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Speaker 1: You're listening to the Resident Builder podcast with Peter wolf

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Speaker 2: Sawdust, sunshine and solid advice.

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Speaker 1: The Resident Builder with Peter wolf Camp call eight hundred

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Speaker 2: Dog even when the grass is overgrown.

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Speaker 3: In the yard, even when the dog is too old

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Speaker 3: to barn, and when you're sitting at the table trying

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Speaker 4: Scissor hole, even when we leave again, even when you're

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Speaker 3: House is a hole, even when those ghost even when

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Speaker 3: you got around from the word to let most.

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Speaker 2: Scream does broken pains appeel in funnel.

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Speaker 4: Locals west when they're going leaving them, even when we'll

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Speaker 5: And a very good morning and welcome along to the

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Speaker 5: Resident Builder on Sunday. That's with me, Pet wolf Camp,

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Speaker 5: the Resident Builder and your opportunity to talk all things

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Speaker 5: building and construction and action. Just even thinking back in

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Speaker 5: the last couple of weeks of being back in the

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Speaker 5: studio and in the topics that we've discussed an incredibly

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Speaker 5: wide range. So really, if it's got to do with housing,

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Speaker 5: if it's got to do to some degree with land,

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Speaker 5: if it's got to do with rules regulation, if it's

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Speaker 5: products and new ideas and innovation, if it's changes to

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Speaker 5: which has now come into play, right, so it's now law.

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Speaker 5: Technically you can go to the council with some information

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Speaker 5: build up to seventy square meters with a whole lot

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Speaker 5: of rules. There's still rules. This is one of the

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Speaker 5: things that I think has been not particularly well presented

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Speaker 5: maybe by the media in terms of there are still rules.

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Speaker 5: So if suddenly next week you see seventy square meters

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Speaker 5: that's just going to be more illegal building, like we've

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Speaker 5: home to finish a job. So if you're if you've

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Speaker 5: on the show this morning. So at almost ten minutes

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Speaker 5: after six on a rainy old day here in Auckland,

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Speaker 5: Not It's fair to say in the sector that not

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Speaker 5: give us a call right now. The lines are open.

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Speaker 5: The number is eight hundred eighty ten eighty. The text

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Speaker 5: is up and running as well. That's nine two nine

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Speaker 5: two or zbzb from your mobile phone. And if you'd

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Speaker 5: to figure out what my password is. Could we have

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Speaker 5: That's Pete at newstalksb dot co dot nz. So Pete

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Speaker 5: at newstalksb dot co dot nz. But right now the

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Speaker 5: lines are open. The number to call eight hundred eighty

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Speaker 1: Sorting those summer fixes before the barbecue crowd arrives. The

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Speaker 1: resident builder with Peter Wolfcab call Oh, eight hundred eighty

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Speaker 5: That'd be your news talks. He'd be right it is.

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Speaker 5: I know it's a little bit wet and miserable out there,

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Speaker 5: that number to call. A couple of emails have come in, actually,

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Speaker 5: Me and there would have been I don't know it,

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Speaker 5: I'm just trying to see who suggested that. Where did

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Speaker 5: a designer who was keen for a bit of a plug,

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Speaker 5: Bernie from kiwikad Design in the way Cuto, thanks very

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Speaker 5: much for your email. I do appreciate it, so I

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Speaker 5: eight hundred eighty ten eighty. If you have a question,

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Speaker 5: there's a couple of plumbing questions that have come through

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Speaker 5: Eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call,

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Speaker 5: eight hundred eighty ten. Couple of texts are coming through

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Speaker 5: and a buyer's nightmare. I presume Owen, you're talking about

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Speaker 5: the introduction of the for want of a breader phrase.

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Speaker 5: It's the granny flat legislation. A minister with deep pockets

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Speaker 5: and legal training can't imagine how fraught this is for

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Speaker 5: ruined by having outbuildings jammed up against their boundaries. Regards

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Speaker 5: from Owen, how well you raise a very good point.

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Speaker 5: You know, if it's permissible for your neighbor, let's say,

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Speaker 5: exactly what it's going to be. It's going to be

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Speaker 5: think some of the concerns that people have are legitimate.

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Speaker 5: Undoubtedly we'll get a chance to get the Minister responsible,

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Speaker 5: on exactly that. Now that it is law, and theoretically

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Speaker 5: you can go ahead, if your section is suitable and

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Speaker 5: make an application for one of these simple standalone dwellings

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Speaker 5: in the backyard. Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty the

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Speaker 5: I'll address those in just a moment right now, Simon,

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Speaker 5: are very good morning to you.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, good morning, hey, Yeah, I have a question. So

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Speaker 7: occasionally I have mice coming into the house, and so

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Speaker 7: I had a look under the house. It's raised house,

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Speaker 7: there's a copper hot water pipe going into through a

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Speaker 7: timber into the wall, yep, and there's a gap around

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Speaker 7: the hot water pipe. Yes, I have a feeling that

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Speaker 7: mice might be getting in through that gap. Can I

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Speaker 7: plug that up with something like steel wool? Steel wool,

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Speaker 7: I've actually.

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Speaker 5: Heard a number of people use steel wool because apparently

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Speaker 5: a fiber or something like that. So, yes, steel wool

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Speaker 5: can you please talk soon about insurances for tiny homes.

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Speaker 5: good morning to you.

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Speaker 9: Then listening to the morning the Sunday Morning Show. Anyway,

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Speaker 5: be a really really lovely place to live. Now before

431
00:25:01,015 --> 00:25:03,015
Speaker 5: you get on and go, Yeah, but have you seen

432
00:25:03,055 --> 00:25:07,375
Speaker 5: the prices of them? Yes, it is desive. It's also

433
00:25:07,575 --> 00:25:09,535
Speaker 5: very close to the city. I mean, you know, I

434
00:25:09,615 --> 00:25:11,815
Speaker 5: think it was about a fifteen minute walk for me

435
00:25:11,975 --> 00:25:14,695
Speaker 5: to go from the restaurant back to the ferry. You

436
00:25:14,775 --> 00:25:18,015
Speaker 5: could be it in downtown within a couple of minutes.

437
00:25:18,615 --> 00:25:21,935
Speaker 5: They've got the bridge working again, which is awesome. Actually,

438
00:25:21,975 --> 00:25:25,775
Speaker 5: the pool that they've developed inside the viaduct there is

439
00:25:26,055 --> 00:25:29,535
Speaker 5: incredibly popular with people as well, So there's some really

440
00:25:29,775 --> 00:25:34,615
Speaker 5: clever urban planning going on in that area. It felt great.

441
00:25:34,855 --> 00:25:38,055
Speaker 5: Now I've got a couple of mates who live around there. Yeah,

442
00:25:38,135 --> 00:25:41,255
Speaker 5: it's awesome. Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty. But yeah,

443
00:25:41,615 --> 00:25:44,455
Speaker 5: there's also rubbish apartments unfortunately that have been built and

444
00:25:44,535 --> 00:25:46,655
Speaker 5: if you're in one of those, it probably doesn't feel

445
00:25:46,695 --> 00:25:50,455
Speaker 5: that great, Bruce. Good morning to you, morning Pete and

446
00:25:50,535 --> 00:25:54,135
Speaker 5: enjoying your program. Thanks mate, nice to chat with you, Pete.

447
00:25:54,135 --> 00:25:57,055
Speaker 10: I've got a friend who's bought a team Maker block

448
00:25:57,335 --> 00:26:01,655
Speaker 10: and it's got a wallshit on it. That is, the

449
00:26:01,735 --> 00:26:07,735
Speaker 10: previous owners started building it into a home. It's not consented.

450
00:26:09,335 --> 00:26:14,575
Speaker 10: Can my free continue turning this set into a house

451
00:26:14,655 --> 00:26:18,295
Speaker 10: into a home without having consent as long as it's

452
00:26:18,335 --> 00:26:20,215
Speaker 10: done by a LBP.

453
00:26:21,695 --> 00:26:28,815
Speaker 5: No short answer. Okay, sorry, there's more to the question,

454
00:26:28,975 --> 00:26:31,855
Speaker 5: I know, but the short answer is no. So in

455
00:26:32,055 --> 00:26:36,535
Speaker 5: order for that building to become a habitable space, so

456
00:26:36,695 --> 00:26:40,535
Speaker 5: obviously it's a bullshed. Someone started doing some work they

457
00:26:40,655 --> 00:26:44,615
Speaker 5: haven't had building consent for that work. Your friend would

458
00:26:44,655 --> 00:26:49,415
Speaker 5: be best advised to They'll need to go to a designer,

459
00:26:50,775 --> 00:26:54,615
Speaker 5: submit some plans to counsel. I'd be really honest with

460
00:26:54,775 --> 00:26:59,175
Speaker 5: counsel and say this work has already been done, and

461
00:26:59,895 --> 00:27:03,535
Speaker 5: include that work in the drawings. So if there's already

462
00:27:03,535 --> 00:27:05,975
Speaker 5: some petitions that have been put up and that sort

463
00:27:06,015 --> 00:27:08,455
Speaker 5: of thing, you may well have to. Like, you know,

464
00:27:08,575 --> 00:27:10,655
Speaker 5: for example, one of the issues will be what's the

465
00:27:10,735 --> 00:27:13,455
Speaker 5: insulation in the exterior walls, and if there is insulation

466
00:27:13,575 --> 00:27:16,735
Speaker 5: in there, is there some building paper as well behind it,

467
00:27:16,815 --> 00:27:18,615
Speaker 5: those sorts of things in order for it to comply.

468
00:27:18,895 --> 00:27:23,095
Speaker 5: So I don't necessarily know that it would require stripping

469
00:27:23,135 --> 00:27:25,615
Speaker 5: out all of the work that's already been done, but

470
00:27:26,375 --> 00:27:30,295
Speaker 5: it would need to be inspected and proven to comply

471
00:27:30,535 --> 00:27:33,375
Speaker 5: with the building code and then included in the new

472
00:27:33,415 --> 00:27:37,335
Speaker 5: building consent. Once all of that work's being completed, go

473
00:27:37,495 --> 00:27:41,655
Speaker 5: for a CCC and it's a habitable space. And I

474
00:27:41,735 --> 00:27:46,135
Speaker 5: think the biggest reason that, well, no, the most important

475
00:27:46,135 --> 00:27:48,575
Speaker 5: reason is you want to be ensuring that you're living

476
00:27:48,615 --> 00:27:51,495
Speaker 5: in a compliant building that's going to look after you.

477
00:27:51,935 --> 00:27:54,775
Speaker 5: The other really important thing is inevitably when you go

478
00:27:54,895 --> 00:27:57,495
Speaker 5: to sell it, you're going to have the same problem,

479
00:27:57,775 --> 00:28:00,495
Speaker 5: which is trying to sell something that is not consented,

480
00:28:00,735 --> 00:28:04,255
Speaker 5: and people will either use that to beat you around

481
00:28:04,255 --> 00:28:06,055
Speaker 5: the head and drive the price down, or they just

482
00:28:06,495 --> 00:28:08,175
Speaker 5: buy it because they can't get lending on it.

483
00:28:09,975 --> 00:28:12,695
Speaker 6: Okay, Okay, that's fine, very much.

484
00:28:12,775 --> 00:28:15,855
Speaker 5: Yeah, Unfortunately, it's a straight out get a consent, get

485
00:28:15,895 --> 00:28:18,895
Speaker 5: it all upgraded, get it all compliant, and then you

486
00:28:18,975 --> 00:28:22,495
Speaker 5: know it'd be worth the investment. Okay, I'm hoping you

487
00:28:22,575 --> 00:28:25,215
Speaker 5: very I'm nice to chat with you all the best.

488
00:28:25,655 --> 00:28:27,375
Speaker 5: Take care by by that, oh eight one hundred and

489
00:28:27,415 --> 00:28:30,615
Speaker 5: eighty ten eighty is the number to call. New law

490
00:28:30,655 --> 00:28:32,815
Speaker 5: on the Granny Flats is a texter we put a

491
00:28:32,895 --> 00:28:38,495
Speaker 5: transportable has to be two meters off the boundary. I'm

492
00:28:38,495 --> 00:28:43,735
Speaker 5: going to check that. Actually, um, we put a transportable

493
00:28:43,815 --> 00:28:46,175
Speaker 5: home on a quarter acre section, so thousand square meet

494
00:28:46,215 --> 00:28:50,175
Speaker 5: it fully consent. Two years ago, how Hastings District Council

495
00:28:50,575 --> 00:28:54,135
Speaker 5: pretty much doubled our rates, which went from about three

496
00:28:54,215 --> 00:28:57,055
Speaker 5: hundred bucks a month to over six hundred. What can

497
00:28:57,095 --> 00:28:59,455
Speaker 5: we do about this? As the main house only has

498
00:28:59,495 --> 00:29:01,655
Speaker 5: one toilet, it's a small house and the tiny house

499
00:29:01,735 --> 00:29:03,455
Speaker 5: is all connected to the main house and you get

500
00:29:03,535 --> 00:29:06,215
Speaker 5: charged for two sewer charges. Hope you can help us.

501
00:29:06,335 --> 00:29:09,055
Speaker 5: Our rates are now about seven k annually and it's

502
00:29:09,215 --> 00:29:13,535
Speaker 5: ridiculously expensive, whereas houses of new builds with three toilets

503
00:29:13,615 --> 00:29:16,055
Speaker 5: their rates are a lot less. What should we do please?

504
00:29:16,335 --> 00:29:18,815
Speaker 5: I mean, look, I think in the end you can

505
00:29:19,015 --> 00:29:22,895
Speaker 5: go to your local council and appeal your rates bill.

506
00:29:23,935 --> 00:29:26,095
Speaker 5: But if they've got a metric that says well, now

507
00:29:26,175 --> 00:29:28,655
Speaker 5: there's two houses on the site. Therefore we're going to

508
00:29:28,775 --> 00:29:31,255
Speaker 5: charge you twice as much. And they don't really care

509
00:29:31,295 --> 00:29:33,295
Speaker 5: about the number of toilets. For example, there might be

510
00:29:33,375 --> 00:29:35,135
Speaker 5: one in the new build one and the existing one.

511
00:29:36,135 --> 00:29:39,255
Speaker 5: It doesn't matter to counsel or it might not work

512
00:29:39,375 --> 00:29:44,615
Speaker 5: within the metrics, the formula that they have to calculate rates.

513
00:29:46,015 --> 00:29:48,455
Speaker 5: You know, the number of toilets in a house might

514
00:29:48,535 --> 00:29:50,415
Speaker 5: not be part of that formula. It might just be

515
00:29:50,895 --> 00:29:53,815
Speaker 5: our house charges. Will we charge this much or levy

516
00:29:53,855 --> 00:29:56,175
Speaker 5: this much rates per house? You've got two of them now,

517
00:29:56,335 --> 00:30:00,175
Speaker 5: therefore your rates have doubled. But look, I feel you pain.

518
00:30:00,215 --> 00:30:02,055
Speaker 5: I'm not sure where other people are at, but I

519
00:30:02,815 --> 00:30:05,695
Speaker 5: do like a good spreadsheet, and so I keep a

520
00:30:05,775 --> 00:30:10,175
Speaker 5: track of expenses and looking at household expenses the other day.

521
00:30:11,055 --> 00:30:16,975
Speaker 5: Rates is my single biggest expense. So I can add

522
00:30:17,055 --> 00:30:19,135
Speaker 5: up insurances, I can add up water, I can add

523
00:30:19,175 --> 00:30:24,055
Speaker 5: up power, I can add up fiber, you know, insurances,

524
00:30:24,175 --> 00:30:28,295
Speaker 5: that sort of thing, and my biggest expense, and this

525
00:30:28,415 --> 00:30:30,415
Speaker 5: is probably true for most of us. Now as a

526
00:30:30,535 --> 00:30:33,415
Speaker 5: as a one off item, it's rates eight hundred eighty

527
00:30:33,495 --> 00:30:38,375
Speaker 5: ten eighty the number to call. We can take a break.

528
00:30:38,575 --> 00:30:40,575
Speaker 5: We need to take a break. Bron hold on there, buddy,

529
00:30:40,615 --> 00:30:41,775
Speaker 5: We'll come to you in just a moment.

530
00:30:42,295 --> 00:30:44,055
Speaker 2: Stuns out, tools out.

531
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Speaker 1: If your summer DIY starts here, the resident builder with

532
00:30:48,655 --> 00:30:50,695
Speaker 1: Peter Wolf can call eight hundred.

533
00:30:50,495 --> 00:30:52,295
Speaker 2: And eighty eight News Talk z B.

534
00:30:53,495 --> 00:30:55,695
Speaker 5: You and News Talk z B. Eight hundred eighty ten

535
00:30:55,815 --> 00:30:58,575
Speaker 5: eighty is the number to call. We can talk the practical,

536
00:30:59,575 --> 00:31:02,215
Speaker 5: but we can also talk sort of, I guess the theoretical.

537
00:31:02,335 --> 00:31:07,015
Speaker 5: This in my apologies if I've said this number of times,

538
00:31:07,695 --> 00:31:10,815
Speaker 5: I really can't think of a time in the last Well,

539
00:31:11,335 --> 00:31:15,135
Speaker 5: it's coming up fourteen years of doing the show. No,

540
00:31:16,055 --> 00:31:20,135
Speaker 5: I'll figuret about the minute sometime that we've seen as

541
00:31:20,215 --> 00:31:25,775
Speaker 5: much change to building legislation that's already happened and that

542
00:31:25,895 --> 00:31:29,615
Speaker 5: has been signaled to happen. So, for example, the upcoming

543
00:31:29,735 --> 00:31:33,735
Speaker 5: change from joint and several liability through to proportional that's

544
00:31:33,775 --> 00:31:35,895
Speaker 5: going to make it significant difference. We're talking about the

545
00:31:35,935 --> 00:31:40,895
Speaker 5: granny flat legislation at the moment, we're talking about compulsory

546
00:31:41,015 --> 00:31:47,055
Speaker 5: home warranty schemes and so on. It is the changes

547
00:31:47,215 --> 00:31:50,935
Speaker 5: are thick and fast, which is remarkable and probably more

548
00:31:50,975 --> 00:31:53,455
Speaker 5: to come. Oh weight one hundred eighty ten eighty is

549
00:31:53,615 --> 00:31:57,495
Speaker 5: the number to call. Thanks for calling back. Ron Good Yes, morning, greetings.

