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Speaker 1: The only drive show you can trust to ask the question,

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Speaker 1: We get the answers, find a fat sack and give

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Speaker 1: the analysis. Heather Duplicy Ellen, Drive with One New Zealand

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Speaker 1: and the power of satellite mobile news dogs.

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Speaker 2: They'd be.

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Speaker 3: Afternoon, Welcome to the show. Coming up today, We're going

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Speaker 3: to have a chat to a royal commentator after five

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Speaker 3: to see how big Andrew's arrest really is. The Police

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Speaker 3: Association on news that more than half of our police

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Speaker 3: want to quit the force and should English be an

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Speaker 3: official language in this country or not?

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Speaker 2: Heather Duplicy Allen, Well, let's not.

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Speaker 3: Beat around the bush. The biggest news in the world

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Speaker 3: right now is the arrest overnight our time of Andrew,

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Speaker 3: the brother of the King. It is huge, not least

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Speaker 3: because the last time that a royal was arrested was

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Speaker 3: three hundred and fifty years ago when Charles the First

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Speaker 3: was taken prisoner and then beheaded, but also because Andrew wasn't,

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Speaker 3: like in most cases involving celebrities, asked to come into

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Speaker 3: the police station and help them out with an inquiry.

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Speaker 3: He was arrested at his house, which then police searched

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Speaker 3: for more evidence. There is a massive distinction between the two.

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Speaker 3: I would say though, that anyone predicting the collapse of

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Speaker 3: the Royal family, or to the contrary, the survival of

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Speaker 3: the Royal family today are being premature, and there is

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Speaker 3: a lot of that going on. The charge that Andrew faces,

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Speaker 3: which is misconduct and public office, is apparently very hard

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Speaker 3: to prove in the UK because of the way that

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Speaker 3: going completely just nowhere. Really so far, I would say

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Speaker 3: Charles has handled the news and the scandal leading up

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Speaker 3: to today's news much more decisively than even the late

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Speaker 3: and I think, most importantly, the most important people in

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Speaker 3: seem far enough removed from anything Andrew might have done

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Speaker 3: to be safe. On the other hand, what's happened today

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Speaker 3: has a long way to go. This is just the start.

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Speaker 3: Next may come some charges, maybe then a prosecution, maybe

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Speaker 3: then a judge in a jury. If that happens, then

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Speaker 3: the risks to the Royal family ramp up massively because

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Speaker 3: of what may be discovered about who knew what about

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Speaker 3: his behavior. For how many years? But if you're looking

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Speaker 3: for some good news and what has happened today, it's

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Speaker 3: that it's proved that the system works. No one is

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Speaker 2: Heather Duplessy Allen.

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Speaker 3: and I'll give you some more details about how this

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Speaker 3: all played out today. Now the SPCA is calling for

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Speaker 3: serious reform to the Dog Control Act. This, of course

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Speaker 3: mauled to death by three dogs in a house. The

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Speaker 3: thirty year old piece of legislation, the Dog Control Act,

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Speaker 3: currently carries a maximum sentence of three years in prison

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Speaker 3: from where was.

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Speaker 4: It Simon Paris at the International Energy Agency, saw the

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Speaker 4: energy ministers from around the world for Heather, good to

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Speaker 3: Yeah, thanks, thanks for making this time and you probably

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Speaker 4: So I've sought submergent advice following what was a tragic

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Speaker 4: You know, it's got some criminality powers, it has fines

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Speaker 4: and enforcement and actually having a review of it. Some

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Speaker 4: like getting fined if you're not carrying a leash in

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Speaker 4: public with your dog. But I think part of the

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Speaker 4: which is a local government and council's responsibility. I'm getting

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Speaker 3: Okay, why are there Roman dogs in Northland?

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Speaker 4: Well, I mean, I think my understanding is is, you know,

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Speaker 3: Explain to me. Is it a problem with legislation or

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Speaker 4: Well, when you look at the Dog Control Act, there

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Speaker 5: They can.

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Speaker 3: They can actually if they see a roaming dog, they

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Speaker 4: Basically, if it's not wearing its tag, it's classified, is unregistered,

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Speaker 4: and if it's unregistered then the law applies.

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Speaker 4: I mean that's the challenges. Why are they not wearing

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Speaker 3: Okay, so say they, So, what happened in this instance,

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Speaker 3: if I remember correctly, may have attacked another dog. Now,

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Speaker 4: Yes, I haven't got the facts of this exact case,

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Speaker 3: For the purposes of the argument that story that I

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Speaker 4: Well, dog control officers do have the power to, for example,

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Speaker 4: So that's a you know, first would be an instance

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Speaker 4: So you know, I think there is an obligation here

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Speaker 4: And you know what I'm doing, It's going to take

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Speaker 3: Coming to a conclusion that this is an attitude and

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Speaker 3: not just counsels. But I wonder, actually, simon, if we

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Speaker 3: If they see dogs roaming around, they just need to

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Speaker 4: I'm with you. I think, you know, people just need

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Speaker 4: you know pretty much have a zero tolerance of poor behavior.

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Speaker 4: And the challenge with dogs is one instance of poor

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Speaker 2: Me test you.

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Speaker 3: Let me test you on this if I said to you,

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Speaker 3: if I said to you that I am totally up

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Speaker 4: Well, I grew up on a farm, Heather, so I

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Speaker 3: Okay, Simon, thank you very much. I appreciate your time

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Speaker 3: and hope you catch up on the jet lag that

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Speaker 3: is Simon Wat's the local government minister. You might have

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Speaker 3: Heather. What often happens in Kai Who? This is up

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Speaker 3: north where the lady was killed by the dogs. What

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Speaker 3: Hello Heather, Okay, so do you think that the Highlanders

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Speaker 6: I reckon they might. I reckon they Well, no one

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Speaker 6: thought they'd beat the Crusaders last week. I'm pretty sure

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Speaker 6: I said to you there were no chance when we spoke.

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Speaker 6: Not that that's a very high bar in terms of

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Speaker 6: my history of predictions, but I think most people thought

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Speaker 6: the Crusaders would go there last Friday and beat the Highlanders. Instead,

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Speaker 6: it was the Highlanders who won twenty five twenty three.

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Speaker 6: So if they beat the defending champions, why couldn't they

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Speaker 6: tomorrow night beat last year's beaten Grand finalists, the Chiefs.

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Speaker 6: They haven't changed their team much, Jamie Joseph is stuck

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Speaker 6: with pretty much the same team. The Chiefs got home

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Speaker 10: It is absolutely wrong.

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Speaker 3: There is a survey that's come through from the Police Association,

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Speaker 3: Andrew mount Batten Windsor has been released from police custody

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Speaker 3: And finally, two men in Grand Rapids, Michigan, have played

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Speaker 3: A US correspondence with US Hello Dan, Hello Heather. Ten

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Speaker 3: ra IF basis for strikes on a run, and that

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Speaker 3: is why he's having such a crack at the Brits

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Speaker 3: of the Chagos Islands, go Someway to explain him piping

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Speaker 3: up about that.

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Speaker 2: The whole time, doesn't it Okay, yes it is, yes.

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Speaker 18: It is.

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Speaker 3: Now what's going on with the ballroom project?

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Speaker 5: Well, the appointees met today. This was the US Commission

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Speaker 5: of Fine Arts, and it's a panel that's made up

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Speaker 5: of all of President Trumb's appointees, so no surprise, they said, okay,

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Speaker 5: we approved this.

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Speaker 2: We approve this ballroom that is going to be built.

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Speaker 5: That's larger than the White House itself, and that's where

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Speaker 5: the East Wing head once stood. And the project's going

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Speaker 5: to be subject to some more talks by the National

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Speaker 5: Capital Planning Commission in March. But you know, this meeting

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Speaker 5: was supposed to be just on the design and the

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Speaker 5: final vote wasn't expected sometime next month. But they said,

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Speaker 5: you know what, let's make a vote on this today,

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Speaker 5: and six of the seven commissioners all agreed on this.

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Speaker 5: There's still you know, lawsuits over this with the National

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Speaker 5: Trust and they're saying, you know, they're trying to halt

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Speaker 5: construction of this ballroom and that's pending, but you know

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Speaker 5: the damage has been done already. The East Wing has

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Speaker 5: been knocked down and they're still moving ahead with this.

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Speaker 19: Dan.

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Speaker 3: What's going on with the tourism downturn in Las Vegas.

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Speaker 5: Well, as it turns out, we did a little digging here,

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Speaker 5: and it turns out that Las Vegas is very popular

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Speaker 5: for New Zealand's It's a popular destination. It's kind of

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Speaker 5: like this gateway city for those who are driving along

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Speaker 5: the West coast or across country. But Vegas has had

470
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Speaker 5: this downfall seven or eight percent downfall in tourism lately.

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Speaker 5: People are spending less money and the problem is Vegas

472
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Speaker 5: isn't a deal anymore. I mean, you're paying ten bucks

473
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Speaker 5: for a bottle of water, burgers or thirty dollars. About

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Speaker 5: the only thing you can find deals on still are

475
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Speaker 5: some hotels and concerts, which is why you know, my

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Speaker 5: wife and I we fly out there as often as

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Speaker 5: we can because there are so many big names that

478
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Speaker 5: are doing residencies these days. So now maybe a good

479
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Speaker 5: time to take that vacation. Even putting off because the

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Speaker 5: hotels are giving travelers free money to spend hotel credits

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Speaker 5: when they book a room. They're looking for any way

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Speaker 5: they can do to attract especially international tourism over there.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, well that's a good tip. What's the next

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Speaker 3: show that you're seeing?

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Speaker 5: We are going to go see A one two punch

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Speaker 5: I say, We're going to see Kenny Chesney at this

487
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Speaker 5: sphere in July, and then the next night I'm going,

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Speaker 5: because my wife won't go with me again, to see

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Speaker 5: Barry Manilow.

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Speaker 3: How many times have you seen Barry men alone?

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Speaker 11: Now?

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Speaker 5: It will be three times I think in the last year.

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Speaker 3: Dude, what's up with you? Haven't you miss him on

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Speaker 3: both previous occasions.

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Speaker 2: A couple of times.

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Speaker 5: But you know, I'm trying to you know, Expand Journeys

497
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Speaker 5: going through their final tour this year, so we're going

498
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Speaker 5: to go see them, and I'm you know, I'm trying

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Speaker 5: to catch up with some of the newer Bruno Mars.

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Speaker 5: We're gonna go see Brunel Mars later this year too.

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Speaker 3: So everything is sounding a lot cooler than Barry Manilo.

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Speaker 3: I mean, imagine being imagine being Barry Manilow's here.

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Speaker 11: It is.

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Speaker 3: It's pretty good though, but imagine it's not cool.

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Speaker 1: Dan.

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Speaker 3: Are you kids and.

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Speaker 2: Barrats Wall Oh many?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think they are all right. Thanks, Thanks Dan.

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Speaker 5: Thanks for putting up with me.

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Speaker 2: I love you for that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, no, we love you too, Dan Mitchinson, US correspondent. Actually,

512
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Speaker 3: and so I reckon you should go top of the

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Speaker 3: hour with a little bit of what do you reckon

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Speaker 3: but a Barry up top top of the hour.

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Speaker 2: We'll do it.

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Speaker 3: Ah, we'll play Barry after Barry, she says, lame like

517
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Speaker 3: if you're embarrassed by your parents, at least they're not

518
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Speaker 3: going to see Barry manilo and meet him three times

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Speaker 3: in a row anyway, eighteen away from five together for Llen.

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Speaker 3: So this is how it played out around the arrest

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Speaker 3: of Andrew. Apparently so apparently senior offices around the country

522
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Speaker 3: had no this is in the UK, had no idea

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Speaker 3: that this was happening. It was being really tightly guarded

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Speaker 3: as a secret by the Thames Valley Police, who were

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Speaker 3: the force that carried out the raid, carried out the

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Speaker 3: arrest and then the search of Andrew mount Batten Windsor's house.

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Speaker 3: Only senior officers in that particular police force knew what

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Speaker 3: they were doing. They'd been planning the operation for a

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Speaker 3: few days. They'd managed to apply for a search warrant,

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Speaker 3: which they obviously had to do secretly. They had to

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Speaker 3: persuade a magistrate or a district judge that it was

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Speaker 3: necessary to go in and search his houses. So they

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Speaker 3: got that. Then after they got that, they had to

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Speaker 3: plan the raid and the arrest. They had to keep

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Speaker 3: it all a secret the whole way through. They had

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Speaker 3: about twenty officers involved with it. Overnight our time. These

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Speaker 3: officers started out at Oxfordshire, had to drive three hours.

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Speaker 3: Probably took them about yeah, probably took them about three hours,

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Speaker 3: So they got there at eight. They must have left

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Speaker 3: it about five in the morning. What journalists in the

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Speaker 3: UK are being told is that the team would just

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Speaker 3: have been told that they needed to report to the

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Speaker 3: station very early in the morning. They wouldn't have been

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Speaker 3: told what it was about. Once they got there, there

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Speaker 3: would have been asked to hand over their cell phones

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Speaker 3: and at that point they would have been given the

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Speaker 3: fire briefing. Then they would have headed off, presumably without

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Speaker 3: their cell phones. When Andrew was then arrested, he would

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Speaker 3: have been put in the back of the paddy wagon

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Speaker 3: or the copper card driven back to Oxfordshire the whole

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Speaker 3: three hours. If it wasn't a closer station, and I

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Speaker 3: suspect it ended up being a closer station was fifteen

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Speaker 3: minutes away for his formal interview. He would have had

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Speaker 3: to do the mug shot, the DNA, the fingerprints, the

555
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Speaker 3: whole lot, hand over his phone, hand over any jewelry

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Speaker 3: that he wasn't going to take into the cell. He

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Speaker 3: would have been put in a cell while he waited

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Speaker 3: for his interview. He would have been offered a cup

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Speaker 3: of tea, maybe some food, and he probably wasn't handcuffed.

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Speaker 3: We're going to have a chat to a royal correspondent

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Speaker 3: about just how enormous this is for the royal family

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Speaker 3: after five Barry Soapa's next sixteen Away from.

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Speaker 1: Five Politics with Centric Credit, check your customers and get payments.

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Speaker 2: Certainty Barris Soaper.

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Speaker 3: Senior political correspondence with US at thirteen Away from five High.

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Speaker 8: Barer, Good afternoon, Heather.

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Speaker 3: Interesting the Greens are finally vetting their lists before just

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Speaker 3: putting them straight.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, it's frustrated some in the party because they see

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Speaker 8: it maybe sort of going towards the show type party

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Speaker 8: and that's not radical enough for them. So the party

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Speaker 8: membership won't have the same influence over who gets on

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Speaker 8: the list come the election, and on the current polling,

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Speaker 8: they'd get about twelve VMPs and I don't think that

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Speaker 8: polling will hold up, but we'll see. You know, they

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Speaker 8: will certainly be back there, there's no doubt about that.

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Speaker 8: So it's an executive panel of the party that will

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Speaker 8: vet who what places they are on the list. And

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Speaker 8: it comes after Darlene Tana, you know, when she was

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Speaker 8: removed from the party and they've had a bad run.

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Speaker 8: When you look at Benjamin Doyle, you look at Gory's Garriman,

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Speaker 8: I mean.

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Speaker 3: You know Elizabeth Kerry Kerry, that's right.

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Speaker 8: So really they have to have a better vetting process

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Speaker 8: to be taken seriously. So that's what they're doing, so

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Speaker 8: not before time.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I would say so too.

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Speaker 2: All right, So is it contentious?

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Speaker 3: Is it actually contentious that Winston Peters Is introduced a

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Speaker 3: bill to make English an official language.

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Speaker 8: I wouldn't have thought it was contentious at all. I

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Speaker 8: would have thought that the MPs would say, well, hang on,

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Speaker 8: it is an English speaking country, Maldy. You've spoken as

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Speaker 8: well by some and sign language is practiced by some people,

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Speaker 8: as we see at the Prime Minister's press conferences every week.

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Speaker 8: But English is not an official language. So New Zealand

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Speaker 8: first have part of the coalition agreement said that we

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Speaker 8: would like legislation to put it into the statutes that

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Speaker 8: the official language, well one of the three official languages

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Speaker 8: of this country is English. Well that caused no end

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Speaker 8: of consternation in the House.

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Speaker 2: Can you believe it?

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Speaker 8: I can't believe it myself. But the Greens Chloe Swarbrick

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Speaker 8: vented her spleen about the bill, saying it's aimed at

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Speaker 8: causing division and isn't needed.

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Speaker 20: We are speaking it right now, it is not under threat.

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Speaker 20: But in order to try and cling to power, this

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Speaker 20: government has decided that it needs to bank on fear.

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Speaker 20: It needs to invent an oppression that does not exist.

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Speaker 20: And if you're wondering how Trump's America happened, it is

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Speaker 20: actually through tactics exactly like this. The government wants to

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Speaker 20: stoke a fight between Tewi Mahri and Pakia, and they

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Speaker 20: want that fight to be the focus of this election.

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Speaker 20: But no one out there in the real world have

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Speaker 20: asked for this. New Zealanders Mary and Tongue Ta Taiti

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Speaker 20: a like just want to live their lives in peace.

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Speaker 13: They want food on.

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Speaker 20: The table, a roof over their head, a decent income

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Speaker 20: and a place to belong. That is the reason one

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Speaker 20: hundred thousand took to the streets last year to reject

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Speaker 20: this government's approach. So in plain English for all members

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Speaker 20: of this government.

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Speaker 3: This bill is bullshit and.

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Speaker 2: You know it.

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Speaker 3: That's ridiculous. This worked up about a bill like that?

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Speaker 8: Girl seriously, as if it's as if making English an

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Speaker 8: official language is going to take food off somebody's table.

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Speaker 8: I mean, please, does it mean you can't order an

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Speaker 8: English or you don't understand the language? I don't know.

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Speaker 8: I mean I just thought they talk about getting their

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Speaker 8: nickers and are.

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Speaker 3: Not enough nothing all. Honestly, this just feels like one

633
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Speaker 3: of those things to go, oh, that's not we haven't

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Speaker 3: done that. It feels like it just feels like a

635
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Speaker 3: little bit of admin that should be done to write

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Speaker 3: something that has been well.

