1 00:00:01,200 --> 00:00:05,360 Speaker 1: The issues, the interviews and the insight. Ryan Bridge on 2 00:00:05,600 --> 00:00:09,960 Speaker 1: Earliereditia with r V Supercenter, explore r V successories and 3 00:00:10,119 --> 00:00:11,920 Speaker 1: servicing all in one news talks. 4 00:00:11,960 --> 00:00:14,360 Speaker 2: There'd be Good Morning's Wednesday six after five. We'll look 5 00:00:14,360 --> 00:00:17,000 Speaker 2: at the maccabill that cassed in parliament last night in Paris. 6 00:00:17,079 --> 00:00:20,000 Speaker 2: Nicholas Sarkozy's in jail right now. We'll go to a 7 00:00:20,000 --> 00:00:23,400 Speaker 2: correspondent on that road cones. Are they driving road rage 8 00:00:23,400 --> 00:00:26,279 Speaker 2: in New Zealand? And we'll speak to Todd McLay, Agricultural 9 00:00:26,320 --> 00:00:32,080 Speaker 2: Minister on alliance but also the dairy auction. The agenda Wednesday, 10 00:00:32,120 --> 00:00:34,760 Speaker 2: the twenty second of October. Japan has a new Prime minister, 11 00:00:34,840 --> 00:00:36,920 Speaker 2: so nah Ataka each year is her name. We've spoken 12 00:00:36,920 --> 00:00:39,839 Speaker 2: about her on the show before. She's conservative, she's Nationalists. Well, 13 00:00:39,840 --> 00:00:42,400 Speaker 2: she's a woman and first time they've done that. Also, 14 00:00:42,479 --> 00:00:43,640 Speaker 2: big fan of Maggie Thatcher. 15 00:00:43,720 --> 00:00:48,320 Speaker 3: We need to have easy of the Paris from the 16 00:00:48,440 --> 00:00:53,400 Speaker 3: United States. It is very important to have wiscontrol. We 17 00:00:53,479 --> 00:00:58,360 Speaker 3: are going to change your future anxiety for wish hooks 18 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:01,320 Speaker 3: and he's going to have a ball. 19 00:01:02,280 --> 00:01:05,400 Speaker 2: Plus and Israel they're trying to keep a lid on 20 00:01:05,440 --> 00:01:07,280 Speaker 2: the ceasefire. Jd vances there. 21 00:01:07,400 --> 00:01:09,480 Speaker 4: Every time that there is an act of violence, there's 22 00:01:09,520 --> 00:01:11,720 Speaker 4: this inclination to say, oh, this is the end of 23 00:01:11,760 --> 00:01:13,960 Speaker 4: the ceasefire, this is the end of the peace plan. 24 00:01:14,080 --> 00:01:16,840 Speaker 4: It's not the end. It is in fact exactly how 25 00:01:16,880 --> 00:01:18,399 Speaker 4: this is going to have to happen when you have 26 00:01:18,520 --> 00:01:21,040 Speaker 4: people who hate each other, who have been fighting against 27 00:01:21,040 --> 00:01:23,520 Speaker 4: each other for a very long time. We are doing 28 00:01:23,880 --> 00:01:26,039 Speaker 4: very well. We are in a very good place. We're 29 00:01:26,040 --> 00:01:27,679 Speaker 4: going to have to keep working on it, but I 30 00:01:27,680 --> 00:01:28,800 Speaker 4: think we have the team to. 31 00:01:28,800 --> 00:01:32,559 Speaker 2: Do exactly that. You'll remember they say he said that 32 00:01:32,640 --> 00:01:36,280 Speaker 2: Sarkozy took money from Gaddafi in Libya, while he has 33 00:01:36,319 --> 00:01:38,920 Speaker 2: become the first French ex president to go to jail. 34 00:01:39,120 --> 00:01:41,119 Speaker 2: This is over that scandal for the. 35 00:01:41,080 --> 00:01:41,639 Speaker 5: Hold of France. 36 00:01:41,680 --> 00:01:46,920 Speaker 6: This is a shocking and quite unusual movement, whether you 37 00:01:47,040 --> 00:01:50,280 Speaker 6: are for him or against and so yes, he's gone 38 00:01:50,320 --> 00:01:53,080 Speaker 6: in making quite clear he does not want to have 39 00:01:53,120 --> 00:01:55,560 Speaker 6: any special favors done. He did not ask to be 40 00:01:55,560 --> 00:01:57,640 Speaker 6: put in the isolation wing, but he was put there 41 00:01:57,840 --> 00:01:59,880 Speaker 6: for his own safety by the prison authorities. 42 00:02:01,360 --> 00:02:05,120 Speaker 1: Get ahead of the headlines on early edition with Ryan 43 00:02:05,200 --> 00:02:10,040 Speaker 1: Bridge and r V Supercenter explore RV's accessories and servicing 44 00:02:10,160 --> 00:02:11,760 Speaker 1: all in one news talks at. 45 00:02:11,639 --> 00:02:14,240 Speaker 2: Me nine two nine two. Would love to hear from 46 00:02:14,280 --> 00:02:17,040 Speaker 2: you this morning. Just gone eight minutes after five. So 47 00:02:17,160 --> 00:02:21,080 Speaker 2: the solitary confinement. This is Sarcosey's jail cell. Apparently he 48 00:02:21,160 --> 00:02:22,720 Speaker 2: was trying to avoid the cameras as he was being 49 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:25,720 Speaker 2: lead in and all that, but they got him. He's 50 00:02:25,880 --> 00:02:29,639 Speaker 2: expected to be held in solitary confinement for his own security. 51 00:02:30,240 --> 00:02:33,519 Speaker 2: In an individual cell. It's about nine square meters. It's 52 00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:35,560 Speaker 2: got his own shower, he'll get his own toilet, he'll 53 00:02:35,560 --> 00:02:37,440 Speaker 2: get his own phone line, but he can only ring 54 00:02:37,440 --> 00:02:39,840 Speaker 2: his lawyer on it, and I think some family members. 55 00:02:39,919 --> 00:02:44,520 Speaker 2: No cell phone's allowed for Sarcozy in jail. Apparently at 56 00:02:44,600 --> 00:02:47,520 Speaker 2: night it's quite noisy, so they've advised he wears air plugs. 57 00:02:48,360 --> 00:02:50,600 Speaker 2: Sounds a bit grim for an next president, doesn't it. 58 00:02:50,840 --> 00:02:53,120 Speaker 2: We'll speak to Gavin Gray about that later in the program. 59 00:02:53,520 --> 00:02:56,560 Speaker 2: Nine minutes after five, And Sir Brian Roach, did you 60 00:02:56,600 --> 00:02:59,720 Speaker 2: read this yesterday? He's the Public Services Commissioner. And the 61 00:02:59,760 --> 00:03:02,880 Speaker 2: big mega strikes happening tomorrow or is it happening tomorrow? 62 00:03:02,880 --> 00:03:06,480 Speaker 2: Because maybe you'll be too windy anyway, sir Brian Roach 63 00:03:06,680 --> 00:03:11,080 Speaker 2: is on holiday on the Gold Coast bad call. Sorry, 64 00:03:11,280 --> 00:03:15,359 Speaker 2: shouldn't have gone. Apparently, according to the press reports, it's 65 00:03:15,400 --> 00:03:20,280 Speaker 2: a holiday any other time, Fine, any other time fine, 66 00:03:20,360 --> 00:03:24,840 Speaker 2: middle of contract negotiations with the biggest strike apparently in 67 00:03:24,960 --> 00:03:28,320 Speaker 2: decades since the eighties. No, Sometimes you've got to fit 68 00:03:28,520 --> 00:03:30,960 Speaker 2: your life around your work, and I think this is 69 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:32,519 Speaker 2: one of those cases. And I've got a lot of 70 00:03:32,560 --> 00:03:35,800 Speaker 2: respect for Sir Brian Roach and everything that he has accomplished. However, 71 00:03:36,720 --> 00:03:39,040 Speaker 2: now is not the time to go on holiday. You know, 72 00:03:39,440 --> 00:03:41,400 Speaker 2: sometimes you've got to do this, like next year is 73 00:03:41,400 --> 00:03:44,880 Speaker 2: an election year, and I just know, and this has 74 00:03:44,920 --> 00:03:47,240 Speaker 2: been at previous jobs as well. You can't take a 75 00:03:47,280 --> 00:03:51,960 Speaker 2: holiday four months prior you're basically glued to your seat 76 00:03:51,960 --> 00:03:55,800 Speaker 2: at work. And then afterwards as well, you probably don't 77 00:03:55,800 --> 00:03:58,800 Speaker 2: take where you don't until Christmas, you know, you don't 78 00:03:58,840 --> 00:04:01,200 Speaker 2: take a day off. Basically, you can't have a holiday. 79 00:04:01,440 --> 00:04:02,960 Speaker 2: And that's just the way it is, and that's fine. 80 00:04:02,960 --> 00:04:05,160 Speaker 2: I'm not complaining, but I think it's the same for 81 00:04:05,200 --> 00:04:08,920 Speaker 2: Sir Brian Roche. Now is not the time to be 82 00:04:09,520 --> 00:04:11,960 Speaker 2: suns out, guns out, buns out on the Gold Coast 83 00:04:12,160 --> 00:04:16,160 Speaker 2: Bridge five ten will speak to Alan Pollard, here's a 84 00:04:16,200 --> 00:04:19,680 Speaker 2: civil contractors in New Zealand a lot of abusive road 85 00:04:19,720 --> 00:04:23,680 Speaker 2: workers and no, I'm not excusing that because it's unforgivable 86 00:04:23,680 --> 00:04:26,839 Speaker 2: and unforgivable. You don't abuse, you don't yell at, you 87 00:04:26,880 --> 00:04:30,200 Speaker 2: don't throw things, you know, you don't get aggressive, you 88 00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:34,200 Speaker 2: don't ram them with your car, which apparently is happening. Happening, 89 00:04:34,760 --> 00:04:38,000 Speaker 2: but is it? Are we being driven there by the 90 00:04:38,040 --> 00:04:40,400 Speaker 2: fact there are so many road cones out there? We'll 91 00:04:40,440 --> 00:04:41,880 Speaker 2: talk about that next News talks at B. 92 00:04:42,600 --> 00:04:45,960 Speaker 1: News and Views you trust to