1 00:00:07,133 --> 00:00:10,453 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Saturday Morning with Jack team podcast 2 00:00:10,573 --> 00:00:12,893 Speaker 1: from news Talks at be Now. 3 00:00:12,933 --> 00:00:17,173 Speaker 2: Cook Niki Wicks is here this morning. Good morning, Yes, 4 00:00:17,293 --> 00:00:18,693 Speaker 2: good morning Jack. 5 00:00:18,853 --> 00:00:20,093 Speaker 3: I loved your intro. 6 00:00:20,413 --> 00:00:22,933 Speaker 2: Oh have you been to Dimitris? 7 00:00:23,493 --> 00:00:27,333 Speaker 4: I sure have I I waited outside. This was pre earthquake. 8 00:00:27,533 --> 00:00:29,293 Speaker 2: Oh yes, so it was in. 9 00:00:29,253 --> 00:00:31,493 Speaker 4: Their old their old location. I remember queuing for one 10 00:00:31,493 --> 00:00:33,693 Speaker 4: of those beautiful suvlaki sandwiches. 11 00:00:34,093 --> 00:00:35,453 Speaker 2: What do you think makes it so? 12 00:00:35,453 --> 00:00:35,573 Speaker 3: So? 13 00:00:36,293 --> 00:00:37,453 Speaker 2: I was thinking of this kind. 14 00:00:37,293 --> 00:00:40,813 Speaker 5: Of kind of a primal thing about just hot, hot 15 00:00:40,813 --> 00:00:42,653 Speaker 5: bread and hot meat. And actually we're going to talk 16 00:00:42,653 --> 00:00:44,333 Speaker 5: about it. You're used to be this morning as well 17 00:00:44,333 --> 00:00:46,333 Speaker 5: in just a couple of minutes, which is fantastic. But 18 00:00:47,773 --> 00:00:51,213 Speaker 5: what do you think it is about the Dimitri's combination 19 00:00:51,333 --> 00:00:54,893 Speaker 5: that is such a winner? Why has that souvlaki become 20 00:00:54,933 --> 00:00:55,453 Speaker 5: so popular? 21 00:00:55,453 --> 00:00:55,893 Speaker 2: Do you reckon? 22 00:00:56,333 --> 00:00:59,573 Speaker 4: Because I think our well, I think in terms of 23 00:00:59,573 --> 00:01:01,733 Speaker 4: our mouth. Our mouth loves fat. 24 00:01:01,453 --> 00:01:04,013 Speaker 3: And acidity, that's what it loves. And salt. 25 00:01:04,453 --> 00:01:07,093 Speaker 4: So you've got fatty, salty lad and then you've got 26 00:01:07,093 --> 00:01:10,613 Speaker 4: that beautiful tart dressing that's full of acidity, you know, 27 00:01:10,653 --> 00:01:13,013 Speaker 4: with yogurt and lemon juice and mint and all that 28 00:01:13,093 --> 00:01:13,613 Speaker 4: kind of thing. 29 00:01:13,773 --> 00:01:16,533 Speaker 3: So and yeah, and golf course, the garlic. 30 00:01:16,773 --> 00:01:19,293 Speaker 4: And I also think there's something really attractive about being 31 00:01:19,293 --> 00:01:21,773 Speaker 4: just sort of being able to sort of hand hold 32 00:01:21,933 --> 00:01:22,653 Speaker 4: a whole meal. 33 00:01:22,933 --> 00:01:25,173 Speaker 2: I totally agree. I agree. 34 00:01:26,453 --> 00:01:28,893 Speaker 5: I feel like these things are scratching the caveman brain, 35 00:01:29,373 --> 00:01:31,213 Speaker 5: all of them. You know, it's a really it's a 36 00:01:31,333 --> 00:01:33,573 Speaker 5: kind of it's a it's kind of there's something kind 37 00:01:33,573 --> 00:01:35,933 Speaker 5: of visceral about it, like you're using all of your 38 00:01:36,013 --> 00:01:37,373 Speaker 5: senses when you eat with your band. 39 00:01:37,893 --> 00:01:38,933 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I reckon. 40 00:01:39,013 --> 00:01:41,173 Speaker 3: I can still remember actually at the other end of 41 00:01:41,213 --> 00:01:42,813 Speaker 3: the spectrum going to review. 