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Speaker 8: I'll tell you, I'll tell you the problem if you

638
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Speaker 8: don't do something like that. You see what has happened,

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Speaker 8: certainly under the Labor when it added the unbridled power.

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Speaker 8: You saw government departments changing their name to mold your

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Speaker 8: name and they can do so because it's an official language.

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Speaker 3: They got away with it. Making English and official language

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Speaker 3: wouldn't change.

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Speaker 8: That but it means that they can shift it back,

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Speaker 8: which is what this government has done, because you know,

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Speaker 8: the Wakats of this world, they've been shifted.

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Speaker 3: Back to the Your argument is not as bad as Chloe,

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Speaker 3: but also you've also just hit me with some bs, so.

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Speaker 8: I'm just going to say that, Well I am Barrys.

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Speaker 3: That's true. Yeah, this is quite right anyway. So how

651
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Speaker 3: much money are they checking out the critical minerals?

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Speaker 8: Yeah, well, you know, this is now really back on

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Speaker 8: the agenda and it's you'll know, the United States has

654
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Speaker 8: been driving this one pretty hard. Resources Minister Shane Jones.

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Speaker 8: He says two companies have so far applied for funds

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Speaker 8: and this is out of the regional fund about eighty

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Speaker 8: million dollars and with extraction, he says, he welcomes from

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Speaker 8: investors who had shied away from this country.

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Speaker 14: They'll become quite shy of New Zealand after Jatinda cancel

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Speaker 14: the oil and gas industry, and one way of overcoming

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Speaker 14: their nervousness is for the crown to have some hurt

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Speaker 14: money in the actual enterprise. Of course, the other option too,

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Speaker 14: that we're exploring is creating some special economic zones that

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Speaker 14: make it easy to get all the necessary consents for

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Speaker 14: the critical minerals. I mean we either import them, we

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Speaker 14: stand on the side, or we get neglected as a

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Speaker 14: distant Pacific nation not really either important or relevant to

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Speaker 14: the march of the critical Minerals revolution. And that's not

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Speaker 14: why I came into politics.

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Speaker 8: You gotta like Shane Jones.

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Speaker 3: I like him a lot more when he actually starts

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Speaker 3: doing something and not just not just talking with his

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Speaker 3: beautiful floral Yeah, he's got good chat were dopse Barry,

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Speaker 3: thanks very much, appreciate it. We'll rap the political week

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Speaker 3: that was shortly. That's at about quarter past sex. Barry Sober,

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Speaker 3: Senior political correspondent. Seven away from five on the subject

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Speaker 3: on Chloe's favorite subject at the moment of English as

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Speaker 3: an official language. We're going to have a chat to

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Speaker 3: an associate professor of linguistics at aut Sharon Harvey, in

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Speaker 3: half an hour and just see what her take on

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Speaker 3: it is. Is four away from five. Now, I told

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Speaker 3: you yesterday about the freshwater strategy poll. Got a few

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Speaker 3: numbers there on how the government's doing. I've got a

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Speaker 3: little bit more from that for you. This is the

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Speaker 3: one that's been released by the Post. The newspaper in

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Speaker 3: the last couple of days. This time it's on politicians

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Speaker 3: favorability and I'm sorry to say, although you will not

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Speaker 3: be surprised, not very good for the Prime Minister. So

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Speaker 3: his personal approval rating according to this poll, has fallen

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Speaker 3: fourteen points in just two months. So in December it

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Speaker 3: was sitting on negative eleven. It is now sitting on

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Speaker 3: negative twenty five. Now, if you don't know what this is,

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Speaker 3: this is basically where they take the people who like

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Speaker 3: him and then they subtract the people who don't like him,

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Speaker 3: and then you end up with your final number. And

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Speaker 3: the fact that he's sitting on negative twenty five shows

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Speaker 3: you that there are a lot more people who don't

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Speaker 3: like him than people who like him. Chrishipkins has fallen

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Speaker 3: quite a lot as well. He's fallen eighteen points, but

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Speaker 3: he started at seventeen, so minus eighteen you end up

701
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Speaker 3: negative one. So he's on negative one. Now that is

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Speaker 3: a lead that he has got as the opposition leader.

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Speaker 3: Negative one. That is a lead on the Prime minister

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Speaker 3: at negative twenty five. That is bizarrely large in modern

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Speaker 3: political history. According to the pollsters, winnip is on a

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Speaker 3: net favorability of negative six. Chloe is on a net

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Speaker 3: favorability of negative seven. All that, I think if you

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Speaker 3: polled again, it'd probably go down. Right now, the only

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Speaker 3: person who has fallen further than Chris Luxon is David Seymour.

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Speaker 3: He's down thirty five points in between basically August twenty

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Speaker 3: three and now he now sits at negative twenty nine percent.

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Speaker 13: Right.

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Speaker 3: We're going to deal next with what is going on

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Speaker 3: with Andrew and how big this is and whether it's

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Speaker 3: an existential crisis for the monarchs. Next with the Royal Correspondent,

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Speaker 3: News Talk ZB.

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Speaker 9: You're sad when you're sad if you only know what.

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Speaker 2: Dressing the newsmakers to get the real story.

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Speaker 1: It's Heather Duper c Ellen Drive with One New Zealand

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Speaker 1: to cover like no one else.

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Speaker 2: New Talk Savy, Good afternoon.

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Speaker 3: Former Prince Andrew has been allowed to return to his

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Speaker 3: Sandringham home after being arrested overnight ourtheim by local police.

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Speaker 3: He was arrested over allegations of misconduct and public office

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Speaker 3: after it was revealed that he sent classified UK trade

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Speaker 3: secrets to the disgrace financier Jeffrey Epstein. Andrew is the

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Speaker 3: first senior royal arrested since Charles the First of England,

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Speaker 3: who was then beheaded. Juliet Redon is a Royal correspondent. Hi, Juliet, Hello.

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Speaker 3: There Are you of the view that this is an

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Speaker 3: existential crisis for the monarchy or something that they will

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Speaker 3: absolutely survive.

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Speaker 19: Well, I think time will tell. To be honest, I

733
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Speaker 19: think it's a very difficult time for the monarchy. I

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Speaker 19: think this is a watershed moment. We're certainly in uncharted waters.

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Speaker 19: But I do think that the King's statement, which was

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Speaker 19: made very swiftly after his brother was arrested, was very

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Speaker 19: powerful and set the tone for where where the firm

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Speaker 19: is going to be heading from here on in which

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Speaker 19: essentially is separating themselves completely from Andrew mount Batten Windsor.

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Speaker 19: He will be left in the hands of the investigation

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Speaker 19: unit at the police. He's a private citizen. He is

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Speaker 19: not a member of the royal family. The royal family themselves,

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Speaker 19: the working royal family will be continuing as King Charles says,

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Speaker 19: my family and I will continue in our duty and

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Speaker 19: service to you all. And certainly they were out there

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Speaker 19: doing that almost immediately after that.

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Speaker 3: If you compare this to previous royal scandals, and there

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Speaker 3: have been a fair few in the last fifty years

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Speaker 3: or so. How does this one shape up the biggest one?

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Speaker 3: I think so.

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Speaker 19: I think it's you know, people have been saying, oh,

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Speaker 19: the abdication was the worst, but the abdication was really

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Speaker 19: a love story.

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Speaker 3: This is far from that.

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Speaker 19: This is about potential alleged criminal activity by a very

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Speaker 19: senior royal, the eighth in line to the throne. This

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Speaker 19: is as bad as it gets, I think.

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Speaker 3: Do we have any idea why it is that the

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Speaker 3: police instead of arresting him, instead of asking him to

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Speaker 3: come into the station like they normally would do with

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Speaker 3: a celebrity, they are rested him at his house.

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Speaker 19: I don't know because they haven't said, but I can

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Speaker 19: suppose that the reason was that they needed the optics

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Speaker 19: to be that Andrew mount Batton Windsor was being treated

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Speaker 19: like anyone else who was being arrested on suspicion of

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Speaker 19: what is a very major offense in this case, misconduct

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Speaker 19: in public office. What is key to this investigation for

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Speaker 19: the police was going into Andrew mount Batton Windsor's houses,

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Speaker 19: which they did at Sandringham. They also went into his

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Speaker 19: former house at Royal Lodge, going through all of his documents,

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Speaker 19: his hard drives, his computers, all of that with Andrew unawares.

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Speaker 19: They didn't want to him to have advanced notice of that. Indeed,

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Speaker 19: the King did not have advanced notice, neither did Buckingham Palace,

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Speaker 19: neither did the Royal households. So the idea is that

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Speaker 19: Andrew needs to be treated as any other regular citizen.

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Speaker 3: That is what he is now.

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Speaker 19: He is no longer a prince of the realm.

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Speaker 3: Very hard, very hard charged to prove, though, isn't it.

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Speaker 19: I don't know, because those emails, which of course are

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Speaker 19: unverified at the moment, certainly, if they are accurate, they

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Speaker 19: certainly do show I believe misconduct because Andrew was passing

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Speaker 19: on confidential files and contacts to Jeffrey Epstein minutes after

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Speaker 19: he received those files. Those files are confidential. He was

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Speaker 19: a trade and voy at the time for the British

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Speaker 19: Government's a very special position, a position that needs confidentiality.

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Speaker 19: Andrew should not have passed those files on and it's

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Speaker 19: a very grave efent. It's a betrayal of his role,

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Speaker 19: it's a betrayal of the British public. It's a betrayal

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Speaker 19: of the government.

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Speaker 3: Juliet, thank you for you to I appreciate as Juliet

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Speaker 3: read and Royal correspondent. By the way, it's being reported

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Speaker 3: that Andrew will not be allowed to use UK taxpayers

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Speaker 3: funds to pay for his legal bill, even if he

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Speaker 3: can't afford it himself. It'll be blocked by the King.

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Speaker 3: Twelve past five together dup right to the police. Apparently

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Speaker 3: fifty seven percent of our serving police officers have thought

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Speaker 3: about resigning in the last year. Now. This is according

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Speaker 3: to a Police Association survey that found pay and stress

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Speaker 3: are the big factors behind that. Steve, what is the

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Speaker 3: Police Association president? Hi, Steve got to carry Heather. It

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Speaker 3: happens all the time, mate, it happens all the time.

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Speaker 3: But it was a claim. Now is this real? Do

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Speaker 3: you think or is this just a passing thought and

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Speaker 3: they've ticked the box.

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Speaker 21: No, it's absolutely real, and it just highlights what pressure

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Speaker 21: our officers are under. The jobs are risky jobs. It

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Speaker 21: weighs heavily on our members' mental and emotional wellbeing. And

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Speaker 21: this is just a manifestation of the frustration and the

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Speaker 21: pressure that our members are under.

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Speaker 3: Do you think that it is worse than previous years.

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Speaker 2: It's hard to tell.

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Speaker 21: It's the first first time that we've asked this question,

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Speaker 21: and the reason that we asked it was that there

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Speaker 21: was anecdotal evidence coming from our members that there was

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Speaker 21: a growing number that we're looking at leaving, so we

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Speaker 21: wanted to test that and this was the first year

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Speaker 21: that we did so. So it's hard to compare it

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Speaker 21: to other years, but sixty percent or nearer on sixty

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Speaker 21: percent is definitely a concerning number.

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Speaker 3: Okay. Now, Police HQ says everything's fine, the attrition rates

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Speaker 3: about five percent and heaps of people are coming back

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Speaker 3: from Australia and rejoining the force. What do you say

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Speaker 3: to that, This isn't a number that can be ignored.

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Speaker 21: What the police and the government need to understand is

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Speaker 21: that there's reasons behind such a big number. Whilst they

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Speaker 21: may not be leaving yet, there's obviously a huge amount

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Speaker 21: of sentiment in behind a sixty percent number of police

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Speaker 21: that have contemplated leaving that can't be ignored.

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Speaker 3: Can you just fix it with pay or do you

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Speaker 3: need something else here?

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Speaker 21: There's a number of issues. Pays obviously a very big one,

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Speaker 21: but it's also about resourcing, making sure that police have

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Speaker 21: the numbers in the right place so that our members

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Speaker 21: aren't having to do over time, they're not having to

835
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Speaker 21: work alone, they're going to up where they need to.

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Speaker 21: So it's a whole raft of things. But ultimately one

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Speaker 21: of the main reasons our members signal that they were

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Speaker 21: looking to leave was pay.

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Speaker 3: All right, Steve, it's good to talk to you. Thank you, mate, Steve.

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Speaker 3: What Police Association president ever do see? Okay, So the

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Speaker 3: photo of Andrew slumped in the back of his range

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Speaker 3: Rover looking like looking as freaked out as you would

843
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Speaker 3: imagine you would be if you've just been arrested by

844
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Speaker 3: the police, that is obviously going to become the defining

845
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Speaker 3: photo of what has just happened to him. There is

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Speaker 3: a yarn behind this. It was taken by a Routers photographer,

847
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Speaker 3: Phil Noble. Now Phil is actually based in Manchester and

848
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Speaker 3: when the news broke he started driving south to Norfolk.

849
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Speaker 3: That is a six hour drive, so he drove for

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Speaker 3: six hours. He got a tip that Andrew was at

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Speaker 3: a station, a really odd police station in a town

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Speaker 3: called Alsham, and so he went there. There was not

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Speaker 3: much going on there. A couple of other members of

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Speaker 3: the media. There was another Router's video journalist who's there.

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Speaker 3: They waited for six or seven hours, so he's driven

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Speaker 3: for six hours. Now he's waiting for six or seven hours,

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Speaker 3: and it's got dark and there's nothing happening, and they decided, nah,

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Speaker 3: we've got the wrong place. So they pack up and

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Speaker 3: they leave and they go book rooms in a hotel.

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Speaker 3: But a few minutes after he gets to the hotel,

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Speaker 3: he gets a call from the video journalist who's also

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Speaker 3: working for Routters, tells him to come back. The cars

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Speaker 3: have arrived to pick Andrew up. He races back. He

864
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Speaker 3: gets there just in time to see two cars leaving.

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Speaker 3: The front car's got the two coppers in it, so

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Speaker 3: he aims his camera, just aims it and starts taking

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Speaker 3: photos of the car behind. Takes six photos to show

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Speaker 3: police to a blank, one is out of focus, one

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Speaker 3: has Andrew in it. Quarter past goodness, I'd almost forgotten.

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Speaker 3: We need to talk about the fact that the government

871
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Speaker 3: is basically doing another U turn, in this time it's

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Speaker 3: on banning. The surcharges will deal with that. Shortly eighteen

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Speaker 3: past five. Now Winster Peters, as you know, has introduced

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Speaker 3: a bill to Parliament to make English and official language,

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Speaker 3: and the debate in Parliament got weirdly fiery, with Chloe

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Speaker 3: Swarbrick in particular quite scathing. Auckland University of Technology Associate

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Speaker 3: Professor of linguistic Sharon Harvey is with us on this

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Speaker 3: high Sharon.

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Speaker 22: Cura, Heather, it's thanks for having me on the program.

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Speaker 3: Good to talk to you. Is this actually really that contentious?

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Speaker 22: I think it's quite contentious. We have language legislation in

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Speaker 22: New Zealand for very particular reasons, and English doesn't fall

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Speaker 22: into that category.

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Speaker 3: What are those reasons?

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Speaker 22: We have legislation around language for protection reasons and for

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Speaker 22: vulnerable communities, particularly communities that weren't previously didn't have their

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Speaker 22: languages previously recognized, for example in justice settings or in

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Speaker 22: educational settings. So, for example, in the case of the

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Speaker 22: deaf community, they wouldn't regularly be able to get access

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Speaker 22: to deaf interpreters or Deaf English interpreters.

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Speaker 3: Right, Okay, so we've made sign language and Thrill Maari

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Speaker 3: official languages to protect them. Is there any reason, though,

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Speaker 3: why we wouldn't make English an official language.

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Speaker 22: Well, I guess we don't have any reason to protect

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Speaker 22: English English?

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Speaker 3: But is that the only reason you ever make something

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Speaker 3: an official language.

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Speaker 22: Well, I guess if we look at like jurisdictions like Australia,

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Speaker 22: federal level of the US and the UK, those jurisdictions

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Speaker 22: don't have English as an official language and don't see

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Speaker 22: any need to, I guess this feels like a big

902
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Speaker 22: waste of time really and money. There's just no reason

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Speaker 22: for it.

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Speaker 3: All right, Hey, thank you very much, Sharon, appreciate your time.

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Speaker 3: That Sharon Harvey, aut Associate Professor of Linguistics. Now, yeah,

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Speaker 3: actually i'd like to know. Look, as I said before,

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Speaker 3: I'm not fussed either way on this one. If it's

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Speaker 3: not an official language, it doesn't really bother me because

909
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Speaker 3: whatever we speak it anyway. If it is an official language,

910
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Speaker 3: also don't really care. So it just feels like one

911
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Speaker 3: of those ones that I'm like, you do what you're with.

912
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Speaker 3: If Winston wants to do that the admin and chuck

913
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Speaker 3: it in there and spend some time that's important to him,

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Speaker 3: he can go for it. I don't feel cross one

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Speaker 3: way or the other. If you do, though, hit me

916
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Speaker 3: with it so I can understand, cause obviously Sharon's in

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Speaker 3: the Chloe camp. There no disrespect, but she clearly is anyway,

918
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Speaker 3: so let me know nine two, niney two. Now, entirely predictably,

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Speaker 3: the government has killed off that plan of banning the surcharges.

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Speaker 3: You know when you go to the grocery store and

921
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Speaker 3: what it's not really at the grocery store, but let's

922
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Speaker 3: say you go to the chemist, who go to the

923
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Speaker 3: dairy or whatever, and you go to pay with your

924
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Speaker 3: payWave and they go, there's a surcharge and cost your

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Speaker 3: sixty cents. They wanted to ban it. They've un they've

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Speaker 3: undone that. And I don't want to say I told

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Speaker 3: you so, but I am going to say I told

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Speaker 3: you so because I told you so on multiple occasions,

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Speaker 3: including the last line of my etico do some my

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Speaker 3: own admin today, last line of my column in the

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Speaker 3: Herald on Sunday third of August twenty twenty five. I say,

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Speaker 3: watch now for how they get out of this. They

933
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Speaker 3: will have to. They can't be doing this to their

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Speaker 3: own voter base and small retailers just months out from

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Speaker 3: next year's election, because of course they're making the small

936
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Speaker 3: retailer suck up the searcharge. And wow, what a surprise.

