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Speaker 1: You're listening to the Saturday Morning with Jack Taine podcast

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Speaker 1: from News Talks EDB. Start your weekend off in style.

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Speaker 1: Saturday Mornings with Jack Taine and VPUWA dot co dot

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Speaker 2: News Talks Edbyarder, Good morning, Welcome to News Talks EDB

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Speaker 2: on the first F one weekend of twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 3: I think we can call it that. Liam Lawson of

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Speaker 3: course lining up in Melbourne and we are Formula one

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Speaker 3: focused on Newstalk's EDB this morning, so we're going to

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Speaker 3: give you all the details on this amazing new insiders

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Speaker 3: look at the Formula one competition, this new book. Before

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Speaker 3: twelve o'clock, as well as that, we're going to review

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Speaker 3: the latest season of F one Drive to Survive, which

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Speaker 3: really has driven so much of the support for the

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Speaker 3: sport over the last couple of years. And before ten

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Speaker 3: o'clock our Sporto with his thoughts on Liam Lawson's first

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Speaker 3: efforts on the track in Melbourne and his prospects ahead

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Speaker 3: of Race one. As well as that our feature interview

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Speaker 3: this weekend is so good. We're going to catch up

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Speaker 3: with Pat Monahan, the lead singer of Train. I mean

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Speaker 3: you just think, Hey, so, sister, I'm not going to

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Speaker 3: sing anymore because we're going to play it for you

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Speaker 3: just to ensure that it gets stuck in your head

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Speaker 3: for the next week or so. That has had just

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Speaker 3: a ludicrous number of streams on Spotify and all the

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Speaker 3: streaming platforms over the last few years. Pat's going to

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Speaker 3: give us the story of how he wrote Hay Soul's

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Speaker 3: Sister when he joins us right after the ten o'clock news.

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Speaker 3: Right now it is eight minutes past nine, Jack, Team

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Speaker 3: Canada will never be part of the United States. That

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Speaker 3: was the defining line of Mark Carney's first speeches Canada's

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Speaker 3: new Prime minister overnight. It was said not in jest,

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Speaker 3: not as a joke. It was said as a statement

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Speaker 3: of firm defiance, a serious response to Donald Trump's fifty

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Speaker 3: first state taunts. Look, we don't usually talk too much

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Speaker 3: about geopolitics on Saturday mornings. Usually we try and make

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Speaker 3: this a relatively geopolitic free zone. But I just cannot

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Speaker 3: think of a time in my life where so much

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Speaker 3: in the world was changing so quickly, you know, where,

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Speaker 3: like so much that we took for granted was being

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Speaker 3: tipped on its head and well, look, I bet that

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Speaker 3: Mark Kearney can't either. Mark Carney, be honest. Two months ago,

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Speaker 3: did you have any idea who Mark Kearney was. Just

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Speaker 3: a few weeks ago, his party was twenty five points

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Speaker 3: behind Canada's Conservatives in the polls. Mark Cantey wasn't even

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Speaker 3: a politician, and now he's Canada's Prime minister. There it is.

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Speaker 3: I suppose that is the power of Donald Trump. It's

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Speaker 3: kind of interesting how differently Mexico and Canada have approached

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Speaker 3: the Trump presidency and the threat of tariffs. So Mexico

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Speaker 3: was kind of used to Donald Trump's hostility from his

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Speaker 3: first term as president, and its government has taken softly, softly, gently,

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Speaker 3: gently diplomatic approach, delaying retaliation, hoping that negotiations will spare

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Speaker 3: them the worst of the economic pressure from their northern neighbor.

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Speaker 3: Mexico has actually been surprisingly quiet, I reckon over the

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Speaker 3: last couple of months. Canada, though, well, Canada's opted for

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Speaker 3: a much more combative response from its big retaliatory tariffs

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Speaker 3: to the ice hockey fans booing the US national anthem,

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Speaker 3: and the nationwide coordinated campaign not to buy American made stuff.

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Speaker 3: I've got a couple of mates in Canada. I was

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Speaker 3: speaking to one yesterday and she said, it's amazing the

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Speaker 3: extent to which everyone feels united. Like going to the supermarket,

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Speaker 3: there are signs that say this is made in Canada,

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Speaker 3: this is made in the US. Everyone's going for the

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Speaker 3: Canadian made product. The irony of Mark Carney's rapid rise

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Speaker 3: to Canadian Prime Minister is that his party's support has

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Speaker 3: come at the expense of a political opposition in Canada

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Speaker 3: that was arguably much more closely aligned to the Republicans

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Speaker 3: and to Donald Trump. It's just so ridiculous. So Canada's

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Speaker 3: opposition leader has effectively been forced to put out social

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Speaker 3: media videos now insisting Donald Trump hates me too. Fundamentally,

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Speaker 3: no country is going to outmuscle the US in an

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Speaker 3: economic fight. Maybe China, I suppose, But most countries are

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Speaker 3: not going to be able to out muscle the US

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Speaker 3: in an economic fight. Not Canada, not Mexico, not Australia,

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Speaker 3: and certainly not New Zealand. And I just reckon that

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Speaker 3: coordinated international response. So most countries are sucking up to

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Speaker 3: to attract Donald Trump's iire. But as Canada is bashed

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Speaker 3: by tariffs, it seems absurd, for example, that their king,

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Speaker 3: our King could possibly go ahead in welcoming Donald Trump

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Speaker 3: to the UK for an official state visit. What countries

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Speaker 3: are standing up for Canada? Winston Peters is in Washington,

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Speaker 3: now we will no doubt continue to try and maintain

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Speaker 3: a low profile. You just have to hope that behind

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Speaker 3: the scenes, like minded countries are quietly coordinating on a

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Speaker 3: longer term strategy Australia, Canada, the UK, EU countries and yes,

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Speaker 3: New Zealand, because playing a small target game only makes

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Speaker 3: sense until, for whatever reason, you do catch the President's attention,

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Speaker 3: and it could be something so minor right it could

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Speaker 3: a speech at an awards evening, or an ill advised

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Speaker 3: comment from a diplomat. The temptation for leaders around the

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Speaker 3: world is to shut up and just hope that their

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Speaker 3: countries can slip by unnoticed. But in the long term,

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Speaker 3: that's no way to defeat a bully. Jack DA ninety

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Speaker 3: It's fourteen minutes past nine. It's Saturday morning. I'm Jack Tame.

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Speaker 4: Little bit of way to kick off your weekend.

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Speaker 3: I cannot imagine that King Charles wants to meet with

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Speaker 3: Donald Trump. Necessarily, he just has to do what his

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Speaker 3: government tells him to do, says Mike. Wow, he doesn't

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Speaker 3: have to, does he. But yeah, yeah, it's a fair

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Speaker 3: point mine. I guess the question is whether or not

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Speaker 3: the UK should be inviting Donald Trump for an unprecedented

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Speaker 3: second state visit if one of its closest friends in

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Speaker 3: the Commonwealth is subject to US tariffs. Jax is another Mic.

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Speaker 3: We can all boycott US products we are in our house.

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Speaker 3: to catch up with Kevin Milne, who's with us this morning?

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Speaker 3: And Kevin, after that Hurricans performance last night, you're probably

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Speaker 3: feeling relatively buoyant.

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Speaker 6: I think, yeah, yeah, and the Warriors.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I was gonna say, you know, like yeah,

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Speaker 3: I mean, you know, the Trump presidency by design is

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Speaker 3: kind of volatile. You even know what's coming next. Just

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Speaker 3: a classic vintage Warriors performance last night, right anyway, you know,

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Speaker 6: It was a superb opening piece of yours, I thought, Jack,

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Speaker 6: a forceful, coordinated response. Exactly, you're ed on the nail

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Speaker 6: on the heade.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, I'm not sure necessarily that it will come

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Speaker 3: about because lots of countries I want to put their

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Speaker 3: yeahd be very interesting to see how Winston Peter's meetings

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Speaker 3: in Washington, DC go this week. But Kevin, you have

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Speaker 3: you found a new way to feel old this week?

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Speaker 4: Well?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, well let me go back just the step because

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Speaker 6: I want to wish your happy birthday earlier in the week.

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Speaker 3: Thank you. I think i'm officially in the in the

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Speaker 3: older half of New Zealand men. Now certainly i'm definitely

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it's my birthday next week, Jack, at which point

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Speaker 6: i'll be exactly twice your age.

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Speaker 3: Ah, very good, Well, happy birthday, Kevin. Yeah yeah, so

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Speaker 3: you'll you'll be thirty eight, will you?

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Speaker 7: Is that?

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Speaker 6: Yeah? But I've found a new way to make myself

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Speaker 6: feel really old. I've discovered at our local mall, Coastlands

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Speaker 6: a coin flip Bitcoin EIGHTYM. I see they're now at

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Speaker 6: one hundred and twenty four sites throughout the country. If

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Speaker 3: Yeah I have. I can honestly say that I haven't

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Speaker 6: I looked at this bitcoin ATM and I thought, that's interesting.

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Speaker 6: Can I insert the card, I use it at standard

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Speaker 6: A Bitcoin ATM is a kiosk that allows users to

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Speaker 6: purchase and sell digital assets known as cryptocurrencies. I'm not

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Speaker 6: sure I understand what a digital asset is, but anyway,

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Speaker 6: The website had the answer, what do you need to

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Speaker 6: make a transaction? Is a smartphone? Had one of those?

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Speaker 6: what a crypto wallet is. That the answer was on

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Speaker 6: the website. The crypto wallet is the coin flip non

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Speaker 6: custodial hot wallet available for both iOS and Android, making

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Speaker 6: using coin flip services even easier, Well, not easier enough

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Speaker 6: for me, mister coinflip Jack. You know how ATM machines

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Speaker 6: allow you to carry out transactions and various languages. Yeah,

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Speaker 6: I wonder if the coin Flip Bitcoin eighty ms might

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Speaker 6: introduce her techno translation service press for the older folk.

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Speaker 6: Now make me feel younger, Jack, would you have known

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Speaker 6: what a coin flip non custodial hot wallet was.

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Speaker 3: I don't know that I would have. I think I

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Speaker 3: would have had to google it as well. Kevin, I

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Speaker 3: certainly you know I understand what it did. Wallet is,

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Speaker 3: so I get that right. But yeah, I think I

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Speaker 3: think the thing that will show my naivete on this front,

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Speaker 3: not being someone who has invested in cryptocurrencies, is that

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Speaker 3: I wouldn't know whether you use one of those at

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Speaker 3: legal tender. Oh yeah, so I would have if I

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Speaker 3: turned up, I wouldn't know if I'd be withdrawing cash

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Speaker 3: like regular legal tender that we use physical cash, or

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Speaker 3: buying cryptocurrencies. I wouldn't know. Maybe you can do both.

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 4: You might be.

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Speaker 6: I think you might be able to Jack. I read

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Speaker 6: a bit about it. Yeah, but it got to the

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Speaker 6: point where I just thought, like half of this, I

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Speaker 6: don't even know what they're talking about. Yeah, so you know,

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Speaker 6: and I mean it may turn out that they become

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Speaker 6: extremely popular. I'm not saying that they're not a good thing.

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Speaker 6: I just they're just for people of my my generation

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Speaker 6: getting involved in coin flip non custodial wallets is highly unlikely.

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Speaker 3: Thank you for your for your texts and emails. Jack.

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Speaker 3: No, no, no, it was a great It was a

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Speaker 3: But my goodness, this young guy has a lot of

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Speaker 9: Look, it's the first day of practice, the first day

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Speaker 3: But globally's the big time.

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Speaker 3: It's just it's like it's the it's the biggest time,

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Speaker 7: The new guys.

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Speaker 9: It's saving money for Metallica later in the.

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Speaker 3: We just had to play it, you know, given Sam

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Speaker 3: this weekend. Francisca Rudkin, our film reviewer, is with us

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Speaker 1: Killed her good morning.

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Speaker 3: Got two films, both of them showing in cinemas this morning.

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Speaker 3: So let's start off with a little bit of a

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Speaker 3: Listen to a new film starring Kate Blunchhett and Michael Fassbender.

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Speaker 3: This is black Bag.

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Speaker 7: This is her.

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Speaker 11: You've each known what you know, and you know what

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Speaker 4: I watch her, and I assume she watches me. Are

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Speaker 12: Oh look, break half So Michael Facebreender, Cap Blane Sheet

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Speaker 3: That's yeah, that's great. Yeah, I love it.

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Speaker 12: At the moment, we do seem to be people are

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Speaker 12: complaining a little bit about slogging me away through through

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Speaker 12: long films. This is a film by Stephens photograph and

436
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Speaker 12: of course you're thinking, gosh, didn't we just review a

437
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Speaker 12: film by him recently? That was the sort of ghost

438
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Speaker 12: supernatural number called Presence. So for a man who decided

439
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Speaker 12: that he was going to retire from making films, he's

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Speaker 12: very prolific these days. This is a very sort of

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Speaker 12: sixy beautifully sort of put together, a little mature number

442
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Speaker 12: with a very dry, witty script. He is very much

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Speaker 12: and trying to get more mature audiences back into the

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Speaker 12: cinema with this little number. It's not a full on

445
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Speaker 12: action film as a sense, it kind of it's a

446
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Speaker 12: bit of a who Done It? It plays out a

447
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Speaker 12: little bit like a game of Cludo, and our characters

448
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Speaker 12: here are all sort of trying to work out how they're,

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Speaker 12: you know, how each other are maneuvering, and who potentially

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Speaker 12: could be a mole in London's National Cybersecurity Center. So

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Speaker 12: Michael Fassbender, he plays this character whose job it really

452
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Speaker 12: is to try and nut out who this potential mole

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Speaker 12: might be. And he's got some rather unusual ways of

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Speaker 12: doing that, Like he throws a dinner party for the suspects,

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Speaker 12: and he puts a little bit of truth serum into

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Speaker 12: one of the dishes, and that turns out to be

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Speaker 12: rather amusing and as in a party, probably quite unlike

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Speaker 12: anything that you or I have ever been to, and

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Speaker 12: off they kind of go. He also kind of uses

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Speaker 12: a polygraph test and things and to try and get

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Speaker 12: to the bottom of you know, who this person is

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Speaker 12: and what kind of unfolds here is sort of a

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Speaker 12: lot of personal as well as professional indiscretion. So he's

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Speaker 12: his wife is played by Kate Glenchet. She too is

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Speaker 12: a spy. And the reason it's called black Bag is

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Speaker 12: because you know, when they might say to each other, Hey, darling,

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Speaker 12: what are you up to today, She'll go, I'm heading

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Speaker 12: out of the country. I'll be back tomorrow, and he

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Speaker 12: knows where you're going. It's like black bag. You know,

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Speaker 12: it's in the black bag. It's something I can't tell

471
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Speaker 12: you about. It's you know, confidential. So it's also very

472
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Speaker 12: much a relationship drama as much as it is a

473
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Speaker 12: spy drama as well. Look, it's really well put together.

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Speaker 12: The tension is very contained. As I said, it's not

475
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Speaker 12: a fun action film. It's quite restrained and mature in

476
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Speaker 12: the way they approach this, and it's got that great script,

477
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Speaker 12: very cold characters as well. But look, it's it's a

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Speaker 12: lot of fun. It's kind of a bit more like

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Speaker 12: a more intelligent mister and Missus Smith here.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a good way of putting it. Okay, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I mean I enjoyed Missus and Missus Smith. It was

482
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Speaker 3: kind of, you know, a bit of a dumb popcorn blockbuster.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, this definitely sounds like a bit of mediing.

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Speaker 3: So this is Black Bag. It's showing in cinemas at

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Speaker 3: the moment. Kate Lunchet and Michael Fassbender and directed by

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Speaker 3: Steven Soderberg. So, as you say, an all star cast

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Speaker 3: and production team. Next up, let's have a listen to

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Speaker 3: the trailer for Hard Truths.

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Speaker 13: Look at you fix your face with the public handling

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Speaker 13: people's food.

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Speaker 4: People can't stand them, cheerful grilling people.

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Speaker 3: I can he laughing already?

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Speaker 4: Oh, Mike Ley.

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Speaker 12: Look, he's the ruler and director behind this film. He's

495
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Speaker 12: one of the most British directors of our time. He's

496
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Speaker 12: spent his career portraying ordinary people in their lives in

497
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Speaker 12: extraordinary ways. You'll know his films films such as Secret

498
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Speaker 12: and Lies, Very Drake and Have to Go Lucky, and

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Speaker 12: at the age of eighty two, he is back with

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Speaker 12: a new film called Hard Truths. I actually spoke to

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Speaker 12: him last week on the Sunday Seasion and it's really

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Speaker 12: worth having a listen because he has remained a staunchly

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Speaker 12: independent filmmaker throughout his career and he has some quite

504
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Speaker 12: interesting opinions on Hollywood and suitin actors because he's got

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Speaker 12: a very particular way of working. He brings in an

506
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Speaker 12: actor and then they for months. They will rehearse and

507
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Speaker 12: improvise and really get to the bottom of these characters

508
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Speaker 12: and who they are and how they know their lives,

509
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Speaker 12: which is why he's able to present you with such complex, interesting,

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Speaker 12: you know, characters in his films. He is reunited here

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Speaker 12: with Jean Baptist Maryanne, and she was in Secrets and Lives,

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Speaker 12: I Think with him, and she plays Pansy, who was

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Speaker 12: a deeply unhappy woman. She is suppressed, she doesn't like

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Speaker 12: leaving her house. She just complained endlessly about everything and

515
00:28:21,373 --> 00:28:25,453
Speaker 12: gets into some hilarious arguments with strangers. But underneath it all,

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Speaker 12: she's very lonely and she's unwell and she's dealing with,

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Speaker 12: you know, the consequences of the way she was brought

518
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Speaker 12: up and the way her mother treated her and things.

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Speaker 12: And this is contrasted to her sister who manages to

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Speaker 12: find the joy in life and things. And it gets

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Speaker 12: to a point where the sisters, you know, is trying

522
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Speaker 12: to help Pansy, help Pansy out. So it's kind of

523
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Speaker 12: a moment where she just reflects on her life and

524
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Speaker 12: how she's living her life and happiness and things. Look,

525
00:28:53,933 --> 00:28:58,213
Speaker 12: it's awkward and comfortable, but you know, Mike Lee isn't

526
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Speaker 12: going to just present you with characters that you sit

527
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Speaker 12: there and kind of giggle along with and life along

528
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Speaker 12: with it is challenging. This film also got beautiful moments

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Speaker 12: of humor and ultimately sort of quite poignant moving end

530
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Speaker 12: to it as well. I just think if we might

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Speaker 12: leave film as we're taking a look at so hearing

532
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Speaker 12: us back in, he's not going to stop, He's going

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Speaker 12: to keep up.

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Speaker 3: Yeah cool, Okay, So that's hard truth that showing in

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Speaker 3: cinemas now. So as black Bag. Black Bag was Francisca's

536
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Speaker 3: first pick there, and we'll put both of those films

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Speaker 3: and all the details for them up on the news

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Speaker 3: talks he'd website. Thank you, Francisca catching in next week

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Speaker 3: Francisca red Can our film reviewer coming up after ten o'clock.

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Speaker 3: If you're just feeling kind of lazy this weekend, yeah,

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Speaker 3: you just you think, yeah, it would be nice to

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Speaker 3: go to the movies. It would also just be nice

543
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Speaker 3: to sit on the couch and just stay in your jarmis.

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Speaker 3: We've got a couple of options for you in our

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Speaker 3: screen Time segment for TV shows to watch your stream

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Speaker 3: at home, including our screen Time Experts review of the

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Speaker 3: new season of F one Drive to Survive. I think

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Speaker 3: of all of the different, you know, kind of shows

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Speaker 3: where they've given you the behind the scenes, back room

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Speaker 3: look at a sport, and there have been so many

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Speaker 3: of them now right ones for golf, for tennis, Tour

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Speaker 3: de France, Chain Unchained, and if One Drive to Survive.

