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Speaker 1: More change coming for forest owners over the ETS, this

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Speaker 1: time looking to cutridgis read costs. Fees would drop from

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Speaker 1: fourteen dollars ninety per hectare to ten twenty five. ADMIN

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Speaker 1: costs would also be updated, more targeted and lower fees.

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Speaker 1: Doctor Elizabethegg is the Forest Owners Association CEO and as

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Speaker 1: with us, Elizabeth, good morning, Good morning, MIKEE. So two

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Speaker 1: times they've lowered it all. Does this sit well with

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Speaker 1: forest owners? Are we where we need to be?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? It's got a lot better and that's through two things.

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Speaker 2: So we've got a reference group that's been working with

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Speaker 2: the Minister from across the forestry sector and as a

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Speaker 2: member of that, what we've been looking for is efficiency

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Speaker 2: in the government processes and MPI has done a good

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Speaker 2: job of finding ways to bring those costs down of

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Speaker 2: operations and then also looking at moving some of the

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Speaker 2: stuff that was in that annual charge into targeted fees

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Speaker 2: where if somebody is going to be using a service

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Speaker 2: multiple times, we shouldn't all be having to pay.

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Speaker 1: For that, right so information you're paying less, but what

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Speaker 1: you do pay is in a more efficient fashion. Is

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Speaker 1: that a fair sumation?

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Speaker 2: Correct?

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Speaker 1: Okay? Does it encourage more planting and or purchasing.

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Speaker 2: Of land, not really at this stage, and I'll be

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Speaker 2: honest with you. Next year we're looking at nursery orders

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Speaker 2: being down about twenty to fifty percent. So the LUC

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Speaker 2: changes with registration have really put the brakes on new planting.

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Speaker 2: So and this includes a fee for assessing applications for

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Speaker 2: the ETS that would include assessing that LUC restriction. So

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Speaker 2: that's I think going to keep the pressure on any

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Speaker 2: new A forestation.

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Speaker 1: So how many people why am I buying forests? Am

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Speaker 1: I buying and planting to grow some logs and sell them?

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Speaker 1: Or am I doing it for etes or a bit

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Speaker 1: of both generally.

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Speaker 2: So generally it would be probably a bit of both,

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Speaker 2: although this is going to have shifted to dials where

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Speaker 2: it's more going to be on the timber side of things,

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Speaker 2: most likely for new A forestation. And look, we're working

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Speaker 2: on ways that we can increase export value, get more

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Speaker 2: processing on shore. I mean, we want to get our

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Speaker 2: cost margins into a better place than where we're at

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Speaker 2: right now. But this ETS funding really helps, particularly our

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Speaker 2: smaller scale foresters and farm foresters to be able to

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Speaker 2: meet what have been some really inflationary costs over the

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Speaker 2: last few years. So I think we're going to keep

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Speaker 2: pushing for the confidence to come back in the emissions

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Speaker 2: trading scheme because it is an important aspect of forestry investment.

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Speaker 2: That being said, we need to add value on the

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Speaker 2: timber side as well.

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Speaker 1: Exactly good to talk to you, elizabethgow Well. Doctor Elizabeth

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Speaker 1: hig is the Forest Owners Association Boss.

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