937
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Speaker 3: Months out from the election, they're backing away from it

938
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Speaker 3: now Consumer New Zealand is not happy about that. Consumer

939
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Speaker 3: New Zealand still wants the government to go ahead with

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Speaker 3: the band, so they will be with us after six

941
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Speaker 3: o'clock and talk us through their thinking. They're five twenty

942
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Speaker 3: two cutting through.

943
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Speaker 2: The noise to get the facts.

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Speaker 1: It's Heather do for c Ellen drive with one New

945
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Speaker 1: Zealand coverage like no one else news talks.

946
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Speaker 3: They'd be five twenty four sports Tittle is going to

947
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Speaker 3: be with us short now. I'll get you across some

948
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Speaker 3: of that. We should talk about to Hue, shouldn't we?

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Speaker 13: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: We should to who here is one of the reasons

951
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Speaker 3: that I previously a skeptic of the plan to cap

952
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Speaker 3: council rates and fast becoming a fan of the idea

953
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Speaker 3: of cap and council rates. To who here is a

954
00:45:10,719 --> 00:45:13,720
Speaker 3: dog of an idea. Five years of it wasting ratepayers

955
00:45:13,760 --> 00:45:16,640
Speaker 3: and taxpayers money was frankly enough, the trial should never

956
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Speaker 3: have been extended for another year yesterday. That train costs

957
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Speaker 3: six million dollars every year to run. But whatever it

958
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Speaker 3: is that the passengers pay when they jump on board

959
00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:26,520
Speaker 3: is not the full cost of running the thing. They

960
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Speaker 3: are subsidized by ratepayers and taxpayers to the tune of

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Speaker 3: eighty four dollars to ninety two dollars every single trip

962
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Speaker 3: they take per person, so per person, every single trip,

963
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Speaker 3: eighty four to ninety two dollars. And that's just one way,

964
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Speaker 3: so when they come back the other way, you can

965
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Speaker 3: add that on again. So it's coming very close to

966
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Speaker 3: about two hundred dollars just to catch the train from

967
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Speaker 3: Hamilton to Auckland back again. If you listen to Angela,

968
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Speaker 3: who was from the council on with Mike this morning,

969
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Speaker 3: the train is actually not a raging success. Patronage has

970
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Speaker 3: recently dropped off. So given that the thing is incredibly

971
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Speaker 3: expensive and now not that popular, you'd think that the

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Speaker 3: looming end of the five year trial midway through this

973
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Speaker 3: year would have given than the Wycuttle Regional Council the

974
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Speaker 3: perfect out they could kill off this dog of an idea.

975
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Speaker 3: They didn't even have to just trial is over, that's it.

976
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Speaker 3: But no, they asked for another year to try and

977
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Speaker 3: try to keep on making this thing into a thing

978
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Speaker 3: and wasting rate payer money and actually taxpayer money as well.

979
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Speaker 3: And meanwhile they're jacking up their council rates by five

980
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Speaker 3: point seven percent, which is close to fifty percent more

981
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Speaker 3: than what the proposed rates cap would have be set at.

982
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Speaker 3: You've got that, You've then got Akaya blowing three hundred

983
00:46:26,880 --> 00:46:29,560
Speaker 3: thousand dollars on renovating the fish statue. Then you've got

984
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Speaker 3: in the Cargol blowing two million dollars on building a

985
00:46:31,880 --> 00:46:33,640
Speaker 3: clock tower in a day and age when everyone has

986
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Speaker 3: the time on their cell phone already. And then you've

987
00:46:35,520 --> 00:46:38,120
Speaker 3: got the situation in Wellington where they've had to cancel

988
00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:40,399
Speaker 3: finally the cycle ways so they could put the money

989
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Speaker 3: into fixing the poop pipes. All of that stuff together

990
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Speaker 3: is frankly why I'm becoming fast a fan of rates caps,

991
00:46:47,000 --> 00:46:48,720
Speaker 3: because I think it is time to take the pocket

992
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Speaker 3: money away from the children. They're wasting it on train

993
00:46:51,320 --> 00:46:55,320
Speaker 3: sets again, Heather Do for ce Ellen Yeather. Given the

994
00:46:55,360 --> 00:46:57,520
Speaker 3: way that political activism is in the interest of all

995
00:46:57,560 --> 00:46:59,720
Speaker 3: things racial, I think it's only time before some idiot

996
00:46:59,760 --> 00:47:01,680
Speaker 3: mount an argument that we shouldn't be allowed to speak

997
00:47:01,680 --> 00:47:03,800
Speaker 3: English because it's not an official language of New Zealand,

998
00:47:03,800 --> 00:47:05,880
Speaker 3: therefore it should be an official language of New Zealand.

999
00:47:06,200 --> 00:47:08,040
Speaker 3: Hither I don't know why there's so much negative talk

1000
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Speaker 3: about making English an official language. And yes, we do

1001
00:47:10,360 --> 00:47:13,160
Speaker 3: need to protect it. Honestly, with the Malori party the

1002
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Speaker 3: way it is hither, it's bloody common sense to make

1003
00:47:15,680 --> 00:47:17,759
Speaker 3: English an official language. It'll stop the strive to have

1004
00:47:17,840 --> 00:47:22,719
Speaker 3: everything in Toiday and so it goes on. I feel

1005
00:47:22,800 --> 00:47:25,960
Speaker 3: like I feel like everybody's been slightly snookered by Winstill

1006
00:47:26,000 --> 00:47:28,080
Speaker 3: in this one, don't you think, because I mean, I

1007
00:47:28,160 --> 00:47:29,839
Speaker 3: don't know none of that stuff that that just came

1008
00:47:29,920 --> 00:47:31,600
Speaker 3: through on the text machine is particularly I don't really

1009
00:47:31,680 --> 00:47:34,040
Speaker 3: care about whatever. It doesn't I'm not phased by it,

1010
00:47:34,120 --> 00:47:35,959
Speaker 3: but it does feel like a snooker of an argument,

1011
00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:38,560
Speaker 3: isn't it. We all speak English and so to vote

1012
00:47:38,560 --> 00:47:41,440
Speaker 3: against it being an official language does feel like a

1013
00:47:42,520 --> 00:47:45,400
Speaker 3: really dumb thing to do in parliament, Like you're speaking

1014
00:47:45,440 --> 00:47:47,440
Speaker 3: English in parliament and young no, it shouldn't be an

1015
00:47:47,480 --> 00:47:50,200
Speaker 3: official language. So I feel like he's kind of he's

1016
00:47:50,280 --> 00:47:52,279
Speaker 3: just going to kind of make make it idiots out

1017
00:47:52,280 --> 00:47:55,040
Speaker 3: of everybody who votes against it. Anyway, well haven't you

1018
00:47:55,080 --> 00:47:56,800
Speaker 3: had to bury Soper? He'll rap the political week that

1019
00:47:56,960 --> 00:47:58,760
Speaker 3: was quarter past six. News is next.

1020
00:48:01,040 --> 00:48:07,200
Speaker 1: Over again, Hard questions strong opinion here the duplicy el

1021
00:48:07,280 --> 00:48:10,080
Speaker 1: and drive with one New Zealand And the power of

1022
00:48:10,200 --> 00:48:13,080
Speaker 1: satellite mobile news Doorg said, be does.

1023
00:48:12,960 --> 00:48:20,920
Speaker 3: The Inn Watson, who is the boss of Business Canterbury's

1024
00:48:20,960 --> 00:48:23,200
Speaker 3: had lunch with the new Reserve Bank governor. She's going

1025
00:48:23,280 --> 00:48:25,080
Speaker 3: to be with us in a hour's time. Missus Leanne

1026
00:48:25,120 --> 00:48:27,239
Speaker 3: and give us, give us, give us a little bit

1027
00:48:27,239 --> 00:48:30,360
Speaker 3: of a her hot takes on Anna Bremen what she

1028
00:48:30,480 --> 00:48:33,439
Speaker 3: makes of her. Parliament has just revealed it's no longer

1029
00:48:33,640 --> 00:48:35,400
Speaker 3: going to be posting on Twitter they call it X

1030
00:48:35,520 --> 00:48:37,440
Speaker 3: these days, that the account's going to be that's it.

1031
00:48:37,600 --> 00:48:39,080
Speaker 3: I don't know whether they're going to take the account

1032
00:48:39,120 --> 00:48:42,240
Speaker 3: down or just shut off any further posting on the account,

1033
00:48:42,239 --> 00:48:44,640
Speaker 3: but basically decision has been taken by the Clerk of

1034
00:48:44,680 --> 00:48:47,239
Speaker 3: the House, David Wilson, who says he stopped doing it

1035
00:48:47,360 --> 00:48:49,960
Speaker 3: because he doesn't want to support Twitter anymore because of

1036
00:48:50,000 --> 00:48:53,160
Speaker 3: the way that the AI chatbot GROC can be used

1037
00:48:53,200 --> 00:48:56,440
Speaker 3: to generate deep fake nudes and child exploitation material. I

1038
00:48:56,480 --> 00:48:58,440
Speaker 3: wouldn't be surprised by this, and I also wouldn't be

1039
00:48:58,480 --> 00:49:01,080
Speaker 3: surprised if there are more people and organizations who take

1040
00:49:01,120 --> 00:49:03,160
Speaker 3: a similar stance on what is going on on Twitter

1041
00:49:03,200 --> 00:49:04,880
Speaker 3: at the moment. Twenty four away from six.

1042
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Speaker 1: The Friday Sports title with New Zealand Souberby's International Realty,

1043
00:49:09,360 --> 00:49:18,560
Speaker 1: a name you can trust locally and globally. With the

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Speaker 1: backside ten eighty, it's selling you with another incredible run.

1045
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Speaker 11: Winning a medal at the Olympics is a life changing

1046
00:49:27,920 --> 00:49:31,640
Speaker 11: experience for every athlete. Doing it five times is exponentially

1047
00:49:31,680 --> 00:49:35,120
Speaker 11: harder because every medal is equally hard for me, but

1048
00:49:35,239 --> 00:49:37,799
Speaker 11: everybody else's expectations right, like the.

1049
00:49:37,960 --> 00:49:39,680
Speaker 20: Price of coffee over here is.

1050
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Speaker 12: Actually fine, I'm not sure that the winers.

1051
00:49:44,320 --> 00:49:45,359
Speaker 2: Where are you going with that one?

1052
00:49:46,160 --> 00:49:48,120
Speaker 3: On the huddle of us this evening, we have Adam Cooper,

1053
00:49:48,160 --> 00:49:50,000
Speaker 3: host of the All Sports breakfast on News Talks he'd

1054
00:49:50,040 --> 00:49:53,240
Speaker 3: be in Wellington, and Nathan Limb, the Herald sports journalist

1055
00:49:53,320 --> 00:49:56,200
Speaker 3: with us. Hello you too. Hello. All right, So Nathan,

1056
00:49:56,239 --> 00:49:58,480
Speaker 3: we've had the resignation of Matt Winnerai's the chair of

1057
00:49:58,600 --> 00:50:01,480
Speaker 3: Netball New Zealanders. At the end of try to bow

1058
00:50:01,560 --> 00:50:02,600
Speaker 3: on the matter, it's all over.

1059
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Speaker 16: This is only the beginning of what they have to

1060
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Speaker 16: do in order to turn things around with the sport

1061
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Speaker 16: as a whole. Because yes, there has been a lot

1062
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Speaker 16: of change in leadership. Geniy Wiley stepped down now the

1063
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Speaker 16: board chair has stepped down a few board members as well,

1064
00:50:15,360 --> 00:50:18,160
Speaker 16: but there is a lot of reparation to go on.

1065
00:50:18,360 --> 00:50:21,719
Speaker 16: I suppose at an elite level, we still need to

1066
00:50:21,800 --> 00:50:24,600
Speaker 16: know that Dave Nilen total has sort of solved things

1067
00:50:24,680 --> 00:50:27,000
Speaker 16: with the playing group, but she still has not had

1068
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Speaker 16: any time with them and at the stage won't until

1069
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Speaker 16: three weeks out from the Commonwealth Games. At an A

1070
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Speaker 16: and Z premiership level, they've only got a broadcast deal

1071
00:50:34,200 --> 00:50:36,239
Speaker 16: for this year, so that whole conundrum that we've had

1072
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Speaker 16: for the last two years of who's going to take

1073
00:50:38,080 --> 00:50:39,520
Speaker 16: and we're going to have that again this year, so

1074
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Speaker 16: that needs to be sorted out. And then in December

1075
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Speaker 16: you had the white cut of Bay of Plenty Zone

1076
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Speaker 16: calling for the board to be overhauled because that they'd

1077
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Speaker 16: lost faith in the leadership. And so leadership changes have happened.

1078
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Speaker 16: Now now they need to bring people in externally and

1079
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Speaker 16: starts solvazation.

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Speaker 3: Is this he I mean, you can obviously sheet home

1081
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Speaker 3: to him what happened with Dame Knowles because he to

1082
00:51:00,200 --> 00:51:02,680
Speaker 3: sign off on that whole process. So everything that happened

1083
00:51:02,760 --> 00:51:04,880
Speaker 3: was because the board said that that was okay. But

1084
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Speaker 3: can you blame the board for the state that the

1085
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Speaker 3: sport finds itself, and like, is this their fault?

1086
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Speaker 16: The board looks after I suppose the board is the

1087
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Speaker 16: chief executive's boss, right, so the chief executive's kind of

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Speaker 16: running the show, and then the chief executive has to

1089
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Speaker 16: report to the board how the organization is running. So

1090
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Speaker 16: whether you put the blame with the CEO or with

1091
00:51:23,440 --> 00:51:24,840
Speaker 16: the board, isn't that what I'm.

1092
00:51:24,680 --> 00:51:26,320
Speaker 3: Trying to say? Is it their fault or is it

1093
00:51:26,400 --> 00:51:28,440
Speaker 3: actually just a function of what happened with us dropping

1094
00:51:28,480 --> 00:51:30,120
Speaker 3: out of the premiership in Australia.

1095
00:51:30,440 --> 00:51:33,040
Speaker 16: Well, I think the sport of netball has been too

1096
00:51:33,080 --> 00:51:35,720
Speaker 16: slow to adjust in New Zealand and the board should

1097
00:51:35,719 --> 00:51:38,160
Speaker 16: have had the foresight to see what other teams, what

1098
00:51:38,280 --> 00:51:41,160
Speaker 16: other nations were doing oversea overseas, but that also should

1099
00:51:41,160 --> 00:51:44,239
Speaker 16: have come from the CEO. And you know, I have

1100
00:51:44,360 --> 00:51:46,880
Speaker 16: a little bit of sympathy for Matt Winer, who Genny

1101
00:51:46,880 --> 00:51:48,320
Speaker 16: Wiley just sort of dropped off the face of the

1102
00:51:48,360 --> 00:51:50,320
Speaker 16: earth late last year when all that was going on.

1103
00:51:50,440 --> 00:51:52,520
Speaker 16: She went on leave and then she just disappeared. I

1104
00:51:52,600 --> 00:51:55,320
Speaker 16: think I talked to her last in sort of late October,

1105
00:51:55,360 --> 00:51:57,799
Speaker 16: and from there she just disappeared. And no one has

1106
00:51:57,840 --> 00:52:00,800
Speaker 16: spoken to her, and Matt sort of shouldered all of that,

1107
00:52:01,680 --> 00:52:04,480
Speaker 16: so you know, he's had a really, really tough job.

1108
00:52:05,160 --> 00:52:07,960
Speaker 16: But I think it's clear that just they needed a

1109
00:52:08,040 --> 00:52:10,719
Speaker 16: refreshing leadership and we need some new ideas and try

1110
00:52:10,760 --> 00:52:11,600
Speaker 16: and move the sport forward.

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00:52:11,719 --> 00:52:13,680
Speaker 23: What do you think could yeah, I mean, I think

1112
00:52:13,680 --> 00:52:15,600
Speaker 23: if I was a board member of surviving this, I'd

1113
00:52:15,600 --> 00:52:18,439
Speaker 23: feel a little bit of not necessarily survivors guilt because

1114
00:52:18,480 --> 00:52:21,760
Speaker 23: you're not necessarily surviving because you're still leading the sports.

1115
00:52:21,760 --> 00:52:25,440
Speaker 23: So it's one of its tumultuous errors. So complacency is

1116
00:52:25,440 --> 00:52:27,680
Speaker 23: the word I use as to where Nepor got. They

1117
00:52:27,960 --> 00:52:31,800
Speaker 23: were so strong commercially, they had incredible following. You wouldn't

1118
00:52:31,800 --> 00:52:34,279
Speaker 23: see many Silver Ferns tests anywhere in New Zealand that

1119
00:52:34,280 --> 00:52:37,600
Speaker 23: would have set out many am Z Premiership games. You know,

1120
00:52:37,800 --> 00:52:40,560
Speaker 23: there was high interest in most of the franchises around

1121
00:52:40,600 --> 00:52:43,400
Speaker 23: the country. The sport was in such a strong position,

1122
00:52:43,560 --> 00:52:47,120
Speaker 23: and somehow this board oversaw that transfer into being a

1123
00:52:47,320 --> 00:52:50,880
Speaker 23: very vulnerable sport over time. You know, they felt they

1124
00:52:50,920 --> 00:52:54,439
Speaker 23: were too good for the am Z Premiership TV rights

1125
00:52:54,520 --> 00:52:57,880
Speaker 23: deal to ever be not renewed, and they've just overseen

1126
00:52:58,120 --> 00:53:00,880
Speaker 23: you know, problem after problem, but I think, you know,

1127
00:53:01,480 --> 00:53:03,120
Speaker 23: you look back at some of the reasons and most

1128
00:53:03,160 --> 00:53:06,879
Speaker 23: of them have been caused by management decisions or lack

1129
00:53:06,960 --> 00:53:10,600
Speaker 23: of management decisions to sort of, you know, bounce back

1130
00:53:10,640 --> 00:53:12,560
Speaker 23: from from a lot of the issues the sport was facing.