start your day, It's 93 00:04:46,080 --> 00:04:49,719 Speaker 1: early ed Ship with Bryan Bridge and r V Supercenter 94 00:04:50,080 --> 00:04:53,640 Speaker 1: explore r v's accessories and servicing Paul and One News 95 00:04:53,680 --> 00:04:54,760 Speaker 1: Talks at B five. 96 00:04:54,560 --> 00:04:56,479 Speaker 2: Third and great to have your company this business with 97 00:04:56,560 --> 00:04:59,160 Speaker 2: the banks being too woke to lend. You know when 98 00:04:59,200 --> 00:05:01,440 Speaker 2: you saw those stories about them not wanting to bank 99 00:05:01,520 --> 00:05:07,760 Speaker 2: roll petrol stations or even not renewing loans on petrol stations, farms, 100 00:05:07,800 --> 00:05:10,320 Speaker 2: this kind of stuff. Well, they had all the bank's 101 00:05:10,320 --> 00:05:13,320 Speaker 2: CEOs at a finance conference last week and someone asked 102 00:05:13,320 --> 00:05:15,640 Speaker 2: them about this and I hadn't seen these comments, but 103 00:05:15,720 --> 00:05:18,479 Speaker 2: Interest dot co dot Nz has published them yesterday. You know, 104 00:05:18,520 --> 00:05:21,719 Speaker 2: you had your A and z' your West paxibnz's Antonia 105 00:05:21,760 --> 00:05:25,080 Speaker 2: Watson from A and Z. She had a crack at 106 00:05:25,120 --> 00:05:28,200 Speaker 2: New Zealand first because they've got this bill, the so 107 00:05:28,440 --> 00:05:31,600 Speaker 2: called woke Banking Bill, and she kind of explains, we 108 00:05:31,720 --> 00:05:37,520 Speaker 2: are not not funding anti woke agendas here. So this 109 00:05:37,720 --> 00:05:39,880 Speaker 2: is what she said. There's this thing called the woke 110 00:05:39,960 --> 00:05:42,080 Speaker 2: Banking Bill that's sitting around at the moment. Do I 111 00:05:42,200 --> 00:05:44,920 Speaker 2: care if it gets past there'll be some compliance, I'm 112 00:05:44,960 --> 00:05:47,080 Speaker 2: sure so yes, I sort of do, But it's not 113 00:05:47,320 --> 00:05:50,400 Speaker 2: going to change anything because we don't make decisions based 114 00:05:50,480 --> 00:05:54,040 Speaker 2: on wokeness. We make decisions based on our risk appetite 115 00:05:54,480 --> 00:05:57,440 Speaker 2: to provide credit to the economy. Sometimes you find yourself 116 00:05:57,560 --> 00:06:01,360 Speaker 2: over exposed, she says. An Z did this over exposed 117 00:06:01,400 --> 00:06:04,200 Speaker 2: itself to dairy in the twenty tens, so we had 118 00:06:04,240 --> 00:06:08,040 Speaker 2: a particular appetite. So isn't that interesting. I've kind of 119 00:06:08,080 --> 00:06:10,640 Speaker 2: always been of the opinion that it's not about wokeness 120 00:06:10,800 --> 00:06:14,600 Speaker 2: but more about, you know, a commercial decision about what 121 00:06:14,880 --> 00:06:17,039 Speaker 2: is viable and what is not, and what is worth 122 00:06:17,160 --> 00:06:21,120 Speaker 2: lending to. Fourteen after five you check the survey shows 123 00:06:21,200 --> 00:06:24,760 Speaker 2: abuse towards road workers is getting worse. Two thirds of 124 00:06:24,800 --> 00:06:27,400 Speaker 2: traffic controllers a coppying abuse on a weekly basis. In 125 00:06:27,440 --> 00:06:30,640 Speaker 2: the last year, one in five have been physically assaulted, 126 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:34,760 Speaker 2: some even hit by vehicles. Alan Pollard's as civil Contractors 127 00:06:34,760 --> 00:06:36,760 Speaker 2: in New Zealand CEO of me this morning, Allan, good morning. 128 00:06:38,640 --> 00:06:41,800 Speaker 2: Not excusing this behavior because it's completely unacceptable. But why 129 00:06:42,080 --> 00:06:44,320 Speaker 2: do you think it's gotten worse? You know, Is it 130 00:06:44,360 --> 00:06:47,960 Speaker 2: because we're doing so much more road safety? Are there 131 00:06:48,080 --> 00:06:52,360 Speaker 2: more people out there therefore more likely to be encounter abuse? 132 00:06:54,240 --> 00:06:56,120 Speaker 7: You're right, I will not excuse kind of the he 133 00:06:56,480 --> 00:06:58,960 Speaker 7: so that's not accessible. But there are probably other factors 134 00:06:59,000 --> 00:07:01,640 Speaker 7: of play here. If you lock around society at the 135 00:07:01,680 --> 00:07:04,839 Speaker 7: moment of your frank people are stressed, are towt are frustrated, 136 00:07:05,240 --> 00:07:09,400 Speaker 7: people are losing their jobs. That there's quite a somber 137 00:07:09,480 --> 00:07:11,960 Speaker 7: mood away in the country, and I'm sure that drives 138 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:14,360 Speaker 7: some of the sort of behavior. I think also, I 139 00:07:14,400 --> 00:07:16,600 Speaker 7: think the industry can do a bit, as the survey 140 00:07:16,680 --> 00:07:20,600 Speaker 7: suggest that actually just to improve people's understanding and awareness 141 00:07:20,680 --> 00:07:22,800 Speaker 7: of why we do things on the road. We're really 142 00:07:22,800 --> 00:07:24,800 Speaker 7: good at saying what we're going to do. But I 143 00:07:24,840 --> 00:07:26,360 Speaker 7: think we probably need to do a better job of 144 00:07:26,480 --> 00:07:27,240 Speaker 7: why we're doing it. 145 00:07:27,880 --> 00:07:30,240 Speaker 2: What do you want to happen? You've talked about enforcement 146 00:07:30,280 --> 00:07:35,160 Speaker 2: and consequences and physical protection on road work sites. What 147 00:07:35,360 --> 00:07:36,480 Speaker 2: exactly do you mean. 148 00:07:37,800 --> 00:07:41,680 Speaker 7: Well, physical protection could be having barriers between between traffic 149 00:07:41,760 --> 00:07:43,800 Speaker 7: and the workers and makes it a little frustrating for 150 00:07:43,920 --> 00:07:47,160 Speaker 7: drivers because it is disrupting. But it's also things like 151 00:07:47,320 --> 00:07:51,120 Speaker 7: having body cameras, for example, they have been trilled on 152 00:07:51,200 --> 00:07:54,120 Speaker 7: some of the sites. It's just having something that's physical 153 00:07:54,200 --> 00:07:58,280 Speaker 7: and tangible that actually deministrates to both the workers we're 154 00:07:58,320 --> 00:08:00,480 Speaker 7: trying to keep them safe, but also to the drivers 155 00:08:00,520 --> 00:08:02,600 Speaker 7: that we actually have these tools and we're not afraid 156 00:08:02,640 --> 00:08:03,080 Speaker 7: to use them. 157 00:08:04,040 --> 00:08:06,120 Speaker 2: Why do we hear about jobs we're half the cost 158 00:08:06,160 --> 00:08:09,320 Speaker 2: as traffic management, you know, motorways. I can understand because 159 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:11,640 Speaker 2: the cars are going really fast. But you know when 160 00:08:11,640 --> 00:08:13,760 Speaker 2: you've got five guys and a thousand road codes to 161 00:08:13,840 --> 00:08:19,200 Speaker 2: change the street lamp and we see this like like, 162 00:08:19,360 --> 00:08:21,800 Speaker 2: I know this is anecdotal, but I see it in 163 00:08:21,880 --> 00:08:24,480 Speaker 2: my neighborhood. People on the text machine right now who 164 00:08:24,480 --> 00:08:27,280 Speaker 2: are texting, and see it in theirs. What's up with this? 165 00:08:28,640 --> 00:08:30,760 Speaker 7: Yeah? Look, look I've to ask we don't always get 166 00:08:30,800 --> 00:08:32,880 Speaker 7: it right. That's really didn't not that. But you know, 167 00:08:33,040 --> 00:08:35,160 Speaker 7: road homes are one of the tools in the toolbox 168 00:08:35,240 --> 00:08:37,599 Speaker 7: to keep people safe. The whole point of having this 169 00:08:37,760 --> 00:08:40,920 Speaker 7: traffic management in place is to keep the road workers 170 00:08:40,960 --> 00:08:43,560 Speaker 7: safety and to keep the traveling public safe so they 171 00:08:43,600 --> 00:08:46,040 Speaker 7: all get home safety to their families. So you know, 172 00:08:46,160 --> 00:08:49,000 Speaker 7: it's really important that we use the tools that we 173 00:08:49,080 --> 00:08:51,800 Speaker 7: have available to us to achieve their goal. Now, some 174 00:08:52,040 --> 00:08:54,440 Speaker 7: sites are high risk sites and some sites are low 175 00:08:54,559 --> 00:08:57,760 Speaker 7: risk site, so you won't necessarily see the same setup 176 00:08:58,080 --> 00:09:00,800 Speaker 7: as you travel around the country. But you know, a 177 00:09:00,880 --> 00:09:03,720 Speaker 7: lot of work goes into designing traffic management. There's been 178 00:09:03,760 --> 00:09:07,079 Speaker 7: a move away from a more arbitrary approach to a 179 00:09:07,200 --> 00:09:10,880 Speaker 7: much more focussed approach based on each site. So so 180 00:09:10,960 --> 00:09:13,520 Speaker 7: I think what you will see as an improvement in 181 00:09:13,679 --> 00:09:17,240 Speaker 7: targeted traffic management solutions. And again, as I said, it's 182 00:09:17,280 --> 00:09:19,800 Speaker 7: all about getting people home. The safety is possible at 183 00:09:19,840 --> 00:09:20,640 Speaker 7: limited disruption. 