1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,080 Speaker 1: Time to catch up with UK corresponding Devin Gray, who's 2 00:00:03,080 --> 00:00:06,360 Speaker 1: with us this evening? Hi, Gevin, Hi there, Jack, So 3 00:00:06,519 --> 00:00:09,720 Speaker 1: talk to us about this far right Freedom Party in 4 00:00:09,760 --> 00:00:13,000 Speaker 1: Austria just under thirty percent of the vote, meaning it 5 00:00:13,080 --> 00:00:16,200 Speaker 1: is celebrating what is an historic election victory. 6 00:00:17,200 --> 00:00:20,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, it sure is sensitive times of course with Austria 7 00:00:21,000 --> 00:00:24,000 Speaker 2: when you're talking about the far right and its links 8 00:00:24,000 --> 00:00:28,320 Speaker 2: of course to Hitler and the war. But the party 9 00:00:28,440 --> 00:00:31,440 Speaker 2: of the far right, the Freedom Party, won by almost 10 00:00:31,520 --> 00:00:35,440 Speaker 2: three points ahead of the more conservative People's Party. However, 11 00:00:35,520 --> 00:00:38,840 Speaker 2: it is far short of forming a majority, and that's 12 00:00:38,880 --> 00:00:41,519 Speaker 2: going to be the issue because most of the other 13 00:00:41,600 --> 00:00:45,839 Speaker 2: parties are ruling out categorically joining in any type of 14 00:00:45,880 --> 00:00:50,200 Speaker 2: coalition with the FPO. That said, one of them says, yes, 15 00:00:50,280 --> 00:00:53,200 Speaker 2: I might join it, but not with the current leader 16 00:00:53,240 --> 00:00:56,000 Speaker 2: as leader. Why are they so sensitive? Well, because the 17 00:00:56,240 --> 00:00:59,120 Speaker 2: fire In leader, Herbert Keekl, has promised Austrians to build 18 00:00:59,240 --> 00:01:03,200 Speaker 2: Fortress of Austria, as he's described it, to restore their security, 19 00:01:03,280 --> 00:01:07,960 Speaker 2: prosperity and peace. He's also described himself as the volks 20 00:01:08,080 --> 00:01:12,000 Speaker 2: cancelor that's called People's Chancellor. And I'm afraid that's what 21 00:01:12,080 --> 00:01:15,240 Speaker 2: Adolf Hitler used to describe himself as in Nazi Germany, 22 00:01:15,360 --> 00:01:17,760 Speaker 2: and indeed the party was founded by Nazis in the 23 00:01:17,840 --> 00:01:20,720 Speaker 2: nineteen fifties, and two days before the votes, some of 24 00:01:20,760 --> 00:01:23,960 Speaker 2: its candidates were caught on video singing an SS song 25 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:27,240 Speaker 2: at a funeral. Anyway, they've won the battle, will now 26 00:01:27,280 --> 00:01:30,200 Speaker 2: be on to tranform some sort of a government. The 27 00:01:30,480 --> 00:01:33,479 Speaker 2: issues of migration asylum were very high up on this. 28 00:01:33,480 --> 00:01:36,080 Speaker 2: This could be bad news for Ukraine as well. They 29 00:01:36,200 --> 00:01:38,800 Speaker 2: promised to turn the tap off of funding them much 30 00:01:38,840 --> 00:01:41,480 Speaker 2: more pro Russian and it'll be a huge thorn in 31 00:01:41,520 --> 00:01:44,680 Speaker 2: the side of the EU Bloc, which now has a 32 00:01:44,800 --> 00:01:48,800 Speaker 2: right wing Italian government and also far right support in 33 00:01:48,880 --> 00:01:50,760 Speaker 2: France and the Netherlands too. 34 00:01:50,600 --> 00:01:53,360 Speaker 1: So what is the likelihood given that this leader is 35 00:01:53,360 --> 00:01:57,280 Speaker 1: going to stand down, given he is individually so popular 36 00:01:58,040 --> 00:02:02,400 Speaker 1: and undoubtedly charismetic, regardless of his politics, is there any 37 00:02:02,440 --> 00:02:04,480 Speaker 1: real possibility that will stand down so they can actually 38 00:02:04,520 --> 00:02:05,560 Speaker 1: form a coalition and govern. 