1131
00:53:12,640 --> 00:53:15,120
Speaker 23: So in terms of a new board, I'd like to

1132
00:53:15,160 --> 00:53:18,200
Speaker 23: see the entire board that I oversaw the last twelve

1133
00:53:18,280 --> 00:53:20,840
Speaker 23: eighteen months of decision making go. The sport needs to

1134
00:53:21,360 --> 00:53:23,880
Speaker 23: start afresh. There's plenty of good people with a netball

1135
00:53:23,920 --> 00:53:26,839
Speaker 23: that I think could be considered to run a new era,

1136
00:53:27,000 --> 00:53:29,400
Speaker 23: a rebuilding era for netboard New Zealand. And it's got

1137
00:53:29,440 --> 00:53:32,320
Speaker 23: to happen now. As Nathan mentioned, Dan nol Ling Tota

1138
00:53:32,480 --> 00:53:36,399
Speaker 23: is possible, you know, realignment with the firms playing group.

1139
00:53:36,440 --> 00:53:38,520
Speaker 23: Wherether that happens down the track or not, We'll wait

1140
00:53:38,600 --> 00:53:41,280
Speaker 23: and see. But I think completely new leadership from start

1141
00:53:41,320 --> 00:53:43,239
Speaker 23: to finish of his board as the starting point.

1142
00:53:43,440 --> 00:53:45,880
Speaker 3: Interesting. You're harsh as well, by the way coops you

1143
00:53:45,920 --> 00:53:49,200
Speaker 3: want them all gone, SALGP coops you reckon too unsafe.

1144
00:53:50,600 --> 00:53:54,320
Speaker 23: Yeah, I think you know that's interesting. I heard someone

1145
00:53:54,440 --> 00:53:56,359
Speaker 23: earlier in the week describe it as the early days

1146
00:53:56,400 --> 00:54:00,279
Speaker 23: of Formula one when safety had still a lot of

1147
00:54:00,680 --> 00:54:03,680
Speaker 23: areas and gray areas with the sport. I mean the

1148
00:54:03,760 --> 00:54:06,880
Speaker 23: way these bodes fly at incredibly high speeds and then

1149
00:54:06,920 --> 00:54:09,040
Speaker 23: the way they try and cram them into these tiny

1150
00:54:09,080 --> 00:54:11,799
Speaker 23: little tracks close to the spectators, I think has caught

1151
00:54:11,800 --> 00:54:14,040
Speaker 23: them off guard of it, to be honest. You know,

1152
00:54:14,160 --> 00:54:16,200
Speaker 23: some of the accidents are seeing, not just obviously the

1153
00:54:16,239 --> 00:54:19,400
Speaker 23: big one in Auckland last weekend, but others on the circuit.

1154
00:54:19,440 --> 00:54:24,440
Speaker 23: They've become quite consistent and regular and putting lives at danger,

1155
00:54:25,040 --> 00:54:29,000
Speaker 23: and you know, these serious injuries, particularly the Kiwi guy

1156
00:54:29,160 --> 00:54:32,040
Speaker 23: last weekend, they do need to rethink some of them.

1157
00:54:32,080 --> 00:54:35,520
Speaker 23: Do they have a reduced playing fields where they only

1158
00:54:35,640 --> 00:54:37,840
Speaker 23: have sort of half the fleet in each race and

1159
00:54:37,880 --> 00:54:40,120
Speaker 23: sort of split them up timing wise? Do they take

1160
00:54:40,200 --> 00:54:41,880
Speaker 23: them out a little bit more and you know, just

1161
00:54:41,960 --> 00:54:45,080
Speaker 23: have to take away the fan experience ever so slightly.

1162
00:54:45,160 --> 00:54:47,399
Speaker 23: But in this day and age, there's not many things

1163
00:54:47,480 --> 00:54:50,080
Speaker 23: you would get away with the level of risk that

1164
00:54:50,200 --> 00:54:53,319
Speaker 23: sayal GP take each and every race they do these days.

1165
00:54:53,360 --> 00:54:56,880
Speaker 23: So I think it'll cause a quite a big rethink

1166
00:54:56,920 --> 00:54:59,280
Speaker 23: around safety. I don't think it will end the sport

1167
00:54:59,320 --> 00:55:01,560
Speaker 23: and what it offers an entertainment package because it was

1168
00:55:01,640 --> 00:55:04,319
Speaker 23: absolutely brilliant there and awkward. But I think they must

1169
00:55:04,360 --> 00:55:08,040
Speaker 23: take this seriously now because they are within a few

1170
00:55:08,080 --> 00:55:10,480
Speaker 23: percentage points of a real disaster.

1171
00:55:10,640 --> 00:55:13,960
Speaker 3: So Nathan, somebody text through earlier, earlier in the week

1172
00:55:14,000 --> 00:55:17,120
Speaker 3: and said they went along and when they actually split

1173
00:55:17,200 --> 00:55:19,200
Speaker 3: the course, when they took half of them out, let

1174
00:55:19,239 --> 00:55:20,880
Speaker 3: them race each other and then the other half, it

1175
00:55:20,960 --> 00:55:22,799
Speaker 3: was actually a better viewing experience and the whole lot

1176
00:55:22,800 --> 00:55:24,200
Speaker 3: of them trying to race each other. So is that

1177
00:55:24,280 --> 00:55:24,960
Speaker 3: maybe the solution.

1178
00:55:25,120 --> 00:55:28,160
Speaker 16: Well, they were going to split to change it to

1179
00:55:28,239 --> 00:55:31,719
Speaker 16: split fleets for next year anyway, so this is a

1180
00:55:31,840 --> 00:55:33,680
Speaker 16: change that was going to happen anyway. I think you

1181
00:55:34,080 --> 00:55:38,640
Speaker 16: need to probably point out that the crash that happened,

1182
00:55:38,840 --> 00:55:42,000
Speaker 16: you could have two boats next to each other and

1183
00:55:42,160 --> 00:55:44,320
Speaker 16: it might have happened. I was going to draw the

1184
00:55:44,360 --> 00:55:47,520
Speaker 16: comparison with Formula one as well that you did COOPS

1185
00:55:47,560 --> 00:55:50,200
Speaker 16: and to say, you know, in motorsport, if there's a

1186
00:55:50,239 --> 00:55:53,560
Speaker 16: big crash, we'd be having the same conversation as Formula

1187
00:55:53,640 --> 00:55:57,080
Speaker 16: one too unsafe. These things do happen, I think I

1188
00:55:57,120 --> 00:55:59,520
Speaker 16: think so GP, like you said, COEPS is in its infancy,

1189
00:55:59,640 --> 00:56:01,520
Speaker 16: so they are going to be figuring out these little things.

1190
00:56:02,320 --> 00:56:04,760
Speaker 16: For example, in Formula one they introduced the halos around

1191
00:56:04,800 --> 00:56:06,840
Speaker 16: the driver's heads so that if there were to be

1192
00:56:06,920 --> 00:56:09,839
Speaker 16: a crash, there is something they're protecting there. So maybe

1193
00:56:09,880 --> 00:56:11,640
Speaker 16: there's something in that sort of area that they could

1194
00:56:11,640 --> 00:56:13,719
Speaker 16: look at when people are in those little compartments and

1195
00:56:13,760 --> 00:56:16,480
Speaker 16: you've got potentially another boat flying over the top, so

1196
00:56:16,560 --> 00:56:18,279
Speaker 16: there's going to be little things that they can look at.

1197
00:56:18,360 --> 00:56:20,000
Speaker 16: But I don't think this is we don't need to

1198
00:56:20,040 --> 00:56:21,880
Speaker 16: be dramatizing this in the way that this is the

1199
00:56:22,000 --> 00:56:23,400
Speaker 16: end of the sport or that's going to cause an

1200
00:56:23,440 --> 00:56:26,160
Speaker 16: overhaul of the sport. No, it's just about fine tuning

1201
00:56:26,239 --> 00:56:27,839
Speaker 16: and these things do come with risk.

1202
00:56:27,960 --> 00:56:30,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, totally fair point. As well said, actually they'll probably

1203
00:56:30,480 --> 00:56:32,080
Speaker 3: find tune. It will take a break. Come back shortly

1204
00:56:32,120 --> 00:56:33,960
Speaker 3: with these guys at seventeen away from six.

1205
00:56:36,000 --> 00:56:40,080
Speaker 1: The Friday Sports title with New Zealand Southurby's international.

1206
00:56:39,640 --> 00:56:42,360
Speaker 2: Real team, the only truly global brand.

1207
00:56:42,800 --> 00:56:44,919
Speaker 3: Fourteen away from six and you're back with the sports tittle,

1208
00:56:44,920 --> 00:56:48,160
Speaker 3: Adam Cooper, Nathan Limb. Adam, can you tell me why

1209
00:56:48,239 --> 00:56:49,960
Speaker 3: it is? Like, explain to me why it is that

1210
00:56:50,080 --> 00:56:53,320
Speaker 3: New Zealand Crickets Board is agonizing over n Z twenty

1211
00:56:53,360 --> 00:56:54,719
Speaker 3: to the extent that it is because it looks to

1212
00:56:54,800 --> 00:56:55,600
Speaker 3: me like a no brainer.

1213
00:56:57,239 --> 00:56:59,920
Speaker 24: Yeah, it's really frustrating, isn't it that we don't have

1214
00:57:00,080 --> 00:57:03,120
Speaker 24: clarity over what is happening in less than twelve months time.

1215
00:57:03,280 --> 00:57:08,800
Speaker 24: January is the window for whatever tournaments the domestic competition

1216
00:57:08,920 --> 00:57:13,280
Speaker 24: takes next summer, and players above all have no idea

1217
00:57:13,360 --> 00:57:15,799
Speaker 24: what what to do. So you can't blame what we've

1218
00:57:15,840 --> 00:57:19,680
Speaker 24: heard during the week about more players considering not being

1219
00:57:19,760 --> 00:57:22,040
Speaker 24: centrally contracted by a New Zealand cricket And to be honest,

1220
00:57:22,040 --> 00:57:24,000
Speaker 24: I don't think that's a bad thing in this uncertainty,

1221
00:57:24,080 --> 00:57:25,880
Speaker 24: and you can't blame the players for doing that. You

1222
00:57:25,920 --> 00:57:29,520
Speaker 24: look at some of our top performers from this current tournament,

1223
00:57:29,520 --> 00:57:31,280
Speaker 24: the TEA two, any World Cup. A lot of them

1224
00:57:31,400 --> 00:57:34,280
Speaker 24: are players who have chosen in the recent seasons not

1225
00:57:34,400 --> 00:57:38,040
Speaker 24: to be contracted, players the likes of Finaleen, Devin Conway,

1226
00:57:38,160 --> 00:57:42,320
Speaker 24: Lucky Ferguson, Kane Williamson. I don't think it's necessarily a

1227
00:57:42,480 --> 00:57:45,560
Speaker 24: bad thing for the game in the future because it

1228
00:57:45,640 --> 00:57:49,800
Speaker 24: is the reality if more players decide to become sort

1229
00:57:49,800 --> 00:57:51,959
Speaker 24: of freelancers if you like they slot into the Black

1230
00:57:52,000 --> 00:57:55,280
Speaker 24: Caps for tournaments like these, hopefully a few series on

1231
00:57:55,400 --> 00:57:58,960
Speaker 24: and off at home or away. But the nature of

1232
00:57:59,000 --> 00:58:01,800
Speaker 24: the sport is now if players can't cast their eyes

1233
00:58:02,280 --> 00:58:04,720
Speaker 24: eleven months ahead knowing that there's going to either be

1234
00:58:04,760 --> 00:58:06,960
Speaker 24: a franchise competition in New Zealand there's going to be

1235
00:58:07,040 --> 00:58:10,240
Speaker 24: a watered down Super Smash, which right now feels to

1236
00:58:10,360 --> 00:58:13,000
Speaker 24: me is the most likely option. Next year is kind

1237
00:58:13,040 --> 00:58:15,640
Speaker 24: of an in between between what we've had and the

1238
00:58:15,760 --> 00:58:17,920
Speaker 24: future competition, because it's going to be a lot to

1239
00:58:17,960 --> 00:58:20,880
Speaker 24: get an MZ twenty up and running in eleven months now.

1240
00:58:21,120 --> 00:58:23,160
Speaker 24: You just can't blame these players, and it has just

1241
00:58:23,240 --> 00:58:25,240
Speaker 24: been one of those things when the Zealand cricket has

1242
00:58:25,360 --> 00:58:29,360
Speaker 24: kind of tried to fight. The fight appears almost over,

1243
00:58:29,720 --> 00:58:31,959
Speaker 24: but you just get that sense that there's a little

1244
00:58:32,000 --> 00:58:34,960
Speaker 24: bit of stubbornness there stopping it completely. Being given the

1245
00:58:35,000 --> 00:58:37,480
Speaker 24: green light from the entire New Zealand Cricket Board, so

1246
00:58:38,320 --> 00:58:40,200
Speaker 24: the writings on the wall, it is going to happen.

1247
00:58:40,280 --> 00:58:41,080
Speaker 13: It needs to happen.

1248
00:58:41,160 --> 00:58:44,520
Speaker 24: Our domestic associations really need a league like this for

1249
00:58:44,920 --> 00:58:46,360
Speaker 24: financial stability.

1250
00:58:47,040 --> 00:58:48,160
Speaker 13: Players obviously want it.

1251
00:58:48,680 --> 00:58:49,600
Speaker 23: Let's just make it happen.

1252
00:58:49,640 --> 00:58:51,800
Speaker 3: Why don't they just make it happen, Nathan, I don't know.

1253
00:58:51,880 --> 00:58:53,960
Speaker 16: I think it seems to me like the clear option

1254
00:58:54,080 --> 00:58:56,760
Speaker 16: is to get some private backers in and to just

1255
00:58:56,880 --> 00:59:00,440
Speaker 16: fold and do this franchise model because we don't have

1256
00:59:00,520 --> 00:59:02,480
Speaker 16: a choice. The Super Smash is just not at the

1257
00:59:02,520 --> 00:59:04,320
Speaker 16: same quality as overseas.

1258
00:59:04,400 --> 00:59:06,280
Speaker 3: So the question isn't actually do you do the Super

1259
00:59:06,320 --> 00:59:08,240
Speaker 3: Smash or do you do then NZ twenty, it's do

1260
00:59:08,400 --> 00:59:10,680
Speaker 3: you do the NZ twenty or do you join the

1261
00:59:10,760 --> 00:59:12,600
Speaker 3: Big Bash in Australia? Which would you do?

1262
00:59:12,960 --> 00:59:14,840
Speaker 16: I mean, I don't I quite like the idea of

1263
00:59:14,920 --> 00:59:17,600
Speaker 16: joining the Big Bash. But from what we've heard from

1264
00:59:17,640 --> 00:59:20,080
Speaker 16: what that HEROLD understands from players, is the NZ twenty.

1265
00:59:20,120 --> 00:59:22,240
Speaker 16: I think it's the more preferred option of the two.

1266
00:59:22,280 --> 00:59:24,400
Speaker 16: And you think that would provide more playing opportunities in

1267
00:59:24,440 --> 00:59:27,640
Speaker 16: New Zealand rather than one or two yeah, exactly, rather

1268
00:59:27,720 --> 00:59:31,680
Speaker 16: than one or two teams in an Australian competition. I'm

1269
00:59:31,680 --> 00:59:34,240
Speaker 16: going to draw a direct comparison with this to the

1270
00:59:34,360 --> 00:59:37,360
Speaker 16: netball last year, with what keeps us saying about the

1271
00:59:38,080 --> 00:59:40,840
Speaker 16: uncertainty and players looking to go overseas because they just

1272
00:59:40,880 --> 00:59:42,640
Speaker 16: don't know what the future is. Last year didn't have

1273
00:59:42,640 --> 00:59:45,080
Speaker 16: a broadcast. You're locked in for this year. Top silver

1274
00:59:45,160 --> 00:59:48,040
Speaker 16: fans start looking at overseas competitions which are better in quality,

1275
00:59:48,120 --> 00:59:49,880
Speaker 16: and go, Actually, you know what, I'm going to make

1276
00:59:49,920 --> 00:59:51,320
Speaker 16: more money. I'm going to be a better player if

1277
00:59:51,320 --> 00:59:53,720
Speaker 16: I go over to Australia or wherever. Wherever. We're seeing

1278
00:59:53,720 --> 00:59:56,680
Speaker 16: the exact same scenario now playing out in New Zealand.

1279
00:59:57,200 --> 01:00:00,520
Speaker 16: We just need a decision. The players just need well.

1280
01:00:00,400 --> 01:00:01,960
Speaker 3: They need to get the Deloitte report and then they

1281
01:00:02,000 --> 01:00:03,360
Speaker 3: need to make the decision. But they need to get

1282
01:00:03,360 --> 01:00:04,720
Speaker 3: it over and done with, like as quickly as they

1283
01:00:04,720 --> 01:00:06,520
Speaker 3: possibly can. Okay, I want you guys to weigh in

1284
01:00:06,640 --> 01:00:08,800
Speaker 3: on this. Listen to this. This is This is Eileen Goo,

1285
01:00:09,200 --> 01:00:12,200
Speaker 3: who's a free skier for the Chinese squad. She's asked

1286
01:00:12,240 --> 01:00:14,880
Speaker 3: a question at a press conference after she's won two golds,

1287
01:00:14,960 --> 01:00:17,480
Speaker 3: making her the most decorated free skier in the world. No,

1288
01:00:17,600 --> 01:00:19,960
Speaker 3: hod on toss Silver's I think, not two golds. That's

1289
01:00:20,000 --> 01:00:22,640
Speaker 3: the reporting half. Thank you, Nathan. Here we go. Do

1290
01:00:22,760 --> 01:00:26,600
Speaker 3: you see these is two silvers gained or two goals lost?

