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Speaker 4: The sport huddled tonight, Ross Carl hosted skies out there

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Speaker 4: to a rugby pod and Darcy is in the studio.

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Speaker 4: Good evening, lads, name cut up. Good to have you both, Ross.

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Speaker 4: So what do you reckon it's going to happen tomorrow afternoon?

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Speaker 4: I mean, it's fascinating that No, none of the current

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Speaker 4: lot there. We're even alive the last time the Wallaby's

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Speaker 4: won at Eden Park. But that doesn't necessarily mean it

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Speaker 4: won't happen tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: No. Look, there's always a chance that the Wallabies can

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Speaker 2: get up, but without two of their keyboard runners, without

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Speaker 2: Will Skelton, who's massive for them up front, with Rob Valentino,

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Speaker 2: who's one of the best forwards in zuper rugby, those

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Speaker 2: guys are so important to getting them over the game line.

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Speaker 2: And without those guys smashing over the game line, I

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Speaker 2: just don't see how they beat the All Blacks. I

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Speaker 2: just don't see it happening, especially an All Blacks team

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Speaker 2: with the kind of motivation and All Backs coach with

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Speaker 2: the kind of motivation they've got. Right now, when I've

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Speaker 2: been to the games where the All Blacks have been smoked,

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Speaker 2: I'm thinking Ireland in twenty sixteen, and then when the

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Speaker 2: All Blacks turn up to Island the way that they

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Speaker 2: went out with the ferocity and smoked Island and Ireland

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Speaker 2: after that, I just can't see Australia being able to

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Speaker 3: Can they be over stimulated ross appreciate? I know that's right.

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Speaker 3: I want to prove too match and go too hard

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Speaker 3: and suddenly on no, it's happening again.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there is something to that. I think the key

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Speaker 2: for them is making sure that they nail that first

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Speaker 2: there up at halftime. But if you look through the

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Speaker 2: Rugby Championship and you look at when the points have

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Speaker 2: been scored, the Wallabies have scored nine tries in the

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Speaker 2: last twenty minutes of games and the All Blacks have

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Speaker 2: scored bugger all. I think you just don't do well

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Speaker 2: in the second half at all. They do well in

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Speaker 2: the first half. So that's why having Patrick Tuopolotu back

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Speaker 2: so important. That's why having a player like Cody Taylor

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Speaker 2: second half is so important. The All Blacks bench has

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Speaker 2: not been effective and now they've got two of their

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Speaker 2: in the way that his sniping can bring defenders in

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Speaker 2: he just go through the middle himself. I think those

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Speaker 4: And with sam VIA's captain of course, Hey what about Tarsi.

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Speaker 4: Joe Schmidt said that the giving a crack it's got

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Speaker 4: this is what everybody look, this is what everyone tells me. Okay,

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Speaker 4: they say it's time to get rid of it. Joe

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Speaker 4: Schmidt has said that Bleddersow Cup means more than the

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Speaker 4: Rugby Championship to that to the All Blacks. Do you

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Speaker 3: I'm not sure what means what to the All Blacks,

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Speaker 3: and they just want victory more than anything else. That

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Speaker 2: Yeah, close on a couple of minor trophies here and there,

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Speaker 2: But I don't think that that's important this week. I

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Speaker 2: it's about pride. Really, it's about being embarrassed and stepping

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Speaker 3: It'll be nice if they competed. It's supposed to just

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Speaker 4: You're right about their shame thing, though they should have

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Speaker 4: and Goalriz the way they probably felt the last two weeks.

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Speaker 4: Ross Carl and Darcy Waldergrave on the sports Huddle tonight,

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Speaker 4: the Silver Ferns got the tiny Jemison Trophy, which is great.

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Speaker 4: Unfortunately it wasn't with Dame Knowles a bit of fighting

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Speaker 4: spirit do you reckon in the In the midst of

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Speaker 3: Had to focus it on something they had nothing else.

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Speaker 3: It's been chaos the last few months. I'd say, not

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Speaker 3: it's more of a relief than anything else, and you

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Speaker 3: an incredible job to come in and do what she's

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Speaker 2: She is an impressive person, isn't she. I mean, she

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Speaker 2: that she's just set up a really impressive feed at

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Speaker 2: Is you know? That's old school stuff, isn't it. But

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Speaker 2: I did see that Briani Ackle the Aussie coach thing

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Speaker 2: wonder have we gone too far? You know? Can you

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Speaker 4: To do without us, but back from what because we

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Speaker 4: don't really know do we the detail on exactly what

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Speaker 3: Happens in a vacuum?

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Speaker 2: Ryan, Yeah, when your players and your coaches aren't getting

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Speaker 3: Are loss That was just a couple of bad eggs?

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Speaker 3: what the media does, right.

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Speaker 2: One hundred percent. But boy, I mean that is some

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Speaker 2: drastic action if it was only a small thing, exactly.

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Speaker 2: You just you've got to move forward. You can't move back.

