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Speaker 1: You're listening to the Saturday Morning with Jack Teine podcast

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Speaker 1: from News Talks ed B. Start your weekend off in style.

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Speaker 1: Saturday Mornings with Jack Team and Bpure dot co dot

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Speaker 2: More in a caw to New Zealand. Good morning, Welcome

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Speaker 2: to our first show together of January, our first show

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Speaker 2: together for twenty twenty five. Naw, I'm here to Toho.

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Speaker 2: That means happy New Year. I hope wherever you are

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Speaker 2: this morning, you have had a wonderful summer. I cannot

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Speaker 2: tell you how excited I am to be back together

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Speaker 2: for another year. I've had a wonderful summer myself, been

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Speaker 2: all over the country, plenty of time relaxing, plenty of

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Speaker 2: time socializing, a little bit of time on the couch

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Speaker 2: with COVID. But never mind that. It has been a

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Speaker 2: wonderful start to the year. But like I say, I

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Speaker 2: am delighted to be back with you for what is

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Speaker 2: a pretty big show. It has to be seire. I

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Speaker 2: don't know what it is about the summer, but I

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Speaker 2: reckon the stone fruit. This year has maybe been as

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Speaker 2: good as I can remember it in New Zealand. I

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Speaker 2: don't know what it is. The cherries have been on point,

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Speaker 2: the apricots, the nectarines, all of them fantastic. And the

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Speaker 2: plums are heavy right now, well at least at our place,

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Speaker 2: the crop is heavy, and we have a delicious recent

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Speaker 2: peap be four ten o'clock. If you've got plums at

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Speaker 2: your place and Italian plum ricotta tart to share with you.

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Speaker 2: It's one of those desserts for people who say that

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Speaker 2: they don't really have a sweet tooth, but they actually

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Speaker 2: kind of do, so you know, they're like, yeah, I

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Speaker 2: can kind of take a leave dessert. Trust me, the

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Speaker 2: Italian plumb ricott of tart is going to be for you.

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Speaker 2: As well as that, we're going to talk about Cameron

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Speaker 2: Diaz's first film in ten years, Why has she been

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Speaker 2: away from the silver screen. We'll tell you all about

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Speaker 2: that new movie very shortly. Right now though. It's eight

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Speaker 2: minutes past nine, Jack Team, And as I turned on

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Speaker 2: my phone for the first time in three days, it

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Speaker 2: lit up with text messages from my wife. There was

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Speaker 2: a photo a tiny baby trussed up in a cotton

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Speaker 2: wrap like a fresh, fleshy burrito, with a little woolen hat.

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Speaker 2: For good measure congratulations. Her message said, you're a dad.

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Speaker 2: I knew she was joking. I'm not denying there was

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Speaker 2: an element of risk in deciding to go tramping through

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Speaker 2: the back country of the Kahudangi National Park while my

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Speaker 2: wife was at home thirty two weeks pregnant. I knew

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Speaker 2: there was a bit of risk in that decision. But

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Speaker 2: I also knew that if she had had the baby

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Speaker 2: while I was dragging myself up a distant ridge top,

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Speaker 2: her first words to me when I emerged from the

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Speaker 2: bush would not have been congrat aragulations. It's funny. I

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Speaker 2: reckon solitude in the bush. You know, the uncontactableness I reckon.

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Speaker 2: I reckon It's a big part of the attraction of

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Speaker 2: tramping for me. I love the physical challenge of tramping.

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Speaker 2: I love the birds, the peewacka waka flitting about when

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Speaker 2: you're under the canopy, the care ah rack rack squawking

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Speaker 2: over the valleys. I love how I love how you know,

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Speaker 2: kind of humbling it is, how how insignificant you feel

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Speaker 2: when you stand on top of a mountain ridge and

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Speaker 2: you're kind of confronted by your your relative puniness. But

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Speaker 2: no sign of civilization anywhere. Realistically, that solitude is probably

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Speaker 2: about to take a massive hit. When I was in

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Speaker 2: the Kahudangi, it struck me that it is only a

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Speaker 2: matter of time, a couple of months, a couple of

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Speaker 2: years at most, before satellite, internet and communications technology mean

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Speaker 2: we will all have internet and cell phone reception all

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Speaker 2: the Undertoki Fork's Hut. If you want comms, you will

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Speaker 2: have comms that endless stream of notifications z buzzing in

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Speaker 2: your pocket. I'm not going to deny that. You know,

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Speaker 2: there are some obvious upsides to being contactable all the time,

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Speaker 2: especially in my family, where there's a history, thankfully not mine,

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Speaker 2: emergency situations, it's just going to be so valuable to

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Speaker 2: it's going to be a game changer, no doubt. But

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Speaker 2: even for a couple of days. You know what I mean?

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Speaker 2: And you know I just hope that in years to come,

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Speaker 2: goodness sake, unless it's an emergency, please put your phone

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Speaker 2: on aeroplane mode. Jack Team ninety two. Ninety two is

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Speaker 2: the text number if you want to send us a

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Speaker 2: News talks, he'db dot co dot enz. We have a

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Speaker 2: Stonking feature interview for you after ten o'clock this morning.

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Speaker 2: David Gray is going to be with us. He's just

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Speaker 2: released his latest album, Dear Life. He's one of those

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Speaker 2: like incredibly introspective and thoughtful songwriters and He's interesting because

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Speaker 2: he always talks about writing lyrics or prioritizing lyrics over melodies.

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Speaker 2: Usually with songwriters, they think about melodies before they think

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Speaker 2: about lyrics. And it's not necessarily that he doesn't think

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Speaker 2: about melodies. It's that he just puts so much time, effort,

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Speaker 2: he's going to be with us after ten this morning

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Speaker 2: as he begins his world tour. Really looking forward to that.

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Speaker 2: Kevin Milns here next. Right now, it's thirteen minutes past nine.

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Speaker 2: I'm Jack Tam. I'm delighted to be back with you

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Speaker 2: for another year on news Talks, he'd be, And right

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Speaker 2: now it's time for a break.

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Speaker 3: No better way to kick off your weekend than with Jack.

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Speaker 1: Saturday Mornings with Jack Tay and bpwart on co dot Nz.

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Speaker 2: Simple, says Nick. Leave your phone at home, take a raincoat,

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Speaker 2: knee purb and a flair Flair Nick, where are you going?

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Speaker 2: Jack says ed bugger having reception in the back country.

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Speaker 2: I just want to be able to make phone calls

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Speaker 2: on State Highway one on the South Island. I think

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Speaker 2: that is pretty reasonable. I think that's pretty reasonable, Phil

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Speaker 2: says Jack. If you don't want connectivity simple to your

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Speaker 2: mobile phone off for a bit, it's not necessarily me

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Speaker 2: that I'm worried about. For the thing is that you

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Speaker 2: need everyone to agree to it, right. You don't want

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Speaker 2: to come across other trampers who who are getting notifications

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Speaker 2: as well. You all want to kind of sign up

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Speaker 2: if you want to send me a message. This morning,

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Speaker 2: Kevin Milne is with uske out of Kevin. Happy New Year.

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Speaker 4: Happy New Year to you, Jack. I'm just thinking about

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Speaker 4: you solituding on the boards. Yeah, assuming the one thing

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Speaker 4: you didn't tell us was that you chop it out

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Speaker 4: for the anti nagal jet clubs.

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Speaker 2: I you'll be pleased to know I did make the

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Speaker 2: anti natal classes before the before the tramp. It was

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Speaker 2: and I can it was the only reason I knew

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Speaker 2: she was joking. I knew that her first words to

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Speaker 2: me if I'd missed the birth of our child would

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Speaker 2: not be congratulations. Anyway, You've had a good summer, Kevin, Yes.

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Speaker 4: It was a very busy time. I had a very

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Speaker 4: very busy Christmas and New Year, and when that was

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Speaker 4: all over, I really felt like getting to the bushman itself. Yeah. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: it's funny, isn't it that you have what we call

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Speaker 4: the Christmas holidays, but they are actually sometimes busier and

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Speaker 4: even more stressful than the work week.

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Speaker 2: You always need a holiday after holiod, there's no doubt

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Speaker 2: about it. Yeah, especially around Christmas. Like you say, you

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Speaker 2: can be exhausted. This is why I reckon. One of

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Speaker 2: the compulsory things for the summer holidays are afternoon naps.

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Speaker 2: I'm a big fan of afternoon naps in the summer holidays.

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Speaker 2: For me, it's almost the biggest luxury of the holidays.

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Speaker 4: Absolutely.

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Speaker 2: Anyway, Hey, you want to put an end to something

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Speaker 2: that mcs do at fancy social functions.

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Speaker 5: Kevin.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, this may seem a small thing, but I

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Speaker 4: think it's something we should get rid of. Why is

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Speaker 4: it often and glamorous circumstances, you know, surroundings ahead of

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Speaker 4: sumptuous dinners and stunning entertainment. Why is it that mcs

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Speaker 4: kick off the show with the dullest line in public

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Speaker 4: speaking personally, ladies and gentlemen, a few household matters, at

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Speaker 4: which point the audience, who all consider they've been at

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Speaker 4: laboratories and where to go if there's an earthquake. It's

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Speaker 4: a total atmosphere wrecker. Household matters may, of course, not

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Speaker 4: be the MC's idea. Event organizers often insist m says

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Speaker 4: kick off the show in this tedious way. You'd sear

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Speaker 4: it was a legal requirement, but it isn't. If I'm

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Speaker 4: asked as an MC to go through the household matters routine,

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Speaker 4: I put up a fight. Here's why. On the way in,

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Speaker 4: guests will likely have noticed doors with a sign that

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Speaker 4: says toilet. Toilet signs are there to tell you that

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Speaker 4: down on that occasion, you can simply ask someone where

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Speaker 4: are the toilets? No need for housekeeping announcements. When the

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Speaker 4: MT comes out, the audience has wound up for the

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Speaker 4: big occasion. They can't wait for the first joke or

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Speaker 4: permission to eat or the first performance. The last thing

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Speaker 4: they're after are directions to the laboratories. So my plead

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Speaker 4: to event organizes. If you have housekeeping matters to share,

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Speaker 4: stick a sign up somewhere, but do yourselves a favor.

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Speaker 4: Don't kill the atmosphere by starting the whole show or

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Speaker 4: indeed funeral explaining where the dunnies are. We're not stupid.

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Speaker 2: I'm with you. I'm one hundred percent with you on this. Kevin,

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Speaker 2: as someone who gets asked to do these things from

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Speaker 2: don't need to talk about the bogs because everyone can

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Speaker 2: work that out, and if they can't work it out,

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Speaker 2: hopefully they'll last someone. But when it comes to the

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Speaker 2: emergency information, that's probably reasonable, right, obviously depending on the circumstance,

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Speaker 2: but I use think is probably reasonable.

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Speaker 4: I think given that if there's an earthquake, what we're

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Speaker 4: all sold is to drop and hold on to something.

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Speaker 4: I think anything beyond that's unnecessary. Telling us where we

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Speaker 4: all should at that point where we should all gather. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: it's going to be forgotten if there is a lad.

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Speaker 4: Hi Jack, Welcome back.

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Speaker 6: Happy New Year.

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Speaker 2: Yes, Happy New Year. It's it's been a well, it's

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Speaker 8: Not only because he's doing it in the best league

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Speaker 2: Next up, your movie picks for this week, including Cameron

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Speaker 2: Storks end Meet you with Jack Taying this Saturday, and

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Speaker 2: Morning spells with me A note morning Jack, Glad you

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Speaker 2: age of fourteen. I'm seventy five. Just hung up my

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Speaker 2: hunting boots, but I'll still get out there for a

429
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Speaker 2: walk and You'll never be disappointed doing the same. Thanks Phil. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I just it is. There's something there's something I dare

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Speaker 2: I say, almost spiritual or something about just being out

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Speaker 2: in an environment and not singing or hearing people. It's

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Speaker 2: not that I don't like being in cities. It's not

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Speaker 2: that I don't like socializing and being connected from time

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Speaker 2: to time, but just once in a while, it reminds

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Speaker 2: one of one's own insignificance in the cosmos, doesn't it anyway?

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Speaker 2: Thanks for ninety two ninety two. If you want to

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Speaker 2: send us a message. Francesca Rudkin is here with our

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Speaker 2: film picks for this week. Killed are good morning, Hey,

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Speaker 2: thank you very much for holding the Ford over over

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Speaker 2: the last couple of weeks and doing all the tough stuff.

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Speaker 2: It's some nice year always. I hope you've had a

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Speaker 2: bit of a bit of a summer in between.

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Speaker 10: Nice to have you back. I have been loving summer.

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Speaker 10: But I'm going to take off tomorrow afternoon for a week,

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Speaker 10: which would be very.

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Speaker 2: Good, very good. Okay, We've got a couple of well,

448
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Speaker 2: rather different films for us this morning. Cameron DS is

449
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Speaker 2: back for her first film, her comeback film with first

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Speaker 2: in a decade, alongside Jamie Fox. Let's have a listen

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Speaker 2: to back in action.

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Speaker 11: What is going on? Like Jason Boy?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but we remember stuff, can you?

454
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Speaker 10: You guys were lying about something but another though you

455
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Speaker 10: recall I mean, that's not why We're cool.

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Speaker 2: Okay, that's Cameron d Is So she's back.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, it's been a liven year break. That's her first

458
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Speaker 10: sort of throw back into acting. This was also the

459
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Speaker 10: film as well that Jamie Fox who Coaster, had his

460
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Speaker 10: stroke on, so it was a bit of a difficult production,

461
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Speaker 10: but they got through it in the end. Look, a

462
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Speaker 10: lot of people might have gone back to work. It

463
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Speaker 10: might the year might be a little bit daunting. You

464
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Speaker 10: might be thinking, oh my gosh, here we go again,

465
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Speaker 10: back into routine, and you just need some really mindless

466
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Speaker 10: fun escapism at the end of the week. And this

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Speaker 10: film very much ticks that box.

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Speaker 12: It's on Netflix.

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Speaker 10: We watched it at a busy week and my partner

470
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Speaker 10: laughed a little bit too much. I thought, Jack, oh, okay,

471
00:25:45,693 --> 00:25:47,333
Speaker 10: I was like to do it's really not that funny,

472
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Speaker 10: but just kind of clearly need something really yeah fun

473
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Speaker 10: and Celey to watch and I was just like, it

474
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Speaker 10: was quite funny watching him. It is wonderfully unbelievable. The

475
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Speaker 10: story about these two spies. They fall in love.

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Speaker 12: This is you know, Cameron and Jamie.

477
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Speaker 10: She gets pregnant, they decided to leave the business and

478
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Speaker 10: they go dark and they end up in there, and

479
00:26:06,773 --> 00:26:09,693
Speaker 10: they've got these two kids and that don't really like them.

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Speaker 10: They're teenagers, and they are suddenly dragged back into the

481
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Speaker 10: old business and they just happen to take the kids

482
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Speaker 10: with them, So all of a sudden, the kids think

483
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Speaker 10: they're quite cool because they discover that their parents are spies.

484
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Speaker 10: Not for all the terrible, fake looking stunts and action,

485
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Speaker 10: this is actually a bit of a family comedy. The

486
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Speaker 10: funniest lines and things are between Jamie Fox and Kimer

487
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Speaker 10: and Dia is when they're pretending to be normal parents

488
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Speaker 10: when clearly they're not. It's quite a good gag and

489
00:26:34,813 --> 00:26:37,693
Speaker 10: it does present some very funny lines, and the two

490
00:26:37,733 --> 00:26:40,053
Speaker 10: of them are awesome together, Like the chemistry between them

491
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Speaker 10: is really really good. It's very very easy to watch

492
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Speaker 10: this film. But yeah, no, just good night entertainment from

493
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Speaker 10: Seth Gordon. He's the director of films like Horrible Bosses

494
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Speaker 10: and they watch film and things like that.

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Speaker 12: So yeah, light and easy and breezy jack.

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Speaker 2: It sounds good, sounds like a bit of fun, which

497
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Speaker 2: is perfectly reasonable at this time of year. So that's

498
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Speaker 2: back in action. That's on Netflix, and next film is

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Speaker 2: showing in cinemas at the moment. So let's have a

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Speaker 2: listen to We Live in Time. I'm so sorry each.

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Speaker 9: Other yet no.

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Speaker 3: I run you over.

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Speaker 13: Dry Sorry.

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Speaker 2: Okay, that's Florence Few and Andrew Garfield starring together.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, so this is We Live in Time. This is

506
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Speaker 12: on at the cinemas, and this is quite different. This

507
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Speaker 12: is a beautiful, a very.

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Speaker 10: Emotional, heartbreaking, warm film. It's a romantic drama. Florence Pew

509
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Speaker 10: and Andrew Garfield. Once again, probably the chemistry between them

510
00:27:42,493 --> 00:27:45,693
Speaker 10: is what makes this film work. It's just lovely watching

511
00:27:45,733 --> 00:27:47,853
Speaker 10: these two fall in love. You kind of heard how

512
00:27:47,893 --> 00:27:52,053
Speaker 10: they met just in the trailer there. But they're very relatable,

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Speaker 10: likable characters, but also quite unique like they have you know,

514
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Speaker 10: it's not like you're just being presented with sort of

515
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Speaker 10: a cookie cut or of a character. But the film

516
00:28:04,813 --> 00:28:07,813
Speaker 10: is about more than just love. Is about becoming a parent.

517
00:28:07,933 --> 00:28:09,933
Speaker 10: Is it about dealing with what life throws at you.

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00:28:10,053 --> 00:28:12,613
Speaker 10: It is about living with a terminal illness, It is

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Speaker 10: about grief. And the film is told in a nonlinear structure,

520
00:28:16,773 --> 00:28:19,573
Speaker 10: so we're constantly moving back and forward in time, so

521
00:28:19,693 --> 00:28:24,653
Speaker 10: where throughout the film learning more about these characters and

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Speaker 10: who they are.

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Speaker 12: As the story progresses.

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Speaker 10: Which I think was quite a good idea because if

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Speaker 10: you sort of strip it back, the story is quite generic.

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Speaker 10: It's quite a predictable tedu because that just makes it

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Speaker 10: a little bit more interesting.

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Speaker 12: But at the end of the day, it's all about

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Speaker 12: the performances.

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Speaker 10: They are excellent, and through them, I believe we get

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Speaker 10: very genuine observations of what it is like to be

532
00:28:46,133 --> 00:28:51,093
Speaker 10: diagnosed with cancer, the thoughts, the decisions, the conversations that

533
00:28:51,133 --> 00:28:53,173
Speaker 10: you have to have with your loved ones around you.

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Speaker 10: And I suppose, in a way, just a little bit

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Speaker 10: of a warning there if this is something that you

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00:28:56,973 --> 00:28:59,653
Speaker 10: have been through, it maybe a little bit triggering, take

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Speaker 10: some tissues. There is no way that you cannot fall

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Speaker 10: in love with these two and go on this rollercoaster

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Speaker 10: ride with them.

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Speaker 12: It short produces a few tears.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, so that's we live in time showing in

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Speaker 2: cinemas at the moment. Hey, were you into Severance a

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Speaker 2: TV show?

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Speaker 12: Do you know?

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Speaker 14: I haven't done.

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Speaker 12: That's one I have not done. But I've heard a

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Speaker 12: lot of people talk about the second season.

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Speaker 3: Now I might give it a whirl.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, see, I haven't done it either. I've been debating

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Speaker 2: it because it has had a lot of hype, a

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00:29:27,733 --> 00:29:29,973
Speaker 2: lot of bars. It sounds a little bit different as well,

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Speaker 2: which kind of attracts me. But we're going to talk

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Speaker 2: about that after ten o'clock this morning in our screen

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Speaker 2: time segments. So I wondered if you if you've gone there,

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Speaker 2: because it does sound like an interesting concept at the

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Speaker 2: very least. But thank you so much, Francisca. You enjoy

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Speaker 2: your week off, you're well earned week off, and we

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Speaker 2: will catch you again very soon. Francisca's films once again,

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Speaker 2: Back in Action is showing on Netflix. That's the one

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Speaker 2: with Cameron Diaz and Jamie Fox. We live in Time

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Speaker 2: as the Tearjerker in that showing at the movies at

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Speaker 2: the moment. And like I say, after ten o'clock this morning,

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Speaker 2: we've got three shows to recommend to you in our

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Speaker 2: screen time segments. So if you're just feeling like vegging

565
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Speaker 2: out at home, maybe you're in Tasman where those heavy

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Speaker 2: rain warnings are coming through. Three shows for you, including Severance.

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Speaker 2: Right now at sixteen to ten, you were Jactaime on

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Speaker 2: News talks Edby.

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Speaker 1: Saturday Mornings with Jack Team keeping the conversation going through

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Speaker 1: the weekend with bepure dot COT dot inst for high

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Speaker 1: Quality Supplements used talks EDB.

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Speaker 2: So I reckon the peaches have been par which is

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Speaker 2: to say they're delicious, but I reckon about parik when

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00:30:26,933 --> 00:30:29,453
Speaker 2: they're delicious most year. Same with the nectarines. I reckon

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Speaker 2: the cherries this year, there's something about the cherries. I

576
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Speaker 2: don't know what it was about the cherries this year.

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Speaker 2: The cherries have been above par. They've been extraordinary this year.

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Speaker 2: We're getting through about a kilogram every three days at

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Speaker 2: our place, which has not been cheap. But never mind.

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Speaker 2: There is just something about the stone fruit at this

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Speaker 2: time of year. And I know that our cook, Nikki

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Speaker 2: Wicks will have some thoughts on this. That makes this

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Speaker 2: time of year and your fruit intake over summer that

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Speaker 2: much higher than usual.

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Speaker 15: More dinner, morenner Jack, And you are so right about

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Speaker 15: all of that. And the cherries have been and you've

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Speaker 15: just made me realize you could use cherries in this

588
00:31:01,933 --> 00:31:04,813
Speaker 15: recipe instead of the plant. I do either, because I

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00:31:04,933 --> 00:31:07,213
Speaker 15: agree that cherries have all I mean. I'm going to

590
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Speaker 15: do a wild exaggeration here the size of plugs.