550
00:31:58,495 --> 00:32:01,375
Speaker 11: Look, I had my house built forty six years ago.

551
00:32:01,695 --> 00:32:04,935
Speaker 11: And when we built it, I had those lugs put

552
00:32:05,015 --> 00:32:08,575
Speaker 11: in the girl oranized. I had them galvanized and put

553
00:32:08,655 --> 00:32:11,815
Speaker 11: them through the stud And I have my own scaffold brackets,

554
00:32:12,255 --> 00:32:17,255
Speaker 11: oh yep, yep, which over the success of years we've used.

555
00:32:19,375 --> 00:32:23,135
Speaker 11: Now forty six years later, I'm getting the house painted again.

556
00:32:23,615 --> 00:32:25,935
Speaker 11: It's probably seven years or eight years since I had

557
00:32:26,015 --> 00:32:30,455
Speaker 11: it done. And we used these brackets. There were l

558
00:32:30,775 --> 00:32:33,575
Speaker 11: shaped bracket which with a leg, you know, the brackets

559
00:32:34,135 --> 00:32:38,775
Speaker 11: which I have. I've used them all the time. And

560
00:32:38,935 --> 00:32:42,295
Speaker 11: now I'm getting a quote this week. And the guys said, oh,

561
00:32:42,375 --> 00:32:45,575
Speaker 11: we'll get the scaffold around. And he arrived yesterday and

562
00:32:45,735 --> 00:32:49,295
Speaker 11: measured up the it's a two story house, of course,

563
00:32:49,815 --> 00:32:53,975
Speaker 11: and he measured the whole house up and he said that.

564
00:32:54,055 --> 00:32:57,375
Speaker 11: I said, how long the breck the scaffold he be here?

565
00:32:57,415 --> 00:33:01,215
Speaker 11: He saw probably three weeks yep. And I'm just wondering

566
00:33:01,295 --> 00:33:03,095
Speaker 11: what sort of a bill I'm going to get them.

567
00:33:03,175 --> 00:33:07,055
Speaker 11: Why seven or eight years ago the bill the painter,

568
00:33:07,695 --> 00:33:10,215
Speaker 11: you know, use the brackets I have on hand. I mean,

569
00:33:10,255 --> 00:33:14,175
Speaker 11: they're quite safe and the becket, the bulks that go

570
00:33:14,415 --> 00:33:18,175
Speaker 11: through into the lugs that going through the stud I

571
00:33:18,295 --> 00:33:21,935
Speaker 11: had all galvanized all those years ago, so that there

572
00:33:22,135 --> 00:33:22,695
Speaker 11: no problem.

573
00:33:22,815 --> 00:33:26,415
Speaker 5: Yeah, I've got a pretty clear picture in my mind

574
00:33:26,495 --> 00:33:30,455
Speaker 5: of exactly what what you've done. And and I can

575
00:33:30,935 --> 00:33:38,375
Speaker 5: understand that perhaps in a yeah, in simpler times, that

576
00:33:38,455 --> 00:33:40,535
Speaker 5: would have been suffice right. You would have you would

577
00:33:40,535 --> 00:33:43,495
Speaker 5: have had the lugs attached to the house. Well, you

578
00:33:43,535 --> 00:33:45,495
Speaker 5: would have poked down those brackets.

579
00:33:45,615 --> 00:33:47,615
Speaker 11: Go right through before stud.

580
00:33:47,695 --> 00:33:50,135
Speaker 5: It's not coming out, and so you'd you'd hok your

581
00:33:50,295 --> 00:33:51,775
Speaker 5: outrigger onto that sort of thing.

582
00:33:52,015 --> 00:33:53,135
Speaker 11: Yes, that's right now.

583
00:33:54,495 --> 00:33:56,015
Speaker 5: We used to have and we used to use them

584
00:33:56,095 --> 00:33:58,975
Speaker 5: on framing a lot, which was like a bracket that

585
00:33:59,095 --> 00:34:02,815
Speaker 5: you hooked around the stud. Right, So for houses you

586
00:34:02,895 --> 00:34:06,655
Speaker 5: would you do building paper on the top part and

587
00:34:06,735 --> 00:34:08,695
Speaker 5: then you'd hock these on and that gave you a

588
00:34:08,815 --> 00:34:11,175
Speaker 5: platform that you could move around. You could do the

589
00:34:11,615 --> 00:34:14,695
Speaker 5: facer boards and the safites and then you'd unclip them

590
00:34:14,735 --> 00:34:16,575
Speaker 5: and then you'd you'd work off the ground to do

591
00:34:16,655 --> 00:34:17,855
Speaker 5: the cladding. That sort of thing.

592
00:34:18,375 --> 00:34:22,975
Speaker 11: These ones you screw a bolt type thing with a

593
00:34:23,375 --> 00:34:27,895
Speaker 11: head on it and you slot your brackets into it.

594
00:34:28,455 --> 00:34:31,695
Speaker 11: And it's got a leg on which you attached probably

595
00:34:31,735 --> 00:34:34,895
Speaker 11: a meat down on an angle and put your planks,

596
00:34:34,935 --> 00:34:38,055
Speaker 11: and it's got a backboard with a plank onners. But

597
00:34:38,415 --> 00:34:40,095
Speaker 11: the builders are the pages.

598
00:34:40,495 --> 00:34:42,415
Speaker 5: I think what it would be now is in terms

599
00:34:42,455 --> 00:34:47,495
Speaker 5: of compliance with health and safety regulations. Most people would

600
00:34:47,495 --> 00:34:50,535
Speaker 5: look at that and say it's it wouldn't be compliant,

601
00:34:50,895 --> 00:34:53,535
Speaker 5: or you couldn't say that there's not a risk of

602
00:34:53,855 --> 00:34:56,095
Speaker 5: you know, easily falling off it, because I presume that

603
00:34:56,135 --> 00:34:59,375
Speaker 5: your brackets don't have an upright with a handrail for example,

604
00:34:59,535 --> 00:35:02,535
Speaker 5: or a toe kick running along it.

605
00:35:03,015 --> 00:35:05,935
Speaker 11: So brackets have a you would put a four or

606
00:35:05,975 --> 00:35:09,295
Speaker 11: two along the back of the back which is about

607
00:35:09,335 --> 00:35:13,815
Speaker 11: a meter high, and so it looks a ledge.

608
00:35:13,615 --> 00:35:15,575
Speaker 7: On the whole whole house.

609
00:35:15,815 --> 00:35:21,735
Speaker 11: Yes, but obviously the one man painter painted several eight

610
00:35:21,855 --> 00:35:25,975
Speaker 11: years ago, the had no problems with them. And now

611
00:35:26,335 --> 00:35:29,375
Speaker 11: these guys say, I know we've got to get scaffolding.

612
00:35:29,455 --> 00:35:32,655
Speaker 5: Well, I don't know what I'm Yeah, it's look, it'll

613
00:35:32,695 --> 00:35:36,295
Speaker 5: be ten or fifteen grand probably to scaffold a two

614
00:35:36,375 --> 00:35:38,855
Speaker 5: storied house for that amount of time, maybe a little

615
00:35:38,855 --> 00:35:41,855
Speaker 5: bit less, and about.

616
00:35:41,735 --> 00:35:45,495
Speaker 11: Four weeks to paint it. Yeah, two men four weeks.

617
00:35:45,655 --> 00:35:47,095
Speaker 5: Yeah, we're right by the time you do all the

618
00:35:47,135 --> 00:35:50,335
Speaker 5: prep and all the rest of it. Look, I get

619
00:35:50,375 --> 00:35:53,255
Speaker 5: where you're coming from, but I can also understand why

620
00:35:53,735 --> 00:35:56,535
Speaker 5: a contractor today, looking at you know, sort of modern

621
00:35:56,575 --> 00:35:58,535
Speaker 5: health and safety approaches, would look at it and go,

622
00:35:59,055 --> 00:36:01,415
Speaker 5: you know, I don't know that I could certified. It's

623
00:36:01,535 --> 00:36:04,335
Speaker 5: not a system I'm familiar with. It doesn't seem to

624
00:36:04,495 --> 00:36:07,895
Speaker 5: look like what we use every day do scaffolding. Therefore,

625
00:36:08,255 --> 00:36:10,335
Speaker 5: I'm not going to say, hey, my guys will be

626
00:36:10,415 --> 00:36:12,735
Speaker 5: okay up there, because in the event that one of

627
00:36:12,775 --> 00:36:17,775
Speaker 5: them missteps or misjudges it, you know, would the scaffolding

628
00:36:18,175 --> 00:36:22,175
Speaker 5: be deemed to be up to current standards. It probably wouldn't,

629
00:36:22,255 --> 00:36:24,455
Speaker 5: even though you know, for your own use it might

630
00:36:24,575 --> 00:36:27,415
Speaker 5: work out. So I can understand where they're coming from.

631
00:36:27,575 --> 00:36:30,815
Speaker 5: But actually, I really it's part of me that really

632
00:36:31,015 --> 00:36:36,415
Speaker 5: likes what you did, in the sense that I've got

633
00:36:36,455 --> 00:36:38,935
Speaker 5: a growing concern that I'm looking at a number of

634
00:36:39,015 --> 00:36:41,255
Speaker 5: buildings that are being built, particularly once we get to

635
00:36:41,375 --> 00:36:48,055
Speaker 5: the three story type apartment, semi detached houses, and in

636
00:36:48,215 --> 00:36:54,255
Speaker 5: some cases cladding choices that designers developers are making look

637
00:36:54,415 --> 00:36:57,375
Speaker 5: to me to be things that are not easily maintained

638
00:36:57,655 --> 00:37:02,335
Speaker 5: or require regular maintenance, but there's no practical way to

639
00:37:02,495 --> 00:37:04,855
Speaker 5: get to them, in which case I think we're just

640
00:37:04,935 --> 00:37:10,375
Speaker 5: setting ourselves or setting up homeowners for trouble basically. So,

641
00:37:10,935 --> 00:37:13,735
Speaker 5: you know, if you've got a cladding type that, let's

642
00:37:13,735 --> 00:37:17,535
Speaker 5: say the manufacturer says, hey, every eighteen months or twelve

643
00:37:17,615 --> 00:37:20,095
Speaker 5: months even you need to apply a coating to it

644
00:37:20,255 --> 00:37:24,295
Speaker 5: to maintain the quality of the cladding. And it's on

645
00:37:24,535 --> 00:37:29,095
Speaker 5: the third story gable and you're one meter from the boundary.

646
00:37:29,415 --> 00:37:33,495
Speaker 5: How is anyone practically going to get there? So is

647
00:37:33,615 --> 00:37:36,815
Speaker 5: that a wise choice? And you know, do people consider

648
00:37:36,855 --> 00:37:40,895
Speaker 5: that when they're looking at the building. It's certainly something

649
00:37:40,935 --> 00:37:43,375
Speaker 5: that I would consider. Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty.

650
00:37:43,415 --> 00:37:45,055
Speaker 5: Thank you very much for that. Ron, all the very

651
00:37:45,095 --> 00:37:47,735
Speaker 5: best to you and Warren greetings.

652
00:37:48,815 --> 00:37:49,415
Speaker 12: Three teams.

653
00:37:50,615 --> 00:37:54,695
Speaker 5: Yeah, very well, thanks Warren. That's good you right, yeah, absolutely,

654
00:37:54,775 --> 00:37:55,095
Speaker 5: go for it.

655
00:37:55,735 --> 00:37:56,215
Speaker 12: It's good.

656
00:37:56,575 --> 00:37:56,695
Speaker 8: Hey.

657
00:37:56,735 --> 00:38:06,535
Speaker 12: Look I've got a nine ten team home. It's as

658
00:38:06,735 --> 00:38:12,295
Speaker 12: plaster over a weatherboard, very old, but the PLASTI and

659
00:38:12,375 --> 00:38:18,295
Speaker 12: it's incredibly effects. I've dug downstairs. There's a hot lot

660
00:38:18,335 --> 00:38:21,095
Speaker 12: of clay that's actually come out from downstairs. There was

661
00:38:21,135 --> 00:38:27,895
Speaker 12: already a pre existing area downstairs and used for this concrete.

662
00:38:27,935 --> 00:38:34,335
Speaker 12: Even if you went so, I've dug out further, come

663
00:38:34,415 --> 00:38:39,975
Speaker 12: across a leap that obviously it was pre existing there,

664
00:38:40,655 --> 00:38:43,455
Speaker 12: and it was coming through the clay wall that actually

665
00:38:43,855 --> 00:38:46,335
Speaker 12: or the clay bank that had formed after we'd done

666
00:38:46,375 --> 00:38:52,455
Speaker 12: our little duggy sides of about fifty cent piece. But

667
00:38:52,735 --> 00:38:55,855
Speaker 12: it was loosing and leaking and doing non sorts of things.

668
00:38:55,935 --> 00:38:58,535
Speaker 12: Then I just haven't been able to find the loop.

669
00:38:58,615 --> 00:39:04,935
Speaker 12: I've dug outside the perimeter to the side game, I've

670
00:39:05,015 --> 00:39:09,135
Speaker 12: dug down there. We've found multiple crevices and roots, and

671
00:39:09,535 --> 00:39:13,855
Speaker 12: the gardens was always filled with just obviously a whole

672
00:39:13,895 --> 00:39:18,015
Speaker 12: lot of molts upon malts upon. So I dug down

673
00:39:18,095 --> 00:39:22,295
Speaker 12: there sounded the previous only put used drain coil. But

674
00:39:22,415 --> 00:39:26,015
Speaker 12: it was going back into the house under the under

675
00:39:26,055 --> 00:39:32,215
Speaker 12: the house. Oh yes, I dug all around the outside,

676
00:39:32,295 --> 00:39:36,255
Speaker 12: down the side of the with the path obviously on

677
00:39:36,335 --> 00:39:39,935
Speaker 12: the right hand side, but this garden to the side

678
00:39:40,135 --> 00:39:43,095
Speaker 12: on the of the house that was up against the

679
00:39:43,215 --> 00:39:50,255
Speaker 12: house effectively down I've used die. I've pulled out that pipe,

680
00:39:50,295 --> 00:39:52,415
Speaker 12: thinking well, that's going all the way back. So I

681
00:39:52,575 --> 00:39:55,495
Speaker 12: pulled the pipe out, used dye and water and still

682
00:39:55,535 --> 00:39:59,255
Speaker 12: found that it was easy. I've used I sell concrete,

683
00:39:59,335 --> 00:40:04,375
Speaker 12: I've dug down and I've used concrete to go further

684
00:40:04,495 --> 00:40:09,015
Speaker 12: away or fear along garden. If it's going down towards

685
00:40:09,095 --> 00:40:14,575
Speaker 12: these on the part of the house, there's just multiple

686
00:40:14,735 --> 00:40:19,695
Speaker 12: pathways going through there. Have you experienced it before?

687
00:40:19,935 --> 00:40:22,735
Speaker 5: Yeah, I tell you what I'm going to do, Laorn

688
00:40:22,775 --> 00:40:25,815
Speaker 5: if you could hold Now that you've given me the picture,

689
00:40:26,655 --> 00:40:27,975
Speaker 5: I'm going to have a bit of a think about

690
00:40:28,015 --> 00:40:30,175
Speaker 5: it during the news break, which is coming out fairly soon,

691
00:40:30,295 --> 00:40:32,495
Speaker 5: so I don't want to rush. We'll try and get

692
00:40:32,535 --> 00:40:34,255
Speaker 5: to the bottom of this. So just just down the

693
00:40:34,335 --> 00:40:37,055
Speaker 5: line and we'll come back and look at sort of

694
00:40:37,135 --> 00:40:41,255
Speaker 5: the source of what could be multiple points of ingress

695
00:40:41,815 --> 00:40:44,015
Speaker 5: as to explain where that water is coming from and

696
00:40:44,415 --> 00:40:47,815
Speaker 5: how it might be impacting on the build. Right, hey, now,

697
00:40:48,855 --> 00:40:51,455
Speaker 5: in the next hour of the show, Bryce McDermott, our

698
00:40:51,535 --> 00:40:54,255
Speaker 5: painting expert from Razine, will be joining us, So if

699
00:40:54,335 --> 00:40:58,655
Speaker 5: you've got any specific painting questions then you should give

700
00:40:58,695 --> 00:41:02,415
Speaker 5: us a call or sorry text through nine to nine two.

701
00:41:02,815 --> 00:41:05,015
Speaker 5: Bryce will be with us at around seven twenty five.

702
00:41:05,215 --> 00:41:08,415
Speaker 5: As always, Lining pass with us from eight point thirty

703
00:41:08,575 --> 00:41:12,095
Speaker 5: as well. We're back talking all things building in construction

704
00:41:12,295 --> 00:41:15,055
Speaker 5: after news, sport and weather at seven o'clock not too

705
00:41:15,095 --> 00:41:15,735
Speaker 5: far away.

706
00:41:17,175 --> 00:41:32,135
Speaker 2: Thanks from stumber backyard jobs to Big Rennolds. Let's talk

707
00:41:32,255 --> 00:41:32,575
Speaker 2: it through.

708
00:41:32,855 --> 00:41:35,815
Speaker 1: Call OH eight hundred eighty ten eighty the Resident Builder

709
00:41:35,935 --> 00:41:38,375
Speaker 1: with Peter WILFCAB News Talk, ZEBBI.