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Speaker 3: I think if One Drive to Survive has probably been

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Speaker 3: the best. I also think it's probably been the most popular.

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Speaker 3: It's kind of it kind of defined that whole genre, right,

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Speaker 3: but it's a way that so many of us now

557
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Speaker 3: interact with sports and kind of really leans into speed

558
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Speaker 3: treating sports first and foremost it's entertainment, don't you think anyway,

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Speaker 3: we'll get to our screen time experts. Thoughts on the

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Speaker 3: new season of IF One Drive to Survive after ten

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Speaker 3: looking forward to the role that Liam Lawson plays in that.

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Speaker 3: I know he only raced a few races last season,

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Speaker 3: but the whole Willy or won't he be signed to

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Speaker 3: part of the season, So looking forward to that right now.

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Speaker 3: heaps of texts and a lot of emails as well. Actually,

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Speaker 3: usually on Saturday mornings, you know, we don't dive too

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Speaker 3: deep into geopolitics. Sometimes it's nice to have a little

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Speaker 3: bit of a break. But I just I'm sure I

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Speaker 3: am kind of like you and that I just feel

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Speaker 3: like so much is changing in the world at the moment,

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Speaker 3: kind of as we speak, you know, and getting up

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Speaker 3: and seeing the speech from Mark Carney, the new Canadian

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Speaker 3: Prime Minister, in which he said, you know, I pledge

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Speaker 3: that Canada will never become part of the US. Seriously,

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Speaker 3: It's like, wow, this is yep, this is a different

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Speaker 3: time in which we're living. Jack, It's a very sad

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Speaker 3: state of affairs between the US and Canada. Just imagine

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Speaker 3: for a moment if New Zealand was treated like this

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Speaker 3: from Australia. It just seems so wrong, says Lee. Kevin

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Speaker 3: says Jack, I think the worst thing I've heard Trump

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Speaker 3: say about the whole tariffs is has suggested that Canada

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Speaker 3: could seriously become the fifty first state. He wants Greenland

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Speaker 3: as well, he wants the Panama Canal. Does he want

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Speaker 3: to all the world by using threats against others? Britain

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Speaker 3: surely won't let them take Canada, says Kevin. Well, Actually,

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Speaker 3: I think if Britain's done anything so far, it's kind

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Speaker 3: not sure that they really could. This is this is

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Speaker 3: my point this morning. I think heaps of countries need

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Speaker 3: to coordinate not necessarily aggressively towards the US. But I

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Speaker 3: don't think that the way to stand up to a

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Speaker 14: Oh, it's a great way, and it certainly takes us

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Speaker 14: away from the gam atmosphere out there, doesn't it.

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Speaker 3: Look we do a variety on Saturday mornings, you know,

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Speaker 3: there's nothing wrong with that.

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Speaker 14: Well, when I heard your last and try about you know,

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Speaker 14: and if you don't feel like going to the movies,

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Speaker 14: you know, just lie around on the couch, I thought, Oh,

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Speaker 14: he's going to mention eating tart.

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Speaker 3: Oh you can do that.

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Speaker 14: Yes, certainly, I think the guys are just coming into

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Speaker 14: season and look, soon we will be drowning in them.

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Speaker 14: But at the moment they still feel like a bit

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Speaker 3: Yes, there's a there's a there's a tree at our

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Speaker 14: Will it be the little featour and condensed milk tarts?

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Speaker 14: And what could be a better little combination? You know

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Speaker 14: those little sort of coconut tarts that you can sometimes

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Speaker 14: get it quite crappy bakeries, to.

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Speaker 4: Be honest, but I love you.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 12: You've got a short crass.

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Speaker 14: Pastry around them, lovely coconuty filling, and sometimes they cherry

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Speaker 14: on top. Well, instead, I've taken that cherry out of there,

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Speaker 14: that awful glass stayed cheer that dontly belongs, and a

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Speaker 14: fruitcake and I put a beautiful, big slice of fee

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Speaker 14: Joela in there and bakes them and it's just beautiful.

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Speaker 14: So look, you need short crust pastry, So a couple

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Speaker 14: of sheets of that roll that's a little bit thinner

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Speaker 14: than it comes. I always tend to do that with

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Speaker 14: those pre rolled sheets. Use a cookie cutter and cut

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Speaker 14: some cut the pastry into circles to fit the holes

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Speaker 14: and come up the sides of a sort of twelve

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Speaker 14: whole muffinton. We're going to make twelve with these tarts.

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Speaker 14: You bet we would be surprised how big that circle

647
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Speaker 14: needs to be to sort of completely line the muffin.

648
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Speaker 14: And if you don't complete your line, it's some of

649
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Speaker 14: that condensed not's going to caramelize and they're going to

650
00:34:45,053 --> 00:34:47,653
Speaker 14: stick to the tin. Trust me, it has happened to me.

651
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Speaker 14: We make the filling really easy, and a bowl with

652
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Speaker 14: together a quarter of a cup of brown sugar, a

653
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Speaker 14: little bit more if you want't a bit sweeter, but

654
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Speaker 14: I always find coconut pretty sweet. Half a cup of

655
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Speaker 14: milk and half a cup of sweetened condensed milk from

656
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Speaker 14: the can, one and a half teaspoons of vanilla extra,

657
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Speaker 14: and sixty grams of melted butter wisk all that sort

658
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Speaker 14: of together so it's nice and smooth, and then stir

659
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Speaker 14: in two and a half cups of dessicated coconuts. Feels

660
00:35:16,253 --> 00:35:18,853
Speaker 14: like a lot, but it's just the right amount. Two

661
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Speaker 14: tablespoons of plain flour and one teaspoon of baking powder

662
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Speaker 14: that's just going to give us a little bit of

663
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Speaker 14: a rise. Spoon that into your pastry fillings. Top each

664
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Speaker 14: with a big slice of fee jour. You can either

665
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Speaker 14: cut them in half and scoop them out really well

666
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Speaker 14: with a sort of a sharp teaspoon, or you can

667
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Speaker 14: peel them if you like, but make sure that that

668
00:35:38,813 --> 00:35:41,653
Speaker 14: slices you're going to lose the ends. You're going to

669
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Speaker 14: eat those. It's probably about a send to meter sick.

670
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Speaker 14: Maybe you sent to meat and a half. Push that

671
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Speaker 14: into the coconut filling and bake them in your oven

672
00:35:48,933 --> 00:35:52,533
Speaker 14: for twenty to thirty minutes. They'll be gold and brown,

673
00:35:52,773 --> 00:35:55,133
Speaker 14: they'll be cooked that pastry. You'll be crisped and buttery.

674
00:35:56,133 --> 00:35:58,093
Speaker 14: Lead them to call for about ten minutes, you know,

675
00:35:58,173 --> 00:36:00,533
Speaker 14: and then pop them out of their little muffin tins.

676
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Speaker 14: And they're so good, Jack, They're absolutely amazing.

677
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Speaker 3: Well, you never need to convince me when it comes

678
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Speaker 3: to enjoying a recipe that involves sweet and condensed milk.

679
00:36:12,613 --> 00:36:15,813
Speaker 3: I'm a simple to Nikki, you know that, But it does.

680
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Speaker 3: It sounds amazing.

681
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Speaker 14: Smoke so much, and I mean, what are you going

682
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Speaker 14: to do with the other with the other half half

683
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Speaker 14: half a can that you're going to.

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Speaker 3: Shure your come with a solution, maybe a Vietnamese coffee. Ah,

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Speaker 3: there you go where shock is a it's cultured. It's cultured.

686
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Speaker 3: You know, there's nothing wrong with that. Yeah, Hey, thank

687
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Speaker 3: you so much. Yeah, that recipe sounds absolutely fantastic and

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Speaker 3: News Talks EDB we are going to look at the

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Speaker 3: latest development with the Apple Intelligence fiasco. Basically, last year

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Speaker 3: our text Bert Plus. Of course, right after the ten

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Speaker 3: o'clock news. Pat Monahan, the lead singer of Train, the

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Speaker 6: It'd be.

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Speaker 10: Now that she's back in the a must be drops

737
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Speaker 10: Jupiter in her head?

738
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Speaker 4: Tell me did you sell cross?

739
00:39:38,253 --> 00:39:40,253
Speaker 13: Did you make it through the milky Way?

740
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Speaker 15: See the lads are fading?

741
00:39:43,413 --> 00:39:47,653
Speaker 1: The man in his own radar, tell me did you.

742
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Speaker 5: Pump on students?

743
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Speaker 7: One man of prominence?

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Speaker 10: Come and then you miss me while you're looking for

745
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Speaker 10: yourself out there morn.

746
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Speaker 3: In a good morning if you're just turning on the radio,

747
00:40:02,173 --> 00:40:04,773
Speaker 3: jec Tae with you through the midday. That of course

748
00:40:04,773 --> 00:40:06,293
Speaker 3: has drops of Jupiter by Train.

749
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Speaker 4: Now.

750
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Speaker 3: I Train just have a knack for writing incredibly catchy songs.

751
00:40:11,693 --> 00:40:15,013
Speaker 3: It's a kind of signature blend of rock and pop

752
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Speaker 3: and chart topping hits that you probably know every single

753
00:40:18,573 --> 00:40:21,333
Speaker 3: word too. And great news. Trainer coming to New Zealand

754
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Speaker 3: later this year, trained from Pat Monahan has been the

755
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Speaker 3: man behind the mic since way back in nineteen ninety three,

756
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Speaker 3: and it's with us this morning, count of good morning,

757
00:40:30,853 --> 00:40:34,213
Speaker 3: how are you? I'm very well, thank you. I wanted

758
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Speaker 3: to begin without getting too nostalgic and without making you

759
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Speaker 3: feel too old, to ask you to cast your mind

760
00:40:42,333 --> 00:40:44,773
Speaker 3: back a little bit. You have just celebrated the thirtieth

761
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Speaker 3: anniversary of Train, So are you able to distill the magic?

762
00:40:49,213 --> 00:40:53,973
Speaker 3: What is it about Train and writing and performing music

763
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Speaker 3: that has allowed you to endure?

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Speaker 16: You know, I think it's uh, it's my passion to

765
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Speaker 16: be competitive and also my open mind this to really

766
00:41:07,733 --> 00:41:10,093
Speaker 16: love new music all the time. And there was a

767
00:41:10,213 --> 00:41:14,773
Speaker 16: time when we started to Train, and I was very

768
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Speaker 16: critical of other music because I was so competitive I

769
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Speaker 16: and it was also during a time of like shelf space,

770
00:41:21,173 --> 00:41:25,253
Speaker 16: where we were selling CDs and if somebody was in

771
00:41:25,773 --> 00:41:28,013
Speaker 16: that space, you didn't get that space.

772
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Speaker 7: And so that was a different time.

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Speaker 16: But now it's much more of a community of there's

774
00:41:33,893 --> 00:41:36,373
Speaker 16: so much to love. Why not just love through it

775
00:41:36,573 --> 00:41:38,773
Speaker 16: and learn from it. And I think that that's what

776
00:41:38,933 --> 00:41:41,813
Speaker 16: I continue to do, and it's helped me. Like I

777
00:41:41,893 --> 00:41:44,453
Speaker 16: listened to a lot of hip hop, and you know,

778
00:41:44,533 --> 00:41:47,373
Speaker 16: I can't I can't write those songs, but I can

779
00:41:47,453 --> 00:41:50,613
Speaker 16: definitely enjoy them. And there's always great new artists from

780
00:41:50,613 --> 00:41:52,453
Speaker 16: all over the world that I like to try to

781
00:41:52,453 --> 00:41:55,213
Speaker 16: connect with. How do you find new music?

782
00:41:57,933 --> 00:41:58,733
Speaker 4: You know, back in the.

783
00:41:58,853 --> 00:42:03,373
Speaker 16: Day, people would make playlists, and now Spotify has a

784
00:42:03,493 --> 00:42:07,373
Speaker 16: lot of playlists, so they've learned from old ski techniques

785
00:42:07,413 --> 00:42:10,653
Speaker 16: of how to get people engage. And so there are

786
00:42:10,733 --> 00:42:14,813
Speaker 16: times where I'll find something like there's a Montreal band

787
00:42:16,133 --> 00:42:19,253
Speaker 16: that I love that I found and then played it

788
00:42:19,293 --> 00:42:21,333
Speaker 16: for my sixteen year old daughter and she's like, oh, yeah,

789
00:42:21,333 --> 00:42:25,693
Speaker 16: I know that band. And sometimes it comes from my kids.

790
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Speaker 16: I have a thirteen year old son who's listening to

791
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Speaker 16: you know, basically classic heavy metal right now, and then

792
00:42:33,653 --> 00:42:36,133
Speaker 16: my daughter's listen to everything new. So I just keep

793
00:42:36,173 --> 00:42:39,453
Speaker 16: having kids to turn me onto new music. So maybe

794
00:42:39,493 --> 00:42:44,253
Speaker 16: when i'm a great grandfather, my grandchildren will teach me more.

795
00:42:44,413 --> 00:42:47,373
Speaker 3: Do they ever shame you? Do they ever say, come on, dad,

796
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Speaker 3: what do you mean? You don't know this band dot

797
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Speaker 3: dot No it is.

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Speaker 16: It's pretty funny, like they do love what I do,

799
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Speaker 16: but it wouldn't be their top list, you know, it's

800
00:43:00,373 --> 00:43:04,933
Speaker 16: not their go to music, but they definitely respect what

801
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Speaker 16: I've done.

802
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Speaker 3: I remember when I was a teenager saying to my dad, Oh,

803
00:43:09,173 --> 00:43:10,693
Speaker 3: you've got to listen to this band. You've got to

804
00:43:10,773 --> 00:43:12,533
Speaker 3: listen to this band, and he sort of never gave

805
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Speaker 3: me the time of day. And then about two years

806
00:43:14,813 --> 00:43:16,973
Speaker 3: later he came back to me and he said, I've

807
00:43:17,053 --> 00:43:19,413
Speaker 3: discovered this really good band who I think you might like,

808
00:43:19,733 --> 00:43:22,653
Speaker 3: The Cold cold Play. And I was like, well, I

809
00:43:22,773 --> 00:43:25,253
Speaker 3: was like, Dad, That's what I told you two years ago.

810
00:43:25,333 --> 00:43:27,493
Speaker 3: But he didn't, you know, he was never open minded

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Speaker 3: enough like you.

812
00:43:28,653 --> 00:43:31,853
Speaker 7: To supposed to be bringing him anything. I get it.

813
00:43:32,773 --> 00:43:35,573
Speaker 16: Yeah, Well I just got a text right when we

814
00:43:35,653 --> 00:43:40,053
Speaker 16: started this Zoom that Drops of Jupiter has just hit

815
00:43:40,173 --> 00:43:41,453
Speaker 16: one billion streams.

816
00:43:42,013 --> 00:43:42,333
Speaker 17: Wow.

817
00:43:42,653 --> 00:43:46,333
Speaker 16: So those are also pretty fun little things that keep

818
00:43:46,413 --> 00:43:48,493
Speaker 16: me excited about staying musical.

819
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Speaker 3: Congratulations.

820
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Speaker 7: Yeah, it's a pretty cool thing.

821
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Speaker 16: That's Soul Sister was a billion a few years ago,

822
00:43:56,013 --> 00:43:59,693
Speaker 16: and this is the second one for Train and it's

823
00:43:59,933 --> 00:44:00,573
Speaker 16: pretty exciting.

824
00:44:00,693 --> 00:44:03,933
Speaker 3: I actually checked soul sister's numbers right before dialing into

825
00:44:04,013 --> 00:44:08,813
Speaker 3: you one billion, seven hundred sixty one million, three hundred

826
00:44:08,813 --> 00:44:11,453
Speaker 3: and sixty thousand, three hundred and sixty six.

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00:44:12,533 --> 00:44:14,533
Speaker 7: Wow, you got you got to.

828
00:44:14,493 --> 00:44:16,373
Speaker 16: Get busy when we get off this dooom so we

829
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Speaker 16: can get to two billion.

830
00:44:17,413 --> 00:44:20,933
Speaker 3: I guess Okay, So who text you?

831
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Speaker 7: My manager? He just texted me.

832
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Speaker 3: Is there anything that happens to Spotify? You know, do

833
00:44:27,573 --> 00:44:29,573
Speaker 3: they stream the ceiling or something?

834
00:44:29,853 --> 00:44:36,813
Speaker 16: They send an embarrassingly large plaque that has a you know,

835
00:44:37,013 --> 00:44:40,613
Speaker 16: a pretend diamond in in the middle of it, and uh,

836
00:44:41,333 --> 00:44:45,413
Speaker 16: I've never hung one, but you know, maybe maybe there's, uh,

837
00:44:45,533 --> 00:44:47,333
Speaker 16: there's a place for it somewhere at some point.

838
00:44:47,933 --> 00:44:50,893
Speaker 3: So do you feel then that you no longer need

839
00:44:51,053 --> 00:44:54,213
Speaker 3: to be competitive? I mean, those numbers are I don't.

840
00:44:54,333 --> 00:44:56,133
Speaker 16: I will never feel that way. Well, what is that

841
00:44:56,213 --> 00:44:59,413
Speaker 16: I'm even you know, competitive with workouts? Like you know,

842
00:44:59,813 --> 00:45:02,213
Speaker 16: I don't want to work out ever, I never want

843
00:45:02,253 --> 00:45:04,213
Speaker 16: to do it, but when I'm in it, I want

844
00:45:04,253 --> 00:45:06,253
Speaker 16: to try to do it the best I can say,

845
00:45:06,453 --> 00:45:08,173
Speaker 16: get something out of it. And it's the same way

846
00:45:08,173 --> 00:45:11,293
Speaker 16: with music, Like I've been working on a Broadway musical

847
00:45:11,373 --> 00:45:16,373
Speaker 16: for five years and I've learned a little bit of

848
00:45:16,533 --> 00:45:21,493
Speaker 16: language about broadways. So when someone says that's incredible, that

849
00:45:21,693 --> 00:45:25,893
Speaker 16: means rewrite that. And I'm learning as I go that

850
00:45:26,573 --> 00:45:29,933
Speaker 16: you can't quit. You have to just keep working through it.

851
00:45:30,213 --> 00:45:33,413
Speaker 16: And that's not something that I want to learn, but

852
00:45:33,533 --> 00:45:34,653
Speaker 16: it's probably good for me.

853
00:45:35,253 --> 00:45:36,453
Speaker 7: Yeah, that's that's interesting.

854
00:45:36,533 --> 00:45:39,453
Speaker 3: So people don't give you honest feedback necessarily, or it's

855
00:45:39,533 --> 00:45:40,573
Speaker 3: kind of it's veiled.

856
00:45:41,533 --> 00:45:42,133
Speaker 7: It's veiled.

857
00:45:42,333 --> 00:45:45,933
Speaker 16: Yeah, they want you to be encouraged, but then they

858
00:45:46,013 --> 00:45:49,693
Speaker 16: want you to rewrite it. Yeah right, you're so close

859
00:45:49,853 --> 00:45:51,093
Speaker 16: but so far away.

860
00:45:51,253 --> 00:45:55,213
Speaker 3: Yeah, Okay, it's not they're not saying, oh, that's that's unique,

861
00:45:55,853 --> 00:45:57,933
Speaker 3: or yeah, yeah that's interesting.

862
00:45:58,293 --> 00:46:00,653
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, that's interesting.

863
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Speaker 18: Yeah is it?

864
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Speaker 3: Do you find yourself kind of humbled when you're in

865
00:46:08,013 --> 00:46:10,133
Speaker 3: that environment when you're writing and you're getting that kind

866
00:46:10,173 --> 00:46:13,133
Speaker 3: of feedback given you could always say, hey, you know what,

867
00:46:13,933 --> 00:46:17,413
Speaker 3: I've just ticked over a million streams for Drops of Jupiter.