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Speaker 2: I was so embarrassed because the other day do you

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Speaker 2: follow Tom Sainsbury on Instagram? Yeah, so I do too,

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Speaker 2: And I swear that my wife and I had been

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Speaker 2: doing this thing, being like, I'm just going to have

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Speaker 2: one more cheery. I'm just gonna have one more cheery,

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00:31:24,053 --> 00:31:25,653
Speaker 2: We're saying at home, and then you have a whole

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00:31:25,653 --> 00:31:27,733
Speaker 2: bowl more in and then you do it again, you

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00:31:27,813 --> 00:31:30,173
Speaker 2: go and replenish the bowl and you have another and anyway,

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Speaker 2: we've been doing this and then she handed me her

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Speaker 2: phone and it was Tom Sainsby on Instagram putting on

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Speaker 2: a character and one one of his characters, and the

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Speaker 2: character was saying, I'm just gonna have one more cheery.

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Speaker 2: I'm just gonna have one more, just one more, and

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Speaker 2: I was like, oh god, I often.

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Speaker 15: Think Tom Sainsbury actually is filming me at home. Yes, yeah, yes,

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Speaker 15: I know. I'm like, oh no, that is me.

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Speaker 9: Hey.

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Speaker 15: It's funny because in New Zealand we focus on cherries

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Speaker 15: around Christmas and that's all very well, but I'm going

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Speaker 15: to say the ones that we get really after Christmas,

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Speaker 15: particularly in January, I totally agree tho they're later and

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Speaker 15: they tend to come from Central Otago. So Hawk's Bay

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Speaker 15: nothing against Hawks Bay of course, but all of their

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00:32:14,213 --> 00:32:19,013
Speaker 15: stone fruits starts fruiting before Central Otago. Well maybe it's

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Speaker 15: just that those ones later in the season seem extra especially,

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Speaker 15: but I bought two kilos yesterday for fourteen dollars and

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Speaker 15: they are just beautiful. And so if you want to

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Speaker 15: stone them for this recipe, if you haven't got plums,

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Speaker 15: all you do I get a chopstick that I'm you know,

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Speaker 15: one of those takeout chopsticks, and you put that and

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Speaker 15: you just push the pip out with that.

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Speaker 2: Ah, that's smart, and you just get.

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Speaker 15: Not the purpose stone, so you'll just push them out

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Speaker 15: and it's fine. I better get onto this rest of

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Speaker 15: Italian plum or cherry ricottitart. It's amazing. You make a

626
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Speaker 15: mixture which is going to be our base in our topping,

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00:32:54,093 --> 00:32:56,973
Speaker 15: and here's how you do it. And a food process.

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Speaker 15: You just blitz up one and a half cups of flour.

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Speaker 15: You'd probably use gluten free flour. If you're gonna use

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Speaker 15: gluten free, go one and a quarter cups one hundred grams,

631
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Speaker 15: which is at a cup of ground almonds, two big

632
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Speaker 15: heaped tablespoons of raw sugar, and then one teaspoon of

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Speaker 15: baking powder and blitz all that up together just so

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Speaker 15: that it's mixed, and then add in the butter seventy

635
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Speaker 15: five grams of butter and process until you've got some

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Speaker 15: fine crumbs, and then at the end just blitz in

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Speaker 15: an egg. So you kind of have these coarse crumbs, Jack,

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Speaker 15: and that is gonna. They should hold together when you

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Speaker 15: pinch them together. And so what do you want to

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Speaker 15: do is you want to take just a little bit

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Speaker 15: more than half of that mixture and you want to

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Speaker 15: press it into a ceramic pie dish. I used one

643
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Speaker 15: that was about I think it was about twenty three

644
00:33:40,573 --> 00:33:45,293
Speaker 15: twenty four centimeters across. Oven bangs on at one hundred

645
00:33:45,293 --> 00:33:48,733
Speaker 15: and eighty degrees. So you press that into the bottom

646
00:33:48,813 --> 00:33:51,053
Speaker 15: and the sides of it, and that is our lovely base,

647
00:33:51,133 --> 00:33:53,693
Speaker 15: and then you can just chill that while you're doing

648
00:33:53,733 --> 00:33:56,533
Speaker 15: the filling. The filling is four hundred grams of ricotta,

649
00:33:57,213 --> 00:34:02,493
Speaker 15: two tablespoons of sugar, and seventy five mills of sweet

650
00:34:02,493 --> 00:34:05,253
Speaker 15: dessert wine if you've got it. You could probably use

651
00:34:05,373 --> 00:34:08,413
Speaker 15: orange juice or something like that. I'm Italian recipee, so

652
00:34:08,493 --> 00:34:11,773
Speaker 15: they've used beautiful dessert wine, zest of a lemon, and

653
00:34:11,813 --> 00:34:13,573
Speaker 15: you want to kind of mix all of that together.

654
00:34:13,973 --> 00:34:15,693
Speaker 15: I like it so that you've still got some quite

655
00:34:15,733 --> 00:34:19,053
Speaker 15: big clumps of ricotta in there. Pour that mixture into

656
00:34:19,093 --> 00:34:22,413
Speaker 15: the chilled crust, and then on top, puts slice about

657
00:34:22,453 --> 00:34:26,813
Speaker 15: six to eight plums and all your cherries. I mean

658
00:34:26,853 --> 00:34:29,573
Speaker 15: you might need to use maybe a cup of pitted cherries.

659
00:34:29,613 --> 00:34:32,093
Speaker 15: Sounds about right to me. Put that all over there.

660
00:34:32,133 --> 00:34:34,933
Speaker 15: I used yellow plums. Black doris would be amazing. I'm

661
00:34:35,133 --> 00:34:38,653
Speaker 15: sitting on a beautiful bucket of black doris that someone's

662
00:34:38,693 --> 00:34:41,333
Speaker 15: dropped me off, So those are good too. Cool with

663
00:34:41,373 --> 00:34:43,493
Speaker 15: the rest of the crumb mixture, and then just bake

664
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Speaker 15: it off for about forty to forty five minutes, Jack

665
00:34:45,973 --> 00:34:49,373
Speaker 15: call it. Serve it room temperature, A chill, big doll

666
00:34:49,413 --> 00:34:53,293
Speaker 15: of a beautiful whipped cream. It's amazing. It's very delicate,

667
00:34:53,333 --> 00:34:56,973
Speaker 15: it's not too sweet, and it's just absolutely beautiful. I mean,

668
00:34:57,013 --> 00:35:01,053
Speaker 15: Italians do such gorgeous cakes and tarts and things that

669
00:35:01,133 --> 00:35:03,373
Speaker 15: I think you'll love this. And yeah, the cherries, I'm

670
00:35:03,373 --> 00:35:05,533
Speaker 15: actually gonna try it with the cherries. I've forgotten about that.

671
00:35:05,733 --> 00:35:08,213
Speaker 2: Yeah, So just just going through the rear, I mean

672
00:35:08,253 --> 00:35:12,413
Speaker 2: you've got only what four tablespoons of sugar and that

673
00:35:12,613 --> 00:35:14,413
Speaker 2: and the whole thing. Obviously you've got the fruit as well,

674
00:35:14,613 --> 00:35:16,973
Speaker 2: so that that has its own sweetness. But there's actually

675
00:35:17,013 --> 00:35:18,493
Speaker 2: yeah it's not too sweet. You've got the or you've

676
00:35:18,493 --> 00:35:20,653
Speaker 2: got the dessert mine as well. Yeah, it's a little.

677
00:35:22,613 --> 00:35:24,693
Speaker 15: Lying on the you're relying on the fruit to give

678
00:35:24,693 --> 00:35:27,213
Speaker 15: it the sweetness. And you know, we've kind of followed

679
00:35:27,213 --> 00:35:29,893
Speaker 15: that American if you like a model in the UK

680
00:35:30,053 --> 00:35:33,253
Speaker 15: model too of sweet sweet cakes. Yeah, you know, like

681
00:35:33,293 --> 00:35:35,653
Speaker 15: you you've got to remember that almonds have a sweetness

682
00:35:35,693 --> 00:35:39,253
Speaker 15: to them. If you have a raw almond, it's quite sweet.

683
00:35:39,653 --> 00:35:42,173
Speaker 15: So yeah, you don't. You don't need a whole bunch

684
00:35:42,213 --> 00:35:45,053
Speaker 15: of sugar in your baking. So there you go.

685
00:35:45,573 --> 00:35:49,453
Speaker 2: You especially. Yeah, and when you're offsetting the yeah, the

686
00:35:49,933 --> 00:35:51,533
Speaker 2: ricarda and the armis, so you have that kind of

687
00:35:51,573 --> 00:35:56,413
Speaker 2: fat content as well. Yeah, really good, it's really good.

688
00:35:57,013 --> 00:35:59,493
Speaker 15: I also want to encourage our beautiful listeners though as well.

689
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Speaker 15: I just made a huge batch of I Love Tomato

690
00:36:03,133 --> 00:36:04,573
Speaker 15: or I Love Casundi.

691
00:36:04,093 --> 00:36:06,733
Speaker 2: Which is an yeah, like a relish.

692
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Speaker 15: I did it yesterday. Yeah, I did it two days

693
00:36:08,893 --> 00:36:10,653
Speaker 15: ago with plums.

694
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Speaker 2: Oh nice, Doris.

695
00:36:12,613 --> 00:36:14,533
Speaker 15: I just put the same amount of black Doris plums

696
00:36:14,533 --> 00:36:18,253
Speaker 15: as I would have tomatoes, and it's beautiful, slightly more liquidy,

697
00:36:18,293 --> 00:36:21,173
Speaker 15: but not really. It's this deep dark purple and it's

698
00:36:21,413 --> 00:36:22,173
Speaker 15: really yummy.

699
00:36:22,413 --> 00:36:22,613
Speaker 4: Yeah.

700
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Speaker 15: So if people want to just search up my micro

701
00:36:24,973 --> 00:36:28,333
Speaker 15: sundi recipe, and yes it does have four tablespoons of

702
00:36:28,493 --> 00:36:30,813
Speaker 15: chili in it. You can pare that back if you want,

703
00:36:30,813 --> 00:36:32,533
Speaker 15: but there's a ton of sugar in the to offset it,

704
00:36:32,613 --> 00:36:34,533
Speaker 15: so you don't need to see you. It's kind of

705
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Speaker 15: to rest me idea.

706
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm into it, and I'm glad that you're finding

707
00:36:37,693 --> 00:36:39,173
Speaker 2: I mean, you always need a way to preserve the

708
00:36:39,173 --> 00:36:41,133
Speaker 2: plums a little bit because there is such an abundance

709
00:36:41,253 --> 00:36:42,253
Speaker 2: stone for it at this time of you.

710
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Speaker 15: I just love them.

711
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, fantastic. Thanks Ockey, have a great weekend, and

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Speaker 2: we will talk to you again this time next week.

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Speaker 2: You're you know It is remarkable. So twenty five years ago,

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Speaker 2: David Gray was renowned for just how famous he wasn't

762
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Speaker 2: He had a bit of a cult following at the time.

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Speaker 2: He had listeners who were hooked on his sincerity on

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765
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766
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Speaker 2: best selling albums of this century so far. David's l

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Speaker 2: Deer Life. If you were listening this time last week

771
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772
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Speaker 2: launched it. Now he's headed out on the road and

774
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Speaker 2: he joins us this morning. David Gray Kelder, Good morning

775
00:40:24,253 --> 00:40:25,093
Speaker 2: and welcome to the show.

776
00:40:25,973 --> 00:40:26,813
Speaker 17: Thank you.

777
00:40:26,813 --> 00:40:29,733
Speaker 2: You're just about to begin your tours, so you're in

778
00:40:29,773 --> 00:40:32,813
Speaker 2: Boston at the moment, gearing up for a wee while

779
00:40:32,853 --> 00:40:33,333
Speaker 2: on the road.

780
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Speaker 17: Yeah, it's going to be down the rapid style touring

781
00:40:37,453 --> 00:40:39,573
Speaker 17: for the next few months. I think we've got fifty

782
00:40:39,613 --> 00:40:42,773
Speaker 17: shows between now and the beginning of May, so it's

783
00:40:42,813 --> 00:40:45,493
Speaker 17: going to be for a bunch of old farts like us.

784
00:40:45,493 --> 00:40:47,013
Speaker 17: It's going to be a bit of a challenge, but

785
00:40:47,373 --> 00:40:49,213
Speaker 17: we're up, We're ready.

786
00:40:49,613 --> 00:40:54,533
Speaker 2: Fifty shows is no small total or achievement. How do

787
00:40:54,573 --> 00:40:57,173
Speaker 2: you approach a kind of workload.

788
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Speaker 17: Like that, Yeah, first of all, by just trying to

789
00:41:01,053 --> 00:41:05,213
Speaker 17: condition myself, so by playing a lot and practicing a

790
00:41:05,213 --> 00:41:08,653
Speaker 17: lot ahead of the actual rehearsals so that I'm in

791
00:41:08,693 --> 00:41:13,293
Speaker 17: good condition vocally, because it's going to be very demanding

792
00:41:13,293 --> 00:41:16,693
Speaker 17: when you step on the stage. It's very different than

793
00:41:16,733 --> 00:41:19,293
Speaker 17: when you rehearse. When I rehearse, I give it everything,

794
00:41:19,333 --> 00:41:20,453
Speaker 17: but when I go on the stage, I give it

795
00:41:20,493 --> 00:41:23,933
Speaker 17: everything plus a bit more. So it takes a lot

796
00:41:23,933 --> 00:41:26,173
Speaker 17: out of your voice. The voice is the most vulnerable

797
00:41:26,813 --> 00:41:29,733
Speaker 17: part of the whole equation. So that's the part that

798
00:41:30,213 --> 00:41:31,813
Speaker 17: I wish I could put it in a flight case

799
00:41:31,893 --> 00:41:34,333
Speaker 17: and ship it from show to show, but it doesn't

800
00:41:34,373 --> 00:41:35,813
Speaker 17: work that way. I'm going to talk to all these

801
00:41:35,893 --> 00:41:38,893
Speaker 17: lunatics that I hang around with the whole time, so

802
00:41:39,813 --> 00:41:43,173
Speaker 17: it's constantly being used. So yes, it puts a lot

803
00:41:43,173 --> 00:41:45,293
Speaker 17: of stress on the voice, which is just a beam

804
00:41:45,333 --> 00:41:49,013
Speaker 17: of energy. And obviously this is an exhaustion cycle. We're

805
00:41:49,053 --> 00:41:51,773
Speaker 17: just going to be traveling every night and getting up

806
00:41:51,773 --> 00:41:56,213
Speaker 17: in a different place, sound checking, gig travel, so and

807
00:41:56,253 --> 00:41:58,533
Speaker 17: there'll be lots of adrenaline thrown in and a few

808
00:41:58,573 --> 00:42:01,213
Speaker 17: glasses of Champagne, I dare say, and god knows what else,

809
00:42:01,893 --> 00:42:04,853
Speaker 17: So it'll be all the bells and whistles. It's going

810
00:42:04,933 --> 00:42:07,693
Speaker 17: to be amazing. I think it's the most sort of

811
00:42:07,733 --> 00:42:10,773
Speaker 17: compact and intense period of touring I've done for quite

812
00:42:10,773 --> 00:42:15,333
Speaker 17: a while. So yeah, and that's just the way it's

813
00:42:15,413 --> 00:42:18,453
Speaker 17: worked this time. But we're all crazy for it with

814
00:42:18,533 --> 00:42:22,173
Speaker 17: the tickets have gone so well, that's what really sort

815
00:42:22,173 --> 00:42:24,533
Speaker 17: of sets up your anticipation.

816
00:42:25,893 --> 00:42:29,813
Speaker 2: Well, I can speak on behalf of our audience and

817
00:42:30,213 --> 00:42:33,133
Speaker 2: confirm that people are just delighted to have you back

818
00:42:33,453 --> 00:42:35,813
Speaker 2: and delighted with your life. So can you talk to

819
00:42:35,893 --> 00:42:37,933
Speaker 2: us a little bit about the process behind this album,

820
00:42:37,933 --> 00:42:40,853
Speaker 2: because five years right from go to WO, if you

821
00:42:40,893 --> 00:42:43,693
Speaker 2: include the mastering, this was quite a process, and over

822
00:42:43,773 --> 00:42:45,893
Speaker 2: a particularly tumultuous time in the world.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 17: I think I did put out Scaling during Lockdown in

825
00:42:52,333 --> 00:42:55,413
Speaker 17: twenty one, so it's a few years since that record,

826
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Speaker 17: But obviously I had all the obligations of the touring

827
00:42:59,373 --> 00:43:03,493
Speaker 17: that was frozen by the COVID pandemic that I had

828
00:43:03,493 --> 00:43:07,813
Speaker 17: to then pick up after two and twenty three had

829
00:43:07,933 --> 00:43:12,213
Speaker 17: quite a few touring commitments, so it's slowed the making

830
00:43:12,213 --> 00:43:14,693
Speaker 17: of this record down, which had begun just before COVID.

831
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Speaker 17: But I think perhaps the songwriting process was enriched by

832
00:43:19,053 --> 00:43:24,533
Speaker 17: what happened in so much as I mean, I'm getting older,

833
00:43:24,613 --> 00:43:27,933
Speaker 17: so mortality is a kind of theme anyway. It always

834
00:43:28,013 --> 00:43:30,493
Speaker 17: is with me really ever since my dad died. I

835
00:43:30,493 --> 00:43:34,133
Speaker 17: think I saw something. I was up close and watched

836
00:43:34,213 --> 00:43:37,933
Speaker 17: him die, and that changes your perspective on things, just

837
00:43:37,973 --> 00:43:40,973
Speaker 17: like watching one of your children being born. It's a

838
00:43:41,053 --> 00:43:45,053
Speaker 17: privilege to be there. And obviously when you see the

839
00:43:45,133 --> 00:43:50,413
Speaker 17: sort of parentheses that hold our fragile little lives, you

840
00:43:50,933 --> 00:43:55,333
Speaker 17: reassess everything. And I think you know, in our Western culture,

841
00:43:55,373 --> 00:43:58,053
Speaker 17: death is not an acknowledged part of things, and in fact,

842
00:43:58,093 --> 00:44:02,693
Speaker 17: everyone's straining every sinew and pumping every lip with something

843
00:44:02,733 --> 00:44:06,213
Speaker 17: to make them look younger, so they're all trying to

844
00:44:06,413 --> 00:44:10,173
Speaker 17: sort of shrug off the aging process. But COVID slowed

845
00:44:10,213 --> 00:44:14,693
Speaker 17: us down. It took the constellation of constant activity, and

846
00:44:14,933 --> 00:44:17,573
Speaker 17: it took the horizon away. We were just in a

847
00:44:17,613 --> 00:44:22,693
Speaker 17: moment that was very elongated. And also we're just studying

848
00:44:22,773 --> 00:44:25,813
Speaker 17: death graphs all the time, so it was a sort

849
00:44:25,813 --> 00:44:29,813
Speaker 17: of again, it was a terrible time in so many ways,

850
00:44:29,813 --> 00:44:32,333
Speaker 17: with so many people, but it was a huge blessing

851
00:44:32,373 --> 00:44:34,893
Speaker 17: in other ways if you were lucky enough not to

852
00:44:34,933 --> 00:44:37,413
Speaker 17: lose anyone or have to go through the torment of

853
00:44:37,813 --> 00:44:41,133
Speaker 17: knowing someone was suffering and you couldn't be there. But

854
00:44:42,693 --> 00:44:46,613
Speaker 17: this all I ambiently fed in, I think to probably

855
00:44:46,653 --> 00:44:52,373
Speaker 17: my natural inclinations. My life has been a bit turbulent

856
00:44:52,573 --> 00:44:56,093
Speaker 17: for a while, with various big relationships and changes that

857
00:44:56,133 --> 00:45:00,613
Speaker 17: have gone kind of by the by, as it were,

858
00:45:00,773 --> 00:45:04,493
Speaker 17: and so perhaps there was more grist to the mill

859
00:45:04,613 --> 00:45:07,573
Speaker 17: as well. But I don't know why. Certain albums come

860
00:45:07,613 --> 00:45:10,533
Speaker 17: out with a greater sense of themselves, a greater sense

861
00:45:10,533 --> 00:45:14,693
Speaker 17: of purpose. I'm always making things. It's often quite interior

862
00:45:14,773 --> 00:45:18,773
Speaker 17: or slightly oblique, but these songs are very, very direct,

863
00:45:19,133 --> 00:45:21,573
Speaker 17: and the what I say about them is they were

864
00:45:21,573 --> 00:45:24,693
Speaker 17: born standing up. They're sort of they were ready to go,

865
00:45:24,813 --> 00:45:28,173
Speaker 17: and they're very melodic, and they're straight to camera that

866
00:45:28,373 --> 00:45:32,693
Speaker 17: they're not cutting any strange angles away, they're not hiding themselves.

867
00:45:32,693 --> 00:45:35,213
Speaker 17: They're very and that's not to say that they don't

868
00:45:35,253 --> 00:45:40,173
Speaker 17: play games. Within that that that fixed gaze. There's a

869
00:45:40,213 --> 00:45:43,813
Speaker 17: lot of humor, there's a lot of delicacy, I think

870
00:45:43,893 --> 00:45:46,053
Speaker 17: in but it was just such a pleasure to write.