184 00:09:20,840 --> 00:09:23,600 Speaker 2: All right, appreciate your time. Allan Allan Pollo, Chief executive 185 00:09:23,600 --> 00:09:27,480 Speaker 2: at Civil Contractors. It is five point seventeen Ryan Bridge 186 00:09:27,960 --> 00:09:31,000 Speaker 2: Ryan A thousand road cones out on my street yesterday, 187 00:09:31,520 --> 00:09:34,640 Speaker 2: ten people standing around doing hardly anything. And I want 188 00:09:34,679 --> 00:09:36,920 Speaker 2: to between each of these texts, I'm going to say, 189 00:09:37,360 --> 00:09:40,959 Speaker 2: don't abuse them, you know, like it's not their fault 190 00:09:41,240 --> 00:09:45,880 Speaker 2: that the country is over policed with road cones. Ran 191 00:09:45,960 --> 00:09:49,000 Speaker 2: I know a heap of roadworkers through various places, and 192 00:09:49,120 --> 00:09:53,679 Speaker 2: they are lazy asses. They laugh about how cruzy their 193 00:09:53,800 --> 00:09:56,880 Speaker 2: job is, and they also talk about how making it 194 00:09:57,000 --> 00:10:01,000 Speaker 2: harder on traffic winds us up totally out of hand, 195 00:10:01,120 --> 00:10:04,800 Speaker 2: the road cones and the trucks, ETCeteras as Mark, and 196 00:10:04,920 --> 00:10:07,240 Speaker 2: this is from a text from another Ryan, good morning. 197 00:10:07,360 --> 00:10:09,640 Speaker 2: Sounds like the cost of the traffic control will increase 198 00:10:09,640 --> 00:10:12,640 Speaker 2: two or three times. That's my concern. You know, the 199 00:10:12,800 --> 00:10:15,880 Speaker 2: more abusive we become, the worse the problem become. You know, 200 00:10:16,240 --> 00:10:18,120 Speaker 2: we make the problem worse for ourselves in a way, 201 00:10:18,160 --> 00:10:20,360 Speaker 2: don't we. Five eighteen News Talks edb. 202 00:10:21,440 --> 00:10:26,040 Speaker 1: Ryan Bridge on early edition with r V Supercenter explore 203 00:10:26,160 --> 00:10:28,719 Speaker 1: r v's accessories and servicing all in one. 204 00:10:28,880 --> 00:10:31,640 Speaker 2: News Talks edb five twenty on News TALKSB we got 205 00:10:31,679 --> 00:10:34,360 Speaker 2: the decision on alliance through yesterday eighty seven percent of 206 00:10:34,400 --> 00:10:37,120 Speaker 2: shareholders and favors to two hundred and seventy million dollar 207 00:10:37,240 --> 00:10:39,880 Speaker 2: investment from the Irish outfit, Dawn meets, it'll take a 208 00:10:40,000 --> 00:10:44,080 Speaker 2: sixty five percent steak. Cash goes to paydown debt, strengthen 209 00:10:44,160 --> 00:10:46,360 Speaker 2: the balance sheet, fun future growth, all that sort of stuff. 210 00:10:46,360 --> 00:10:48,439 Speaker 2: Todd McLay is Agriculture Minister. 211 00:10:48,520 --> 00:10:50,240 Speaker 8: Good morning, Hey, Ryan, good morning. 212 00:10:50,320 --> 00:10:50,880 Speaker 2: Happy about this? 213 00:10:51,880 --> 00:10:54,080 Speaker 8: Well, look, I think it gives some certainty. In the end, 214 00:10:54,160 --> 00:10:57,120 Speaker 8: it was a decision for the farmers of the owners themselves. 215 00:10:57,520 --> 00:10:59,319 Speaker 8: The company had been facing a lot of death and 216 00:10:59,360 --> 00:11:01,679 Speaker 8: I know they were still pressure from the banks. So 217 00:11:01,840 --> 00:11:05,800 Speaker 8: this gives certainly the company will continue. The brightest part 218 00:11:05,880 --> 00:11:08,199 Speaker 8: of it, I suppose, is that there's going to be 219 00:11:08,240 --> 00:11:10,240 Speaker 8: a lot of investment in plant and that gives job 220 00:11:10,320 --> 00:11:12,360 Speaker 8: securities as well. You'll know that the plant had to 221 00:11:12,400 --> 00:11:14,920 Speaker 8: close down the year or so ago with six hundred 222 00:11:15,000 --> 00:11:15,600 Speaker 8: job losses. 223 00:11:16,480 --> 00:11:18,920 Speaker 2: Is it a shame though, that it's going to the 224 00:11:19,000 --> 00:11:22,319 Speaker 2: Irish and we've got the you know, Fonterier doing consumer 225 00:11:22,320 --> 00:11:24,960 Speaker 2: That brand's going to the French. Is it strategically important 226 00:11:25,000 --> 00:11:26,520 Speaker 2: for Keywis to own this stuff? 227 00:11:27,160 --> 00:11:29,480 Speaker 8: Well, I think as far as the farmers are concerned, 228 00:11:29,720 --> 00:11:33,320 Speaker 8: you know what's important is this competition for their meat. 229 00:11:33,800 --> 00:11:35,960 Speaker 8: You know, it's happened at a time when meat prices 230 00:11:36,400 --> 00:11:38,880 Speaker 8: Lamb as an example, prices are up, but if we 231 00:11:38,960 --> 00:11:41,080 Speaker 8: look at the cycle of the last period of time, 232 00:11:41,080 --> 00:11:44,120 Speaker 8: it's been very, very hard for there Lamb farmers. And 233 00:11:44,640 --> 00:11:48,920 Speaker 8: you know, if the existing company with some new owners 234 00:11:49,360 --> 00:11:51,240 Speaker 8: wants to be able to sell meat overseas, they're going 235 00:11:51,280 --> 00:11:53,640 Speaker 8: to have to buy it because there is no guarantee 236 00:11:53,679 --> 00:11:56,960 Speaker 8: of supply. So I think the farmers themselves have voted 237 00:11:57,080 --> 00:12:00,360 Speaker 8: both strategically and you know, for what they think is 238 00:12:00,400 --> 00:12:02,240 Speaker 8: the best in just for the company that they own. 239 00:12:02,960 --> 00:12:05,000 Speaker 8: They continue to have choice. If they don't want to 240 00:12:05,000 --> 00:12:06,959 Speaker 8: sell their meat to that company because it's not performing, 241 00:12:07,200 --> 00:12:08,880 Speaker 8: they get to choose to put it somewhere else. 242 00:12:09,559 --> 00:12:13,000 Speaker 2: Saw the numbers the Merchandise Trade devisit numbers yesterday, GAP 243 00:12:13,520 --> 00:12:15,360 Speaker 2: is closing, that's looking promising. 244 00:12:16,280 --> 00:12:20,080 Speaker 8: It is we've seen experts overall up about twelve billion 245 00:12:20,120 --> 00:12:23,520 Speaker 8: dollars since we came to government. Some of that's commodity prices, 246 00:12:23,880 --> 00:12:26,199 Speaker 8: but what it's also is we've got better access to 247 00:12:26,240 --> 00:12:28,920 Speaker 8: a number of markets around the world. Take the EU 248 00:12:29,360 --> 00:12:31,880 Speaker 8: as an example, and the Trade Commissioner I'll be announcing 249 00:12:31,920 --> 00:12:34,800 Speaker 8: today tomorrow he's coming down to visit us, to visit me. 250 00:12:35,120 --> 00:12:37,720 Speaker 8: Letter this week we'll be here on Friday. Our overall 251 00:12:37,760 --> 00:12:40,560 Speaker 8: exports are goods and services to the European Union are 252 00:12:40,640 --> 00:12:43,400 Speaker 8: up more than two billion dollars over the last year 253 00:12:43,400 --> 00:12:46,280 Speaker 8: and a half since the FDA came into effect. And 254 00:12:46,360 --> 00:12:47,880 Speaker 8: so I think what we're doing is we're seeing you know, 255 00:12:48,000 --> 00:12:52,000 Speaker 8: better access to markets four kiwis and you know, both 256 00:12:52,080 --> 00:12:54,680 Speaker 8: goods and services what we're selling are worth a lot more, 257 00:12:55,080 --> 00:12:57,800 Speaker 8: albeit you know, challenges in the US with those terrif rights. 258 00:12:57,800 --> 00:13:01,000 Speaker 8: Although we've seen our exports go up to the US 259 00:13:01,080 --> 00:13:03,800 Speaker 8: with that ten percent tariff and even fifteen percent. So 260 00:13:04,160 --> 00:13:06,600 Speaker 8: the world wants to buy what New Zealand is producing, 261 00:13:07,160 --> 00:13:09,760 Speaker 8: and we've got you know, very very good companies that 262 00:13:09,840 --> 00:13:12,160 Speaker 8: are making the most of that and smartly looking for 263 00:13:12,200 --> 00:13:14,120 Speaker 8: the best opportunity in markets around the world. 264 00:13:14,240 --> 00:13:16,120 Speaker 2: You mentioned the US, how we are How are we 265 00:13:16,160 --> 00:13:17,920 Speaker 2: getting on there? I think you gave us an update 266 00:13:17,960 --> 00:13:19,840 Speaker 2: a couple of weeks ago, but I saw the OAA 267 00:13:19,960 --> 00:13:22,280 Speaker 2: of your of the correspondence on the day that it 268 00:13:22,400 --> 00:13:24,920 Speaker 2: all got announced. Are we thinking to buying some big 269 00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:26,719 Speaker 2: boeings from Trump? Is that going to help you? 270 00:13:27,600 --> 00:13:30,480 Speaker 8: Yeah? Well, I mean I've continued to make the case 271 00:13:30,559 --> 00:13:34,120 Speaker 8: to the US USCR that you know, most of the 272 00:13:34,200 --> 00:13:36,920 Speaker 8: time they have a fairly large trade surplus against US, 273 00:13:36,960 --> 00:13:40,440 Speaker 8: and at the moment occasionally we have a modest trade surplus. 