710
00:41:40,055 --> 00:41:43,415
Speaker 5: Ridio. We're into it. Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty

711
00:41:43,575 --> 00:41:45,255
Speaker 5: is the number to call. Good morning. My name's Pete

712
00:41:45,295 --> 00:41:47,575
Speaker 5: wolf Camp, the resident Builder, and this is the Resident

713
00:41:47,615 --> 00:41:49,855
Speaker 5: Builder on Sunday where we can talk about all things

714
00:41:49,935 --> 00:41:54,455
Speaker 5: building in construction. If you've got a specific painting question.

715
00:41:55,655 --> 00:41:59,135
Speaker 5: Bryce McDermott, our painting expert from Razine, will be with

716
00:41:59,295 --> 00:42:02,135
Speaker 5: us at about seven twenty seven to twenty five this morning,

717
00:42:02,415 --> 00:42:05,095
Speaker 5: So flick through any text that you might have any

718
00:42:05,215 --> 00:42:12,295
Speaker 5: questions via text regarding painting products, preparation brushes. One of

719
00:42:12,335 --> 00:42:14,015
Speaker 5: the things actually that we want to have a bit

720
00:42:14,095 --> 00:42:16,855
Speaker 5: of a chat about with Bryce today is, you know,

721
00:42:17,215 --> 00:42:19,815
Speaker 5: we often talk about painting in winter and thinking about

722
00:42:19,895 --> 00:42:23,415
Speaker 5: daylight hours and warmth and drying and those sorts of things,

723
00:42:24,375 --> 00:42:27,335
Speaker 5: and so summer is the traditional time for painting outside,

724
00:42:27,375 --> 00:42:30,415
Speaker 5: but there's issues like humidity that you need to consider

725
00:42:30,535 --> 00:42:34,295
Speaker 5: as well, and potentially painting in direct sunlight. So we

726
00:42:34,375 --> 00:42:35,695
Speaker 5: have a bit of a chat with Bryce about that.

727
00:42:35,775 --> 00:42:38,895
Speaker 5: But if you've got some specific questions for Bryce, please

728
00:42:38,975 --> 00:42:40,735
Speaker 5: text them through. He's going to be with us fairly

729
00:42:40,775 --> 00:42:43,655
Speaker 5: shortly now. Just before the news, we were chatting with Warren,

730
00:42:43,775 --> 00:42:47,935
Speaker 5: who's in an older house which is weatherboard with stucco over,

731
00:42:48,055 --> 00:42:51,375
Speaker 5: which is slightly unusual, but given that it's an old house,

732
00:42:51,455 --> 00:42:54,655
Speaker 5: that's not completely unusual that people do things like that.

733
00:42:55,095 --> 00:42:58,655
Speaker 5: And then so Warren just to quickly refresh. So in

734
00:42:58,775 --> 00:43:03,015
Speaker 5: the basement area or below the main living house, the

735
00:43:03,135 --> 00:43:07,655
Speaker 5: main living area of the house you've got, is it

736
00:43:07,735 --> 00:43:09,975
Speaker 5: a basement or is it just a sort of sub

737
00:43:10,095 --> 00:43:12,295
Speaker 5: floor area that's utilized.

738
00:43:13,415 --> 00:43:13,975
Speaker 11: No, it is.

739
00:43:14,815 --> 00:43:21,495
Speaker 12: It's a basement that's been that was already already in

740
00:43:21,655 --> 00:43:25,455
Speaker 12: situed downstairs. Yes, they had a make the concrete paired

741
00:43:25,535 --> 00:43:28,575
Speaker 12: head stairs going down to it, so it's got a

742
00:43:28,615 --> 00:43:30,375
Speaker 12: head head room. And then so what I wanted to

743
00:43:30,455 --> 00:43:35,215
Speaker 12: do was extend that further back and managed to do

744
00:43:35,415 --> 00:43:40,575
Speaker 12: that quite comfortably. And you know, obviously when we were

745
00:43:40,695 --> 00:43:45,935
Speaker 12: digging back the through all the clay and everything through

746
00:43:46,015 --> 00:43:49,575
Speaker 12: there and pulled that out there was just when we

747
00:43:49,695 --> 00:43:52,975
Speaker 12: stopped digging, there was just like I said, that fifty

748
00:43:53,055 --> 00:43:56,855
Speaker 12: cent piece is coming through on the side of the

749
00:43:57,935 --> 00:43:58,575
Speaker 12: on the on the.

750
00:43:58,895 --> 00:44:03,935
Speaker 5: Right, So it's just it's groundwater there. Yes, yeah, okay,

751
00:44:04,535 --> 00:44:09,375
Speaker 5: there is no stopping groundwater timing, not the essentially. So

752
00:44:10,095 --> 00:44:13,535
Speaker 5: it might just be water that's seeping through, you know,

753
00:44:13,775 --> 00:44:16,935
Speaker 5: layers of clay. It might be that there's a spring,

754
00:44:17,055 --> 00:44:21,015
Speaker 5: it might be that it's the water table. So there

755
00:44:22,375 --> 00:44:25,335
Speaker 5: is nothing in my mind that you can do to

756
00:44:25,455 --> 00:44:28,895
Speaker 5: control that. So then it becomes all about what do

757
00:44:29,015 --> 00:44:31,495
Speaker 5: I build, and how do I waterproof it, and how

758
00:44:31,575 --> 00:44:36,575
Speaker 5: do I capture and direct that water away from the building.

759
00:44:36,815 --> 00:44:40,175
Speaker 5: And so I presume that if you're excavating into a bank,

760
00:44:40,615 --> 00:44:42,255
Speaker 5: you're going to have a footing, you can have some

761
00:44:42,415 --> 00:44:44,495
Speaker 5: sort of wall, which is probably going to be masonry,

762
00:44:44,615 --> 00:44:47,815
Speaker 5: so blocks. You'll need to get in behind that with

763
00:44:47,935 --> 00:44:51,015
Speaker 5: a full waterproofing system there at the base of that

764
00:44:51,415 --> 00:44:56,655
Speaker 5: novercoil that's actually going somewhere and ideally going taking water

765
00:44:56,815 --> 00:44:59,135
Speaker 5: away from the back of the house and then behind

766
00:44:59,255 --> 00:45:02,215
Speaker 5: that wall. You know, once you've done the no overcoil

767
00:45:03,015 --> 00:45:06,335
Speaker 5: protected the waterproofing, then your back filled with scoria. So

768
00:45:06,575 --> 00:45:10,655
Speaker 5: that's kind of the typical methodology, and so that if

769
00:45:10,695 --> 00:45:13,295
Speaker 5: there is water there, and there always is some a

770
00:45:13,415 --> 00:45:16,335
Speaker 5: certain amount, you're capturing it directing it away.

771
00:45:18,015 --> 00:45:20,375
Speaker 12: Okay, well, look what we've done is I put a

772
00:45:21,415 --> 00:45:25,855
Speaker 12: secondary that. Look where we were living, it was never

773
00:45:26,015 --> 00:45:28,375
Speaker 12: it was never going to be living for a statement. Sure,

774
00:45:28,375 --> 00:45:32,855
Speaker 12: we're going to be grinding it out. So the I mean,

775
00:45:32,935 --> 00:45:35,215
Speaker 12: the main reason for getting down was to put the

776
00:45:35,335 --> 00:45:38,855
Speaker 12: membrane down far back as we could in obviously in

777
00:45:38,975 --> 00:45:43,455
Speaker 12: slade under the pool. So that's that that pifficient pace

778
00:45:43,575 --> 00:45:46,855
Speaker 12: is actually coming through the bank that we formed. I

779
00:45:46,935 --> 00:45:52,695
Speaker 12: think it's always been. Yeah, it's probably about three foot

780
00:45:52,975 --> 00:45:57,455
Speaker 12: it's the only area. Everything else is dry is and

781
00:45:57,615 --> 00:46:01,095
Speaker 12: I thought I put food strains in the outside. Yes,

782
00:46:02,095 --> 00:46:06,495
Speaker 12: I've dug down thinking that cut tackle. I've found where

783
00:46:06,535 --> 00:46:10,295
Speaker 12: this water is coming through. It's going to be subservice.

784
00:46:11,415 --> 00:46:15,575
Speaker 12: And I've got prince streams and I haven't haven't totally

785
00:46:15,695 --> 00:46:18,495
Speaker 12: filled those in like put the square on top of

786
00:46:18,575 --> 00:46:21,015
Speaker 12: the pathing, but I've done all that taking that away

787
00:46:21,175 --> 00:46:24,895
Speaker 12: from the house. Yes, and I can only think how

788
00:46:26,175 --> 00:46:29,975
Speaker 12: we dug down a long way and you can see

789
00:46:30,055 --> 00:46:33,335
Speaker 12: some of the cracks and some of the ground being

790
00:46:33,495 --> 00:46:36,815
Speaker 12: quite soft, so we dug down a long way. I've

791
00:46:36,815 --> 00:46:39,935
Speaker 12: put concrete on some of it and taking that away

792
00:46:39,975 --> 00:46:43,415
Speaker 12: from here the house and part of the game. But

793
00:46:43,535 --> 00:46:46,775
Speaker 12: I wonder just how far down that actually is because

794
00:46:47,055 --> 00:46:49,695
Speaker 12: we are lower than the road.

795
00:46:50,135 --> 00:46:52,895
Speaker 5: So a lot of right, Okay, yes.

796
00:46:53,575 --> 00:46:57,775
Speaker 12: Pump pumped back up, but obvioulys die an awful lot

797
00:46:57,855 --> 00:47:00,975
Speaker 12: of time. Find that leaf and you know it's definitely

798
00:47:01,055 --> 00:47:01,855
Speaker 12: coming through that.

799
00:47:02,335 --> 00:47:05,095
Speaker 5: Because the other thing is that that water that you

800
00:47:05,215 --> 00:47:08,735
Speaker 5: see or that you're trying to control, is that only

801
00:47:08,855 --> 00:47:12,535
Speaker 5: there when it rains or is it okay all right?

802
00:47:14,255 --> 00:47:16,455
Speaker 5: Because you know, just in case, maybe you know what

803
00:47:16,575 --> 00:47:19,455
Speaker 5: you might find it, particularly if you've got storm water

804
00:47:19,535 --> 00:47:22,135
Speaker 5: that's on a siphon system. If there's a break in

805
00:47:22,215 --> 00:47:25,015
Speaker 5: that pipe, then instead of it siphoning out to the road,

806
00:47:25,095 --> 00:47:28,415
Speaker 5: it might just be leaking out. But then it becomes

807
00:47:28,455 --> 00:47:31,335
Speaker 5: one of those ones that you only notice it after

808
00:47:31,615 --> 00:47:34,415
Speaker 5: we've had a period of rain. But if it's so,

809
00:47:34,855 --> 00:47:36,935
Speaker 5: if it's ground, you know, so have a look at

810
00:47:37,135 --> 00:47:41,975
Speaker 5: the storm water. There may well be some leaking there.

811
00:47:42,135 --> 00:47:45,175
Speaker 5: But again I think again, you know, I think I've

812
00:47:45,215 --> 00:47:48,695
Speaker 5: got an idea of where you're at. But it's if

813
00:47:48,735 --> 00:47:52,335
Speaker 5: you can't solve the groundwater issue, which is unlikely. Then

814
00:47:52,375 --> 00:47:55,695
Speaker 5: it just becomes about how you build the walls and

815
00:47:55,935 --> 00:48:00,255
Speaker 5: create drainage that then moves that water away. That's got

816
00:48:00,335 --> 00:48:01,095
Speaker 5: to be your focus.

817
00:48:02,335 --> 00:48:02,535
Speaker 8: Yeah.

818
00:48:02,735 --> 00:48:06,175
Speaker 12: So what I've done is I've got another from strain

819
00:48:06,735 --> 00:48:11,935
Speaker 12: around the perimeter downstairs, and I've put a pump municipal pump.

820
00:48:11,735 --> 00:48:14,895
Speaker 8: As a last gasp yeah yep, and.

821
00:48:15,455 --> 00:48:18,455
Speaker 12: Actually taking a leak down into a municipal pump and

822
00:48:18,535 --> 00:48:24,495
Speaker 12: then pumping it outside and dug. It's been a heap

823
00:48:24,535 --> 00:48:27,375
Speaker 12: of work to get it done, but it was like,

824
00:48:27,655 --> 00:48:32,375
Speaker 12: as I'm reading the probably used to be you know,

825
00:48:32,575 --> 00:48:36,975
Speaker 12: had water down absolutely ten years. So I've done my

826
00:48:37,095 --> 00:48:39,895
Speaker 12: best pump it down the dry as a part from

827
00:48:41,295 --> 00:48:45,695
Speaker 12: Like I said, that's fifty and it's just so.

828
00:48:46,655 --> 00:48:49,175
Speaker 5: And that water that you're seeing coming through that fifty

829
00:48:49,255 --> 00:48:52,135
Speaker 5: cent piece that you're describing, is that coming through a

830
00:48:52,295 --> 00:48:54,575
Speaker 5: masonry wall or through a timber stud wall.

831
00:48:55,655 --> 00:49:01,335
Speaker 12: Doesn't know that that's no, that's actually just the clay bank. Yeah, okay,

832
00:49:01,455 --> 00:49:04,575
Speaker 12: it's coming through the bank. Yeah, not from me yet,

833
00:49:05,215 --> 00:49:11,375
Speaker 12: so yeah, nothing that's obviously coming and underneath the.

834
00:49:13,935 --> 00:49:14,375
Speaker 9: Side of the.

835
00:49:14,455 --> 00:49:18,495
Speaker 12: House, yes, somewhere along that side and then coming through

836
00:49:18,615 --> 00:49:22,095
Speaker 12: but it's still two three feet.

837
00:49:23,975 --> 00:49:28,215
Speaker 5: Yeah. Then then I suppose getting a pit that's lower

838
00:49:28,295 --> 00:49:30,895
Speaker 5: than that and putting the submersible pump into their is

839
00:49:31,055 --> 00:49:33,415
Speaker 5: probably your best option.

840
00:49:34,655 --> 00:49:38,375
Speaker 12: That's about I just thought there's another option of trying

841
00:49:38,415 --> 00:49:39,535
Speaker 12: to find that bloody thing.

842
00:49:41,815 --> 00:49:45,095
Speaker 5: Look, it would be worth checking drains and having drained

843
00:49:45,175 --> 00:49:48,015
Speaker 5: surveyed just to ensure that that's not what's causing the leak.

844
00:49:48,815 --> 00:49:51,975
Speaker 5: But if it's and and you've you said you've used dye,

845
00:49:52,135 --> 00:49:54,255
Speaker 5: so you put die into the drains to see whether

846
00:49:54,375 --> 00:49:59,135
Speaker 5: or not that's then is evident there okay, then I

847
00:49:59,215 --> 00:50:02,695
Speaker 5: think if you've done a die test that's there. They're

848
00:50:02,735 --> 00:50:04,815
Speaker 5: pretty good. I did one a couple of years ago

849
00:50:04,935 --> 00:50:08,215
Speaker 5: where you know, someone was like, no, no, no, no,

850
00:50:08,535 --> 00:50:10,215
Speaker 5: it's not a problem with the drains. It's not a

851
00:50:10,295 --> 00:50:12,295
Speaker 5: problem with the drains. It'll be okay. And I'm looking

852
00:50:12,335 --> 00:50:15,135
Speaker 5: at thinking, I know that you were digging around that area.

853
00:50:15,255 --> 00:50:17,855
Speaker 5: I'm pretty sure that you've nicked the side of the drain,

854
00:50:17,935 --> 00:50:20,575
Speaker 5: and so put the dye in, and sure enough, after

855
00:50:20,655 --> 00:50:23,735
Speaker 5: about half an hour there's there's you know, bright green

856
00:50:23,935 --> 00:50:26,895
Speaker 5: water all over the ground. I'm like, there's your pipe

857
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Speaker 5: not working good? On you for doing it. I certainly

858
00:50:30,055 --> 00:50:33,455
Speaker 5: admire your perseverance and trying to find the source of

859
00:50:33,495 --> 00:50:36,415
Speaker 5: the leak. Right, if you've got as much perseverance as warrant,

860
00:50:36,415 --> 00:50:37,815
Speaker 5: you can give us a call as well. Oh eight

861
00:50:37,935 --> 00:50:40,855
Speaker 5: hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call. If

862
00:50:40,895 --> 00:50:44,895
Speaker 5: you've got a specific painting question, then Bryce, our painting expert,

863
00:50:45,015 --> 00:50:47,615
Speaker 5: is going to be along very shortly. In fact, we

864
00:50:47,735 --> 00:50:49,015
Speaker 5: might take the break and see if we can get

865
00:50:49,015 --> 00:50:50,935
Speaker 5: Bryce on the show now. So if you've got these

866
00:50:50,975 --> 00:50:54,775
Speaker 5: specific painting questions, Bryce from Razine with us in just

867
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Speaker 5: a moment. It is sixteen minutes after seven.

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Speaker 1: Sawdust, Sunshine and Solid Advice the Resident Builder with Peter

869
00:51:03,655 --> 00:51:06,695
Speaker 1: Wolfcab call OH eight hundred eighty ten eighty his talk

870
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Speaker 1: and a.

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00:51:07,975 --> 00:51:10,415
Speaker 5: Very very good morning. For the first time in twenty

872
00:51:10,495 --> 00:51:14,535
Speaker 5: twenty six, regularly contributed to the show our very own

873
00:51:14,615 --> 00:51:18,655
Speaker 5: painting expert, Bryce McDermott from Razim Good morning, sir, Good

874
00:51:18,735 --> 00:51:20,415
Speaker 5: morning six.

875
00:51:20,695 --> 00:51:20,895
Speaker 2: Yeah.