42 00:01:43,973 --> 00:01:47,653 Speaker 4: Merediths, which was road Michael Budath's restaurant, and his first 43 00:01:47,773 --> 00:01:50,413 Speaker 4: course that he sent out was a tiny little beetroot 44 00:01:50,493 --> 00:01:53,053 Speaker 4: macaroon and you had to eat it in your hand, 45 00:01:53,453 --> 00:01:55,973 Speaker 4: and that's so odd for a fine dining restaurant. But 46 00:01:56,013 --> 00:01:59,013 Speaker 4: I remember thinking, oh, that's a good ploy because straight 47 00:01:59,053 --> 00:02:01,973 Speaker 4: away we're engaged, we're slightly off put, but in a 48 00:02:02,013 --> 00:02:02,493 Speaker 4: good way. 49 00:02:02,693 --> 00:02:08,333 Speaker 5: It's kind of involving senses there you Yeah, no, dimetris, 50 00:02:08,413 --> 00:02:11,973 Speaker 5: I'm so happy that that forty years congratulations, that's just brilliant. 51 00:02:12,533 --> 00:02:14,973 Speaker 3: And I think we love a sandwich. I do sandwiches. 52 00:02:14,973 --> 00:02:17,293 Speaker 4: I was thinking, I loved your intro because I'm doing 53 00:02:17,293 --> 00:02:18,813 Speaker 4: Poe Boys, but we love a. 54 00:02:18,853 --> 00:02:20,213 Speaker 3: Bar and Me from Vietnam. 55 00:02:20,333 --> 00:02:21,733 Speaker 2: Again. It's what meat. 56 00:02:21,893 --> 00:02:24,653 Speaker 4: It's kind of acidity crammed in there with all the 57 00:02:24,693 --> 00:02:27,733 Speaker 4: pow pow of the herbs and a good dressing. Mufpha 58 00:02:27,813 --> 00:02:31,493 Speaker 4: letters are a kind of an Italian sandwich. That is, 59 00:02:32,293 --> 00:02:34,133 Speaker 4: you put a big sort of olive salad in there. 60 00:02:34,173 --> 00:02:34,853 Speaker 3: You smear the. 61 00:02:34,773 --> 00:02:37,893 Speaker 4: Bread with crushed up lots of olives and garlic and 62 00:02:37,893 --> 00:02:40,133 Speaker 4: and so that's salty and fantasy and they just layer 63 00:02:40,133 --> 00:02:42,653 Speaker 4: it up with as much meat as you can. But 64 00:02:42,733 --> 00:02:46,213 Speaker 4: Poe Boys, yeah, from New Orleans. I have just finished 65 00:02:46,253 --> 00:02:51,573 Speaker 4: making a batch for some some actors tonight on stage. 66 00:02:53,893 --> 00:02:56,973 Speaker 4: I think you're gonna eat them on stage, which is fantastic. 67 00:02:57,013 --> 00:02:58,533 Speaker 4: So I have to make sure I used a soft 68 00:02:58,533 --> 00:03:01,013 Speaker 4: fun not a big old baguette, otherwise they're going to 69 00:03:01,053 --> 00:03:02,573 Speaker 4: have their mouthful of beget for a very long time. 70 00:03:02,573 --> 00:03:04,573 Speaker 3: They won't be able to get their lines out. 71 00:03:04,693 --> 00:03:07,013 Speaker 4: So it's a play called Poe Boys and Always, and 72 00:03:07,053 --> 00:03:12,973 Speaker 4: it opens the Alt Festival of Black Arts, and that 73 00:03:13,053 --> 00:03:15,053 Speaker 4: goes for a couple of a couple of weeks, goes 74 00:03:15,093 --> 00:03:17,093 Speaker 4: through to December, so people should get along. 75 00:03:17,133 --> 00:03:19,653 Speaker 3: It's called a phoba for short, which I sounds like 76 00:03:19,693 --> 00:03:22,493 Speaker 3: aqua fever. But this is exciting, so I really had 77 00:03:22,533 --> 00:03:24,133 Speaker 3: to think about, oh, how are they going to eat the. 78 00:03:24,173 --> 00:03:26,213 Speaker 4: So my ones that I've made them are not as spicy, 79 00:03:26,253 --> 00:03:27,653 Speaker 4: but this is what you do. You got to make 80 00:03:27,653 --> 00:03:30,093 Speaker 4: a bit of a spicy mayo. I put mayo, and 81 00:03:30,093 --> 00:03:32,613 Speaker 4: this is just my version Thousand Island dressing in there. 