concerning one very large state, Paul, and one

6
00:00:26,013 --> 00:00:27,253
Speaker 2: very large website.

7
00:00:27,893 --> 00:00:30,893
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, the very large state is Texas, Jack, And

8
00:00:30,933 --> 00:00:34,613
Speaker 3: the websites are the websites we don't really talk about

9
00:00:34,653 --> 00:00:37,893
Speaker 3: a lot. And are those adult websites on the internet,

10
00:00:38,333 --> 00:00:43,773
Speaker 3: as you catch my drift. And so this Texas law

11
00:00:43,933 --> 00:00:49,693
Speaker 3: Right had basically said that children should not be allowed

12
00:00:49,693 --> 00:00:56,293
Speaker 3: to view the adultites, right, which sounds normal, reasonable, Like, okay,

13
00:00:56,333 --> 00:01:00,933
Speaker 3: that makes sense, sounds reasonable. Yeah. Now, now obviously there's

14
00:01:00,933 --> 00:01:03,053
Speaker 3: some issues there around how you enforced that, but we'll

15
00:01:03,053 --> 00:01:07,413
Speaker 3: put that aside for the moment. This this group though,

16
00:01:07,613 --> 00:01:11,373
Speaker 3: claimed that in America we've got the First Amendment, which

17
00:01:11,413 --> 00:01:15,613
Speaker 3: is all about free speech. They claimed that putting that

18
00:01:15,813 --> 00:01:21,053
Speaker 3: rule in place actually violated the free speech of the

19
00:01:21,733 --> 00:01:26,573
Speaker 3: adults right who wanted to view said content. And they

20
00:01:26,733 --> 00:01:29,973
Speaker 3: said that the reason why was that in order to

21
00:01:30,333 --> 00:01:33,213
Speaker 3: view said content, you need to put in like, you know,

22
00:01:33,293 --> 00:01:36,613
Speaker 3: like a government ide or a credit card and there's

23
00:01:36,613 --> 00:01:40,253
Speaker 3: probably like a viewing history because you're authenticated, and that

24
00:01:40,853 --> 00:01:45,493
Speaker 3: those people may be deterred from what who said, adult

25
00:01:45,613 --> 00:01:49,973
Speaker 3: content that would impose on their free speech and so

26
00:01:50,653 --> 00:01:54,533
Speaker 3: this means to a Supreme Court Texas. Then the Supreme

27
00:01:54,533 --> 00:01:57,653
Speaker 3: Court ruled in favor of the Texas law, saying, actually,

28
00:01:58,093 --> 00:02:01,613
Speaker 3: the government is within its bounds to try to protect

29
00:02:01,773 --> 00:02:07,213
Speaker 3: children and this is well and just and good. And

30
00:02:07,453 --> 00:02:10,533
Speaker 3: Texas is one of twenty four states did you know

31
00:02:10,573 --> 00:02:16,733
Speaker 3: that have passed age verification laws for adult websites online?

32
00:02:16,813 --> 00:02:19,093
Speaker 3: And so this is really now paved the way and

33
00:02:19,133 --> 00:02:22,013
Speaker 3: people have kind of started to think, well, what else

34
00:02:22,053 --> 00:02:26,093
Speaker 3: could this be applied to, right, because the Internet's always

35
00:02:26,133 --> 00:02:28,573
Speaker 3: been kind of free and open, and there's always been

36
00:02:28,613 --> 00:02:31,973
Speaker 3: the idea, and now we've said, hang on, the government

37
00:02:32,213 --> 00:02:34,653
Speaker 3: or a state government in the United States can now

38
00:02:34,773 --> 00:02:38,133
Speaker 3: decide whether or not you need to be age verified

39
00:02:38,173 --> 00:02:42,933
Speaker 3: to view certain content. Because this is another interesting one too.

40
00:02:42,933 --> 00:02:49,613
Speaker 3: The Texas Governor Jack called, you know, the proliferation of

41
00:02:49,813 --> 00:02:54,173
Speaker 3: access that children drink can have to said adult websites,

42
00:02:54,653 --> 00:03:01,293
Speaker 3: a public health crisis. Wow. So those realms of looking

43
00:03:01,333 --> 00:03:05,573
Speaker 3: after children, which is a hard core you know, it's interesting.

44
00:03:05,813 --> 00:03:08,133
Speaker 3: I think interesting arguments on both sides.

45
00:03:08,213 --> 00:03:10,253
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you can. You could this kind of there's

46
00:03:10,293 --> 00:03:12,813
Speaker 2: actually nuance. I mean, there's a tricky subject and one

47
00:03:12,853 --> 00:03:16,573
Speaker 2: that we can sort of only go into some No,

48
00:03:16,613 --> 00:03:19,933
Speaker 2: you've done it very You very definitely described the situation,

49
00:03:20,013 --> 00:03:21,933
Speaker 2: I think, Paul, so we can we can thank you

50
00:03:22,333 --> 00:03:24,693
Speaker 2: for that, especially given school holidays have just kicked off.