876
00:51:22,375 --> 00:51:24,215
Speaker 5: Who would have thunk? Can a you and I getting

877
00:51:24,255 --> 00:51:32,855
Speaker 5: on and we're still it's awesome. It's awesome. Hey, I

878
00:51:33,015 --> 00:51:36,615
Speaker 5: mentioned before, you know, like in my head in growing

879
00:51:36,695 --> 00:51:39,375
Speaker 5: up at home, Dad was always painting the house in summer, right,

880
00:51:39,495 --> 00:51:42,215
Speaker 5: and it felt like you didn't paint in winter outside

881
00:51:42,295 --> 00:51:44,815
Speaker 5: for obvious reasons. You did in summer because it was

882
00:51:44,895 --> 00:51:49,095
Speaker 5: better conditions. But there's still things to think about, particularly humidity.

883
00:51:49,295 --> 00:51:51,375
Speaker 5: So can you just run me through the issues around

884
00:51:51,815 --> 00:51:54,175
Speaker 5: humidity and exterior painting.

885
00:51:55,655 --> 00:51:59,015
Speaker 6: Yeah, well, you know, if you the easiest thing to

886
00:51:59,095 --> 00:52:01,295
Speaker 6: think about humidity is to look on the weather app

887
00:52:01,375 --> 00:52:05,695
Speaker 6: on your phone, yep, and it'll tell you what the

888
00:52:05,815 --> 00:52:08,055
Speaker 6: humidity is and what the dew point is and all

889
00:52:08,095 --> 00:52:13,135
Speaker 6: that sort of stuff. But basically, an ideal time to

890
00:52:13,215 --> 00:52:15,855
Speaker 6: paint is when the temperature is about fifteen to twenty

891
00:52:15,935 --> 00:52:19,815
Speaker 6: degrees and the humidity is like seventy to eighty percent.

892
00:52:19,975 --> 00:52:24,295
Speaker 6: Anything above eighty percent, then you know you've got to

893
00:52:24,455 --> 00:52:26,375
Speaker 6: sit down and have a bit of a think because

894
00:52:26,615 --> 00:52:29,735
Speaker 6: there's so much moisture, so much moisture in the air

895
00:52:30,615 --> 00:52:35,455
Speaker 6: that that doesn't allow the paint to dry properly or

896
00:52:35,535 --> 00:52:39,375
Speaker 6: cure properly. The easiest thing to think about is if

897
00:52:39,415 --> 00:52:44,015
Speaker 6: your washing's not drying on the line, right, then put

898
00:52:44,055 --> 00:52:48,735
Speaker 6: your brush away and say that for another day. They

899
00:52:48,855 --> 00:52:51,455
Speaker 6: do say that, you know, a nice cloudy day with

900
00:52:51,575 --> 00:52:54,455
Speaker 6: a gentle breeze and no rain coming is an ideal

901
00:52:55,015 --> 00:52:59,095
Speaker 6: time to paint. But you know, there's wherever you are

902
00:52:59,175 --> 00:53:01,895
Speaker 6: in the country, it's probably not going to happen, you know,

903
00:53:02,415 --> 00:53:05,135
Speaker 6: every day, or you just have to think about it

904
00:53:06,775 --> 00:53:09,455
Speaker 6: and you know, and just make sure that everything works

905
00:53:09,535 --> 00:53:10,575
Speaker 6: out properly in the end.

906
00:53:13,495 --> 00:53:16,775
Speaker 5: Okay, Well that's I mean, that's it's funny because the

907
00:53:16,855 --> 00:53:20,175
Speaker 5: impression is always, oh great, it's summertime. Great, the sun's out.

908
00:53:20,335 --> 00:53:23,295
Speaker 5: You know, we're rip into the exterior painting. But you're right,

909
00:53:23,415 --> 00:53:25,695
Speaker 5: and I guess the other thing, and I'm sure most

910
00:53:25,735 --> 00:53:29,335
Speaker 5: people are aware of this now, is painting in direct

911
00:53:29,415 --> 00:53:31,175
Speaker 5: sunlight not a great idea.

912
00:53:31,855 --> 00:53:34,935
Speaker 6: Yeah, follow the shade around if you'd pushed you know,

913
00:53:35,495 --> 00:53:37,855
Speaker 6: start on the shady side of the house and then

914
00:53:37,935 --> 00:53:41,295
Speaker 6: just follow the sun around, you know, painting and direct sun. Right, Yeah,

915
00:53:41,815 --> 00:53:44,455
Speaker 6: the paint droves really quickly. It's probably also drawing on

916
00:53:44,535 --> 00:53:48,375
Speaker 6: the brushes you're trying to work, but you know it

917
00:53:48,495 --> 00:53:52,215
Speaker 6: doesn't do the paint any good. So right, just you know,

918
00:53:53,175 --> 00:53:55,975
Speaker 6: sit back, read the read the label tell you know

919
00:53:56,495 --> 00:53:59,535
Speaker 6: on the paint can it tells you you know, the

920
00:53:59,615 --> 00:54:02,535
Speaker 6: best conditions to paint and things like that, And you

921
00:54:02,615 --> 00:54:06,215
Speaker 6: know you could also just nip onto our website, and

922
00:54:06,575 --> 00:54:09,335
Speaker 6: there's lots of information about the best times to paint

923
00:54:09,375 --> 00:54:09,975
Speaker 6: and things.

924
00:54:09,855 --> 00:54:12,215
Speaker 5: Like that, because there is that challenge. Let's say and

925
00:54:12,295 --> 00:54:16,695
Speaker 5: I you know, painting it outside. Let's say you've got

926
00:54:16,775 --> 00:54:19,455
Speaker 5: an eight inch board, right, an old fashioned house with

927
00:54:19,575 --> 00:54:21,935
Speaker 5: a bigger wide age inch board, and it's that thing

928
00:54:22,015 --> 00:54:23,855
Speaker 5: of sort of you know, you start maybe at the

929
00:54:23,935 --> 00:54:26,455
Speaker 5: top and you've you've done a couple of strokes and

930
00:54:26,535 --> 00:54:29,615
Speaker 5: you've done the top half of the board. Then paint,

931
00:54:29,855 --> 00:54:32,495
Speaker 5: you know, brush back in the pot second part of

932
00:54:32,535 --> 00:54:34,535
Speaker 5: the lower part of the board. But then by the

933
00:54:34,615 --> 00:54:36,855
Speaker 5: time you get to the top of the next section,

934
00:54:37,575 --> 00:54:40,095
Speaker 5: you know that that it's the first but it's already

935
00:54:40,135 --> 00:54:43,095
Speaker 5: started to dry. It's hard to get it to flow together.

936
00:54:43,335 --> 00:54:46,215
Speaker 5: And again that's what you're looking to avoid by maybe

937
00:54:46,415 --> 00:54:49,855
Speaker 5: making sure that you're out of the sun or some

938
00:54:50,095 --> 00:54:54,815
Speaker 5: flow troll or what's the hot water hot weather additive

939
00:54:54,855 --> 00:54:56,615
Speaker 5: that you can Yeah.

940
00:54:56,455 --> 00:55:02,655
Speaker 6: We've got hot weather center which is yep. But follow

941
00:55:02,735 --> 00:55:06,855
Speaker 6: the directions on that stuff. Don't overdose it. Yeah, underdose

942
00:55:07,095 --> 00:55:12,575
Speaker 6: if possible. But you know it's generally a small catful, Yeah,

943
00:55:14,055 --> 00:55:17,975
Speaker 6: in a one liter ca you know, one meter of paint,

944
00:55:18,095 --> 00:55:20,975
Speaker 6: So yeah, but that does it just gives you a

945
00:55:21,015 --> 00:55:23,975
Speaker 6: little bit more opening time. But yeah, you know, for

946
00:55:24,095 --> 00:55:27,855
Speaker 6: the time. If it's drying too fast and you're tearing

947
00:55:27,935 --> 00:55:30,015
Speaker 6: the surface of the paint when you're trying to actually

948
00:55:30,095 --> 00:55:33,135
Speaker 6: lay it off, then you know, put the brush away

949
00:55:33,295 --> 00:55:33,935
Speaker 6: or move to.

950
00:55:34,255 --> 00:55:35,735
Speaker 11: A cooler part you are apart.

951
00:55:36,175 --> 00:55:39,575
Speaker 5: Yeah, absolutely right. Well, actually we've got a bunch of

952
00:55:39,695 --> 00:55:41,935
Speaker 5: texts to get through, so let's race through this. Bryce,

953
00:55:42,055 --> 00:55:45,375
Speaker 5: could you please advise the best best method to prepare

954
00:55:45,495 --> 00:55:49,735
Speaker 5: eves for painting. The eaves are fiber cment, probably asbestos,

955
00:55:49,815 --> 00:55:52,695
Speaker 5: and it's got flaking paint on it. So let's assume

956
00:55:52,775 --> 00:55:56,855
Speaker 5: that it's asbestos or there's ACM in it, it's flaking.

957
00:55:57,175 --> 00:55:58,975
Speaker 5: How would you go about prepping that for paint?

958
00:56:00,175 --> 00:56:03,455
Speaker 6: You'd have to be very careful God, asbestos and you know,

959
00:56:04,655 --> 00:56:09,415
Speaker 6: probably a gem scraping, but no sanding or anything like that,

960
00:56:09,775 --> 00:56:12,335
Speaker 6: you know, just in case the best you know, you

961
00:56:12,375 --> 00:56:14,295
Speaker 6: don't want that stuff floating around in the air while

962
00:56:14,295 --> 00:56:17,855
Speaker 6: you're working. You know, it's best to try and prepare

963
00:56:17,935 --> 00:56:24,855
Speaker 6: it as as least as possible. Yes, any beer areas

964
00:56:25,055 --> 00:56:28,135
Speaker 6: spot prime with the good old solvent based shore seal

965
00:56:28,695 --> 00:56:31,175
Speaker 6: and two coats of a cryllic over the top, but

966
00:56:31,375 --> 00:56:34,775
Speaker 6: just be aware that, you know, don't go don't go overboard,

967
00:56:34,855 --> 00:56:38,615
Speaker 6: and don't don't send it whatever. You treat the moss

968
00:56:38,655 --> 00:56:40,215
Speaker 6: and mold and all that sort of stuff, and give

969
00:56:40,255 --> 00:56:45,295
Speaker 6: it a good washdown and then and then catch any

970
00:56:45,615 --> 00:56:48,095
Speaker 6: you know, any loose flakes or anything like that, you know,

971
00:56:48,175 --> 00:56:50,215
Speaker 6: and just catch it on the ground and wrap it

972
00:56:50,335 --> 00:56:53,575
Speaker 6: up and policine or something like that and then dispose.

973
00:56:53,215 --> 00:56:57,015
Speaker 5: Of it absolutely quick. One here what treatment or product

974
00:56:57,135 --> 00:57:00,455
Speaker 5: is needed to cover rust on a pressed metal ceiling

975
00:57:00,695 --> 00:57:05,015
Speaker 5: before repainting. So it's obviously an older heritage home with

976
00:57:05,095 --> 00:57:07,055
Speaker 5: a press metal ceiling, If it's got a little bit

977
00:57:07,055 --> 00:57:08,895
Speaker 5: of rust in there, what would you use to seal

978
00:57:08,975 --> 00:57:09,935
Speaker 5: that before painting?

979
00:57:12,135 --> 00:57:18,895
Speaker 6: Hm, that's a tricky one. You would probably have to

980
00:57:19,055 --> 00:57:22,855
Speaker 6: try and remove some of the rust by maybe using

981
00:57:23,455 --> 00:57:26,255
Speaker 6: like one of those green pot scrubbers that you get,

982
00:57:27,335 --> 00:57:29,455
Speaker 6: you know, and try and remove the rust as gently

983
00:57:29,495 --> 00:57:40,775
Speaker 6: as possible. And hmmm, probably maybe our armor ex GP

984
00:57:41,015 --> 00:57:44,935
Speaker 6: primer right, which is a general purpose sort of primer

985
00:57:45,015 --> 00:57:47,975
Speaker 6: that will cover rust and things like that. Use that

986
00:57:48,135 --> 00:57:52,415
Speaker 6: to spot prime the areas and things, and then a

987
00:57:52,495 --> 00:57:55,975
Speaker 6: good code of quick dry and then to coachs a

988
00:57:56,015 --> 00:57:57,255
Speaker 6: ceiling paint over the top of it.

989
00:57:57,855 --> 00:58:00,895
Speaker 5: Mm hmm. Okay, Now this is a tricky one because

990
00:58:00,935 --> 00:58:04,135
Speaker 5: it involves other contractors, but the text has come through

991
00:58:04,175 --> 00:58:07,775
Speaker 5: and it's said, our house is painted. Two of the

992
00:58:07,895 --> 00:58:11,655
Speaker 5: four walls that get sun all day began blistering straight away.

993
00:58:12,095 --> 00:58:15,415
Speaker 5: The painters came back to fix it, but it's blistered again.

994
00:58:15,935 --> 00:58:18,135
Speaker 5: They claim it was due to a reaction with the

995
00:58:18,335 --> 00:58:21,815
Speaker 5: old paint, so they've applied a different type of primer

996
00:58:22,175 --> 00:58:26,735
Speaker 5: and then repainted, but it's blistered again. So I presume

997
00:58:26,815 --> 00:58:31,375
Speaker 5: this is exterior, and let's assume that it's weather boards.

998
00:58:31,415 --> 00:58:32,975
Speaker 5: So what do you think might be happening there if

999
00:58:33,015 --> 00:58:34,215
Speaker 5: it's blistering so quickly.

1000
00:58:36,255 --> 00:58:41,695
Speaker 6: Generally, when a new paint job goes on, surface tension

1001
00:58:42,055 --> 00:58:45,615
Speaker 6: can occur while the painter's curing. You know, it basically

1002
00:58:45,775 --> 00:58:49,615
Speaker 6: reacts with the layers underneath and can actually, you know,

1003
00:58:49,975 --> 00:58:54,415
Speaker 6: cause the previous layers to actually pop off. So if

1004
00:58:54,455 --> 00:58:56,815
Speaker 6: you pop some of those blisters, and you'll probably find

1005
00:58:56,855 --> 00:58:59,535
Speaker 6: that it's actually gone back a to the primer or

1006
00:58:59,695 --> 00:59:02,015
Speaker 6: actually right back to the original timber.

1007
00:59:03,735 --> 00:59:03,895
Speaker 2: Right.

1008
00:59:04,815 --> 00:59:09,975
Speaker 6: So the only really a presient way to actually stop

1009
00:59:10,055 --> 00:59:13,815
Speaker 6: that is to completely strip those areas and startle over again.

1010
00:59:13,975 --> 00:59:17,495
Speaker 6: It's previous layers that have just given up the basic

1011
00:59:17,935 --> 00:59:21,095
Speaker 6: Yeah okay, yeah, and guess the lead as well.

1012
00:59:22,695 --> 00:59:28,535
Speaker 5: Yeah, absolutely, okay, that's an interesting one morning, lads. Bryce.

1013
00:59:28,615 --> 00:59:31,575
Speaker 5: I've recently clad a shed in plywood and put batons

1014
00:59:31,615 --> 00:59:34,215
Speaker 5: down the ply joints. After that, a very thin bead

1015
00:59:34,215 --> 00:59:36,975
Speaker 5: of sealant down each baton and smoothed off with my finger.

1016
00:59:37,335 --> 00:59:40,015
Speaker 5: Problem is, the stain won't stick to the silicon. It

1017
00:59:40,295 --> 00:59:44,455
Speaker 5: literally sheets off. Any clever ideas can I answer that?

1018
00:59:44,815 --> 00:59:48,415
Speaker 5: Because essentially what the person's done is one, you don't

1019
00:59:48,455 --> 00:59:50,895
Speaker 5: need silicon down the baton if you use the right baton,

1020
00:59:50,935 --> 00:59:52,935
Speaker 5: which should have a groove at the back of it.

1021
00:59:53,455 --> 00:59:56,295
Speaker 5: And also if you've used a silicon that's not paintable,

1022
00:59:56,815 --> 01:00:00,055
Speaker 5: then that's why the stain won't stick to it. So

1023
01:00:00,455 --> 01:00:05,295
Speaker 5: you've got to go through and remove all the sealant. Absolutely, yes, okay,

1024
01:00:05,455 --> 01:00:07,855
Speaker 5: all right. That would be one of those things where

1025
01:00:08,015 --> 01:00:10,815
Speaker 5: read the instructions is the key to that.

1026
01:00:11,255 --> 01:00:14,255
Speaker 8: Yeah, now, and things like that.

1027
01:00:14,375 --> 01:00:17,255
Speaker 5: The stain just you know, it just won't hang onto it,

1028
01:00:17,295 --> 01:00:21,095
Speaker 5: will it. No, not at all, because there are exterior

1029
01:00:21,215 --> 01:00:23,975
Speaker 5: seilants that are paintable, but you've got to look for

1030
01:00:24,055 --> 01:00:26,495
Speaker 5: that because there are others that are quite clearly paint

1031
01:00:26,495 --> 01:00:29,375
Speaker 5: won't stick to the stuff, you know. So yeah, you've

1032
01:00:29,375 --> 01:00:31,695
Speaker 5: got to read the instructions. Bryce, can you run through

1033
01:00:31,735 --> 01:00:34,455
Speaker 5: the prep for painting a garage floor please?