274 00:13:40,480 --> 00:13:42,800 Speaker 8: It goes and the other way, in his edit, are 275 00:13:42,920 --> 00:13:45,360 Speaker 8: buying planes from them. We announced a small short while 276 00:13:45,440 --> 00:13:49,080 Speaker 8: ago military spend including helicopters. This is actually just all 277 00:13:49,160 --> 00:13:51,400 Speaker 8: business as usual. So you know, we're making the case 278 00:13:51,480 --> 00:13:54,920 Speaker 8: to them that that ultimately the trade is very you know, 279 00:13:55,240 --> 00:13:59,040 Speaker 8: it's well balanced, it's complementary. But again, the President made 280 00:13:59,080 --> 00:14:02,040 Speaker 8: a decision every single country who had a trade surplus 281 00:14:02,160 --> 00:14:05,959 Speaker 8: last year against them as fifteen percent or more. What 282 00:14:06,120 --> 00:14:08,640 Speaker 8: we're working through with them is what the mechanism is 283 00:14:09,040 --> 00:14:11,280 Speaker 8: if we go back to a dessicit for that to 284 00:14:11,360 --> 00:14:14,400 Speaker 8: come back to ten percent, And frustratingly, the answer is 285 00:14:14,760 --> 00:14:15,600 Speaker 8: they don't know yet. 286 00:14:16,360 --> 00:14:19,800 Speaker 2: That is frustrating. What about do you think Kiwi businesses 287 00:14:20,000 --> 00:14:24,720 Speaker 2: were buying, making big purchases. Should they consider going US now? 288 00:14:24,800 --> 00:14:27,200 Speaker 8: I think they should continue to make decisions for themselves 289 00:14:27,240 --> 00:14:30,560 Speaker 8: as to you know, where to get whatever they need 290 00:14:30,720 --> 00:14:32,480 Speaker 8: from or what's the best of them and their business 291 00:14:32,920 --> 00:14:35,040 Speaker 8: equally the same as selling. But the US remains a 292 00:14:35,160 --> 00:14:38,280 Speaker 8: very close friend of ours. We trade a lot with them. 293 00:14:38,320 --> 00:14:40,640 Speaker 8: It is important market to us. And as I said, 294 00:14:40,640 --> 00:14:42,800 Speaker 8: if we look at red meat as an example, right, 295 00:14:43,080 --> 00:14:45,160 Speaker 8: I think last month I saw set said we sold 296 00:14:45,200 --> 00:14:47,520 Speaker 8: them more than any months before, certainly a lot more 297 00:14:47,560 --> 00:14:51,600 Speaker 8: than before before the terrorists came on. So US consumers 298 00:14:51,640 --> 00:14:54,120 Speaker 8: still want to buy things from New Zealand, even though 299 00:14:54,360 --> 00:14:57,360 Speaker 8: it's costing them. I'd ask them ten to fifteen percent more. 300 00:14:57,680 --> 00:14:59,960 Speaker 2: Topic lay Agriculture and UST. Appreciate your time This morning, 301 00:15:00,120 --> 00:15:03,400 Speaker 2: twenty five minutes after five NEWSTALKSB the early. 302 00:15:03,360 --> 00:15:08,520 Speaker 1: Edition full the Show podcast on IHARM Radio powered by NEWSTALKSB. 303 00:15:09,880 --> 00:15:12,440 Speaker 2: Five twenty seven. It was always going to be a 304 00:15:12,600 --> 00:15:15,560 Speaker 2: risky strategy, but it seems to be backfiring kind of 305 00:15:15,600 --> 00:15:18,040 Speaker 2: badly for Labour At the moment, the two year policy 306 00:15:18,160 --> 00:15:21,200 Speaker 2: drought is now over over, it's been broken. The heavens 307 00:15:21,240 --> 00:15:23,480 Speaker 2: have opened and a flood, or more like a couple 308 00:15:23,520 --> 00:15:26,360 Speaker 2: of rain drops of policy have come through. The reason 309 00:15:26,400 --> 00:15:29,840 Speaker 2: it's gone about Haywhy is not just because Hipkins forgot 310 00:15:30,200 --> 00:15:33,800 Speaker 2: that his health spokesperson was actually announcing a policy yesterday, 311 00:15:33,840 --> 00:15:37,240 Speaker 2: but because of the contents of the policy. In a nutshell, 312 00:15:37,360 --> 00:15:40,520 Speaker 2: it's about letting some independent group of experts decide on 313 00:15:40,640 --> 00:15:43,360 Speaker 2: health funding for GPS, and as I mentioned yesterday, a 314 00:15:43,480 --> 00:15:47,080 Speaker 2: trend is now emerging. Labour doesn't trust itself to make 315 00:15:47,160 --> 00:15:51,280 Speaker 2: wise choices, or rather it knows the electorate doesn't trust 316 00:15:51,320 --> 00:15:53,440 Speaker 2: it to make wise choices with their hard earned money. 317 00:15:53,520 --> 00:15:58,400 Speaker 2: That's why they are outsourcing decisions about funding to other people. 318 00:15:59,160 --> 00:16:01,560 Speaker 2: They did it with the Future Fund and now they're 319 00:16:01,600 --> 00:16:04,880 Speaker 2: doing it with health. In some ways it's smart. They're 320 00:16:04,920 --> 00:16:07,600 Speaker 2: trying to suggest that National will sell off the assets, 321 00:16:07,640 --> 00:16:09,760 Speaker 2: they'll defund the doctors, so there needs to be an 322 00:16:09,760 --> 00:16:14,040 Speaker 2: independent group making these decisions. But mostly it's done because 323 00:16:14,400 --> 00:16:17,280 Speaker 2: there's one thing key Wes don't like backing, and that's 324 00:16:17,320 --> 00:16:19,960 Speaker 2: a loser. And this strategy feels like a loser because 325 00:16:20,000 --> 00:16:23,680 Speaker 2: it lacks confidence. It's the message it's sending. It doesn't 326 00:16:23,720 --> 00:16:27,480 Speaker 2: say here's where i'll put your money, here's how, here's why. 327 00:16:28,040 --> 00:16:31,800 Speaker 2: It says I'm not too confident that you're confident in me, 328 00:16:32,400 --> 00:16:34,520 Speaker 2: so I'll give your money to someone else to decide. 329 00:16:34,680 --> 00:16:37,520 Speaker 2: Feels a bit weak. It's not a plan or a policy. 330 00:16:37,600 --> 00:16:40,320 Speaker 2: It's almost an admission of guilt of failure in the 331 00:16:40,400 --> 00:16:44,720 Speaker 2: previous government. If the goal was to box National into 332 00:16:44,760 --> 00:16:47,760 Speaker 2: a corner during an election campaign that also creates problems. 333 00:16:48,080 --> 00:16:50,480 Speaker 2: Are these the best policies to grow New Zealand and 334 00:16:50,560 --> 00:16:53,160 Speaker 2: can get the best outcomes, or are they just politically 335 00:16:53,320 --> 00:16:57,040 Speaker 2: expedient policies designed to start fights on a campaign trail. 336 00:16:58,720 --> 00:17:00,640 Speaker 2: All of this, of course, comes ahead of capital gains 337 00:17:00,640 --> 00:17:02,760 Speaker 2: tax announcement. We're expecting that apparently in a couple of 338 00:17:02,800 --> 00:17:06,160 Speaker 2: weeks time. What's next they'll let a group of accountants 339 00:17:06,320 --> 00:17:11,440 Speaker 2: decide who should pay tax on what income. Confidence is 340 00:17:11,520 --> 00:17:14,040 Speaker 2: key in politics, and you've got to know what you 341 00:17:14,200 --> 00:17:16,000 Speaker 2: want and you've got to go for it. Chippy so 342 00:17:16,200 --> 00:17:18,720 Speaker 2: far looks like he's left his mojo at the door. 343 00:17:19,520 --> 00:17:22,399 Speaker 2: Five nine on News Talks, HEIDB Gavin Gray out of 344 00:17:22,440 --> 00:17:23,800 Speaker 2: the UK after News. 345 00:17:31,080 --> 00:17:33,640 Speaker 1: The news you need this morning and the in depth 346 00:17:33,680 --> 00:17:37,920 Speaker 1: analysis Early edition with Ryan Bridge and are the Supercenter 347 00:17:38,200 --> 00:17:42,280 Speaker 1: explore RV's accessories and servicing all in one News Talks dB. 348 00:17:50,400 --> 00:17:52,480 Speaker 2: Pretty far away from six here on News Talalks, HEB 349 00:17:52,680 --> 00:17:55,000 Speaker 2: we'll get to the maccabill past in Parliament last night 350 00:17:55,040 --> 00:17:57,040 Speaker 2: before six. Gavin Gray out of the UK for US. 351 00:17:57,119 --> 00:18:00,280 Speaker 2: Nicholas Psarcosy's in jail right now in Paris. Some things 352 00:18:00,359 --> 00:18:02,760 Speaker 2: going on with the Global Dairy Trade Auction results the 353 00:18:02,880 --> 00:18:05,439 Speaker 2: website this morning, and because normally we bring you these 354 00:18:05,520 --> 00:18:07,840 Speaker 2: numbers because we're up in early and we're up in Adam. 355 00:18:08,560 --> 00:18:12,359 Speaker 2: But this morning the Global Dairy Trade Auction website did 356 00:18:12,400 --> 00:18:14,520 Speaker 2: an update. There was an auction last night. We know 357 00:18:14,640 --> 00:18:18,679 Speaker 2: that much. The newsroom got an email and so they 358 00:18:18,840 --> 00:18:21,600 Speaker 2: reckoned that whole milk powder was down four point six percent, 359 00:18:21,600 --> 00:18:23,400 Speaker 2: which is the one we really care about. Skim milk 360 00:18:23,400 --> 00:18:25,800 Speaker 2: powder down two point one. But I didn't really want 361 00:18:25,840 --> 00:18:27,920 Speaker 2: to read those numbers out because I'm not entirely sure 362 00:18:27,960 --> 00:18:31,240 Speaker 2: that they're accurate. At this point. Judy has text and 363 00:18:31,359 --> 00:18:34,440 Speaker 2: soa Ryan. The results have been removed off the website 364 00:18:34,520 --> 00:18:36,840 Speaker 2: for recalibration, so we'll have to come back to you 365 00:18:36,960 --> 00:18:40,960 Speaker 2: on that one. I'm afraid. Now in the UK the 366 00:18:41,400 --> 00:18:45,280 Speaker 2: Brits are all nickers in a twist still about Prince Andrew, 367 00:18:45,560 --> 00:18:48,600 Speaker 2: and with good reason. And there are now EMPs lining 368 00:18:48,680 --> 00:18:50,800 Speaker 2: up to say, actually we because at the moment his 369 00:18:51,040 --> 00:18:53,840 Speaker 2: titles he can, he still has them, he just doesn't 370 00:18:54,040 --> 00:18:56,440 Speaker 2: use them. They're like almost dormant while they're trying to 371 00:18:56,440 --> 00:18:57,320 Speaker 2: get rid of them. Altogether. 