871
00:45:46,173 --> 00:45:49,293
Speaker 17: I mean, first and foremost, I'm a lyric writer. That's

872
00:45:49,373 --> 00:45:52,653
Speaker 17: my obsession, and like Frank Sinatra said, for me, the

873
00:45:52,773 --> 00:45:56,253
Speaker 17: music props up the lyrics. So you know, if there's

874
00:45:56,293 --> 00:45:58,933
Speaker 17: been a trend in my writing since I started, it's

875
00:45:58,973 --> 00:46:03,613
Speaker 17: probably been to simplify. But with this record, the lying,

876
00:46:03,853 --> 00:46:07,573
Speaker 17: the rhyming schemes just became more elaborate, the language was

877
00:46:07,653 --> 00:46:12,613
Speaker 17: more ornate, and just the beautiful magic of words, the

878
00:46:12,653 --> 00:46:18,933
Speaker 17: substance of words. It's a music in itself, and it

879
00:46:19,573 --> 00:46:23,813
Speaker 17: lent such a joyous energy to the process of making

880
00:46:24,333 --> 00:46:27,173
Speaker 17: That doesn't belie what the emotion is underneath some of

881
00:46:27,213 --> 00:46:30,653
Speaker 17: the songs, but the pleasure of the rhyming scheme helps

882
00:46:30,693 --> 00:46:34,493
Speaker 17: to sort of create the Trojan Horse effect where it

883
00:46:34,573 --> 00:46:37,733
Speaker 17: almost like hypnotizes you as the per performer and as

884
00:46:37,733 --> 00:46:41,493
Speaker 17: the listener, and first of all, your dark, your ears,

885
00:46:41,533 --> 00:46:44,693
Speaker 17: and your mind are moving with the rhythm and the words,

886
00:46:44,813 --> 00:46:49,893
Speaker 17: and then the meaning comes along afterwards. So it's sort

887
00:46:49,893 --> 00:46:52,213
Speaker 17: of that sort of my take on the whole thing.

888
00:46:52,373 --> 00:46:55,693
Speaker 17: It has a kind of electronic y kind of aspect

889
00:46:56,333 --> 00:46:58,893
Speaker 17: to this album, which was going to be there from

890
00:46:58,933 --> 00:47:01,653
Speaker 17: the beginning. So when we started in twenty nineteen, I

891
00:47:01,773 --> 00:47:04,813
Speaker 17: bought these little drum machines and I was jamming in

892
00:47:04,893 --> 00:47:07,973
Speaker 17: sort of real time the drum machines while my producer

893
00:47:08,053 --> 00:47:10,813
Speaker 17: was sort of messing with the sounds, and I said,

894
00:47:10,813 --> 00:47:12,373
Speaker 17: this is the way I want to go. I want

895
00:47:12,373 --> 00:47:14,533
Speaker 17: it to be like a sort of hybrid form, a

896
00:47:14,573 --> 00:47:17,333
Speaker 17: bit like White Ladder in that it's me sort of

897
00:47:17,333 --> 00:47:22,253
Speaker 17: being very free lyrically and expressive with my guitar over

898
00:47:22,293 --> 00:47:25,493
Speaker 17: the top of something that's very rooted and stuck in

899
00:47:25,573 --> 00:47:29,173
Speaker 17: this thing, but with these crazy distorted sounds. So songs

900
00:47:29,253 --> 00:47:32,613
Speaker 17: like Acceptance and more than anything, these were the first

901
00:47:32,693 --> 00:47:35,733
Speaker 17: ones that came out. But yeah, the song burst, the

902
00:47:35,773 --> 00:47:38,253
Speaker 17: star burst of songwriting that happened at the very end

903
00:47:38,293 --> 00:47:40,893
Speaker 17: of COVID was when most of the songs were written.

904
00:47:40,933 --> 00:47:43,093
Speaker 17: And as I say, that process seemed to have been

905
00:47:43,213 --> 00:47:46,253
Speaker 17: enriched by a period of not doing it. I let

906
00:47:46,293 --> 00:47:49,773
Speaker 17: the field go fallow, and it took a bit of

907
00:47:49,813 --> 00:47:54,293
Speaker 17: courage to stop because my gut reaction to the lockdown

908
00:47:54,373 --> 00:47:56,133
Speaker 17: was I'm going to go down into my studio and

909
00:47:56,173 --> 00:48:01,333
Speaker 17: make an album on my own. Lots of creatives. I

910
00:48:01,453 --> 00:48:05,373
Speaker 17: made this stupid era really of thinking I just sort

911
00:48:05,373 --> 00:48:09,493
Speaker 17: of service as formal, but it ultimately the pressure of

912
00:48:09,573 --> 00:48:13,173
Speaker 17: the weirdness of the situation told upon me, and I thought,

913
00:48:13,213 --> 00:48:15,773
Speaker 17: why am I down here getting stressed about what I'm doing,

914
00:48:15,973 --> 00:48:17,973
Speaker 17: like trying to press record and run in and put

915
00:48:17,973 --> 00:48:21,773
Speaker 17: my guitar on and play upstairs? My family is sitting there,

916
00:48:21,773 --> 00:48:23,373
Speaker 17: I've been saying for the last twenty years, I was

917
00:48:23,413 --> 00:48:24,693
Speaker 17: going to spend some time with them.

918
00:48:24,893 --> 00:48:26,653
Speaker 2: Yeah, it seems like this is.

919
00:48:26,653 --> 00:48:30,333
Speaker 17: An opportunity to address the elephant in the room. I

920
00:48:30,413 --> 00:48:32,493
Speaker 17: love you, guys. I kind of came back. It was

921
00:48:32,493 --> 00:48:34,813
Speaker 17: like a row. It wasn't quite rocky, but I came

922
00:48:34,893 --> 00:48:36,813
Speaker 17: up the stairs with a tower on my neck and

923
00:48:36,893 --> 00:48:39,533
Speaker 17: said that, okay, guys, I'm back, and they just all

924
00:48:39,573 --> 00:48:41,533
Speaker 17: completely ignored me and carried on watching TV.

925
00:48:44,653 --> 00:48:47,573
Speaker 2: You listen to news talks. I'm and joined the great

926
00:48:47,613 --> 00:48:50,973
Speaker 2: pleasure of speaking with David Gray about his latest album

927
00:48:51,133 --> 00:48:54,133
Speaker 2: via Life. You see and You've seen before that you

928
00:48:54,173 --> 00:48:57,053
Speaker 2: see yourself as a lyricist first, Is there a literal

929
00:48:57,173 --> 00:49:00,013
Speaker 2: part of the process. Do you write lyrics before you

930
00:49:00,053 --> 00:49:00,733
Speaker 2: write music?

931
00:49:01,973 --> 00:49:06,333
Speaker 17: No, And I think when I started, I sort of

932
00:49:06,533 --> 00:49:08,773
Speaker 17: wrote songs when the mood took me, and it was

933
00:49:08,813 --> 00:49:13,093
Speaker 17: always a chord sequence which I would respond to melodically

934
00:49:13,213 --> 00:49:15,573
Speaker 17: and then try and fit a lyric to the melody.

935
00:49:15,693 --> 00:49:18,413
Speaker 17: And that's sort of what my process was as I've

936
00:49:18,453 --> 00:49:21,933
Speaker 17: gone on, and you know, the sort of the threat

937
00:49:21,973 --> 00:49:26,333
Speaker 17: of writer's block, which is really when you disentangle it,

938
00:49:26,853 --> 00:49:32,013
Speaker 17: a fear of failure. I used all kinds of means

939
00:49:32,053 --> 00:49:35,653
Speaker 17: to get around my self doubt, and one of them

940
00:49:35,773 --> 00:49:39,413
Speaker 17: was to work backwards into music from lyrics, which I've

941
00:49:39,533 --> 00:49:42,653
Speaker 17: done occasionally in my career, but only very rarely. So

942
00:49:42,733 --> 00:49:45,173
Speaker 17: it's become a real asset because what it does is

943
00:49:45,493 --> 00:49:50,133
Speaker 17: it disables temporarily disables my sense of taste, melodic taste.

944
00:49:50,533 --> 00:49:52,373
Speaker 17: And I don't really know whether what I'm doing is

945
00:49:52,413 --> 00:49:54,733
Speaker 17: of any interest whatsoever. All I know is I'm doing

946
00:49:54,813 --> 00:49:56,533
Speaker 17: it like a child in a sandpit. I'm sort of

947
00:49:56,573 --> 00:50:00,213
Speaker 17: making things. So now I kind of any which way

948
00:50:00,293 --> 00:50:03,813
Speaker 17: really to create a song, and I don't have my

949
00:50:03,973 --> 00:50:06,013
Speaker 17: go to is still to do what I've always done.

950
00:50:06,373 --> 00:50:08,773
Speaker 17: The other thing that's changed is that I don't have

951
00:50:08,853 --> 00:50:11,413
Speaker 17: the luxury of just making music when I feel like it.

952
00:50:11,973 --> 00:50:14,173
Speaker 17: I have to turn up and do it as a job,

953
00:50:14,493 --> 00:50:19,253
Speaker 17: and that means you have some crap days, lots of

954
00:50:19,293 --> 00:50:22,173
Speaker 17: okay days, and then the odd day when all the

955
00:50:22,213 --> 00:50:26,213
Speaker 17: turning up pays off and a song comes out the

956
00:50:26,213 --> 00:50:30,173
Speaker 17: sky and you know the odd thing, it feels like

957
00:50:30,213 --> 00:50:34,093
Speaker 17: it's been in a gestation phase. Real song. When it happens,

958
00:50:34,093 --> 00:50:36,813
Speaker 17: when it really happens, I mean when what people call inspiration,

959
00:50:36,973 --> 00:50:43,573
Speaker 17: but when that what is temples subjectivity a total the

960
00:50:43,613 --> 00:50:47,853
Speaker 17: barrier that's normally there between making and not making disappears

961
00:50:47,853 --> 00:50:51,333
Speaker 17: and suddenly it's all just graspable. For a moment, it

962
00:50:51,373 --> 00:50:53,893
Speaker 17: all goes that, the fences come down. You can grab

963
00:50:53,973 --> 00:50:57,533
Speaker 17: anything from anywhere. It's like well, you know, looting. It's

964
00:50:57,533 --> 00:51:00,333
Speaker 17: like sort of creative looting. You know, there's no police.

965
00:51:00,413 --> 00:51:02,813
Speaker 17: You can grab anything in the department store, so like

966
00:51:02,893 --> 00:51:06,373
Speaker 17: images of stuff and dredge up from anywhere. And suddenly

967
00:51:06,533 --> 00:51:10,173
Speaker 17: it's just so as you have this incredible subjectivity and

968
00:51:10,213 --> 00:51:14,573
Speaker 17: this unbridled sort of space that you're suddenly in. You

969
00:51:14,693 --> 00:51:17,813
Speaker 17: know it's happening because at the same time, a sort

970
00:51:17,813 --> 00:51:20,013
Speaker 17: of drone goes up in your mind and you have

971
00:51:20,093 --> 00:51:22,213
Speaker 17: this sort of overview of what you're doing. You make

972
00:51:22,373 --> 00:51:27,253
Speaker 17: very good editorial decisions. So anyway, this is what people

973
00:51:27,293 --> 00:51:31,533
Speaker 17: call inspiration. But it doesn't just happen all the time.

974
00:51:31,613 --> 00:51:33,853
Speaker 17: You have to make it happen if you like. And

975
00:51:34,253 --> 00:51:40,333
Speaker 17: it's still a very religious experience. And I'm a sort

976
00:51:40,333 --> 00:51:45,293
Speaker 17: of a staunch non believer, and yet I pledge my

977
00:51:45,333 --> 00:51:49,453
Speaker 17: life to something as intangible as music, so I must

978
00:51:49,493 --> 00:51:52,973
Speaker 17: have a faith of some kind. So that's what happens.

979
00:51:53,053 --> 00:51:56,813
Speaker 17: So those are the ways that's changed. Songwriting has changed

980
00:51:56,853 --> 00:52:00,453
Speaker 17: for me. Essentially, it's the same process, and I'm still

981
00:52:00,853 --> 00:52:03,933
Speaker 17: barking up the same tree. Essentially. My lyrics are always

982
00:52:03,973 --> 00:52:05,333
Speaker 17: picking away at the same thing.

983
00:52:06,453 --> 00:52:09,053
Speaker 2: You mentioned you're a staunch non believer. I wondered how

984
00:52:10,333 --> 00:52:17,413
Speaker 2: being confronted with unavoidable mortality through this process had maybe

985
00:52:18,013 --> 00:52:21,013
Speaker 2: had affected the way you kind of think about things

986
00:52:21,053 --> 00:52:25,013
Speaker 2: like that. It maybe had affected any sense of spirituality

987
00:52:25,053 --> 00:52:27,893
Speaker 2: you may have thought didn't exist.

988
00:52:29,533 --> 00:52:33,293
Speaker 17: I think you can be spiritual. I guess I would.

989
00:52:34,213 --> 00:52:38,613
Speaker 17: I would say that we're born with a religious instinct.

990
00:52:38,973 --> 00:52:42,453
Speaker 17: I don't think of religion as something that we created

991
00:52:42,893 --> 00:52:44,933
Speaker 17: or that was given to us by Jesus or some

992
00:52:44,973 --> 00:52:49,373
Speaker 17: other prophet that came from somewhere God. Apparently I see

993
00:52:49,413 --> 00:52:51,213
Speaker 17: that we were born with a sense of awe and

994
00:52:51,253 --> 00:52:54,293
Speaker 17: a sense of mystery, and how could we not be

995
00:52:54,293 --> 00:52:59,373
Speaker 17: because we're born into this improbable situation. So what poetry

996
00:52:59,573 --> 00:53:04,253
Speaker 17: touches on the garment of this mystery. It's very real

997
00:53:04,293 --> 00:53:06,693
Speaker 17: and very live in all of us, maybe less in

998
00:53:06,813 --> 00:53:09,693
Speaker 17: some than others. I'm thinking of you prominent prominent world

999
00:53:09,773 --> 00:53:12,733
Speaker 17: politicians and businessmen as I say that, but I refuse

1000
00:53:12,813 --> 00:53:16,733
Speaker 17: to mention them by name. So yeah, it's it's something

1001
00:53:16,773 --> 00:53:20,413
Speaker 17: that's there. So I have a very strong leaning towards

1002
00:53:21,653 --> 00:53:24,973
Speaker 17: I guess what faith is, which is that life is

1003
00:53:24,973 --> 00:53:27,613
Speaker 17: a sort of well spring of energy to me on

1004
00:53:27,653 --> 00:53:29,693
Speaker 17: a sort of an atomic level. Maybe I've just been

1005
00:53:29,773 --> 00:53:31,973
Speaker 17: lucky and life's been kind to me. It certainly has,

1006
00:53:33,933 --> 00:53:39,693
Speaker 17: you know. It's it's just so it renews me the world,

1007
00:53:40,093 --> 00:53:43,653
Speaker 17: the natural world in particular, but the world of music too.

1008
00:53:43,813 --> 00:53:48,213
Speaker 17: That this making with my friends, this communal relationship that

1009
00:53:48,253 --> 00:53:50,893
Speaker 17: we have in being the flesh of the music and

1010
00:53:50,933 --> 00:53:54,493
Speaker 17: then sharing that. I mean, this is alls sounding like

1011
00:53:54,613 --> 00:53:59,973
Speaker 17: a religious language, but that's what takes takes place. It's

1012
00:54:00,013 --> 00:54:02,053
Speaker 17: a it's a it's a hard thing to put your

1013
00:54:02,093 --> 00:54:05,693
Speaker 17: finger on. So I don't need organized religion. I see

1014
00:54:05,693 --> 00:54:09,093
Speaker 17: that as being some thing that's associated with the creation

1015
00:54:09,253 --> 00:54:13,453
Speaker 17: of communities, larger communities, the urban. Suddenly it was very

1016
00:54:13,453 --> 00:54:17,413
Speaker 17: important to have a set of morals and to start

1017
00:54:17,493 --> 00:54:21,013
Speaker 17: simplifying God, because otherwise it was just a mess. And

1018
00:54:21,413 --> 00:54:23,573
Speaker 17: I think it's really like urban planning. That's what I

1019
00:54:23,573 --> 00:54:26,213
Speaker 17: sort of see religion as a sort of a spiritual level.

1020
00:54:26,813 --> 00:54:29,813
Speaker 17: So you know, I've got all those instincts, I just

1021
00:54:29,853 --> 00:54:34,853
Speaker 17: can't find a way into the organized stuff. I'm a pagan.

1022
00:54:35,613 --> 00:54:38,493
Speaker 2: Well, like you say that, the distinction between spirituality and

1023
00:54:38,533 --> 00:54:43,813
Speaker 2: religiosity is also an important one, and perhaps leaning into

1024
00:54:43,853 --> 00:54:47,533
Speaker 2: the intangible there has helped you create the work you create,

1025
00:54:47,573 --> 00:54:49,893
Speaker 2: which you know is as a great beautiful to us.

1026
00:54:49,893 --> 00:54:50,053
Speaker 5: All.

1027
00:54:50,213 --> 00:54:56,493
Speaker 17: Yeah, this is this is very heavy conversation Saturday morning.

1028
00:54:56,533 --> 00:54:59,173
Speaker 17: So first I'm going to apologize to your listeners. The

1029
00:54:59,453 --> 00:55:01,333
Speaker 17: radio isn't like this all the time.

1030
00:55:02,893 --> 00:55:07,933
Speaker 2: They know, they know how shallow I am. Don't worry, Hey,

1031
00:55:08,733 --> 00:55:10,733
Speaker 2: I know we've got to we have to do our

1032
00:55:10,733 --> 00:55:13,333
Speaker 2: best to protect your voice. So one final question, and

1033
00:55:13,413 --> 00:55:16,613
Speaker 2: not wanting to add to your to your already impressive

1034
00:55:16,653 --> 00:55:19,733
Speaker 2: touring Chgule, but I know that there are no antipathy

1035
00:55:19,813 --> 00:55:22,893
Speaker 2: and dates yet, could we expect preps a trip down

1036
00:55:22,973 --> 00:55:24,053
Speaker 2: Under some time soon.

1037
00:55:25,373 --> 00:55:28,573
Speaker 17: And there'd be anticipation in the antipodes.

1038
00:55:28,813 --> 00:55:29,133
Speaker 5: You see.

1039
00:55:29,173 --> 00:55:33,213
Speaker 17: I can't help it. The alliteration was there. We're looking

1040
00:55:33,293 --> 00:55:35,373
Speaker 17: at it all, so we're trying to work it out.

1041
00:55:35,453 --> 00:55:38,893
Speaker 17: I got to balance my life like a little bit.

1042
00:55:39,013 --> 00:55:42,773
Speaker 17: I'm not very good at saying no, so if the

1043
00:55:42,773 --> 00:55:44,973
Speaker 17: world is saying yes, I'm not very good at saying no.

1044
00:55:45,813 --> 00:55:48,253
Speaker 17: But my wife's got other ideas, so I'm not going

1045
00:55:48,293 --> 00:55:52,373
Speaker 17: to blame her. But we're looking at that later in

1046
00:55:52,413 --> 00:55:56,173
Speaker 17: the year. It's not a definite thing yet and it's

1047
00:55:56,213 --> 00:55:59,733
Speaker 17: not completely taken shape, so it may happen. I thought

1048
00:55:59,733 --> 00:56:03,333
Speaker 17: that's the best I can say. Well, if it doesn't happen,

1049
00:56:03,453 --> 00:56:05,373
Speaker 17: it won't be too long before it does. I can

1050
00:56:05,413 --> 00:56:06,093
Speaker 17: guarantee you that.

1051
00:56:07,013 --> 00:56:07,213
Speaker 5: Well.

1052
00:56:07,213 --> 00:56:09,773
Speaker 2: That is so good to hear. David. Thank you, Thank

1053
00:56:09,813 --> 00:56:12,493
Speaker 2: you so much for your time. It is such a

1054
00:56:12,533 --> 00:56:15,413
Speaker 2: pleasure to speak with you. David's album Dear Life is

1055
00:56:15,493 --> 00:56:18,813
Speaker 2: out now, available in good music stores of course, and

1056
00:56:18,893 --> 00:56:21,093
Speaker 2: on your usual streaming services, and we will have all

1057
00:56:21,093 --> 00:56:24,573
Speaker 2: the details at Newstalks dB dot co dot nz. Right now,

1058
00:56:24,613 --> 00:56:26,613
Speaker 2: it is twenty four minutes past ten on News Talks

1059
00:56:26,733 --> 00:56:29,493
Speaker 2: EDB this Saturday morning. We have a chocolate box show

1060
00:56:29,533 --> 00:56:32,373
Speaker 2: for you, So before eleven o'clock we're going to be

1061
00:56:32,373 --> 00:56:37,573
Speaker 2: in the garden. Rude has been pontificating over nico Palms

1062
00:56:37,613 --> 00:56:39,853
Speaker 2: around the country and the slight differences you see in

1063
00:56:40,093 --> 00:56:42,973
Speaker 2: Nico's around alter or Next up, though, if you're looking

1064
00:56:42,973 --> 00:56:45,453
Speaker 2: for something good to watch at home this weekend, you're

1065
00:56:45,453 --> 00:56:47,493
Speaker 2: looking forward to a few hours on the couch and

1066
00:56:47,573 --> 00:56:50,173
Speaker 2: fancy a bit a binge watching three shows to recommend

1067
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Speaker 2: in our screen time segment twenty five past ten on

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Speaker 2: EDB Jack David Gray sounds like his lyrics are showing

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Speaker 2: him how to write, as if they're written way before

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Speaker 2: he even thought of them. He's one artist I would

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Speaker 2: listen to out in the silence of nature. Love him,

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Speaker 2: says Lee. Thanks Lee, ninety two to ninety two if

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Speaker 2: you want to send us a message this morning twenty

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Speaker 2: eight past ten, which means it's screen time time with

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Speaker 2: Tara Award our screen time experts. She's got three shows

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Speaker 2: for us this weekend. Hey, Tara, A new season of

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Speaker 2: Severance is out. This is the second season. It's on

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Speaker 2: Apple TV Plus. So tell us about Severance.