1034
01:00:36,255 --> 01:00:40,375
Speaker 6: Ah, It depends on what the garage floor is like,

1035
01:00:41,735 --> 01:00:44,975
Speaker 6: I'll go the whole hog straight away. The best thing

1036
01:00:45,055 --> 01:00:49,055
Speaker 6: to do is actually diamond grind the floor. Yes, it

1037
01:00:49,255 --> 01:00:52,215
Speaker 6: used to be. The thing that we used to do

1038
01:00:52,535 --> 01:00:55,415
Speaker 6: was sort of like acid etching with a solution of

1039
01:00:55,495 --> 01:01:01,575
Speaker 6: hydrochloric acid, but that introduces spirits of salts that used

1040
01:01:01,615 --> 01:01:06,175
Speaker 6: to introduce moisture into the equation. So diamond grinding is

1041
01:01:06,415 --> 01:01:10,735
Speaker 6: the best preparation. And then depending on the use that

1042
01:01:10,815 --> 01:01:15,095
Speaker 6: the garage floor is getting, I would put a coat

1043
01:01:15,215 --> 01:01:18,335
Speaker 6: of a product we have called armor bond, which is

1044
01:01:18,375 --> 01:01:25,095
Speaker 6: an epoxy concrete sealer, and then two to three coats

1045
01:01:25,295 --> 01:01:28,255
Speaker 6: of acle POxy, which is a water born epoxy that

1046
01:01:28,335 --> 01:01:32,695
Speaker 6: we have flooring situations. And then once you've done that,

1047
01:01:32,855 --> 01:01:35,095
Speaker 6: you've got to leave it for at least five to

1048
01:01:35,255 --> 01:01:38,855
Speaker 6: seven days to cure off properly before you put before

1049
01:01:38,895 --> 01:01:40,855
Speaker 6: you put a vehicle on it or anything like that.

1050
01:01:43,415 --> 01:01:47,375
Speaker 5: And the armor bond is that it will seal the

1051
01:01:47,495 --> 01:01:49,575
Speaker 5: concrete surface before the top coat.

1052
01:01:50,695 --> 01:01:50,895
Speaker 8: Yeah.

1053
01:01:51,055 --> 01:01:54,775
Speaker 6: Okay, it's a funny, funny material. It's clear and it

1054
01:01:54,855 --> 01:01:59,295
Speaker 6: goes a long way and the concrete ends up sort

1055
01:01:59,295 --> 01:02:02,935
Speaker 6: of looking like a well, what's the expression it looks like.

1056
01:02:03,455 --> 01:02:05,815
Speaker 6: Have you ever seen a piebal horse where it's sort

1057
01:02:05,855 --> 01:02:09,895
Speaker 6: of a patchy and spotty and stuff. Yeah, yeah, it

1058
01:02:10,015 --> 01:02:12,375
Speaker 6: looks like that, and you think, oh gosh, what's happening here?

1059
01:02:12,495 --> 01:02:16,255
Speaker 6: But that's that's what to expect. And then once that's

1060
01:02:16,415 --> 01:02:20,055
Speaker 6: cured and dried, it's a two pac material, but you

1061
01:02:20,135 --> 01:02:22,535
Speaker 6: don't have to overload it or anything like that. Twenty

1062
01:02:22,615 --> 01:02:26,855
Speaker 6: square meters at a liter it does wow, And but

1063
01:02:27,175 --> 01:02:30,695
Speaker 6: you know it's the ideal seiler before you put your

1064
01:02:30,735 --> 01:02:32,015
Speaker 6: equapoxy on the top of it.

1065
01:02:32,255 --> 01:02:36,855
Speaker 5: Okay, that's brilliant. Now here's a classic new ninety five

1066
01:02:37,055 --> 01:02:40,615
Speaker 5: meters of tannalized pine fencings. The palings are one point

1067
01:02:40,695 --> 01:02:44,735
Speaker 5: five meters high, one hundred mil wide, twenty five mil thick.

1068
01:02:45,095 --> 01:02:48,295
Speaker 5: The gap between is thirty mil. So the person is

1069
01:02:48,335 --> 01:02:50,855
Speaker 5: painting it with some lumbersider. The roller works well for

1070
01:02:50,935 --> 01:02:53,175
Speaker 5: the front and back, but the gaps are terrible to paint,

1071
01:02:53,855 --> 01:02:56,415
Speaker 5: so they're using a brush for that. What they're after

1072
01:02:56,615 --> 01:03:00,495
Speaker 5: is is there a fast away? Would you look at spraying?

1073
01:03:02,255 --> 01:03:06,495
Speaker 6: You could, but you know you'd still you'd still have

1074
01:03:06,695 --> 01:03:12,335
Speaker 6: the issue of getting into the gap. We do have

1075
01:03:12,535 --> 01:03:18,775
Speaker 6: a brush type thing for want of a better description,

1076
01:03:19,535 --> 01:03:24,055
Speaker 6: called a deck master, which has got really loose, super

1077
01:03:24,335 --> 01:03:27,335
Speaker 6: long bristles on it and you stick it on the

1078
01:03:27,495 --> 01:03:30,575
Speaker 6: end of a roller pole or something like that, and

1079
01:03:30,655 --> 01:03:34,295
Speaker 6: it actually sort of actually gets into the gaps between

1080
01:03:34,655 --> 01:03:36,535
Speaker 6: you know, if you're painting a deck, for instance, it

1081
01:03:36,615 --> 01:03:40,735
Speaker 6: gets into the gap the deck. So maybe that would work,

1082
01:03:42,135 --> 01:03:44,255
Speaker 6: you know, but if you're trying to spray or something

1083
01:03:44,375 --> 01:03:47,255
Speaker 6: like that, you know there's a danger that you'll actually

1084
01:03:47,335 --> 01:03:49,375
Speaker 6: overbuild it and get runs and things like that.

1085
01:03:50,855 --> 01:03:53,655
Speaker 5: Yeah. Actually, just on the spraying, someone else has said, look,

1086
01:03:53,735 --> 01:03:56,495
Speaker 5: I'm thinking about using a spray gun to do the

1087
01:03:56,575 --> 01:03:58,375
Speaker 5: exterior of my house. But they're going to look at

1088
01:03:58,455 --> 01:04:01,375
Speaker 5: one of the like the compressors, so sort of spraying

1089
01:04:01,375 --> 01:04:05,455
Speaker 5: that you'd see car guys do, which typically if contractor

1090
01:04:05,495 --> 01:04:09,295
Speaker 5: is a spraying, they're using the airless sprayer, aren't they

1091
01:04:09,775 --> 01:04:11,175
Speaker 5: not not a compressed one?

1092
01:04:11,895 --> 01:04:16,775
Speaker 6: Oh? Yeah, because well you know it uses just the

1093
01:04:16,855 --> 01:04:19,575
Speaker 6: compressor units and things obviously use a lot of air

1094
01:04:19,695 --> 01:04:25,095
Speaker 6: and stuff like that, and you know they to my mind,

1095
01:04:25,135 --> 01:04:27,575
Speaker 6: the water based paint through one of those things would

1096
01:04:28,535 --> 01:04:30,895
Speaker 6: cause a few issues. You know, you'd get blockages and

1097
01:04:30,975 --> 01:04:35,975
Speaker 6: things like that. Yes, so maybe consider hiring an airless sprayer.

1098
01:04:36,455 --> 01:04:41,175
Speaker 5: Yep, yeah, yeah, I would absolutely. Actually, the person who

1099
01:04:41,255 --> 01:04:44,335
Speaker 5: had the issue with the silicon has text through bugger

1100
01:04:44,695 --> 01:04:48,095
Speaker 5: chairs for reading out who reads the instructions right dot

1101
01:04:48,095 --> 01:04:50,215
Speaker 5: dot dot, So good luck with that journal. It's a

1102
01:04:50,255 --> 01:04:51,575
Speaker 5: little bit of work to do to get rid of

1103
01:04:51,615 --> 01:04:52,655
Speaker 5: the silicon.

1104
01:04:54,215 --> 01:04:54,375
Speaker 8: Right.

1105
01:04:54,695 --> 01:04:58,335
Speaker 5: Large wooden outdoor dining set that's very heavy. They thought

1106
01:04:58,375 --> 01:05:01,655
Speaker 5: it was queler, they've now figured out that it's actually rosewood.

1107
01:05:03,135 --> 01:05:06,775
Speaker 5: Could you suggest an oil or a stain for rosewar would.

1108
01:05:10,415 --> 01:05:12,575
Speaker 6: That's a That's an interesting one, is that they always

1109
01:05:12,615 --> 01:05:13,495
Speaker 6: throw these ones at me.

1110
01:05:13,695 --> 01:05:17,255
Speaker 5: It would be it would almost be similar in consistency

1111
01:05:17,375 --> 01:05:21,095
Speaker 5: to like teak, you know, that very heavy, very dense timber.

1112
01:05:21,855 --> 01:05:25,735
Speaker 6: Mm hmmm. Probably the only thing that springs to mind

1113
01:05:25,855 --> 01:05:31,135
Speaker 6: would be woodsmand wood oil, you know, the very very

1114
01:05:31,655 --> 01:05:34,415
Speaker 6: thin running water consistency.

1115
01:05:34,575 --> 01:05:35,695
Speaker 5: Tess that the oil.

1116
01:05:35,495 --> 01:05:40,015
Speaker 6: Based stain, which I think would be the way to go,

1117
01:05:41,935 --> 01:05:44,655
Speaker 6: but bear in mind, you know, after a couple of summers,

1118
01:05:44,735 --> 01:05:46,575
Speaker 6: you'll probably need to redo it again as well.

1119
01:05:46,775 --> 01:05:50,615
Speaker 5: Yes, yes, absolutely, which might help the person from Central

1120
01:05:50,615 --> 01:05:53,615
Speaker 5: Otago's got the teak outdoor table. They've they've knocked it

1121
01:05:53,695 --> 01:05:56,175
Speaker 5: back with some steel wall, but that's black in the surface,

1122
01:05:56,215 --> 01:05:58,375
Speaker 5: so I guess sand it and then again you could

1123
01:05:58,495 --> 01:06:00,095
Speaker 5: use the razine stain on that as well.

1124
01:06:00,895 --> 01:06:02,855
Speaker 8: Yep, absolutely, that's okay.

1125
01:06:04,215 --> 01:06:07,135
Speaker 5: Now someone has stripped because we were talking about the

1126
01:06:07,215 --> 01:06:11,695
Speaker 5: paint that's bubbling, and you know, maybe what's required because

1127
01:06:11,855 --> 01:06:14,055
Speaker 5: I think if you've got an old house, there's a

1128
01:06:14,175 --> 01:06:17,575
Speaker 5: point at which at some time, if you've kept it

1129
01:06:17,615 --> 01:06:19,375
Speaker 5: for a while, you're going to end up having to

1130
01:06:19,455 --> 01:06:21,575
Speaker 5: strip right back to beer timber. Right, So if you're

1131
01:06:21,575 --> 01:06:24,455
Speaker 5: in an old villa and it's had one hundred years

1132
01:06:24,495 --> 01:06:26,695
Speaker 5: of paint on it, there comes a time when you've

1133
01:06:26,775 --> 01:06:29,095
Speaker 5: just got to start again. So this person or the

1134
01:06:29,135 --> 01:06:32,535
Speaker 5: bungalow is in that space, what would you recommend as

1135
01:06:32,615 --> 01:06:35,695
Speaker 5: the best product to skim the boards for preparation and

1136
01:06:35,815 --> 01:06:39,375
Speaker 5: the steps that I should follow after the boards are stripped.

1137
01:06:40,895 --> 01:06:45,735
Speaker 6: Okay, Well, then once the boards are stripped, and if

1138
01:06:45,775 --> 01:06:49,855
Speaker 6: it's a super old villa we or a bungalow like

1139
01:06:50,015 --> 01:06:54,215
Speaker 6: my house, which I've had stripped by the way, Yes, yep.

1140
01:06:56,415 --> 01:07:00,535
Speaker 6: We have a product called timber lock right, which you

1141
01:07:00,655 --> 01:07:03,175
Speaker 6: put onto the beer timber first, which binds up all

1142
01:07:03,215 --> 01:07:05,575
Speaker 6: the timber fibers and things like that and just gives

1143
01:07:05,615 --> 01:07:11,095
Speaker 6: you a good sound surface for painting, and then either

1144
01:07:11,175 --> 01:07:14,575
Speaker 6: a full coat of oil based wood primer depending on

1145
01:07:14,695 --> 01:07:18,335
Speaker 6: the timber, or you could use quick dry as well,

1146
01:07:18,455 --> 01:07:20,895
Speaker 6: but you know, if it's really old, I would prefer

1147
01:07:21,015 --> 01:07:26,335
Speaker 6: to people to use wood primer. And then once that's done,

1148
01:07:26,495 --> 01:07:30,935
Speaker 6: we have a product called timber Timber Surfacer, which is

1149
01:07:31,015 --> 01:07:36,935
Speaker 6: a very thick ah type product that you actually apply

1150
01:07:37,135 --> 01:07:41,815
Speaker 6: to the boards and then once that's dry, you give

1151
01:07:41,855 --> 01:07:44,735
Speaker 6: it a good sanding and it smooths everything out. And

1152
01:07:44,815 --> 01:07:48,255
Speaker 6: then it's quite a long process because you've already done

1153
01:07:48,295 --> 01:07:51,695
Speaker 6: your timber lock and your wood primer and your timber surfacer,

1154
01:07:51,815 --> 01:07:53,775
Speaker 6: and then once you've sanded the boards, then you put

1155
01:07:53,775 --> 01:07:56,255
Speaker 6: a full coat of quick dray over the top and

1156
01:07:56,375 --> 01:07:58,695
Speaker 6: then proceed with two coats of a Crylle.

1157
01:08:00,815 --> 01:08:02,175
Speaker 5: Might have to come into the store and have we

1158
01:08:02,255 --> 01:08:04,615
Speaker 5: look at that. That sounds quite intriguing, right.

1159
01:08:06,375 --> 01:08:10,135
Speaker 6: A lot of it's a yellow yeah, okay, yes, and

1160
01:08:10,335 --> 01:08:13,055
Speaker 6: that does create a lot of yellow dust twing standing.

1161
01:08:14,175 --> 01:08:18,015
Speaker 6: And I'm speaking from experience, and.

1162
01:08:18,095 --> 01:08:21,335
Speaker 5: Look, I made the comment earlier that certainly when I'm

1163
01:08:21,375 --> 01:08:23,455
Speaker 5: in the workshop I've got sort of a bit of

1164
01:08:23,535 --> 01:08:26,455
Speaker 5: a system rigged up so that I can plug or

1165
01:08:26,655 --> 01:08:29,575
Speaker 5: attach extraction to any of the sanders that I might

1166
01:08:29,655 --> 01:08:31,815
Speaker 5: be using, if it's a belt sander or a random

1167
01:08:31,935 --> 01:08:35,295
Speaker 5: orbital or whatever it is that I'm using, and attaching

1168
01:08:35,415 --> 01:08:38,255
Speaker 5: extraction to your sanders. Apart from the fact that it's

1169
01:08:38,415 --> 01:08:41,135
Speaker 5: it's better because you're not having all that dust blowing around.

1170
01:08:41,535 --> 01:08:43,375
Speaker 5: Even if you've got a sander with a bag on it,

1171
01:08:43,775 --> 01:08:46,535
Speaker 5: it's still more effective to have a sander attached. So

1172
01:08:46,935 --> 01:08:49,415
Speaker 5: I'm thinking if you were to apply this timber surfacer

1173
01:08:49,535 --> 01:08:52,095
Speaker 5: on the outdoor area and then you had maybe a

1174
01:08:52,135 --> 01:08:55,215
Speaker 5: little random orbital sander, but take the bag off and

1175
01:08:55,335 --> 01:08:58,655
Speaker 5: put extraction onto it to a vacuum cleaner, that would

1176
01:08:58,695 --> 01:09:00,295
Speaker 5: take care of all of that yellow dust.

1177
01:09:01,095 --> 01:09:05,375
Speaker 6: Yep, And especially if you've got an older an older home. Yeah, sure,

1178
01:09:05,535 --> 01:09:09,535
Speaker 6: there's a likelihood that there's lead somewhere in there. So

1179
01:09:09,815 --> 01:09:14,215
Speaker 6: you know, extraction on a sander is probably the best

1180
01:09:14,255 --> 01:09:16,335
Speaker 6: thing you could probably do to do for yourself.

1181
01:09:16,495 --> 01:09:20,295
Speaker 5: Absolutely, a couple of quick ones to wrap up. Hey,

1182
01:09:20,655 --> 01:09:24,775
Speaker 5: I've gotten and in closed deck that needs to be

1183
01:09:24,935 --> 01:09:28,775
Speaker 5: redone and waterproof? Is there is drainage? But what product

1184
01:09:28,855 --> 01:09:29,455
Speaker 5: can I use?

1185
01:09:32,455 --> 01:09:35,055
Speaker 6: I think a closed deck that needs to be redone.

1186
01:09:34,895 --> 01:09:36,255
Speaker 5: Yeah and waterproof.

1187
01:09:37,655 --> 01:09:37,855
Speaker 8: Yeah.

1188
01:09:38,095 --> 01:09:40,055
Speaker 5: I think that's not going to be a paint on product.

1189
01:09:40,095 --> 01:09:42,815
Speaker 5: I think you should be looking at torchons and TPOs

1190
01:09:42,895 --> 01:09:45,935
Speaker 5: and things like that. Now Here we go this coumpans

1191
01:09:45,935 --> 01:09:49,455
Speaker 5: of the cowshed. I need to repaint the block work

1192
01:09:49,615 --> 01:09:52,575
Speaker 5: in the cowshed. What's the best product? Please?

1193
01:09:54,415 --> 01:09:57,335
Speaker 6: In the cowshed. I would go back, I would I

1194
01:09:57,415 --> 01:10:00,095
Speaker 6: would go back to acropoxy, which is you.

1195
01:10:00,095 --> 01:10:04,615
Speaker 13: Know we're discussing about the yes explaw before and depending

1196
01:10:04,695 --> 01:10:08,135
Speaker 13: on the condition of the area you know, of the

1197
01:10:08,215 --> 01:10:12,775
Speaker 13: block work, you know it'll need obviously need a huge

1198
01:10:12,895 --> 01:10:14,855
Speaker 13: clean down and all that sort of stuff to get

1199
01:10:14,935 --> 01:10:18,975
Speaker 13: rid of any I'm not sure what they use to

1200
01:10:19,015 --> 01:10:22,695
Speaker 13: clean out milted sheds and things like that, but you

1201
01:10:22,775 --> 01:10:25,775
Speaker 13: know you'll need to actually render the surface ready for

1202
01:10:25,895 --> 01:10:29,535
Speaker 13: painting and stuff like that. Spot spot prime many bear

1203
01:10:29,655 --> 01:10:33,255
Speaker 13: areas with good old sure seal again and then two

1204
01:10:33,375 --> 01:10:37,015
Speaker 13: to three coats of ack POxy, which is and it's

1205
01:10:37,055 --> 01:10:41,215
Speaker 13: a two pack material and you know, stands up to

1206
01:10:41,855 --> 01:10:44,135
Speaker 13: a lot of washing and stuff like that, and you know,

1207
01:10:45,095 --> 01:10:47,495
Speaker 13: it's probably the best thing I could think of.