868
00:46:17,893 --> 00:46:20,293
Speaker 3: I'm almost a two million for Hayesul System. Maybe I

869
00:46:20,373 --> 00:46:21,813
Speaker 3: do actually know how to write a song.

870
00:46:23,013 --> 00:46:25,133
Speaker 7: You know, I don't really need humbled.

871
00:46:25,533 --> 00:46:28,853
Speaker 16: I don't feel like I've ever had a problem with humility.

872
00:46:29,653 --> 00:46:33,933
Speaker 16: I come from a small town in Pennsylvania that you know,

873
00:46:34,053 --> 00:46:35,693
Speaker 16: there was no room for that on the last of

874
00:46:35,813 --> 00:46:38,093
Speaker 16: seven kids, so none of us were able to be

875
00:46:38,333 --> 00:46:42,773
Speaker 16: too sure of ourselves. But I do need ten minutes,

876
00:46:43,493 --> 00:46:47,173
Speaker 16: Like I just saw on Instagram, if somebody really pisses

877
00:46:47,293 --> 00:46:50,453
Speaker 16: you off, take ten minutes before you respond.

878
00:46:50,773 --> 00:46:52,533
Speaker 7: And that's what I'll do. I'll take a walk and

879
00:46:52,573 --> 00:46:54,093
Speaker 7: then I'll come back and get to work.

880
00:46:54,293 --> 00:46:57,093
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's very wise. So can you tell us about

881
00:46:57,133 --> 00:46:58,253
Speaker 3: the musical at all?

882
00:46:58,653 --> 00:46:59,413
Speaker 7: And the sure?

883
00:46:59,493 --> 00:47:04,053
Speaker 16: Yeah, it was a movie with Mark Grofflo called Begin

884
00:47:04,173 --> 00:47:09,933
Speaker 16: Again John Carney, the same writer as like Once and

885
00:47:10,373 --> 00:47:14,173
Speaker 16: Sing Town, and so this is They asked me to

886
00:47:14,773 --> 00:47:17,573
Speaker 16: write all the music for it. I think there's one

887
00:47:17,973 --> 00:47:20,293
Speaker 16: or two pieces of music from the movie that will

888
00:47:20,813 --> 00:47:24,733
Speaker 16: stay and everything else I've written with my two bandmates.

889
00:47:24,933 --> 00:47:28,093
Speaker 3: How different is it writing writing for that, writing for

890
00:47:28,173 --> 00:47:30,093
Speaker 3: Broadway versus writing for train right?

891
00:47:30,453 --> 00:47:31,253
Speaker 7: Incredibly different.

892
00:47:31,293 --> 00:47:34,613
Speaker 16: It'd be like you saying, will you write a song

893
00:47:34,773 --> 00:47:39,933
Speaker 16: for me to sing to my significant other? But here's

894
00:47:39,973 --> 00:47:43,453
Speaker 16: what I want them to know, and then then I

895
00:47:43,613 --> 00:47:44,813
Speaker 16: write the song based.

896
00:47:44,573 --> 00:47:46,293
Speaker 7: On that, which is much.

897
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Speaker 16: It seems like it would be easier because it's a

898
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Speaker 16: direct assignment, but it's not.

899
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Speaker 7: It's pretty difficult.

900
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Speaker 3: So if you are competitive when it comes to music

901
00:47:57,013 --> 00:48:00,613
Speaker 3: and it comes to comes to writing and streams and success,

902
00:48:01,653 --> 00:48:03,693
Speaker 3: what's Pat Monahan like at boll game night.

903
00:48:04,653 --> 00:48:10,093
Speaker 7: Well, I'd rather be playing golf than anything. So, but

904
00:48:10,253 --> 00:48:13,293
Speaker 7: I but I you know what I do? Play golf

905
00:48:13,373 --> 00:48:15,053
Speaker 7: in cards? Have you ever heard of cards?

906
00:48:15,053 --> 00:48:15,133
Speaker 2: Now?

907
00:48:15,413 --> 00:48:16,973
Speaker 7: Golf? It's real fun.

908
00:48:17,053 --> 00:48:20,773
Speaker 16: It goes fast, You're playing nine holes and you should

909
00:48:20,853 --> 00:48:22,773
Speaker 16: check it out on the internet.

910
00:48:22,893 --> 00:48:24,093
Speaker 7: It's a it's a fun little game.

911
00:48:24,213 --> 00:48:25,733
Speaker 3: Okay, Yeah that sounds.

912
00:48:25,733 --> 00:48:28,133
Speaker 16: I have a glass of wine and we're playing golf,

913
00:48:28,213 --> 00:48:32,573
Speaker 16: either on the real course or or at a card table,

914
00:48:32,653 --> 00:48:33,733
Speaker 16: then I'll be pretty happy.

915
00:48:34,093 --> 00:48:36,693
Speaker 3: You're listening to Jack Tame on news talk ZB. I

916
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Speaker 3: am speaking to Pat Monahan, founder and lead singer of Train,

917
00:48:42,013 --> 00:48:46,173
Speaker 3: ahead of their New Zealand performances. Obviously, being competitive has

918
00:48:46,573 --> 00:48:49,453
Speaker 3: has paid off when it comes to music, because I

919
00:48:49,493 --> 00:48:52,573
Speaker 3: mean Trying has a just ridiculous success over the last

920
00:48:52,733 --> 00:48:59,053
Speaker 3: few decades. All of the album's streams, singles, success awards,

921
00:48:59,093 --> 00:49:03,373
Speaker 3: et cetera. Do you know when you have an absolute

922
00:49:03,573 --> 00:49:06,093
Speaker 3: top tier hit? Do you know when you're writing you're

923
00:49:06,093 --> 00:49:07,013
Speaker 3: going through the process.

924
00:49:07,173 --> 00:49:10,213
Speaker 16: Yeah, So I've never known everything I think will be

925
00:49:10,293 --> 00:49:13,773
Speaker 16: a hit is awful and no one cares about it.

926
00:49:13,893 --> 00:49:18,493
Speaker 16: And then songs like Drops Jupiter that was very strange

927
00:49:18,653 --> 00:49:21,333
Speaker 16: that people responded to it, and then a yukulele and

928
00:49:21,413 --> 00:49:25,653
Speaker 16: then a song about you know, fifty ways of say goodbye,

929
00:49:25,813 --> 00:49:27,653
Speaker 16: you know, like you're breaking up with your girlfriend, so

930
00:49:27,733 --> 00:49:30,133
Speaker 16: you tell your friend she died. Like all the weird

931
00:49:30,253 --> 00:49:33,093
Speaker 16: ones somehow make an impression on the World's.

932
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Speaker 3: Funny, so good for anyone who doesn't know the story?

933
00:49:36,693 --> 00:49:39,373
Speaker 3: Do you mind telling us? When you're writing Hay Soul's Sister,

934
00:49:39,453 --> 00:49:41,613
Speaker 3: how you you? You were kind of there but not

935
00:49:41,813 --> 00:49:43,773
Speaker 3: quite And then what pushed it over the line and

936
00:49:43,853 --> 00:49:45,053
Speaker 3: made it the year worm that it is?

937
00:49:45,813 --> 00:49:46,013
Speaker 7: Yeah.

938
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Speaker 16: I wrote with a couple of guys from Norway in

939
00:49:49,493 --> 00:49:53,573
Speaker 16: New York City. We had already written a song that day.

940
00:49:54,013 --> 00:49:56,173
Speaker 16: I had already written a song with someone else called

941
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Speaker 16: if It's Love. And then I went down to another

942
00:49:58,093 --> 00:50:01,173
Speaker 16: studio in New York and we were writing Hey Soul's

943
00:50:01,213 --> 00:50:03,973
Speaker 16: Sister and on guitar, and it was fine, and all

944
00:50:04,013 --> 00:50:06,813
Speaker 16: the vocal parts were done. But then listening back to it,

945
00:50:06,893 --> 00:50:10,653
Speaker 16: it was like, I mean, it's it's fine. And then

946
00:50:10,733 --> 00:50:12,813
Speaker 16: one of the guys picked up a ukulelean to Stary

947
00:50:13,053 --> 00:50:16,493
Speaker 16: bring and I was like, whoa, I think maybe we

948
00:50:16,613 --> 00:50:20,493
Speaker 16: just got it. Yeah, ukulele can change the atmosphere within

949
00:50:20,533 --> 00:50:21,373
Speaker 16: a room pretty quick.

950
00:50:21,653 --> 00:50:26,213
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's funny. It's just it's like ninety five percent

951
00:50:26,293 --> 00:50:28,773
Speaker 3: of the ingredients are there and it just takes one

952
00:50:28,813 --> 00:50:30,573
Speaker 3: little thing to push it over the edge. And they can.

953
00:50:30,693 --> 00:50:33,733
Speaker 3: They can be the little thing. Yeah, yeah, that's right now.

954
00:50:33,773 --> 00:50:36,053
Speaker 3: I know you've been touring a fee a bit lately.

955
00:50:36,333 --> 00:50:38,773
Speaker 3: You've had it very been very busy of the last

956
00:50:38,773 --> 00:50:41,493
Speaker 3: twelve months or so. Throughout the UIs tell us about

957
00:50:41,493 --> 00:50:44,213
Speaker 3: the New Zealand show. I know so many people here

958
00:50:44,373 --> 00:50:46,533
Speaker 3: are just delighted that you're going to be back down under.

959
00:50:47,173 --> 00:50:49,453
Speaker 16: Yeah, I'm very excited. I think it's been too many

960
00:50:49,533 --> 00:50:53,693
Speaker 16: years that we haven't been in Auckland. And my wife

961
00:50:53,773 --> 00:50:57,253
Speaker 16: and her family drank so much New Zealand Sauvignon Blanc

962
00:50:57,373 --> 00:51:01,053
Speaker 16: that they said you better go and bring a bunch back,

963
00:51:01,293 --> 00:51:04,293
Speaker 16: and so like Kim Crawford and Cloudy Bay, and I

964
00:51:04,373 --> 00:51:06,293
Speaker 16: want to find out like some of the ones we

965
00:51:06,573 --> 00:51:10,333
Speaker 16: can't get here, but New Zealand cid blanc is always

966
00:51:10,933 --> 00:51:14,653
Speaker 16: very refreshing and I don't know if there's alcohol in it.

967
00:51:15,053 --> 00:51:18,773
Speaker 16: I've never never found that out, but I'm pretty sure

968
00:51:18,813 --> 00:51:22,013
Speaker 16: there is. And you know, the people of New Zealand

969
00:51:22,053 --> 00:51:25,693
Speaker 16: are just lovely. I have many friends that are Australian

970
00:51:25,773 --> 00:51:28,893
Speaker 16: and from New Zealand that I really cherish.

971
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Speaker 3: Well, we're delighted that you're going to be here. We're

972
00:51:31,413 --> 00:51:33,653
Speaker 3: going to have all the dates on our website and

973
00:51:34,413 --> 00:51:36,413
Speaker 3: all the very best pat and make sure you carve

974
00:51:36,453 --> 00:51:38,333
Speaker 3: out a couple of days so perhaps you can make

975
00:51:38,373 --> 00:51:41,533
Speaker 3: it down to Marlborough and New Zealand and enjoy a

976
00:51:41,613 --> 00:51:44,973
Speaker 3: couple of bottles us there. I would love that fantastic train.

977
00:51:45,053 --> 00:51:46,853
Speaker 3: They're going to be in New Zealand playing Aucklands Town

978
00:51:46,893 --> 00:51:49,293
Speaker 3: Hall on May twenty eighth. You can get your tickets

979
00:51:49,293 --> 00:51:51,293
Speaker 3: through ticket Master or of course you can search for

980
00:51:51,373 --> 00:51:55,093
Speaker 3: train on the Auckland Live website. Now coming up before

981
00:51:55,093 --> 00:51:59,013
Speaker 3: eleven o'clock on News Talks, he'd be the Pope hopefully

982
00:51:59,453 --> 00:52:01,773
Speaker 3: is recovering, but it has been pretty touch and go

983
00:52:01,893 --> 00:52:03,413
Speaker 3: to say the least over the last couple of weeks,

984
00:52:03,413 --> 00:52:07,013
Speaker 3: at least if the official reports are to be believed. Pneumonia,

985
00:52:07,093 --> 00:52:11,333
Speaker 3: which is something which afflicts thousands of people every year

986
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Speaker 3: and can be incredibly serious.

987
00:52:13,013 --> 00:52:13,733
Speaker 4: So before we eleven.

988
00:52:13,573 --> 00:52:15,333
Speaker 3: O'clock this morning, we're gonna catch up with doctor Brian

989
00:52:15,373 --> 00:52:19,573
Speaker 3: Betty get his cut a one oh one explanation of

990
00:52:19,613 --> 00:52:22,453
Speaker 3: how pneumonia affects people what we can do to prevent

991
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Speaker 3: ourselves from getting pneumonia as well. Next up, though your

992
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Speaker 3: screen time picks for this weekend, including the brand new

993
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Speaker 3: season of F one Drive to Survive. Right now, it's

994
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Speaker 3: twenty past ten you with Jacktame. This is News Talk's EDB.

995
00:52:36,653 --> 00:52:38,453
Speaker 4: Start your weekend off in style.

996
00:52:38,693 --> 00:52:42,213
Speaker 1: Saturday mornings with Jack Tame and Bpure dot co dot

997
00:52:42,253 --> 00:52:45,013
Speaker 1: inset for high quality supplements Newstalks EDB.

998
00:52:45,813 --> 00:52:48,653
Speaker 3: Twenty three minutes past ten on Newstalk's EDB means it's

999
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Speaker 3: screen time time. Our screen time expert is Tara Awards.

1000
00:52:52,453 --> 00:52:54,493
Speaker 3: She's here with her three picks for this week.

1001
00:52:54,653 --> 00:52:56,453
Speaker 13: Hey Tara, good morning.

1002
00:52:56,573 --> 00:52:59,853
Speaker 3: Okay, let's begin with a new show starting streaming on Netflix.

1003
00:52:59,973 --> 00:53:03,693
Speaker 3: It's a legal kind of British drama, tell Us about Adolescens.

1004
00:53:04,693 --> 00:53:06,733
Speaker 19: Yeah, this is a new British drama. Is one of

1005
00:53:06,813 --> 00:53:08,853
Speaker 19: the best things I have seen on TV in a

1006
00:53:08,933 --> 00:53:11,693
Speaker 19: long time, but also also one of the most intense

1007
00:53:12,373 --> 00:53:15,733
Speaker 19: and heartbreaking. This is created and written by the actor

1008
00:53:15,773 --> 00:53:18,693
Speaker 19: Stephen Graham who stars in this as well, and Jack Thorne,

1009
00:53:18,733 --> 00:53:20,533
Speaker 19: who created a show I talked about a couple of

1010
00:53:20,573 --> 00:53:23,733
Speaker 19: weeks ago called Toxic Town. And it's directed by Philip

1011
00:53:23,773 --> 00:53:27,253
Speaker 19: Baranteiney who directed Boiling Points. So there's some real talent

1012
00:53:27,373 --> 00:53:29,973
Speaker 19: behind the show, and it tells the story of a

1013
00:53:30,053 --> 00:53:33,493
Speaker 19: teenager who is accused of murder. Now, the thing to

1014
00:53:33,613 --> 00:53:36,253
Speaker 19: know about the show is that each episode is filmed

1015
00:53:36,333 --> 00:53:40,373
Speaker 19: in a single continuous take, so there are no cutaway shots,

1016
00:53:40,493 --> 00:53:42,973
Speaker 19: there are no breaks in the drama. Everything plays out

1017
00:53:43,053 --> 00:53:46,333
Speaker 19: in real time. So the first episode starts with the

1018
00:53:46,493 --> 00:53:48,573
Speaker 19: arrest at the family house and then we drive to

1019
00:53:48,613 --> 00:53:51,973
Speaker 19: the police station and go through the first hour of

1020
00:53:52,053 --> 00:53:54,493
Speaker 19: the boy being processed and interviewed, and it feels like

1021
00:53:54,573 --> 00:53:57,653
Speaker 19: you're there. It feels like real life, like you're experiencing

1022
00:53:57,733 --> 00:54:00,453
Speaker 19: this with these characters as it's happening, and you just

1023
00:54:00,493 --> 00:54:04,373
Speaker 19: can't look away. Each of the four episodes looks at

1024
00:54:04,413 --> 00:54:07,573
Speaker 19: what is actually going on with this boy, and it's

1025
00:54:07,653 --> 00:54:10,053
Speaker 19: not your typical crime drama because he's a good kid

1026
00:54:10,093 --> 00:54:12,733
Speaker 19: from a good family. But as the series goes on,

1027
00:54:12,973 --> 00:54:16,573
Speaker 19: things like social media and the influence of that dark

1028
00:54:16,773 --> 00:54:20,493
Speaker 19: in cell online culture and technology comes into play. So

1029
00:54:20,853 --> 00:54:25,053
Speaker 19: it's it's incredibly powerful, heartbreaking television. I watched an episode

1030
00:54:25,133 --> 00:54:27,653
Speaker 19: last night and I couldn't sleep afterwards. It just really

1031
00:54:28,053 --> 00:54:32,653
Speaker 19: gets you from the opening moments. It's incredible.

1032
00:54:32,813 --> 00:54:34,453
Speaker 13: But it is a lot as well.

1033
00:54:34,733 --> 00:54:37,453
Speaker 3: Oh man, it's that sounds fantastic. When you say it's

1034
00:54:37,693 --> 00:54:40,613
Speaker 3: like a single take, do you mean like one shot.

1035
00:54:41,373 --> 00:54:45,453
Speaker 19: One shot the whole episode? So five fifty minutes, And

1036
00:54:46,053 --> 00:54:48,933
Speaker 19: apparently they've they've captured a lot of behind the scenes

1037
00:54:48,933 --> 00:54:50,933
Speaker 19: footage which I would love to see to see how

1038
00:54:50,933 --> 00:54:54,013
Speaker 19: they actually because you're you're moving, you're moving through the house,

1039
00:54:54,053 --> 00:54:55,453
Speaker 19: and then you're moving on the road, and then you're

1040
00:54:55,453 --> 00:54:57,973
Speaker 19: moving through the police station, and it switches from the

1041
00:54:58,133 --> 00:55:01,573
Speaker 19: parents to the police officers, to the lawyer to the detective,

1042
00:55:01,893 --> 00:55:04,813
Speaker 19: and you're just continually moving and shifting, and it's just

1043
00:55:05,733 --> 00:55:07,413
Speaker 19: like incredible.

1044
00:55:07,573 --> 00:55:09,733
Speaker 3: That's that's crazy because a few shows have tried it.

1045
00:55:09,813 --> 00:55:12,973
Speaker 3: I think Bear tried it, did it for an episode,

1046
00:55:13,213 --> 00:55:15,573
Speaker 3: or did like something very similar for an episode, which

1047
00:55:15,653 --> 00:55:18,693
Speaker 3: was all The Beard did, which was good. And then

1048
00:55:18,733 --> 00:55:20,573
Speaker 3: there was that movie as well, what was the one,

1049
00:55:20,653 --> 00:55:21,373
Speaker 3: you know, the movie Ye.

1050
00:55:22,173 --> 00:55:25,453
Speaker 19: Boiling Point, which is directed by the guy who has

1051
00:55:25,533 --> 00:55:28,693
Speaker 19: directed this this, which also featured Stephen Graham. So a

1052
00:55:28,773 --> 00:55:31,693
Speaker 19: lot of the people in this show have worked together before,

1053
00:55:31,733 --> 00:55:34,333
Speaker 19: and I think that really is key to make it work.

1054
00:55:34,373 --> 00:55:36,333
Speaker 19: They all really trust each other and trust the process,

1055
00:55:36,333 --> 00:55:37,573
Speaker 19: and it just has paid off.

1056
00:55:37,733 --> 00:55:41,613
Speaker 3: Nineteen seventeen maybe as well. It's just seemed I'm always like, what, why,

1057
00:55:41,893 --> 00:55:42,493
Speaker 3: why are you doing this?