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Speaker 18: Yeah, I know a lot of people have been looking

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Speaker 18: forward to this series. It's been three years since the

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Speaker 18: first season dropped, and Seference is one of those shows

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Speaker 18: that everyone who watches it and sticks with it because

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Speaker 18: it is a little unusual says that it's one of

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Speaker 18: the best shows they have ever seen. This is a

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Speaker 18: psychological thriller and it's in that sort of same dystopian,

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Speaker 18: uneasy vein as Black Mirror, and it's about a man

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Speaker 18: named Mark who's played by Adam Scott, and his workplace

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Speaker 18: colleagues who have all voluntarily undergone a meta call procedure

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Speaker 18: that separates their work selves from their home selves. So

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Speaker 18: when Mark is at work, he loses all his memories

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Speaker 18: about his life at home and vice versa. So he

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Speaker 18: has these two personalities and it's playing with that idea

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Speaker 18: of having that perfect work life balance. But when a

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Speaker 18: new employee starts at this mega corporation who is quite rebellious,

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Speaker 18: Mark starts to question things and his two separate lives

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Speaker 18: start to crossover in ways that they shouldn't.

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Speaker 19: I mean, as it sounds.

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Speaker 18: It is a very unusual show, but it's surprising and

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Speaker 18: it's clever, and it's one of those shows that you

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Speaker 18: won't always know where you are with it, but it's

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Speaker 18: done so beautifully and intelligently that it just pulls you in.

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Speaker 18: It really leans into that mundaneeness of office life. And

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Speaker 18: it's got this amazing cast Adam Scott, Patricia Arquette, Christopher Walken.

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Speaker 18: It's directed by Ben Stiller. Everything about it is quality,

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Speaker 18: and it's a show that has a little bit of

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Speaker 18: everything in it, comedy, mystery, dystopia. There's probably nothing else

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Speaker 18: like it on television at the moment in terms of

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Speaker 18: originality and creativity.

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Speaker 19: So if you want to.

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Speaker 18: Watch something that's a little bit thought provoking and it's

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Speaker 18: going to get, you know, the brain ticking over, I'd really.

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Speaker 17: Recommend this one.

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Speaker 2: Fantastic Okay, that's Severance, that's on Apple TV Plus on Netflix.

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Speaker 2: The Night Agent.

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Speaker 18: Yeah, this is a second season of this great American

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Speaker 18: political thriller.

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Speaker 19: And there's a key we link to the show.

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Speaker 18: This stars Luciani the Buchanan, who has been in shows

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Speaker 18: like The Broken Wood Mysteries and Filthy Rich, but who

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Speaker 18: has now reached international stardom with a starring role in

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Speaker 18: one of Netflix's biggest shows.

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Speaker 19: So this is a conspiracy thriller.

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Speaker 18: It's about a low level FBI agent who works at

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Speaker 18: night in the basement of the White House and it's

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Speaker 18: his job to answer a phone that never rings until

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Speaker 18: one night he gets a call. It's from a woman

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Speaker 18: who's played by Luciani Buchanan who needs his help and

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Speaker 18: he gets pulled into this conspiracy that takes.

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Speaker 9: Him right back to the White House.

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Speaker 18: And if you like The Born Ultimatum, if you like Reacher,

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Speaker 18: if you like a fast paced thriller that's easy to watch,

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Speaker 18: I think you'll love this. It feels a bit like

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Speaker 18: a spy thriller from the nineties, and I don't mean

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Speaker 18: that in a bad way.

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Speaker 19: But it's it kind of sticks to a tried and

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Speaker 19: true recipe. You've got villains and your heroes. There's action

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Speaker 19: and espionage and suspense.

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Speaker 18: It does the basics really really well, and you know,

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Speaker 18: at times it gets a bit selling, a bit ridiculous,

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Speaker 18: but you don't mind those moments because it is such

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Speaker 18: a fun watch. And you know, like any good Netflix show,

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Speaker 18: very vengeable, some black cliffhangers to pull you into that episode.

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Speaker 2: Mind okay.

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Speaker 5: Cool.

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Speaker 2: So that's The Night Agent back for a second season

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Speaker 2: on Netflix and on Neon. Tell Us about Karen Pirii.

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Speaker 19: Yeah, this is one for crime drama fans.

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Speaker 18: This is a new Scottish murder mystery on Neon. It's

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Speaker 18: set in beautiful Saint Andrew's and it's based on a

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Speaker 18: book by criter Velmit Dear, And it's about a young

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Speaker 18: female detect called Karen Perry, who is investigating a cold

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Speaker 18: case from the nineteen nineties involving a murdered bar mate.

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Speaker 19: The case originally went.

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Speaker 18: Unsolved, but there's a new podcast that has read nighted

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Speaker 18: public interest and Karen is told to find the answers

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Speaker 18: and shut things down. She finds the three men who

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Speaker 18: were the original suspects, but what she also discovers is

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Speaker 18: a whole lot of flaws and mistakes in the original inquiry.

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Speaker 18: And the show juts back and forward between nineteen ninety

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Speaker 18: five and the current time, so.

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Speaker 19: The two investigations into the same.

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Speaker 18: Case play out beside each other, which I really liked

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Speaker 18: and what I also really liked about this For once

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Speaker 18: at a crime drama, the main detective isn't one of

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Speaker 18: those sort of really troubled, terrible people, who is bringing

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Speaker 18: a lot of emotional baggage to the job. She's just

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Speaker 18: a very smart woman and again a bit like The

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Speaker 18: Night Agent. It's not trying to be anything else other

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Speaker 18: than a solid, very watchable TV drama.

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Speaker 19: It feels very current. It's got this beautiful setting.

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Speaker 18: Lauren Lyle who was an Outlander, she plays Karen and

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Speaker 18: she's great in this. She won a Scottish Faster for

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Speaker 18: this role. So you know, if you love a crime

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Speaker 18: drama or a mystery, or if you're a fan of

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Speaker 18: a really good British drama, I think this is a

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Speaker 18: great weekend watch superb.

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Speaker 2: Okay, that's Karen Perry. That's on Neon, The Night Agents

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Speaker 2: on Netflix, and Severance is on Apple tv Plus. But

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Speaker 2: don't worry if you're not scribbling that down or typing

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Speaker 2: it into your phone. We're going to have all of

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Speaker 2: those shows up on the News Talks 'DB website so

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Speaker 2: you can find out more about them. Then, thank you

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Speaker 2: so much, Tara, Catching again soon right now, it is

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Speaker 2: twenty seven to eleven non Newstalks, ZEDB.

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Speaker 1: Getting your weekends started. It's Saturday Morning with Jack Team

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Speaker 1: on News Talks edb.

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Speaker 2: Jag Me. I cannot believe this song's more than twenty

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Speaker 2: years old now, ah, this is Franz Ferdinand. This song,

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Speaker 2: of course is take Me Out, released in two thousand

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Speaker 2: and four. Well, this month the Scottish band has released

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Speaker 2: their sixth studio album. It's the first with their new drummer,

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Speaker 2: Audrey Tait, after the previous drummer Paul Thompson left the

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Speaker 2: band in twenty twenty one. And our music review Estelle

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Speaker 2: Clip it's going to be reviewing that after eleven o'clock

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Speaker 2: this morning, so we will make sure we save a

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Speaker 2: little bit of time and you can have a listen

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Speaker 2: to Franz Ferdinand's new music coming up very shortly before

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Speaker 2: eleven o'clock. We are in the garden. We've got your

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Speaker 2: wine pick for this new week and next week and

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Speaker 2: next up. Our texpert is here with big news from

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Speaker 2: Open Ai, the company behind chat GPT has an incredible

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Speaker 2: new tool, so I'll tell you what it can do next.

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Speaker 1: Putting the tough questions to the newspeakers the mic asking.

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Speaker 20: Breakfast mining, the Prime Minister mentioned that in his address

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Speaker 20: Shane Jones as the results.

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Speaker 16: As Minister, we have an inordinately large dock of state.

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Speaker 16: Much of that dock estate is suitable for acquiring and mining,

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Speaker 16: and we need to get over ourselves because if we

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Speaker 16: want the surplus income, we should identify which areas are

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Speaker 16: really precious to the birth right of Kiwis and which

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Speaker 16: areas can be used for economic purposes.

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Speaker 20: So you're talking about opening up stewardship land, which is

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Speaker 20: nine percent of our land area, to mining as well

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Speaker 20: as dockland.

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Speaker 16: Dockland is already used in some cases, stewardship land can

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Speaker 16: be made available not only for mining but for other

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Speaker 16: economic purposes.

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Speaker 1: Ryan Bridge on the my casking Breakfast's Back Monday from

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Speaker 1: six am with the range Rover Villa on news talks.

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Speaker 2: Ed B twenty two eleven on news talks EDB. Open

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Speaker 2: Ai has just released a new tool. This is the company,

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Speaker 2: of course behind chat GPT and this tool can go

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Speaker 2: one step further. Our textbit Paul Steenhouse is here with

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Speaker 2: the details. God of Paul. What can it do?

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Speaker 13: Yeah?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I feel that we're getting one step closer to Rosy,

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Speaker 7: the robot from the Jetsons.

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Speaker 2: Although I guess this.

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Speaker 11: Thing can't move around. Maybe that's the next step it'll take.

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Speaker 7: Because this is Rosy the robot effectively for your computer

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Speaker 7: and your digital version of that assistant. But yeah, it's

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Speaker 7: called Operator Jack. And basically it's going to be able

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Speaker 7: to start doing things for you on the Internet. So

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Speaker 7: let's imagine you want to book a flight. You can

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Speaker 7: simply type in and this is the cool part. You

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Speaker 7: just use natural language. You say, I want to book

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Speaker 7: a flight to Hawaii, and I want to do three nights,

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Speaker 7: and I don't want it to be rainy season, and

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Speaker 7: I want to do this, this, and this activity.

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Speaker 2: It will then just.

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Speaker 7: Go away and start browsing the Internet just like you

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Speaker 7: or I would, And it uses screenshots. They call it

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Speaker 7: computer vision, but really it's screenshots of the web page.

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Speaker 7: It analyzes those, figures out what fields it needs to

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Speaker 7: fill in, figures out what buttons it needs to click

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Speaker 7: with its virtual mouse, and what to type with its

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Speaker 7: virtual keyboard, and actually just starts doing things for you.

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Speaker 7: So what's really interesting about this, though, is we have

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Speaker 7: kind of like assistance and things, and they can do

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Speaker 7: things for us, but typically they all need to be

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Speaker 7: pre programmed, right because they need to use what we

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Speaker 7: call in the digital world APIs effectively structured data messages

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Speaker 7: that different services send each other and.

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Speaker 2: We will be able to be able to do things.

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Speaker 7: This is interesting though, because it actually just like a human.

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Speaker 7: It basically looks at the screen, figures it out. It

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Speaker 7: doesn't need any pre programming, and it can just start

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Speaker 7: doing things. So if a new restaurant popped up, it

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Speaker 7: could theoretically go to its website and make a booking

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Speaker 7: for you without ever having seen that website before.

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Speaker 2: And so it's a big step forward.

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Speaker 7: Because we're actually going to start getting towards some assistance

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Speaker 7: that are smart and might actually be able to do

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Speaker 7: some things for us.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so I mean how the price tag? Oh yeah,

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Speaker 2: go on?

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Speaker 7: Okay, So it's part of the chat GPT's pro plan,

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Speaker 7: which is just two hundred dollars two hundred US dollars

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Speaker 7: a month. They do say that they're going to start

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Speaker 7: rolling it out to the other plans. Do you know

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Speaker 7: Sam Oltman, CEO of chair of open Ai, he said

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Speaker 7: that he chose that price and he thought they'd make

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Speaker 7: money off that price.

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Speaker 9: It turns out they're not making any money off that price.

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Speaker 7: Because people are using it so heavily. This chet GPT

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Speaker 7: pro feature, that's it's making a loss. Oh really the

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Speaker 7: next one's probably going to be Yeah.

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01:07:24,933 --> 01:07:27,173
Speaker 2: So it's not that they've priced people out of the market,

1283
01:07:27,213 --> 01:07:29,893
Speaker 2: it's just that it's actually being used so much and

1284
01:07:29,893 --> 01:07:33,853
Speaker 2: it's using so much computing power that they're Yeah. So

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01:07:34,093 --> 01:07:37,213
Speaker 2: my question though, is like, honestly, how usable is this?

1286
01:07:37,613 --> 01:07:39,813
Speaker 2: Like how much stuff do you really need to be

1287
01:07:39,933 --> 01:07:40,933
Speaker 2: done by?

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01:07:41,253 --> 01:07:41,453
Speaker 5: You know?

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01:07:41,693 --> 01:07:43,653
Speaker 2: How many times are you booking a flight to Hawaii

1290
01:07:43,733 --> 01:07:45,693
Speaker 2: and needing that kind of research done? You know what

1291
01:07:45,733 --> 01:07:48,213
Speaker 2: I mean. It's kind of like with with voice assistance

1292
01:07:48,253 --> 01:07:50,053
Speaker 2: and Siri and stuff, it's like, well, how often do

1293
01:07:50,053 --> 01:07:52,013
Speaker 2: you really need a time a set? How often do

1294
01:07:52,053 --> 01:07:53,813
Speaker 2: you really need to know the temperature? You know?

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Speaker 7: Well, this one's different because it can do basically anything.

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Speaker 7: Right now, it still is in its research beta phase,

1297
01:08:01,053 --> 01:08:02,693
Speaker 7: so they're going to say there will be hiccups, but

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01:08:02,933 --> 01:08:04,613
Speaker 7: we're well on our way to it being able to

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01:08:04,933 --> 01:08:08,773
Speaker 7: craft a Facebook post for you y or browsing Facebook

1300
01:08:08,813 --> 01:08:11,173
Speaker 7: and telling you what might be interesting, or you know,

1301
01:08:11,293 --> 01:08:13,373
Speaker 7: you could probably even send it if you were gaming

1302
01:08:13,933 --> 01:08:18,013
Speaker 7: your bank details and tell it to pay pay your

1303
01:08:18,013 --> 01:08:20,493
Speaker 7: bills and do things like. That's where it's headed, right,

1304
01:08:20,533 --> 01:08:23,133
Speaker 7: Like you could actually say pay my contact energy bill

1305
01:08:23,733 --> 01:08:25,693
Speaker 7: and it could go away and start to figure out how.

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01:08:25,533 --> 01:08:25,933
Speaker 10: To do that.

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01:08:26,053 --> 01:08:29,373
Speaker 7: So we're not there yet, but that's what they wanted

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Speaker 7: to be able to do.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Oh it sounds amazing. Okay, thank you so much. Paul,

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01:08:33,053 --> 01:08:38,453
Speaker 2: sounds amazing if expensive. Paul Stenhouse our texpert there before

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Speaker 2: eleven o'clock the secret of Nico Palms and the little

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01:08:41,053 --> 01:08:43,533
Speaker 2: differences in Nico palms around the country. We're in the

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Speaker 2: garden with Rude. Next up, we've got your best buy

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01:08:46,613 --> 01:08:49,013
Speaker 2: for this week from our master of Wine right now

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Speaker 2: at sixteen to eleven, a.

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Speaker 3: Little bit of way to kick off your weekend. Then

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Speaker 3: with Jack.

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Speaker 1: Saturday Mornings with Jack, Tay and Bepewart on code dot

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Speaker 1: NZ for high quality supplements used Talk.

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Speaker 2: Said b fourteen to eleven on u S Talk s

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Speaker 2: d b our Master of Wine, Bob Campbell has chosen

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Speaker 2: a Balvoni prosecco from Marlborough for thirty four fifty nine

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Speaker 2: as his best buy for us this week, and he's

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Speaker 2: with us this morning, Count of Bob Cura. Jack, So,

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Speaker 2: why did you choose the Why did you choose the Balvoni?

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Speaker 5: Well, prosecco is a really interesting grape variety. It's an

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Speaker 5: Italian sparkling wine produced in nine provinces in the northeast

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Speaker 5: of Italy. It's made from the prosecco grape, which was

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Speaker 5: renamed Glea g l Era in two thousand and nine

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Speaker 5: by the Italians really to stop the rest of the

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Speaker 5: world from using the sensationally successful brand Prosecco. Glera's also

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Speaker 5: grown in other countries, including New Zealand and Australia. New

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Speaker 5: Zealand producers of which I only know of one at

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Speaker 5: the moment, which is the Balvoni Prosecco, certainly the only

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Speaker 5: one in Marlborough. They agreed to stop using the term

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01:10:05,813 --> 01:10:10,053
Speaker 5: prosecco in four years time and then it'll become glarer.

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Speaker 5: So I thought, why not have There's an opportune time

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Speaker 5: to have a prosecco party, and you can serve Italian

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01:10:21,813 --> 01:10:26,173
Speaker 5: at any Italian prosecco with an Australian prosecco. I recommend

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01:10:26,213 --> 01:10:32,293
Speaker 5: Brown Brothers and of course the Balvoni Prosecco from God's own.

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01:10:32,573 --> 01:10:35,813
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, it's a really sort of summary wine, isn't it. Proscco?

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01:10:35,893 --> 01:10:36,693
Speaker 2: What does it taste like?

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Speaker 5: Well, really attractive, sort of creamy sparkling wine. With an appealing,

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01:10:42,933 --> 01:10:48,893
Speaker 5: mellow sort of freshness and restrained moose. That's the bubble.

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01:10:49,333 --> 01:10:53,053
Speaker 5: It doesn't It's not as bubbly as Champagne, but I

1347
01:10:53,053 --> 01:10:55,893
Speaker 5: think it's all the better for it. It's less it's

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01:10:55,973 --> 01:11:00,253
Speaker 5: less serious. It has an initial sort of I got

1349
01:11:00,293 --> 01:11:03,653
Speaker 5: us like a marmite type yeastiness, but that faded quickly

1350
01:11:04,173 --> 01:11:07,493
Speaker 5: and a nice mouth cleansing sceense station in its place.

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Speaker 5: It could easily be mistaken for an Italian prosecco. I'm

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01:11:11,053 --> 01:11:12,133
Speaker 5: I'm convinced of that.

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01:11:12,533 --> 01:11:14,893
Speaker 2: And it's to a thirty four dollars. It's not cheap,

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01:11:14,893 --> 01:11:17,813
Speaker 2: but you reckon, it's really good and very much worth

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01:11:17,813 --> 01:11:19,213
Speaker 2: the price. So we can you pick it up?

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Speaker 5: Bob Well, You'll have to go direct to the Belvoni

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01:11:23,373 --> 01:11:28,373
Speaker 5: for that. They are a wine maker, grape grower and Marlborough.

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Speaker 5: And just check out the Balvoni website which I just

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01:11:34,733 --> 01:11:35,813
Speaker 5: haven't committed to memory.

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Speaker 2: I think it's Belvony dot in z b a l

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01:11:38,733 --> 01:11:41,293
Speaker 2: v o n ie dot in Zi, but we'll make

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Speaker 2: sure we put that on the news talks. He'd be

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01:11:42,853 --> 01:11:45,493
Speaker 2: website as well so people can find it there. Yeah,

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01:11:45,613 --> 01:11:47,893
Speaker 2: what would you mention with, Bob Well?

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01:11:47,933 --> 01:11:52,133
Speaker 5: It's a versatile when I think it would go with

1366
01:11:52,213 --> 01:11:55,773
Speaker 5: most seafood, but it doesn't need the complication of food.

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01:11:56,093 --> 01:11:58,653
Speaker 5: I think you can just just really enjoy it for

1368
01:11:58,773 --> 01:12:00,613
Speaker 5: its own pleasures.

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01:12:00,853 --> 01:12:02,613
Speaker 2: Yeah, and like you say, maybe as part of a

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01:12:02,773 --> 01:12:05,293
Speaker 2: prosecco party perhaps, Hey, thank you so much, Bob. So

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01:12:05,333 --> 01:12:08,493
Speaker 2: he's chosen a Balvoni procco from Marlborough as his best

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Speaker 2: buy for this week. Like I say, all of the

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Speaker 2: details on the news talks, he'd be website eleven to eleven.

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Speaker 1: Well gardening with summer at Steel Shaft where it's fall

1375
01:12:17,413 --> 01:12:19,333
Speaker 1: about the accessories.

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01:12:18,933 --> 01:12:21,013
Speaker 2: You know. I started the show this morning by talking

1377
01:12:21,013 --> 01:12:22,813
Speaker 2: about the little bit of time I had tramping through

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01:12:22,813 --> 01:12:25,733
Speaker 2: the Khudangi National Park over summer, a part of the

1379
01:12:25,733 --> 01:12:28,253
Speaker 2: country I absolutely love. If you're not familiar with it,

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01:12:28,253 --> 01:12:31,173
Speaker 2: it's the kind of northwest corner of the South Island,

1381
01:12:31,293 --> 01:12:33,413
Speaker 2: so the top left corner of the South Island. It

1382
01:12:33,453 --> 01:12:37,653
Speaker 2: stretches from Golden Bay, where my family lives these days,

1383
01:12:38,053 --> 01:12:40,813
Speaker 2: down onto the west coast around Kadamere on the west coast.

1384
01:12:40,853 --> 01:12:42,773
Speaker 2: That's where the heavy track goes to. So if you're

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01:12:42,813 --> 01:12:45,013
Speaker 2: driving up the west coast of the South Island, that's

1386
01:12:45,053 --> 01:12:46,853
Speaker 2: about as far as you can go before you got

1387
01:12:46,893 --> 01:12:48,933
Speaker 2: to go back back down and back in land a

1388
01:12:48,933 --> 01:12:51,373
Speaker 2: little bit. Anyway, turns out I'm not the only one

1389
01:12:51,373 --> 01:12:53,973
Speaker 2: who is drawn to the kind of landscapes and the

1390
01:12:54,053 --> 01:12:56,213
Speaker 2: kind of flora and fauna you see in that part

1391
01:12:56,213 --> 01:12:58,333
Speaker 2: of the world because Rude climb Power San Man in

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01:12:58,373 --> 01:13:00,893
Speaker 2: the Garden has also been on the South Island's west

1393
01:13:00,933 --> 01:13:03,573
Speaker 2: coast and he's been taken by some of the flora there.

1394
01:13:03,653 --> 01:13:06,093
Speaker 2: Kelter Rude exactly, Jack.

