1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:03,840 Speaker 1: Murray Old's Ossie correspondence with US. Now, hey Maras very 2 00:00:03,840 --> 00:00:07,120 Speaker 1: good afternoon. So this coppers shot the attacker at Bondi Junction. 3 00:00:07,160 --> 00:00:11,640 Speaker 1: What they say, well, it's pretty extraordinary stuff to be honest. 4 00:00:11,880 --> 00:00:15,800 Speaker 1: The inquest opened yesterday. We heard in the opening address 5 00:00:15,840 --> 00:00:18,720 Speaker 1: basically the man who carried out this attack, a forty 6 00:00:18,800 --> 00:00:22,599 Speaker 1: year old guy called Joel Couci, hadn't been treated for 7 00:00:22,800 --> 00:00:27,160 Speaker 1: acute schizophrena for five years. The Queensland authorities basically told 8 00:00:27,240 --> 00:00:30,080 Speaker 1: him to self determine if he needed any medication, and 9 00:00:30,120 --> 00:00:32,320 Speaker 1: he just went off the radar for five years, living 10 00:00:32,360 --> 00:00:35,040 Speaker 1: rough in Sydney and looking up dreadful stuff on the 11 00:00:35,040 --> 00:00:39,000 Speaker 1: internet about stabbing attacks and mass murder and the like. Anyway, 12 00:00:39,400 --> 00:00:43,240 Speaker 1: on that Saturday afternoon, those who know Sydney, the Eastern 13 00:00:43,240 --> 00:00:47,800 Speaker 1: suburbs Westfield, Bondai Junction very very big center, and it 14 00:00:47,880 --> 00:00:51,800 Speaker 1: was packed and Joel Couchi's arrived, pulled out a knife 15 00:00:51,840 --> 00:00:54,680 Speaker 1: and just gone crazy for three minutes. Six people dead, 16 00:00:55,440 --> 00:01:01,560 Speaker 1: ten others are very badly injured. Amy Scott is a 17 00:01:01,600 --> 00:01:05,200 Speaker 1: New South Wales police inspector. She was nearby when she 18 00:01:05,319 --> 00:01:08,640 Speaker 1: had this. All the units, all the units Eastern suburbs. 19 00:01:08,680 --> 00:01:12,200 Speaker 1: Any car, we're getting multiple calls about multiple stabbings. Get 20 00:01:12,200 --> 00:01:14,720 Speaker 1: to Bondai junction. She's gone straight there. See only a 21 00:01:14,760 --> 00:01:18,080 Speaker 1: few minutes away in the patrol car. Anyway out the 22 00:01:18,080 --> 00:01:20,720 Speaker 1: front there's everyone's pouring out of a center because this 23 00:01:20,760 --> 00:01:23,880 Speaker 1: guy's going crazy. On the fifth level. She's pulled over 24 00:01:23,959 --> 00:01:27,280 Speaker 1: by two French guys and a third fellow and they 25 00:01:27,319 --> 00:01:30,000 Speaker 1: say we know where he is. She says, right, follow me. 26 00:01:30,080 --> 00:01:33,680 Speaker 1: Out comes the weapon. They go roaring inside up the escalators, 27 00:01:34,200 --> 00:01:37,399 Speaker 1: and within a moment or two, she's face to face 28 00:01:37,440 --> 00:01:42,319 Speaker 1: with his Joel catchy fellow. Now she's looking at him, 29 00:01:42,560 --> 00:01:45,600 Speaker 1: he's looking at her. Behind him, she can see a 30 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:47,960 Speaker 1: baby's pram and a couple of women, one of whom's 31 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:50,560 Speaker 1: hiding behind a pot plant. She mouths to one of 32 00:01:50,600 --> 00:01:55,040 Speaker 1: the women, run, run, run, and this guy turns around, 33 00:01:55,120 --> 00:02:00,640 Speaker 1: looks at the police officer. She's an inspector, pretty experienced socides. 34 00:02:00,680 --> 00:02:04,120 Speaker 1: I'm going to charge right at her at the police inspector. Well, 35 00:02:04,280 --> 00:02:07,440 Speaker 1: bang bang, bang, three shots and he's down. He's fatally injured. 