1291
01:00:29,240 --> 01:00:33,840
Speaker 11: The two metals. Last situation to be quite friend with you,

1292
01:00:34,240 --> 01:00:36,720
Speaker 11: I think is kind of a ridiculous perspective to take.

1293
01:00:37,600 --> 01:00:41,320
Speaker 11: I'm showcasing my best skiing. I'm doing things that quite

1294
01:00:41,400 --> 01:00:44,080
Speaker 11: literally have never been done before, and so I think

1295
01:00:44,160 --> 01:00:45,800
Speaker 11: that is more than good enough.

1296
01:00:46,040 --> 01:00:49,040
Speaker 3: So he's getting a bit of a SmackDown for being

1297
01:00:49,120 --> 01:00:51,280
Speaker 3: cheeky with that question, Nathan, I reckon that question was

1298
01:00:51,360 --> 01:00:52,000
Speaker 3: totally legit.

1299
01:00:52,280 --> 01:00:55,080
Speaker 16: Oh it's half Hey, what he's asking is this the

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Speaker 16: glass half full or half empty? That's what he's asking.

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Speaker 16: No top level olympian goes into Olympic, an Olympic final

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Speaker 16: and goes, God, you know, I'd love the silver. I'd

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Speaker 16: really love nothing silver. She's a highly rated athlete, highly

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Speaker 16: decorated athlete. You're telling me she wasn't gunning for the gold,

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Speaker 16: you know. Like, so for me, I find it a

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Speaker 16: bit silly to be going at this guy. I think

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Speaker 16: it's a fair question.

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Speaker 3: I think so too.

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Speaker 24: What do you reckon?

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Speaker 3: They're coops?

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Speaker 24: Get two things for me. Fair question but also fair answer.

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Speaker 24: I loved how she she sort of laughed hysterically at

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Speaker 24: the start of her answer and gave it sort of

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Speaker 24: back to him.

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Speaker 23: But you know, fair question.

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Speaker 24: And you know there's been a debate in our sports

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Speaker 24: news room over the past week, does Zoey Sadowski sin

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Speaker 24: it's silver medals and all the celebrations that have gone

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Speaker 24: with that warrant the coverage and warrant effectively a celebration.

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Speaker 24: You know, there's half the people that might say, well,

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Speaker 24: silver is celebrating the highest loser from an event, but we'll.

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Speaker 3: Expecting gold from her. Weren't we coop?

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Speaker 24: Well, well, we were indeed, yeah, so but then others

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Speaker 24: would say, right, well, in a huge Olympic event, only

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Speaker 24: three people take away a prize, and to be one

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Speaker 24: of those three is actually pretty good. I mean to

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Speaker 24: be honest, I'd be happy with tint in the world Heather,

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Speaker 24: and maybe that's just sitting low standards, but tenth in

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Speaker 24: the world Sport?

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Speaker 3: What sport? Are you going to?

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Speaker 23: Any sport?

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Speaker 24: I would take any?

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Speaker 2: Are you going to.

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Speaker 3: You go for that sport where they have to inject

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Speaker 3: their penises so they can get air? Do you know

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Speaker 3: what what's that one called?

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Speaker 23: Yeah? What that was for?

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Speaker 13: The one of the ski jumping?

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Speaker 3: You haven't thought about it? The ski jumper? Yeah, you're

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Speaker 3: going to go if you had to participate.

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Speaker 13: What would you go?

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Speaker 16: I go curling? It's on all the time. I reckon,

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Speaker 16: you know, get it, get out my broom and do

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Speaker 16: a bit of practicing on the way. Just got to

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Speaker 16: learn to ice.

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Speaker 3: Skate because it's the one that you could do this

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Speaker 3: week forget. Yeah, but with the raw the rambow thing

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Speaker 3: around you.

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Speaker 16: Yeah, exactly. My flatmates would be stoked.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely cool. Okay, Well we'll inter us for next year.

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Speaker 3: We'll see how he goes. Guys, it's been wonderful to

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Speaker 3: check you. Thanks so much, Nathan Lynn and and Adam Cooper.

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Speaker 3: Our sports title this evening eight away from six.

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Speaker 1: It's the Heather Dupless Allen Drive Full Show podcast on

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Speaker 1: my Heart Radio powered by.

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Speaker 13: Newst Heather Our.

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Speaker 3: Zoey has the same number of medals as Eileen Goo

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Speaker 3: and snowboarding Hey you well. Eileen Goo actually is quite

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Speaker 3: controversial if you followed if you followed her rules, she's

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Speaker 3: American born, but she is now a Chinese citizen, and

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Speaker 3: I mean she must be. There's obviously some sort of

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Speaker 3: one of the parents must be Chinese or something like that.

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Speaker 3: And she is a part time model but also very

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Speaker 3: good at what she's doing with the snow sports. And

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Speaker 3: the controversy is about the fact that she's already bloody

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01:03:29,120 --> 01:03:31,480
Speaker 3: loaded because she's you know, she's got endorsements with brands

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Speaker 3: like Red Bull and Portion to Tiffany and stuff like that.

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Speaker 3: But then when she's she shall we say defected? Why

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Speaker 3: not she defected to go and become a Chinese citizen

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Speaker 3: and then start start doing the snow sports for them.

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Speaker 3: She got a whole bunch of money, like millions of

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Speaker 3: dollars in checks from from the sports bureau in Beijing,

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Speaker 3: and that's made everybody just flip and lose their minds

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Speaker 3: over her. Heather, what a load of nonsense. I'm on

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Speaker 3: X and I don't see any sick peek pictures or

1376
01:03:56,600 --> 01:03:59,840
Speaker 3: deep fakes here, the boycotting boycotting Elon, are you going

1377
01:03:59,880 --> 01:04:02,840
Speaker 3: to google next? But listen, I'm not. I haven't got

1378
01:04:02,880 --> 01:04:04,960
Speaker 3: an opinion one way or the other on whether you

1379
01:04:04,960 --> 01:04:07,480
Speaker 3: should get rid of Twitter. I've already got rid of Twitter.

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01:04:07,880 --> 01:04:09,880
Speaker 3: I haven't got time for this crap in my life.

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01:04:10,000 --> 01:04:10,360
Speaker 3: Why do you?

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01:04:10,520 --> 01:04:10,880
Speaker 2: How do you?

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01:04:11,040 --> 01:04:11,600
Speaker 3: What are you doing?

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01:04:11,760 --> 01:04:11,800
Speaker 13: What?

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01:04:12,160 --> 01:04:14,360
Speaker 3: Why are you on there? Anyway? I don't know. So

1386
01:04:14,400 --> 01:04:15,960
Speaker 3: I'm not saying you need to get yourself off it.

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01:04:16,160 --> 01:04:19,320
Speaker 3: I'm just saying, watch people start to bail off because

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01:04:19,360 --> 01:04:21,360
Speaker 3: Elon Musk is not doing enough, and this is going

1389
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Speaker 3: to be the real problem. Like AI, I'm going a

1390
01:04:23,040 --> 01:04:25,080
Speaker 3: problem with AI at all. I love the AI, but

1391
01:04:25,200 --> 01:04:27,200
Speaker 3: the problem with the AI is what it can do

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01:04:27,480 --> 01:04:29,320
Speaker 3: to take your photograph and then turn you into a

1393
01:04:29,400 --> 01:04:32,520
Speaker 3: porno yah. And the problem with the with the Twitter

1394
01:04:32,680 --> 01:04:34,680
Speaker 3: is they're doing it to children. So anyway, just saying,

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Speaker 3: just watch that controversy, it's going to be a thing.

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Speaker 3: Got the Food Fighter tickets today, Happy to tell you

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Speaker 3: two hundred dollars. Now you're going, how did you get

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01:04:42,080 --> 01:04:44,560
Speaker 3: Food Fighter tickets? It's because it was a Spark customer's

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Speaker 3: pre sale, so that's how we got them. But anyway,

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Speaker 3: why I'm telling you this is two hundred dollars for

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01:04:50,800 --> 01:04:53,240
Speaker 3: the Foo Fighters. I think you'd pay it, wouldn't you?

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Speaker 3: You go, yep, I'll pay two hundred dollars for the

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Speaker 3: Foo Fighters. Greatest, Greatest as we as we've absolutely one

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01:04:58,080 --> 01:05:01,360
Speaker 3: hundred percent conclusively established on the show, greatest rock band

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01:05:01,400 --> 01:05:04,280
Speaker 3: of their generation. But this is why I'm just going

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01:05:04,320 --> 01:05:05,800
Speaker 3: to bring you to a point that we made last

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Speaker 3: week on the show. Two hundred dollars for Sublime, which

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01:05:08,720 --> 01:05:10,720
Speaker 3: doesn't even have his lead singer, but the lead singer

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Speaker 3: is basically a tribute band, isn't it. Two hundred dollars

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Speaker 3: for Sublime out at Western Springs versus two hundred dollars

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Speaker 3: for food. Oh, where we are Sublime out west and

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Speaker 3: the Foo fighters are at Western Springs. It's a no brainer.

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Speaker 3: Two hundred dollars for Sublime way too expensive. Let's talk

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Speaker 3: to consumer next.

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Speaker 2: Keeping track of where the money is flowing.

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Speaker 1: Of the Business hour with the head of Duplessy Allen

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Speaker 1: and Mas Insurance and Investments.

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Speaker 2: Your future is in good hands, U storks me.

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Speaker 3: Even in coming up in the next hour Business Canterbury's

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Speaker 3: boss has had lunch with the new Reserve Bank governor.

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01:05:46,960 --> 01:05:49,440
Speaker 3: Will get her take on Anna Breman. After half past

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01:05:49,600 --> 01:05:51,640
Speaker 3: Barry Sober will wrap the political week that was, and

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01:05:51,720 --> 01:05:54,120
Speaker 3: we'll get the latest on Andrew mount Batten Windsor from

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Speaker 3: Gavin Gray. Closer to seven right now at a seven

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Speaker 3: past six Now, as we predicted on this show, the

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Speaker 3: government's done a U turn on its plan to ban

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Speaker 3: credit card charges. The Minister Scott Simpson is still saying

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Speaker 3: he hopes it will be enforced by May, but the

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Speaker 3: factor is the bill is stalled in Parliament. It would

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Speaker 3: have stopped retailers charging for credit, debit and contactless payments.

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Speaker 3: Jessica Walker is Consumer New Zealand's campaign manager. Hi, Jessica, Hey,

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Speaker 3: that I mean, how did do you think this sounds?

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Speaker 17: Where we are a bit concerned? To be honest, we're

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Speaker 17: still hopeful. It's interesting that Minister Simpson is still talking

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Speaker 17: about his hope that this will still come to pass

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Speaker 17: in May, so the bund taking effect from then. But

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Speaker 17: then obviously hearing other murmurs from the likes of Winston

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Speaker 17: Peters and David Seymour, it's not looking great well.

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Speaker 3: I mean if it, I mean, he's obviously dreaming. If

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Speaker 3: if something does happen in May, it would have to

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Speaker 3: be best case scenario. I would have thought a compromise position, right,

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Speaker 3: so something along the lines of, yes, retailers, there can

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Speaker 3: be a ban on retailers or something. If there, I

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01:06:56,680 --> 01:06:59,360
Speaker 3: don't know, there would have to be an alternative, some

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Speaker 3: sort of a compromise. What would a compromise look like

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Speaker 3: that you'd be happy about?

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Speaker 17: From our perspective, it needs regulation. So at the moment

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Speaker 17: there are guidelines. We say the guidelines aren't working because

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Speaker 17: too many search charges are excessive or just not disclosed

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Speaker 17: or unavoidable. So there would need to be some really

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Speaker 17: firm caps in place to stop consumers being ripped off,

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Speaker 17: and there would need to be alternative payment methods so

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Speaker 17: that people have a real way to avoid that. Because

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Speaker 17: right now people say, oh, I could just pay cash

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Speaker 17: or I could just pay f poss Our research shows

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Speaker 17: that actually that's not always the case. In fact, for

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Speaker 17: in ten New Zealander say they think that they have

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Speaker 17: been hit with a surcharge that they couldn't get around.

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Speaker 17: There was no fee free option, and so.

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Speaker 3: How does that even happen?

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Speaker 17: So it might be a business that doesn't take cash.

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Speaker 17: We've even heard of people having to pay seurcharges when

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Speaker 17: they pay on f POS cards. Now that should never happen.

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Speaker 3: So I would come across that. Have you come across it?

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Speaker 17: Not me personally, but we have. We have had examples

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Speaker 17: of it, and more than once into We've got a

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Speaker 17: Playfair in box that we monitor what people tell us

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Speaker 17: about their experiences. So we haven't verified, but we've definitely heard.

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Speaker 3: I just think it sounds like nonsense. I mean, look,

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Speaker 3: I think the most egregious cases of this, Jessica, are

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Speaker 3: we you absolutely like if you're paying a twenty five

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Speaker 3: percent surcharge, which again I've never come across, but that

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Speaker 3: would be outrageous. But would the most egregious cases not be.

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Speaker 3: For example, will you go to pay your parking at

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Speaker 3: a parking media and it's a fifty cents charge when

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Speaker 3: you're only paying for a couple of bucks, and that's ridiculous.

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Speaker 17: Those flat fees are the ones that seem to hit

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Speaker 17: them most people. But you know, on a weekly basis,

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Speaker 17: we're getting complaints of surcharges well above two and a

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Speaker 17: half percent, so that the highest one so far this

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Speaker 17: month has been a three point nine percent. So these

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Speaker 17: are out there and there happening more frequently than you

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Speaker 17: would think.

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Speaker 3: Hasn't that commas Quistion kept it?

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Speaker 17: No, So it's supposed to reflect the cost of the business.

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Speaker 17: But what our argument has been all along is that's

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Speaker 17: not what's happening. In a lot of places. It is,

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Speaker 17: but not everywhere. And so if there is a cap

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Speaker 17: put in place, which we would be on board with,

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Speaker 17: but it would need to be properly policed otherwise this

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Speaker 17: message just going to continue.

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Speaker 3: Well, what was it that the Commerce Commission head, what

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01:09:13,720 --> 01:09:15,880
Speaker 3: was the move that they'd made read search charges if

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Speaker 3: it wasn't a cat.

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Speaker 17: So there's guidelines. So the guidelines are that the cost

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Speaker 17: should reflect what it costs the business, that it needs

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Speaker 17: to be transparent, so at the point of payment you

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Speaker 17: need to see what it's going to cost you and

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Speaker 17: it should be avoidable. So that this is the Commerce

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Speaker 17: Commission's guidelines. Okay, Now our argument is that they're not working.

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Speaker 3: Okay. The thing about it is sure, it's not fair

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Speaker 3: to have to pay the search charges, but nor is

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Speaker 3: it fear for us to lump that messive cost on

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Speaker 3: small retailers around this country.

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Speaker 2: Is it?

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Speaker 17: We acknowledged this. We know it's hard for small businesses,

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01:09:48,120 --> 01:09:50,800
Speaker 17: it's hard for consumers. I think a key piece of

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Speaker 17: information that's missing is that from December last year, cost

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Speaker 17: of businesses were reduced by ninety million dollars because of

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Speaker 17: changes to the way that interchange works, and so we

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Speaker 17: haven't heard of surcharges coming down. If anything, we know

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Speaker 17: that people are still being caught out by these excessive

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Speaker 17: and undisclosed surcharges. So I think that yes, some businesses

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01:10:13,520 --> 01:10:16,040
Speaker 17: might need to put the cost up to enable, you know,

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Speaker 17: to be able to keep going. But in our eyes,

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01:10:19,160 --> 01:10:21,800
Speaker 17: those cost increases should be in the realm of about

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01:10:21,880 --> 01:10:24,800
Speaker 17: one to one and a half percent if they are

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01:10:25,000 --> 01:10:28,040
Speaker 17: just recouping and covering their costs, and if their costs

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01:10:28,080 --> 01:10:30,679
Speaker 17: them more than that than our advice is the businesses

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01:10:30,720 --> 01:10:32,800
Speaker 17: should also be shopping around for a better deal.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, fair point. Hey, as always, Jessica really appreciate you

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01:10:36,040 --> 01:10:39,080
Speaker 3: talking to us. It's Jessica Walker, Consumer New Zealand's campaign manager.

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01:10:40,439 --> 01:10:43,160
Speaker 3: This is what the ComCom said. Jessica's rited as guidelines,

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01:10:43,479 --> 01:10:45,800
Speaker 3: we would expect any search charges to be no more

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01:10:45,880 --> 01:10:49,240
Speaker 3: than zero points seven percent for contactless debit card payments

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01:10:49,840 --> 01:10:51,160
Speaker 3: or one and a half to two percent for the

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01:10:51,200 --> 01:10:53,600
Speaker 3: credit card payments. Many merchants only have one rate, so

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Speaker 3: we consider any searcharge above two percent is hard to justify.

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Speaker 3: Twelve past six killer dupless. Good news for you on

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01:11:00,920 --> 01:11:03,599
Speaker 3: the interest rate front. Westpac is cutting its longer term

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01:11:03,680 --> 01:11:05,720
Speaker 3: home loan rates. They've announced that they're going it. This

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01:11:05,840 --> 01:11:08,000
Speaker 3: is after the Anna Bremen decision, obviously to hold the

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Speaker 3: OC out. This week, they've announced they're going to drop

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Speaker 3: the three year fixed special rate by zero point one

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Speaker 3: six percent, so that's now sitting at four point nine

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Speaker 3: to nine This apparently is the only sub five percent

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01:11:19,360 --> 01:11:22,200
Speaker 3: advertised rate on that term amongst the five biggest banks

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Speaker 3: as of two o'clock this afternoon. West Pax also dropped

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01:11:25,800 --> 01:11:28,320
Speaker 3: the four year and the five year fixed special rates,

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01:11:28,360 --> 01:11:31,080
Speaker 3: four years dropping by zero point two percent to sit

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Speaker 3: at five point one to nine, and five years dropping

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01:11:33,600 --> 01:11:35,920
Speaker 3: by zero point two percent to sit at five point

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01:11:36,000 --> 01:11:38,439
Speaker 3: two nine. So there you go. At least those longer

1544
01:11:38,520 --> 01:11:40,240
Speaker 3: term interst rates are coming back a little bit as well.