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01:13:06,773 --> 01:13:09,173
Speaker 9: It's so good to do that, Isn't it such a

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01:13:09,173 --> 01:13:09,893
Speaker 9: great place.

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Speaker 2: It is wonderful that part of the country. And one

1398
01:13:11,973 --> 01:13:14,613
Speaker 2: of the things I love about the Cahoudangi National Park

1399
01:13:14,653 --> 01:13:17,813
Speaker 2: of the Nico Groves where that whether bush meets the

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01:13:17,813 --> 01:13:20,493
Speaker 2: ocean or meets the coast and you get those incredible

1401
01:13:20,533 --> 01:13:21,773
Speaker 2: groves of Nico trees.

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01:13:22,853 --> 01:13:25,413
Speaker 9: Yeah, that's right. Well, the Nico, as you know, it's

1403
01:13:25,453 --> 01:13:28,653
Speaker 9: one of our palm species that occurs. That species only

1404
01:13:28,693 --> 01:13:31,373
Speaker 9: lives in zions. It's endemic, if you like, and we've

1405
01:13:31,373 --> 01:13:33,813
Speaker 9: got two of them. But the one you probably will

1406
01:13:33,813 --> 01:13:35,933
Speaker 9: have seen is that one that is kind of tightly

1407
01:13:36,933 --> 01:13:39,493
Speaker 9: that the leaves are going tightly up into the sky.

1408
01:13:39,813 --> 01:13:41,133
Speaker 9: Sort of like a V shape.

1409
01:13:41,213 --> 01:13:42,293
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what I mean.

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01:13:42,413 --> 01:13:46,813
Speaker 9: Yeah, that's that's ro Roppolo steel is sappy. That's the

1411
01:13:46,893 --> 01:13:49,093
Speaker 9: name of Nico Farm, you know, that's what it is about.

1412
01:13:49,533 --> 01:13:52,813
Speaker 9: And this is an interesting little plant because I've kind

1413
01:13:52,853 --> 01:13:56,613
Speaker 9: of missed it since I left Auckland. Yeah, and there

1414
01:13:56,653 --> 01:13:59,293
Speaker 9: it was, like you said, in there thousands on the

1415
01:13:59,373 --> 01:14:02,853
Speaker 9: hills and it and it just totally grabbed me again.

1416
01:14:02,933 --> 01:14:06,293
Speaker 9: So I look at that, and then I talked. I

1417
01:14:06,453 --> 01:14:09,093
Speaker 9: went to the Chatham Islands and places like that. I

1418
01:14:09,133 --> 01:14:12,533
Speaker 9: saw a nicu pound that had leaves that were bending

1419
01:14:12,613 --> 01:14:18,813
Speaker 9: down more if you like the tropical look, you know, yeah, right, yeah, right,

1420
01:14:19,053 --> 01:14:24,133
Speaker 9: And it's the same blinking species. Ah okay, And I

1421
01:14:24,173 --> 01:14:27,013
Speaker 9: don't believe botan is now. I think they're lying because

1422
01:14:27,053 --> 01:14:30,933
Speaker 9: they haven't really done their I think it's a different species,

1423
01:14:31,053 --> 01:14:34,053
Speaker 9: you know what I mean, right anyway, yeah, yeah, anyway,

1424
01:14:34,173 --> 01:14:38,053
Speaker 9: So these things, these decos, they of course they flower

1425
01:14:38,173 --> 01:14:42,133
Speaker 9: in now spring and summer. And I saw those flowers

1426
01:14:42,173 --> 01:14:44,693
Speaker 9: come out and I think they will probably be on

1427
01:14:44,733 --> 01:14:47,813
Speaker 9: the website, I bet you. And they are absolutely gorgeous

1428
01:14:47,813 --> 01:14:51,533
Speaker 9: in color. It's just amazing. Yeah, and here comes to

1429
01:14:51,613 --> 01:14:56,173
Speaker 9: thee and now we're getting the seeds from last year

1430
01:14:56,293 --> 01:15:01,693
Speaker 9: out as well. And guess what blinking carried everywhere, taking

1431
01:15:01,813 --> 01:15:04,453
Speaker 9: these ripe seeds out and putting them all out. And

1432
01:15:04,493 --> 01:15:07,053
Speaker 9: that's their geek of course. Yeah, then it's.

1433
01:15:06,893 --> 01:15:11,013
Speaker 2: Exactly they spread them around, Yeah, exactly.

1434
01:15:10,613 --> 01:15:12,493
Speaker 9: And that's I should do that too, So I am

1435
01:15:12,533 --> 01:15:17,293
Speaker 9: doing that now. But anyway, the idea is to to

1436
01:15:17,453 --> 01:15:20,213
Speaker 9: actually if you if you want to, you can actually

1437
01:15:20,213 --> 01:15:22,573
Speaker 9: grow them here on the porthills. We know because I've

1438
01:15:22,613 --> 01:15:24,813
Speaker 9: been doing it now for a little while, but not

1439
01:15:25,173 --> 01:15:27,933
Speaker 9: with as much very veref if you like, as I

1440
01:15:27,973 --> 01:15:31,133
Speaker 9: do right now. And then I thought, why don't I

1441
01:15:31,213 --> 01:15:34,413
Speaker 9: get that other species that lives in the Kermedek Islands

1442
01:15:34,453 --> 01:15:37,973
Speaker 9: in Raoul Island, And it's got a Bowery name. It's

1443
01:15:37,973 --> 01:15:41,093
Speaker 9: a different name, so that's a different species, And gosh,

1444
01:15:41,213 --> 01:15:44,133
Speaker 9: I could find it in in garden shops and in

1445
01:15:44,293 --> 01:15:47,373
Speaker 9: places that actually sell those things. Yeah, and then and

1446
01:15:47,413 --> 01:15:50,333
Speaker 9: then I realized you can actually grow those at home

1447
01:15:50,373 --> 01:15:53,213
Speaker 9: if you've got a nik on nearby. There are wonderful

1448
01:15:53,253 --> 01:15:56,133
Speaker 9: ideas on the website for everybody on how to get

1449
01:15:56,173 --> 01:16:00,173
Speaker 9: those seeds to germinate very gently and how to grow

1450
01:16:00,253 --> 01:16:03,453
Speaker 9: those plants. Oh wow, I thought, wouldn't that be nice

1451
01:16:03,493 --> 01:16:06,693
Speaker 9: in my guiden And then I thought, how long as

1452
01:16:06,733 --> 01:16:07,533
Speaker 9: they're going to take?

1453
01:16:08,373 --> 01:16:11,813
Speaker 2: Because they take forever. A Nico take forever to grow, right.

1454
01:16:12,413 --> 01:16:15,813
Speaker 9: It takes forty years for a Nico bound to start

1455
01:16:15,853 --> 01:16:16,533
Speaker 9: a trunk.

1456
01:16:19,173 --> 01:16:21,573
Speaker 2: But this is why it's so important to plan them. Now,

1457
01:16:21,693 --> 01:16:23,893
Speaker 2: what's what's the old edge? When was the best time

1458
01:16:23,933 --> 01:16:25,213
Speaker 2: to plant a tree yesterday?

1459
01:16:26,173 --> 01:16:26,333
Speaker 4: When?

1460
01:16:26,733 --> 01:16:28,893
Speaker 2: When when is the next best time? Right now?

1461
01:16:28,973 --> 01:16:29,333
Speaker 21: Whatever?

1462
01:16:29,533 --> 01:16:29,773
Speaker 15: Yeah?

1463
01:16:29,853 --> 01:16:32,173
Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, but this is the point you all say, ah,

1464
01:16:32,253 --> 01:16:34,813
Speaker 9: that takes too long. So I bought a bigger plans

1465
01:16:35,053 --> 01:16:37,493
Speaker 9: from one of the things of a Jakes and it's

1466
01:16:37,533 --> 01:16:40,293
Speaker 9: still is like three of these little rings that you

1467
01:16:40,333 --> 01:16:43,933
Speaker 9: see around the back of is in one year. So

1468
01:16:44,053 --> 01:16:48,653
Speaker 9: it takes absolutely incredibly long. But you got right, two

1469
01:16:48,733 --> 01:16:51,893
Speaker 9: or three rings a year do the mets. It's slow,

1470
01:16:52,253 --> 01:16:56,613
Speaker 9: but honestly you're leaving a legacy that is so New Zealand.

1471
01:16:56,813 --> 01:16:58,813
Speaker 2: Yeah, I totally agree. I think that's what it is

1472
01:16:58,853 --> 01:17:01,053
Speaker 2: about the Nico. You really feel like you're part of

1473
01:17:01,053 --> 01:17:03,853
Speaker 2: the South Pacific when you see it grow Nico. Yeah,

1474
01:17:04,213 --> 01:17:07,013
Speaker 2: I think great to have you mexit, have a new year,

1475
01:17:07,173 --> 01:17:10,813
Speaker 2: and you look forward to chatting again very soon after

1476
01:17:10,813 --> 01:17:13,213
Speaker 2: eleven o'clock on news Talks EDB, We're going to take

1477
01:17:13,253 --> 01:17:17,293
Speaker 2: you to Tasman Bay with our travel correspondent and some

1478
01:17:17,413 --> 01:17:22,453
Speaker 2: really really useful practical advice from our sustainability expert for

1479
01:17:22,533 --> 01:17:24,613
Speaker 2: the kids as they prepare to go back to school.

1480
01:17:24,613 --> 01:17:25,933
Speaker 2: You know, it can be a time of year where

1481
01:17:25,933 --> 01:17:27,573
Speaker 2: there's all sorts of pressure to buy all sorts of

1482
01:17:27,613 --> 01:17:29,773
Speaker 2: things when the kids are preparing for school. You don't

1483
01:17:29,773 --> 01:17:32,933
Speaker 2: have to. That's the good news. It's almost eleven o'clock though.

1484
01:17:33,213 --> 01:17:36,213
Speaker 2: Use us next. I'm Jack Tame and Saturday Morning, and

1485
01:17:36,253 --> 01:17:37,373
Speaker 2: this is news Dog's.

1486
01:17:37,213 --> 01:17:48,653
Speaker 1: EDB Saturday Mornings with Jack Tay keeping the conversation going

1487
01:17:48,693 --> 01:17:51,853
Speaker 1: through the weekend with bpure dot cot dot inced for

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Speaker 1: high quality supplements.

1489
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Speaker 3: Use Talks EDB.

1490
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Speaker 2: I think it's because of my surname that I even

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Speaker 2: that I envy Evan Smoke. When you've got a surname

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01:18:25,813 --> 01:18:32,573
Speaker 2: like Tame, Evan Smoke just has an allure that I

1493
01:18:32,613 --> 01:18:35,613
Speaker 2: can only dream of, maybe if I was Jack Wilde

1494
01:18:35,653 --> 01:18:38,773
Speaker 2: instead of Jack Tayne. I don't know Evan Smoke anyway.

1495
01:18:38,773 --> 01:18:44,813
Speaker 2: Even Smoke is the protagonist of Greg Hurwitz's amazing Orphan

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01:18:45,293 --> 01:18:47,133
Speaker 2: X books. I don't know if you've read in Orphan

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01:18:47,253 --> 01:18:49,373
Speaker 2: xbooks before, but there's a whole series of them and

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01:18:49,413 --> 01:18:53,333
Speaker 2: he's a bit of a kind of lone wolf Opperetta

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01:18:53,693 --> 01:18:57,573
Speaker 2: out to seek vengeance for an unjust world. And we're

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Speaker 2: going to tell you about the latest offering from Evan Smoke,

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01:19:00,533 --> 01:19:03,613
Speaker 2: Orphan X and Greg Hewitz before Midday to Day. As

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01:19:03,613 --> 01:19:05,573
Speaker 2: well as that, we've got new music from fans Ferdinand,

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01:19:05,613 --> 01:19:07,093
Speaker 2: so I'm going to make we save a little bit

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01:19:07,133 --> 01:19:10,013
Speaker 2: of time. They've just released a brand new album. This

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01:19:10,013 --> 01:19:12,373
Speaker 2: album is a little bit different compared to a couple

1506
01:19:12,373 --> 01:19:14,613
Speaker 2: of their previous offerings, so we'll play a couple of

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01:19:14,613 --> 01:19:17,213
Speaker 2: different songs from that very shortly. Right now, it is

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01:19:17,253 --> 01:19:22,173
Speaker 2: eight minutes past eleven and our sustainability commentator Kate Hall

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01:19:22,293 --> 01:19:25,173
Speaker 2: is back for the new year. Calder Kate, Hey Jack,

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01:19:25,253 --> 01:19:28,213
Speaker 2: how's yeah very good? Thank you? Yeah, really good. A

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01:19:28,213 --> 01:19:31,013
Speaker 2: little bit of outdoor time, but of socializing, a little

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01:19:31,013 --> 01:19:33,653
Speaker 2: bit of time on couch, on the couch with covid

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01:19:33,653 --> 01:19:36,853
Speaker 2: as well, but such as life. Yeah, I know the.

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01:19:36,973 --> 01:19:39,013
Speaker 14: On the couch. I was on the couch too, but

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01:19:39,173 --> 01:19:42,933
Speaker 14: with Billy pregnancy's sickness of benge watching one family, so

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01:19:42,973 --> 01:19:44,333
Speaker 14: I feel you Okay.

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01:19:44,053 --> 01:19:46,893
Speaker 2: Well, as long as you can binge watch something you know,

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01:19:46,933 --> 01:19:49,933
Speaker 2: you can make the most of that time. Yeah yeah,

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01:19:50,013 --> 01:19:52,093
Speaker 2: yeah yeah, So you're probably a bit like us then

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01:19:52,213 --> 01:19:56,813
Speaker 2: haven't had the wildest summer that you might have had otherwise. Anyway, hey,

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01:19:56,853 --> 01:19:59,693
Speaker 2: this morning, you have for us some really practical tips

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01:20:00,013 --> 01:20:02,973
Speaker 2: on getting ready to go back to school in a

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01:20:03,013 --> 01:20:06,293
Speaker 2: sustainable way, because it's one of those times that there's

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01:20:06,613 --> 01:20:08,973
Speaker 2: all sorts of demands for various bits and pieces that

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01:20:09,053 --> 01:20:11,693
Speaker 2: you know, for the kids, and you want to be

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01:20:11,773 --> 01:20:14,293
Speaker 2: as sustainable as possible. So maybe you should start us

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01:20:14,293 --> 01:20:15,693
Speaker 2: off with some of the things you can do at

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01:20:15,693 --> 01:20:17,733
Speaker 2: home to be a bit more sustainable getting ready for

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01:20:17,733 --> 01:20:19,173
Speaker 2: school totally.

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01:20:19,213 --> 01:20:21,373
Speaker 14: So one thing I love about Sentinel back to school

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01:20:21,373 --> 01:20:27,133
Speaker 14: tips is they're also financially sustainable because, like just between

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01:20:27,293 --> 01:20:30,133
Speaker 14: uniforms and all the new things they get, given us

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01:20:30,133 --> 01:20:32,733
Speaker 14: a big list about stuff that they need to buy

1534
01:20:32,773 --> 01:20:35,493
Speaker 14: and bring to school, it can be really overwhelming. So

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01:20:36,493 --> 01:20:40,853
Speaker 14: my first tip is to start at home, literally by

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01:20:40,893 --> 01:20:43,293
Speaker 14: shopping in your own home for things you already have.

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01:20:44,053 --> 01:20:47,853
Speaker 14: So until you've done an actual stock take of you know,

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01:20:48,013 --> 01:20:51,533
Speaker 14: things you've got left over from other kids, or ask

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01:20:51,653 --> 01:20:55,013
Speaker 14: your friends have have school leavers. Until you've done a

1540
01:20:55,013 --> 01:20:57,733
Speaker 14: proper stock take of what actually already exists in your home,

1541
01:20:58,573 --> 01:21:01,853
Speaker 14: don't go out to the shops or buy anything. So yeah,

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01:21:01,973 --> 01:21:04,613
Speaker 14: look around. I do things like I actually even have

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01:21:04,733 --> 01:21:08,733
Speaker 14: some school exercise books that I use just writing and

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01:21:09,613 --> 01:21:12,693
Speaker 14: drawing and writing down notes. That are my old books

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01:21:12,693 --> 01:21:15,933
Speaker 14: from school. Because it's still paper, it's still useful. You

1546
01:21:15,933 --> 01:21:17,093
Speaker 14: can just take out the paper.

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01:21:17,453 --> 01:21:20,293
Speaker 2: You still you're old, I mean, I know you're young,

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01:21:20,613 --> 01:21:22,533
Speaker 2: but you have your school school books.

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01:21:22,893 --> 01:21:24,293
Speaker 14: Yeah, yeah, I have a few.

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01:21:24,493 --> 01:21:27,453
Speaker 2: Yeah, well that's really it's pretty good at Yeah.

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01:21:27,533 --> 01:21:30,093
Speaker 14: Yeah, there are three of us kids, and so yeah, no,

1552
01:21:30,253 --> 01:21:33,253
Speaker 14: there's they're really good at saving. I mean it's paper, right,

1553
01:21:33,253 --> 01:21:36,173
Speaker 14: even if the book's half feed, you can still yeah,

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01:21:36,413 --> 01:21:38,893
Speaker 14: use it up. So yeah, shop around what you do have,

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01:21:39,453 --> 01:21:44,893
Speaker 14: ask other people. Just be really conscious about using what

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01:21:44,933 --> 01:21:48,133
Speaker 14: already exists. And if you do need to buy things,

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01:21:48,173 --> 01:21:51,813
Speaker 14: I mean, obviously there's always pencils, books or different things

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01:21:51,853 --> 01:21:55,253
Speaker 14: that the school does require, shop at second hand stores.

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01:21:55,453 --> 01:21:58,933
Speaker 14: So there's so much stationary at second hand stores. I

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01:21:58,973 --> 01:22:01,453
Speaker 14: think often it's something we don't think about buying sick

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01:22:01,453 --> 01:22:05,733
Speaker 14: and hands. There's even specific stationary kind of stores we

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01:22:05,773 --> 01:22:09,613
Speaker 14: can find great high quality, brand new stuff. All Heart

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01:22:09,653 --> 01:22:15,013
Speaker 14: Stores is well in christ Church, Auckland, Kokoe, Wellington and

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01:22:15,293 --> 01:22:18,133
Speaker 14: that's all kind of office supplies that have been redirected

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01:22:18,173 --> 01:22:20,653
Speaker 14: from corporates. You don't need it or use it.

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01:22:20,773 --> 01:22:22,813
Speaker 2: Hey, I've never heard of this. What's it called? Yeah,

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01:22:22,933 --> 01:22:25,933
Speaker 2: All Heart Store, All Heart Store yep.

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Speaker 14: You can even get you know, office chairs, yeah, like

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01:22:29,733 --> 01:22:33,013
Speaker 14: desks anything. It's really you know, every time you go

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01:22:33,053 --> 01:22:36,173
Speaker 14: in there's all different stuff, but even your paper pens

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01:22:36,253 --> 01:22:39,733
Speaker 14: things like that, just because often officers have access and

1572
01:22:39,773 --> 01:22:43,213
Speaker 14: then sers sending it to landfill, they're send it to Yeah,

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01:22:44,013 --> 01:22:44,493
Speaker 14: I've never.

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01:22:44,373 --> 01:22:46,773
Speaker 2: Heard of this. What a good idea, what a good

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01:22:46,813 --> 01:22:48,613
Speaker 2: points of stuff?

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01:22:49,453 --> 01:22:52,893
Speaker 14: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, So that's a good one. Obviously.

1577
01:22:52,933 --> 01:22:56,773
Speaker 14: If you're thinking about reducing your plastic this year, you

1578
01:22:56,813 --> 01:23:00,773
Speaker 14: can do that a two different ways. Plastic adhesive covers,

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01:23:01,053 --> 01:23:03,893
Speaker 14: I know that, you know, they can be something you

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01:23:03,893 --> 01:23:06,013
Speaker 14: feel like you have to get, but I can pay

1581
01:23:06,013 --> 01:23:09,453
Speaker 14: you lived often without them, and you can do some

1582
01:23:09,573 --> 01:23:13,573
Speaker 14: cool DIY like fabric covers things like that. Again working

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01:23:13,613 --> 01:23:15,653
Speaker 14: within the constraints of the school, right because I do

1584
01:23:15,813 --> 01:23:19,373
Speaker 14: know there's regulations and there's kind of muftas that every

1585
01:23:19,413 --> 01:23:23,173
Speaker 14: different school you know, talks about so yeah, sometimes we

1586
01:23:23,213 --> 01:23:25,133
Speaker 14: can't do it all, but we can try to do

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01:23:25,213 --> 01:23:29,173
Speaker 14: what we can, and that's kind of the school stationary stuff.

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01:23:29,253 --> 01:23:32,333
Speaker 14: But there's also lunch boxes and food. I think there's

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01:23:32,373 --> 01:23:37,013
Speaker 14: another big area we can focus on. Places like ben

1590
01:23:37,053 --> 01:23:40,653
Speaker 14: To Ninja have stainless steel, really really good, high quality

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01:23:40,693 --> 01:23:42,693
Speaker 14: lunchboxes that will see your kids through.

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01:23:44,373 --> 01:23:47,773
Speaker 2: Yeah, so that's like a box, like a Japanese into box.