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Speaker 2: Surely they've got to find a new coach and carry

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Speaker 3: On full on coaching. Woman, and she ain't take this

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Speaker 3: and yes to go all right, here we go again.

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Speaker 2: Look, I'm with you having met her. She's so impressive

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Speaker 2: and she has so much respect from so many players.

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Speaker 2: When push comes to shot, relationships of what you've got

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Speaker 2: you know, if the relationships are fractured and friends have

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Speaker 2: some point you've got to cut ties and start a frond.

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Speaker 4: Hey, the black ferns. So they're playing for third at

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Speaker 4: the Rugby World Cup, more third and fourth? And are

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Speaker 2: Dussie?

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Speaker 3: This is the game that nobody wants to play, really,

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Speaker 3: the disappointment of losing in a semi final. You get

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Speaker 3: England for another week and play a game of rugby

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Speaker 3: for what bronze medal?

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Speaker 4: For the love of the game.

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Speaker 3: Ah, Right's right, the love of the game. There'll be

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Speaker 3: a bit of naval gazing with the site if anything, though,

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Speaker 3: Ross George Mello is gonna come back and have a

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Speaker 3: it's real. It's a real leapdown, isn't it. It's like

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think there's plenty to play for here though.

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Speaker 2: You know they don't have an impressive record against France.

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Speaker 2: There's lost five of the last seven against France. They

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Speaker 2: France should have beaten them in that semi final. They

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Speaker 3: I don't do it, Ross, do not blame that. No,

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Speaker 3: don't blame the reef. You can't do it.

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Speaker 2: Don't blame the Ref'm going to I'm not going to

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Speaker 2: blame the ref completely. But under this the Black Further

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Speaker 2: played eleven games under that ref and lost five of them.

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Speaker 2: So they headed into that game knowing that they struggle

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Speaker 2: and while their discipline was terrible, I've never seen a

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Speaker 2: first minute of the second half, it really didn't help

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Speaker 4: I was going to say, there's enough of this. This

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Speaker 4: is getting a bit sad playing for third and fourth.

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Speaker 4: Let's about Ben Taylor and Oliver Welch. This is an

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Speaker 4: amazing result for them, only their first year of being

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Speaker 4: in a partnership together and won the World Champs. Starts.

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Speaker 3: See, it's madness. No one saw this coming. I think

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Speaker 3: how are you? What's your home again?

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Speaker 2: Ah?

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Speaker 3: Defense? Everyone of a world in this both they beat

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Speaker 3: It's astonishing. This this is maybe the start of another

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Speaker 4: Yeah that's what it feels like.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well you think old Bond back in the day

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Speaker 3: with his mate, and what they managed to achieve was

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Speaker 3: how long did they go for unbeaten sixty nine different

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Speaker 3: races ross.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there was a lot. I think the six world

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Speaker 2: titles and two gold medals, right, they were something superblic.

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Speaker 2: I don't know enough about going backwards in a boat

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Speaker 2: to tell you whether these guys are going to be

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Speaker 2: the next big thing. But you win world championships at

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Speaker 2: age group level and then you step up and you

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Speaker 2: win world championships at the top level. Cheesy maker Mark

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Speaker 2: really quickly won a World Cup too. It's pretty clear

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Speaker 2: they've got something there and without putting you know who

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Speaker 2: do on them. Look, they've got a big future.

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Speaker 4: I mean you look at this, so you look at rowing.

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Speaker 4: I mean, look at us at the athletics.

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Speaker 2: Dr C.

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Speaker 4: We just forget about rugby for now, can't we.

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Speaker 3: I think the focus on alternate sports in all seriousness

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Speaker 3: it is growing. And when you look at what's happened

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Speaker 3: in World athletics, this is a sport where sort of

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Speaker 3: getting in the wrong place with a javelin throw at

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Speaker 3: the shop, but you're not going to get badly damaged.

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Speaker 3: I think a lot of kids are now looking at this,

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Speaker 3: and parents are looking at this, going, hey, you can

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Speaker 3: actually travel globally, we can win world championships. We've got

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Speaker 3: proof right there. I'll be surprised that this really surges

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Speaker 3: in the next decade as far as competition and participation

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Speaker 3: goes as well. But yeah, coming close to Bond and

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Speaker 3: Murray for those two guys, good luck. They absolute freaks,

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Speaker 3: those two. But hey, never say never. And I don't

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Speaker 3: know a lot about going backwards in a boat, but

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Speaker 3: what I do know is they had one or each right,

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Speaker 3: that's what happens in that, and you go the other one.

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Speaker 3: They have two wars each doubles peirs.

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Speaker 2: Got it?

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Speaker 3: Do you even care?

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Speaker 2: Darcy?

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Speaker 4: Thank you for that contribution. Darcy Waldegrave and Ross Carl

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Speaker 4: on the sports title tonight, Cheers team It is seven

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Speaker 4: to a Goo, the AB's seven Away from six.

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