36 00:02:07,960 --> 00:02:10,160 Speaker 1: So all of this in a matter of minutes. And 37 00:02:10,200 --> 00:02:12,920 Speaker 1: if I'm not just telling you this, it's like a 38 00:02:12,960 --> 00:02:15,720 Speaker 1: movie hitter or it's like something on television, but it's real. 39 00:02:16,120 --> 00:02:20,280 Speaker 1: This guy was not treated. Acute mental illness on the 40 00:02:20,360 --> 00:02:24,560 Speaker 1: streets spun out and there all these people died, all 41 00:02:24,560 --> 00:02:27,680 Speaker 1: these people very very badly wounded. Now he's dead. And 42 00:02:27,840 --> 00:02:30,920 Speaker 1: this woman herself, she acknowledged when she began she began 43 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:33,760 Speaker 1: giving evidence, acknowledged the pain and the trauma, all the 44 00:02:33,840 --> 00:02:37,000 Speaker 1: hurt that the people involved had suffered. And she actually said, 45 00:02:37,200 --> 00:02:39,880 Speaker 1: you know what I'm suffering as well. She's got something 46 00:02:39,919 --> 00:02:43,799 Speaker 1: like PTSD or something along those lines. Apparently, so as 47 00:02:43,840 --> 00:02:46,799 Speaker 1: you would expect, I guess. So that looked much more 48 00:02:46,800 --> 00:02:49,560 Speaker 1: evidence to come. But it's pretty harrowing stuff, it must 49 00:02:49,560 --> 00:02:52,080 Speaker 1: be said. Yeah, and then you've also got the trial, 50 00:02:52,160 --> 00:02:55,359 Speaker 1: Day one of the trial of the mushroom Chef. That's right, 51 00:02:55,440 --> 00:02:58,280 Speaker 1: Aaron Patterson. She's fifty years old. Everyone knows they are. 52 00:02:58,400 --> 00:03:01,160 Speaker 1: Nearly two years ago, four people turn up at her 53 00:03:01,160 --> 00:03:04,239 Speaker 1: place for lunch, her ex in laws and the sister 54 00:03:04,400 --> 00:03:08,320 Speaker 1: of one, and that the sister's husband. Four people sitting 55 00:03:08,360 --> 00:03:11,440 Speaker 1: down for a beef Wellington lunch, and three of them 56 00:03:11,760 --> 00:03:14,799 Speaker 1: die from it. Now she's accused of three counts of murder. 57 00:03:14,840 --> 00:03:18,320 Speaker 1: She's denied it, of course, and in all this time 58 00:03:19,040 --> 00:03:22,680 Speaker 1: the prosecution getting itself ready for this case five to 59 00:03:22,760 --> 00:03:25,799 Speaker 1: six weeks they say it's going to run today. Procedural 60 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:28,639 Speaker 1: really heather Around one hundred and twenty locals. The trials 61 00:03:28,680 --> 00:03:32,919 Speaker 1: being held out in East Gippsland, east of Melbourne. Around 62 00:03:32,919 --> 00:03:35,440 Speaker 1: one hundred and twenty locals were summoned for jury duty. 63 00:03:35,760 --> 00:03:39,400 Speaker 1: A large pool was whittled down via a random ballot. 64 00:03:39,400 --> 00:03:42,680 Speaker 1: Now fifteen jurors. You've got the twelve and the jury 65 00:03:42,960 --> 00:03:46,840 Speaker 1: plus three alternates and the jury panel will get some 66 00:03:46,880 --> 00:03:50,520 Speaker 1: instructions we understand from Justice Belle in about twenty minutes 67 00:03:50,520 --> 00:03:53,520 Speaker 1: from now. So this represents the start of the trial. 68 00:03:53,640 --> 00:03:55,840 Speaker 1: And I can tell you there's global interest in this 69 00:03:56,320 --> 00:03:59,240 Speaker 1: in this case right around the people are just fascinated 70 00:03:59,240 --> 00:04:02,920 Speaker 1: by it. Have they got international news crews there as far? 71 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:05,160 Speaker 1: Look I heard that this morning. I've not been down there. 