1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,000 Speaker 1: Billy. A day after the victory, the business soa of 2 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:04,000 Speaker 1: the America's Cup turns to the next time out of 3 00:00:04,080 --> 00:00:06,800 Speaker 1: challenge of records being received of course, so what's the 4 00:00:06,880 --> 00:00:09,360 Speaker 1: time frame on the next set of details the team? 5 00:00:09,360 --> 00:00:11,640 Speaker 1: You see them? Boss Grunt Dalton is with us from Barcelona. 6 00:00:11,640 --> 00:00:11,800 Speaker 2: Bury. 7 00:00:11,800 --> 00:00:14,400 Speaker 1: Good morning to you and congratulations. 8 00:00:14,080 --> 00:00:16,680 Speaker 2: Thanks Mike, and thanks for the congratulations. 9 00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:19,400 Speaker 1: And how does it feel with the team and all 10 00:00:19,440 --> 00:00:21,759 Speaker 1: of the talk about Ainsley You're the greatest ever and 11 00:00:21,800 --> 00:00:23,040 Speaker 1: all of that. How's that gone down? 12 00:00:26,000 --> 00:00:27,600 Speaker 2: Well, it's been a full day of work for the 13 00:00:27,640 --> 00:00:30,840 Speaker 2: guys today is you know, you would expect we would 14 00:00:30,840 --> 00:00:34,640 Speaker 2: straight back into it, but everybody's really, I think, really 15 00:00:34,680 --> 00:00:37,680 Speaker 2: relieved as much as anything. I'm incredibly proud, but relieved 16 00:00:38,159 --> 00:00:41,280 Speaker 2: and from sort of where I sit, this was a 17 00:00:41,360 --> 00:00:43,560 Speaker 2: total team effort. Now I know that's a cliche, but 18 00:00:44,320 --> 00:00:49,120 Speaker 2: it worked on every level and the Sailors delivered in Auckland. 19 00:00:49,240 --> 00:00:51,760 Speaker 2: You know they will be the first to admit they 20 00:00:51,800 --> 00:00:54,360 Speaker 2: weren't at their best, but here they really did. And 21 00:00:54,400 --> 00:00:56,600 Speaker 2: this is you know, they are up against strong teams 22 00:00:57,400 --> 00:00:59,400 Speaker 2: and you know they smashed it out of a park. 23 00:00:59,440 --> 00:01:01,080 Speaker 2: I'll be proud of them. 24 00:01:01,240 --> 00:01:04,600 Speaker 1: When you say strong teams. The results wouldn't indicate that. 25 00:01:04,840 --> 00:01:07,560 Speaker 1: So is there something going on that you know about 26 00:01:07,600 --> 00:01:09,600 Speaker 1: that we don't that you know? On the wa seven 27 00:01:09,680 --> 00:01:10,520 Speaker 1: twos are thrashing. 28 00:01:13,400 --> 00:01:16,120 Speaker 2: Well, if you look at the deltas in terms of 29 00:01:16,200 --> 00:01:18,000 Speaker 2: up wind speed, you know, we get all the all 30 00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:19,880 Speaker 2: the data, and we compare the data and we look 31 00:01:19,920 --> 00:01:22,959 Speaker 2: at the attacking speeds and you build angles and the 32 00:01:23,000 --> 00:01:25,200 Speaker 2: whole bit between us and any of us. There was 33 00:01:26,040 --> 00:01:29,040 Speaker 2: almost nothing in it. And in certain conditions when they 34 00:01:29,080 --> 00:01:31,840 Speaker 2: won those two races, when there were waves, you know, 35 00:01:31,920 --> 00:01:33,880 Speaker 2: you'd argue they were a little bit quicker at times, 36 00:01:34,080 --> 00:01:36,760 Speaker 2: and certainly down wind they were always as far so 37 00:01:38,040 --> 00:01:40,000 Speaker 2: you've got to string the race together. I mean, you 38 00:01:40,040 --> 00:01:43,080 Speaker 2: can have two cars that are exactly the same race cars, 39 00:01:43,080 --> 00:01:44,920 Speaker 2: that one will be better because the drivers are better. 40 00:01:44,959 --> 00:01:50,000 Speaker 2: And I think in the end, two organizations, two boats 41 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:52,880 Speaker 2: that weren't dissimilar. Probably we had an edge at times, 42 00:01:53,480 --> 00:01:55,440 Speaker 2: but then the guys had the guys had to put 43 00:01:55,440 --> 00:01:56,960 Speaker 2: it on the water, you know. I mean, it's already 44 00:01:56,960 --> 00:01:58,760 Speaker 2: well to have a quick boat, it's going to salt 45 00:01:58,840 --> 00:02:00,560 Speaker 2: well at this level, I mean the top of the 46 00:02:00,600 --> 00:02:05,600 Speaker 2: food chain, and they really did peak Nathan the the 47 00:02:05,720 --> 00:02:11,560 Speaker 2: cyclist Tuky Andy, the coaches