39 00:02:06,680 --> 00:02:09,200 Speaker 2: Well, I wouldn't have thought. So there might be some 40 00:02:09,280 --> 00:02:12,000 Speaker 2: sort of middle ground where maybe he's not the leader 41 00:02:12,040 --> 00:02:14,400 Speaker 2: on paper or by name, but you know, he's got 42 00:02:15,120 --> 00:02:17,600 Speaker 2: some other title. But as you said, he's popular, so 43 00:02:17,840 --> 00:02:20,320 Speaker 2: It's unlikely he's going to just sort of decide to go, 44 00:02:20,600 --> 00:02:22,880 Speaker 2: but there will be pressure on the other parties, I think, 45 00:02:22,919 --> 00:02:26,360 Speaker 2: to actually form a coalition. This is what people voted for. However, 46 00:02:26,440 --> 00:02:29,000 Speaker 2: when the Freedom Party, the right wing far right one 47 00:02:29,040 --> 00:02:32,560 Speaker 2: in the Netherlands, the leader Hurt Wilders, agreed to drop 48 00:02:32,600 --> 00:02:35,320 Speaker 2: his bid to become prime minister so that three other 49 00:02:35,360 --> 00:02:37,720 Speaker 2: parties would agree to form a coalition with his. 50 00:02:38,560 --> 00:02:41,359 Speaker 1: This is a phenomenon, we're saying right across Europe, right 51 00:02:41,639 --> 00:02:45,399 Speaker 1: as anywhere in Europe not experiencing a such in popularity 52 00:02:45,440 --> 00:02:46,400 Speaker 1: for far right parties. 53 00:02:47,480 --> 00:02:50,480 Speaker 2: Well, i'd look I put some kind of point to 54 00:02:50,560 --> 00:02:53,079 Speaker 2: the UK because of course we've gone from center right 55 00:02:53,160 --> 00:02:55,680 Speaker 2: to center left, but we're definitely against the trend. 56 00:02:55,960 --> 00:02:59,239 Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah, very good point. Speaking of the 57 00:02:59,360 --> 00:03:03,720 Speaker 1: UK government, they've titled Rules around Ministerial Hospitality. 58 00:03:05,040 --> 00:03:07,600 Speaker 2: What a start to the premiership this has been for 59 00:03:07,639 --> 00:03:10,799 Speaker 2: the Labor Party, the new government as of early July, 60 00:03:11,560 --> 00:03:16,240 Speaker 2: they've had an absolute terrible a week of their own making, really, 61 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:19,680 Speaker 2: with the announcement of lots and lots of freebies having 62 00:03:19,760 --> 00:03:22,840 Speaker 2: been accepted within just the first few weeks of power. 63 00:03:23,160 --> 00:03:26,799 Speaker 2: So the Prime Minister Sirkirstarma originally declared about thirty five 64 00:03:26,919 --> 00:03:31,280 Speaker 2: thousand pounds worth of new clothes and he declared those 65 00:03:31,440 --> 00:03:34,800 Speaker 2: as work for his private office. That's going to be recategorized. 66 00:03:34,960 --> 00:03:37,640 Speaker 2: We've had other scandals of tickets, but now the government 67 00:03:37,840 --> 00:03:40,760 Speaker 2: is saying it's going to tighten up on these transparency rules. 68 00:03:41,440 --> 00:03:46,360 Speaker 2: So when a minister receives hospitality linked to their government job, 69 00:03:46,760 --> 00:03:50,240 Speaker 2: they've normally declared in their MPs register. They very rarely 70 00:03:50,320 --> 00:03:52,960 Speaker 2: do declare it by their departments that that's going to 71 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:56,520 Speaker 2: be a specific requirement to do that under these new rules. 72 00:03:57,040 --> 00:03:59,000 Speaker 2: And also they have to put a figure on how 73 00:03:59,080 --> 00:04:01,480 Speaker 2: much it's worth. They haven't had to do in the past. 74 00:04:01,920 --> 00:04:04,040 Speaker 2: And incidentally, all this has come up in the first 75 00:04:04,120 --> 00:04:07,080 Speaker 2: few weeks of his premiership. The next list, which governs 76 00:04:07,120 --> 00:04:09,680 Speaker 2: the next period of time, is due to come up 77 00:04:09,840 --> 00:04:12,400 Speaker 2: just later this startup our. 78 00:04:12,960 --> 00:04:14,640 Speaker 1: It does seem like a bit of an own goal 79 00:04:14,920 --> 00:04:17,520 Speaker 1: for ken Stahmer, isn't it. I mean, you know, they 80 00:04:17,560 --> 00:04:21,640 Speaker 1: were all about, you know, restoring standards an office, or 81 00:04:21,640 --> 00:04:24,159 Speaker 1: at least they seem to be during the election campaign, 82 00:04:24,240 --> 00:04:28,159 Speaker 1: trying to differentiate themselves from the Lewis Truss's and Boris 83 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:30,719 Speaker 1: Johnson's maybe lest of the richie sunex but certainly the 84 00:04:30,720 --> 00:04:34,440 Speaker 1: conservative leadership style that had defined a couple of those 85 00:04:34,440 --> 00:04:37,800 Speaker 1: conservative prime ministers. It just seems like such an avoidable 86 00:04:38,279 --> 00:04:39,440 Speaker 1: kind of era, don't you think. 