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Speaker 1: Shortland Street is saved. You'll be able to listen to

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Speaker 1: this a little bit more. It's been announced the show

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Speaker 1: is back next year, saved yet again by taxpayers. Yep,

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Speaker 1: we're stumping out our cash, this time two point five

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Speaker 1: million dollars from New Zealand on Air. Now. Cam Harland

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Speaker 1: is the CEO of NZ on air, High Camp.

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Speaker 2: How are you. Heare lovely to speak to you again.

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Speaker 1: It's great to talk to you, and especially in these

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Speaker 1: you know, in the in these circumstances, this is obviously

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Speaker 1: great news. But what's happened here tough negotiation or something.

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Speaker 2: I wouldn't say a tough negotiation in all honesty, I

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Speaker 2: guess on the one side, it's a little disappointing that

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Speaker 2: Shortland Street hasn't yet got to a point where it's

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Speaker 2: back to being commercially sustainable. I think, as you know,

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Speaker 2: we funded it last year and we were hoping that

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Speaker 2: that would be a transitional period for TVNZ and SPP

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Speaker 2: to kind of work out how they might get the

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Speaker 2: show back to a sort of a commercially sustainable footing.

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Speaker 2: The truth of the matter is the you know, the

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Speaker 2: economic environment for ad funded media has not got any

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Speaker 2: better and so we saw Shortland Street come back into

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Speaker 2: the most recent round and we have we have agreed

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Speaker 2: to fund it for two and a half mil.

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Speaker 1: Okay, do you think that what is going on with

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Speaker 1: Shorty Street is are they a victim of what's going

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Speaker 1: on with media in general or is the Shortland Street

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Speaker 1: problem that will never be fixed.

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Speaker 2: To be honest with you, I think it's the former.

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Speaker 2: What we're seeing with Shortland Street is definitely audiences engaging

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Speaker 2: with it. It's still a very very popular show. What

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Speaker 2: we're seeing is increasing numbers of especially young people, which

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Speaker 2: is a hard to reach audience for us. So that's

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Speaker 2: another reason why it stacks up as far as our

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Speaker 2: funds are concerned. They are engaging with it on demand.

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Speaker 2: And what we're seeing with most of the media companies

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Speaker 2: out there is that their linear their linear broadcast or there.

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Speaker 2: You know, in the case of newspapers, it's the print

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Speaker 2: is where most of the money is. The digital space

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Speaker 2: is where the audiences are moving to, but are sort

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Speaker 2: of trying to catch up in terms of monetizing those audiences. Yep.

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Speaker 1: So basically you would expect that once TVNZ figures out

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Speaker 1: how to get money out of audiences for going online.

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Speaker 1: This should be okay and they shouldn't need any more

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Speaker 1: of your money.

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Speaker 2: That is absolutely the hope. As I say, though, I

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Speaker 2: mean the reality is this show for us does stack up.

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Speaker 2: It delivers a really significant, meaningful audience, and it delivers

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Speaker 2: on a sort of a cultural element as well. It

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Speaker 2: does reflect the evolving faces of modern New Zealand and

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Speaker 2: that's kind of what we're here for. But an answer

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Speaker 2: to your question, I think TVNZ and SPP would both

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Speaker 2: say that they are also hoping that they can work

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Speaker 2: out a way to get the show back to being

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Speaker 2: commercially sustainable.

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Speaker 1: I think we all are and stop costing us money.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, Cam appreciated. Cam Harland ends it on air CEO.

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