372 00:18:57,480 --> 00:19:00,199 Speaker 9: He had associations with Jeffrey ight'stone of which they were 373 00:19:00,280 --> 00:19:03,639 Speaker 9: victims and survivors from that abuse that we do know 374 00:19:03,800 --> 00:19:06,679 Speaker 9: took place. So of course what we want to make 375 00:19:06,760 --> 00:19:09,760 Speaker 9: sure is that there are mechanisms in place, whether they're 376 00:19:09,760 --> 00:19:12,040 Speaker 9: triggered or not. That I am not making that call. 377 00:19:12,119 --> 00:19:14,920 Speaker 9: What I'm saying is that aren't those mechanisms in place, 378 00:19:15,440 --> 00:19:18,600 Speaker 9: and really they should be, cryen Bridge. 379 00:19:18,920 --> 00:19:20,960 Speaker 2: Let's go to our reporters around the country. Callum Proctor 380 00:19:21,000 --> 00:19:25,280 Speaker 2: Undernedan Callum, good morning morning, Right, Whetucky District Council. They're 381 00:19:25,320 --> 00:19:27,679 Speaker 2: doing water, Yeah, they are. 382 00:19:27,920 --> 00:19:30,480 Speaker 10: This is due to the government's announcement that they're appointing 383 00:19:30,920 --> 00:19:34,600 Speaker 10: a Crown Facilitator to help them redo their water service 384 00:19:34,680 --> 00:19:39,560 Speaker 10: delivery delivery plan for the White Tuckey They've been told 385 00:19:39,600 --> 00:19:42,680 Speaker 10: to include assessment of their drinking water, wastewater and stormwater 386 00:19:42,840 --> 00:19:47,280 Speaker 10: networks as required undernew local Water Done Well laws. The 387 00:19:47,359 --> 00:19:51,080 Speaker 10: mayor elect for the White Tacky Council is Melanie Taverndale. 388 00:19:51,280 --> 00:19:54,359 Speaker 10: She's thanking the local government Minister Simon Watts and his 389 00:19:54,520 --> 00:19:57,359 Speaker 10: support for a new plan. She says the new council 390 00:19:57,400 --> 00:19:59,760 Speaker 10: will seek a pathway forward after they are sworn in 391 00:19:59,800 --> 00:20:02,719 Speaker 10: to day the updated plan, including of full as set 392 00:20:02,760 --> 00:20:06,440 Speaker 10: assessments due by June next year. This Crown Facilitator Ryan 393 00:20:06,440 --> 00:20:07,880 Speaker 10: will be confirmed by mid November. 394 00:20:07,960 --> 00:20:08,920 Speaker 2: All right, how's your weather. 395 00:20:10,080 --> 00:20:12,280 Speaker 10: It's fine but still windy, So we got Gail Force 396 00:20:12,359 --> 00:20:14,240 Speaker 10: westerlies at times today the high twenty. 397 00:20:14,560 --> 00:20:17,480 Speaker 2: Thanks Callum and Claire Sherwood's and christ this morning, Claire, 398 00:20:17,840 --> 00:20:21,320 Speaker 2: good morning. Now overwhelming demand. This is another one of 399 00:20:21,359 --> 00:20:23,639 Speaker 2: those stories about a job opening up and then you 400 00:20:23,760 --> 00:20:25,240 Speaker 2: get thousands of applications. 401 00:20:25,560 --> 00:20:28,480 Speaker 11: Yeah, crazy numbers of applications. This is where our new 402 00:20:28,600 --> 00:20:33,280 Speaker 11: metro sports center, Padakiode Councils confirmed more than three thousand 403 00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:36,320 Speaker 11: people applied for two hundred and twenty six jobs. The 404 00:20:36,520 --> 00:20:39,119 Speaker 11: center will open a bit later this year and council 405 00:20:39,200 --> 00:20:42,360 Speaker 11: tells us that there were roles for the likes of lifeguards, 406 00:20:42,440 --> 00:20:46,400 Speaker 11: admin staff and swimming tutors. They received applications from people 407 00:20:46,480 --> 00:20:50,080 Speaker 11: aged anywhere from sixteen right up to sixty. Head of 408 00:20:50,160 --> 00:20:53,639 Speaker 11: Recreation in Sports Nigel Cox says jobs at council facilities 409 00:20:53,720 --> 00:20:56,520 Speaker 11: and do always attract a good response, but not usually 410 00:20:56,600 --> 00:20:59,600 Speaker 11: anywhere near the scale. He says the market is pretty 411 00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:02,400 Speaker 11: unique with record numbers of people moving to Christ Church 412 00:21:02,480 --> 00:21:05,080 Speaker 11: and of course the UNI here, he says, it shows 413 00:21:05,320 --> 00:21:08,040 Speaker 11: some excitement for the center, and of course it does 414 00:21:08,119 --> 00:21:11,160 Speaker 11: come after the Rolliston packinsay, which had three two hundred 415 00:21:11,240 --> 00:21:13,920 Speaker 11: applications for roughly the same number of jobs. 416 00:21:14,440 --> 00:21:16,119 Speaker 12: It is believed to be a bit of a reflection 417 00:21:16,240 --> 00:21:17,520 Speaker 12: of the wider job markets. 418 00:21:17,680 --> 00:21:18,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, how's your weather? Clear? 419 00:21:19,640 --> 00:21:22,600 Speaker 11: Mainly find today a bit of high cloud about northwesterlies 420 00:21:22,640 --> 00:21:25,000 Speaker 11: will be strong at times, the high twenty one. 421 00:21:25,080 --> 00:21:27,080 Speaker 2: All right, thank you very much. Max, and Wellington Max, 422 00:21:27,160 --> 00:21:29,440 Speaker 2: we know Wellington's windy, but yesterday was something else. 423 00:21:30,040 --> 00:21:33,199 Speaker 13: Oh look, we're famed for our gusts, but Wellingtonian knows 424 00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:34,520 Speaker 13: when the wind is out of the ordinary, and it 425 00:21:34,600 --> 00:21:37,000 Speaker 13: was certainly out of the ordinary yesterday. We got close 426 00:21:37,040 --> 00:21:40,600 Speaker 13: to one hundred and fifty clicks kilometers per hour in parts. 427 00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:43,320 Speaker 13: It got up to one hundred and twenty one hundred 428 00:21:43,320 --> 00:21:46,360 Speaker 13: and thirty in the city, which is close to unprecedented 429 00:21:47,080 --> 00:21:50,679 Speaker 13: tragedy a man walking beneath trees in Mount Victoria killed 430 00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:55,040 Speaker 13: by a falling branch. Video as well, that's now gone 431 00:21:55,080 --> 00:21:57,920 Speaker 13: viral of a woman being hurled into traffic. She can't 432 00:21:58,040 --> 00:22:01,280 Speaker 13: help herself. The wind picks her up effectively throws are 433 00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:04,080 Speaker 13: into traffic really fortunately seen by approaching cars that we're 434 00:22:04,119 --> 00:22:08,680 Speaker 13: able to stop in time. Damage to trees, roofs, structures, services, 435 00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:13,560 Speaker 13: canceled or delayed flights, trucks and trailers overturning as well. 436 00:22:13,600 --> 00:22:16,040 Speaker 13: What we're looking at is two more days of gale 437 00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:19,800 Speaker 13: winds now, but today not as bad Thursday. It looks 438 00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:23,480 Speaker 13: almost as dangerous as it was yesterday. So plenty of 439 00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:26,080 Speaker 13: wind warnings around. Please take care out there. 440 00:22:25,960 --> 00:22:27,920 Speaker 2: All right, it sounds like it, Max, Thank you for that. Max, 441 00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:30,560 Speaker 2: and Wellington and Neva and Auckland never good morning, Good 442 00:22:30,600 --> 00:22:32,800 Speaker 2: morning you. Wahiki Fury being launched today. 443 00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:34,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, good news. 444 00:22:34,359 --> 00:22:37,199 Speaker 12: And this is because you know, tourism seektor ramping up 445 00:22:37,320 --> 00:22:40,919 Speaker 12: summers coming, so Island direct they're adding more than one 446 00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:43,560 Speaker 12: hundred and fifty seats to its Auckland Wahiki Fery route. 447 00:22:43,880 --> 00:22:48,280 Speaker 12: This is a new twenty two meter ketamaran, so it's 448 00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:50,560 Speaker 12: going to have sailings almost every hour, which is good. 449 00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:55,240 Speaker 12: And that's from both downtown Auckland and also Wayhiki's Matitia Wharf. 