1058
00:55:44,653 --> 00:55:45,773
Speaker 5: Yeah, you don't have to do this?

1059
00:55:46,013 --> 00:55:48,013
Speaker 19: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think I think the director was

1060
00:55:48,053 --> 00:55:50,613
Speaker 19: asking himself the same thing because it's just such a mission.

1061
00:55:50,813 --> 00:55:51,013
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1062
00:55:51,613 --> 00:55:55,053
Speaker 3: Fantastic though, great recommendation. Okay, so that's Adolescence. That's on

1063
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Speaker 3: Netflix now on Apple TV plus. Tell Us about Dope Thief.

1064
00:55:59,293 --> 00:56:01,533
Speaker 19: Yeah, another crime drama. This one has quite a different

1065
00:56:01,693 --> 00:56:04,013
Speaker 19: feel to it though. This is gritty and dark and

1066
00:56:04,693 --> 00:56:08,093
Speaker 19: times really really funny. This is said in Philadelphia and

1067
00:56:08,133 --> 00:56:10,973
Speaker 19: the first episode as directed by Ridley Scott, who also

1068
00:56:11,133 --> 00:56:14,773
Speaker 19: executive produced this. But Dope Thief is about two longtime

1069
00:56:14,853 --> 00:56:18,933
Speaker 19: friends and low level criminals who run the scheme where

1070
00:56:18,973 --> 00:56:21,813
Speaker 19: they pretend to be police officers, so they run into

1071
00:56:21,893 --> 00:56:24,213
Speaker 19: drug houses pretending to be the law. They take all

1072
00:56:24,253 --> 00:56:26,053
Speaker 19: the money and the drugs that they can find, and

1073
00:56:26,173 --> 00:56:29,053
Speaker 19: then they sell what they can take, and it's a

1074
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Speaker 19: very successful plan until they choose the wrong neighborhood and

1075
00:56:31,973 --> 00:56:35,013
Speaker 19: the wrong house and find themselves and over their head

1076
00:56:35,053 --> 00:56:38,453
Speaker 19: and tangled up in a real undercover police case. Now,

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Speaker 19: this is not the type of show that I would

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Speaker 19: usually watch, but I really enjoyed this. It feels like

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Speaker 19: a cross between The Wire and Breaking Bad, with a

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Speaker 19: lot of humor as well. The riding is sharp and

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Speaker 19: self aware, and the two main characters are really likable

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Speaker 19: and sympathetic, and the show shifts between the more serious

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00:56:56,333 --> 00:56:58,573
Speaker 19: moments of drama and those moments of colmedy quite well

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Speaker 19: as well. So it's taking that heist format and playing

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Speaker 19: with it a little bit, but still keeping all the

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Speaker 19: shootouts and the chases that people would expect.

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Speaker 3: Okay, that's dope Thief. So that's on Apple TV Plus

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Speaker 3: and on Netflix. A brand new season off one, Drive

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Speaker 3: to Survive.

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Speaker 19: Yeah, the seventh season of Drive to Survive. And I

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00:57:16,573 --> 00:57:18,613
Speaker 19: know we've talked about this show before, Jack, but it

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00:57:18,733 --> 00:57:21,293
Speaker 19: is one of the best sports documentary series out there.

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Speaker 19: This is the season that go This is the series

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00:57:24,013 --> 00:57:27,173
Speaker 19: that goes behind the scenes of Formula one and pulls

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00:57:27,253 --> 00:57:30,093
Speaker 19: back that curtain on what really goes on and is

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00:57:30,213 --> 00:57:33,213
Speaker 19: less about the car racing and more about the personalities

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Speaker 19: and the money and the politics that are playing out

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Speaker 19: in the background. And it's the show that has a

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Speaker 19: little bit of everything. And I think it has changed

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Speaker 19: the way we watch sport on television over the last

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Speaker 19: few years, and has also made Formula one really accessible

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Speaker 19: for a lot of people. But it takes what is

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00:57:49,533 --> 00:57:52,493
Speaker 19: essentially cars driving around in circles and makes it entertaining.

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00:57:52,813 --> 00:57:56,933
Speaker 19: The photography is beautiful, the editing is slick. You've got

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00:57:56,973 --> 00:57:59,693
Speaker 19: all that juicy behind the scenes footage, and it doesn't

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Speaker 19: patronize the people who already know a lot about the

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Speaker 19: spot sport as well, which I think is quite a

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Speaker 19: tricky balance to achieve. Netflix have tried this with other

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Speaker 19: sports like golf and tennis and America football and athletics,

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Speaker 19: but Drive to Survive is the best, and I think

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00:58:14,413 --> 00:58:17,253
Speaker 19: that's because there is so much money and ego involved

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00:58:17,253 --> 00:58:20,333
Speaker 19: here in the action is such high stakes. This season

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00:58:20,413 --> 00:58:23,453
Speaker 19: features Liam Lawson. The last episode of the season, episode eight,

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00:58:23,573 --> 00:58:25,493
Speaker 19: is all about Liam, and that's a great episode. If

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00:58:25,533 --> 00:58:27,453
Speaker 19: you just want to watch one episode of Drive to Survive,

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00:58:27,493 --> 00:58:28,453
Speaker 19: I would watch that one.

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00:58:28,533 --> 00:58:31,093
Speaker 3: Ah, yes, very good. I've just started it and I

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00:58:31,173 --> 00:58:33,613
Speaker 3: was wondering, you know, when we would see his side

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00:58:33,653 --> 00:58:35,773
Speaker 3: of things. I'm looking forward to that. I think you're right.

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Speaker 3: I think it is probably the best of the style

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Speaker 3: of things, although I am also a huge fan of

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00:58:41,013 --> 00:58:44,733
Speaker 3: Tour de France unchained. Yes, that's excellent as well. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: that's a close second. It's something like you say, it's

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Speaker 3: the combination of like big personalities, big money, high drama.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 3: Anyway, that sounds superb. Thank you so much, Tara. So

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Speaker 3: those shows once again, Adolescence is that fantastic new drama,

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Speaker 3: the one done in a single shot on Netflix, Dope

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Speaker 3: Thiefs on Apple TV Plus, and Drive to Survive season

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Speaker 3: seven is on Netflix. And if you are an F

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Speaker 3: one fan, of course, this being the first Formula one

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Speaker 3: race weekend of twenty twenty five and Melbourne just former day.

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Speaker 3: We've got a book that we're going to tell you about.

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00:59:16,133 --> 00:59:18,653
Speaker 3: This amazing new book from a journo who's been chasing

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00:59:18,813 --> 00:59:20,773
Speaker 3: the F one scene around the world. His name's Luke

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00:59:20,813 --> 00:59:23,213
Speaker 3: Smith and the book because a real kind of insiders

1137
00:59:23,293 --> 00:59:26,533
Speaker 3: look at Formula one has a few really interesting little

1138
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Speaker 3: tidbits and exclusive information. So we're going to tell you

1139
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Speaker 3: about that for mid day. Thank you for your feedback, Jack,

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Speaker 3: Love Train, Drops of Jupiter's my morning alarm. There you go,

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00:59:35,653 --> 00:59:39,493
Speaker 3: love it, Jack. I buy my CDs from op shops

1142
00:59:39,533 --> 00:59:40,733
Speaker 3: these days, says Grant.

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Speaker 6: Ah.

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Speaker 3: Good on your grants with the CDs. I came across

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00:59:43,773 --> 00:59:45,693
Speaker 3: a Train CD a few months ago. I hadn't heard

1146
00:59:45,693 --> 00:59:47,853
Speaker 3: of them. However, when I read the track list saw

1147
00:59:47,893 --> 00:59:50,533
Speaker 3: Hey Soul's sister, I immediately added that to my bipile.

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Speaker 3: I didn't recognize Drops of Jupiter until I heard it,

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00:59:53,333 --> 00:59:55,933
Speaker 3: but absolutely one of my best buyers. Now, so there

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00:59:55,973 --> 00:59:59,893
Speaker 3: you go, Jack. Four songs for my funeral. I've got

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Speaker 3: imagine what's going on from a distance, and Drops of

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01:00:03,893 --> 01:00:08,373
Speaker 3: Jupiter so celestial, says Lee. It's very good. If you

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Speaker 3: want to send us a message this morning, Jacket NEWSPORKSIDB

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Speaker 3: dot co dot Indeed is the email address right now.

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Speaker 3: It's ten thirty.

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Speaker 4: Getting your weekends started.

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Speaker 1: It's Saturday morning with Jack team on news talks Abe side.

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Speaker 15: Side.

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Speaker 3: You're not here when I need you? Oh so good?

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Speaker 3: This is She had, of course bona fide, absolute top

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Speaker 3: of the list in my view at the least New

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Speaker 3: Zealand rock legends. It is no exaggeration to call them

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Speaker 3: one of our most influential and iconic bands. Like I say,

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Speaker 3: top of the list for me. Drummer Tom Larkin and

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Speaker 3: vocalist guitarist front n John Two could form the band

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Speaker 3: back in eighty eight as students at Wellington High School.

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Speaker 3: John two good, of course, very good cricketer as well.

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Speaker 3: Lead guitarist Phil Knight joined shortly afterwards. Bassis Carl Kippenberger

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Speaker 3: was recruited in ninety one, and last year, after oh

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Speaker 3: what three and a half decades, ten studio albums, eighteen

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Speaker 3: music awards, the band announced they would finally be hanging

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Speaker 3: out their guitars, but not until they've given audiences one

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Speaker 3: last loud final tour. The Allowed Forever Tour kicked off

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Speaker 3: in New Plymouth back in December. It's been through New

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Speaker 3: Zealand's main centers as well as jumping over the ditch

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Speaker 3: for sold out shows in Astraya. The reaction has been massive.

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Speaker 3: Last night they played at Spark they sold the most

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Speaker 3: tickets ever for a key we headlined hard rock concert

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Speaker 3: and music man Chris Schultz was there. He chatted with

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Speaker 3: the lads. He's going to join us before midday to

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Speaker 3: tell us about it. Our texpert is a next twenty

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Speaker 3: five to eleven non news Dogs EDB.

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Speaker 1: Digging into the issues that affect you the mic asking

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Speaker 1: breakfast does your company look to specific projects or types

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01:02:26,173 --> 01:02:28,413
Speaker 1: of projects or any project's potential.

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Speaker 8: The Everding concession in Pretty has about eight billion z

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Speaker 8: globally under bunishment.

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Speaker 20: To fix all that with reputation, a reputation of a

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Speaker 20: rock star, of a success story, of a go getter

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Speaker 20: back Monday from six am, the mic asking Breakfast with

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Speaker 20: the rain Driver of the last news Talk ZEDB twenty three.

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Speaker 3: To two eleven Non news Talks EDB. Well beforeteen o'clock

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Speaker 3: this morning, Kevin Milne was expressing his befuddlement with a

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Speaker 3: bitcoin eight am that he happened to come across. If

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Speaker 3: anyone knows how to use a bitcoin EIGHTYM, I'm figuring

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Speaker 3: it'll be our Textbert Paul Stenhouse, Paul Di you've come

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Speaker 3: across one of these before.

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Speaker 21: No, but there are some places I've been to where

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Speaker 21: you can you can choose to pay at the cash

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Speaker 21: register using bitcoin right And it was a really great

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Speaker 21: story with someone you know this is now years ago,

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Speaker 21: probably ten years ago, paid for a pizza, yes, in bitcoin,

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Speaker 21: and that pizza today is now worth like.

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Speaker 3: Like the bitcoin that he used to No, I think

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Speaker 3: it's I think it's literally like tens of millions of dollars.

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Speaker 21: It may even be yeah, yea, yeah crazy. I mean

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Speaker 21: they were worth they were absolutely worthless, like it was

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Speaker 21: just and of course now they're not.

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Speaker 3: But I mean, okay, so you see a few of

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Speaker 3: these ATMs around the place, and maybe you can buy

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Speaker 3: a pizza and stuff, but you Kevin's issue, well, Kevin,

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Speaker 3: I mean he just didn't have any of the kind

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Speaker 3: of various apps and things that you need order to

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Speaker 3: get it. And also I don't I mean, he didn't

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Speaker 3: own any bitcoin. I'm not sure he was terrible enthusiastic

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Speaker 3: about investing some, but maybe maybe he would be. I

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Speaker 3: suppose you could argue, though, that cryptocurrencies have kind of

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Speaker 3: failed in their large failed at least to this point,

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Speaker 3: if they were looking to replace normal currencies like we

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Speaker 3: don't we people generally don't use cryptocurrencies for buying stuff.

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Speaker 3: They generally use them for speculative purposes or even nefarious purposes.

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Speaker 21: And some there was exactly the word I was going

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Speaker 21: to use, and Kevin being the upstanding yes, obviously does

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Speaker 21: not PARTICLK.

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Speaker 3: It's never needed to loann to hundreds of millions of dollars.

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Speaker 3: Necessarily No.

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Speaker 21: But the problem is is people just see them You're

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Speaker 21: right though, right, there is this there is this real promise.

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Speaker 21: And if you listen to the people who are big

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Speaker 21: into crypto, they're like, it's gonna you know, money is going.

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Speaker 13: To cross borders, international borders.

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Speaker 22: We're not going to need.

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Speaker 21: But the problem is is it's just at the moment,

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Speaker 21: it's for scam artists. You've got people like you, you know,

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Speaker 21: the Donald Trump coin or the Milania coin.

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Speaker 3: It's like you just pump it up, you hype it up,

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Speaker 3: and then you sell and crashes. Yeah, yeah, yeah exactly. Anyway,

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Speaker 3: So Apple Intelligence was built as this kind of revolution

1239
01:05:00,693 --> 01:05:04,293
Speaker 3: for people in the Apple sphere, people with iPhones and

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01:05:04,533 --> 01:05:07,173
Speaker 3: look about pumping things. Uh, and one of the big

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Speaker 3: changes they were promising. So they launched a new phone

1242
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Speaker 3: last year, the I think their iPhone sixteen, right, and

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01:05:11,853 --> 01:05:13,853
Speaker 3: they said that Apple Intelligence is coming. But they did

1244
01:05:13,893 --> 01:05:15,933
Speaker 3: this weird thing. They were like, Apple Intelligence is coming

1245
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Speaker 3: in a few months and si, yeah, and Siri, the

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Speaker 3: Apple Voice Assistant is going to be really amazing. It's

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01:05:22,933 --> 01:05:25,413
Speaker 3: going to do things you never thought were possible. How's

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01:05:25,453 --> 01:05:28,413
Speaker 3: that going? Not well, quite simply.

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Speaker 21: And it's kind of made me think back to some

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Speaker 21: of those really bad Apple launches, like they try to

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Speaker 21: launch bikeloud. I still don't touch iCloud because it was

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Speaker 21: such a disaster launched.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Apple Maps.

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Speaker 21: I'm very really open Apple Maps because do you remember

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Speaker 21: that was just it was sending people down roads and

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Speaker 21: roads didn't exist or roads were underwater. It took Apple

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Speaker 21: ten years basically to kind of like reget, you know,

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Speaker 21: to refresh their image in their brand around Apple Maps

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Speaker 21: to be something people actually want to use. And unfortunately,

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Speaker 21: this Apple Intelligence, which I've said to you I think

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Speaker 21: is the most genius AI branding around Apple and Intelligence.

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Speaker 21: Love it, it just hasn't delivered. And they really talked

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Speaker 21: about the Siri that we were kind of promised back

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Speaker 21: when Suri launched. You know, a Siri that knows things

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Speaker 21: that are going on. It knows who your mum is,

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Speaker 21: It knows that your mum's on a flight. You can

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Speaker 21: ask it, you know, when when should I be going

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Speaker 21: to the airport? And it's going to say, well, actually,

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Speaker 21: your mum's flight's delayed by thirty minutes.

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Speaker 6: You know.

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Speaker 18: It was kind of like that real Jetson's kind.

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Speaker 21: Of future peace, and they just they seemingly can't do it.

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Speaker 21: And Apple has now had to admit that it's going

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Speaker 21: to take longer than we thought. This is the statement,

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Speaker 21: It's going to take us longer than we thought to

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Speaker 21: deliver on these features, and we anticipate rolling them out

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Speaker 21: in the coming year. I think Jack, they were so

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Speaker 21: caught up in this AI hype because I mean, it's

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Speaker 21: been it's been a hype cycle, right that they pushed

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Speaker 21: this out, or they said that it was coming, it

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01:06:57,293 --> 01:07:00,973
Speaker 21: was not ready, it still isn't ready, and now they're

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Speaker 21: having to deal with the consequences of that. So probably

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01:07:04,133 --> 01:07:06,973
Speaker 21: they talked about it last year, so last summer, So

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Speaker 21: what n ninelish months?

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Speaker 3: I mean it is is there. I'm not just asking

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Speaker 3: you to put your your kind of Bush lawyer hat

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Speaker 3: on here. Is there a false advertising kind of law

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Speaker 3: so that it could be taken Because I was I

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Speaker 3: was considering, you know, I need to upgrade my phone.

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Speaker 3: I thought, can I hang on one more year? And

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Speaker 3: I remember looking at all the promos and they talked

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Speaker 3: it up so much.

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Speaker 21: There's a billboard right by the subway and it's got it.

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Speaker 21: It's this massive thing, and it was you know, partnered

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Speaker 21: up with one of the carriers. It's like, you know,

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Speaker 21: get the latest iPhone sixteen on Verizon now with Apple Intelligence.

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Speaker 18: Yeah.

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Speaker 21: And I remember looking at it just before, I you know,

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Speaker 21: before they came up with this and thinking to myself,

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Speaker 21: it isn't delivered, it hasn't come, it isn't launched. And

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Speaker 21: I was thinking exactly that same thing. I wouldn't be surprised.

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Speaker 21: I think they've couched it. I mean, they have delivered

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Speaker 21: on some of the features. So you can now get

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Speaker 21: your email summaries, your message summaries, your notification summaries that's

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Speaker 21: powered by Apple Intelligence. Yeah, you can create a memoji

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Speaker 21: that's powered by Apple and Intelligence. So they probably have delivered.

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Speaker 21: I use that with loose terms on Apple Intelligence.

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Speaker 18: But the promise that they.

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Speaker 3: Were they made on surih th stuff, the.

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Speaker 21: Cool stuff about Sirih. I mean, I personally think that

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Speaker 21: Apple Intelligence has made my sire dumber than it's ever being. Yeah,

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Speaker 21: I mean I used to love when surrih used to

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Speaker 21: say you have one alarms set and it's like really

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Speaker 21: one alarms, one alarms, and now it doesn't even recognize

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Speaker 21: my voice.

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Speaker 18: So I don't know.

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Speaker 6: I don't know.

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Speaker 21: Apple intelligence is very intelligent at all.

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Speaker 3: I dear Hey, thanks Paul, appreciate your time. Poll Stenhouse

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Speaker 1: A little bit of way to kick off your weekend

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Speaker 3: Well, it has been a bit of a tough few

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Speaker 3: weeks for the Vatican with the Pope hospitalized with suspected pneumonia,

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Speaker 3: so we thought we'd better get doctor Brian Betty and

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Speaker 3: just to give us a bit of a pneumonia one

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Speaker 3: oh one. He's with us this morning.

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Speaker 13: Held a good morning, Oh cure, Jack.

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Speaker 23: Nice to be here, Yeah, nice.

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Speaker 3: To be chatting with you. Let's just start with the

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Speaker 3: absolute most basic question. What is pneumonia?

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Speaker 18: Look?

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Speaker 23: Pneumonia? Yeah, Look, it's a very serious lung infection. Now

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Speaker 23: it's caused by a bacterial virus or occasionally a fungus,

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Speaker 23: and the bacterial virus lodges itself down in the lungs

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Speaker 23: and causes an infection on the lungs. Now, this can

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Speaker 23: be either often we see at the base of both

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Speaker 23: lungs and we call that bilateral, or it can be

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Speaker 23: in one of what we call the lobes of the lungs,

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Speaker 23: so a certain segment. Now, the problem with the bacteria

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Speaker 23: of virus getting down there is the body can react

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Speaker 23: to it, so it tries to get rid.