82 00:03:32,773 --> 00:03:36,013 Speaker 4: A bit of hot sauce, one teaspoon of smoked paprika 83 00:03:36,093 --> 00:03:38,373 Speaker 4: is great, a little bit of worse stars short sauce 84 00:03:38,373 --> 00:03:40,453 Speaker 4: and I never know how to say that, and a 85 00:03:40,773 --> 00:03:42,853 Speaker 4: teaspoon of horseradish and a squeeze of lemon. 86 00:03:42,933 --> 00:03:46,093 Speaker 3: So straight away, Jack, you've got that spicy sauce getting 87 00:03:46,133 --> 00:03:46,493 Speaker 3: in there. 88 00:03:47,093 --> 00:03:49,293 Speaker 4: And then essentially you just get along by geat and 89 00:03:50,213 --> 00:03:53,213 Speaker 4: you fry off some moises and some prawns and I 90 00:03:53,333 --> 00:03:54,653 Speaker 4: just dust them in a little bit of a sort 91 00:03:54,693 --> 00:03:57,093 Speaker 4: of cage and flavored dusting of. 92 00:03:57,173 --> 00:03:58,613 Speaker 3: Mixture of flour and corn meal. 93 00:03:58,853 --> 00:04:00,413 Speaker 4: Put a bit of cay and pepper in there, some 94 00:04:00,533 --> 00:04:03,933 Speaker 4: dried thyme, some oregano, a little bit of I didn't 95 00:04:03,933 --> 00:04:08,853 Speaker 4: have any onion or garlics or powdered stuff because they 96 00:04:08,853 --> 00:04:10,813 Speaker 4: don't have that, but that's okay. Just put some salt in, 97 00:04:10,813 --> 00:04:14,173 Speaker 4: a bit of garlics through it. Anyway, oil for fry 98 00:04:14,173 --> 00:04:16,093 Speaker 4: and do just dust off your prawns and your oysters 99 00:04:16,093 --> 00:04:18,493 Speaker 4: and you fry those at the last minute so you're 100 00:04:18,533 --> 00:04:19,773 Speaker 4: on everything else with your. 101 00:04:19,693 --> 00:04:21,933 Speaker 3: Baguette or your roll to be already. 102 00:04:22,213 --> 00:04:26,613 Speaker 4: Shredded lettuce, sliced tomatoes, pickles, I use onions and gurkins, 103 00:04:27,493 --> 00:04:30,213 Speaker 4: lots of that hot sauce and then lots of these 104 00:04:30,613 --> 00:04:33,613 Speaker 4: hot fried, crispy prawns and oysters. 105 00:04:34,133 --> 00:04:36,733 Speaker 3: You could also do them with roast beef. That's another sort. 106 00:04:36,613 --> 00:04:37,533 Speaker 2: Of poe boy idea. 107 00:04:38,373 --> 00:04:43,893 Speaker 4: Yeah, and came from came from a deli that served 108 00:04:43,933 --> 00:04:48,173 Speaker 4: these up to people striking in New Orleans in nineteen 109 00:04:48,453 --> 00:04:51,613 Speaker 4: twenty nine, I think. So they served them to all 110 00:04:51,613 --> 00:04:54,813 Speaker 4: the lads who were striking, and they called them poe boys, 111 00:04:54,893 --> 00:04:58,853 Speaker 4: I for the poor boys we're not working, because they 112 00:04:58,853 --> 00:05:01,973 Speaker 4: were standing on their principal So yeah, and then it 113 00:05:02,013 --> 00:05:02,893 Speaker 4: became such a thing. 114 00:05:02,973 --> 00:05:04,813 Speaker 3: So that's where poe boy comes from. And I love 115 00:05:04,813 --> 00:05:05,573 Speaker 3: it so good. 116 00:05:05,733 --> 00:05:08,733 Speaker 5: I remember, I've only been to New Orleans once and 117 00:05:08,773 --> 00:05:11,333 Speaker 5: it's one of those places I desperately want to return. 