450 00:22:55,720 --> 00:22:58,280 Speaker 12: David Todd, he's the director of Island Directors, is look 451 00:22:58,320 --> 00:23:00,240 Speaker 12: that they just had to make them most to the 452 00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:02,119 Speaker 12: demand coming through get it off the ground. 453 00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:04,639 Speaker 2: That's cool because they've already got some services off and 454 00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:08,440 Speaker 2: I've unlike the regular Fury service, you can book a 455 00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:10,880 Speaker 2: seat full. You can book a seat on this one. 456 00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:13,120 Speaker 2: I think. Yeah, so you can actually get a guaranteed 457 00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:15,159 Speaker 2: spot instead of turning up on a long weekend and 458 00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:16,040 Speaker 2: waiting for hours. 459 00:23:16,040 --> 00:23:16,600 Speaker 13: And that's right. 460 00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:18,320 Speaker 12: And the queues are out the door. 461 00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:19,119 Speaker 2: Look at you? 462 00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:21,280 Speaker 12: What's your just looking? I can see your face. You've 463 00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:22,000 Speaker 12: got a beard trim. 464 00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:23,520 Speaker 2: I've been to the barbie yesterday. 465 00:23:24,119 --> 00:23:24,640 Speaker 12: Very nice. 466 00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:27,240 Speaker 2: He's done the head, he's done the beard. Yes, he's 467 00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:32,359 Speaker 2: done the back, he's done the chest. 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A t's and 494 00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:44,160 Speaker 2: c's apply. 495 00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:48,640 Speaker 1: International correspondence with NZ and Eye Insurance Peace of Mind 496 00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:49,760 Speaker 1: for New Zealand business. 497 00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:53,800 Speaker 2: Nikola Psychozy, ex French president, is in jail right now, 498 00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:57,320 Speaker 2: fourteen away from six Scavin gray Are UK europe correspondents 499 00:24:57,400 --> 00:24:59,760 Speaker 2: Gevin extraordinary. 500 00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:03,600 Speaker 14: Yes, he becomes the first French ex president to go 501 00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:07,520 Speaker 14: to jail. He's starting a five year sentence for conspiring 502 00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:10,960 Speaker 14: to fund his election campaign with money from the late 503 00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:15,719 Speaker 14: Libyan dictator Mohamaga Daffi. He denies this. Nevertheless, he has 504 00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:19,000 Speaker 14: been sentenced to this time behind bars. And the last 505 00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:24,400 Speaker 14: French leader of a political party was sentenced eighty years 506 00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:27,440 Speaker 14: ago to prison. That was for treason for being a 507 00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:30,520 Speaker 14: collaborator during World War Two. So this is a really 508 00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:34,199 Speaker 14: really monumental moment. Sarkas he was president from two thousand 509 00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:36,800 Speaker 14: and seven to twenty twelve, and as I said, he 510 00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:39,960 Speaker 14: has appeared against his jail term. But it's going to 511 00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:44,480 Speaker 14: be pretty tough in there. The Montpasse district south of 512 00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:48,119 Speaker 14: the River Seine, which is where this nineteenth century prison is. 513 00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:52,720 Speaker 14: It's notoriously overcrowded. He'll be in isolation in a cell 514 00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:57,600 Speaker 14: that's roughly nine to eleven square meters and he will 515 00:25:57,760 --> 00:26:01,000 Speaker 14: in that have a desk, a show, a toilet, a 516 00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:03,720 Speaker 14: small electric hob and a small fridge. But this is 517 00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:07,879 Speaker 14: a huge comedown for the former president and allowed just 518 00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:11,840 Speaker 14: one hour a day for exercise. It seems really pretty tough. 519 00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:14,680 Speaker 14: Indeed so tough that at the end of the last week, 520 00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:19,520 Speaker 14: sa was received at the Elisee Palace by President Emmanuel Macron. 521 00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:22,280 Speaker 14: He wouldn't comment on what had happened to one of 522 00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:25,400 Speaker 14: his predecessors, but he said, you know, as a former president, 523 00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:28,240 Speaker 14: he's entitled to come. And in another show of support 524 00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:31,240 Speaker 14: for the ex president, the Justice Minister said he would 525 00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:33,000 Speaker 14: go to visit him in prison as part of his 526 00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:36,320 Speaker 14: role in ensuring his safety and the proper functioning of 527 00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:39,200 Speaker 14: the jail. Safety a big issue. There are some terrorists 528 00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:42,320 Speaker 14: in that prison and there are also some very very 529 00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:45,080 Speaker 14: heavy criminals. Shall I phrase it that way? 530 00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:48,520 Speaker 2: It's all about Missy over there, isn't that the politicians 531 00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:51,280 Speaker 2: and their brushes with the Lord because Lapina is still bad, 532 00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:53,320 Speaker 2: isn't she from running for president over there? 533 00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:58,399 Speaker 14: Yes, that could change. 534 00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:01,720 Speaker 2: Kevin Gray are UK, you're correspondent. It is twelve minutes 535 00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:02,280 Speaker 2: away from. 536 00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:03,600 Speaker 15: Six Brian Bridge. 537 00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:07,080 Speaker 2: The maccabill This is multi customary title passes its third 538 00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:08,560 Speaker 2: reading in the House last night. 539 00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:12,959 Speaker 16: The bill seeks to restore the clarity to the Marine 540 00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:17,040 Speaker 16: and Corstal Area Acts. It seeks to protect property rates 541 00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:19,320 Speaker 16: and pass through legal clarity. 542 00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:21,840 Speaker 2: He should be ashamed of the bill, and he. 543 00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:25,359 Speaker 16: Should be ashamed of himself, and he thinks it's a 544 00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:25,920 Speaker 16: big joke. 545 00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:29,280 Speaker 17: This bill is not, as the Government insists, a tidy 546 00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:33,439 Speaker 17: clarification of an old law. It is an incredibly blunt 547 00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:38,199 Speaker 17: instrument that tears the very foundations of justice, uppins our 548 00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:43,919 Speaker 17: court processes, and undermines a hard fought relationship between ta 549 00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:45,359 Speaker 17: Ewie Maldy and the Crown. 