with Joshi and Ray. I mean, 48 00:02:11,560 --> 00:02:13,720 Speaker 2: they really really did a good job. 49 00:02:14,480 --> 00:02:17,239 Speaker 1: Where are you at? We'll have the usual post America's 50 00:02:17,280 --> 00:02:19,680 Speaker 1: Cup conversation, now have you locked the team down? Are 51 00:02:19,680 --> 00:02:21,360 Speaker 1: you locking the team down? What are you doing with 52 00:02:21,400 --> 00:02:21,760 Speaker 1: all of that? 53 00:02:23,880 --> 00:02:31,320 Speaker 2: Well, nothing yet, just afterwards, but there's the conversations that 54 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:34,480 Speaker 2: will happen pretty quickly. I think the thing is that 55 00:02:35,200 --> 00:02:38,640 Speaker 2: a team that wins almost needs to be more brutal 56 00:02:38,680 --> 00:02:40,799 Speaker 2: on itself than a team that loses, because they're bes 57 00:02:42,080 --> 00:02:45,200 Speaker 2: And I know after Auckland, we did a very very 58 00:02:45,280 --> 00:02:49,800 Speaker 2: thorough review and you know, ask ourselves the question, we've 59 00:02:49,840 --> 00:02:53,160 Speaker 2: just lost this America's Cup. Why did we lose it? 60 00:02:53,200 --> 00:02:55,720 Speaker 2: And we've got to ask ourselves the same question as 61 00:02:55,720 --> 00:03:01,560 Speaker 2: an organization, we've just lost the next one. Why. You 62 00:03:01,560 --> 00:03:03,080 Speaker 2: have to come up with the right answers because you've 63 00:03:03,080 --> 00:03:06,160 Speaker 2: got to make decisions. So I think the easiest way 64 00:03:06,160 --> 00:03:07,880 Speaker 2: to put it is the decisions that are made in 65 00:03:07,919 --> 00:03:11,000 Speaker 2: the next six months will be the winning and the 66 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:13,160 Speaker 2: losing of the next America's Cup. And that's the same 67 00:03:13,160 --> 00:03:15,680 Speaker 2: for every team. You make your decisions now, and you 68 00:03:15,760 --> 00:03:16,560 Speaker 2: better get them right. 69 00:03:16,919 --> 00:03:19,639 Speaker 1: So in making those decisions, who's making them in terms 70 00:03:19,680 --> 00:03:22,200 Speaker 1: of the other countries. You need more competitors, don't you. 71 00:03:24,880 --> 00:03:27,880 Speaker 2: Well, there's two arguments to that side. You could have 72 00:03:28,320 --> 00:03:31,840 Speaker 2: a league which has ten boats and they're all pretty 73 00:03:31,880 --> 00:03:34,600 Speaker 2: much the same and everybody has a lovely time, but 74 00:03:34,639 --> 00:03:37,000 Speaker 2: that's what it is. It's a league. Or you can 75 00:03:37,080 --> 00:03:39,600 Speaker 2: have the America's Cup. I mean a league being the 76 00:03:39,600 --> 00:03:45,160 Speaker 2: Premiership or any league in any country at any sport. 77 00:03:45,560 --> 00:03:47,280 Speaker 2: Or you can have the top of the food chain. 78 00:03:47,400 --> 00:03:50,680 Speaker 2: You can have the highest technology, the best of the best, 79 00:03:51,360 --> 00:03:54,000 Speaker 2: and that's not for everybody. So there's two schools afford 80 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:56,360 Speaker 2: to how the America's Cup should be formed going forward. 81 00:03:57,040 --> 00:04:00,840 Speaker 2: My personal feeling is not for everybody. It is only 82 00:04:00,960 --> 00:04:04,760 Speaker 2: for those that can deal with the technology, deal with 83 00:04:04,840 --> 00:04:09,440 Speaker 2: the intricacies of the team dynamics which are so big 84 00:04:09,760 --> 00:04:13,400 Speaker 2: and have the right people. So maybe another entry, but 85 00:04:13,480 --> 00:04:15,840 Speaker 2: I don't see more than another one. I never have 86 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:18,000 Speaker 2: seen this as a teen team game. 87 00:04:18,560 --> 00:04:20,440 Speaker 1: Would you do you have a sense of whether those 88 00:04:20,440 --> 00:04:22,440 Speaker 1: who turned up this time will be back for another goal? 89 00:04:24,640 --> 00:04:28,600 Speaker 2: Yes? I do, and I think without exception they all 90 00:04:28,680 --> 00:04:31,960 Speaker 2: will be. We're sort of aware of another one in 91 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:35,960 Speaker 2: the wings. It's up to them. But you know there's 92 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:38,560 Speaker 2: a long way to go yet. There's no protocol, there's 93 00:04:38,560 --> 00:04:41,880 Speaker 2: no entry date, there's no venue, there's no nothing. We 94 00:04:42,120 --> 00:04:48,600 Speaker 2: just got through yesterday or exhaled loudly and got through 95 00:04:48,680 --> 00:04:51,200 Speaker 2: last night, and we'll start to think about it whuture 96 00:04:51,279 --> 00:04:53,280 Speaker 2: pretty much straight away. Well today we started. 