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01:11:40,400 --> 01:11:42,920
Speaker 3: Scrap the political week that was next. It's thirteen past six.

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01:11:43,920 --> 01:11:47,360
Speaker 1: It's the Heather Dupericy Allen Drive Full Show podcast on

1547
01:11:47,600 --> 01:11:50,400
Speaker 1: my Heart Radio powered by newstalg ZEBI.

1548
01:11:52,120 --> 01:11:54,479
Speaker 2: Approaching the numbers and getting the results.

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01:11:54,680 --> 01:11:58,000
Speaker 1: It's Heather Duplessy Allen from the Business Hour with mass

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01:11:58,120 --> 01:11:59,440
Speaker 1: insurance and investments.

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01:11:59,600 --> 01:12:03,400
Speaker 2: You're few, just in good hands, used talks, I'd be Yeah.

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01:12:03,479 --> 01:12:05,640
Speaker 3: Today I paid five and a half thousand dollars on

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01:12:05,720 --> 01:12:07,799
Speaker 3: credit card and I got a seventy four dollars surcharge.

1554
01:12:07,840 --> 01:12:10,080
Speaker 3: All right, here's a question for you. Could you have

1555
01:12:10,200 --> 01:12:12,880
Speaker 3: avoided it if you had paid in another way, like

1556
01:12:12,960 --> 01:12:15,080
Speaker 3: if you paid with f boss or if you had

1557
01:12:15,160 --> 01:12:17,280
Speaker 3: paid with the bank transfer, would you have been stung

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01:12:17,360 --> 01:12:19,680
Speaker 3: with the seventy four dollars surcharge nine two nine two

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01:12:19,760 --> 01:12:23,320
Speaker 3: sixteen past six. Barry so Per, senior political correspondent, is

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Speaker 3: wrapping the political week that was Barry, welcome back.

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Speaker 8: Thank you, Heather. Nice to be here write that.

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01:12:28,040 --> 01:12:30,240
Speaker 3: Infrastructure Commission thing. I mean, I feel a bit sorry

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01:12:30,320 --> 01:12:32,479
Speaker 3: for them because they kind of they kind of made

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01:12:32,479 --> 01:12:35,439
Speaker 3: themselves seem ridiculous by proposing a nine dollar toll on

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01:12:35,560 --> 01:12:37,840
Speaker 3: the Harvard Bridge. You know, immediately it was just silly.

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01:12:38,240 --> 01:12:42,639
Speaker 8: Well yeah, what they said was they pondered that figure,

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01:12:42,800 --> 01:12:46,200
Speaker 8: so it wasn't a hard and fast figure. And you know,

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01:12:46,439 --> 01:12:49,519
Speaker 8: really the Auckland Harbor Bridge when it was initially built,

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01:12:49,920 --> 01:12:52,639
Speaker 8: had a toll on it, but it was nothing even

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01:12:53,080 --> 01:12:56,240
Speaker 8: in those days, so nothing compared to what they're now

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01:12:56,400 --> 01:12:59,479
Speaker 8: suggesting that they should pay. And you know, really hard

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01:12:59,520 --> 01:13:03,280
Speaker 8: for nolts people coming across the old bridge having to pay.

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01:13:03,920 --> 01:13:07,920
Speaker 8: You know, we're probably talking nonsense because I don't think

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01:13:08,160 --> 01:13:10,559
Speaker 8: nine dollars would ever come in. And I think any

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01:13:10,640 --> 01:13:14,320
Speaker 8: government that introduced a toll of nine dollars on a

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01:13:14,560 --> 01:13:17,280
Speaker 8: motorist coming across from the north Shore and returning at

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01:13:17,360 --> 01:13:19,599
Speaker 8: night almost twenty bucks a day.

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01:13:19,880 --> 01:13:22,519
Speaker 3: On an asset that we've already paid a toll on

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01:13:22,880 --> 01:13:25,920
Speaker 3: to fund the asset fund one, Yeah, to fund a

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01:13:26,040 --> 01:13:28,799
Speaker 3: new one there is. I just don't think that anyone's

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01:13:28,840 --> 01:13:29,639
Speaker 3: going to think that's okay.

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01:13:29,920 --> 01:13:32,719
Speaker 8: No, I don't think it's hither and including the government.

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01:13:32,800 --> 01:13:35,320
Speaker 8: I'm surprised they haven't really come out and said, look,

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01:13:35,360 --> 01:13:36,800
Speaker 8: it's not not going to be anything like that.

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01:13:37,000 --> 01:13:38,759
Speaker 3: Look, the point of what they were doing was actually

1586
01:13:38,840 --> 01:13:41,360
Speaker 3: to just show us the scale of the problem that

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01:13:41,439 --> 01:13:43,880
Speaker 3: we have. What are you reckons going to come out

1588
01:13:43,920 --> 01:13:46,280
Speaker 3: of this? Because my prediction is that we've gone, oh

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01:13:46,320 --> 01:13:48,120
Speaker 3: thanks very much for that report, and we're fathered on

1590
01:13:48,240 --> 01:13:50,320
Speaker 3: a part of the internet where all the other reports

1591
01:13:50,400 --> 01:13:52,160
Speaker 3: go that we don't read or think about ever again.

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01:13:52,320 --> 01:13:55,720
Speaker 8: Yeah, well you'll remember, you know, the Labor Party and

1593
01:13:56,080 --> 01:13:59,240
Speaker 8: its views on the Auckland Harbor Bridge, spending what fifty

1594
01:13:59,320 --> 01:14:03,360
Speaker 8: million on studies and nothing happened. So you know, I

1595
01:14:03,439 --> 01:14:05,720
Speaker 8: think something will happen. I think you know that when

1596
01:14:05,760 --> 01:14:07,439
Speaker 8: you look at the traffic volume, oh, there will be

1597
01:14:07,479 --> 01:14:12,920
Speaker 8: another crossing, and you know how they're paying for it is,

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01:14:13,200 --> 01:14:17,040
Speaker 8: I guess the big question. But it will undoubtedly be told.

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01:14:17,400 --> 01:14:20,080
Speaker 8: And I think you know, new Zealanders, even though they

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Speaker 8: pay through their petrol attacks for the roads. You know,

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01:14:25,160 --> 01:14:28,400
Speaker 8: when you've got a special road like this, then it's

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01:14:28,400 --> 01:14:29,000
Speaker 8: got to be paid for.

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01:14:29,280 --> 01:14:30,840
Speaker 3: What I mean is okay, cool, Yeah, we're going to

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01:14:30,880 --> 01:14:33,559
Speaker 3: get another crossing in all cliffs. But it also suggested

1605
01:14:33,640 --> 01:14:36,360
Speaker 3: basically doubling the spend on health infrastructure. I don't think

1606
01:14:36,400 --> 01:14:39,759
Speaker 3: that's going to happen. It suggested cutting the spending on roads.

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01:14:39,920 --> 01:14:42,000
Speaker 3: That's not going to happen as no, no, no, it's

1608
01:14:42,040 --> 01:14:44,559
Speaker 3: not no. I was actually thinking though that the eden

1609
01:14:44,640 --> 01:14:46,920
Speaker 3: Park thing is an example of exactly what they're saying

1610
01:14:46,960 --> 01:14:48,960
Speaker 3: we need to do, which is we have an asset,

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01:14:49,360 --> 01:14:52,280
Speaker 3: and they're saying instead of going and building more, actually

1612
01:14:52,320 --> 01:14:54,320
Speaker 3: think about using the asset you've got and how you

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01:14:54,520 --> 01:14:57,479
Speaker 3: use it right, which is loosen the rules, make more

1614
01:14:57,520 --> 01:14:59,599
Speaker 3: out of Eden Park so you don't need another stadium.

1615
01:14:59,760 --> 01:14:59,800
Speaker 2: No.

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01:15:00,320 --> 01:15:04,640
Speaker 8: And it's such an excellent use of that stadium. And

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01:15:04,960 --> 01:15:08,000
Speaker 8: we've been there many many times, and you know, it's

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01:15:08,040 --> 01:15:10,360
Speaker 8: a wonderful stadium. And I take my hat off to

1619
01:15:10,520 --> 01:15:14,760
Speaker 8: Nexcell and I think he is the one person that's

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01:15:14,920 --> 01:15:19,880
Speaker 8: driven that stadium and has been innovative and how he

1621
01:15:20,160 --> 01:15:23,120
Speaker 8: seeds it being used, and you know it's not just

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01:15:23,240 --> 01:15:26,800
Speaker 8: a rugby stadium, even though it's recognized as our number

1623
01:15:26,840 --> 01:15:29,920
Speaker 8: one stadium that you know, it's got the ability to

1624
01:15:30,240 --> 01:15:33,360
Speaker 8: host all sorts of things. In the fact they now

1625
01:15:33,520 --> 01:15:37,719
Speaker 8: can have twelve big concerts a year and twenty smaller

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01:15:37,800 --> 01:15:40,720
Speaker 8: ones on any day of the week. They have to

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01:15:40,800 --> 01:15:42,920
Speaker 8: be closed by I think half past ten. But you

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01:15:43,000 --> 01:15:46,560
Speaker 8: know it's making good use of his facility. That's a

1629
01:15:46,600 --> 01:15:47,240
Speaker 8: wonderful one.

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01:15:47,439 --> 01:15:51,080
Speaker 3: Now on Winston Peter's binding referendum on the Maldi set,

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01:15:51,640 --> 01:15:54,120
Speaker 3: I know he is saying he wants this, but can

1632
01:15:54,200 --> 01:15:57,200
Speaker 3: you foresee any future in which after the election, Chris

1633
01:15:57,280 --> 01:15:59,479
Speaker 3: Luckson goes, Yah, it's a great idea, let's do that. Well,

1634
01:15:59,520 --> 01:16:02,240
Speaker 3: you know, mom Berry, Look I'm saying yes to it.

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01:16:02,520 --> 01:16:06,160
Speaker 8: Well, what once was trying to talk as or talk

1636
01:16:06,520 --> 01:16:12,439
Speaker 8: as partners into is pulling, well pulling his legislation out

1637
01:16:12,479 --> 01:16:14,960
Speaker 8: of the biscuit and sticking it on the order paper

1638
01:16:15,439 --> 01:16:19,360
Speaker 8: and making it become a reality before this selection. No, no,

1639
01:16:19,600 --> 01:16:21,640
Speaker 8: that is not going to happen. I totally agree with that.

1640
01:16:21,760 --> 01:16:25,120
Speaker 8: But look, it's not a preposterous idea when you think

1641
01:16:25,120 --> 01:16:28,080
Speaker 8: about it. That John Key he was going to do

1642
01:16:28,160 --> 01:16:30,880
Speaker 8: it until he decided he had used the Maldi Party

1643
01:16:31,360 --> 01:16:36,800
Speaker 8: under Tarianaturia as an insurance policy quite shrewdly, but so

1644
01:16:36,960 --> 01:16:39,600
Speaker 8: that they backed away from it then. But when you

1645
01:16:39,800 --> 01:16:43,080
Speaker 8: think that the seats were only meant to be in

1646
01:16:43,360 --> 01:16:48,760
Speaker 8: place for five years and in eighteen seventy two they

1647
01:16:48,880 --> 01:16:53,160
Speaker 8: tried to get them scrapped then and there wasn't a mood.

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01:16:52,960 --> 01:16:55,120
Speaker 3: To do it then, and now here we are you're

1649
01:16:55,120 --> 01:16:58,160
Speaker 3: preaching to the quiet fifteen years. I do think they

1650
01:16:58,240 --> 01:17:00,160
Speaker 3: need to be removed for a bunch of ress. But

1651
01:17:00,960 --> 01:17:03,280
Speaker 3: is Chris Luxen, who is the guy who has to

1652
01:17:03,400 --> 01:17:05,879
Speaker 3: agree to it, going to say yes to Winston?

1653
01:17:06,560 --> 01:17:06,600
Speaker 2: No?

1654
01:17:06,840 --> 01:17:11,600
Speaker 8: I have my doubt, although no depends on how influential

1655
01:17:11,680 --> 01:17:13,439
Speaker 8: Winston is in the next government.

1656
01:17:14,080 --> 01:17:16,360
Speaker 3: This is true, he might he might have to say.

1657
01:17:16,439 --> 01:17:20,519
Speaker 3: Bottom line here maybe Barry, Thanks very much, Barry Soper,

1658
01:17:20,560 --> 01:17:23,160
Speaker 3: Senior political correspondent, Rapping the political week that was actually

1659
01:17:23,200 --> 01:17:25,000
Speaker 3: on the subject of Chris Luxe and let's talk about

1660
01:17:25,080 --> 01:17:27,479
Speaker 3: him and his social media next six twenty one.

1661
01:17:28,320 --> 01:17:31,320
Speaker 2: Whether it's macro micro or just plain economics.

1662
01:17:31,360 --> 01:17:34,280
Speaker 1: It's all on the Business Hour with hand the duper

1663
01:17:34,360 --> 01:17:37,000
Speaker 1: Sillen and mas insurance and investments.

1664
01:17:37,240 --> 01:17:39,000
Speaker 2: Your futures in good hands.

1665
01:17:39,240 --> 01:17:42,880
Speaker 3: News talksby here that the King knew about his brother's

1666
01:17:42,920 --> 01:17:45,799
Speaker 3: impending arrest long before the police turned up. That's from Pauline.

1667
01:17:45,800 --> 01:17:47,200
Speaker 3: Do you know what, I one hundred percent believe that

1668
01:17:47,520 --> 01:17:50,519
Speaker 3: the official story is that the King wasn't alerted. I

1669
01:17:50,640 --> 01:17:52,519
Speaker 3: call BS on that. And the reason I call BS

1670
01:17:52,600 --> 01:17:57,479
Speaker 3: on that is because what's his name now? John Sopl,

1671
01:17:57,840 --> 01:18:00,479
Speaker 3: who's on LBC in the UK, was on a podcast

1672
01:18:00,560 --> 01:18:02,960
Speaker 3: this morning saying he'd actually heard about the arrest earlier

1673
01:18:03,000 --> 01:18:05,439
Speaker 3: this week. Now, if John Sopl of LBC has heard

1674
01:18:05,479 --> 01:18:08,320
Speaker 3: about it earlier this week, King Charles of Sandringham has

1675
01:18:08,400 --> 01:18:09,840
Speaker 3: heard it about it earlier this week, do you know

1676
01:18:09,920 --> 01:18:12,360
Speaker 3: what I'm saying? So maybe he didn't know exactly when,

1677
01:18:12,600 --> 01:18:15,320
Speaker 3: but he knew it was going to happen anyway. I've

1678
01:18:15,360 --> 01:18:18,839
Speaker 3: got to deal with this. Finally, Finally someone has addressed

1679
01:18:18,880 --> 01:18:21,320
Speaker 3: the thing that's been bugging me, which is the question

1680
01:18:21,520 --> 01:18:24,320
Speaker 3: of why people hate the Prime Minister as much as

1681
01:18:24,320 --> 01:18:25,560
Speaker 3: they do. I mean, I get if you sort of

1682
01:18:25,600 --> 01:18:28,720
Speaker 3: like blur, I don't really you know, unfavorable rather than

1683
01:18:28,800 --> 01:18:32,360
Speaker 3: favorable opinion that I understand, but the level of hatred

1684
01:18:32,520 --> 01:18:35,160
Speaker 3: is just quite Unhinged Newsroom took a look at his

1685
01:18:35,240 --> 01:18:37,920
Speaker 3: social media and has written a piece about it. The

1686
01:18:38,000 --> 01:18:40,960
Speaker 3: piece is basically says across some of the prime Minister's

1687
01:18:41,000 --> 01:18:43,439
Speaker 3: been busy on social media and he's been inundated with

1688
01:18:43,560 --> 01:18:46,920
Speaker 3: personalized negativity and reply, why does he provoke such a

1689
01:18:46,960 --> 01:18:52,200
Speaker 3: strong reaction? The comments are disproportionately brutal, personal mocking and dismissive.

1690
01:18:52,240 --> 01:18:55,160
Speaker 3: And then that provides some examples. In one video, He's

1691
01:18:55,240 --> 01:18:57,920
Speaker 3: just it's an innocuous account of visiting a school with

1692
01:18:57,960 --> 01:19:01,479
Speaker 3: a video of him high fiving kids two thousand plus

1693
01:19:01,640 --> 01:19:05,360
Speaker 3: responses including creep goes for a walk. Numerous others focused

1694
01:19:05,400 --> 01:19:08,439
Speaker 3: on him being a bald, a humpty, on him being baled,

1695
01:19:08,720 --> 01:19:11,240
Speaker 3: being a humpty dumpy, but a dumpty being the fat

1696
01:19:11,280 --> 01:19:14,080
Speaker 3: controller from Thomas the Tank Engine, of bribing the kids

1697
01:19:14,120 --> 01:19:16,880
Speaker 3: with lollies, of him needing security guards to mix with

1698
01:19:16,920 --> 01:19:19,400
Speaker 3: school kids. One post, I hope the kids had spat

1699
01:19:19,479 --> 01:19:22,320
Speaker 3: on their own hands before high fiving. It turned darker

1700
01:19:22,360 --> 01:19:24,719
Speaker 3: when numerous people said the kids should have slapped kicked

1701
01:19:24,720 --> 01:19:25,519
Speaker 3: in high five to his.

1702
01:19:25,560 --> 01:19:26,439
Speaker 2: For for it.

1703
01:19:28,560 --> 01:19:31,680
Speaker 3: Anyway, I don't understand. I mean, I could go through

1704
01:19:31,800 --> 01:19:34,600
Speaker 3: screens of examples because newsrooms compiled them for us. I

1705
01:19:34,640 --> 01:19:36,640
Speaker 3: don't understand why people hate him so much. I mean,

1706
01:19:36,960 --> 01:19:39,160
Speaker 3: and the article doesn't actually answer it. It sort of

1707
01:19:39,240 --> 01:19:43,080
Speaker 3: hints it in authenticity, which is possible, but man alive,

1708
01:19:43,240 --> 01:19:45,800
Speaker 3: it's a bit full on and I hope he's not

1709
01:19:45,880 --> 01:19:46,639
Speaker 3: reading the comments.