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Speaker 4: Of the infection.

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Speaker 23: So you start to get a temperature. Because temperature tries

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Speaker 23: to kill the virus or the bacteria, the lung becomes

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Speaker 23: inflamed and often it fills up with secretions of fluid

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Speaker 23: or even in very severe cases puss. And these are

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Speaker 23: very very serious infection. So, yeah, pneumonia's pneumonia is generally

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Speaker 23: not a good thing to get.

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Speaker 3: No, well, I think even more than generally never.

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Speaker 23: Never again, Yeah, to be stronger on there.

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Speaker 3: So what are the causes and how do you actually

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Speaker 3: know you have pneumonia?

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Speaker 23: Yeah, Look, there's two basic types. One we call community acquired,

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Speaker 23: so you get it in the community and can develop.

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Speaker 23: The other one you can get in hospital, and we

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Speaker 23: call that hospital acquired. Now I'll make your point here,

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Speaker 23: hospitals are not great places to be. We have lots

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Speaker 23: of sick people and infections often travel around, so they've

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Speaker 23: got quite a high infection rate, and pneumonia is one

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Speaker 23: of the things that can happen in hospital now. We

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Speaker 23: see it often if your immune system is weakened. Now

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Speaker 23: that happens as you get older. If you've got some

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Speaker 23: sort of illness such as diabetes or asthma, it can

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Speaker 23: increase the risk. Smoking is a very very big risk factor.

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Speaker 23: We know smoke, it's bad, but it can actually produce pneumonia.

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Speaker 23: And as I mentioned, actually hospitals are risk BacT for

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Speaker 23: pneumonia now in some cases as viruses such as influenza

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Speaker 23: or covid, and they can cause pneumonia, which is why

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Speaker 23: they are so dangerous and we have to be very

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Speaker 23: very careful about them. And look, the main symptoms can

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Speaker 23: have very rapid onset, so you can be feeling well

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Speaker 23: and you feel unwell very quickly. Often there's a very

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Speaker 23: persistent cough, you can bring up lots of phlegm and

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Speaker 23: colored sputum often fever or chills, grigles and feeling very

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Speaker 23: hot is a feature. Chest pain and actually feeling shorter breath.

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Speaker 23: That's a really significant factor. So if you're feeling short

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Speaker 23: of breath and struggling to breathe with a temperature, that's

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Speaker 23: a signal you really do need.

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Speaker 4: To do something.

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Speaker 3: So how do you treat pneumonia?

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Speaker 23: Look, it depends on the type. So if you see

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Speaker 23: your GP because you've got a temperature, your breathing is

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Speaker 23: a bit difficult and you're cocking up lots of phlegm,

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Speaker 23: we do an examination and often we can pack up

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Speaker 23: the pneumonia on the examination. We'll often order us chest

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Speaker 23: ticks around those situations. But we start you on antibiotics

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Speaker 23: straight away, usually for about seven to ten days, plenty

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Speaker 23: of fluids, parasitamol and antibotic and look, in most cases,

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Speaker 23: if we get in early, it'll shut things down and

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Speaker 23: it'll cure the infection. Now if it gets more severe

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Speaker 23: or if you get a viral pneumonia, now, the problem

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Speaker 23: with viral pneumonias we don't have adequate treatments often, so

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Speaker 23: the pneumonia is just time for the body to get

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Speaker 23: rid of it, and we'll treat it with parasital mol

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Speaker 23: and fluids and time. But if it gets more severe

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Speaker 23: with your breathing or what's actually happening. Look, you may

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Speaker 23: need to go into hospital and you need what we

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Speaker 23: call oxygen support, or in very severe cases you have

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Speaker 23: to go on a ventilator to actually help the lungs breed,

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Speaker 23: and that that that can lead to a very very

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Speaker 23: poor outcome. So so here we get really concerned of

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Speaker 23: things progress and and not responding to treatment.

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Speaker 3: Yes, and of course prevention is always preferable to So

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Speaker 3: how do you prevent pneumonia?

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Speaker 23: Look really important. Look, vaccination's got a role to play.

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Speaker 23: So as I said, flue covid can lead to pneumonia,

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Speaker 23: So getting those vaccinations and keeping them up to data

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Speaker 23: is important. There is another specific vaccination called NEWMCCCLE. So

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Speaker 23: if you're over the age of sixty five, it's not funded.

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Speaker 23: It's worth talking to your doctor about that because that

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Speaker 23: stops one of the common causes of pneumonia, which is

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Speaker 23: striped pneumonia. Stop smoking. Look, we're always going to say that,

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Speaker 23: but if you want to reduce the chances of something

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Speaker 23: like that happening, smoking is not a good idea and

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Speaker 23: looks staying healthy, I suppose bounced diet, exercise, managing diabetes

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Speaker 23: and asthma is really important. So those those basic things

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Speaker 23: that we always advise to do I think are important

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Speaker 23: immune system healthy and but look baseline, if you are

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Speaker 23: short of breath and you do have a temperature, please

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Speaker 23: please see your doctor and get dissessed.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's great advice. We really appreciate it, Brian, Thank

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Speaker 3: you so much.

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Speaker 3: Hey to eleven non news storks, you'd be a man.

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Speaker 3: The garden Root client past is here with us this morning, Gilda.

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Speaker 4: Jack.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I wrote ty to irritate us. He's uh, he's

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Speaker 3: referencing a subject this morning, bumblebees that are preparing for winter.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 17: Yeah, because I think you remember a couple of months

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Speaker 17: ago I was talking about take a post school and

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Speaker 17: all that sort of stuff that we were doing there

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Speaker 17: for these for one of the rare species. But anyway,

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Speaker 17: I just want to just make a general statement about us.

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Speaker 17: The large bumble bee that you probably even your garden

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Speaker 17: and everybody has in New Zealand, and that is one

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Speaker 17: of the best pollinators we have, the new.

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Speaker 24: Zee by the way, And I'm really really cool to

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Speaker 24: actually actually encouraged to be at your place.

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Speaker 17: So what the trick is here that with these particular

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Speaker 17: bumble bees is that they don't really go for nectar

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Speaker 17: or not that much because they don't make If you

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Speaker 17: like big hives, they've got the nests and they go

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Speaker 17: to one. If you like cycle a, yeah, that's it,

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Speaker 17: and now comes the time when that is slowing down

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Speaker 17: and right he comes. The coolest thing of all is

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Speaker 17: that first as I use them for pollination of my tomatos.

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Speaker 3: Right right, okay, yeah, And they don't.

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Speaker 17: Do it like a bee by sticking their tongue in

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01:15:24,173 --> 01:15:27,813
Speaker 17: the sucking nectar because tomatoes don't have nectar, but they

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Speaker 17: like the pollen, so the way they get the pollen out.

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Speaker 25: But it is a crazy, really cool thing.

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Speaker 22: You can always hear a bumblebee coming past, you know,

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01:15:37,293 --> 01:15:40,973
Speaker 22: that sort of stuff, and that vibration is how they

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01:15:41,093 --> 01:15:45,173
Speaker 22: actually shake the pollen out of the flowers. It's a

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Speaker 22: really cool thing.

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Speaker 3: Yes, I saw a lot of them. I saw a

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Speaker 3: lot of bumblebees on my capskan plant this summer.

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Speaker 4: Exactly the same thing, same sort of thing.

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Speaker 24: And the thing is, if you don't have any bumblebees,

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Speaker 24: you can use transistant and vibrating if you like a toothbrush,

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Speaker 24: you know, one of those things to do exactly the

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Speaker 24: same thing again, that noise, and then the whole movements

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Speaker 24: get those pollinating anyway. But what we're getting now is

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Speaker 24: that the queens are quickly laying a hell of a

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Speaker 24: lot of eggs to get young queens. They call them gains, right,

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Speaker 24: and these things need to mate with male bubble bees

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Speaker 24: right now. And what happens then is that the mated

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Speaker 24: queens will hibernate literally in a little hole in the

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Speaker 24: ground or in a little box that you'll find on

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Speaker 24: the website that I've put there, a little box that

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Speaker 24: you can make for them, and these things will literally

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Speaker 24: go through winter, and they even go through winter at

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Speaker 24: four degrees because they can actually make themselves warm by vibrating,

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Speaker 24: like becoming really.

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Speaker 25: Nice and where they really call these things. But this

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01:16:53,213 --> 01:16:55,773
Speaker 25: is important because if you want those bubble bees to

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Speaker 25: be around, now's the time to look after them and

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01:16:58,453 --> 01:17:01,413
Speaker 25: make sure that you've got places for them to stay.

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Speaker 25: That is what that is about. And so all these

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Speaker 25: little bits and pieces will be on the website. I

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Speaker 25: don't think Libby a short dead all that. And here

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Speaker 25: comes the nicest thing. If you've got a little box

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Speaker 25: and you put an old mouse nest in with mouse pool.

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Speaker 25: You'll be surprised how these guys, these new queen bumblebees

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Speaker 25: go oh, what's I like that?

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Speaker 23: And they go in.

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Speaker 13: And they live in that little real yeah d.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, there you go.

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Speaker 3: Well, there you go. Yeah, lemon's had lemonade there lemonade. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: very good, Thank you sir. We will catch you you

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Speaker 3: very soon. Rude climb passing the garden for us and

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Speaker 3: all of that stuff, including some pictures of those little

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Speaker 3: kind of wooden nests. You want to repurpose some mouse

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1509
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1510
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Speaker 24: More.

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Speaker 3: Any of you were jactating on news talks, he'd be

1516
01:19:02,853 --> 01:19:06,813
Speaker 3: through the mid day today. The thing about young boys

1517
01:19:07,533 --> 01:19:12,493
Speaker 3: is they just absolutely love superlative objectives. You know what

1518
01:19:12,533 --> 01:19:16,933
Speaker 3: I mean by that, like the best, the strongest, the highest,

1519
01:19:17,613 --> 01:19:23,133
Speaker 3: the longest, the fastest. They're absolutely obsessed with ists. In

1520
01:19:23,213 --> 01:19:26,413
Speaker 3: my experience, So when it was my our eight year

1521
01:19:26,413 --> 01:19:29,733
Speaker 3: old's birthday a couple of weeks ago, we knew we

1522
01:19:29,813 --> 01:19:31,533
Speaker 3: had the perfect president in mind when we bought him

1523
01:19:31,573 --> 01:19:34,173
Speaker 3: as first ever edition of the Guinness World Records. Are

1524
01:19:34,293 --> 01:19:38,293
Speaker 3: absolutely obsessed with, you know, the longest fingernails, the highest jump,

1525
01:19:38,493 --> 01:19:43,173
Speaker 3: the tallest man, et cetera, et cetera. Anyway, because young

1526
01:19:43,253 --> 01:19:47,693
Speaker 3: boys are obsessed with superlative objectives, are we While ago

1527
01:19:47,933 --> 01:19:50,253
Speaker 3: our eight year old asked me who the best ever

1528
01:19:50,413 --> 01:19:53,013
Speaker 3: banned in New Zealand was, And of course you can

1529
01:19:53,053 --> 01:19:54,653
Speaker 3: try and explain to them, well, you know, it's in

1530
01:19:54,693 --> 01:19:56,853
Speaker 3: the eye the beholder, and you know different people have

1531
01:19:56,933 --> 01:19:58,933
Speaker 3: different answers and all of that kind of thing. But

1532
01:19:59,053 --> 01:20:01,093
Speaker 3: of course I went with the easy appearenting option, is

1533
01:20:01,133 --> 01:20:03,933
Speaker 3: that I simply answered she Had she Heards the best

1534
01:20:03,973 --> 01:20:07,653
Speaker 3: ever band from New Zealand, because he wanted to hear

1535
01:20:07,653 --> 01:20:09,293
Speaker 3: the best of a band in New Zealand. It kind

1536
01:20:09,333 --> 01:20:11,253
Speaker 3: of became our thing that anytime we were in the

1537
01:20:11,293 --> 01:20:14,013
Speaker 3: car together we would always listen to Shehard. And he said,

1538
01:20:14,053 --> 01:20:15,253
Speaker 3: I just want to listen to Shehard. I want to

1539
01:20:15,253 --> 01:20:16,933
Speaker 3: listen to she Hard. They're the best ever band in

1540
01:20:16,973 --> 01:20:20,133
Speaker 3: New Zealand. I say, okay, okay, whatever. So we'd listened

1541
01:20:20,133 --> 01:20:22,693
Speaker 3: to She Had. And then a couple of months ago,

1542
01:20:22,853 --> 01:20:25,493
Speaker 3: we were walking along the street when who would I

1543
01:20:25,533 --> 01:20:28,373
Speaker 3: bump into but She Hard front man John too Good,

1544
01:20:28,533 --> 01:20:29,893
Speaker 3: and I was waiting for our eight year old to

1545
01:20:29,893 --> 01:20:31,693
Speaker 3: come out of school. He came out of school. I

1546
01:20:31,733 --> 01:20:33,173
Speaker 3: was sitting there talking to John Too Good for a

1547
01:20:33,173 --> 01:20:34,613
Speaker 3: couple of minutes, one of those kind of only in

1548
01:20:34,693 --> 01:20:36,973
Speaker 3: New Zealand stories. It's just a village, you know, et cetera,

1549
01:20:37,013 --> 01:20:39,733
Speaker 3: et CETERA. Eight year old comes out and I'm standing

1550
01:20:39,773 --> 01:20:42,053
Speaker 3: there and I said, roomy, I want to introduce you

1551
01:20:42,133 --> 01:20:44,133
Speaker 3: to someone, and he goes, oh, yep, and I said,

1552
01:20:44,493 --> 01:20:47,173
Speaker 3: this is John Too Good. And he goes hello and

1553
01:20:47,293 --> 01:20:49,533
Speaker 3: John said, hey, how are you doing roumy? Yeah, good things.

1554
01:20:49,573 --> 01:20:50,573
Speaker 3: How was your day at school?

1555
01:20:50,693 --> 01:20:51,173
Speaker 6: Yeah? Good?

1556
01:20:51,253 --> 01:20:52,653
Speaker 3: Thank you? Oh you enjoy school?

1557
01:20:52,693 --> 01:20:52,893
Speaker 10: Do you?

1558
01:20:53,053 --> 01:20:53,493
Speaker 7: Yep? Yep?

1559
01:20:53,573 --> 01:20:56,093
Speaker 3: I like school. And I said to Rumy, hey, Roomy

1560
01:20:56,213 --> 01:20:59,173
Speaker 3: just had an interest. Who do you think is the

1561
01:20:59,293 --> 01:21:02,533
Speaker 3: best ever New Zealand band? And without missing a beat,

1562
01:21:02,613 --> 01:21:07,053
Speaker 3: he said she had and John looked at him and said, ah,

1563
01:21:07,773 --> 01:21:08,693
Speaker 3: they're okay.

1564
01:21:10,933 --> 01:21:11,373
Speaker 7: Anyway.

1565
01:21:11,653 --> 01:21:14,533
Speaker 3: The reason I mentioned this is that she had Are

1566
01:21:14,573 --> 01:21:17,893
Speaker 3: on their final final absolutely wrap it up after three

1567
01:21:18,013 --> 01:21:22,093
Speaker 3: decades tour, well almost four decades tour. They played at

1568
01:21:22,133 --> 01:21:24,213
Speaker 3: Spark Arena last night and they reckon. It was the

1569
01:21:24,373 --> 01:21:29,493
Speaker 3: biggest ever audience for a New Zealand headlining band for

1570
01:21:29,613 --> 01:21:31,573
Speaker 3: a show with the New Zealand band headlarning at Spark

1571
01:21:31,573 --> 01:21:34,533
Speaker 3: Arena last night. And now man Chris Schultz was there

1572
01:21:34,693 --> 01:21:36,253
Speaker 3: in the audience, so he's going to give us a

1573
01:21:36,253 --> 01:21:39,893
Speaker 3: review off. She had's final tour performance at Spark Arena

1574
01:21:40,053 --> 01:21:42,693
Speaker 3: last night. Before midday, he'll be in. We'll make sure

1575
01:21:42,733 --> 01:21:44,133
Speaker 3: we cove out a bit of time just to play

1576
01:21:44,133 --> 01:21:46,493
Speaker 3: a couple of she had hits as well. If not

1577
01:21:46,613 --> 01:21:49,013
Speaker 3: for Roomy then for the rest of us, right, right now,

1578
01:21:49,053 --> 01:21:53,613
Speaker 3: it's ten past eleven on Newstalk and clinical psychologist Doogle

1579
01:21:53,733 --> 01:21:56,173
Speaker 3: Sutherland from Umbrella Well Being as with us this one

1580
01:21:56,213 --> 01:21:58,733
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1581
01:21:58,813 --> 01:22:01,813
Speaker 18: I was just listening about she had and I was thinking.

1582
01:22:01,853 --> 01:22:06,133
Speaker 8: I've got their very first album Chun on CD somewhere

1583
01:22:06,813 --> 01:22:09,853
Speaker 8: way downstairs, Yeah, which is quite it's quite a different

1584
01:22:09,933 --> 01:22:11,053
Speaker 8: sound than the later stuff.

1585
01:22:11,133 --> 01:22:12,733
Speaker 18: But well it's very heavy.

1586
01:22:12,893 --> 01:22:19,493
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's very very heavy, right, very heavy. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I.

1587
01:22:19,613 --> 01:22:22,693
Speaker 8: Really you know, it's great just for if you want

1588
01:22:22,773 --> 01:22:23,613
Speaker 8: something really.

1589
01:22:23,493 --> 01:22:25,373
Speaker 4: Really war that's the thing.

1590
01:22:26,053 --> 01:22:27,773
Speaker 3: So I reckon, I was thinking about this who's the

1591
01:22:27,813 --> 01:22:29,573
Speaker 3: best of New Zealand band? And I was like, oh,

1592
01:22:29,613 --> 01:22:31,773
Speaker 3: you can make arguments for you know, like I guess

1593
01:22:31,853 --> 01:22:33,573
Speaker 3: are we going to call crowded house in New Zealand band?

1594
01:22:33,653 --> 01:22:33,813
Speaker 23: You know?

1595
01:22:34,493 --> 01:22:36,933
Speaker 3: But I think if you're going like certainly down the

1596
01:22:37,093 --> 01:22:40,653
Speaker 3: rock route, like if it's true rock, then absolutely yeah,

1597
01:22:40,813 --> 01:22:43,173
Speaker 3: top of this for me, you know, yeah yeah, and

1598
01:22:43,293 --> 01:22:47,253
Speaker 3: for really and for various others. Anyway, we are talking

1599
01:22:47,373 --> 01:22:49,813
Speaker 3: parenting this morning, So my parenting technique when asked who

1600
01:22:49,893 --> 01:22:51,813
Speaker 3: the best of a band was was to not try

1601
01:22:51,893 --> 01:22:53,573
Speaker 3: and explain that it's in the eye of the beholder

1602
01:22:53,613 --> 01:22:56,093
Speaker 3: and that you know, it's really up to each individual.

1603
01:22:56,133 --> 01:22:58,893
Speaker 3: It was simply to say, she hard. But you've got

1604
01:22:58,933 --> 01:23:01,053
Speaker 3: some other parenting tips this morning, and one of those

1605
01:23:01,533 --> 01:23:04,173
Speaker 3: simple tips for parents is that parents actually have to

1606
01:23:04,253 --> 01:23:05,773
Speaker 3: focus on themselves a little bit.