1208
01:10:47,975 --> 01:10:52,535
Speaker 5: Okay, that's brilliant. Forty year old exposed ceiling that looks

1209
01:10:52,615 --> 01:10:55,975
Speaker 5: like it's a stained dark color. They're wanting to paint

1210
01:10:56,055 --> 01:10:58,935
Speaker 5: it white. So let's assume it's timber. It's probably got

1211
01:10:58,975 --> 01:11:01,415
Speaker 5: a bit of polyurethane, maybe some stain, and then a

1212
01:11:01,455 --> 01:11:04,935
Speaker 5: polyurethane coating over that. What's the prep to go from

1213
01:11:05,135 --> 01:11:06,935
Speaker 5: stain or poly earth to paint.

1214
01:11:08,135 --> 01:11:12,015
Speaker 6: Okay, give it a good wash down first, because you know,

1215
01:11:12,135 --> 01:11:14,455
Speaker 6: you never know what's there with a stained ceiling. You

1216
01:11:14,575 --> 01:11:17,855
Speaker 6: can't see any you know, where the flies have been

1217
01:11:17,935 --> 01:11:20,615
Speaker 6: and stuff like that, or you know, it's just there's

1218
01:11:20,655 --> 01:11:24,535
Speaker 6: probably a few years of accumulated sort of bits and pieces.

1219
01:11:25,455 --> 01:11:27,455
Speaker 6: Give it a good washdown and a clean down and

1220
01:11:27,575 --> 01:11:31,695
Speaker 6: let it dry sand, you know, to provide a key

1221
01:11:31,815 --> 01:11:33,775
Speaker 6: for the whatever you're going to put over the top.

1222
01:11:35,215 --> 01:11:39,055
Speaker 6: Water Borne shore seal, yeah, which is what we're using

1223
01:11:39,135 --> 01:11:43,175
Speaker 6: now to seal off furnace. And then once that's drive

1224
01:11:43,775 --> 01:11:47,535
Speaker 6: two coats of a ceiling flat or a space coat

1225
01:11:47,815 --> 01:11:49,775
Speaker 6: or you know, whatever you'd want to put over the

1226
01:11:49,815 --> 01:11:50,215
Speaker 6: top of that.

1227
01:11:50,615 --> 01:11:54,335
Speaker 5: Yeah, brilliant. Certainly it worked a treat for me a

1228
01:11:54,375 --> 01:11:57,535
Speaker 5: couple of years ago. Remove ceiling tongue and groove ceiling,

1229
01:11:58,935 --> 01:12:02,695
Speaker 5: you know, polyurethane over it took the gloss off the polyrthane.

1230
01:12:02,895 --> 01:12:05,975
Speaker 5: The share of the smooth surface ceiler is a funny

1231
01:12:06,015 --> 01:12:08,535
Speaker 5: produce to apply again, it's it's kind of milky and

1232
01:12:08,975 --> 01:12:11,135
Speaker 5: you're sort of wondering whether it's doing anything and all

1233
01:12:11,175 --> 01:12:13,935
Speaker 5: the rest of it. But it's worked a treatments stuck

1234
01:12:14,095 --> 01:12:17,975
Speaker 5: like the proverbial to a blanket, so it certainly works.

1235
01:12:19,295 --> 01:12:19,455
Speaker 11: Well.

1236
01:12:19,535 --> 01:12:23,175
Speaker 6: You know, smooth surface center is what we used to use. Yeah,

1237
01:12:23,255 --> 01:12:26,215
Speaker 6: we've sort of we've moved that into the space of painting,

1238
01:12:27,135 --> 01:12:29,375
Speaker 6: you know, and using it as a primer for melamine

1239
01:12:29,415 --> 01:12:33,335
Speaker 6: and stuff like that. Right, and with the introduction of

1240
01:12:33,415 --> 01:12:36,575
Speaker 6: water boards to a seal. Yes, that's that's taken over

1241
01:12:36,695 --> 01:12:40,095
Speaker 6: the roof spot of it. Our number one vanish.

1242
01:12:40,335 --> 01:12:44,255
Speaker 5: All right, last one because actually we've been undondated. It's

1243
01:12:44,255 --> 01:12:47,215
Speaker 5: been great morning, Pete. We've got a stationary bus with

1244
01:12:47,295 --> 01:12:50,655
Speaker 5: a fiberglass roof front and back. Otherwise it's metal. The

1245
01:12:50,735 --> 01:12:53,335
Speaker 5: fiberglass has lost most of its paint, and as bear

1246
01:12:53,415 --> 01:12:56,535
Speaker 5: and areas, it's sound a couple of very slight cracks.

1247
01:12:56,855 --> 01:12:59,815
Speaker 5: What's the best preparation and top coats for the over

1248
01:12:59,895 --> 01:13:02,335
Speaker 5: the fiberglass, Oh.

1249
01:13:02,335 --> 01:13:12,015
Speaker 6: Golly, tricky. Depends on, you know, what the original paint

1250
01:13:12,095 --> 01:13:16,255
Speaker 6: system was, right, If it's a you know, it's a

1251
01:13:16,655 --> 01:13:19,055
Speaker 6: motor home or something like that, it's more than likely

1252
01:13:19,175 --> 01:13:21,335
Speaker 6: something like an automotive paint that's been put over the

1253
01:13:21,415 --> 01:13:27,615
Speaker 6: top of it, in which case, you know, it will

1254
01:13:27,895 --> 01:13:36,295
Speaker 6: probably require something a little tougher than your normal paint. Basically,

1255
01:13:36,735 --> 01:13:43,295
Speaker 6: I would think something like an X primer or something

1256
01:13:43,495 --> 01:13:46,255
Speaker 6: like that, and then maybe a couple of coats of

1257
01:13:46,455 --> 01:13:52,255
Speaker 6: just and good old house paint over the top of it. Yeah,

1258
01:13:52,975 --> 01:13:57,055
Speaker 6: or even high glow that people don't use anymore, the

1259
01:13:57,175 --> 01:14:02,015
Speaker 6: good old glossochronic. That could work, but I would probably

1260
01:14:02,215 --> 01:14:05,135
Speaker 6: do a little bit more research before you just leap

1261
01:14:05,215 --> 01:14:10,855
Speaker 6: into that. Yeah, I'm sort of I'm just sort of, yeah,

1262
01:14:11,135 --> 01:14:14,295
Speaker 6: I think that probably would work, but I'm just not

1263
01:14:14,575 --> 01:14:17,655
Speaker 6: one hundred percent sure about what the original paint would be.

1264
01:14:18,015 --> 01:14:20,055
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, So might it be a bit of a

1265
01:14:20,135 --> 01:14:23,975
Speaker 5: testing as well. Bryce, that's been fabulous this morning. Obviously

1266
01:14:24,055 --> 01:14:25,895
Speaker 5: this time of year, people are keen to get stuck

1267
01:14:25,935 --> 01:14:27,815
Speaker 5: into projects while they've got a bit of time or

1268
01:14:27,855 --> 01:14:30,735
Speaker 5: there's a few days off, so really appreciate your time.

1269
01:14:30,815 --> 01:14:33,815
Speaker 5: We've cracked through a whole bunch of texts this morning,

1270
01:14:33,895 --> 01:14:40,175
Speaker 5: so there's always appreciate your experience and your expertise. Okay, cool,

1271
01:14:40,295 --> 01:14:42,615
Speaker 5: pleasure mate, all the best, take care all right, so

1272
01:14:42,775 --> 01:14:45,535
Speaker 5: you and great advice like that you can get every

1273
01:14:45,615 --> 01:14:49,495
Speaker 5: time you visit your local Razine color shop. Well, we'll

1274
01:14:49,535 --> 01:14:52,895
Speaker 5: crack back into the calls in just a moment. So

1275
01:14:52,935 --> 01:14:55,695
Speaker 5: if you've got a question of a building nature, eight

1276
01:14:55,815 --> 01:14:58,175
Speaker 5: hundred and eighty ten eighty is that number to call.

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01:14:58,495 --> 01:15:02,135
Speaker 5: It's seven forty three sorting those summer fixes before the

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01:15:02,215 --> 01:15:07,495
Speaker 5: barbecue crowd arrives. The resident builder with Peter, call eight

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01:15:07,615 --> 01:15:11,375
Speaker 5: hundred eighty eight News Talks that be Radio. We're back

1280
01:15:11,415 --> 01:15:14,055
Speaker 5: to all things building in construction. So if you've got

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01:15:14,095 --> 01:15:17,015
Speaker 5: a question of that nature, Oh, eight hundred eighty ten

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01:15:17,135 --> 01:15:21,135
Speaker 5: eighty is the number to call. This text came in morning,

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01:15:21,255 --> 01:15:24,495
Speaker 5: just tuned in as I do every week. Thank you

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01:15:24,655 --> 01:15:27,215
Speaker 5: very much, So I hope you haven't discussed this already.

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01:15:27,295 --> 01:15:29,335
Speaker 5: Do you have any insights on the new seventy square

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01:15:29,375 --> 01:15:32,655
Speaker 5: metagranny flat not needing a building consent? Thinking about putting

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01:15:32,655 --> 01:15:34,935
Speaker 5: one in the back of our place? Should I engage

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01:15:34,935 --> 01:15:37,335
Speaker 5: a planner to help with the resource consent to start with?

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01:15:37,855 --> 01:15:41,015
Speaker 5: Be keen for any help? Thanks a lot. I'll tell

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01:15:41,055 --> 01:15:44,455
Speaker 5: you what. There's a very good summary. A guy that

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01:15:44,575 --> 01:15:46,575
Speaker 5: I've got to know over the last couple of years,

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01:15:46,655 --> 01:15:52,655
Speaker 5: Mike Blackburn, does insights into construction that he's done, a

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01:15:52,775 --> 01:15:55,255
Speaker 5: very good summary. I'm sure if you google his name,

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01:15:55,335 --> 01:15:59,015
Speaker 5: you'll you'll find it on sort of what's required some

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01:15:59,215 --> 01:16:01,735
Speaker 5: of the I guess fish hooks or things to look

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01:16:01,775 --> 01:16:05,775
Speaker 5: out for. And again, even the comment that you've put

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01:16:05,815 --> 01:16:08,015
Speaker 5: down there help with the resource consent. You won't need

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01:16:08,095 --> 01:16:11,455
Speaker 5: a resource consent for this seventy square meter building. You'll

1299
01:16:11,495 --> 01:16:14,735
Speaker 5: need to make an application to counsel to inform them,

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01:16:16,175 --> 01:16:17,975
Speaker 5: and you'll need to prove that what you're going to

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01:16:18,095 --> 01:16:22,815
Speaker 5: do complies with planning legislation where it's cited, et cetera,

1302
01:16:22,855 --> 01:16:27,375
Speaker 5: et cetera. But I don't believe that you'll need a

1303
01:16:27,415 --> 01:16:29,455
Speaker 5: resource consent for that, in the same way that you

1304
01:16:29,495 --> 01:16:32,255
Speaker 5: won't need a building consent, but you'll still need to

1305
01:16:32,335 --> 01:16:38,375
Speaker 5: comply with the local regulations. So have a look for

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01:16:38,415 --> 01:16:39,695
Speaker 5: that article. I'll see if I can get a bit

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01:16:39,695 --> 01:16:43,495
Speaker 5: more detail on it. And there's there's some interesting stuff

1308
01:16:43,615 --> 01:16:47,415
Speaker 5: from brands that's been released and a number of statements

1309
01:16:47,575 --> 01:16:51,015
Speaker 5: like organizations professional bodies like the New Zealand's due to

1310
01:16:51,095 --> 01:16:54,295
Speaker 5: building surveys and so on. Plenty of people have got

1311
01:16:54,975 --> 01:16:58,695
Speaker 5: questions about how it's going to work. Oh eight en

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01:16:58,775 --> 01:17:02,775
Speaker 5: eighty the number to call. Hello, Len, Yeah, good grit.

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01:17:04,815 --> 01:17:10,655
Speaker 8: I've got problems with my room that's built in ninety nine.

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01:17:12,295 --> 01:17:15,175
Speaker 8: In two thousand and seven, we had it painted because

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01:17:15,215 --> 01:17:20,655
Speaker 8: it was dolling up, dolling up, and twenty seventeen, sorry, yep,

1316
01:17:20,695 --> 01:17:23,815
Speaker 8: because it was dolling up and we've got a couple

1317
01:17:23,855 --> 01:17:28,775
Speaker 8: of chips of it. Yep. Then so we had it

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01:17:28,895 --> 01:17:32,215
Speaker 8: repainted again in twenty five and since it was painted

1319
01:17:32,215 --> 01:17:35,255
Speaker 8: in twenty five is on one side it's all blistered

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01:17:35,375 --> 01:17:36,055
Speaker 8: up and feeling.

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01:17:36,415 --> 01:17:41,175
Speaker 5: Yeah. So when when the roof was installed, I presume

1322
01:17:41,255 --> 01:17:46,295
Speaker 5: it's pre coated, so it's a color steel type roof,

1323
01:17:46,415 --> 01:17:48,495
Speaker 5: but it might not be color steel because there's other

1324
01:17:48,535 --> 01:17:50,535
Speaker 5: brands as well. But that's what we're talking about.

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01:17:50,535 --> 01:17:56,735
Speaker 8: Ah, yes, yeah, so I don't know what to do,

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01:17:57,135 --> 01:18:01,695
Speaker 8: you know, the guy, the guy that painted the center

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01:18:02,095 --> 01:18:14,255
Speaker 8: thinking about problem glistering and elimination of roof coating on

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01:18:14,335 --> 01:18:17,095
Speaker 8: one side of the house one E A one.

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Speaker 5: It might be as simple as you know, there was

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01:18:20,895 --> 01:18:23,175
Speaker 5: a certain type of preparation done on one side but

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01:18:23,335 --> 01:18:25,775
Speaker 5: not on the other. It might be that when the

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01:18:26,015 --> 01:18:29,455
Speaker 5: coating was applied, it was done at the wrong time

1333
01:18:29,535 --> 01:18:33,855
Speaker 5: of day, you know, or the roof might have been

1334
01:18:33,895 --> 01:18:35,895
Speaker 5: too warm. There might have been dew on the roof.

1335
01:18:36,015 --> 01:18:38,255
Speaker 5: There might have been it might have been applied late

1336
01:18:38,295 --> 01:18:41,055
Speaker 5: in the day and not able to cure, perhaps before

1337
01:18:41,175 --> 01:18:45,935
Speaker 5: the weather dropped in terms of temperature or humidity, those

1338
01:18:45,975 --> 01:18:49,095
Speaker 5: sorts of things. So it is a little bit unusual

1339
01:18:49,175 --> 01:18:51,095
Speaker 5: that it's on one side of the roof and not

1340
01:18:51,215 --> 01:18:55,935
Speaker 5: the other, surely, But it will always be about preparation.

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01:18:56,095 --> 01:18:59,575
Speaker 5: It'll be either preparation or timing that will cause the failure.

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01:19:00,015 --> 01:19:01,815
Speaker 5: I suppose. Now the question is what do you do

1343
01:19:01,975 --> 01:19:05,135
Speaker 5: with the roof that's slightly blistering, because it's not like, yes,

1344
01:19:06,295 --> 01:19:09,655
Speaker 5: resume this is over a metal profiled roof, so it's

1345
01:19:09,895 --> 01:19:14,655
Speaker 5: a corrugate or another profiled roof. Yes, what is the profile?

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01:19:14,735 --> 01:19:14,935
Speaker 11: Do you know?

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01:19:15,895 --> 01:19:23,575
Speaker 8: It's like stale form, you know, long run roofing.

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01:19:23,735 --> 01:19:26,455
Speaker 5: Yeah, long run Okay. So the hard thing is like,

1349
01:19:26,575 --> 01:19:28,935
Speaker 5: if you've got blisters on there, someone's going to have

1350
01:19:29,015 --> 01:19:31,375
Speaker 5: to go up there, maybe with a wire brush and

1351
01:19:31,495 --> 01:19:33,375
Speaker 5: try and remove that. But of course you don't want

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01:19:33,415 --> 01:19:35,175
Speaker 5: to be too aggressive with that because you don't want

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01:19:35,175 --> 01:19:40,015
Speaker 5: to start impacting on the coating too much. But at

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01:19:40,015 --> 01:19:43,175
Speaker 5: the same time that that loose material needs to be removed,

1355
01:19:43,735 --> 01:19:46,415
Speaker 5: then that needs to have the right type of primer

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01:19:46,495 --> 01:19:50,295
Speaker 5: applied to it, and then the roof's redone. The contractor

1357
01:19:50,295 --> 01:19:52,855
Speaker 5: who did it are they? You know, do you think

1358
01:19:52,895 --> 01:19:55,015
Speaker 5: if you said to them, well, look it's failed within

1359
01:19:55,055 --> 01:19:56,735
Speaker 5: a short period of time, you need to come back

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01:19:56,775 --> 01:19:58,215
Speaker 5: and fix it. Do you think they'd come back?

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01:20:00,095 --> 01:20:03,815
Speaker 8: He said he could scrape it up and repaint it.