118 00:05:11,373 --> 00:05:13,733 Speaker 5: I actually went by myself as well. I was there 119 00:05:13,773 --> 00:05:17,213 Speaker 5: for work, and I like desperately would love to go 120 00:05:17,253 --> 00:05:18,773 Speaker 5: there with a family and you know, go there with 121 00:05:18,813 --> 00:05:21,773 Speaker 5: some mates or something like that. But I remember before 122 00:05:21,813 --> 00:05:25,653 Speaker 5: I went, I sort of plotted out in between all 123 00:05:25,693 --> 00:05:27,253 Speaker 5: of my work. I was like, right, if I'm here 124 00:05:27,293 --> 00:05:29,413 Speaker 5: in New Orleans for seventy two hours or you know, 125 00:05:29,493 --> 00:05:31,933 Speaker 5: three days or whatever, I'm like, this is where every 126 00:05:32,013 --> 00:05:34,853 Speaker 5: meal is going to be. But I distinctly remember getting 127 00:05:34,853 --> 00:05:37,333 Speaker 5: in on a really early flight and then the first 128 00:05:37,373 --> 00:05:38,693 Speaker 5: thing I did was go and get a po boy 129 00:05:38,733 --> 00:05:41,533 Speaker 5: for lunch, and it was just oh yeah, you know, 130 00:05:41,613 --> 00:05:43,733 Speaker 5: with the pawns and just everything was so. 131 00:05:44,253 --> 00:05:46,893 Speaker 3: We've got shrimp as they call it, because it's. 132 00:05:47,413 --> 00:05:51,373 Speaker 5: A really distinct cuisine, like Cajun cuisine is a really 133 00:05:51,413 --> 00:05:54,013 Speaker 5: distinct you know. And and yeah, New Orleans are real, 134 00:05:55,133 --> 00:05:57,373 Speaker 5: you know, a real culinary destination, don't you think? 135 00:05:57,733 --> 00:05:57,973 Speaker 3: Yeah? 136 00:05:58,093 --> 00:05:58,653 Speaker 2: I do think. 137 00:05:58,693 --> 00:06:00,893 Speaker 3: So we did. We did a show out for a 138 00:06:00,933 --> 00:06:02,013 Speaker 3: World Kitchen out of here. 139 00:06:02,093 --> 00:06:02,293 Speaker 1: Yeah. 140 00:06:02,413 --> 00:06:05,573 Speaker 4: They had the Magic the Magic Trio which is onions, peppers, 141 00:06:05,653 --> 00:06:09,133 Speaker 4: and salary, and that permeates. 142 00:06:08,653 --> 00:06:09,573 Speaker 3: A lot of the cuisine. 143 00:06:09,573 --> 00:06:11,453 Speaker 4: It's kind of like their little fry off beforehand, and 144 00:06:11,453 --> 00:06:14,013 Speaker 4: then you add things. I thought it was absolutely fantastic 145 00:06:14,013 --> 00:06:16,853 Speaker 4: place for you know, the culture of food there, Vignier. 146 00:06:16,693 --> 00:06:18,373 Speaker 2: Those beautiful donuts that. 147 00:06:18,333 --> 00:06:20,453 Speaker 3: Come from there. You know, they don't actually ridge it 148 00:06:20,453 --> 00:06:21,773 Speaker 3: over from there, but you know all of that. 149 00:06:21,933 --> 00:06:23,533 Speaker 4: Yeah, I thought it was really fantastic, and I was 150 00:06:23,613 --> 00:06:27,213 Speaker 4: interested that the herbs and spices were all quite basic, 151 00:06:27,293 --> 00:06:29,333 Speaker 4: but when you put them in the combination, you're like. 152 00:06:29,653 --> 00:06:32,093 Speaker 3: Oh, oh my god, that's for disticking New Orleans favorite. 153 00:06:32,373 --> 00:06:33,293 Speaker 3: Absolutely beautiful. 154 00:06:33,373 --> 00:06:35,293 Speaker 2: Yeah, love it. Hey, thank you so much. Those Poe 155 00:06:35,293 --> 00:06:36,173 Speaker 2: Boys sound amazing. 156 00:06:36,773 --> 00:06:39,893 Speaker 1: For more from Saturday Morning with Jack Team, listen live 157 00:06:39,973 --> 00:06:42,773 Speaker 1: to News Talks d B from nine am Saturday, or 158 00:06:42,853 --> 00:06:44,773 Speaker 1: follow the podcast on iHeartRadio