1607
01:23:07,333 --> 01:23:07,533
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1608
01:23:08,293 --> 01:23:11,093
Speaker 8: Absolutely, And it's one of the things I think parents

1609
01:23:11,853 --> 01:23:15,213
Speaker 8: really struggle with, particularly with they've got you know, I

1610
01:23:15,253 --> 01:23:17,133
Speaker 8: was thinking about you guys with a new baby and

1611
01:23:18,293 --> 01:23:21,733
Speaker 8: young kids. I think it's something particularly having some time.

1612
01:23:22,293 --> 01:23:24,933
Speaker 8: You know that that kind of classic me time, focused

1613
01:23:25,013 --> 01:23:28,813
Speaker 8: time for yourself is quite a difficult thing for many

1614
01:23:28,893 --> 01:23:31,133
Speaker 8: parents because it comes with a layer of kind of

1615
01:23:31,493 --> 01:23:33,733
Speaker 8: guilt or the sense that you're being judged by other

1616
01:23:33,813 --> 01:23:36,573
Speaker 8: people if you if you if you take some time

1617
01:23:36,613 --> 01:23:40,293
Speaker 8: out for yourself. But in fact we know that taking

1618
01:23:40,493 --> 01:23:43,413
Speaker 8: some I don't sure I love the twom me time

1619
01:23:43,453 --> 01:23:45,893
Speaker 8: because it sounds a bit selfish, but will go with it.

1620
01:23:46,293 --> 01:23:47,813
Speaker 18: Taking taking that me time.

1621
01:23:48,053 --> 01:23:51,333
Speaker 8: Is actually really the researcher Shan's actually really beneficial not

1622
01:23:51,493 --> 01:23:54,533
Speaker 8: only for a parent's well being, but also for the

1623
01:23:54,573 --> 01:23:58,373
Speaker 8: well being of other people around them, and and so

1624
01:23:59,013 --> 01:24:02,373
Speaker 8: I you know, it's I strongly support parents to be

1625
01:24:02,493 --> 01:24:06,733
Speaker 8: able to take that that time out to focus us on.

1626
01:24:07,413 --> 01:24:09,573
Speaker 18: And it's more than just sort of having time away

1627
01:24:09,653 --> 01:24:10,293
Speaker 18: from the kids.

1628
01:24:10,333 --> 01:24:13,893
Speaker 8: You know, you can just say, oh, you know, daycare

1629
01:24:13,973 --> 01:24:17,013
Speaker 8: or whatever, but it's it's what the research is really

1630
01:24:17,093 --> 01:24:20,573
Speaker 8: pointing to is actually doing something that really engages you

1631
01:24:21,573 --> 01:24:26,453
Speaker 8: and and it's pleasurable. So deliberately seeking out some things

1632
01:24:26,493 --> 01:24:31,333
Speaker 8: that are going to give you pleasure and fun and

1633
01:24:32,373 --> 01:24:33,733
Speaker 8: and and energy.

1634
01:24:33,853 --> 01:24:36,373
Speaker 3: Really yeah, So that's that's really interesting that that it

1635
01:24:36,573 --> 01:24:39,053
Speaker 3: kind of is not just time away from the kids,

1636
01:24:39,093 --> 01:24:42,933
Speaker 3: it's actually something for yourself. So I'm not I swear

1637
01:24:42,973 --> 01:24:44,613
Speaker 3: I'm not just trying to go for a Husband of

1638
01:24:44,613 --> 01:24:47,333
Speaker 3: the Year here. But this week, this week's been my

1639
01:24:47,413 --> 01:24:49,493
Speaker 3: first first week that full time at work, So my

1640
01:24:49,573 --> 01:24:51,573
Speaker 3: wife's been at home with the baby, and you know,

1641
01:24:52,373 --> 01:24:55,493
Speaker 3: it's like it's great, but it's also grueling. And so

1642
01:24:56,053 --> 01:24:58,813
Speaker 3: when I've been getting home, I've been like walking through

1643
01:24:58,813 --> 01:25:01,453
Speaker 3: the front door and being like right, tag you go,

1644
01:25:01,933 --> 01:25:03,773
Speaker 3: And she's been rushing off and going to the mall

1645
01:25:03,853 --> 01:25:07,933
Speaker 3: and getting like a cheap more massage. But she's loving it,

1646
01:25:08,133 --> 01:25:10,413
Speaker 3: like it's really like I noted, Like she comes back

1647
01:25:10,453 --> 01:25:12,333
Speaker 3: and it's already like so you know, it's just so

1648
01:25:12,453 --> 01:25:14,653
Speaker 3: good even just to go for half an hour. It's

1649
01:25:14,733 --> 01:25:16,813
Speaker 3: just like you really you can see the kind of benefits. A.

1650
01:25:17,973 --> 01:25:21,053
Speaker 8: Yeah, you can, And that's kind of there's some recent

1651
01:25:21,173 --> 01:25:24,413
Speaker 8: research out that sort of hits on exactly that thing.

1652
01:25:24,533 --> 01:25:28,093
Speaker 8: Is that actually if if and it was particularly focused

1653
01:25:28,093 --> 01:25:32,573
Speaker 8: on mothers, that mothers who went out and did that

1654
01:25:32,773 --> 01:25:36,493
Speaker 8: kind of thing had higher levels of what they call vitality,

1655
01:25:36,573 --> 01:25:41,173
Speaker 8: and vitality is really being alert and energized and having energy,

1656
01:25:42,973 --> 01:25:44,333
Speaker 8: and that people who or.

1657
01:25:44,373 --> 01:25:48,533
Speaker 18: Mums who did that had those much higher levels of energy.

1658
01:25:48,653 --> 01:25:50,893
Speaker 8: It was almost like the metaphor I can think of it.

1659
01:25:50,973 --> 01:25:53,133
Speaker 8: It's really like recharging your batteries.

1660
01:25:53,333 --> 01:25:53,573
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1661
01:25:54,773 --> 01:25:56,493
Speaker 8: And the interesting spin off too was that in the

1662
01:25:56,533 --> 01:26:00,613
Speaker 8: research they found that mother's levels of vitality predicted their

1663
01:26:00,653 --> 01:26:01,773
Speaker 8: partner's levels.

1664
01:26:01,533 --> 01:26:05,053
Speaker 18: Of vitality as well. So if you've got to if.

1665
01:26:04,933 --> 01:26:10,693
Speaker 8: You've got an energetic vital you know, mother, then often

1666
01:26:10,733 --> 01:26:13,413
Speaker 8: the partners that flows into the partners as well. It

1667
01:26:13,533 --> 01:26:16,653
Speaker 8: shows I think the benefits to the whole family really

1668
01:26:16,733 --> 01:26:19,933
Speaker 8: are being able to just have that recharge time. Yeah.

1669
01:26:20,213 --> 01:26:23,213
Speaker 3: See, I reckon For a lot of parents, the one

1670
01:26:23,253 --> 01:26:25,133
Speaker 3: of the challenges that they just feel a bit guilty.

1671
01:26:25,253 --> 01:26:25,413
Speaker 7: Ah.

1672
01:26:26,373 --> 01:26:31,093
Speaker 8: Yes, Guilt's a huge thing. I think, and I think

1673
01:26:31,693 --> 01:26:34,133
Speaker 8: like thinking about my own parenting journey, but also I've

1674
01:26:34,133 --> 01:26:36,773
Speaker 8: worked with like hundreds of sort of families over I

1675
01:26:36,853 --> 01:26:38,373
Speaker 8: guess the last twenty five.

1676
01:26:38,293 --> 01:26:40,813
Speaker 18: Years or so, that that guilt that they've got it

1677
01:26:40,933 --> 01:26:44,773
Speaker 18: wrong or that they're doing something wrong, it really comes.

1678
01:26:44,973 --> 01:26:46,413
Speaker 8: I think it has a huge role in lots of

1679
01:26:46,493 --> 01:26:50,533
Speaker 8: aspects of parenting, and really often it doesn't need to

1680
01:26:51,613 --> 01:26:55,013
Speaker 8: but but I appreciate that it does. But often that guilt,

1681
01:26:55,093 --> 01:26:59,613
Speaker 8: I think, can can prevent people from doing something, in

1682
01:26:59,693 --> 01:27:03,293
Speaker 8: this case taking time out for themselves. So I think

1683
01:27:03,333 --> 01:27:06,653
Speaker 8: it's really important to be aware that you might feel guilty.

1684
01:27:06,693 --> 01:27:08,893
Speaker 8: But actually this research showed that that that you can

1685
01:27:08,973 --> 01:27:10,853
Speaker 8: feel the guilt and still do it anyway and it's

1686
01:27:10,853 --> 01:27:11,853
Speaker 8: still had an impact.

1687
01:27:12,773 --> 01:27:14,413
Speaker 18: So it's a bit like feeling the fear and doing

1688
01:27:14,493 --> 01:27:15,293
Speaker 18: it anyway.

1689
01:27:15,173 --> 01:27:17,813
Speaker 3: And it's actually beneficial for everyone. That's the kind of

1690
01:27:17,893 --> 01:27:18,293
Speaker 3: key point.

1691
01:27:19,133 --> 01:27:19,333
Speaker 18: Yeah.

1692
01:27:20,213 --> 01:27:23,133
Speaker 8: Look, the idea is that if you again going back

1693
01:27:23,133 --> 01:27:26,333
Speaker 8: to that battery metaphor, if your batteries.

1694
01:27:25,853 --> 01:27:29,533
Speaker 18: Are low in terms of energy, then then you aren't

1695
01:27:29,893 --> 01:27:32,293
Speaker 18: very good at engaging with anybody.

1696
01:27:32,333 --> 01:27:34,213
Speaker 8: Really, you know, you can only do it and you

1697
01:27:34,733 --> 01:27:37,053
Speaker 8: when were energy levels are low, we tend to lose

1698
01:27:37,093 --> 01:27:40,333
Speaker 8: our you know, lose our call abuse or be much

1699
01:27:40,413 --> 01:27:41,493
Speaker 8: less patient. And that's not.

1700
01:27:41,573 --> 01:27:43,333
Speaker 18: Particularly useful for anybody.

1701
01:27:44,053 --> 01:27:46,453
Speaker 8: You're a bit less engaged, like and we know it's

1702
01:27:46,533 --> 01:27:49,813
Speaker 8: crucial for parents to be actively engaged with their children,

1703
01:27:49,893 --> 01:27:52,773
Speaker 8: looking at them, interacting with them, talking to them. And

1704
01:27:52,893 --> 01:27:55,573
Speaker 8: that's harder to do if you have if you have

1705
01:27:56,093 --> 01:27:58,773
Speaker 8: low levels of energy. And look, it can be anything.

1706
01:27:58,813 --> 01:28:01,973
Speaker 8: You know, somebody, you know, like your your wife's going

1707
01:28:02,013 --> 01:28:05,253
Speaker 8: out to have a massage is her thing. My wife

1708
01:28:05,293 --> 01:28:07,773
Speaker 8: at the moment has spent the more wanting herkle dirkling

1709
01:28:08,973 --> 01:28:11,813
Speaker 8: and so that's that's her, that's her thing that she's doing,

1710
01:28:11,933 --> 01:28:12,133
Speaker 8: just to.

1711
01:28:12,373 --> 01:28:14,453
Speaker 3: Research, just remind us what herkle gurkling is.

1712
01:28:15,453 --> 01:28:18,853
Speaker 8: Herkle dirkling is an old Scottish term that means lying

1713
01:28:18,933 --> 01:28:20,893
Speaker 8: around in bed, not doing very much.

1714
01:28:22,733 --> 01:28:24,413
Speaker 18: And we got some we got some friends and the.

1715
01:28:24,413 --> 01:28:27,013
Speaker 8: Need and who often will text and say, oh what

1716
01:28:27,053 --> 01:28:28,373
Speaker 8: are you doing and they say, oh, we've just been

1717
01:28:28,453 --> 01:28:29,493
Speaker 8: hurdle gurkling.

1718
01:28:31,093 --> 01:28:33,773
Speaker 18: Sort of stage of just you know, lying in and

1719
01:28:33,853 --> 01:28:34,653
Speaker 18: out of beers and.

1720
01:28:34,773 --> 01:28:37,453
Speaker 8: You know getting up and you know, you reminded me

1721
01:28:37,493 --> 01:28:39,613
Speaker 8: of it earlier this morning when you I think you

1722
01:28:39,653 --> 01:28:41,293
Speaker 8: were talking about you know what sort of your day

1723
01:28:41,333 --> 01:28:42,893
Speaker 8: you're going to have you doing it. You might just

1724
01:28:42,933 --> 01:28:44,973
Speaker 8: want to stay in your pajamas and watch TV or something,

1725
01:28:45,013 --> 01:28:46,773
Speaker 8: and that's that Hirkle Gurkle.

1726
01:28:48,493 --> 01:28:52,173
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm into it. That's great, very good. It wouldn't

1727
01:28:52,173 --> 01:28:54,133
Speaker 3: be bad on triple word score as well, a Herkle

1728
01:28:54,173 --> 01:28:54,653
Speaker 3: Dirk would it?

1729
01:28:56,813 --> 01:28:58,093
Speaker 18: Absolutely scrabble and bed.

1730
01:28:58,293 --> 01:29:02,853
Speaker 3: Yeah, very good. Thanks to love it. Go Sutherland from

1731
01:29:02,973 --> 01:29:04,613
Speaker 3: Umbrella Well being there. We'll put all of that ad

1732
01:29:04,653 --> 01:29:06,373
Speaker 3: buys up on the news talks the website.

1733
01:29:06,533 --> 01:29:06,893
Speaker 4: Of course.

1734
01:29:07,373 --> 01:29:09,413
Speaker 3: Right now it is seventeen minutes past to leave. If

1735
01:29:09,413 --> 01:29:11,213
Speaker 3: you want to flicker to text ninety two. Ninety two

1736
01:29:11,453 --> 01:29:14,573
Speaker 3: is the number. A travel correspondent is the next.

1737
01:29:15,093 --> 01:29:19,013
Speaker 4: Travel with Windy Woo Tours. Where the World is yours book.

1738
01:29:18,813 --> 01:29:23,093
Speaker 3: Now, Mike Card He's our travel correspondent. He is here now, Kilder, Mike.

1739
01:29:23,973 --> 01:29:27,173
Speaker 13: Good morning, Jacket feels like perf and christ Church today.

1740
01:29:27,613 --> 01:29:33,773
Speaker 3: Okay, how so what great white sharks everywhere? Forty degrees

1741
01:29:33,973 --> 01:29:35,813
Speaker 3: second most isolated city in the world.

1742
01:29:35,973 --> 01:29:39,133
Speaker 13: No, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's got that sort of vibe.

1743
01:29:39,213 --> 01:29:41,373
Speaker 13: Jack the Western Forcer in town. They're going to be

1744
01:29:41,453 --> 01:29:43,813
Speaker 13: smashed even though the weather is more to the liking.

1745
01:29:43,853 --> 01:29:46,453
Speaker 13: It's twenty five degrees and Sonny in Christ is the

1746
01:29:46,653 --> 01:29:47,893
Speaker 13: right twenty five already?

1747
01:29:48,013 --> 01:29:51,493
Speaker 26: Yeah yeah, yeah right, so okay if you got great

1748
01:29:51,973 --> 01:29:56,133
Speaker 26: and rugby though, is the Northwest or is it probably

1749
01:29:56,213 --> 01:29:58,333
Speaker 26: will crank up at the moment it's calm, but I

1750
01:29:58,733 --> 01:29:59,893
Speaker 26: think it will crank up a bit.

1751
01:30:00,093 --> 01:30:02,053
Speaker 13: Yeah, but I love afternoon rugby.

1752
01:30:02,093 --> 01:30:02,893
Speaker 4: It's just the best.

1753
01:30:03,093 --> 01:30:06,733
Speaker 3: It is a I just reckon, Yeah, I to kind

1754
01:30:06,733 --> 01:30:10,413
Speaker 3: of afternoon slash slash evening sports, like there's something to

1755
01:30:10,493 --> 01:30:11,893
Speaker 3: be said for them. Ay, I mean this one but

1756
01:30:12,013 --> 01:30:13,493
Speaker 3: been one of the times of Aalukland f C. All

1757
01:30:13,533 --> 01:30:15,093
Speaker 3: their games have been or their home games have been

1758
01:30:15,133 --> 01:30:18,133
Speaker 3: at five pm and it's just so nice, like just

1759
01:30:18,253 --> 01:30:21,533
Speaker 3: you know it anyway, massive difference. Anyway, we're focusing on

1760
01:30:21,613 --> 01:30:24,693
Speaker 3: things slightly further north from where you are today. Bites

1761
01:30:24,733 --> 01:30:27,733
Speaker 3: and sights, intu and there is no sort of shortage

1762
01:30:27,773 --> 01:30:30,413
Speaker 3: of places in town for a hot soak. But what

1763
01:30:30,693 --> 01:30:32,773
Speaker 3: is so good about why ariki?

1764
01:30:33,893 --> 01:30:37,973
Speaker 13: Oh my goodness check this ebe lead luxury Spa boost

1765
01:30:38,013 --> 01:30:40,133
Speaker 13: onto the scene about a year and a half ago

1766
01:30:40,253 --> 01:30:44,613
Speaker 13: and they have cemented themselves as a signature experience in town.

1767
01:30:44,773 --> 01:30:47,293
Speaker 13: So rather than just taking like a quick dip in

1768
01:30:47,333 --> 01:30:51,613
Speaker 13: a hot pole. Why areekei comprises five distinct experiences. It's

1769
01:30:51,693 --> 01:30:55,293
Speaker 13: like a journey. It's like a wellness journey. So you

1770
01:30:55,533 --> 01:31:00,213
Speaker 13: move from the extremities of heat to cool mud, to water,

1771
01:31:00,933 --> 01:31:05,013
Speaker 13: air to steam, and it's all aimed at ramping up

1772
01:31:05,053 --> 01:31:08,173
Speaker 13: the therapeutic benefits of all things to your thermal So,

1773
01:31:08,293 --> 01:31:11,613
Speaker 13: for example, they've got the tonguarero fire and ice capes.

1774
01:31:12,053 --> 01:31:14,933
Speaker 13: So you start off baking yourself in the sauna and

1775
01:31:15,093 --> 01:31:18,053
Speaker 13: then you throw a bucket of ice flakes all over

1776
01:31:18,133 --> 01:31:21,693
Speaker 13: your body. It's so theatrical and just really sensory.

1777
01:31:22,213 --> 01:31:24,773
Speaker 3: Yeah, and like it's not uncomfortable at all.

1778
01:31:27,133 --> 01:31:30,973
Speaker 13: Well, it's funny because I'm a bit of a wasp

1779
01:31:31,053 --> 01:31:34,693
Speaker 13: when it comes to pole of plunging this. I had

1780
01:31:34,773 --> 01:31:37,893
Speaker 13: this sort of anxiety moment in Finland some years ago

1781
01:31:38,093 --> 01:31:41,973
Speaker 13: watching the fins, you know, hurling themselves into oceanic pole

1782
01:31:42,053 --> 01:31:45,853
Speaker 13: of water after baking themselves in the sauna. But Edwireki

1783
01:31:45,893 --> 01:31:49,333
Speaker 13: they've got like this magnificent sequence of geo thermal poles

1784
01:31:49,373 --> 01:31:51,853
Speaker 13: and they are designed so that you hop scotch from

1785
01:31:53,453 --> 01:31:56,493
Speaker 13: forty two degrees of hot water to nine degrees in

1786
01:31:56,533 --> 01:31:59,893
Speaker 13: the plunge pole and I did finally summon the carriage

1787
01:31:59,933 --> 01:32:04,253
Speaker 13: to play ball Jack. It is shockingly invigorating. I mean,

1788
01:32:04,373 --> 01:32:06,333
Speaker 13: my body was tingling.

1789
01:32:06,453 --> 01:32:06,813
Speaker 4: At first.

1790
01:32:06,853 --> 01:32:10,653
Speaker 13: I thought my body was burning from the cold sensation, right,

1791
01:32:10,773 --> 01:32:13,733
Speaker 13: but then it just tingles. You get this warm, tingling

1792
01:32:13,933 --> 01:32:16,573
Speaker 13: glow all over. It is quite transformative.