72 00:04:05,200 --> 00:04:06,440 Speaker 1: I don't know. I heard it on one of the 73 00:04:06,480 --> 00:04:10,640 Speaker 1: news bulletins that you know, BBC parenties down there. You've 74 00:04:10,640 --> 00:04:14,160 Speaker 1: got I mean everything in Australia is represented, but I 75 00:04:14,240 --> 00:04:16,920 Speaker 1: understand the BBC's there as well. Yeah, that's fascinating. Okay, 76 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:19,600 Speaker 1: Hey listen, does it sound to you like the NRL 77 00:04:19,720 --> 00:04:23,960 Speaker 1: is standing by these welcome to country ceremonies. One if 78 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:26,960 Speaker 1: you look at the playing roster you've got, You've got Maldi, 79 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:31,200 Speaker 1: you've got Polynesians, you've got you know, every shade of 80 00:04:31,200 --> 00:04:33,960 Speaker 1: of of of color under the sun. You're not going 81 00:04:34,040 --> 00:04:35,560 Speaker 1: to drop that. It's part of the DNA of the 82 00:04:35,680 --> 00:04:38,360 Speaker 1: of the National Rugby League. And it was last Friday 83 00:04:38,400 --> 00:04:40,800 Speaker 1: when Peter Dutton was asked about this idiot who booed, 84 00:04:40,800 --> 00:04:43,680 Speaker 1: this right wing neo nazi who booed the Welcome to 85 00:04:43,760 --> 00:04:47,120 Speaker 1: country at the ANZAC dawn service in Melbourne. He said, 86 00:04:47,160 --> 00:04:51,279 Speaker 1: it's disgraceful. Of course that welcome the Country should take place, 87 00:04:51,680 --> 00:04:53,960 Speaker 1: but it flip flopped on Monday said no, no, no, I 88 00:04:53,960 --> 00:04:57,240 Speaker 1: think it's it's well overdone. It's well overdone. And look 89 00:04:57,279 --> 00:05:01,479 Speaker 1: I don't think any of the people, servicemen and women 90 00:05:01,560 --> 00:05:03,560 Speaker 1: like it very much either. Well hello this morning and 91 00:05:03,560 --> 00:05:05,080 Speaker 1: come out and said well yes we do, Peter, thanks 92 00:05:05,120 --> 00:05:07,880 Speaker 1: very much. And the NRL with the Magic Round that's 93 00:05:07,880 --> 00:05:11,919 Speaker 1: coming up this weekend up in Brisbane. The NRL says, listen, 94 00:05:11,960 --> 00:05:14,120 Speaker 1: of course it's part of our program, but it's always 95 00:05:14,120 --> 00:05:15,800 Speaker 1: going to be part of our program. So many of 96 00:05:15,800 --> 00:05:18,919 Speaker 1: our players are indigenous, so many of our players. It 97 00:05:19,040 --> 00:05:21,240 Speaker 1: means a lot to them. Is it such a big deal. 98 00:05:21,279 --> 00:05:23,960 Speaker 1: They're simply saying, welcome to Indigenous country. We've been here 99 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:26,960 Speaker 1: for sixty five thousand years. And that's been the problem 100 00:05:27,200 --> 00:05:30,120 Speaker 1: with Peter Dutton's campaign. He gets sidetracked on these kind 101 00:05:30,160 --> 00:05:33,599 Speaker 1: of cultural war issues about being woke and all the 102 00:05:33,640 --> 00:05:36,480 Speaker 1: rest of that nonsense. If he'd stuck to cost a 103 00:05:36,560 --> 00:05:38,080 Speaker 1: Living from the start, he might be able to have 104 00:05:38,080 --> 00:05:40,800 Speaker 1: a bit of chance for success on Saturday that he's 105 00:05:40,839 --> 00:05:43,480 Speaker 1: currently looking at. Yeah, interesting stuff, Murray, thank you very much, 106 00:05:43,480 --> 00:05:47,120 Speaker 1: really appreciate it. Murray Old's our Australia correspondents. For more 107 00:05:47,200 --> 00:05:50,520 Speaker 1: from Hither Duplessy Allen Drive, listen live to news Talks 108 00:05:50,520 --> 00:05:53,720 Speaker 1: it'd be from four pm weekdays, or follow the podcast 109 00:05:53,800 --> 00:05:54,840 Speaker 1: on iHeartRadio.