1593
01:23:47,573 --> 01:23:50,373
Speaker 14: Right, yes, yeah, yeah, that's where the kind of name

1594
01:23:50,453 --> 01:23:53,013
Speaker 14: and the kind of main products come from. But they

1595
01:23:53,013 --> 01:23:56,533
Speaker 14: have all sorts of stuff like, yeah, everything you kind

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01:23:56,573 --> 01:23:59,733
Speaker 14: of need for that to school lunches and investing in

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01:23:59,813 --> 01:24:03,213
Speaker 14: that so literally your child can use that same box

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01:24:03,253 --> 01:24:07,733
Speaker 14: at university one day potentially. That is a really really

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01:24:07,733 --> 01:24:10,533
Speaker 14: good idea. And just thinking about what can I do

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01:24:11,013 --> 01:24:16,493
Speaker 14: this year that you can just help improve the well

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01:24:16,573 --> 01:24:19,733
Speaker 14: being of my child but also can reduce petrol things

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01:24:19,773 --> 01:24:23,333
Speaker 14: like Okay, maybe on Tuesday mornings, we're going to book

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01:24:23,373 --> 01:24:25,813
Speaker 14: to school. Or I have a new friend down the

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01:24:25,893 --> 01:24:28,133
Speaker 14: road and their kid goes to the same school, so

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01:24:28,573 --> 01:24:30,493
Speaker 14: I might be a bit brave and just ask them

1606
01:24:30,533 --> 01:24:34,333
Speaker 14: if we could couple and share that responsibility. So think

1607
01:24:34,373 --> 01:24:37,933
Speaker 14: about these things now, I know school's going back very

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01:24:38,133 --> 01:24:40,813
Speaker 14: very soon, but planning those things so you can set

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01:24:40,853 --> 01:24:42,533
Speaker 14: yourself up for a good year.

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01:24:42,773 --> 01:24:47,373
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like getting the routine sorted early. Like it's

1611
01:24:47,413 --> 01:24:49,573
Speaker 2: a kind of cliche obviously you're seting new habits in

1612
01:24:49,613 --> 01:24:51,493
Speaker 2: the new year, but it is a really good opportunity

1613
01:24:51,573 --> 01:24:54,813
Speaker 2: because because the school day and getting the kids to

1614
01:24:54,893 --> 01:24:56,933
Speaker 2: and from school and getting them feed and getting them

1615
01:24:56,933 --> 01:25:01,293
Speaker 2: with all their various stationary stuff, because that relies on routine,

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01:25:01,493 --> 01:25:03,933
Speaker 2: it's actually just a great opportunity to try and see

1617
01:25:03,973 --> 01:25:06,053
Speaker 2: a couple of new good habits around.

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01:25:05,813 --> 01:25:10,933
Speaker 14: Sustainable exactly, especially while you have potentially, hopefully if you've

1619
01:25:10,933 --> 01:25:13,293
Speaker 14: had a relaxing summer, a little bit more kind of

1620
01:25:13,413 --> 01:25:16,453
Speaker 14: energy to do that. You know, it's it's summerw you know,

1621
01:25:16,533 --> 01:25:18,853
Speaker 14: has a bit more time and space to wrap your

1622
01:25:18,893 --> 01:25:22,613
Speaker 14: head around change because I know, I mean, just getting

1623
01:25:22,653 --> 01:25:24,693
Speaker 14: kids after school is a big thing. So I know

1624
01:25:24,733 --> 01:25:27,253
Speaker 14: it's a big ass to think about sustainability and the

1625
01:25:27,333 --> 01:25:29,853
Speaker 14: environment when it comes to that, but guarantee you're going

1626
01:25:29,893 --> 01:25:33,773
Speaker 14: to save money and yeah, doing things like taking a

1627
01:25:33,813 --> 01:25:36,333
Speaker 14: scooter taking a bike, you could will probably turn up

1628
01:25:36,333 --> 01:25:38,613
Speaker 14: for school a whole lot happier as well. So all

1629
01:25:38,613 --> 01:25:40,613
Speaker 14: these things kind of entertwined with a whole lot of

1630
01:25:40,613 --> 01:25:43,653
Speaker 14: other benefits that I promise aren't just environmental.

1631
01:25:43,893 --> 01:25:46,333
Speaker 2: Yeah, hey, can I can I ask you feeling a

1632
01:25:46,493 --> 01:25:47,613
Speaker 2: little less queasy now?

1633
01:25:47,613 --> 01:25:50,293
Speaker 14: Okay, yes, a lot less queezy?

1634
01:25:51,293 --> 01:25:54,133
Speaker 2: If you have any crazy, crazy cravings or anything.

1635
01:25:55,213 --> 01:25:57,413
Speaker 14: I am am obsessed with ice.

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01:25:58,093 --> 01:26:03,293
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, that's good. I mean there's there are differently

1637
01:26:03,373 --> 01:26:09,333
Speaker 2: crazy or isn't like strawberry milkshakes and olives or something?

1638
01:26:10,093 --> 01:26:12,693
Speaker 14: No ice was everything is good.

1639
01:26:13,373 --> 01:26:15,613
Speaker 2: Ice is very good. If you're feeling abit nauseous as well,

1640
01:26:15,933 --> 01:26:17,173
Speaker 2: this is very very good.

1641
01:26:17,373 --> 01:26:19,773
Speaker 14: Yeah, yeah, I think that's kind of where it came from.

1642
01:26:19,933 --> 01:26:21,533
Speaker 2: I'm peace to hear you feeling a bit better, and

1643
01:26:21,573 --> 01:26:23,173
Speaker 2: thank you so much for those tips. We'll make sure

1644
01:26:23,213 --> 01:26:24,973
Speaker 2: that we put the more at Newstalks, dB, dot co,

1645
01:26:25,093 --> 01:26:27,613
Speaker 2: dot m Z, forward slash jack on our show's page,

1646
01:26:27,653 --> 01:26:28,493
Speaker 2: and we will catch you soon.

1647
01:26:29,493 --> 01:26:30,333
Speaker 14: Thanks very good.

1648
01:26:30,413 --> 01:26:32,173
Speaker 2: That is Kate Hall. You can find her on the

1649
01:26:32,173 --> 01:26:35,733
Speaker 2: social media platforms, of course, by searching ethically. Kate and

1650
01:26:35,773 --> 01:26:38,253
Speaker 2: a couple of minutes, our travel correspondent is here with

1651
01:26:38,373 --> 01:26:42,333
Speaker 2: one of the most popular holiday destinations for kiwis at

1652
01:26:42,333 --> 01:26:44,333
Speaker 2: this time of year, he's taking us all to free

1653
01:26:44,413 --> 01:26:47,333
Speaker 2: roaming Tasman Bay at the top of the South sixteen

1654
01:26:47,333 --> 01:26:48,493
Speaker 2: past eleven non newstalks.

1655
01:26:48,533 --> 01:26:52,293
Speaker 3: He'd be travel with Wendy wo Tours. Where the world

1656
01:26:52,533 --> 01:26:53,493
Speaker 3: is yours.

1657
01:26:53,213 --> 01:26:56,733
Speaker 2: For now, Our travel correspondent Mike Yardley is with us

1658
01:26:56,773 --> 01:26:57,413
Speaker 2: all this morning.

1659
01:26:57,413 --> 01:27:01,013
Speaker 6: Hey Mike, good morning, Jack. Very nice to talk and

1660
01:27:01,053 --> 01:27:03,693
Speaker 6: I thought we would kick off with a power of

1661
01:27:03,733 --> 01:27:07,013
Speaker 6: New Zealand you are intimately familiar with, and half of

1662
01:27:07,093 --> 01:27:08,853
Speaker 6: the country's holidaying there at the moment.

1663
01:27:09,133 --> 01:27:11,693
Speaker 2: Yes, that's true. Half the country is holidaying there at

1664
01:27:11,693 --> 01:27:13,933
Speaker 2: the moment. I was fortunate enough to be holidaying there

1665
01:27:13,933 --> 01:27:17,253
Speaker 2: with my family as well, which is always a pleasure.

1666
01:27:17,253 --> 01:27:20,693
Speaker 2: We're talking about free roaming Tasman Bay, which is the

1667
01:27:20,693 --> 01:27:22,533
Speaker 2: top of the South Island. So for anyone who's not

1668
01:27:22,573 --> 01:27:24,773
Speaker 2: familiar with the geography here, if you divide the top

1669
01:27:24,813 --> 01:27:27,213
Speaker 2: of the South into three parts, you've got Golden Bay

1670
01:27:27,613 --> 01:27:30,453
Speaker 2: on the west side, You've got Tasman Bay in the middle,

1671
01:27:30,493 --> 01:27:32,053
Speaker 2: and then you've got the Marlboro Sounds on the right

1672
01:27:32,133 --> 01:27:34,333
Speaker 2: hand side. That's the best way, or of the easterly side,

1673
01:27:34,333 --> 01:27:37,613
Speaker 2: the way I think about it, Dame. So let's begin

1674
01:27:37,893 --> 01:27:42,413
Speaker 2: in Moteweka, which is a sort of powerhouse of produce these.

1675
01:27:42,293 --> 01:27:45,373
Speaker 6: Days, as sure as Jack as a cat. That was funny.

1676
01:27:45,413 --> 01:27:47,693
Speaker 6: I was feeling very nostalgic when I was there last week.

1677
01:27:47,733 --> 01:27:50,573
Speaker 6: I remember when I was a child, the landscape was

1678
01:27:50,773 --> 01:27:54,453
Speaker 6: just tobacco, that was the staple crop. And of course

1679
01:27:54,493 --> 01:27:57,933
Speaker 6: today that landscape it's kind of like a library of

1680
01:27:58,013 --> 01:28:03,093
Speaker 6: the Yates Garden Guide. You've got hots, you've got apple trees, vineyards,

1681
01:28:03,093 --> 01:28:06,453
Speaker 6: the full spectrum of stone fruit that you obviously have

1682
01:28:06,533 --> 01:28:12,853
Speaker 6: been eating your well generally, you've got berry's galore. You

1683
01:28:12,893 --> 01:28:17,853
Speaker 6: can just eat yourself forever in the Motaweka area. And

1684
01:28:17,893 --> 01:28:20,613
Speaker 6: then there's the ocean delights. I have never come across

1685
01:28:20,613 --> 01:28:22,773
Speaker 6: this before, and I'm intrigued to know if you are

1686
01:28:22,813 --> 01:28:26,013
Speaker 6: aware of this. In Motaweka, if you go down to

1687
01:28:26,053 --> 01:28:29,653
Speaker 6: the port which is dominated by Telly's, because it's the

1688
01:28:29,693 --> 01:28:37,693
Speaker 6: homebase of Telly's, the Tellie's Factory Shop, y oh my goodness.

1689
01:28:37,973 --> 01:28:43,453
Speaker 6: They this justifies a holiday to Mataweka in its own right,

1690
01:28:43,533 --> 01:28:46,853
Speaker 6: because if you go to the Telly's Factory Shop, you

1691
01:28:46,973 --> 01:28:51,973
Speaker 6: get the freshest blue cod from that job and you

1692
01:28:52,013 --> 01:28:54,733
Speaker 6: cock it up in your motel. And I have to

1693
01:28:54,773 --> 01:28:58,453
Speaker 6: say it would be the best tasting bluecot I have

1694
01:28:58,573 --> 01:29:01,533
Speaker 6: devowed in a long time. And it's so much stupor

1695
01:29:01,773 --> 01:29:02,973
Speaker 6: than what you would normally get it for.

1696
01:29:03,133 --> 01:29:05,653
Speaker 2: Yeah, of course, Oh how amazing. That's a great that's

1697
01:29:05,653 --> 01:29:07,893
Speaker 2: a great tip. Like you say, I mean, it's sort

1698
01:29:07,893 --> 01:29:10,253
Speaker 2: of an embarrassment of riches when it comes to that. Yeah,

1699
01:29:10,853 --> 01:29:13,173
Speaker 2: you know, like all of the different kind of farm

1700
01:29:13,213 --> 01:29:18,693
Speaker 2: gate stalls and stuff just selling fresh berries and fresh produce. Yeah,

1701
01:29:18,813 --> 01:29:19,533
Speaker 2: and there's.

1702
01:29:19,293 --> 01:29:22,613
Speaker 6: Still so many, there's so many honesty boxes store opercing.

1703
01:29:22,773 --> 01:29:24,613
Speaker 6: That's part of New Zealand, which I just love. There

1704
01:29:24,693 --> 01:29:26,013
Speaker 6: is an innocence to the place.

1705
01:29:26,213 --> 01:29:29,333
Speaker 2: Yeah, No, you're totally right. Hey is Noel Edmonds river Haven?

1706
01:29:29,493 --> 01:29:33,813
Speaker 6: With a visit it's really interesting. That's quite a quirky enterprise,

1707
01:29:34,053 --> 01:29:37,253
Speaker 6: gorgeous setting in the motterwork of valley village of Natti Malty.

1708
01:29:38,093 --> 01:29:40,573
Speaker 6: But as I'm sure people are aware, the former UK

1709
01:29:40,653 --> 01:29:43,453
Speaker 6: TV star has caught him quite a bit of controversy.

1710
01:29:42,893 --> 01:29:44,013
Speaker 4: In recent years.

1711
01:29:44,213 --> 01:29:47,253
Speaker 6: He seemed to get very much in cahoots with the

1712
01:29:47,253 --> 01:29:51,693
Speaker 6: anti vax crowd during COVID and he bought the property

1713
01:29:51,733 --> 01:29:54,973
Speaker 6: about five years ago, so it was previously known as

1714
01:29:55,173 --> 01:30:00,333
Speaker 6: Dunbar Estates. Today his farm turns out river Haven Peno Greek,

1715
01:30:00,853 --> 01:30:03,733
Speaker 6: really good wine. But there's the cafe, there's a restaurant

1716
01:30:04,133 --> 01:30:06,493
Speaker 6: and the pub, all adjacent to the vineyard which you

1717
01:30:06,573 --> 01:30:10,253
Speaker 6: can stroll through. He's got a massive classic car collection

1718
01:30:10,773 --> 01:30:13,573
Speaker 6: which is on public display. He loves his old jags.

1719
01:30:13,573 --> 01:30:15,893
Speaker 6: But I reckon the big charmer is the pub the

1720
01:30:15,973 --> 01:30:19,453
Speaker 6: bugger in. It's like it's been teleported from a sleepy

1721
01:30:19,453 --> 01:30:24,053
Speaker 6: English village and the word is ITV has done a

1722
01:30:24,133 --> 01:30:26,853
Speaker 6: deal with NOL to do a reality TV show this

1723
01:30:26,973 --> 01:30:33,813
Speaker 6: year from river Haven re Twarkton Farm. It's going to

1724
01:30:33,853 --> 01:30:37,013
Speaker 6: be an old farm. No word jack on whether mister

1725
01:30:37,053 --> 01:30:37,893
Speaker 6: Blobby gets a.

1726
01:30:37,933 --> 01:30:41,813
Speaker 2: Looking Hey, how busy is?

1727
01:30:43,733 --> 01:30:47,213
Speaker 6: Oh my goodness. I was there last week. By midday

1728
01:30:47,413 --> 01:30:50,253
Speaker 6: you could hardly see the sand on the main beach.

1729
01:30:50,693 --> 01:30:54,053
Speaker 6: It was just this vast slab of flesh, a heaving

1730
01:30:54,253 --> 01:30:56,053
Speaker 6: swarm of semi naked humanity.

1731
01:30:56,613 --> 01:30:57,573
Speaker 2: And I don't know.

1732
01:30:57,773 --> 01:31:00,333
Speaker 6: She consider that to be a relaxing holiday, called me

1733
01:31:00,413 --> 01:31:03,373
Speaker 6: old patant. I mean, particularly if you're holidaying with kids,

1734
01:31:03,413 --> 01:31:07,173
Speaker 6: you know, with all that traffic. Mean, I would just

1735
01:31:07,213 --> 01:31:09,573
Speaker 6: be stressed out if I had young kids in Tie.

1736
01:31:10,053 --> 01:31:14,013
Speaker 6: So if you can schedule some beach time for February.

1737
01:31:14,453 --> 01:31:17,493
Speaker 6: It's the place to be because Kriteriator is the central

1738
01:31:17,493 --> 01:31:20,933
Speaker 6: brilliance is all the more pleasurable after that peak summer

1739
01:31:21,293 --> 01:31:24,893
Speaker 6: crush has cleared out. Yeah, it's tabled arc of golden sands.

1740
01:31:25,053 --> 01:31:27,973
Speaker 6: Waking up to that and the first crack of daybreak

1741
01:31:27,973 --> 01:31:30,813
Speaker 6: across Tesdam Bay. That is one of life's great pleasures.

1742
01:31:30,893 --> 01:31:34,293
Speaker 2: Yeah, it is. It is like the landscapes there, the

1743
01:31:34,373 --> 01:31:38,133
Speaker 2: Vesta is ogeous, like it just it feels like something.

1744
01:31:38,213 --> 01:31:38,373
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1745
01:31:38,453 --> 01:31:41,613
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like it's like you're in the Caribbean or

1746
01:31:41,653 --> 01:31:44,373
Speaker 2: something in a way, you know. Yeah, it's just it's

1747
01:31:44,453 --> 01:31:46,493
Speaker 2: been honest. You know that it is the only place

1748
01:31:46,533 --> 01:31:49,053
Speaker 2: in New Zealand. You know that, I like come diving

1749
01:31:49,093 --> 01:31:51,773
Speaker 2: and snorkeling and you know, nothing in the water. It's

1750
01:31:51,813 --> 01:31:54,013
Speaker 2: the only place in New Zealand where I have ever

1751
01:31:54,093 --> 01:31:58,813
Speaker 2: seen a seahorse in the wild. Yeah, in Ky of

1752
01:31:58,813 --> 01:32:00,933
Speaker 2: all places. Yeah, so there you go. Yeah, it is.

1753
01:32:01,093 --> 01:32:01,533
Speaker 4: It's cool.

1754
01:32:01,653 --> 01:32:03,173
Speaker 2: Like you say, though, you probably want a time you

1755
01:32:03,253 --> 01:32:05,773
Speaker 2: run or if you're going to go over the Christmas

1756
01:32:05,853 --> 01:32:08,373
Speaker 2: or news period, you want to book very very early. Indeed,

1757
01:32:09,093 --> 01:32:10,573
Speaker 2: what about daunting to Marpua?

1758
01:32:11,613 --> 01:32:14,613
Speaker 6: I love Marpo and Obviously, over the years a lot

1759
01:32:14,613 --> 01:32:16,693
Speaker 6: of people have seen that name is synonymous with the

1760
01:32:16,733 --> 01:32:21,093
Speaker 6: birthday Suits brigade, but it's actually quite interesting that in

1761
01:32:21,173 --> 01:32:24,293
Speaker 6: terms of the clothing optional set up, it only operates

1762
01:32:24,333 --> 01:32:27,333
Speaker 6: at the local holiday park and it only operates between

1763
01:32:27,533 --> 01:32:33,733
Speaker 6: February and March, so don't let nudity put you although

1764
01:32:33,773 --> 01:32:37,333
Speaker 6: its beach wale season, let's face it. The other thing

1765
01:32:37,333 --> 01:32:39,653
Speaker 6: which I thought was really cool is Marpua and Maldi

1766
01:32:39,733 --> 01:32:43,093
Speaker 6: means abundance or prolific, which is so fitting when you

1767
01:32:43,173 --> 01:32:46,493
Speaker 6: go down to Marpoo Wharf, which is just such a

1768
01:32:46,693 --> 01:32:50,853
Speaker 6: leisure in pleasure zone and it's a really easy hopscotch

1769
01:32:51,013 --> 01:32:54,053
Speaker 6: from the wharf across the Rabbit Island with that theory

1770
01:32:54,053 --> 01:32:55,173
Speaker 6: that runs between the two.

1771
01:32:55,333 --> 01:32:57,053
Speaker 2: Yeah, any standouts at the wharf for you?

1772
01:32:58,053 --> 01:33:01,613
Speaker 6: Oh, it's just buzzing Marpoo Wharf and it just seems

1773
01:33:01,653 --> 01:33:06,373
Speaker 6: to grow from year to year in terms of its offerings.

1774
01:33:06,453 --> 01:33:09,893
Speaker 6: Many great hospital spots. I love Golden Beer. It is

1775
01:33:09,973 --> 01:33:13,733
Speaker 6: such a fabulous brew pub and man I was checking

1776
01:33:13,773 --> 01:33:16,973
Speaker 6: up their roster of live gigs. Over the next four

1777
01:33:17,053 --> 01:33:20,293
Speaker 6: or five weeks they had so many live gigs at

1778
01:33:20,333 --> 01:33:24,813
Speaker 6: Golden Beer. I still love Hamish's ice Creams, which is

1779
01:33:25,173 --> 01:33:29,453
Speaker 6: right across from Golden Beer. The real fruit concoctions are

1780
01:33:29,533 --> 01:33:31,933
Speaker 6: just so good, just you know, tapping into all of

1781
01:33:31,933 --> 01:33:37,573
Speaker 6: that locally grown beery bizo and the cues. I reckon

1782
01:33:37,773 --> 01:33:41,053
Speaker 6: if you lined up Ferg Burger cues to Hamish's ice

1783
01:33:41,093 --> 01:33:44,773
Speaker 6: Cream Queuess just might get the nod at this time.

1784
01:33:44,613 --> 01:33:44,933
Speaker 2: Of the year.

1785
01:33:45,053 --> 01:33:48,013
Speaker 6: Just the sear side. And if you're looking for a

1786
01:33:48,013 --> 01:33:51,813
Speaker 6: bit of art, Jack, I would definitely suggest people check

1787
01:33:51,853 --> 01:33:54,653
Speaker 6: out col Store Gallery. It's one of the Wharfs originals

1788
01:33:55,253 --> 01:33:58,773
Speaker 6: and it's just a legendary destination for in the no art.

1789
01:33:59,013 --> 01:34:04,053
Speaker 6: It's just amazing paintings, jewelry, sculptures. Yeah, col Star is

1790
01:34:04,213 --> 01:34:04,773
Speaker 6: super cool.

1791
01:34:05,013 --> 01:34:07,813
Speaker 2: Where is the Great Taste Trail take you to?