1710
01:19:46,680 --> 01:19:50,719
Speaker 2: Six twenty six, There's no business like show business.

1711
01:19:52,360 --> 01:19:55,000
Speaker 3: Spent seven years since the Game of Throne series ended.

1712
01:19:55,120 --> 01:19:57,400
Speaker 3: Many fans hated it and said they had no further

1713
01:19:57,479 --> 01:19:59,479
Speaker 3: interest in anything to do with it, but apparently time

1714
01:19:59,560 --> 01:20:02,920
Speaker 3: hel wounds. On Monday, the season finale of Game of

1715
01:20:03,000 --> 01:20:05,880
Speaker 3: Thrones is spin off A Night of Seven Kingdoms will air.

1716
01:20:06,560 --> 01:20:09,479
Speaker 3: HBO has released the viewers the viewer numbers for the shows.

1717
01:20:09,800 --> 01:20:12,920
Speaker 3: Thirteen million people are tuning into HBO Max every week

1718
01:20:13,000 --> 01:20:15,519
Speaker 3: to watch this new show. That makes it the third

1719
01:20:15,560 --> 01:20:19,439
Speaker 3: biggest debut debut in the streaming service's history. And by

1720
01:20:19,520 --> 01:20:21,840
Speaker 3: the way, it's one million more viewers a week than

1721
01:20:21,880 --> 01:20:24,519
Speaker 3: the Pit gets and the Pit is great. Even though

1722
01:20:24,560 --> 01:20:26,719
Speaker 3: the show is wrapping up its first season, there's another

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Speaker 3: spin off, House of the Dragon, which is about to

1724
01:20:28,680 --> 01:20:30,720
Speaker 3: return for what is set to be the biggest season yet.

1725
01:20:30,880 --> 01:20:33,040
Speaker 3: Because they've dropped a little fiery look at season three

1726
01:20:33,120 --> 01:20:35,280
Speaker 3: today and mean it means fans don't have to wait

1727
01:20:35,439 --> 01:20:36,000
Speaker 3: much longer.

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01:20:36,960 --> 01:20:43,040
Speaker 2: You are a queen of druggles. You have the absolute

1729
01:20:43,320 --> 01:20:44,439
Speaker 2: power within your grasp.

1730
01:20:52,040 --> 01:20:54,720
Speaker 3: Soon or late Renau will send her new drugon's head.

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01:20:55,960 --> 01:20:56,720
Speaker 2: It would be the end.

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01:20:57,360 --> 01:20:59,559
Speaker 3: Apparently. I mean you could hear all the swords clinging

1733
01:20:59,640 --> 01:21:02,160
Speaker 3: and stay and stuff, couldn't you. Apparently this is the

1734
01:21:02,200 --> 01:21:04,080
Speaker 3: one that the fans of the books have been waiting

1735
01:21:04,240 --> 01:21:08,320
Speaker 3: years for because of all the swords and clanging and

1736
01:21:08,439 --> 01:21:10,639
Speaker 3: stabbing sounds and stuff. There's gonna be a whole bunch

1737
01:21:10,680 --> 01:21:14,400
Speaker 3: of dragon on dragon battles, lots of fights. They're really excited.

1738
01:21:14,800 --> 01:21:17,360
Speaker 3: House of the Dragon's not going to return until June,

1739
01:21:17,960 --> 01:21:20,960
Speaker 3: so you have plenty of time for yourself to be

1740
01:21:21,040 --> 01:21:23,840
Speaker 3: able to catch up on the previous two seasons. Or

1741
01:21:25,120 --> 01:21:27,519
Speaker 3: you could watch the Pit. I'm not suggesting you should

1742
01:21:27,520 --> 01:21:29,000
Speaker 3: watch the Pit. I'm just saying that there are some

1743
01:21:29,160 --> 01:21:31,640
Speaker 3: fans who are disappointed and would suggest maybe you know,

1744
01:21:31,720 --> 01:21:34,240
Speaker 3: I'm not that fan, but I'm just saying some people

1745
01:21:34,280 --> 01:21:37,920
Speaker 3: out there stittitution but hears, Yeah, you should watch the

1746
01:21:38,000 --> 01:21:40,080
Speaker 3: Pit instead. Apparently. Do you want me to read you

1747
01:21:40,160 --> 01:21:43,639
Speaker 3: more later of what they've said? About Chris Luxen because

1748
01:21:43,840 --> 01:21:46,240
Speaker 3: the comments about his gum boots are pretty full on

1749
01:21:46,320 --> 01:21:47,960
Speaker 3: and quite funny as well. I might read you that.

1750
01:21:48,280 --> 01:21:50,800
Speaker 3: But first we're going to go to Leanne Watson, Boss

1751
01:21:50,840 --> 01:21:53,000
Speaker 3: of Business Canterbury, on what she made of the new

1752
01:21:53,040 --> 01:21:54,959
Speaker 3: Reserve Bank governor newstig ZB.

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01:22:08,439 --> 01:22:12,240
Speaker 1: Everything from SMEs to the big corporates, the Business Hour

1754
01:22:12,439 --> 01:22:16,040
Speaker 1: with Header Duper c Allen and mass insurance and investments,

1755
01:22:16,280 --> 01:22:20,240
Speaker 1: your futures in good hands, used talks'd be it love?

1756
01:22:21,640 --> 01:22:25,960
Speaker 3: Everybody hated just a little. On the day of his

1757
01:22:26,120 --> 01:22:30,240
Speaker 3: brother's arrest. What was the king doing front Row Fashion

1758
01:22:30,800 --> 01:22:33,760
Speaker 3: London and it's not here. I think it's probably a

1759
01:22:33,840 --> 01:22:35,720
Speaker 3: high risk move, but on balance I think he got

1760
01:22:35,760 --> 01:22:37,800
Speaker 3: it right because what it showed was show has to

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01:22:37,880 --> 01:22:39,160
Speaker 3: go on and I'm going to keep on doing the

1762
01:22:39,200 --> 01:22:40,960
Speaker 3: stuff I'm supposed to do. But Gavin Gray will make

1763
01:22:40,960 --> 01:22:43,000
Speaker 3: a call when he's with us in ten minutes time.

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01:22:43,040 --> 01:22:45,320
Speaker 3: Right now, it's twenty four away from seven, So the

1765
01:22:45,520 --> 01:22:47,800
Speaker 3: Reserve Bank Governor Anna Bremen's doing a tour of the

1766
01:22:47,840 --> 01:22:51,479
Speaker 3: country is part of a outreach program. On the tour

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01:22:51,760 --> 01:22:54,040
Speaker 3: was a lunch with business leaders in christ Church. Today

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01:22:54,080 --> 01:22:56,800
Speaker 3: now Business Canterbury hosted this lunch. The chief executive Leanne

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01:22:56,800 --> 01:22:59,920
Speaker 3: Watson is with us now Hilly Anne Hi Heather. The

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01:23:00,040 --> 01:23:01,479
Speaker 3: subject of her speech was inflation.

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Speaker 11: Was it.

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Speaker 12: Well, it was really just to give us a good

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01:23:05,400 --> 01:23:07,400
Speaker 12: update and I guess to provide a little bit of

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01:23:07,520 --> 01:23:10,720
Speaker 12: certainty for the businesses in the room who have been

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01:23:10,800 --> 01:23:13,679
Speaker 12: concerned about some of the timelines around o CR rises

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01:23:13,800 --> 01:23:16,599
Speaker 12: with the markets and some banks expecting a rise later

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01:23:16,680 --> 01:23:18,760
Speaker 12: in the year. So, you know, she certainly gave a

1778
01:23:18,800 --> 01:23:21,760
Speaker 12: good update. It was great to hear her talk about

1779
01:23:21,840 --> 01:23:24,760
Speaker 12: core inflations tracking down, even though the headline inflation number

1780
01:23:24,800 --> 01:23:27,479
Speaker 12: is higher than what they're comfortable was. But overall, I

1781
01:23:27,520 --> 01:23:31,479
Speaker 12: think businesses left feeling more confident after her address today,

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01:23:31,520 --> 01:23:32,000
Speaker 12: which is great.

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01:23:32,080 --> 01:23:32,280
Speaker 19: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Is it also the case that she told businesses not

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01:23:34,720 --> 01:23:36,879
Speaker 3: to jack up prices? Basically?

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01:23:38,200 --> 01:23:39,439
Speaker 12: Sorry? He do you just cut out there?

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01:23:39,479 --> 01:23:39,800
Speaker 8: What was that?

1788
01:23:40,040 --> 01:23:42,280
Speaker 3: Did she also warn the businesses in the room against

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01:23:42,360 --> 01:23:43,160
Speaker 3: hiking prices?

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01:23:44,600 --> 01:23:47,080
Speaker 12: Look, she certainly indicated that there are a lot of

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01:23:47,160 --> 01:23:51,960
Speaker 12: factors that can contribute obviously to you know, further inflation growth,

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01:23:52,439 --> 01:23:54,840
Speaker 12: and there was definitely a mention that you know, we

1793
01:23:54,920 --> 01:23:58,240
Speaker 12: need to be aware that if businesses jump to hiking

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01:23:58,320 --> 01:24:00,760
Speaker 12: up their prices then that may play part so as

1795
01:24:00,800 --> 01:24:03,960
Speaker 12: a balancing act. But what was really good to hear

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01:24:04,120 --> 01:24:06,400
Speaker 12: also was that the Reserve Banker is taking more of

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01:24:06,439 --> 01:24:09,680
Speaker 12: a forward looking approach and focusing on the future rather

1798
01:24:09,800 --> 01:24:13,360
Speaker 12: than being reactive. You know, what we're looking for is

1799
01:24:13,840 --> 01:24:17,360
Speaker 12: you know, low in stable interest rates, higher consumer confidence

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01:24:17,400 --> 01:24:19,559
Speaker 12: and a growing economy. That they are all the things

1801
01:24:19,560 --> 01:24:21,880
Speaker 12: that the business community are looking for. And I think

1802
01:24:21,920 --> 01:24:25,240
Speaker 12: today they got some hope that under her new leadership,

1803
01:24:25,600 --> 01:24:27,439
Speaker 12: we're going to be starting to track in that direction.

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01:24:27,640 --> 01:24:29,840
Speaker 12: So fingers crossed, Yeah, do.

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01:24:29,880 --> 01:24:32,559
Speaker 3: You think that there are peculiarities in the New Zealand

1806
01:24:32,600 --> 01:24:34,640
Speaker 3: economy that she will have to acquaint to herself with

1807
01:24:34,760 --> 01:24:36,360
Speaker 3: in order to understand us completely.

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01:24:37,960 --> 01:24:40,519
Speaker 12: Oh, look, she seemed to have a pretty good you

1809
01:24:40,600 --> 01:24:43,160
Speaker 12: know understanding in the short space that she has been here.

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01:24:43,560 --> 01:24:46,719
Speaker 12: You know, she talked a lot about the different sectors

1811
01:24:46,720 --> 01:24:50,240
Speaker 12: across the country. She certainly knew about the all blacks.

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Speaker 7: That's a good start.

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Speaker 12: So look, I think she you know, she's done a

1814
01:24:53,520 --> 01:24:56,040
Speaker 12: great job of you know, getting up to speed pretty quickly.

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01:24:57,000 --> 01:24:59,720
Speaker 12: She knew a lot about Canterbury. She knew, you know,

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Speaker 12: we Canterbury are up to obviously, We've got wind in

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01:25:02,640 --> 01:25:05,000
Speaker 12: our sales right now, particularly in Canterbury, and we can't

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01:25:05,000 --> 01:25:06,960
Speaker 12: afford to lose it right now when we're starting to

1819
01:25:07,040 --> 01:25:11,000
Speaker 12: really finally see business confidence translate into sales and growth. So,

1820
01:25:11,160 --> 01:25:15,000
Speaker 12: you know, keeping inflation down low is absolutely critical for

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01:25:15,120 --> 01:25:16,760
Speaker 12: the future, and I think she, you know, she took

1822
01:25:16,800 --> 01:25:19,559
Speaker 12: that message away and as I say, the business community

1823
01:25:19,560 --> 01:25:22,519
Speaker 12: were feeling pretty confident and just I guess a little

1824
01:25:22,680 --> 01:25:25,760
Speaker 12: more clear around some of the future direction thinking of

1825
01:25:25,880 --> 01:25:29,880
Speaker 12: the Reserve Bank governor and also just I guess seeking

1826
01:25:29,960 --> 01:25:32,280
Speaker 12: that stability and that certainty as much as what we.

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Speaker 3: Can strikes me as pretty straight up and down. What

1828
01:25:35,000 --> 01:25:35,720
Speaker 3: did you make of her?

1829
01:25:37,080 --> 01:25:37,439
Speaker 2: Very much?

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Speaker 12: So, I think, you know that she really resonated with

1831
01:25:41,720 --> 01:25:45,679
Speaker 12: the audience. A lot of positive feedback around her genuinely

1832
01:25:45,720 --> 01:25:49,360
Speaker 12: wanting to understand, you know, the New Zealand economy, the

1833
01:25:49,439 --> 01:25:53,240
Speaker 12: regional economy in Canterbury, and very relatable. That was sort

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01:25:53,240 --> 01:25:56,280
Speaker 12: of some of the key messages, very relatable down to earth,

1835
01:25:57,280 --> 01:25:59,960
Speaker 12: you know, to what you know can be a complex

1836
01:26:00,280 --> 01:26:03,360
Speaker 12: subject into something that everyone in the understood. Everyone in

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01:26:03,400 --> 01:26:05,879
Speaker 12: the audience got some really good insights and understood.

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Speaker 3: Did she laugh at any point?

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01:26:09,080 --> 01:26:10,920
Speaker 12: She did yeah, we had a lot of laughs. Actually,

1840
01:26:11,320 --> 01:26:13,519
Speaker 12: I'm sure it was my m scene ability as well,

1841
01:26:13,560 --> 01:26:14,120
Speaker 12: of course, Heather.

1842
01:26:14,160 --> 01:26:19,479
Speaker 3: But yeah, that's what i've heard. Good on you mate, listen,

1843
01:26:19,520 --> 01:26:21,280
Speaker 3: Thank you very much, really appreciate it. Go and enjoy

1844
01:26:21,280 --> 01:26:24,880
Speaker 3: your weekend. Leanne Watson, the Business Canterbury boss who hosted

1845
01:26:24,920 --> 01:26:28,360
Speaker 3: the Lunes Twitty Away from seven. Heather Allen, Oh, I

1846
01:26:28,400 --> 01:26:31,479
Speaker 3: should update actually JB's question about whether Fonterra would be

1847
01:26:31,520 --> 01:26:33,880
Speaker 3: lifting the farm gate milk price forecast. He was on

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01:26:33,920 --> 01:26:35,080
Speaker 3: the show, you said, he said, when are they going

1849
01:26:35,160 --> 01:26:35,320
Speaker 3: to do it?

1850
01:26:35,360 --> 01:26:35,479
Speaker 2: All?

1851
01:26:35,479 --> 01:26:38,640
Speaker 3: The answer is today because of the series of good

1852
01:26:38,720 --> 01:26:41,519
Speaker 3: GDT auctions. So this morning they raised the farm the

1853
01:26:41,560 --> 01:26:44,760
Speaker 3: forecast farm gate milk price midpoint from nine dollars to

1854
01:26:44,880 --> 01:26:47,280
Speaker 3: nine dollars fifty. But Myles Harrell has warned it's still

1855
01:26:47,360 --> 01:26:50,320
Speaker 3: pretty volatile out there, so you know, maybe he's preparing

1856
01:26:50,400 --> 01:26:51,519
Speaker 3: us for a little bit of ups and a little

1857
01:26:51,520 --> 01:26:53,519
Speaker 3: bit of downs right here we go. So there was

1858
01:26:53,560 --> 01:26:57,360
Speaker 3: a photo there's a photo on the Prime Minister's Facebook

1859
01:26:57,439 --> 01:27:00,400
Speaker 3: social media whichever one Facebook, Instagram, I'm not sure of

1860
01:27:00,520 --> 01:27:02,920
Speaker 3: him sitting in a suit wearing a pair of red

1861
01:27:03,000 --> 01:27:06,840
Speaker 3: bands on a wall at his house. It's a low wall.

1862
01:27:07,479 --> 01:27:09,760
Speaker 3: The comments go along the lines of humpty sitting on

1863
01:27:09,840 --> 01:27:11,920
Speaker 3: a wall? Someone got you to sit on a wall,

1864
01:27:12,000 --> 01:27:15,920
Speaker 3: brilliant cone head movie vibes, the size of his feet,

1865
01:27:16,360 --> 01:27:20,000
Speaker 3: the softness of his hands, charming asides like fence sitting, gutless,

1866
01:27:20,040 --> 01:27:23,519
Speaker 3: wonder Fred Egg, new gum boots, new Rolex doing it tough.

1867
01:27:24,320 --> 01:27:27,280
Speaker 3: People said, you're only wearing them for the photo. Well, obviously,

1868
01:27:27,640 --> 01:27:30,720
Speaker 3: I mean, does he look like a farmer? He works

1869
01:27:30,760 --> 01:27:33,240
Speaker 3: in an office and lives in like remi Weer or something.

1870
01:27:33,280 --> 01:27:35,559
Speaker 3: Of course he's just wearing them for the photo. Surprised

1871
01:27:35,600 --> 01:27:37,600
Speaker 3: he didn't put plastic on the wall before sitting on

1872
01:27:37,680 --> 01:27:41,360
Speaker 3: it cosplay being a real person? How vastly amusing? Tell

1873
01:27:41,479 --> 01:27:43,479
Speaker 3: us without telling us you've never worked a physical job

1874
01:27:43,520 --> 01:27:46,400
Speaker 3: in your life. Loll, take those off, you fasad. Stop

1875
01:27:46,479 --> 01:27:48,960
Speaker 3: insulting the boots, mate, get them off. Don't you ever

1876
01:27:49,000 --> 01:27:49,679
Speaker 3: wear those again?