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01:20:04,335 --> 01:20:07,895
Speaker 5: Right, Okay, Well, you know the question to ask is

1363
01:20:08,215 --> 01:20:10,215
Speaker 5: how are you going to scrape it off? And can

1364
01:20:10,295 --> 01:20:12,615
Speaker 5: you ensure that you don't cause any damage to the

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01:20:12,735 --> 01:20:15,935
Speaker 5: roof while you're doing that. But if they if they've

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01:20:15,975 --> 01:20:19,095
Speaker 5: got a system that you know, you're confident that they'll

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01:20:19,135 --> 01:20:21,655
Speaker 5: be able to do without causing further damage. Then I

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01:20:21,735 --> 01:20:25,455
Speaker 5: think it's just a preparation issue. If they come back

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01:20:25,575 --> 01:20:28,415
Speaker 5: and do that, that would be great. Good luck with

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01:20:28,535 --> 01:20:31,975
Speaker 5: you on that one. Then I can understand the frustration.

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01:20:32,215 --> 01:20:34,615
Speaker 5: So good luck with that, and hopefully the contractor does

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01:20:34,735 --> 01:20:38,255
Speaker 5: come back. It is seven fifty two. We'll take a

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01:20:38,335 --> 01:20:40,575
Speaker 5: break and take your calls after the break.

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Speaker 1: If it creaks, leaks, cracks or squeaks some is the

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01:20:44,015 --> 01:20:46,295
Speaker 1: time to get it sort of call oh, eight hundred

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01:20:46,335 --> 01:20:50,255
Speaker 1: eighty eighty the resident builder with Peter WORLFCAB news talks.

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01:20:50,295 --> 01:20:52,775
Speaker 5: There'd be indeed your news talks. They'd be coming up

1378
01:20:52,855 --> 01:20:55,055
Speaker 5: to news time top of the R at eight o'clock.

1379
01:20:55,135 --> 01:20:56,855
Speaker 5: But if you've got a question, you should call us now.

1380
01:20:56,895 --> 01:20:59,455
Speaker 5: We'll get it sorted out. We'll get you ready to

1381
01:20:59,575 --> 01:21:01,535
Speaker 5: go straight after the news top of the R at

1382
01:21:01,575 --> 01:21:04,855
Speaker 5: eight o'clock. Thanks to the texter who's sent through the

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01:21:04,975 --> 01:21:07,695
Speaker 5: link to the building dot gov dot m Z website.

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01:21:09,295 --> 01:21:11,415
Speaker 5: So I guess it's going to be interesting. Where we

1385
01:21:11,495 --> 01:21:14,415
Speaker 5: already know that what Schedule one of the Building Act

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01:21:14,535 --> 01:21:17,575
Speaker 5: allows you to do in terms of building work that

1387
01:21:17,695 --> 01:21:20,575
Speaker 5: must comply with the code but not necessarily requires a consent,

1388
01:21:20,775 --> 01:21:24,255
Speaker 5: often around maintenance and so on. But now this is

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01:21:24,535 --> 01:21:27,535
Speaker 5: a whole new world in terms of actually being able

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01:21:27,575 --> 01:21:31,175
Speaker 5: to build a habitable structure up to seventy square meters

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01:21:31,215 --> 01:21:35,815
Speaker 5: without necessarily requiring a consent. I think, you know, if

1392
01:21:35,855 --> 01:21:37,815
Speaker 5: you're a homeoony, you're still going to need well, you

1393
01:21:37,895 --> 01:21:41,295
Speaker 5: will need to engage with professionals to guide you through

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01:21:41,415 --> 01:21:45,895
Speaker 5: that process. Inevitably, I think we'll sear stories of someone

1395
01:21:46,015 --> 01:21:49,295
Speaker 5: contracting their mate to cobble it together over a weekend.

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01:21:49,415 --> 01:21:52,695
Speaker 5: But that's not what the legislation intends, right, we'll come back.

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01:21:52,695 --> 01:21:54,415
Speaker 5: We can talk more about that in the next hour

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01:21:54,455 --> 01:21:56,495
Speaker 5: of the show. And remember Rid Cline passed from eight

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01:21:56,495 --> 01:21:59,735
Speaker 5: point thirty as well. Your newstalk zed B News time

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01:21:59,895 --> 01:22:01,215
Speaker 5: coming up top of the arrad eate.

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01:22:10,855 --> 01:22:15,415
Speaker 1: Suns out, Tools out if your summer DIY starts here.

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01:22:15,735 --> 01:22:19,055
Speaker 1: The Resident builder with Peter Wolfcare call eight hundred and

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01:22:19,135 --> 01:22:20,815
Speaker 1: eighty ten eighty News Talk z B.

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01:22:21,495 --> 01:22:23,375
Speaker 5: Well, a very good morning, welcome back to the show,

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01:22:23,655 --> 01:22:26,775
Speaker 5: eight hundred eighty ten eighty. We've got through till about

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01:22:26,815 --> 01:22:30,255
Speaker 5: eight thirty to talk all things building and construction. Thereafter

1407
01:22:30,335 --> 01:22:33,415
Speaker 5: we're into the garden with root Climb past who very

1408
01:22:33,495 --> 01:22:36,455
Speaker 5: generously took a moment out of his day yesterday to

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01:22:36,615 --> 01:22:39,775
Speaker 5: answer a question from a five year a five year

1410
01:22:39,815 --> 01:22:45,015
Speaker 5: old entomologist or budding entomologist whose dad text me and went, oh, hey, look,

1411
01:22:45,255 --> 01:22:48,215
Speaker 5: Nico's been out in the bush and found this interesting

1412
01:22:48,295 --> 01:22:51,615
Speaker 5: looking spider where we can't identify it anyway. Rudd did

1413
01:22:51,655 --> 01:22:54,615
Speaker 5: within a flash, So that was awesome. Oh eight hundred.

1414
01:22:54,855 --> 01:22:56,375
Speaker 5: If you'd like to talk to rut that'll be at

1415
01:22:56,375 --> 01:22:57,975
Speaker 5: eight thirty this morning. If you'd like to talk to

1416
01:22:58,055 --> 01:23:01,935
Speaker 5: me about all things building and construction, then you can

1417
01:23:02,015 --> 01:23:05,375
Speaker 5: call now on eight hundred eighty ten eighty. That is

1418
01:23:05,655 --> 01:23:09,055
Speaker 5: the number to cour Ryan. A very good morning to you.

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01:23:10,855 --> 01:23:11,855
Speaker 14: Yeah, mate, how are you?

1420
01:23:12,055 --> 01:23:13,175
Speaker 5: You're not too bad in yourself?

1421
01:23:14,175 --> 01:23:18,735
Speaker 14: Not too bad? Hey, Yeah, we're spoken about three times

1422
01:23:18,775 --> 01:23:20,255
Speaker 14: over the last of the four years, right.

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01:23:20,375 --> 01:23:22,455
Speaker 8: Yeah, it's sort of sort of.

1424
01:23:22,655 --> 01:23:24,855
Speaker 14: A memory job. So we got a house on the

1425
01:23:25,255 --> 01:23:29,775
Speaker 14: north sure, and we're about probably three hundred and fifty

1426
01:23:29,895 --> 01:23:32,935
Speaker 14: k so far out of pocket from our builder, a

1427
01:23:33,015 --> 01:23:36,495
Speaker 14: new builder to finish the house. Yes, and we had

1428
01:23:36,535 --> 01:23:39,495
Speaker 14: sort of spoken about it. It wasn't I supposed too

1429
01:23:39,615 --> 01:23:42,135
Speaker 14: much we could we could do because it's a contract

1430
01:23:42,255 --> 01:23:46,175
Speaker 14: that we were just we're just at the last hurdle.

1431
01:23:46,295 --> 01:23:53,015
Speaker 14: Now after issues five years and everything's been done by

1432
01:23:53,095 --> 01:23:57,375
Speaker 14: other builder, I've been fantastic. Everything's been done into the handover,

1433
01:23:57,415 --> 01:24:01,255
Speaker 14: et cetera. Yep, Now we found that the previous builder

1434
01:24:01,735 --> 01:24:06,175
Speaker 14: had so they bought the weather boards obviously and registers

1435
01:24:07,175 --> 01:24:08,135
Speaker 14: with the board by it.

1436
01:24:08,215 --> 01:24:09,015
Speaker 8: That's what you call them.

1437
01:24:09,215 --> 01:24:11,815
Speaker 14: Are they given a step that they need to install

1438
01:24:11,895 --> 01:24:16,335
Speaker 14: that suit. Their councils come down, come around and said

1439
01:24:16,415 --> 01:24:22,615
Speaker 14: that they have installed the weather boards incorrectly, and there's

1440
01:24:22,655 --> 01:24:26,815
Speaker 14: a council inspection a few days into it, just because

1441
01:24:26,855 --> 01:24:28,975
Speaker 14: they it was the weather boards. Obviously, they need to

1442
01:24:29,095 --> 01:24:32,055
Speaker 14: check to make sure the facing right. They come out

1443
01:24:32,095 --> 01:24:34,335
Speaker 14: to look, they need to change them because they're outside

1444
01:24:36,535 --> 01:24:41,135
Speaker 14: or something along those lines, and they just they kept

1445
01:24:41,175 --> 01:24:42,535
Speaker 14: going into the whole house.

1446
01:24:45,175 --> 01:24:46,935
Speaker 5: Just before we go too far into the story, So

1447
01:24:47,775 --> 01:24:50,055
Speaker 5: when the original builder was on site and they were

1448
01:24:50,135 --> 01:24:54,455
Speaker 5: doing the weather board cladding they'd started, they got an

1449
01:24:54,535 --> 01:24:59,615
Speaker 5: inspection part way through it, which is interesting because typically

1450
01:24:59,695 --> 01:25:02,415
Speaker 5: it's not required. But so the inspector was there and

1451
01:25:03,055 --> 01:25:06,575
Speaker 5: issued an instruction to the builder to change the way

1452
01:25:06,615 --> 01:25:10,055
Speaker 5: that they were doing the weather boards. But that builder

1453
01:25:10,215 --> 01:25:13,175
Speaker 5: didn't listen to that and carried on it.

1454
01:25:13,295 --> 01:25:18,135
Speaker 14: Didn't listen, carried on, and now we're at the point

1455
01:25:18,215 --> 01:25:21,615
Speaker 14: where because we've had that many sort of kickbacks not

1456
01:25:21,775 --> 01:25:25,295
Speaker 14: kickbacks knocked back from them to go, what is the

1457
01:25:25,615 --> 01:25:29,175
Speaker 14: is the best avenue to go? Because there's two parts

1458
01:25:29,255 --> 01:25:34,735
Speaker 14: here is one, they haven't signed it that the contracts

1459
01:25:35,375 --> 01:25:38,375
Speaker 14: we've found out, they haven't done it under their actual

1460
01:25:39,415 --> 01:25:43,215
Speaker 14: building entity. They've done it under their family trust.

1461
01:25:44,535 --> 01:25:47,295
Speaker 5: This was your original contractor, the.

1462
01:25:47,335 --> 01:25:51,375
Speaker 14: Original contractor that did this. Yes, but they they they've

1463
01:25:51,455 --> 01:25:55,455
Speaker 14: got a they've got a building company, a franchise, and

1464
01:25:56,255 --> 01:26:00,175
Speaker 14: but the contract they signed with us was under their

1465
01:26:00,295 --> 01:26:03,495
Speaker 14: family trust. Yet all the leaderships and everything that comes

1466
01:26:03,495 --> 01:26:06,335
Speaker 14: through to us was from their franchise, which.

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01:26:06,175 --> 01:26:11,055
Speaker 5: Is sure you speak the creditable yep, I'm with you.

1468
01:26:12,215 --> 01:26:12,415
Speaker 8: Yeah.

1469
01:26:12,735 --> 01:26:18,095
Speaker 14: So obviously they haven't followed us. The council records there

1470
01:26:19,455 --> 01:26:22,855
Speaker 14: and we've got a quote to get a redone and

1471
01:26:22,895 --> 01:26:27,655
Speaker 14: another one hundred and ten thousand dollars. So just wondering

1472
01:26:27,695 --> 01:26:30,815
Speaker 14: if there's any sort of recourse on that. It were

1473
01:26:30,975 --> 01:26:34,255
Speaker 14: it's just more money down the and the tube.

1474
01:26:35,575 --> 01:26:38,495
Speaker 5: I guess there's probably two things that are going to happen.

1475
01:26:38,535 --> 01:26:41,015
Speaker 5: One is it's going to go to it's going to

1476
01:26:41,095 --> 01:26:44,455
Speaker 5: go to the lawyers, and you're going to make a claim,

1477
01:26:44,975 --> 01:26:48,415
Speaker 5: you know, for negligence on the part of the first builder,

1478
01:26:48,495 --> 01:26:51,855
Speaker 5: particularly given that you've got evidence. I you know, Counsel

1479
01:26:51,935 --> 01:26:54,855
Speaker 5: inspection told you to change it, you didn't, and therefore

1480
01:26:54,895 --> 01:26:58,455
Speaker 5: it's quite clear you've done even you've installed the weatherboards incorrectly.

1481
01:26:58,895 --> 01:27:01,695
Speaker 5: They don't meet code requirements. I'm going to have to

1482
01:27:01,735 --> 01:27:04,015
Speaker 5: pay to get them redone. I'm going to seek the

1483
01:27:04,135 --> 01:27:08,215
Speaker 5: costs back from you. The other thing would be, I

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Speaker 5: presume that the first builder who was involved in the

1485
01:27:12,295 --> 01:27:18,135
Speaker 5: project was an LBP. Yes, have you been to the

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01:27:18,375 --> 01:27:23,455
Speaker 5: LBP Disciplinary board to him because it Yeah, it would

1487
01:27:23,455 --> 01:27:28,135
Speaker 5: seem to me that they've obviously breached their duties or

1488
01:27:28,255 --> 01:27:31,975
Speaker 5: their responsibility as an LBP, so they you know, their

1489
01:27:32,055 --> 01:27:35,575
Speaker 5: work has not met the standards required of a licensed

1490
01:27:35,615 --> 01:27:39,455
Speaker 5: building practitioner, in which case you've probably got fairly strong

1491
01:27:39,495 --> 01:27:42,175
Speaker 5: grounds to go and make a complaint against them.

1492
01:27:43,335 --> 01:27:45,935
Speaker 14: Yes, And that was the gray year they wanted to ask, because,

1493
01:27:46,415 --> 01:27:48,975
Speaker 14: I mean, everyone has an opinion, but you're obviously and

1494
01:27:51,295 --> 01:27:57,935
Speaker 14: the licensed building practitioner has registered against that person under

1495
01:27:58,055 --> 01:28:02,375
Speaker 14: the what would you call it under the franchise?

1496
01:28:02,975 --> 01:28:07,135
Speaker 5: No, No, that that no, that that's not how the

1497
01:28:07,295 --> 01:28:11,135
Speaker 5: LBP scheme works. So for all of the criticism of

1498
01:28:11,215 --> 01:28:13,695
Speaker 5: the scheme, I think the best part of the scheme

1499
01:28:14,295 --> 01:28:18,095
Speaker 5: is the fact that you can't register a company. It's

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01:28:18,175 --> 01:28:21,655
Speaker 5: an individual. So you know, I've got a building company,

1501
01:28:22,575 --> 01:28:25,895
Speaker 5: but it's not my building company is not registered as

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01:28:25,895 --> 01:28:30,175
Speaker 5: an LBP. I'm registered as Peter wolf Camp BP one

1503
01:28:30,295 --> 01:28:33,655
Speaker 5: two zero zero nine to eight is my LBP number, right,

1504
01:28:34,215 --> 01:28:37,175
Speaker 5: So I could undertake work for anyone, but if I'm

1505
01:28:37,255 --> 01:28:41,095
Speaker 5: the LBP, it's my name that's on the list. So

1506
01:28:41,575 --> 01:28:45,855
Speaker 5: and you know, at the end of a project, you'll

1507
01:28:45,935 --> 01:28:49,855
Speaker 5: have a record of works or a memorandum works from

1508
01:28:49,935 --> 01:28:55,135
Speaker 5: all of the lbps that undertook all of the restricted

1509
01:28:55,175 --> 01:28:58,255
Speaker 5: building work. And it might be an LBP for the foundations,

1510
01:28:58,295 --> 01:29:00,575
Speaker 5: it might be one for the framing, it might be

1511
01:29:00,735 --> 01:29:02,695
Speaker 5: one for the waterproofing that sort of thing, and it

1512
01:29:02,735 --> 01:29:08,015
Speaker 5: will be an individual. An individual is responsible for this, okay.

1513
01:29:08,215 --> 01:29:14,375
Speaker 14: And if because the contract with or his company the LP,

1514
01:29:15,415 --> 01:29:18,095
Speaker 14: if he had a contractor that came in to do it,

1515
01:29:18,335 --> 01:29:21,975
Speaker 14: so we have the main contract with this person is

1516
01:29:22,135 --> 01:29:24,815
Speaker 14: peace or liable or he then go, well, actually wasn't

1517
01:29:26,815 --> 01:29:27,495
Speaker 14: my contract?