1792
01:34:09,013 --> 01:34:12,533
Speaker 6: It can take you so many places, the places you

1793
01:34:12,573 --> 01:34:15,293
Speaker 6: will ride to. So it's two hundred kilometers long. It

1794
01:34:15,373 --> 01:34:17,853
Speaker 6: is a whopper of a trail. It trially is one

1795
01:34:17,893 --> 01:34:20,693
Speaker 6: of New Zealand's great rides. So over two thirds of

1796
01:34:20,733 --> 01:34:23,253
Speaker 6: it is off road, but it can take you up

1797
01:34:23,293 --> 01:34:26,173
Speaker 6: to Ka Territory, through the Motorweka Valley. It goes all

1798
01:34:26,213 --> 01:34:30,093
Speaker 6: the way now to Nelson Richmond. But I want to

1799
01:34:30,173 --> 01:34:33,453
Speaker 6: love about it it's sort of tastily arranged into bite

1800
01:34:33,533 --> 01:34:37,133
Speaker 6: sized chunks. So I've done the Richmond to Marpooa section. Right,

1801
01:34:37,213 --> 01:34:40,733
Speaker 6: that's a really easy twenty k ride, flat as a pancake,

1802
01:34:41,013 --> 01:34:43,293
Speaker 6: pretty much around the water's edge. It does go through

1803
01:34:43,413 --> 01:34:45,693
Speaker 6: rabbit islands as well, and then you just jump on

1804
01:34:45,733 --> 01:34:50,053
Speaker 6: the fury across to Martha. The valley rides are really good, LIKESU.

1805
01:34:50,053 --> 01:34:51,893
Speaker 6: If you want to add in a few vineyards like

1806
01:34:53,053 --> 01:34:58,053
Speaker 6: Nudoff or Motory Hills Vineyard, take the rural routes and

1807
01:34:59,013 --> 01:35:01,933
Speaker 6: it's just adding a bit of solitude to your ride

1808
01:35:01,933 --> 01:35:02,413
Speaker 6: as well.

1809
01:35:02,493 --> 01:35:02,693
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1810
01:35:02,853 --> 01:35:05,573
Speaker 2: Nice. And it even goes right outside the front door

1811
01:35:05,653 --> 01:35:08,133
Speaker 2: of my and brother in law's place, so you might

1812
01:35:08,173 --> 01:35:11,493
Speaker 2: see my nephews and niece's running around as well through

1813
01:35:11,493 --> 01:35:16,053
Speaker 2: bright Water. Yeah, exactly, exactly. Don't be afraid to bang

1814
01:35:16,133 --> 01:35:19,613
Speaker 2: on the door and demand some refreshments. Hey, thank you, Mike. Yeah,

1815
01:35:19,773 --> 01:35:21,853
Speaker 2: like you say, it is a gorgeous part of the country,

1816
01:35:21,853 --> 01:35:23,693
Speaker 2: one I absolutely love, and I know many of our

1817
01:35:23,693 --> 01:35:25,933
Speaker 2: listeners do too. We'll put all of Mike's tips for

1818
01:35:26,053 --> 01:35:29,093
Speaker 2: making your way through Tasman Bay up on the news

1819
01:35:29,093 --> 01:35:33,053
Speaker 2: talks he'd be website, alongside everything from our show before midday.

1820
01:35:33,093 --> 01:35:36,493
Speaker 2: That new music from Franz Ferdinand, a new album, new

1821
01:35:36,573 --> 01:35:38,533
Speaker 2: music from my frands, food Net, a new book rather

1822
01:35:38,653 --> 01:35:41,253
Speaker 2: with Evan Smoke An Orphan X that we will recommend

1823
01:35:41,293 --> 01:35:43,133
Speaker 2: to you very shortly. Next up we'll see what Jason

1824
01:35:43,133 --> 01:35:45,533
Speaker 2: Pine is planning for us on Weekend Sport this afternoon,

1825
01:35:46,093 --> 01:35:48,533
Speaker 2: just gone twenty eight minutes past eleven.

1826
01:35:52,253 --> 01:35:53,933
Speaker 3: Getting your weekends started.

1827
01:35:54,093 --> 01:35:57,453
Speaker 1: It's Saturday morning with Jack Team on News Talks.

1828
01:35:57,453 --> 01:35:59,213
Speaker 2: He'd be I can.

1829
01:35:59,293 --> 01:36:32,333
Speaker 21: Hold it in the late you just said it looks.

1830
01:36:23,573 --> 01:36:24,493
Speaker 3: Only wear them.

1831
01:36:25,773 --> 01:36:32,013
Speaker 2: This is Nadia Reed beautiful a. This is her latest single,

1832
01:36:32,293 --> 01:36:35,453
Speaker 2: just released this week. It's called hold It Up. She's

1833
01:36:35,493 --> 01:36:38,253
Speaker 2: got a new album about to drop. The album's called

1834
01:36:38,413 --> 01:36:42,173
Speaker 2: inter Now Brightness. This has a beautiful video as well.

1835
01:36:42,173 --> 01:36:44,933
Speaker 2: It's shot on Pahart that she went in shot. So yeah,

1836
01:36:45,093 --> 01:36:47,573
Speaker 2: very much looking forward to listening to Narnia's new album

1837
01:36:48,573 --> 01:36:50,893
Speaker 2: right now. It's just gone eleven thirty on your Saturday morning.

1838
01:36:50,893 --> 01:36:52,693
Speaker 2: You were Jack Tay and Jason Pine is behind the

1839
01:36:52,693 --> 01:36:56,013
Speaker 2: mic this afternoon with Weekends Sport. Keld to Piney Calder Jack,

1840
01:36:56,053 --> 01:36:59,093
Speaker 2: welcome back, thank you very much, sir. Yeah, it's I've

1841
01:36:59,133 --> 01:37:00,733
Speaker 2: had a lovely little break. I hope you've had a

1842
01:37:00,773 --> 01:37:02,773
Speaker 2: good summer. I know you're a busy man, though you

1843
01:37:02,773 --> 01:37:05,373
Speaker 2: don't get quite as quite as luxurious a break as

1844
01:37:05,373 --> 01:37:07,493
Speaker 2: I do at this time of year. I think that's right.

1845
01:37:07,573 --> 01:37:09,333
Speaker 2: I think we know there's a certain pecking order to

1846
01:37:09,413 --> 01:37:11,213
Speaker 2: There's nothing to do with the pecking order. It's just

1847
01:37:11,293 --> 01:37:13,413
Speaker 2: that you know they can afford to live without some

1848
01:37:13,493 --> 01:37:18,653
Speaker 2: of us for extended periods. Apparently, say yeah, hey, you

1849
01:37:18,733 --> 01:37:22,453
Speaker 2: must be delighting in this new Chris Ward deal signing.

1850
01:37:22,493 --> 01:37:25,213
Speaker 2: I mean I felt confident he was going to be

1851
01:37:25,253 --> 01:37:27,533
Speaker 2: signing for another couple of years. I think Nottingham Forest

1852
01:37:27,533 --> 01:37:29,813
Speaker 2: has been negotiating with him for a few months now,

1853
01:37:29,853 --> 01:37:32,893
Speaker 2: but signing through to twenty twenty seven after what has

1854
01:37:33,013 --> 01:37:37,693
Speaker 2: been so far the standout season of his professional football career.

1855
01:37:38,013 --> 01:37:41,773
Speaker 22: Absolutely, And the thing that's, you know, most interesting about

1856
01:37:41,813 --> 01:37:44,533
Speaker 22: this is that this has happened over time. It's been

1857
01:37:44,853 --> 01:37:46,733
Speaker 22: a slow burn for Chris Ward. You know, he's been

1858
01:37:46,773 --> 01:37:50,173
Speaker 22: gone from New Zealand since he was seventeen. This deal

1859
01:37:50,293 --> 01:37:53,573
Speaker 22: takes him through to just before his thirty seventh birthday,

1860
01:37:53,733 --> 01:37:56,813
Speaker 22: so two decades plying his trade often in the lower

1861
01:37:56,853 --> 01:37:59,093
Speaker 22: leagues in England. Yeah, he got into the Premier League

1862
01:37:59,093 --> 01:38:01,933
Speaker 22: through Burnley and started to become a player, had an

1863
01:38:02,013 --> 01:38:05,253
Speaker 22: unhappy time at Newcastle, But Nottingham Forest he's just turned

1864
01:38:05,333 --> 01:38:09,053
Speaker 22: up there and has just gone through this renaissance and

1865
01:38:09,533 --> 01:38:12,573
Speaker 22: look has lifted Nottingham Forest up to what top.

1866
01:38:12,413 --> 01:38:15,173
Speaker 2: Three in the table. They couldn't possibly have dreamed of that?

1867
01:38:15,413 --> 01:38:19,093
Speaker 22: Yeah, yeah, but but good on a reward this season

1868
01:38:19,173 --> 01:38:21,893
Speaker 22: and then two more. I was sort of spitballing this

1869
01:38:21,933 --> 01:38:24,413
Speaker 22: a bit yesterday, Jack, As I say, he'll be just

1870
01:38:24,533 --> 01:38:28,333
Speaker 22: before his thirty seventh birthday when that contract runs out.

1871
01:38:28,373 --> 01:38:31,013
Speaker 22: You wonder, don't you whether he might finish it where

1872
01:38:31,013 --> 01:38:32,893
Speaker 22: it started back here in New Zealand.

1873
01:38:32,973 --> 01:38:35,013
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that would be wonderful to see. It

1874
01:38:35,053 --> 01:38:38,773
Speaker 2: was interesting. So apparently in his contract negotiations right there,

1875
01:38:38,813 --> 01:38:41,773
Speaker 2: I think he had some interest from MLS Major League

1876
01:38:41,853 --> 01:38:46,093
Speaker 2: Soccer and he's he's newly married, I think, isn't he?

1877
01:38:45,613 --> 01:38:48,253
Speaker 2: You know he would so obviously there will be some

1878
01:38:48,493 --> 01:38:51,133
Speaker 2: kind of family commitments. But my goodness, imagine if he

1879
01:38:51,213 --> 01:38:53,853
Speaker 2: were to come back and play a couple of seasons

1880
01:38:53,853 --> 01:38:56,293
Speaker 2: in the A League. It would just be so special,

1881
01:38:56,293 --> 01:38:58,493
Speaker 2: wouldn't it. And you know, I feel like the football

1882
01:38:59,893 --> 01:39:03,093
Speaker 2: you know, the football environment the left. You know when

1883
01:39:03,093 --> 01:39:05,453
Speaker 2: he was seventeen in New Zealand has changed a lot

1884
01:39:05,533 --> 01:39:07,413
Speaker 2: in the in the twenty years that he's been away,

1885
01:39:07,573 --> 01:39:10,093
Speaker 2: and no small part because of his achievements.

1886
01:39:10,293 --> 01:39:12,133
Speaker 22: No, that's actually a really good point. He has been

1887
01:39:12,293 --> 01:39:15,613
Speaker 22: a real trailblazer and a you know, a guy, a

1888
01:39:15,693 --> 01:39:17,613
Speaker 22: role model, I guess you want to use the right phrase.

1889
01:39:17,653 --> 01:39:20,613
Speaker 22: But and people might say, well, why would he come back, Well,

1890
01:39:20,773 --> 01:39:23,973
Speaker 22: he always comes back for all white. It doesn't matter

1891
01:39:23,973 --> 01:39:27,053
Speaker 22: if it's an intercontinental playoff or a game against Papua

1892
01:39:27,133 --> 01:39:30,333
Speaker 22: New Guinea. You know he comes back for all of them.

1893
01:39:30,373 --> 01:39:32,453
Speaker 2: I was at that. I was at the game they

1894
01:39:32,533 --> 01:39:36,533
Speaker 2: played at Eden Park against the Australians last year or

1895
01:39:36,533 --> 01:39:38,013
Speaker 2: the year it must have been two years ago now,

1896
01:39:38,413 --> 01:39:40,813
Speaker 2: and you know he'd flown back that week and I

1897
01:39:40,853 --> 01:39:43,173
Speaker 2: think he was injured in the first twenty minutes or so,

1898
01:39:43,253 --> 01:39:45,693
Speaker 2: and so he came off obviously has to be pretty careful.

1899
01:39:45,973 --> 01:39:48,013
Speaker 2: And I remember he just stood right in front of

1900
01:39:48,053 --> 01:39:51,133
Speaker 2: me on the sideline signing autographs for about an hour,

1901
01:39:51,773 --> 01:39:53,893
Speaker 2: like just for the whole game. He stood there, didn't

1902
01:39:53,933 --> 01:39:55,973
Speaker 2: go off a halftime, just stayed there signing autograph for

1903
01:39:56,053 --> 01:39:58,573
Speaker 2: all the kids like just and there's no you know,

1904
01:39:58,813 --> 01:40:03,053
Speaker 2: there's no one contractually requiring him to do. It's just

1905
01:40:03,093 --> 01:40:05,853
Speaker 2: a yeah, yeah, it's it's I think it's remarkable what

1906
01:40:05,933 --> 01:40:09,093
Speaker 2: he's achieved. It's funny. I think back to you. I

1907
01:40:09,133 --> 01:40:11,093
Speaker 2: think about back to the Football World Cup in South

1908
01:40:11,133 --> 01:40:15,413
Speaker 2: Africa and you know, he there was what twenty ten,

1909
01:40:15,853 --> 01:40:18,453
Speaker 2: and I remember he came on as a substitute in

1910
01:40:18,533 --> 01:40:21,093
Speaker 2: one of those games and he must have only been

1911
01:40:21,093 --> 01:40:23,253
Speaker 2: a teenager at the time, and he looked at goods then.

1912
01:40:23,493 --> 01:40:25,653
Speaker 2: And to think of you think of how far he's

1913
01:40:25,693 --> 01:40:27,413
Speaker 2: gone in the year since, you know, and to think

1914
01:40:27,413 --> 01:40:29,653
Speaker 2: that he might have a crack at one more Football

1915
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Speaker 2: World Cup of four things go well over the next

1916
01:40:31,493 --> 01:40:34,213
Speaker 2: couple of months. I just yeah, it's a great story. Yeah.

1917
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Speaker 22: And you often here said, you know, do we appreciate

1918
01:40:37,093 --> 01:40:39,293
Speaker 22: him enough? I think we do. I think we're learning to.

1919
01:40:39,893 --> 01:40:41,693
Speaker 22: It seems like every time you turn on turn on

1920
01:40:41,693 --> 01:40:43,973
Speaker 22: a news bullet and on a Monday these days.

1921
01:40:43,773 --> 01:40:46,293
Speaker 2: Yes, Chris Ward's scoring another goal. You know, I'll happily

1922
01:40:46,293 --> 01:40:48,013
Speaker 2: talk about him. I'll happily talk about him for the

1923
01:40:48,053 --> 01:40:50,893
Speaker 2: rest of today. My dad I was I was debating

1924
01:40:50,933 --> 01:40:53,493
Speaker 2: it with my dad at a home a couple of

1925
01:40:53,533 --> 01:40:55,573
Speaker 2: weeks ago, and you know, Dad said, oh, yeah, you know,

1926
01:40:55,613 --> 01:40:58,333
Speaker 2: he's had a great season. My dad loves all. He's

1927
01:40:58,333 --> 01:40:59,813
Speaker 2: had a great season, you know, but you know, it

1928
01:40:59,813 --> 01:41:03,493
Speaker 2: doesn't take enough on his left foot. And two days

1929
01:41:03,573 --> 01:41:05,933
Speaker 2: later he played in his Liverpool top of the table

1930
01:41:06,173 --> 01:41:08,813
Speaker 2: and scored the only goal with his left foot one

1931
01:41:08,973 --> 01:41:10,853
Speaker 2: first tarts and I was like, how Dad, is there

1932
01:41:12,413 --> 01:41:15,573
Speaker 2: a well, yeah, yeah, he needs to do it more

1933
01:41:15,573 --> 01:41:17,933
Speaker 2: wrong exactly. Be good to see a few more of those,

1934
01:41:17,973 --> 01:41:19,053
Speaker 2: you know. It's just yeah, yeah.

1935
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Speaker 22: Anyway, Hey, I was on the show this afternoon. Well

1936
01:41:21,733 --> 01:41:23,693
Speaker 22: I'm coming to you from christ Church today. O Phoenix

1937
01:41:23,693 --> 01:41:25,133
Speaker 22: has got a game here a bit later on, and

1938
01:41:25,893 --> 01:41:28,093
Speaker 22: christ Church Stadium is taking shape. I'm not sure the

1939
01:41:28,133 --> 01:41:31,533
Speaker 22: last time you were down here, but tekaha it's fantastic.

1940
01:41:31,613 --> 01:41:34,933
Speaker 22: Oh it's like a spaceship has landed in the middle

1941
01:41:34,933 --> 01:41:36,973
Speaker 22: of christ Church. So I kind of want to track

1942
01:41:37,013 --> 01:41:39,493
Speaker 22: some progress on that. The update i'm hearing and we'll

1943
01:41:39,493 --> 01:41:41,733
Speaker 22: get the official one this afternoon is that it's still

1944
01:41:41,773 --> 01:41:44,573
Speaker 22: on track for an April opening next year, April twenty

1945
01:41:44,613 --> 01:41:47,093
Speaker 22: twenty six, So I want to chat a bit about that.

1946
01:41:47,173 --> 01:41:50,933
Speaker 22: But one of one of christ Church's favorite sons, Richie

1947
01:41:50,973 --> 01:41:53,573
Speaker 22: more Unga will not be home by then, by the sounds,

1948
01:41:53,613 --> 01:41:55,773
Speaker 22: but not until the middle of next year, so I

1949
01:41:55,813 --> 01:41:57,533
Speaker 22: want to unpack that as well.

1950
01:41:57,933 --> 01:41:59,413
Speaker 2: Hamis Kurtz on the show this afternoon.

1951
01:41:59,453 --> 01:42:03,093
Speaker 22: First time he's jumped, certainly in high jump anyway, since

1952
01:42:03,333 --> 01:42:05,853
Speaker 22: he won his Olympic gold medal back in August.

1953
01:42:05,893 --> 01:42:06,333
Speaker 2: Have a chatter.

1954
01:42:06,573 --> 01:42:09,293
Speaker 22: We'll preve you the Phoenix this afternoon, and oh Ossi

1955
01:42:09,333 --> 01:42:10,133
Speaker 22: Tennis open as well.

1956
01:42:10,133 --> 01:42:13,573
Speaker 2: Go onto Jack. Yeah, Women's final tonight, Men's tomorrow, superb

1957
01:42:13,613 --> 01:42:15,813
Speaker 2: looking forward to it. Thank you, sir. Good to hear boys.

1958
01:42:16,013 --> 01:42:19,093
Speaker 2: Jason Pine with us this afternoon from the three Auto

1959
01:42:19,333 --> 01:42:21,893
Speaker 2: Tucky christ Church with Weekends Sport. He'll be with us

1960
01:42:21,933 --> 01:42:24,333
Speaker 2: right after the midday news before twelve o'clock. That new

1961
01:42:24,373 --> 01:42:27,453
Speaker 2: album from fans Ferdinand Right now, it's twenty three minutes

1962
01:42:27,493 --> 01:42:27,893
Speaker 2: to twelve.

1963
01:42:28,413 --> 01:42:30,653
Speaker 1: No better way to kick off your weekend than with

1964
01:42:30,813 --> 01:42:34,453
Speaker 1: Jack Saturday Mornings with Jack Team and bepuret on codt

1965
01:42:34,533 --> 01:42:37,413
Speaker 1: Nzen for high quality Supplements News Talks.

1966
01:42:37,253 --> 01:42:39,933
Speaker 2: EDB twenty one to twelve one news Talks. He'd be

1967
01:42:40,093 --> 01:42:42,653
Speaker 2: Katherine Rain's our book reviewer, has her picks for us

1968
01:42:42,653 --> 01:42:46,813
Speaker 2: this weekend, including the latest by Greg Hurwitz. Orphan X

1969
01:42:47,093 --> 01:42:50,133
Speaker 2: is back tell us about Nemesis Catherine.

1970
01:42:50,373 --> 01:42:52,533
Speaker 23: So this is actually book ten in the series, and

1971
01:42:52,653 --> 01:42:55,733
Speaker 23: Evans Smoke is the main protagonist and he's known for

1972
01:42:55,773 --> 01:42:57,333
Speaker 23: the rest of the world is Orphan X and they

1973
01:42:57,373 --> 01:43:01,253
Speaker 23: nowhere when and he's from a he's broken out of

1974
01:43:01,253 --> 01:43:04,173
Speaker 23: our government black ops programmers, where his background is. And

1975
01:43:04,213 --> 01:43:07,453
Speaker 23: he has this certain set up of rules and values

1976
01:43:07,493 --> 01:43:09,293
Speaker 23: that he lives by, and the top of that list

1977
01:43:09,333 --> 01:43:12,293
Speaker 23: for him is loyalty and that sort of strong code

1978
01:43:12,293 --> 01:43:15,213
Speaker 23: of right and wrong helps him he believes remain sort

1979
01:43:15,213 --> 01:43:18,053
Speaker 23: of human as opposed to being a heartless killing machine.