51
00:03:24,853 --> 00:03:28,733
Speaker 2: But lose curious because you can imagine from the website's perspective,

52
00:03:29,173 --> 00:03:34,213
Speaker 2: like having this verification is a massive barrier to increasing viewership, right,

53
00:03:34,493 --> 00:03:37,893
Speaker 2: and you can imagine there are real privacy and security

54
00:03:37,893 --> 00:03:40,573
Speaker 2: concerns if there is age verification and then people have

55
00:03:41,053 --> 00:03:45,013
Speaker 2: viewing histories and that information was hacked or leaked or

56
00:03:45,053 --> 00:03:47,213
Speaker 2: something like that and then made public. Like you can

57
00:03:47,293 --> 00:03:51,133
Speaker 2: just you can just imagine, like there are all sorts

58
00:03:51,213 --> 00:03:55,693
Speaker 2: of really interesting free speech implications I think as well. So, yeah, hey,

59
00:03:55,813 --> 00:04:00,173
Speaker 2: Salesforce and the CEO at Salesforce now reckon that between

60
00:04:00,213 --> 00:04:03,413
Speaker 2: thirty and fifty percent of the internal work that the

61
00:04:03,453 --> 00:04:06,773
Speaker 2: company is doing is done by AI. That is that, right,

62
00:04:06,813 --> 00:04:08,613
Speaker 2: That seems like a very very high figure.

63
00:04:10,173 --> 00:04:12,373
Speaker 3: That's what I thought too, That's what he said in

64
00:04:12,813 --> 00:04:16,293
Speaker 3: a recent interview. He didn't see her it was being measured,

65
00:04:16,653 --> 00:04:19,933
Speaker 3: but it seems staggering, doesn't it. I Mean, he then

66
00:04:19,973 --> 00:04:22,053
Speaker 3: goes on to say that it is being used for

67
00:04:22,133 --> 00:04:25,373
Speaker 3: things like software engineering, it's being used for things like

68
00:04:25,413 --> 00:04:29,253
Speaker 3: customer service, and so I can imagine maybe in some

69
00:04:29,333 --> 00:04:32,693
Speaker 3: of those areas thirty to fifty percent of that work

70
00:04:32,733 --> 00:04:35,573
Speaker 3: is now being done by AI. But I think it

71
00:04:35,613 --> 00:04:40,133
Speaker 3: really goes to show, right, just these big companies have

72
00:04:40,333 --> 00:04:42,293
Speaker 3: when they go when they go all in, and when

73
00:04:42,293 --> 00:04:44,133
Speaker 3: they had gone all in on AI, they have gone

74
00:04:44,133 --> 00:04:47,613
Speaker 3: all in. Salesforce even says that that this tick like

75
00:04:47,693 --> 00:04:51,693
Speaker 3: the AI kind of agent piece, you know, and Salesforce

76
00:04:51,733 --> 00:04:54,973
Speaker 3: also wants to sell their own agent solutions that does

77
00:04:55,053 --> 00:04:58,653
Speaker 3: some of the customer service stuff. Right, So he's kind

78
00:04:58,653 --> 00:05:01,893
Speaker 3: of talking about this, you know, he's talking about it

79
00:05:01,893 --> 00:05:05,293
Speaker 3: in a way that makes positions as product well, but yes,

80
00:05:05,333 --> 00:05:07,413
Speaker 3: of course, you know a lot of that work, a

81
00:05:07,413 --> 00:05:11,213
Speaker 3: lot of that work can be done by these agents

82
00:05:11,533 --> 00:05:13,773
Speaker 3: and now is being done by these agents and has

83
00:05:13,893 --> 00:05:18,333
Speaker 3: allowed them to hire fewer humans. And he said that

84
00:05:18,413 --> 00:05:21,333
Speaker 3: he has staged that, and so we definitely in this age.

85
00:05:21,373 --> 00:05:24,493
Speaker 3: Now we're at this tipping point. I guess where the

86
00:05:24,533 --> 00:05:28,333
Speaker 3: technology is there. It's now good enough, and this deployed

87
00:05:28,853 --> 00:05:33,093
Speaker 3: well enough can actually be taking over the jobs that

88
00:05:33,133 --> 00:05:35,373
Speaker 3: folks do. Now, the companies will say that the jobs

89
00:05:35,373 --> 00:05:40,533
Speaker 3: aren't being removed, being positioned. Repositioned is a higher value work,

90
00:05:41,053 --> 00:05:43,213
Speaker 3: which you try to take them to their word for.

91
00:05:43,653 --> 00:05:47,413
Speaker 3: But it's also not just salesforce, Jack, because Microsoft and

92
00:05:47,493 --> 00:05:50,773
Speaker 3: Alphabet have said that they've kind of claimed some similar

93
00:05:50,813 --> 00:05:53,653
Speaker 3: stats too. Around they're saying around thirty percent of the

94
00:05:53,773 --> 00:05:58,213
Speaker 3: code on then projects, the new code is being contributed

95
00:05:58,253 --> 00:06:02,733
Speaker 3: by AI. So this isn't just like a flashpand thing anymore.

96
00:06:02,773 --> 00:06:10,373
Speaker 3: This is like, has some real implications for humans and yeah, economies.

97
00:06:10,493 --> 00:06:14,213
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh my god. And the entire workforce, the entire

98
00:06:14,253 --> 00:06:17,653
Speaker 2: middle class, desk bound workforce. Yeah, I mean yeah, it

99
00:06:17,773 --> 00:06:20,093
Speaker 2: is incredible to think if that numbers, you know, even

100
00:06:20,133 --> 00:06:22,373
Speaker 2: close to being correct, that's amazing, Paul, thank you so

101
00:06:22,493 --> 00:06:25,013
Speaker 2: much for that. That's our texpert Paul Stenhouse.

102
00:06:25,573 --> 00:06:28,693
Speaker 1: For more from Saturday Morning with Jack Tame, listen live

103
00:06:28,773 --> 00:06:31,573
Speaker 1: to news talks that'd be from nine am Saturday, or

104
00:06:31,653 --> 00:06:33,573
Speaker 1: follow the podcast on iHeartRadio