550 00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:48,960 Speaker 2: Tom Bennion is a marti wrights lawyer, former registrar for 551 00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:50,840 Speaker 2: the White Thing He Tribunal. Joins me this morning, Tom, 552 00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:53,720 Speaker 2: Good morning, good morning, Good to have you on the show. 553 00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:56,879 Speaker 2: Does this not just restore the original intent of the 554 00:27:57,000 --> 00:27:58,359 Speaker 2: law than twenty eleven? 555 00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:04,560 Speaker 15: Doesn't that fact that the Act itself actually says listen, 556 00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:09,040 Speaker 15: please put decide the purpose of the twenty eleven Act 557 00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:13,720 Speaker 15: when you're when you're interpreting this new edition, which is 558 00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:15,840 Speaker 15: a sure giveaway. 559 00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:19,879 Speaker 2: What exactly is changing that you know? The general line 560 00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:23,440 Speaker 2: is that there will be stronger proof required for you 561 00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:27,600 Speaker 2: have to prove that you had uninterrupted exclusive use of 562 00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:31,879 Speaker 2: a foreshore sea bed since eighteen forty? Is that basically it? 563 00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:33,560 Speaker 7: Yeah? 564 00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:36,960 Speaker 15: Well, The way it was worded before was listen, everybody 565 00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:41,360 Speaker 15: go to court. Here's some words, argue it out. See 566 00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:44,680 Speaker 15: under the purpose of the Act, et cetera. Where you think, 567 00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:48,280 Speaker 15: you know these rights ended up, and this new one 568 00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:51,080 Speaker 15: says no, we'll listen. That that was the course of 569 00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:54,040 Speaker 15: said interpreted it to say that you might get these 570 00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:57,480 Speaker 15: customer rights along most of the coast. Don't like that, 571 00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:00,680 Speaker 15: so listen, we'll just change it to say basically, yeah, 572 00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:03,320 Speaker 15: you've got to Basically it looks like I mean that 573 00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:06,360 Speaker 15: the lawyers argued out. It looks like they're trying to 574 00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:09,200 Speaker 15: say you're just about to have to stand there with 575 00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:11,880 Speaker 15: a with a t on the water's edge and tell 576 00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:14,880 Speaker 15: everybody to bugger off since eighteen forty three to the 577 00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:16,480 Speaker 15: current day, and if you didn't do that, you're not 578 00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:19,120 Speaker 15: getting anything. That seems to be the test now. But 579 00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:21,640 Speaker 15: you know they'll always argue whether that really is the case, 580 00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:25,480 Speaker 15: and that we'll we'll we'll try clearly to try and say, 581 00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:30,800 Speaker 15: you know, Parliament still hasn't actually entirely said we're going 582 00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:33,600 Speaker 15: to eradicate Malori wrights right up and down the coast. 583 00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:36,520 Speaker 15: Because these guys are making these changes are too coy 584 00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:39,800 Speaker 15: to say that out front and we'll see, we'll see. 585 00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:40,080 Speaker 8: What we get to. 586 00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:44,160 Speaker 2: Does this mean that people like you, lawyers are going 587 00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:45,200 Speaker 2: to make a lot of money out of this? 588 00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:49,520 Speaker 15: This is a lawyer's payday. Thank you very much to 589 00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:52,320 Speaker 15: this government. They've turned a problem that was pretty much 590 00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:56,200 Speaker 15: solved into I think not only will lawyers make money 591 00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:58,960 Speaker 15: out of this now, but I think you've you've basically 592 00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:02,080 Speaker 15: turned something that was a sense solved into a multimillion 593 00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:05,480 Speaker 15: dollar problem for probably hundreds of millions of dollars for 594 00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:06,640 Speaker 15: a subsequent. 595 00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:07,760 Speaker 8: Set of taxpayers. 596 00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:09,760 Speaker 15: Well, this will come back. 597 00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:11,240 Speaker 8: I mean, I mean, I do legal history. 598 00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:14,920 Speaker 15: This will come back people. The last words of this 599 00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:17,040 Speaker 15: act that was past us I'm looking at it now 600 00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:21,000 Speaker 15: says a person is not entitled compensation of any kind 601 00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:24,560 Speaker 15: on account of the operation of this amendment, which lets 602 00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:29,640 Speaker 15: you know they're taking something away and that will cost 603 00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:33,360 Speaker 15: some future taxpayers of New Zealand quite a lot of money. 604 00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:35,720 Speaker 2: I appreciate your time this morning. Tom Bennyan, who's a 605 00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:39,120 Speaker 2: mighty rights lawyer, former registrar at the White Tanking Tribune, 606 00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:41,280 Speaker 2: or nine minutes away from six News talks at b Marke. 607 00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:44,640 Speaker 1: Next, the first word on the News of the Day 608 00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:49,240 Speaker 1: Early edition with Ryan Bridge and Are the SuperStor explore 609 00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:52,680 Speaker 1: r v's accessories and servicing more than one news talk 610 00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:53,800 Speaker 1: setb It. 611 00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:56,200 Speaker 2: Is six minutes away from six mics in the studio. Mike, 612 00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:59,440 Speaker 2: good morning, good morning. Hey you know, sir Brian Roch. 613 00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:01,160 Speaker 2: Do you how do you? I disagree with you? 614 00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:05,400 Speaker 18: I mean, not vehemently, I don't really care, but it 615 00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:07,120 Speaker 18: would be a better look if he was sort of 616 00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:08,880 Speaker 18: there on the day and all that sort of stuff. 