1980
01:43:18,453 --> 01:43:21,653
Speaker 23: But his best friend Tommy seems to have broken this code,

1981
01:43:21,733 --> 01:43:24,453
Speaker 23: and he provided weapons to an assassin who targets some

1982
01:43:24,533 --> 01:43:27,333
Speaker 23: innocent victims, and that's a line Evan does not cross,

1983
01:43:27,853 --> 01:43:29,533
Speaker 23: and so they end up confronting each other and they

1984
01:43:29,533 --> 01:43:32,213
Speaker 23: sort of retreat back, realizing that the next time they

1985
01:43:32,253 --> 01:43:35,333
Speaker 23: ever meet, they're going to be enemies. And at the meantime,

1986
01:43:35,453 --> 01:43:38,493
Speaker 23: Evan's trying to negotiate his home life and his relationship

1987
01:43:38,573 --> 01:43:41,053
Speaker 23: with Joey, and Joey's trying to figure out who she

1988
01:43:41,213 --> 01:43:43,453
Speaker 23: is as a young girl who was raised to be

1989
01:43:43,493 --> 01:43:45,773
Speaker 23: a killer, but she's now instead going to college and

1990
01:43:45,813 --> 01:43:48,013
Speaker 23: trying to struggling to fit in and social media and

1991
01:43:48,053 --> 01:43:51,653
Speaker 23: all that sort of stuff. And then also Tommy, the

1992
01:43:51,693 --> 01:43:54,693
Speaker 23: other guy, has his own problems. He has an old

1993
01:43:54,853 --> 01:43:58,373
Speaker 23: army barbie Miami buddy who died in his arms, and

1994
01:43:59,013 --> 01:44:00,573
Speaker 23: he said that he had helped his son if he

1995
01:44:00,573 --> 01:44:02,973
Speaker 23: ever called, and that son calls him the favor and

1996
01:44:03,013 --> 01:44:05,533
Speaker 23: he ends up in this rural town and this corrupt

1997
01:44:05,573 --> 01:44:09,333
Speaker 23: cops and and anger and tension, and he's trying to

1998
01:44:09,373 --> 01:44:13,093
Speaker 23: keep his promise. And then even often X ends up

1999
01:44:13,133 --> 01:44:15,373
Speaker 23: there as well, and that's where the plot and the

2000
01:44:15,453 --> 01:44:19,413
Speaker 23: tension ramps up and becomes fast and furious, and you

2001
01:44:19,533 --> 01:44:22,573
Speaker 23: keep them turning the pages to see where these characters

2002
01:44:22,653 --> 01:44:26,093
Speaker 23: end up next. So yeah, kind of typical Greek. Heurwitz

2003
01:44:26,133 --> 01:44:27,453
Speaker 23: really keeps you on the edge of you seat.

2004
01:44:27,573 --> 01:44:31,053
Speaker 2: Yeah, very good. Okay, that's Nemesis by Greg Heurwitz. You've

2005
01:44:31,093 --> 01:44:33,013
Speaker 2: also read The Crash by FRIEDA. McFadden.

2006
01:44:33,733 --> 01:44:36,213
Speaker 23: So in the story, eight months ago, Teagan had gone

2007
01:44:36,213 --> 01:44:39,013
Speaker 23: out with some friends and she meets this handsome stranger

2008
01:44:39,613 --> 01:44:42,053
Speaker 23: and then a few weeks later she discovers she's pregnant,

2009
01:44:42,093 --> 01:44:45,253
Speaker 23: and she contacts him and she learns of two things

2010
01:44:45,253 --> 01:44:48,933
Speaker 23: from there that actually, this guy Simon is an incredibly

2011
01:44:48,973 --> 01:44:52,253
Speaker 23: wealthy marriage man who really wants nothing to do with her,

2012
01:44:52,933 --> 01:44:55,013
Speaker 23: and the other thing is that he's willing to pay

2013
01:44:55,053 --> 01:44:57,573
Speaker 23: this enormous sum of money to keep her quiet in

2014
01:44:57,613 --> 01:45:01,453
Speaker 23: exchange for her signing a non disclosure agreement. But when

2015
01:45:01,453 --> 01:45:05,133
Speaker 23: they meet for signing the agreement, she kind of some

2016
01:45:05,253 --> 01:45:07,893
Speaker 23: memories of that night end up triggering for her, and

2017
01:45:07,893 --> 01:45:10,173
Speaker 23: she decides to just refuse the money, and she's going

2018
01:45:10,213 --> 01:45:11,933
Speaker 23: to head to her brother's house, which is a couple

2019
01:45:11,973 --> 01:45:14,213
Speaker 23: of hours away, but she ends up in a blizzard

2020
01:45:14,253 --> 01:45:16,773
Speaker 23: and a snowstorm and ends up crashing in the middle

2021
01:45:16,813 --> 01:45:20,253
Speaker 23: of rural Maine and no seale service, and she's broken

2022
01:45:20,253 --> 01:45:22,093
Speaker 23: her ankle and there's no way to reach her brother,

2023
01:45:22,293 --> 01:45:24,893
Speaker 23: and this man Hank stops and rescues her and takes

2024
01:45:24,893 --> 01:45:27,213
Speaker 23: her back to his house along with his wife, Polly,

2025
01:45:28,013 --> 01:45:30,293
Speaker 23: and she goes because she's kind of out of options,

2026
01:45:30,333 --> 01:45:32,653
Speaker 23: but she's kind of not really sure where she is,

2027
01:45:32,693 --> 01:45:36,493
Speaker 23: and she suspects that nothing's really quite right, and that's

2028
01:45:36,613 --> 01:45:39,213
Speaker 23: kind of where the plot starts, and there's lots of

2029
01:45:39,733 --> 01:45:42,573
Speaker 23: twists and turns, and it's impossible to figure out who

2030
01:45:42,613 --> 01:45:45,573
Speaker 23: can be trusted and who has ulterior motives, and a

2031
01:45:45,573 --> 01:45:47,853
Speaker 23: big reminder that people are not always what they've seem

2032
01:45:47,893 --> 01:45:49,693
Speaker 23: in The book's a little bit dark and a little

2033
01:45:49,693 --> 01:45:51,813
Speaker 23: bit twisted, and a little bit of a layer of

2034
01:45:51,853 --> 01:45:54,853
Speaker 23: creepiness in there as well, but certainly a great plot

2035
01:45:54,893 --> 01:45:56,133
Speaker 23: with lots of twists and turns.

2036
01:45:56,413 --> 01:45:59,213
Speaker 2: Very good. Okay, that's by Freda McFadden. That one's called

2037
01:45:59,253 --> 01:46:02,013
Speaker 2: The Crash, and Catherine's first book is the latest or

2038
01:46:02,013 --> 01:46:05,653
Speaker 2: for next, the tenth one by Greg Hurwitz, it's called Nemesis,

2039
01:46:05,693 --> 01:46:07,973
Speaker 2: Nemesis and The Crash. Both of those will be on

2040
01:46:08,013 --> 01:46:10,653
Speaker 2: our website seventeen to twelve. On news talks, here'd be

2041
01:46:10,733 --> 01:46:13,133
Speaker 2: new music from fans Ferdinand next.

2042
01:46:13,093 --> 01:46:15,613
Speaker 1: Giving you the inside scoop on All you Need to

2043
01:46:15,733 --> 01:46:18,813
Speaker 1: Us Saturday Mornings with Jack Dame and Vpewre dot co

2044
01:46:18,933 --> 01:46:21,093
Speaker 1: dot nzet for high quality Supplements.

2045
01:46:21,293 --> 01:46:22,213
Speaker 3: News Talks, it'd.

2046
01:46:22,093 --> 01:46:44,373
Speaker 13: Be loves You.

2047
01:46:44,773 --> 01:46:47,373
Speaker 2: Well, look, we're all open minded on this program, aren't we.

2048
01:46:47,893 --> 01:46:50,453
Speaker 2: So that sounds a little bit different. I'm going to

2049
01:46:50,493 --> 01:46:55,093
Speaker 2: be the first to say it. This is hooked. It's

2050
01:46:55,133 --> 01:46:57,813
Speaker 2: a new song from Franz Ferdinand. They've got an album

2051
01:46:57,893 --> 01:46:59,773
Speaker 2: called The Human Fear, so at least they're sort of

2052
01:46:59,773 --> 01:47:03,093
Speaker 2: sticking with a theme there. The Stale Clifford our music

2053
01:47:03,133 --> 01:47:05,693
Speaker 2: reviewer has been listening to it and she's with us, now,

2054
01:47:06,893 --> 01:47:07,413
Speaker 2: how are you doing.

2055
01:47:08,293 --> 01:47:11,013
Speaker 24: I'm glad that we've started right with that song because

2056
01:47:11,293 --> 01:47:13,693
Speaker 24: it's probably the only song on the album that doesn't

2057
01:47:13,813 --> 01:47:15,093
Speaker 24: jump out as Frandsford man.

2058
01:47:15,333 --> 01:47:18,133
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's definitely different. It's different.

2059
01:47:18,453 --> 01:47:20,173
Speaker 24: So I don't know if you've ever heard, but the

2060
01:47:20,293 --> 01:47:24,013
Speaker 24: genre that they're in right that early two thousands snawtys

2061
01:47:24,133 --> 01:47:27,853
Speaker 24: kind of bands that are the UK post post punk grunge.

2062
01:47:27,933 --> 01:47:30,133
Speaker 11: They're actually now dubbed Indie Sleeves.

2063
01:47:31,933 --> 01:47:33,613
Speaker 2: That fits, yeah, yeah, it does.

2064
01:47:33,493 --> 01:47:34,653
Speaker 11: Fit in the sleeves.

2065
01:47:36,933 --> 01:47:38,973
Speaker 24: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, all those guys, yeah, they're

2066
01:47:38,973 --> 01:47:41,013
Speaker 24: all the Arctic Sleeves kind of grew, but they weren't

2067
01:47:41,053 --> 01:47:43,733
Speaker 24: called that then. They're just known as that now because

2068
01:47:43,773 --> 01:47:46,133
Speaker 24: it's kind of like they're the grungy you went to

2069
01:47:46,173 --> 01:47:47,893
Speaker 24: the pubs and you had a sneaky snog in.

2070
01:47:47,813 --> 01:47:51,333
Speaker 2: The bathroom, yeah right, yeah, I mean.

2071
01:47:51,253 --> 01:47:56,133
Speaker 24: Apparently apparently yeah yeah yeah, And I'm like, yeah, that

2072
01:47:56,253 --> 01:47:58,493
Speaker 24: song just like is totally there. But then there's that

2073
01:47:58,613 --> 01:48:01,293
Speaker 24: like electronic rock thing where you're like, it sounds like

2074
01:48:01,293 --> 01:48:03,253
Speaker 24: we're in a video game. And then he's got that

2075
01:48:03,373 --> 01:48:07,893
Speaker 24: really kind of almost scary, weird voice lower tone. So

2076
01:48:07,893 --> 01:48:10,453
Speaker 24: it just like really snaps out from the rest of

2077
01:48:10,493 --> 01:48:13,253
Speaker 24: the album because as you'll hear when you play some

2078
01:48:13,293 --> 01:48:15,213
Speaker 24: more of the music, it really does sound like Frans

2079
01:48:15,293 --> 01:48:18,653
Speaker 24: Ferdinand's from the early two thousand, but not that song.

2080
01:48:19,653 --> 01:48:21,253
Speaker 24: But I think that's kind of good, Like there's sort

2081
01:48:21,253 --> 01:48:23,893
Speaker 24: of some stuff they're trying out and that electro rock

2082
01:48:23,973 --> 01:48:28,493
Speaker 24: dance thing. For some reason, lead singer Alex's voice, you know,

2083
01:48:28,533 --> 01:48:31,093
Speaker 24: it still sort of captures you in that weird, creepy

2084
01:48:31,173 --> 01:48:33,053
Speaker 24: kind of way in that song because of that lower

2085
01:48:33,053 --> 01:48:33,813
Speaker 24: tone that he's doing.

2086
01:48:33,893 --> 01:48:35,293
Speaker 11: So so that's there.

2087
01:48:35,453 --> 01:48:37,933
Speaker 24: There's that song, and then we'll jump into all the

2088
01:48:37,973 --> 01:48:41,013
Speaker 24: Franz Ferdinand normal kind of you know how they have

2089
01:48:41,053 --> 01:48:44,133
Speaker 24: those real catchy guitar riffs usually that start most of

2090
01:48:44,173 --> 01:48:48,053
Speaker 24: their song. Yeah, yeah, heaps of that funny kind of album.

2091
01:48:48,053 --> 01:48:51,213
Speaker 24: Because I was I was well into their debut self

2092
01:48:51,253 --> 01:48:57,053
Speaker 24: titled album, Yeah take Me Out, Yeah, all those all

2093
01:48:57,093 --> 01:48:57,533
Speaker 24: those songs.

2094
01:48:57,533 --> 01:48:58,293
Speaker 11: I was really into that.

2095
01:48:58,333 --> 01:49:01,013
Speaker 24: So this album, like you start it and the first

2096
01:49:01,053 --> 01:49:02,893
Speaker 24: song didn't kind of hit for me to start with

2097
01:49:03,093 --> 01:49:05,053
Speaker 24: us a little bit like, Oh, I don't know why,

2098
01:49:05,093 --> 01:49:07,093
Speaker 24: because it still has that guitar kind of thing, and

2099
01:49:07,133 --> 01:49:08,973
Speaker 24: I think I just happened to listen to something that's

2100
01:49:09,053 --> 01:49:11,773
Speaker 24: quite theatrical for a while, because there's still that about

2101
01:49:11,773 --> 01:49:16,053
Speaker 24: their music too. Every song has that grandiose theatrical like

2102
01:49:16,133 --> 01:49:19,693
Speaker 24: you're strutting yourself down the street, really something about life.

2103
01:49:19,733 --> 01:49:20,413
Speaker 11: So there's still that.

2104
01:49:20,893 --> 01:49:22,693
Speaker 24: There's probably a little bit more of that because it

2105
01:49:22,733 --> 01:49:25,293
Speaker 24: is obviously about all the fairs that we have in

2106
01:49:25,373 --> 01:49:28,893
Speaker 24: human existence, and there's a little bit more perhaps vulnerability,

2107
01:49:29,293 --> 01:49:32,413
Speaker 24: bit more rawness in some of the lyrics and some

2108
01:49:32,453 --> 01:49:34,893
Speaker 24: of the vocals from Alex, but I think it's still

2109
01:49:34,893 --> 01:49:37,013
Speaker 24: a lot of what you expect from these guys with

2110
01:49:38,213 --> 01:49:40,373
Speaker 24: those builds that they do. They sort of capture you

2111
01:49:40,453 --> 01:49:43,293
Speaker 24: with some sort of like cheeky riff first and then

2112
01:49:43,333 --> 01:49:45,253
Speaker 24: you're like, oh no, that's kind of got under my skin,

2113
01:49:45,293 --> 01:49:47,613
Speaker 24: and then you're sort of, you know, going into more

2114
01:49:47,613 --> 01:49:49,653
Speaker 24: of the music. Build it up, which is the tune

2115
01:49:49,653 --> 01:49:51,133
Speaker 24: you're going to play next. It has this kind of

2116
01:49:51,133 --> 01:49:54,373
Speaker 24: snazzy jazz. I think maybe there's a double.

2117
01:49:54,133 --> 01:49:56,453
Speaker 11: Bass in the background, but then you still mix.

2118
01:49:56,293 --> 01:49:58,213
Speaker 24: That in with what you know is the big guitar

2119
01:49:58,813 --> 01:50:01,693
Speaker 24: stuff from the Franz Ferdinand. There's a couple of tunes

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Speaker 24: too where actually the piano takes the lead, and those

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Speaker 24: are really good.

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Speaker 11: I think it's a good show.

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Speaker 24: Off that they can be quite musically diverse if they

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Speaker 24: want to be, but still with that constant forward I

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Speaker 24: always feel like when I listen to Frans Ferdinand that

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Speaker 24: I'm just going to be stomping through the day.

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Speaker 11: You know, that forward momentum kind of place that they

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Speaker 11: have about them, So that's still all existent there.

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Speaker 24: I also think it's really funny that this is an

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Speaker 24: album about all the different fears of human existence, and

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Speaker 24: then there's a track called cats. Are we all just

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Speaker 24: really terrified of cats? Maybe? But if you yals a

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Speaker 24: little deeper into the lyrics, which is what this album,

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Speaker 24: you kind of get hit sonically first by all the

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Speaker 24: music and production, and then a couple of listens and

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Speaker 24: you get more of the lyrics stuff. And Cats isn't

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Speaker 24: just about being scared of cats and the assassiness, but

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Speaker 24: also more that trying to.

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Speaker 11: Trying to keep your inner animal instincts right. Oh my god,

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Speaker 11: it leads straight into it's all starting to make sense

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Speaker 11: now today hates the catchy beats.

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Speaker 24: There's rhythms that will just you know, like, I think

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Speaker 24: there's a lot that's instantly recognizable because Alex uses more

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Speaker 24: of that's what you're you normally hear with Franz Ferdinand

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Speaker 24: and most of the album, so there's more of that

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Speaker 24: kind of stuff. And I do wonder if it is

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Speaker 24: an album that if you were a fan in the past,

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Speaker 24: this is probably one you're gonna really like.

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Speaker 2: Yeah right, yeah, I don't know if you.

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Speaker 24: Have to be a fan, but I think for it

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Speaker 24: to get under your skin, if you'd instantly be like,

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Speaker 24: oh yeah, I know those guys, you probably have to

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Speaker 24: have had some experience with with what it's about. Yeah,

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01:51:32,933 --> 01:51:35,773
Speaker 24: it's safe, nothing too out there, except for that dark

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01:51:35,853 --> 01:51:36,653
Speaker 24: hook song.

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Speaker 2: That was pretty out there. Was there was more out

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Speaker 2: there than I anticipated.

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Speaker 11: It's the most challenging, so I'm kind of glad that

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Speaker 11: we've led in with Yeah.

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Speaker 2: It's good. Yeah you can.

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Speaker 24: Go into sort of like some of this stuff is

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01:51:46,493 --> 01:51:50,013
Speaker 24: quite pretty, but it's also just that indie, catchy guitar

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01:51:50,213 --> 01:51:52,813
Speaker 24: band stuff, you know, So you'll definitely get to hear

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Speaker 24: more of that and I think that's the stuff that

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Speaker 24: will feel more familiar for those who have been fans.

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Speaker 2: It's good. Look, we don't want to stifle creativity, do we.

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Speaker 24: Even again, they haven't gone too far, if you know

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Speaker 24: what I mean. It's like they try a little bit there,

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Speaker 24: but you're not.

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Speaker 2: Everything else is a bit more familiar.

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Speaker 9: Yeah.

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01:52:08,093 --> 01:52:09,293
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's good.

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Speaker 11: That's a good place.

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Speaker 2: That's exactly. It's a nice kind of medium, isn't it. Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

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01:52:13,773 --> 01:52:16,053
Speaker 2: something for the fans, something a bit new as well. Okay,

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01:52:16,213 --> 01:52:18,173
Speaker 2: what did you give the human fear?

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Speaker 24: Okay, I'm going to give it a seven out of ten?

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Speaker 2: Nice?

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Speaker 24: Okay, sit with you for a bitch, get through some

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01:52:22,973 --> 01:52:23,133
Speaker 24: of that.

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01:52:23,333 --> 01:52:26,013
Speaker 2: Yes, maybe not a first first time listen one as

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Speaker 2: well alone. It takes a little bit of time just

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01:52:27,613 --> 01:52:28,133
Speaker 2: to kind of grow.

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Speaker 9: Yeah.

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01:52:28,453 --> 01:52:29,413
Speaker 11: Maybe that's okay too.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, very good. All right, we'll have more of a listen.

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Speaker 2: We'll listen to the one with the jazzy bit you reckon.

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Speaker 2: That's the jazzy bit one. We'll pick that out and

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Speaker 2: play next to your cold Very good. Thanks to Steale

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Speaker 2: catching next week a Stale Cliff at our music reviewer.

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Speaker 2: There's seven out of ten for the Human Fear from

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Speaker 2: Frans Ferdinand. We'll have a bit more of a listen

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Speaker 2: in a couple of minutes. Right now, it is eight

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Speaker 2: to twelve.

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Speaker 1: A cracking way to start your Saturday Saturday mornings with

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Speaker 1: Jack Day and vpure.

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Speaker 3: Dot co dot in for high quality supplements, news talks.

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Speaker 2: You know what, I've really missed our Saturday mornings together.

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Speaker 2: It's funny though, you have the first Saturday morning back

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Speaker 2: and it just races by, absolutely flies by. So thank

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Speaker 2: you very much for your text and emails throughout the morning.

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Speaker 2: searching Jack Tame. I put a few photos up there

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Speaker 2: want to check it out as well. If you fancy

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Speaker 2: a bit of solitude from time to time, might give

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Speaker 2: you a few ideas. Thanks to my wonderful producer Carri

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Speaker 2: for doing the tough stuff today. Jason Pine's gonna take

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Speaker 2: you through the afternoon with weekend sport. For now, though,

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Speaker 2: we will leave you with Franz Ferdinand. Their new album

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Speaker 2: is The Human Fear. This is build it up, strength to.

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Speaker 7: Strength.

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Speaker 3: I'm not gonna run.

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Speaker 17: Shame.

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Speaker 13: How can we talk.

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Speaker 20: About our defensus and we don't talk, don't.

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Speaker 13: Talk at all.

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Speaker 2: Listen to the end.

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Speaker 13: Come off the hunger of my silences. Off to the sound.

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Speaker 8: I'll be chest the strange.

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01:54:32,933 --> 01:54:35,533
Speaker 13: Do hold a gun in the strange.

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Speaker 7: I'm not gonna run.

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Speaker 13: Build it up, build it up. You gotta you gotta

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Speaker 13: get set up. You wanna take some, fix it up.

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01:54:44,733 --> 01:54:48,493
Speaker 13: You gotta fix something. You gotta open up, you gotta share,

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Speaker 13: build it up up and say you gotta get so

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01:54:53,213 --> 01:54:57,173
Speaker 13: take so pull it on down a bunting. You gotta

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Speaker 13: open up.

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Speaker 17: You got it.

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Speaker 9: And build it up up.

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01:55:04,533 --> 01:55:08,693
Speaker 2: I'm gonna build it up.

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Speaker 13: Build it up.

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Speaker 2: You come on, pull it up, feeling up with me.

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Speaker 4: You gotta give some take so fix it up and

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Speaker 4: brick some.

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Speaker 13: You gotta open up, you gotta share, build it up.

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Speaker 13: Nothing is better. Come on, bring some shake so pull

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Speaker 13: it out down. But no, you gotta open enough. You

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01:55:49,413 --> 01:55:53,733
Speaker 13: gotta can build it up and nothing that. You gotta

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01:55:53,813 --> 01:55:58,013
Speaker 13: get some take some, mix it up. You gotta bring

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01:55:58,093 --> 01:56:02,533
Speaker 13: some you gotta hope enough, you gotta share, build it up,

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Speaker 13: and nothing is said.

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01:56:04,413 --> 01:56:04,853
Speaker 5: Breck, some.

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Speaker 13: Gott it open up. You gotta build it up.

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