1 00:00:00,360 --> 00:00:02,680 Speaker 1: More moving into the construction sector. This is interesting. We're 2 00:00:02,720 --> 00:00:05,960 Speaker 1: going to have our first independent residential building Consent authority. 3 00:00:06,000 --> 00:00:08,039 Speaker 1: It's private, yes, but it's backed by the government and 4 00:00:08,160 --> 00:00:10,840 Speaker 1: mb it'll iss you building consents within ten working days. 5 00:00:10,920 --> 00:00:13,560 Speaker 1: Chris Pink is the Building Construction Minister and he's with 6 00:00:13,640 --> 00:00:15,680 Speaker 1: us morning. What do you Mike, So when it says 7 00:00:15,720 --> 00:00:18,320 Speaker 1: eligible residential projects, what's that mean? 8 00:00:19,280 --> 00:00:22,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean there's some technical categories, but basically it's 9 00:00:22,520 --> 00:00:25,000 Speaker 2: most of the residential work that would be done by 10 00:00:25,040 --> 00:00:27,480 Speaker 2: anyone who at the moment would go to their local council. 11 00:00:27,520 --> 00:00:29,200 Speaker 2: They'll be able to rock up and talk to these 12 00:00:29,240 --> 00:00:31,400 Speaker 2: guys instead and get the consent that they need. 13 00:00:31,560 --> 00:00:34,360 Speaker 1: So this is one office as well as at scale projects. 14 00:00:35,320 --> 00:00:36,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, correct, that's right. 15 00:00:36,640 --> 00:00:38,720 Speaker 1: Does this use surper council completely? 16 00:00:40,320 --> 00:00:43,080 Speaker 2: Well, it will in the case of people who go 17 00:00:43,159 --> 00:00:46,440 Speaker 2: to this new Building Consent Authority will Yes, it'll be 18 00:00:46,720 --> 00:00:49,480 Speaker 2: in place of but having said that, the councils themselves 19 00:00:49,479 --> 00:00:51,640 Speaker 2: will remain in place, So people who want to go 20 00:00:51,640 --> 00:00:53,840 Speaker 2: along to their local council will still be able to 21 00:00:53,880 --> 00:00:54,880 Speaker 2: do that if they choose. 22 00:00:55,000 --> 00:00:58,160 Speaker 1: Having gone to a local council relatively recently, why would 23 00:00:58,160 --> 00:01:00,520 Speaker 1: I go ever? Again to a local council. If what 24 00:01:00,560 --> 00:01:04,600 Speaker 1: you're suggesting is going to improve things, Yeah, well. 25 00:01:04,440 --> 00:01:06,960 Speaker 2: I think these guys will offer another option and in 26 00:01:07,360 --> 00:01:10,760 Speaker 2: fact providing a bit of competition and the discipline of 27 00:01:10,840 --> 00:01:13,280 Speaker 2: that is actually going to be helpful for the system overall. 28 00:01:13,760 --> 00:01:16,600 Speaker 2: Initially they will be small enough, I suppose that they 29 00:01:16,600 --> 00:01:18,200 Speaker 2: won't be able to take on all the work of 30 00:01:19,560 --> 00:01:22,559 Speaker 2: the work the council does currently now all around New Zealand, 31 00:01:22,720 --> 00:01:24,440 Speaker 2: so they may be able to scale up. It'll be 32 00:01:24,440 --> 00:01:26,520 Speaker 2: interesting to see what the appetite is out there, given 33 00:01:26,560 --> 00:01:28,679 Speaker 2: that a number of people in some parts of New 34 00:01:28,760 --> 00:01:30,800 Speaker 2: Zealand will have had a negative experience and be keen 35 00:01:30,840 --> 00:01:31,280 Speaker 2: to give it a go. 36 00:01:31,560 --> 00:01:34,440 Speaker 1: Exactly what's this really all about? Is this just about 37 00:01:34,480 --> 00:01:37,120 Speaker 1: improving speed in other words, getting it done in ten 38 00:01:37,160 --> 00:01:41,040 Speaker 1: working days? Or is it about doing something uniform around 39 00:01:41,080 --> 00:01:43,240 Speaker 1: the country and not mucking around with individual rules and 40 00:01:43,280 --> 00:01:45,200 Speaker 1: regulations depending on what part of the country you live 41 00:01:45,240 --> 00:01:46,360 Speaker 1: in and what council you're under. 