617 00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:10,760 Speaker 18: But then again, you given credence to a bunch of 618 00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:12,680 Speaker 18: no hopers who are just wandering around in the rain. 619 00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:15,080 Speaker 18: Have you seen the forecast for tomorrow pouring in the frame? 620 00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:18,600 Speaker 2: It would be a safety issue should they proceed were well, probably, 621 00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:19,000 Speaker 2: I don't know. 622 00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:21,320 Speaker 18: The inkle drip off the placards, I don't know, But I. 623 00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:22,600 Speaker 2: Mean the point is, what do you want them to do? 624 00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:25,280 Speaker 2: Well to say, what be available? 625 00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:26,160 Speaker 8: I do it for what? 626 00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:27,320 Speaker 2: For negotiation? 627 00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:29,680 Speaker 18: They're not negotiating on the day they're on. 628 00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:32,360 Speaker 2: Strike, No, but leading up to I mean I think 629 00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:34,880 Speaker 2: they should all be locked in a room together until. 630 00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:37,920 Speaker 18: That's compulsory arbitration. Couldn't agree with you more, but I 631 00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:39,840 Speaker 18: asked the Prime Minister about this on Monday because I 632 00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:41,600 Speaker 18: had singing and on last week and I said, you 633 00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:43,160 Speaker 18: need to change the law and he said, we're going 634 00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:44,480 Speaker 18: to look at that, and I thought good. Then I 635 00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:46,600 Speaker 18: asked the Prime Minister on Monday, said what about changing 636 00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:49,200 Speaker 18: the law and he goes, na, not now, and I thought, 637 00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:52,479 Speaker 18: come on, get a backbone. You should have rules whereby 638 00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:54,160 Speaker 18: you go. And these are the same people. You've got 639 00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:56,920 Speaker 18: to remember, teachers, nurses, doctors, they're all the same people. 640 00:31:57,360 --> 00:32:00,080 Speaker 18: So you go, look, have three cracks, best shot and 641 00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:02,760 Speaker 18: at the end of its compulsory arbitration and they make 642 00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:04,560 Speaker 18: a call and that's the end of it. And you 643 00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:07,320 Speaker 18: realize we used to do this in this in the country, 644 00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:08,920 Speaker 18: so it's not like we haven't been here. 645 00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:11,840 Speaker 2: But with critical you know, if it's student achievement at risk, 646 00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:13,680 Speaker 2: if it's healthcare at risk. 647 00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:16,479 Speaker 18: Yeah, but I mean yeah, but I mean, how long 648 00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:18,160 Speaker 18: do you go run around the mulberry bush on this. 649 00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:20,320 Speaker 18: It's like that argument that's not really about money, it's 650 00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:21,280 Speaker 18: about student achievement. 651 00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:23,400 Speaker 2: Is no, are you asking for money? I mean the 652 00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:25,880 Speaker 2: disruption to student achievement from strikes, of. 653 00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:29,240 Speaker 18: Course, So the wider necessit, the wider good needs a 654 00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:32,640 Speaker 18: greater waiting, which is what compulsory arbitration is all about. 655 00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:34,720 Speaker 18: You say, eventually, look you've had a crack. We're going 656 00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:37,040 Speaker 18: around and around in circles. We'll make a call and 657 00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:38,440 Speaker 18: that'll be the end of that one. I mean, you've 658 00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:40,360 Speaker 18: got to remember the government takes a risk on that 659 00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:43,239 Speaker 18: because of course, if you go to compulsory arbitration and go, well, 660 00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:45,080 Speaker 18: I don't care if you've got no money, they deserve 661 00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:45,840 Speaker 18: three and a half a cent. 662 00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:46,240 Speaker 15: There it is. 663 00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:48,360 Speaker 2: How do you think Nicholas Sarkoz is feeling in this 664 00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:53,080 Speaker 2: little isolated cell in a Paris prison right now using. 665 00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:54,440 Speaker 18: The phone to ring the lawyer and go how long 666 00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:56,520 Speaker 18: does this last? Because I'm assuming he's not going to. 667 00:32:56,520 --> 00:32:58,640 Speaker 5: Be there for years, but he does get his own phone. 668 00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:03,200 Speaker 5: Apparently a direct to the lawyer deserved. But see, yesterday 669 00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:04,840 Speaker 5: I saw a photo of Carlo. She was out on 670 00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:08,080 Speaker 5: a knee scooter and she looked. They claimed she was 671 00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:10,480 Speaker 5: looking without a care in the world, and I thought, well, 672 00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:13,520 Speaker 5: that's not right anyway. Today she looked miserable as she 673 00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:15,280 Speaker 5: sort of turned up and said, well you would be, 674 00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:18,840 Speaker 5: but lonely, wouldn't she What she can make some more music. 675 00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:21,760 Speaker 18: Hold you, it'll be fantastic. 676 00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:23,640 Speaker 2: Hey, who's on the show this morning? 677 00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:27,240 Speaker 18: Goldsmith on the marine stuff that got passed last night. 678 00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:27,560 Speaker 2: I don't know. 679 00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:29,280 Speaker 18: Did people go out last night and light the fires 680 00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:29,640 Speaker 18: on the beach? 681 00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:30,240 Speaker 11: That was well? 682 00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:33,520 Speaker 2: Actually Finns came out and said, it's a very bad 683 00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:36,160 Speaker 2: time to do that. We've got vegetation fires at this price. 684 00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:37,200 Speaker 14: What do you do? 685 00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:40,840 Speaker 2: Do you strike? Maybe that's what caused the fires. Where 686 00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:45,479 Speaker 2: when you need him? All right, have a great day, everyone, 687 00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:47,480 Speaker 2: See you tomorrow on News Talks. They'd be. 688 00:33:56,120 --> 00:33:59,040 Speaker 1: For more from Early edition with Ryan Bridge. Listen live 689 00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:02,160 Speaker 1: to News Talks it be from five am weekdays, or 690 00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:04,160 Speaker 1: follow the podcast on iHeartRadio.