1518
01:29:28,335 --> 01:29:30,935
Speaker 5: Yeah, well this is This is always one of the challenges. So,

1519
01:29:31,135 --> 01:29:33,015
Speaker 5: you know, if you've got a large building firm, right,

1520
01:29:34,975 --> 01:29:38,095
Speaker 5: you could, if you're an LBP running that firm, you

1521
01:29:38,215 --> 01:29:40,735
Speaker 5: could sign the work off yourself and say, because what

1522
01:29:40,855 --> 01:29:44,375
Speaker 5: the requirement is is that you the work is either

1523
01:29:44,455 --> 01:29:49,215
Speaker 5: done or supervised by. I think one of the challenges

1524
01:29:49,335 --> 01:29:52,375
Speaker 5: that we've got, and I think even council inspectors will

1525
01:29:52,415 --> 01:29:55,175
Speaker 5: acknowledge this, is that what you might find in a

1526
01:29:55,295 --> 01:29:58,775
Speaker 5: large development or on a subdivision is you've got one LBP,

1527
01:29:59,975 --> 01:30:03,175
Speaker 5: you know who who their name is attached to let's

1528
01:30:03,175 --> 01:30:06,215
Speaker 5: say the framing or the cladding of ten or four

1529
01:30:06,295 --> 01:30:10,895
Speaker 5: fifteen houses. Now, realistically, speaking with the greatest respect to

1530
01:30:10,975 --> 01:30:14,815
Speaker 5: anybody else's ability, they're unlikely to be able to supervise

1531
01:30:14,935 --> 01:30:20,935
Speaker 5: those adequately, I think. But so that that's a problem

1532
01:30:21,015 --> 01:30:24,695
Speaker 5: with the system, you know. But they but even if they,

1533
01:30:25,175 --> 01:30:27,255
Speaker 5: even if the you know, the LBP decides well, look,

1534
01:30:27,255 --> 01:30:28,855
Speaker 5: I'm going to sign my name to all of these

1535
01:30:28,935 --> 01:30:31,375
Speaker 5: records of work saying that I supervised it. If there's

1536
01:30:31,415 --> 01:30:36,255
Speaker 5: a problem, it becomes that person's problem. Right, So this

1537
01:30:36,495 --> 01:30:38,615
Speaker 5: is the Again, the best thing about the system is

1538
01:30:39,215 --> 01:30:41,735
Speaker 5: there will be a name and a number attached to

1539
01:30:41,855 --> 01:30:46,015
Speaker 5: that work and that person is responsible for it. Yees,

1540
01:30:49,215 --> 01:30:52,295
Speaker 5: so I and you know it might be that ABC

1541
01:30:52,535 --> 01:30:59,095
Speaker 5: Builders is building fifteen houses, but whoever the builder, the

1542
01:30:59,175 --> 01:31:01,935
Speaker 5: license building practitioner doing the work, they will be an

1543
01:31:01,975 --> 01:31:07,495
Speaker 5: individual in which so I think they're the ones who

1544
01:31:07,695 --> 01:31:12,335
Speaker 5: are responsible for it. So I think it sounds like

1545
01:31:12,535 --> 01:31:15,015
Speaker 5: you know, it's awful to hear that you're in this situation.

1546
01:31:15,655 --> 01:31:18,175
Speaker 5: It's going to end up with your lawyers. But I

1547
01:31:18,255 --> 01:31:21,295
Speaker 5: would also, given the poor quality of the work that's

1548
01:31:21,335 --> 01:31:25,935
Speaker 5: been done, identify who the building license building practitioners were

1549
01:31:27,015 --> 01:31:30,135
Speaker 5: and I would go to the disciplinary board about them

1550
01:31:30,135 --> 01:31:30,495
Speaker 5: as well.

1551
01:31:31,655 --> 01:31:33,615
Speaker 14: Yeah, we've taken about a year and a half to

1552
01:31:33,695 --> 01:31:37,375
Speaker 14: get all the record of work. Yes, they dragged the

1553
01:31:37,495 --> 01:31:37,895
Speaker 14: chain of it.

1554
01:31:37,975 --> 01:31:38,575
Speaker 6: On that so.

1555
01:31:40,375 --> 01:31:44,535
Speaker 5: See even that it's a statutory requirement. If you've finished

1556
01:31:44,575 --> 01:31:48,415
Speaker 5: a piece of work, you must assure a record of works, right,

1557
01:31:49,775 --> 01:31:52,615
Speaker 5: the law is quite clear you can't hold on to it.

1558
01:31:52,815 --> 01:31:55,495
Speaker 5: You can't hold on to the record of works until

1559
01:31:55,535 --> 01:31:58,295
Speaker 5: you get paid for example, which is a ploy that

1560
01:31:58,455 --> 01:32:01,015
Speaker 5: people will use. As soon as you finish the work,

1561
01:32:01,175 --> 01:32:02,975
Speaker 5: you write out the record of work and you hand

1562
01:32:03,055 --> 01:32:06,375
Speaker 5: it into whoever is responsible for the overall job. You

1563
01:32:07,135 --> 01:32:08,575
Speaker 5: have to do them straight away.

1564
01:32:09,655 --> 01:32:11,895
Speaker 14: Yeah, because it's it's still being paid for as well,

1565
01:32:11,975 --> 01:32:16,815
Speaker 14: so it's not like we're with payment. So those the

1566
01:32:16,855 --> 01:32:19,695
Speaker 14: other I mean, the one thing we haven't done because

1567
01:32:20,215 --> 01:32:23,655
Speaker 14: the next thing we've get done for defamation is I've

1568
01:32:23,695 --> 01:32:26,415
Speaker 14: got a that they and I don't want to be

1569
01:32:26,575 --> 01:32:33,855
Speaker 14: faspicious here, but they do actually have a franchise which

1570
01:32:34,735 --> 01:32:39,135
Speaker 14: seemingly is quite successful in the area of Aubor that

1571
01:32:40,815 --> 01:32:43,335
Speaker 14: you know, I could quite quickly highlight the works as

1572
01:32:43,375 --> 01:32:47,215
Speaker 14: I've gone on our property or have you seen instances

1573
01:32:47,295 --> 01:32:53,255
Speaker 14: where that just sort of flips around the opposite way? Yeah,

1574
01:32:53,295 --> 01:32:56,015
Speaker 14: I mean you're not a lawyer, No.

1575
01:32:56,055 --> 01:32:59,135
Speaker 5: No, no, I guess you know, you would think that

1576
01:32:59,255 --> 01:33:02,335
Speaker 5: all companies would be interested in protecting their reputation, some,

1577
01:33:02,655 --> 01:33:06,055
Speaker 5: I guess more so than others. I think sometimes with

1578
01:33:06,615 --> 01:33:11,015
Speaker 5: larger networks, you know, or group home builders. Maybe with

1579
01:33:11,335 --> 01:33:14,775
Speaker 5: and I say this out of respect with franchise builders, sometimes,

1580
01:33:15,135 --> 01:33:18,495
Speaker 5: you know, the person running the franchise might not always

1581
01:33:18,615 --> 01:33:23,135
Speaker 5: know exactly what's happening on every single site, so it

1582
01:33:23,295 --> 01:33:25,935
Speaker 5: can be a bit of a surprise when a homeowner goes,

1583
01:33:26,215 --> 01:33:29,175
Speaker 5: you know, further up the chain and says to the

1584
01:33:29,295 --> 01:33:31,815
Speaker 5: more senior people. Hey, look, this has been my experience.

1585
01:33:32,215 --> 01:33:34,015
Speaker 5: But I was talking to the project manager. He said,

1586
01:33:34,055 --> 01:33:36,735
Speaker 5: it's been an awesome job. Okay, well he's he's a

1587
01:33:36,775 --> 01:33:40,695
Speaker 5: bit more information. So I think in your case, I

1588
01:33:40,735 --> 01:33:44,855
Speaker 5: wouldn't announce anything publicly, but it's worth taking your concerns

1589
01:33:44,975 --> 01:33:46,215
Speaker 5: further up the tree as well.

1590
01:33:47,615 --> 01:33:50,775
Speaker 14: Okay, Okay, yeah, Look, thank you very.

1591
01:33:50,735 --> 01:33:51,015
Speaker 8: Much for that.

1592
01:33:51,175 --> 01:33:53,695
Speaker 5: No, please stay in touch and I always I mean, look,

1593
01:33:54,135 --> 01:33:55,895
Speaker 5: it's not a great thing to be talking about, but

1594
01:33:56,015 --> 01:33:59,975
Speaker 5: it's it is a very very important issue that you've raised,

1595
01:34:00,055 --> 01:34:02,975
Speaker 5: so I really appreciate it. Right, we've got to run

1596
01:34:03,095 --> 01:34:05,775
Speaker 5: for a break. Thanks very much. We'll talk to Alan

1597
01:34:06,415 --> 01:34:08,935
Speaker 5: to the break, and then remember rid climb passed from

1598
01:34:09,055 --> 01:34:12,735
Speaker 5: eight point thirty this morning. It is eight eighteen from.

1599
01:34:12,615 --> 01:34:14,655
Speaker 2: Summer backyard jobs to Big Rennolds.

1600
01:34:14,855 --> 01:34:17,415
Speaker 1: Let's talk it through call oh eight hundred and eighty

1601
01:34:17,455 --> 01:34:21,375
Speaker 1: ten eighty the resident building with Peterwilcab News talks AB.

1602
01:34:22,095 --> 01:34:25,015
Speaker 5: Yeah, News TALKSB. We're talking all things building in construction

1603
01:34:25,215 --> 01:34:27,495
Speaker 5: for the next couple of minutes anyway, and then we're

1604
01:34:27,575 --> 01:34:32,495
Speaker 5: into the garden with red climb past colin text how

1605
01:34:32,575 --> 01:34:35,615
Speaker 5: do you install weatherboards incorrectly? I just don't get it.

1606
01:34:36,895 --> 01:34:40,535
Speaker 5: I think the most common issue is either having insufficient

1607
01:34:40,695 --> 01:34:46,015
Speaker 5: lap or potentially having too much lap. So and it

1608
01:34:46,255 --> 01:34:49,575
Speaker 5: might also be if it's a specific type of weatherboard system,

1609
01:34:50,735 --> 01:34:55,015
Speaker 5: not sort of your standard bevel back, it could be

1610
01:34:55,215 --> 01:34:59,495
Speaker 5: that they've just not followed the manufacturer's instructions. So some

1611
01:34:59,695 --> 01:35:01,935
Speaker 5: boards are fixed only at the top, some boards are

1612
01:35:01,975 --> 01:35:04,815
Speaker 5: only fixed at the bottom, that sort of thing. So, yeah,

1613
01:35:05,175 --> 01:35:08,575
Speaker 5: I know it's when you first hear that you go,

1614
01:35:08,855 --> 01:35:11,015
Speaker 5: how you know we've been doing weather boards for what

1615
01:35:11,735 --> 01:35:14,295
Speaker 5: one hundred and fifty years? How is it people don't

1616
01:35:14,295 --> 01:35:17,575
Speaker 5: know how to do them? But hey, human beings are amazing.

1617
01:35:17,775 --> 01:35:22,415
Speaker 5: Twenty two minutes after eight, Hello Ellen, morning, pay Ellen.

1618
01:35:22,615 --> 01:35:25,415
Speaker 15: I might be covering the same ground you did with

1619
01:35:25,615 --> 01:35:29,535
Speaker 15: the last chorus. So now I'm an old builder from

1620
01:35:29,535 --> 01:35:34,335
Speaker 15: way back. Yep, what's wrong with the self build years ago?

1621
01:35:34,495 --> 01:35:36,695
Speaker 15: You could just self build. I'm sure anyone today can

1622
01:35:36,735 --> 01:35:39,495
Speaker 15: still self self built. I saw the announcement with the

1623
01:35:39,655 --> 01:35:42,695
Speaker 15: seventy square meter gain flaps and you have to go

1624
01:35:42,855 --> 01:35:44,575
Speaker 15: to a professional building consultant.

1625
01:35:45,175 --> 01:35:47,375
Speaker 8: Well that is true, was it? You can self build

1626
01:35:47,415 --> 01:35:47,855
Speaker 8: it yourself?

1627
01:35:47,935 --> 01:35:50,215
Speaker 15: You're right, I'm sure you still can.

1628
01:35:51,135 --> 01:35:54,935
Speaker 5: Or maybe not maybe not. I tell you what, it's

1629
01:35:54,975 --> 01:35:58,975
Speaker 5: a great question, and I don't absolutely have the answer,

1630
01:35:59,055 --> 01:36:00,895
Speaker 5: but I will. I will do some reading and some

1631
01:36:01,055 --> 01:36:05,455
Speaker 5: research this week. So what you're saying is once the

1632
01:36:05,575 --> 01:36:08,695
Speaker 5: License Building practition or when the Licensed Building Practitioner scheme

1633
01:36:08,815 --> 01:36:11,775
Speaker 5: came in, which was what twenty ten through twenty twelve,

1634
01:36:13,575 --> 01:36:16,855
Speaker 5: it created this idea of restricted building work. Restricted building

1635
01:36:16,895 --> 01:36:20,095
Speaker 5: work could only be done by an LBP. Except what

1636
01:36:20,215 --> 01:36:23,015
Speaker 5: they didn't, right, you can still self built, That's right.

1637
01:36:23,055 --> 01:36:24,695
Speaker 5: That's so I was going to say, except there is

1638
01:36:24,735 --> 01:36:28,735
Speaker 5: an exception, which is if you are a homeowner building

1639
01:36:28,855 --> 01:36:32,095
Speaker 5: for yourself, you can apply for an exemption to that.

1640
01:36:32,335 --> 01:36:36,615
Speaker 5: And it's the self build exemption, which is it's limited.

1641
01:36:36,855 --> 01:36:39,255
Speaker 5: You can only do it a number of times. Right,

1642
01:36:39,375 --> 01:36:41,695
Speaker 5: So it's not like you can avoid the LBP scheme

1643
01:36:41,775 --> 01:36:44,655
Speaker 5: and just keep on building without being an LBP. So

1644
01:36:44,775 --> 01:36:48,695
Speaker 5: that allows for that, Whether or not, given that you

1645
01:36:48,735 --> 01:36:52,335
Speaker 5: don't need a building consent for the my for the

1646
01:36:52,415 --> 01:36:56,975
Speaker 5: granny flats, would you be able to go to counsel

1647
01:36:57,095 --> 01:37:01,095
Speaker 5: and say I want to apply for a self built

1648
01:37:01,335 --> 01:37:05,015
Speaker 5: exemption and not have to use an LBP for the construction.

1649
01:37:07,295 --> 01:37:12,095
Speaker 5: I will find out. I don't know maybe though withdrawn

1650
01:37:12,215 --> 01:37:16,175
Speaker 5: that exemption because they want to make sure that professionals

1651
01:37:16,215 --> 01:37:18,775
Speaker 5: are involved in the construction of these, given that there's

1652
01:37:18,895 --> 01:37:23,015
Speaker 5: no inspections. Right, So I guess the safety part of

1653
01:37:23,055 --> 01:37:26,615
Speaker 5: it was. Let's say you're a homeowner with suitable skills

1654
01:37:27,215 --> 01:37:33,575
Speaker 5: and you want to build a minor SSD, a simple

1655
01:37:33,615 --> 01:37:39,015
Speaker 5: standalone dwelling in your backyard without getting a consent. If

1656
01:37:39,175 --> 01:37:44,095
Speaker 5: you were doing it under the old legislation, at least

1657
01:37:44,135 --> 01:37:46,895
Speaker 5: there'd be the surety of a council inspector coming to

1658
01:37:46,975 --> 01:37:50,175
Speaker 5: see your work. But if you were not an LVP

1659
01:37:50,495 --> 01:37:53,615
Speaker 5: and there were no inspections, is that too much risk.

1660
01:37:55,535 --> 01:37:55,935
Speaker 8: Of worms?

1661
01:37:57,015 --> 01:37:59,255
Speaker 5: Indeed, we have you and I could go fishing with

1662
01:37:59,335 --> 01:38:00,495
Speaker 5: a can of worms. That big.

1663
01:38:04,815 --> 01:38:05,215
Speaker 3: I tell you.

1664
01:38:05,575 --> 01:38:08,415
Speaker 5: I promise I will write myself a note now and

1665
01:38:08,535 --> 01:38:10,295
Speaker 5: I will go off and do a little bit of

1666
01:38:10,735 --> 01:38:14,775
Speaker 5: reading on that. Thank you. That's awesome. That's given me

1667
01:38:14,815 --> 01:38:16,455
Speaker 5: something to do this week. Not that I don't have

1668
01:38:16,535 --> 01:38:19,775
Speaker 5: other things to do, but I'm looking forward to that. Hey,

1669
01:38:19,775 --> 01:38:23,135
Speaker 5: I love talking with you as always. That's actually that's

1670
01:38:23,175 --> 01:38:26,775
Speaker 5: a very very very good question. I will go and

1671
01:38:26,895 --> 01:38:29,695
Speaker 5: do some research, and in fact I've got a call

1672
01:38:29,815 --> 01:38:34,375
Speaker 5: in to Mike Blackburn. So if you look online, even

1673
01:38:34,455 --> 01:38:37,135
Speaker 5: in Facebook and that sort of thing, Mike writes a

1674
01:38:37,255 --> 01:38:41,415
Speaker 5: number of articles. He does insights into particularly Canterbury construction,

1675
01:38:42,495 --> 01:38:46,295
Speaker 5: and he's written a pretty good summary of the Grannie

1676
01:38:46,375 --> 01:38:50,375
Speaker 5: Flat legislation and some of his concerns around it. So

1677
01:38:50,455 --> 01:38:52,935
Speaker 5: have a look at that online, righty oh. I think

1678
01:38:52,975 --> 01:38:54,775
Speaker 5: we'll take a short break. We'll take a breath, we'll

1679
01:38:54,815 --> 01:38:57,615
Speaker 5: take some ads, we'll get rid up, and we're into

1680
01:38:57,695 --> 01:39:00,335
Speaker 5: the garden ladies and gentlemen. It is coming up to

1681
01:39:00,415 --> 01:39:03,375
Speaker 5: gardening time, or the wonderful world of bug time. Rit

1682
01:39:03,415 --> 01:39:05,495
Speaker 5: Cline past will be with us after the break.

1683
01:39:06,855 --> 01:39:12,375
Speaker 1: Sawdust, sunshine and solid advice. The Resident Builder with Peter Wolfcamp.

1684
01:39:12,535 --> 01:39:15,255
Speaker 1: Call O eight hundred eighty ten eighty news Talk Said B.

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01:39:16,055 --> 01:39:18,575
Speaker 1: For more from the Resident Builder with Peter wolf Camp,

1686
01:39:18,735 --> 01:39:21,335
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01:39:21,375 --> 01:39:24,255
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