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Speaker 1: So the hunt for the mythical free trade agreement with

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Speaker 1: what they think about that potential free trade deal with US.

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Speaker 1: The Indian government sent an email to members of the

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Speaker 1: Federation of Indian Chambers of Commerce and Industry asking for

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Speaker 1: feedback on the idea of starting trade negotiations. So Bada

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Speaker 1: Council and joins you, Now, how about it, Hi Andrew?

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Speaker 2: How are you very good?

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Speaker 1: This is good for New Zealand. It's a sign at

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Speaker 1: least in the government. The Indian government's starting to ask

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Speaker 1: businesses what can we do with New Zealand.

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Speaker 2: I think it's wonderful, wonderful news and it actually it

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Speaker 2: took time, but it's getting getting somehow, a good, better

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Speaker 2: idea for everyone.

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Speaker 1: Yes, you say, it takes time, and we've been talking

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Speaker 1: about this for at least seven years, so this might

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Speaker 1: this might be the first step. But you know, are

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Speaker 2: I think if you see government, the current government have

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Speaker 2: building that relationship between diplomats and the government. If I

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Speaker 2: take the six years before that were we're pretty much

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Speaker 2: not not well in terms of the travel and discussion

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Speaker 2: that I'll discount that six years and said that this

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Speaker 1: Good, that's true. Now if the private sector starts saying, yeah,

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Speaker 1: we're is a little bit interested, that would make things

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Speaker 2: I think from an Indian Indian perspective, private sector gets

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Speaker 2: a kind of a saye to do it. So it's again,

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Speaker 2: it will not happen immediately. I think. I not say

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Speaker 2: that it will happen tomorrow, but it's a direction which

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Speaker 2: we want to see and with coming months or years

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Speaker 1: So look, what exactly would India want to import from

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Speaker 1: New Zealand? What could we sell them? What would they

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Speaker 2: I think a lot of time if you see I

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Speaker 2: more about how we can provide the technology transfers or

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Speaker 2: we can provide about investments in India in terms of

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Speaker 2: areas even against the primary industries are doing well towards

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Speaker 1: Well, you say saying manufacturing and you're saying technology because

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Speaker 1: of because we always instantly think, you know, primary products,

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Speaker 1: you know, meat, beef and milk and all the lamb

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Speaker 1: saying that the India would be more interested in how

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Speaker 1: we make the meat, the beef, the lamb and the

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Speaker 1: milk than the milk and the and the beef.

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Speaker 2: And I'm not I'm not saying that we don't want

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Speaker 2: So there are a lot newsing can offer. We have

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Speaker 2: is done by a news and company. So there's a

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Speaker 2: lot happening. So we always called dairy or meat or kiwi.

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Speaker 2: They're already working hard to get there, but we need

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Speaker 2: to open more doors with India.

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Speaker 1: Also, yes, I saw the pharographs that India took of

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Speaker 1: in many different ways. What could we offer India to

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Speaker 2: In See if you see all the deals of India

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Speaker 2: when we say daily farming, we talk about robotics in

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Speaker 2: you see the work depity is doing good from AIRA

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Speaker 2: I can see that.

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Speaker 1: So with all this good news that the Indian government

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Speaker 1: of years.

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Speaker 2: I think we should start faster than that. I can

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Speaker 2: say that because see India also is looking for more partners.

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Speaker 2: If you see India five years ago was different to

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Speaker 2: If I say currently there are around ten to eleven

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Speaker 2: they can if they want to do a free trade

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Speaker 2: can sign in one year to eighteen months. Also, well,

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Speaker 2: listen is fast now, that.

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Speaker 1: Is great and let's help, sir, because I think we'd

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Speaker 1: be great friends together and we'll do some good business together.

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Speaker 1: And Baratta, I would like to thank you very much

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Speaker 1: for your time today. That's Barachawala, who is the Indian

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