1877
01:27:50,080 --> 01:27:50,240
Speaker 5: Now?

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01:27:50,320 --> 01:27:53,840
Speaker 3: Honestly, if you listen, does that sound slightly unhinged? I

1879
01:27:53,920 --> 01:27:58,519
Speaker 3: feel like it's slightly unhinged, and I still yeah, you

1880
01:27:58,600 --> 01:28:01,200
Speaker 3: can ask the guys who I work. I've been asking

1881
01:28:01,280 --> 01:28:03,080
Speaker 3: this for a couple of weeks now. Why people are

1882
01:28:03,479 --> 01:28:06,160
Speaker 3: quite this mental about the Prime Minister. I still feel

1883
01:28:06,240 --> 01:28:09,519
Speaker 3: unsatisfied after reading the newsroom dot co dot in z article,

1884
01:28:09,560 --> 01:28:11,639
Speaker 3: but I've spent some time thinking about it, and I'm

1885
01:28:11,680 --> 01:28:13,479
Speaker 3: sure at some stage in the near future will be

1886
01:28:13,520 --> 01:28:15,639
Speaker 3: able to answer this question just why people go so nuts?

1887
01:28:15,680 --> 01:28:17,880
Speaker 3: So Adam eighteen away from seven. Gavin Gray is with

1888
01:28:17,960 --> 01:28:19,559
Speaker 3: us next, We're going to talk about Andrew.

1889
01:28:20,439 --> 01:28:23,120
Speaker 1: If it's to do with money, it matters to you

1890
01:28:23,600 --> 01:28:27,680
Speaker 1: The Business Hour with Heather Dupericy Allen and Maya's insurance

1891
01:28:27,720 --> 01:28:32,000
Speaker 1: and investments on your futures in good Heads News Talks, it'd.

1892
01:28:31,920 --> 01:28:34,120
Speaker 3: Be right's coming up quarter to seven with us now,

1893
01:28:34,280 --> 01:28:38,360
Speaker 3: Gavin Gray are UK correspondent. Hello, Gavin. How much of

1894
01:28:38,400 --> 01:28:40,120
Speaker 3: a crisis is this for the royal family?

1895
01:28:41,520 --> 01:28:41,880
Speaker 2: Massive?

1896
01:28:42,120 --> 01:28:42,479
Speaker 13: Massive?

1897
01:28:43,000 --> 01:28:45,720
Speaker 18: I think that King Charles, who of course waited so

1898
01:28:45,920 --> 01:28:49,720
Speaker 18: long to accede to the throne, really faces his entire

1899
01:28:49,880 --> 01:28:53,880
Speaker 18: rain now being overshadowed by his younger brother and this

1900
01:28:54,080 --> 01:28:55,720
Speaker 18: is not going to happen and there will be no

1901
01:28:55,880 --> 01:28:59,000
Speaker 18: decisions made very quickly. This isn't about anything to do

1902
01:28:59,160 --> 01:29:02,639
Speaker 18: with when in and allegations of sexual assault or rape

1903
01:29:02,720 --> 01:29:05,640
Speaker 18: or whatever. This is to do with the fact that

1904
01:29:06,200 --> 01:29:10,160
Speaker 18: Andrew is alleged to have given documents that were secret

1905
01:29:10,640 --> 01:29:15,000
Speaker 18: to Jeffrey Epstein and Jeffrey Obstein therefore was able to

1906
01:29:15,439 --> 01:29:18,440
Speaker 18: tell people in the right places what was in these documents,

1907
01:29:18,560 --> 01:29:21,680
Speaker 18: knowing that they were yet to be announced. So in particular,

1908
01:29:21,840 --> 01:29:26,920
Speaker 18: we believe Andrew went on a government funded trip to

1909
01:29:27,080 --> 01:29:31,120
Speaker 18: Asia in November twenty ten, was sent a series of

1910
01:29:31,280 --> 01:29:34,920
Speaker 18: reports about the countries he was visiting relating to his trips.

1911
01:29:34,960 --> 01:29:38,120
Speaker 18: They were confidential, and within five minutes of receiving them

1912
01:29:38,400 --> 01:29:42,240
Speaker 18: he is apparently has forwarded them to Jeffrey Epstein that

1913
01:29:42,640 --> 01:29:45,639
Speaker 18: at that point Epstein had already been convicted and spent

1914
01:29:45,760 --> 01:29:49,759
Speaker 18: time in prison for sex offenses. On another occasion, Andrew

1915
01:29:49,880 --> 01:29:53,439
Speaker 18: was privy to documents about the investment opportunities in the

1916
01:29:53,520 --> 01:29:57,920
Speaker 18: reconstruction of Hellman Province Afghanistan, if you remember, that was

1917
01:29:57,960 --> 01:30:00,719
Speaker 18: the province overseen at the time by British armed forces.

1918
01:30:01,320 --> 01:30:03,680
Speaker 18: They were going to fund the government here was going

1919
01:30:03,760 --> 01:30:08,680
Speaker 18: to fund reconstruction, and it appears that he forwarded that

1920
01:30:09,240 --> 01:30:13,400
Speaker 18: email to Jeffrey Epstein. Now Andrew denies any wrongdoing, Heather,

1921
01:30:13,800 --> 01:30:16,600
Speaker 18: but things are stacking up and there are six or

1922
01:30:16,760 --> 01:30:21,280
Speaker 18: more police services here in the UK, all investigating things

1923
01:30:21,360 --> 01:30:24,599
Speaker 18: relating to Epstein. How many of them will involve Andrew.

1924
01:30:24,720 --> 01:30:25,519
Speaker 18: We wait to find out.

1925
01:30:25,720 --> 01:30:26,519
Speaker 3: So where's Ferdie?

1926
01:30:28,280 --> 01:30:33,400
Speaker 18: Completely disappeared, as have the children, Princesses Eugenie and Beatrice.

1927
01:30:33,920 --> 01:30:37,920
Speaker 18: We believe that Sarah Ferguson, Andrew's ex wife, is in

1928
01:30:38,080 --> 01:30:42,680
Speaker 18: the Middle East. Apparently she's telling friends she is penniless

1929
01:30:42,760 --> 01:30:45,360
Speaker 18: and needs something to do to earn some money. Well,

1930
01:30:46,160 --> 01:30:48,600
Speaker 18: everyone seems to be keeping her at arm's length. I

1931
01:30:48,760 --> 01:30:51,280
Speaker 18: dare say she's gone there, but probably to see friends.

1932
01:30:51,360 --> 01:30:54,760
Speaker 18: She does have a sibling as well, but yeah, it

1933
01:30:54,800 --> 01:30:56,200
Speaker 18: looks like they're out in the cold.

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Speaker 13: And a rumor circulating heather.

1935
01:30:58,360 --> 01:31:04,400
Speaker 18: Only, a rumor that Prince William and Princess Kate are thinking, actually,

1936
01:31:04,439 --> 01:31:06,640
Speaker 18: do you know what, The whole family needs to be

1937
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Speaker 18: cut away, The whole of Prince Andrew, as was his family,

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Speaker 18: needs to be cut away from the future of the monarchy.

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Speaker 18: That may resonate with the king. What the King is

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Speaker 18: desperately trying to do is to say, yes, we are

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Speaker 18: in a family, but we also are the monarchy, and

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Speaker 18: they are two separate things. The monarchy will continue to

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Speaker 18: carry out engagements and to serve the country family well

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Speaker 18: you can't choose your relatives sort of thing.

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Speaker 13: But how successfully it will be I don't know.

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Speaker 3: Do you think the King did the right thing by

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Speaker 3: sitting at the front row of the fashion Week.

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Speaker 18: I think it would have been really tempting for him

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Speaker 18: and Camilla. Yesterday Queen camella to say we are not

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Speaker 18: doing any engagements because of what's going on. But I

1951
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Speaker 18: think they wanted to show that it's business as usual.

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Speaker 18: I know business seems a funny word to use, but

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Speaker 18: you know, it was Prince Philip who described the Royal

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Speaker 18: family as the firm, and I think he thought I've

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Speaker 18: got to be seen, and to be honest, it did

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Speaker 18: show he was out there. He didn't obviously respond to

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Speaker 18: any questions. But just like the last few official engagements, he's.

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Speaker 13: Gone on Heather.

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Speaker 18: As he's got out of the car, as he's got

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Speaker 18: back into the car, people have shouted at him.

1961
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Speaker 13: They've shouted things like, what did you know about Andrew?

1962
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Speaker 13: What do you think of his arrest?

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Speaker 18: It was yesterday and that is so detrimental to what

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Speaker 18: the royal stand for, and of course that it remains

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Speaker 18: to be seen what this does to the support for

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Speaker 18: the Royal family, for people in the UK, but not

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Speaker 18: just that. Also, almost more importantly, there's the support that

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Speaker 18: they have in the Commonwealth countries.

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Speaker 3: Now, why is it that the UK said to Trump, no,

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Speaker 3: you cannot use the air bases.

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Speaker 18: Well, I don't know, but it's really annoyed Donald Trump. So,

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Speaker 18: as we know, widely rumored there's going to be some

1973
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Speaker 18: kind of action against Iran and hasn't been specified yet,

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Speaker 18: but it keeps being threatened. And to do that, to

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Speaker 18: launch that will require air strikes. And it is thought

1976
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Speaker 18: that Donald Trump is lining up a British air base

1977
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Speaker 18: called Diego Garcia and that is part of the Chagos

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Speaker 18: Islands near Mauritius, and also wanted to use an air

1979
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Speaker 18: Force base in Gloucestershire, which is in the west of England.

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Speaker 18: Now it's being reported that Sekir Starmer said, hmm, actually, no,

1981
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Speaker 18: we don't want you using those bases, and we're going

1982
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Speaker 18: to deny you permission to use flights in and out

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Speaker 18: of them. Now, some would say, well, good because that

1984
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Speaker 18: will protect us from any feedback and any retribution that

1985
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Speaker 18: Iran might be plotting.

1986
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Speaker 13: Others are saying, no, you know, we've got to support America.

1987
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Speaker 13: We're in this together. Sort of thing.

1988
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Speaker 18: We've been in it together over Islamic state and so forth.

1989
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Speaker 18: But apparently Donald Trump absolutely furious at Sekre Starma, the

1990
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Speaker 18: Prime Minister's reaction, and that's apparently why he turned around

1991
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Speaker 18: yesterday and once again flip flopped on his opinion of

1992
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Speaker 18: this deal that the UK has struck with Mauritius over

1993
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Speaker 18: the future of the Chacos Islands.

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Speaker 3: Interesting, okay, Now what's happened to the state broadcaster in

1995
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Speaker 3: Italy in the Winter Olympics.

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Speaker 18: Oh well, if you get the chance to have a listening,

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Speaker 18: you should. So it was a moment of massive national

1998
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Speaker 18: pride when the Milan Cortina Winter Olympics opened and the opening.

1999
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Speaker 13: Ceremony was a glitzy affair.

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Speaker 18: The state broadcaster RYE had the commentary from Paula Portrecia.

2001
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Speaker 18: Now he is the head of sport with RYE Sport,

2002
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Speaker 18: and a nine point two million viewers switched on eagerly

2003
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Speaker 18: to see what was being said. Sadly, for Paolo Patricia,

2004
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Speaker 18: the commentary was an embarrassment. It was littered with mistakes,

2005
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Speaker 18: factual errors and embarrassing gaffes.

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Speaker 13: Now, to be fair to.

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Speaker 18: Him, he had been a last minute stand in the

2008
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Speaker 18: original commentator dropped because he'd accidentally revealed a sensational surprise

2009
01:35:05,680 --> 01:35:10,160
Speaker 18: element of the ceremony by mistake in step, poor mister Patreccia.

2010
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Speaker 18: And I'm afraid it's one mistake after another. In the

2011
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Speaker 18: very opening seconds he says the wrong stadia that they

2012
01:35:18,280 --> 01:35:24,080
Speaker 18: are currently in. After that he then misidentifies Italian athletes

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Speaker 18: in their sport, and I'm afraid the list goes on

2014
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Speaker 18: and on. If you know what you're watching, it's really

2015
01:35:29,960 --> 01:35:30,639
Speaker 18: quite amusing.

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Speaker 13: Not for him, of course. And one last point.

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Speaker 18: It was so bad that journalists at the television station

2018
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Speaker 18: temporarily went on strike, saying he'd brought so much humility

2019
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Speaker 18: on them and so much embarrassment that they wanted nothing

2020
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Speaker 18: to do with it.

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Speaker 3: Unbelievable, Devin, thank you very much. Appreciate it. Gevin Gray

2022
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Speaker 3: are UK correspondent. Hither it's great to have a Reserve

2023
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Speaker 3: Bank governor who can focus on the economy rather than

2024
01:35:54,680 --> 01:35:58,880
Speaker 3: comparing the Reserve Bank to Tanemahuta. I forgot about that.

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Speaker 3: Adrian all thought he was a tree for a minute,

2026
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Speaker 3: a hot minute. Hey give her time. You don't know,

2027
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Speaker 3: I mean at the moment she's talking inflation, but you know,

2028
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Speaker 3: or is that our judgment? She might get sucked into

2029
01:36:10,880 --> 01:36:13,439
Speaker 3: this Wellington after all, that might pollute her brain and

2030
01:36:13,520 --> 01:36:15,519
Speaker 3: make her think she's a tree too. Eight away from seven,

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Speaker 3: it's the.

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Speaker 1: Heather too for see Alan Drive Full Show podcast on

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Speaker 1: iHeartRadio powered by newstalg zeb.

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Speaker 3: Five away from seven. I do think there's a part

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Speaker 3: of me that feels ever so slightly sorry for Andrew

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Speaker 3: that he was arrested and then spent the day in

2037
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Speaker 3: the cop shop on his birthday. That does rather suck,

2038
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Speaker 3: doesn't it? Apparently? But only slightly sorry? I should clarify now,

2039
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Speaker 3: Apparently play. We know that play is good for kids,

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Speaker 3: but apparently play is also really good for adults and

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Speaker 3: lifts well being and reduces stress. I'm telling you this

2042
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Speaker 3: because there's some research that's out about it which shows

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Speaker 3: that adults who engage in playful activities tend to cope

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01:36:54,560 --> 01:36:58,479
Speaker 3: better with stress, experience more positive emotions, show greater resilience

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01:36:58,520 --> 01:37:02,360
Speaker 3: when facing challenges, and report higher levels of life satisfaction. Now,

2046
01:37:02,439 --> 01:37:04,800
Speaker 3: before you go thinking on I can't bother going out

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Speaker 3: and digging out my kids toys and playing with it.

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Speaker 3: It's not that because obviously we're adults we don't do that.

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Speaker 3: But it's things like having silly chats with your friends,

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01:37:13,560 --> 01:37:18,040
Speaker 3: maybe listening to music, going and seeing music, telling some yarns,

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Speaker 3: doing things that you enjoyed just for the sake of

2052
01:37:19,720 --> 01:37:22,000
Speaker 3: doing them and no other reason, like surfing, golfing, whatever

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Speaker 3: it is that you do. I'm telling you that just

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01:37:24,160 --> 01:37:26,720
Speaker 3: so that if you ever feel guilty because it's appearance thing,

2055
01:37:26,920 --> 01:37:29,240
Speaker 3: you feel guilty, you think, Oh, I don't have time

2056
01:37:29,280 --> 01:37:31,040
Speaker 3: for that. I've got to do blah blah whatever else.

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01:37:31,400 --> 01:37:33,320
Speaker 3: It's important do something for you.

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Speaker 7: And bad Lands by Mumford and Sons to play us

2059
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Speaker 7: out tonight. Mumford and Sons have a new album out today.

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Speaker 7: It's called Prize Fighter. They've got a whole bunch of

2061
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Speaker 7: guest stars on and including Hosier and on this one

2062
01:37:46,880 --> 01:37:48,840
Speaker 7: is Gracie Abrams, who's an American thinger who's been going

2063
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Speaker 7: pretty well recently. She's the daughter of film director J. J. Abrams.

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Speaker 7: So this is Gracy Abrams and Mumford and Sons bad

2065
01:37:54,200 --> 01:37:55,759
Speaker 7: Lands brand spanking you just out today.

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Speaker 3: They're here and may aren't they? Oh there you go,

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Speaker 3: I'm going to see them.

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Speaker 7: Oh go perfect. Then all they'll have the whole new

2069
01:38:02,040 --> 01:38:03,479
Speaker 7: album with the material to play perfect.

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Speaker 3: I know that this kind of annoying. As soon as

2071
01:38:05,600 --> 01:38:06,880
Speaker 3: you said that they've got a new album, I.

2072
01:38:06,920 --> 01:38:09,240
Speaker 7: Was like, there you play hither, You've got to go

2073
01:38:09,320 --> 01:38:11,479
Speaker 7: home and play you do things for fu. Listen to

2074
01:38:11,560 --> 01:38:12,840
Speaker 7: a whole new album from my.

2075
01:38:12,920 --> 01:38:16,120
Speaker 3: Well, Bang and My Stress, except it makes me feel stressed.

2076
01:38:16,360 --> 01:38:17,960
Speaker 7: Play with so many these toys while you're doing it'll

2077
01:38:17,960 --> 01:38:18,320
Speaker 7: be nine.

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Speaker 3: And two right, Thanks and all right listen, enjoy your

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Speaker 3: weekend and host tomorrow. Enjoy Pulp. If you're coming to

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01:38:23,560 --> 01:38:25,439
Speaker 3: pop with us, the concert Club's going to hit the

2081
01:38:25,479 --> 01:38:28,360
Speaker 3: Pulp tomorrow. Yes, Common People will see you there and

2082
01:38:28,400 --> 01:38:29,760
Speaker 3: then I'll see you on Monday. Us talk to.

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Speaker 2: Remember they said I was born while I think I

2084
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Speaker 2: live on the house.

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Speaker 11: I'd never have been fetched the show.

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Speaker 19: Hi, I'm always walking the fan line, running away from

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Speaker 19: the low time.

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Speaker 5: I'm high.

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Speaker 2: For more from Heather Duplessy Allen Drive. Listen live to

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Speaker 2: news Talks.

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