1793
01:32:17,253 --> 01:32:20,013
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, good. Yes, it's like a couple of moments

1794
01:32:20,053 --> 01:32:24,173
Speaker 3: of discomfort, but the benefits ultimately are yeah nice. Okay.

1795
01:32:24,213 --> 01:32:25,973
Speaker 3: So that's why, ikey, if you just head out of

1796
01:32:26,013 --> 01:32:30,053
Speaker 3: town the Skyline gondola aside from using what else should

1797
01:32:30,093 --> 01:32:31,053
Speaker 3: you do at the mountaintop?

1798
01:32:32,333 --> 01:32:32,893
Speaker 6: That's funny.

1799
01:32:32,933 --> 01:32:37,173
Speaker 13: Actually I had not loosed before until a few weeks

1800
01:32:37,173 --> 01:32:39,493
Speaker 13: ago when I went up to the Skyline. Yeah, I know,

1801
01:32:39,733 --> 01:32:43,813
Speaker 13: isn't that crazy? Great place to lose your loosing virginity though,

1802
01:32:43,973 --> 01:32:48,533
Speaker 13: because they've got seven kilometers of newly designed loose tracks

1803
01:32:48,813 --> 01:32:52,573
Speaker 13: and they've got these super cool led lit tunnels on

1804
01:32:52,693 --> 01:32:57,533
Speaker 13: the upper slopes of Mount non Otaha. But the other thing, Jack, is,

1805
01:32:57,613 --> 01:33:00,733
Speaker 13: once you've done your losing and whatnot, take a walk

1806
01:33:00,813 --> 01:33:05,053
Speaker 13: on that Skyline nature trail because you will not get

1807
01:33:05,133 --> 01:33:07,613
Speaker 13: bit of us across the city in the lake from

1808
01:33:07,653 --> 01:33:10,773
Speaker 13: those upper slopes, and I just loved looking out at

1809
01:33:11,733 --> 01:33:14,973
Speaker 13: mccoya Island bobbing on the horizon in the middle of

1810
01:33:15,053 --> 01:33:19,573
Speaker 13: the lake. And I didn't realize until recently that that

1811
01:33:19,813 --> 01:33:25,253
Speaker 13: island is intricately linked with the love song Paul Katy Kadiana.

1812
01:33:25,773 --> 01:33:29,853
Speaker 13: So that is the island that Henney Mowers swims across

1813
01:33:29,933 --> 01:33:34,093
Speaker 13: the lake to to canodle with her forbidden lover on

1814
01:33:34,373 --> 01:33:38,893
Speaker 13: mccoya Island. But yeah, fabulous walk up there. Just brilliant use.

1815
01:33:39,133 --> 01:33:41,973
Speaker 13: And I also love how the local be they believe

1816
01:33:42,653 --> 01:33:46,613
Speaker 13: fairy like people live in the forest on those misty mountaintops.

1817
01:33:46,653 --> 01:33:47,573
Speaker 13: They still believe that.

1818
01:33:48,613 --> 01:33:49,013
Speaker 4: Interesting.

1819
01:33:49,173 --> 01:33:51,373
Speaker 3: Yeah, Okay, I didn't know that either. That's really interesting.

1820
01:33:51,453 --> 01:33:56,253
Speaker 3: So for geothermal spectacles in towns, where is good for

1821
01:33:56,333 --> 01:33:57,373
Speaker 3: the social media feed?

1822
01:33:58,613 --> 01:34:00,933
Speaker 13: Yeah, there are so many choices. Jacket's a bit like

1823
01:34:01,093 --> 01:34:04,013
Speaker 13: having to pick your favorite child. But if you're after

1824
01:34:04,533 --> 01:34:09,693
Speaker 13: cartoonish colors and geothermal eye candy, I reckon Wild Tapoo

1825
01:34:10,693 --> 01:34:14,733
Speaker 13: just cannot fail to deliver. Because you've got the Champagne Pool,

1826
01:34:14,813 --> 01:34:17,373
Speaker 13: which is our largest hot spring, over sixty meters deep,

1827
01:34:17,613 --> 01:34:20,733
Speaker 13: and it's got that fabulous Aqua Marine center, and then

1828
01:34:20,773 --> 01:34:26,693
Speaker 13: all of the burnt orange Edges artists. Pellette our largest

1829
01:34:26,933 --> 01:34:30,893
Speaker 13: mud pole, and I love big masses of mud. Maybe

1830
01:34:30,933 --> 01:34:33,933
Speaker 13: it's the you know, the schoolboard child in me Jack,

1831
01:34:34,413 --> 01:34:39,613
Speaker 13: but just watching that monstrous mass of gloopy, gurgling mud,

1832
01:34:39,693 --> 01:34:42,693
Speaker 13: it's like watching a living, breathing, belching organism.

1833
01:34:42,733 --> 01:34:43,453
Speaker 4: I just love it.

1834
01:34:43,933 --> 01:34:47,533
Speaker 13: And then you've got crazy spectacles like Devil's Bath with

1835
01:34:47,693 --> 01:34:53,213
Speaker 13: that electric green sulfur color. It kind of looks radioactive.

1836
01:34:54,053 --> 01:34:57,653
Speaker 13: So yeah, wild tapoo. I think it's off the deluxe chart.

1837
01:34:58,053 --> 01:35:00,053
Speaker 13: Nature in the extreme nice.

1838
01:35:00,333 --> 01:35:03,453
Speaker 3: Yeah, I've been there before. It's superb. We went a

1839
01:35:03,533 --> 01:35:06,213
Speaker 3: little weekend away and yeah, it was just the current

1840
01:35:06,693 --> 01:35:09,533
Speaker 3: kind of amazingly, it feels like you're in another plane. Yeah.

1841
01:35:10,333 --> 01:35:12,893
Speaker 3: Rutu has always been proud of its culinary offering. So

1842
01:35:12,893 --> 01:35:14,853
Speaker 3: are there any fresh peats that took you fancy?

1843
01:35:15,973 --> 01:35:18,493
Speaker 13: Well? I went to Annie's gin bar and tapas for

1844
01:35:18,613 --> 01:35:20,973
Speaker 13: the first time. So this is a Maldi owned ethere

1845
01:35:21,013 --> 01:35:24,413
Speaker 13: and the Harder Town, and it exclusively showcases New Zealand

1846
01:35:24,693 --> 01:35:28,413
Speaker 13: produce and beverages. Lots of nostalgic nods to the kai

1847
01:35:28,653 --> 01:35:32,333
Speaker 13: of the owner's childhood. So she has reworked that with

1848
01:35:32,453 --> 01:35:35,773
Speaker 13: her culinary finesse. But you can sort of not away

1849
01:35:35,853 --> 01:35:40,773
Speaker 13: on small plates like cream power in panchetta rubbi orlom

1850
01:35:41,693 --> 01:35:47,133
Speaker 13: smoke smoked Cahawaii croquettes with wakami seaweed. And I thought

1851
01:35:47,173 --> 01:35:50,093
Speaker 13: of you Jack for the dessert sink into a Cadbury

1852
01:35:50,293 --> 01:35:54,173
Speaker 13: caramelo moose with fresh berries and chantilely cream. That is

1853
01:35:54,453 --> 01:35:55,613
Speaker 13: just extraordinary.

1854
01:35:55,813 --> 01:35:57,213
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that sounds like a bit of me,

1855
01:35:57,653 --> 01:36:01,133
Speaker 3: maybe a couple of those. Why is tipa tu so popular?

1856
01:36:02,533 --> 01:36:05,893
Speaker 13: Well, people will recall the Tammocki Maldi village just out

1857
01:36:05,933 --> 01:36:09,773
Speaker 13: of Roalter, So this has taken over from those guys

1858
01:36:09,933 --> 01:36:14,253
Speaker 13: in that woodland par and they've really raised the bar

1859
01:36:14,653 --> 01:36:19,773
Speaker 13: on delivering a truly lavish cultural performance and feast. It's

1860
01:36:19,813 --> 01:36:24,373
Speaker 13: a four hour long celebration of culture and kai in

1861
01:36:24,413 --> 01:36:27,573
Speaker 13: the forest. And once again it's the eats that are

1862
01:36:27,653 --> 01:36:31,613
Speaker 13: just so fabulous. The cannapace things like hawk and apple

1863
01:36:31,653 --> 01:36:36,573
Speaker 13: wrapped in cover color leaves. We had pickled pickle, pickle,

1864
01:36:36,893 --> 01:36:41,733
Speaker 13: native fern fronds, pickled absolutely sensational. And of course the

1865
01:36:41,813 --> 01:36:44,453
Speaker 13: three course dinner is headlines with Honey as the hero.

1866
01:36:45,173 --> 01:36:48,333
Speaker 13: But once again the ice cream another smash hip there,

1867
01:36:48,413 --> 01:36:50,293
Speaker 13: Jack Kumera ice cream.

1868
01:36:50,373 --> 01:36:53,893
Speaker 3: Superb yeah, cheeky okay, that sounds superb, very good. Well,

1869
01:36:53,933 --> 01:36:56,413
Speaker 3: good luck against the Force this afternoon. Enjoy that game

1870
01:36:57,053 --> 01:36:58,893
Speaker 3: and we will make sure that all of your tips

1871
01:36:58,933 --> 01:37:02,453
Speaker 3: for bites and sights and are up and available on

1872
01:37:02,533 --> 01:37:04,893
Speaker 3: the news Talks. He'd be website Mike Gardley, our travel

1873
01:37:04,893 --> 01:37:08,773
Speaker 3: correspondent there before midday. She Hard's final tour. Their last show,

1874
01:37:08,853 --> 01:37:13,573
Speaker 3: of course, is being performed at home ground in Wellington tonight. Plus,

1875
01:37:13,613 --> 01:37:15,493
Speaker 3: we've got your book picks for this weekend, including a

1876
01:37:15,533 --> 01:37:18,013
Speaker 3: fantastic book about Formula one which will give you the

1877
01:37:18,053 --> 01:37:20,053
Speaker 3: details on very shorty. It is just coming up to

1878
01:37:20,133 --> 01:37:20,933
Speaker 3: eleven thirty.

1879
01:37:24,333 --> 01:37:25,973
Speaker 4: Getting your weekends started.

1880
01:37:26,213 --> 01:37:39,173
Speaker 1: It's Saturday morning with Jack Team on News talksby.

1881
01:37:48,853 --> 01:37:50,573
Speaker 3: News Talks, it'd be just got to eleven thirty on

1882
01:37:50,653 --> 01:37:53,293
Speaker 3: your Saturday morning two thirty pm new said on time.

1883
01:37:53,333 --> 01:37:56,053
Speaker 3: That's when Liam Lawson's back on the track and then

1884
01:37:56,093 --> 01:37:58,133
Speaker 3: things get competitive. He's got one more practice, then thinks

1885
01:37:58,133 --> 01:38:00,853
Speaker 3: it competitive about six o'clock this evening, so they start

1886
01:38:00,933 --> 01:38:04,373
Speaker 3: going through the old qualifying process. Jason Pine is going

1887
01:38:04,453 --> 01:38:06,933
Speaker 3: to take us through the afternoon with weekends, no doubt,

1888
01:38:07,053 --> 01:38:10,093
Speaker 3: counting down to that first F one contest of twenty

1889
01:38:10,133 --> 01:38:11,893
Speaker 3: twenty five party very much.

1890
01:38:11,933 --> 01:38:14,573
Speaker 27: Indeed looking forward to that, Jackie, And it's the big

1891
01:38:14,653 --> 01:38:17,173
Speaker 27: one and what is a busy sporting weekend it is, Man,

1892
01:38:17,613 --> 01:38:20,573
Speaker 27: I really feel as though, Look I petitioned management to

1893
01:38:20,613 --> 01:38:22,813
Speaker 27: start at nine, but they were quite keen for you

1894
01:38:22,893 --> 01:38:24,173
Speaker 27: to continue.

1895
01:38:23,813 --> 01:38:26,453
Speaker 3: In your regular linit for a momentary. I don't believe

1896
01:38:26,453 --> 01:38:27,053
Speaker 3: that for a moment.

1897
01:38:28,013 --> 01:38:30,453
Speaker 27: But yeah, I mean obviously all roads lead to albert Park,

1898
01:38:30,493 --> 01:38:32,453
Speaker 27: the albert Park circuit in Melbourne this weekend. You're a

1899
01:38:32,453 --> 01:38:35,573
Speaker 27: big focus across today and tomorrow on Liam Lawson. Look,

1900
01:38:35,733 --> 01:38:39,413
Speaker 27: I don't know what to read into practice, you know yesterday,

1901
01:38:39,693 --> 01:38:42,453
Speaker 27: So we'll get some expert voices on that across today

1902
01:38:42,573 --> 01:38:45,573
Speaker 27: and then get to Melbourne tomorrow. Got Greg Murphy on

1903
01:38:45,653 --> 01:38:48,733
Speaker 27: the show, Bob McMurray, who knows a lot about about

1904
01:38:48,773 --> 01:38:51,973
Speaker 27: Formula one. Hayden Padden tomorrow interested to know whether you

1905
01:38:52,053 --> 01:38:54,693
Speaker 27: know there are certain things about drivers because Hayden patterns

1906
01:38:54,693 --> 01:38:57,293
Speaker 27: obviously a rally driver that go across all, you know,

1907
01:38:57,653 --> 01:38:58,693
Speaker 27: all kinds of motorsport.

1908
01:38:59,053 --> 01:39:00,293
Speaker 3: So have a chat to him.

1909
01:39:00,413 --> 01:39:02,333
Speaker 27: And I want to take a bunch of calls about

1910
01:39:02,373 --> 01:39:06,293
Speaker 27: how significant this is, because man, it is so significant,

1911
01:39:06,413 --> 01:39:08,413
Speaker 27: isn't it Jack, you know, one of twenty seats in

1912
01:39:08,493 --> 01:39:09,053
Speaker 27: Formula one.

1913
01:39:09,213 --> 01:39:11,853
Speaker 3: This's just ridiculous. I just think he's, like, I just

1914
01:39:11,933 --> 01:39:16,053
Speaker 3: think to have made it to this point represents such

1915
01:39:16,653 --> 01:39:21,293
Speaker 3: an incredible achievement by itself, right, Like, he doesn't have

1916
01:39:21,453 --> 01:39:24,333
Speaker 3: the gazillions of dollars that some of these other drivers have,

1917
01:39:24,533 --> 01:39:27,813
Speaker 3: you know, backing them from day one, and he's made

1918
01:39:27,853 --> 01:39:31,293
Speaker 3: it there on talent indisputably, and yet has to now

1919
01:39:32,053 --> 01:39:34,373
Speaker 3: try and put all of the pressure to one side,

1920
01:39:34,573 --> 01:39:37,453
Speaker 3: just try and you know, disconnect as much as as

1921
01:39:37,533 --> 01:39:40,733
Speaker 3: possible from you know, the many tens of millions of

1922
01:39:40,773 --> 01:39:43,373
Speaker 3: eyes that are going to be watching him around the world.

1923
01:39:43,533 --> 01:39:45,333
Speaker 3: You know that the pressure that comes with racing a

1924
01:39:45,373 --> 01:39:47,453
Speaker 3: car at two hundred and sixty or seventy kilometers an

1925
01:39:47,493 --> 01:39:49,973
Speaker 3: hour and knowing that one mistake can be potentially very

1926
01:39:50,093 --> 01:39:52,573
Speaker 3: very serious. I just, you know, I think it's extraordinary

1927
01:39:52,653 --> 01:39:53,013
Speaker 3: that he's.

1928
01:39:53,413 --> 01:39:55,893
Speaker 27: And he seems so yeah, he seems so unaffected by it.

1929
01:39:56,093 --> 01:39:59,733
Speaker 3: It's maybe it right, like, that's that's kind of weirdly enough.

1930
01:39:59,773 --> 01:40:03,253
Speaker 3: The fact that he seems kind of relatively relaxed about

1931
01:40:03,253 --> 01:40:06,893
Speaker 3: the whole thing is probably the secret to ways made it.

1932
01:40:07,133 --> 01:40:08,973
Speaker 3: You know, if he was really caught up in himself

1933
01:40:09,053 --> 01:40:10,773
Speaker 3: and caught up with what it achieved at this point,

1934
01:40:10,773 --> 01:40:13,373
Speaker 3: then I suppose he wouldn't be there. But yeah, I'm

1935
01:40:13,453 --> 01:40:15,813
Speaker 3: really looking forward to seeing I've never been a massive

1936
01:40:17,253 --> 01:40:20,213
Speaker 3: motorsport fan personally, but you know, I have found myself

1937
01:40:20,413 --> 01:40:22,493
Speaker 3: following his journey and you know, getting into eath one

1938
01:40:22,573 --> 01:40:24,413
Speaker 3: bit more over the last couple of years and just

1939
01:40:24,613 --> 01:40:27,973
Speaker 3: really you know, admiring as a sports person and you know,

1940
01:40:28,093 --> 01:40:31,133
Speaker 3: and as an ambitious New Zealander. What he's managed to

1941
01:40:31,133 --> 01:40:32,693
Speaker 3: pull off to this point I think is amazing.

1942
01:40:32,773 --> 01:40:36,533
Speaker 27: So trends seems out sporting it exactly the same as

1943
01:40:36,573 --> 01:40:38,853
Speaker 27: Huge Jack. I'm not a huge motorsport fan, but I'm

1944
01:40:38,853 --> 01:40:40,773
Speaker 27: caught up in this. Yeah, you know a key we

1945
01:40:40,853 --> 01:40:42,613
Speaker 27: were a full time Formula one drive. Can't wait to

1946
01:40:42,613 --> 01:40:44,733
Speaker 27: see what happens tomorrow and across the year as well.

1947
01:40:44,813 --> 01:40:48,173
Speaker 3: Yeah, so the Warriors, I said at the side of

1948
01:40:48,173 --> 01:40:51,853
Speaker 3: the show, like vintage Wires. You know, he can make

1949
01:40:51,893 --> 01:40:53,653
Speaker 3: all the jokes you want. What happens in Vegas stays

1950
01:40:53,653 --> 01:40:55,813
Speaker 3: in Vegas. But to turn around that performance with the

1951
01:40:55,813 --> 01:40:58,373
Speaker 3: performance we saw last night there you go so good.

1952
01:40:58,573 --> 01:41:03,053
Speaker 27: Yeah, and necessary too, because had they suffered another loss then,

1953
01:41:03,213 --> 01:41:05,613
Speaker 27: you know, I think, you know, it's only two games in,

1954
01:41:05,653 --> 01:41:08,053
Speaker 27: but people would start, you know, to murmur, and those

1955
01:41:08,133 --> 01:41:10,733
Speaker 27: murmurings would have got louder and look manly. Started well,

1956
01:41:10,773 --> 01:41:12,213
Speaker 27: they could have been you know, ten or twelve mier

1957
01:41:12,413 --> 01:41:14,413
Speaker 27: up early. But you got to give it to the Warriors.

1958
01:41:14,493 --> 01:41:16,653
Speaker 27: They soaked it up. They took advantage of a couple

1959
01:41:16,653 --> 01:41:19,253
Speaker 27: of mistakes and they won the game with six converted tries.

1960
01:41:19,653 --> 01:41:22,053
Speaker 27: That tells the story of a pretty good attacking performance.

1961
01:41:22,133 --> 01:41:24,773
Speaker 27: So yeah, we'll We'll get Slagh Griffin, assistant coach on

1962
01:41:24,813 --> 01:41:26,933
Speaker 27: after mid data chat about that. The rugby, of course,

1963
01:41:27,013 --> 01:41:28,693
Speaker 27: last night was going on at the same time. I

1964
01:41:28,773 --> 01:41:32,733
Speaker 27: was unbelievably stressed Jack watching my Hurricanes make tackle after

1965
01:41:32,813 --> 01:41:33,613
Speaker 27: tackle against.