97 00:04:53,320 --> 00:04:56,159 Speaker 1: Now the challenger of record, assuming it's Britain, is it 98 00:04:56,279 --> 00:05:00,800 Speaker 1: aenios in that sense or is it just the British. 99 00:05:00,880 --> 00:05:03,160 Speaker 2: Well, it's a yacht club regatta, remember, so it's the 100 00:05:03,240 --> 00:05:05,360 Speaker 2: Royal New zeal On Yacht Squadron. And yes it is 101 00:05:05,480 --> 00:05:08,480 Speaker 2: ayous as such or the British team, but it's a 102 00:05:08,560 --> 00:05:11,599 Speaker 2: yacht club regatta. Yacht club has been challenged by the 103 00:05:11,680 --> 00:05:15,320 Speaker 2: Rayal Yacht Squadron. So we've accepted that challenge and that 104 00:05:15,400 --> 00:05:18,719 Speaker 2: happens as you cross the finish line. But that's done. 105 00:05:19,040 --> 00:05:22,640 Speaker 2: The next job for that is to write kind of 106 00:05:23,279 --> 00:05:26,279 Speaker 2: engagement in terms of what we believe, because we discuss 107 00:05:26,279 --> 00:05:28,440 Speaker 2: all this that we believe, certain things that we agree 108 00:05:28,480 --> 00:05:33,560 Speaker 2: on like nationality, like cost restriction, things like the class 109 00:05:33,560 --> 00:05:36,880 Speaker 2: of boat, and then form a protocol. And that's quite 110 00:05:36,880 --> 00:05:40,000 Speaker 2: a long process because I keep reading about how this 111 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:43,120 Speaker 2: is always totally slanted to the defender, because the defender 112 00:05:43,160 --> 00:05:46,599 Speaker 2: writes the rules. It's not it is slanted, but it's 113 00:05:46,720 --> 00:05:50,520 Speaker 2: not a complete whitewash in that respect, because you form 114 00:05:50,600 --> 00:05:53,599 Speaker 2: that agreement with your challenge of record, and that was 115 00:05:53,680 --> 00:05:57,040 Speaker 2: in us or the team and will be the team 116 00:05:57,080 --> 00:05:58,560 Speaker 2: this time as well, and. 117 00:05:58,520 --> 00:05:59,840 Speaker 1: The chances of it being in New z. 118 00:06:03,880 --> 00:06:05,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I mean, obviously I'm starting to get asked 119 00:06:05,760 --> 00:06:09,000 Speaker 2: that question, and I think it's simple way to answer 120 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:11,160 Speaker 2: it is this. It is not off off the table. 121 00:06:11,320 --> 00:06:13,400 Speaker 2: It has never been off the table. We never went 122 00:06:14,240 --> 00:06:16,600 Speaker 2: away because the only reason we left was to do 123 00:06:16,640 --> 00:06:20,880 Speaker 2: what exactly just happened, to keep an amazing team together 124 00:06:20,960 --> 00:06:24,159 Speaker 2: and to win. So if that amazing team can be 125 00:06:24,240 --> 00:06:27,320 Speaker 2: kept together and we believe that we can win, and 126 00:06:27,440 --> 00:06:29,120 Speaker 2: we can put a viable of the end at home, 127 00:06:29,279 --> 00:06:30,040 Speaker 2: we're coming home. 128 00:06:31,680 --> 00:06:34,160 Speaker 1: The chances, as you said here right now, hand on 129 00:06:34,480 --> 00:06:34,680 Speaker 1: a what. 130 00:06:36,320 --> 00:06:38,960 Speaker 2: I haven't got a clue, I mean, to be fair 131 00:06:39,240 --> 00:06:41,440 Speaker 2: to use it on. I've heard nothing, not a dicky bird, 132 00:06:41,520 --> 00:06:44,840 Speaker 2: not a boot. So I actually have no I can't 133 00:06:44,839 --> 00:06:46,680 Speaker 2: actually answer that even with my hand on my heart, 134 00:06:46,680 --> 00:06:47,440 Speaker 2: because i've heard anything. 135 00:06:47,680 --> 00:06:50,440 Speaker 1: Okay, right, go I make catch up some Grunt Dalton 136 00:06:50,480 --> 00:06:52,919 Speaker 1: out of Barcelona for US this morning. 137 00:06:53,440 --> 00:06:56,320 Speaker 2: For more from the mic Asking Breakfast, listen live to 138 00:06:56,480 --> 00:06:59,520 Speaker 2: news talks it'd be from six am weekdays, or follow 139 00:06:59,560 --> 00:07:01,120 Speaker 2: the podcas Asked on iHeartRadio