42 00:01:47,440 --> 00:01:49,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a bit of both. Actually, it's an important 43 00:01:49,160 --> 00:01:52,000 Speaker 2: point that you make around the consistency. So for those 44 00:01:52,040 --> 00:01:54,920 Speaker 2: who are building at scale or even a few projects 45 00:01:54,960 --> 00:01:58,480 Speaker 2: but across different council boundaries. One of the common complaints 46 00:01:58,480 --> 00:02:01,680 Speaker 2: that I hear is that they have different interpretation of 47 00:02:01,720 --> 00:02:04,560 Speaker 2: the building code according to which council they're dealing with. So, 48 00:02:04,840 --> 00:02:07,600 Speaker 2: by definition, if you're dealing with only one building contend 49 00:02:07,640 --> 00:02:10,360 Speaker 2: authorities such as this new outfit, you know you'll have 50 00:02:10,440 --> 00:02:13,720 Speaker 2: that consistency regardless of where you are doing that work. It. 51 00:02:13,760 --> 00:02:16,799 Speaker 2: As for timing, yeah, I mean the speed of operation 52 00:02:17,040 --> 00:02:20,160 Speaker 2: is going to be really important. So it'll be fascinating 53 00:02:20,200 --> 00:02:23,080 Speaker 2: to see how these guys managed to work against that 54 00:02:23,120 --> 00:02:25,000 Speaker 2: statutory time frame of keen working days. 55 00:02:25,080 --> 00:02:27,560 Speaker 1: How do you see this unfolding? Does this company scale 56 00:02:27,800 --> 00:02:30,600 Speaker 1: or do a whole bunch of companies broadly doing the 57 00:02:30,639 --> 00:02:34,399 Speaker 1: same thing then pop up? In other words, your usurping 58 00:02:34,440 --> 00:02:36,720 Speaker 1: councils and councils are no longer needed for this sort 59 00:02:36,720 --> 00:02:38,480 Speaker 1: of work. Yeah. 60 00:02:38,560 --> 00:02:40,560 Speaker 2: Well, we're in a stage of evolution, to be honest, 61 00:02:40,639 --> 00:02:43,960 Speaker 2: and if other private outfits want to put their hand up, 62 00:02:43,960 --> 00:02:46,639 Speaker 2: they'll need to meet the pretty high bar of having 63 00:02:46,720 --> 00:02:48,680 Speaker 2: what we call adequate means in other words, you know, 64 00:02:48,720 --> 00:02:51,960 Speaker 2: deep enough pockets to meet any liability that might arise, 65 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:54,600 Speaker 2: and including by way of insurance and so on. But 66 00:02:54,639 --> 00:02:57,280 Speaker 2: we're already looking at a couple of other innovations. One 67 00:02:57,360 --> 00:03:01,360 Speaker 2: is to allow councils already existing at a district or 68 00:03:01,400 --> 00:03:04,960 Speaker 2: city level to consolidate their functions at a regional level. 69 00:03:05,160 --> 00:03:07,160 Speaker 2: And another one is looking at that question of liability 70 00:03:07,560 --> 00:03:09,680 Speaker 2: out of fairness to councils who have a lot of 71 00:03:09,720 --> 00:03:13,240 Speaker 2: liability as the last person standing. So we're looking to 72 00:03:13,760 --> 00:03:15,880 Speaker 2: potentially move away from that too, which will help. 73 00:03:16,120 --> 00:03:18,399 Speaker 1: This seems like a game changer if it works. 74 00:03:19,280 --> 00:03:21,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm really excited about its potential. To be honest, 75 00:03:21,560 --> 00:03:24,360 Speaker 2: I'll be watching closely how they perform, how they operate, 76 00:03:24,480 --> 00:03:26,280 Speaker 2: how the market responds. I think there'll be a lot 77 00:03:26,280 --> 00:03:28,359 Speaker 2: of people who would be keen to see if they 78 00:03:28,720 --> 00:03:31,600 Speaker 2: do represent a game changer for what it means for 79 00:03:31,639 --> 00:03:36,000 Speaker 2: them getting consents and inspections conducted quickly. So watch the space. 80 00:03:36,040 --> 00:03:37,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's interesting, all right, Go well, Chris pank Here's 81 00:03:37,960 --> 00:03:38,960 Speaker 1: the Construction Minister. 82 00:03:39,400 --> 00:03:42,320 Speaker 2: For more from the Mic Asking Breakfast, listen live to 83 00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:42,960 Speaker 2: news talks. 84 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:46,200 Speaker 1: It'd be from six am weekdays, or follow the podcast 85 00:03:46,200 --> 00:03:47,080 Speaker 1: on iHeartRadio.