87 00:04:40,440 --> 00:04:44,159 Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely a complete misstep, and plenty of people have 88 00:04:44,240 --> 00:04:46,920 Speaker 2: been pointing that out. And it isn't just the prime minister, 89 00:04:47,200 --> 00:04:49,840 Speaker 2: it's other senior members of his team as well, and 90 00:04:49,920 --> 00:04:52,920 Speaker 2: one a labor MP has quit as well, saying it's 91 00:04:52,920 --> 00:04:53,880 Speaker 2: been absolutely. 92 00:04:53,520 --> 00:04:57,560 Speaker 1: Disgusting, Gavin. The number of uni aged students needing support 93 00:04:57,600 --> 00:05:00,360 Speaker 1: for eating disorders has more than double than recent years. 94 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:05,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, very sad. This according to a charity which offers 95 00:05:05,120 --> 00:05:08,839 Speaker 2: to support to people over the phone, basically saying that 96 00:05:09,320 --> 00:05:11,520 Speaker 2: in a period from eight Pril twenty three to March 97 00:05:11,560 --> 00:05:16,080 Speaker 2: twenty four, their sessions are numbered more than fifteen thousand 98 00:05:16,240 --> 00:05:19,760 Speaker 2: helps calls for help from eighteen to twenty two year 99 00:05:19,760 --> 00:05:23,560 Speaker 2: olds and that's up from six thy six hundred for 100 00:05:23,640 --> 00:05:26,600 Speaker 2: the same period twenty nineteen to twenty two. So over 101 00:05:26,640 --> 00:05:29,320 Speaker 2: the last five years than the calls for help of 102 00:05:29,400 --> 00:05:32,920 Speaker 2: more than doubled. Some of it, yes, managing of finances, 103 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:35,159 Speaker 2: because of course life as a student can be tough, 104 00:05:35,480 --> 00:05:39,599 Speaker 2: but managing groceries, getting to class on time, anxiety, being 105 00:05:39,640 --> 00:05:43,080 Speaker 2: away from home, new way of working and studying, meeting 106 00:05:43,120 --> 00:05:47,159 Speaker 2: new friends. All of this, of course comes Most people 107 00:05:47,320 --> 00:05:49,680 Speaker 2: seem to sort of fine with it, but there does 108 00:05:49,720 --> 00:05:52,240 Speaker 2: seem to be this growing, I don't know, lack of 109 00:05:52,279 --> 00:05:55,279 Speaker 2: certainty about yourself, like a confidence about yourself, which is 110 00:05:55,320 --> 00:05:58,480 Speaker 2: deeply concerning. So they're calling for more mental health centers 111 00:05:58,480 --> 00:06:00,400 Speaker 2: to be set up in universities to this. 112 00:06:00,600 --> 00:06:04,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, I wonder if it's interesting, right, because COVID has 113 00:06:04,440 --> 00:06:07,719 Speaker 1: isolated people, but you know, you're wonder to what extent. 114 00:06:08,560 --> 00:06:10,680 Speaker 1: You know, it's hard to understand, but that phenomenon has 115 00:06:10,760 --> 00:06:13,320 Speaker 1: kind of has has influenced the surge. 116 00:06:14,640 --> 00:06:17,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's it's been very So it's also been 117 00:06:17,360 --> 00:06:20,520 Speaker 2: seen in hospitals as well, which has seen an increase 118 00:06:20,600 --> 00:06:26,240 Speaker 2: in eating disorder referrals up eighty two percent since twenty 119 00:06:26,320 --> 00:06:28,800 Speaker 2: nineteen twenty twenty. So yeah, it's not just UNIS, but 120 00:06:28,880 --> 00:06:31,400 Speaker 2: it is young people affected the most, and it is 121 00:06:31,440 --> 00:06:33,920 Speaker 2: affecting both those unis and the National Health Service. 122 00:06:34,120 --> 00:06:36,840 Speaker 1: Really appreciate your time as always, given that as you can. 123 00:06:36,880 --> 00:06:41,440 Speaker 1: Europe correspondent Gavin Gray for more from Hither Dupless Alan Drive. 124 00:06:41,600 --> 00:06:45,000 Speaker 2: Listen live to news talks it'd be from four pm weekdays, 125 00:06:45,120 --> 00:06:47,320 Speaker 2: or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio