1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,440 Speaker 1: The number of criminal charges against children and teenagers has 2 00:00:03,480 --> 00:00:06,680 Speaker 1: spiked in the last year, Theft, robbery, burglary all seeing 3 00:00:06,680 --> 00:00:09,920 Speaker 1: the biggest increases. According to data from the Ministry of Justice, 4 00:00:09,920 --> 00:00:13,400 Speaker 1: there were more than five thousand theft charges against those 5 00:00:13,520 --> 00:00:17,480 Speaker 1: aged ten to seventeen, which is a forty one percent 6 00:00:17,520 --> 00:00:20,239 Speaker 1: increase compared to the previous year. However, the number of 7 00:00:20,239 --> 00:00:23,479 Speaker 1: young people charged hasn't gone up nearly as steeply, meaning 8 00:00:23,520 --> 00:00:27,520 Speaker 1: that young offenders are on average committing more crimes per person. 9 00:00:27,960 --> 00:00:30,640 Speaker 1: Aaron Hendry is a youth development worker, is with us 10 00:00:30,640 --> 00:00:34,599 Speaker 1: this morning. Hey Aaron heanyk good, Don Matte good, thank you, 11 00:00:34,640 --> 00:00:38,720 Speaker 1: thanks for being with me this morning. Does this mean 12 00:00:38,760 --> 00:00:44,200 Speaker 1: that we've got more hardcore young criminals, young offenders? 13 00:00:44,520 --> 00:00:46,839 Speaker 2: I think what's really important to look at there is 14 00:00:47,159 --> 00:00:49,280 Speaker 2: one of those increase in the data is theft. Right, 15 00:00:49,920 --> 00:00:52,640 Speaker 2: one of the key drivers of youth crime is poverty 16 00:00:52,680 --> 00:00:54,880 Speaker 2: and in equality. A lot of the policies that we've 17 00:00:54,880 --> 00:00:57,360 Speaker 2: seen go out just recently accreting the environment where these 18 00:00:57,360 --> 00:00:59,360 Speaker 2: sort of crimes would increase. You know, we're seeing more 19 00:00:59,400 --> 00:01:01,880 Speaker 2: young people push and the hardshet pushed into poverty, pushed 20 00:01:01,920 --> 00:01:05,039 Speaker 2: and the homelessness and so it's not really surprising to 21 00:01:05,040 --> 00:01:05,760 Speaker 2: see this data. 22 00:01:06,560 --> 00:01:10,679 Speaker 1: Are they stealing bread or are they stealing jewelry, vapes 23 00:01:10,720 --> 00:01:11,480 Speaker 1: and booze. 24 00:01:12,920 --> 00:01:15,319 Speaker 2: It's often a matter of survival, right, So the product 25 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:18,720 Speaker 2: isn't necessarily what we focus on. It's actually the reason 26 00:01:18,720 --> 00:01:21,640 Speaker 2: why they're doing it, right, So that theft is often 27 00:01:21,760 --> 00:01:24,840 Speaker 2: very much connected to needing to get by, about being 28 00:01:24,880 --> 00:01:27,440 Speaker 2: pushed into environments where they're desperate and they see this 29 00:01:27,520 --> 00:01:28,479 Speaker 2: is the only way out. 30 00:01:28,720 --> 00:01:31,199 Speaker 1: But if you're stealing vapes, I mean, you don't need 31 00:01:31,240 --> 00:01:32,840 Speaker 1: that for survival. 32 00:01:33,120 --> 00:01:38,920 Speaker 2: Do you. Yeah, Look, I mean in terms of vapes 33 00:01:39,600 --> 00:01:42,759 Speaker 2: specific products. You know, at times it's und sulling. It's 34 00:01:42,840 --> 00:01:46,240 Speaker 2: times it's because you're working. You know, for every gang 35 00:01:46,319 --> 00:01:50,800 Speaker 2: or a community, the bigger issue is the reason why 36 00:01:50,800 --> 00:01:53,040 Speaker 2: those young people and those children are in their environment 37 00:01:53,120 --> 00:01:54,720 Speaker 2: in the first place. And what we know is the 38 00:01:54,720 --> 00:01:56,600 Speaker 2: context for a lot of these young people is they're 39 00:01:56,600 --> 00:01:59,360 Speaker 2: coming from homes where there's a lot of poverty, where 40 00:01:59,400 --> 00:02:01,320 Speaker 2: this housing is security. Some of these young people are 41 00:02:01,320 --> 00:02:04,440 Speaker 2: experiencing homelessness, and that is the key driving factor is 42 00:02:04,520 --> 00:02:07,000 Speaker 2: why they're involved in this behavior in the first place. 43 00:02:07,080 --> 00:02:10,600 Speaker 1: The cops did a big common Chero's announcement yesterday going 44 00:02:10,639 --> 00:02:14,760 Speaker 1: after that gang that we've somewhat imported from Australia. Do 45 00:02:14,800 --> 00:02:18,640 Speaker 1: you think that that will solve our problems? You know, 46 00:02:18,680 --> 00:02:21,440 Speaker 1: because obviously there's young people out there who are at 47 00:02:21,480 --> 00:02:24,920 Speaker 1: a loose end. We don't want them joining gangs. Do 48 00:02:25,000 --> 00:02:26,919 Speaker 1: you think this is going to make a difference. 49 00:02:27,919 --> 00:02:31,160 Speaker 2: I think if we are really serious about seeing some 50 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:33,520 Speaker 2: change in this area, then we need to really grasp 51 00:02:33,840 --> 00:02:37,240 Speaker 2: with what evidence is right and what we know about 52 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:39,960 Speaker 2: how we reduce you crime is we focus very much 53 00:02:39,960 --> 00:02:41,440 Speaker 2: on what is going on in the environment of those 54 00:02:41,480 --> 00:02:43,120 Speaker 2: young people, and so a lot of the young people 55 00:02:43,160 --> 00:02:45,400 Speaker 2: that we know that are coming through the justice system, 56 00:02:45,400 --> 00:02:47,959 Speaker 2: they're coming from homes where there's extreme poverty, there's inequality, 57 00:02:48,040 --> 00:02:52,880 Speaker 2: there's homelessness, there's a lot of mental health trauma, addiction disabilities, 58 00:02:52,919 --> 00:02:55,400 Speaker 2: and there's a real lack in our services in our 59 00:02:55,400 --> 00:02:57,640 Speaker 2: community to respond to that. What we've seen over the 60 00:02:57,680 --> 00:03:01,720 Speaker 2: last six eight months as services being shut down across 61 00:03:01,760 --> 00:03:04,640 Speaker 2: the country, those early intervention services we really need in 62 00:03:04,680 --> 00:03:07,200 Speaker 2: our communities. We have to respond to this stuff. They 63 00:03:07,200 --> 00:03:11,000 Speaker 2: were already under pressure before the government's decisions, they're under 64 00:03:11,040 --> 00:03:13,239 Speaker 2: more pressure now. What we've seen in the justices and 65 00:03:13,360 --> 00:03:15,160 Speaker 2: making it harder to get benefits, to be able to 66 00:03:15,480 --> 00:03:18,720 Speaker 2: get shelter through emergency accommodation that increases their environment where 67 00:03:18,720 --> 00:03:21,000 Speaker 2: people are more desperate, and we would see these sort 68 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:21,560 Speaker 2: of things occur. 69 00:03:21,800 --> 00:03:23,400 Speaker 1: All right, Aaron, thank you very much for your time 70 00:03:23,400 --> 00:03:25,320 Speaker 1: this morning. Really appreciate you coming on the show. 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