1966
01:41:33,333 --> 01:41:36,213
Speaker 3: The Highlanders last night. I just needed to believe it's time.

1967
01:41:36,453 --> 01:41:38,813
Speaker 27: Yeah, exactly, So I got that as well and after

1968
01:41:38,893 --> 01:41:41,813
Speaker 27: two today, Sir Russell Coots is on the show CEO

1969
01:41:41,893 --> 01:41:43,973
Speaker 27: of sal GP how close are we to getting a

1970
01:41:44,053 --> 01:41:47,093
Speaker 27: long term deal with Auckland. He talked when we were

1971
01:41:47,493 --> 01:41:50,133
Speaker 27: broadcasting live from there back in January about wanting to

1972
01:41:50,173 --> 01:41:52,413
Speaker 27: put a five year deal together with Auckland. I think

1973
01:41:52,453 --> 01:41:54,013
Speaker 27: there's been a bit of progress on that, so yeah,

1974
01:41:54,053 --> 01:41:56,813
Speaker 27: Sir Russell Cootz after two jam pack showers, I say,

1975
01:41:56,853 --> 01:41:59,613
Speaker 27: both today and tomorrow's Jack with lots of opportunities for

1976
01:41:59,653 --> 01:42:01,213
Speaker 27: our listeners to call and have a yarn as well.

1977
01:42:01,333 --> 01:42:03,333
Speaker 3: Looking forward to it. Great, Hey, a big weekend and

1978
01:42:03,373 --> 01:42:05,213
Speaker 3: a big couple of weeks, pony, and I'm just thinking

1979
01:42:05,293 --> 01:42:08,573
Speaker 3: this time next week, fingers, Yes, we will be counting

1980
01:42:08,653 --> 01:42:11,053
Speaker 3: down to the All Whites will be one game away

1981
01:42:11,133 --> 01:42:16,813
Speaker 3: from qualifying for the World Cup. Right too early, but yeah, yeah,

1982
01:42:16,933 --> 01:42:19,533
Speaker 3: big week ahead I know for you, So yeah, enjoy

1983
01:42:19,613 --> 01:42:22,173
Speaker 3: this afternoon, looking forward to the show. Jason Pine behind

1984
01:42:22,213 --> 01:42:24,493
Speaker 3: the mic for a weekend sport right after the midday news.

1985
01:42:24,573 --> 01:42:26,453
Speaker 3: Before then, we're going to catch up with Chris Shultz,

1986
01:42:26,493 --> 01:42:29,573
Speaker 3: who is that she had a show last night at

1987
01:42:29,813 --> 01:42:32,853
Speaker 3: Spark Arena ahead of their final show at Home Grown

1988
01:42:33,733 --> 01:42:36,173
Speaker 3: this evening. And as well as that your book picks

1989
01:42:36,213 --> 01:42:36,653
Speaker 3: for this week.

1990
01:42:37,093 --> 01:42:41,133
Speaker 1: Twenty four to twelve, Saturday Morning with Jack Team Full

1991
01:42:41,253 --> 01:42:45,253
Speaker 1: Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered by News Talks EDB.

1992
01:42:46,213 --> 01:42:49,053
Speaker 3: Twenty two to twelve on News Talks 'DB Book Time.

1993
01:42:49,173 --> 01:42:51,173
Speaker 3: Katherin Rains is our book reviewer and she's here with

1994
01:42:51,293 --> 01:42:55,373
Speaker 3: us this morning. So Catherine if we are twiddling our

1995
01:42:55,413 --> 01:42:58,373
Speaker 3: thumbs sitting on the couch in the air breaks between

1996
01:42:58,573 --> 01:43:00,933
Speaker 3: F one qualifying later on today and looking for a

1997
01:43:01,013 --> 01:43:04,773
Speaker 3: good read on the grid, the Inside Track on Formula

1998
01:43:04,853 --> 01:43:06,933
Speaker 3: one by Luke Smith might be a good option.

1999
01:43:07,613 --> 01:43:09,773
Speaker 28: It certainly is a good option, and yeah, to get

2000
01:43:09,853 --> 01:43:12,653
Speaker 28: a little bit more of a fix of F one

2001
01:43:13,333 --> 01:43:16,853
Speaker 28: and certainly for fans of drive to survive. This is

2002
01:43:16,973 --> 01:43:19,053
Speaker 28: one of those books, you know, because only ten teams

2003
01:43:19,133 --> 01:43:22,693
Speaker 28: twenty drivers make maky for one, although from twenty twenty six,

2004
01:43:22,733 --> 01:43:25,013
Speaker 28: of course it's eleven teams, and this on the Grid

2005
01:43:25,053 --> 01:43:28,493
Speaker 28: book focuses on the people and their stories behind the racing,

2006
01:43:28,893 --> 01:43:31,093
Speaker 28: you know, that physical toll that traveling during the season

2007
01:43:31,133 --> 01:43:33,573
Speaker 28: has on the people who work there and the fascinating

2008
01:43:33,653 --> 01:43:36,733
Speaker 28: characters behind it, particularly the owners. And he writes in

2009
01:43:36,733 --> 01:43:39,973
Speaker 28: a really well written style where he bends the facts

2010
01:43:40,013 --> 01:43:42,253
Speaker 28: with the interviews and the conversation, so it feels like

2011
01:43:42,333 --> 01:43:44,853
Speaker 28: you're reading more of a story than a book full

2012
01:43:44,933 --> 01:43:48,693
Speaker 28: of facts about F one. And so those individuals outside

2013
01:43:48,693 --> 01:43:50,733
Speaker 28: the principles and drivers who pay a huge part of

2014
01:43:50,773 --> 01:43:52,773
Speaker 28: a team, and their part seems to be quite small,

2015
01:43:52,893 --> 01:43:55,613
Speaker 28: but like really precise because the team needs to all

2016
01:43:55,693 --> 01:43:59,573
Speaker 28: work in unison and then those behind the things of

2017
01:43:59,653 --> 01:44:01,893
Speaker 28: the track that you don't really see anywhere else, from

2018
01:44:01,973 --> 01:44:04,813
Speaker 28: sustainability to how they create new tracks, and you know

2019
01:44:04,973 --> 01:44:07,853
Speaker 28: why they have sell champage celebrations on the podium and

2020
01:44:08,373 --> 01:44:10,733
Speaker 28: they talk about the mechanical engineers from Mercedes and the

2021
01:44:10,813 --> 01:44:14,173
Speaker 28: things that they've done outside F one, using the F

2022
01:44:14,253 --> 01:44:16,053
Speaker 28: one mentality of this is good and how do we

2023
01:44:16,133 --> 01:44:18,493
Speaker 28: make things better? And I think long term, if one

2024
01:44:18,573 --> 01:44:20,453
Speaker 28: fans will find something that they like in this book,

2025
01:44:20,653 --> 01:44:23,053
Speaker 28: and those of us that are recent convents because of

2026
01:44:23,213 --> 01:44:26,373
Speaker 28: drive to survive in the seven series will find it

2027
01:44:26,533 --> 01:44:29,093
Speaker 28: really fascinating and a really good look behind the scenes.

2028
01:44:29,293 --> 01:44:32,013
Speaker 3: Nice, okay, cool. So it's on the grid The inside

2029
01:44:32,053 --> 01:44:35,653
Speaker 3: track of Formula One by Luke Smith. Life Hacks for

2030
01:44:35,773 --> 01:44:38,813
Speaker 3: a Little Alien by Alice Franklin is your second book

2031
01:44:38,853 --> 01:44:41,773
Speaker 3: for this weekend, which is a novel it is, and

2032
01:44:41,853 --> 01:44:42,533
Speaker 3: so Little Alien.

2033
01:44:42,653 --> 01:44:44,733
Speaker 28: It is four when this book begins, and she lives

2034
01:44:44,773 --> 01:44:46,933
Speaker 28: with her parents in England and her dad's a risk

2035
01:44:47,013 --> 01:44:49,493
Speaker 28: manager and he does his best to support and actually

2036
01:44:49,613 --> 01:44:52,493
Speaker 28: understand here even though he doesn't quite get her way

2037
01:44:52,533 --> 01:44:56,213
Speaker 28: of thinking and expressing herself. Her mother, though, has mental

2038
01:44:56,373 --> 01:45:00,133
Speaker 28: health challenges, and she's either utterly protective of her or

2039
01:45:00,613 --> 01:45:03,573
Speaker 28: entirely removed from her life. And al alien knows in

2040
01:45:03,653 --> 01:45:06,013
Speaker 28: this that there's something different from the cues that a

2041
01:45:06,133 --> 01:45:09,373
Speaker 28: pair giving away, and she feels quite alone and misunderstood

2042
01:45:09,493 --> 01:45:13,133
Speaker 28: by school and family, and the education system in particular

2043
01:45:13,293 --> 01:45:16,773
Speaker 28: has really failed her, and she's labeled as disruptive or

2044
01:45:16,933 --> 01:45:20,573
Speaker 28: inattentive instead of recognizing her need for structure, and so

2045
01:45:20,653 --> 01:45:23,413
Speaker 28: this creates a environment where she's out of place, and

2046
01:45:23,493 --> 01:45:26,013
Speaker 28: this feeling continues actually until she watches this late night

2047
01:45:26,093 --> 01:45:29,693
Speaker 28: TV show and has about this Foignage manuscript and this

2048
01:45:29,853 --> 01:45:33,413
Speaker 28: mysterious and unknown document that has fascinated scholars have attempted

2049
01:45:33,453 --> 01:45:36,333
Speaker 28: to translate it, and one scholar even went mad and

2050
01:45:36,453 --> 01:45:39,333
Speaker 28: convinced that the manuscript was written by an alien. And

2051
01:45:39,413 --> 01:45:42,293
Speaker 28: then suddenly, to her everything makes sense, and she's sure

2052
01:45:42,333 --> 01:45:44,613
Speaker 28: that she's from out of space and separated from her family,

2053
01:45:44,693 --> 01:45:48,173
Speaker 28: and she's fixated on learning about this manuscript and hopefully

2054
01:45:48,253 --> 01:45:50,613
Speaker 28: herself and the process. And so it's written in the

2055
01:45:50,653 --> 01:45:52,853
Speaker 28: second person, so you feel like you're in the shoes

2056
01:45:52,893 --> 01:45:56,973
Speaker 28: of a neurodiverted person, and this experience of observing the

2057
01:45:57,013 --> 01:45:59,693
Speaker 28: world from a very different place through her eyes, and

2058
01:45:59,813 --> 01:46:03,933
Speaker 28: this almost immersive, immersive experience of someone else's life and

2059
01:46:03,973 --> 01:46:07,213
Speaker 28: the differences and that desire to can with other people.

2060
01:46:07,533 --> 01:46:10,173
Speaker 28: It's very well written and very cleverly done, and yeah,

2061
01:46:10,253 --> 01:46:11,973
Speaker 28: really interesting story. One of those things that makes you

2062
01:46:12,053 --> 01:46:14,253
Speaker 28: think quite a long time afterwards about.

2063
01:46:14,013 --> 01:46:16,773
Speaker 3: The story and it's all coming together. Good, Okay, great,

2064
01:46:16,893 --> 01:46:19,773
Speaker 3: Thanks Catherine. That's Life Hacks for a Little Alien. It's

2065
01:46:19,813 --> 01:46:22,453
Speaker 3: by Alis Franklin. And on the Grid, The Inside Track

2066
01:46:22,533 --> 01:46:26,293
Speaker 3: on Formula One by Luke Smith was Catherine's first book pick.

2067
01:46:26,373 --> 01:46:28,093
Speaker 3: We'll make sure both of those and all the details

2068
01:46:28,133 --> 01:46:30,213
Speaker 3: for those books are up on the News Talks He'd

2069
01:46:30,253 --> 01:46:33,733
Speaker 3: be website. Eighteen to twelve. Chris Schultz has been at

2070
01:46:33,893 --> 01:46:37,573
Speaker 3: Cheehad at their second to last ever show a head

2071
01:46:37,613 --> 01:46:39,493
Speaker 3: of their final shot at homegrowing tonight. So he's going

2072
01:46:39,573 --> 01:46:40,893
Speaker 3: to come and give us the details on that in

2073
01:46:40,933 --> 01:46:43,013
Speaker 3: a couple of minutes. Right now, it's eighteen to twelve.

2074
01:46:43,173 --> 01:46:45,653
Speaker 1: Giving you the inside scoop on all you need in

2075
01:46:45,813 --> 01:46:48,813
Speaker 1: US Saturday Mornings with Jack Dame and bpewre dot co

2076
01:46:48,973 --> 01:46:52,333
Speaker 1: dot nz for high Quality Supplements News talks 'b.

2077
01:47:16,613 --> 01:47:16,933
Speaker 18: I reckon.

2078
01:47:17,013 --> 01:47:20,653
Speaker 3: This has to be one of the best rock songs

2079
01:47:20,813 --> 01:47:22,813
Speaker 3: ever written by a New Zealand band. It's run By

2080
01:47:22,853 --> 01:47:23,253
Speaker 3: She Had?

2081
01:47:24,093 --> 01:47:24,453
Speaker 15: She had?

2082
01:47:24,493 --> 01:47:29,613
Speaker 3: Of course a breaking up? Or are they Maybe I'm

2083
01:47:29,653 --> 01:47:32,253
Speaker 3: just telling myself hopefully that in a couple of years

2084
01:47:32,533 --> 01:47:35,173
Speaker 3: the guys would get back together. But no, at least

2085
01:47:35,173 --> 01:47:37,533
Speaker 3: the official line at the moment is that tonight their

2086
01:47:37,573 --> 01:47:41,653
Speaker 3: performance at Homegrown in Wellington where things began for them

2087
01:47:41,973 --> 01:47:44,973
Speaker 3: three and a half decades ago, the Capital, that'll be

2088
01:47:45,013 --> 01:47:48,533
Speaker 3: their last performance. Chris Shultz though, was it Spark Arena

2089
01:47:48,613 --> 01:47:52,333
Speaker 3: last night for the stadium spectacular? She had second to

2090
01:47:52,453 --> 01:47:55,253
Speaker 3: last ever show? And he's with us this morning killed her?

2091
01:47:56,173 --> 01:47:56,613
Speaker 18: How was it?

2092
01:47:57,453 --> 01:48:01,093
Speaker 11: It was everything you'd expect from a stadium show By

2093
01:48:01,213 --> 01:48:03,413
Speaker 11: She Had. It was two songs from every album. It

2094
01:48:03,573 --> 01:48:06,213
Speaker 11: was phones in the air, it was mosh pits bouncing,

2095
01:48:06,373 --> 01:48:09,973
Speaker 11: it was comfort Me and Run. They played Run, Pacifier,

2096
01:48:10,133 --> 01:48:14,173
Speaker 11: Wait and See Home Again, all of the anthems, everyone

2097
01:48:14,253 --> 01:48:14,853
Speaker 11: on their feet.

2098
01:48:15,133 --> 01:48:15,453
Speaker 7: Pyro.

2099
01:48:15,693 --> 01:48:17,453
Speaker 11: I've never seen Pyro at if she had show.

2100
01:48:17,573 --> 01:48:18,733
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, lots of Pyro.

2101
01:48:19,373 --> 01:48:19,893
Speaker 4: So it was that.

2102
01:48:20,173 --> 01:48:22,693
Speaker 3: It wasn't it was the big stadium stuff.

2103
01:48:22,893 --> 01:48:25,653
Speaker 11: It wasn't the emotional Yeah, there wasn't really room for

2104
01:48:25,693 --> 01:48:28,693
Speaker 11: the emotion to kick and I think it was more afterwards.

2105
01:48:28,733 --> 01:48:32,173
Speaker 11: It's more today, I think for me, especially that I'm

2106
01:48:32,293 --> 01:48:34,693
Speaker 11: just sort of sitting here thinking, oh, we can't do

2107
01:48:34,853 --> 01:48:35,333
Speaker 11: this again.

2108
01:48:35,493 --> 01:48:38,413
Speaker 3: Yeah, so you or she had fan absolutely okay from

2109
01:48:38,533 --> 01:48:41,333
Speaker 3: from from away back and maybe just for listeners, you

2110
01:48:41,373 --> 01:48:43,053
Speaker 3: can explain to us that they've sort of gone through

2111
01:48:43,093 --> 01:48:46,413
Speaker 3: a transition over the decades, right, Their sound has changed

2112
01:48:46,413 --> 01:48:49,333
Speaker 3: a bit. There was that the time when they went

2113
01:48:49,373 --> 01:48:51,493
Speaker 3: to the US that happened to come inside with the

2114
01:48:51,573 --> 01:48:53,693
Speaker 3: fallout from nine to eleven, which was a time when

2115
01:48:53,813 --> 01:48:55,973
Speaker 3: having a name like She hadn't it wasn't necessarily very

2116
01:48:56,333 --> 01:48:59,213
Speaker 3: very easy. But yeah, they've gone through a bit of

2117
01:48:59,213 --> 01:49:00,413
Speaker 3: a journey totally.

2118
01:49:00,453 --> 01:49:02,853
Speaker 11: They started out as like these young metal kids with

2119
01:49:03,053 --> 01:49:05,933
Speaker 11: mullets at Wellington High School. You know, their favorite acts

2120
01:49:05,973 --> 01:49:09,773
Speaker 11: were like, oh the Osborn and you know Black Sabbath,

2121
01:49:09,853 --> 01:49:12,093
Speaker 11: that kind of thing. That's how they kicked things off

2122
01:49:12,493 --> 01:49:15,453
Speaker 11: they did. I mean, they released the biggest album of

2123
01:49:15,573 --> 01:49:18,133
Speaker 11: their careers in the mid nineties with the General Electric

2124
01:49:18,213 --> 01:49:20,253
Speaker 11: That's the one everyone remembers. For those big d out

2125
01:49:20,293 --> 01:49:22,573
Speaker 11: shows when they owned that six pm slot, they were

2126
01:49:22,653 --> 01:49:25,533
Speaker 11: none for just coming on and absolutely killing it at

2127
01:49:25,573 --> 01:49:28,133
Speaker 11: the big day out and then Yes, they went on

2128
01:49:28,213 --> 01:49:31,013
Speaker 11: this bit of a journey. They had this like weird

2129
01:49:31,173 --> 01:49:34,573
Speaker 11: thing with the Passifire album, which they've since like reclaimed,

2130
01:49:34,773 --> 01:49:38,373
Speaker 11: is that she had album Yeah, and they lightened up

2131
01:49:38,373 --> 01:49:40,533
Speaker 11: a bit too, like in the twenty tens, was there

2132
01:49:40,613 --> 01:49:42,373
Speaker 11: was a poppier element to it. And then they came

2133
01:49:42,453 --> 01:49:45,933
Speaker 11: back with Five Eyes and Old Gods, their last two albums,

2134
01:49:45,973 --> 01:49:49,093
Speaker 11: which are my favorite. She had albums really so heavy,

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Speaker 11: they're so brutal. They recorded Five Eyes with Jazz Coleman

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Speaker 11: and just fought the whole time, and you can hear

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Speaker 11: it on that record. They were my favorite moments last night.

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Speaker 11: He's just huge, rumbling basslines and just just being pummeled

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Speaker 11: by them, you know, like it felt like that.

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Speaker 3: So, if they've had what ten albums, I think I

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Speaker 3: about that and the last two are your favorite, what

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Speaker 3: do you think about the decision for them to break up?

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Speaker 11: Ridiculous, Absolutely ridiculous. No, I think they haven't properly thought

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Speaker 11: this through. If you look at what's happening in the

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Speaker 11: current landscape right metallicra selling at Eden Park, Oasis are

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Speaker 11: going on a world too. Of these bands that remind

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Speaker 11: us of simpler times when the world wasn't this complicated?

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Speaker 11: Are just going off? They're re releasing their vinyl records

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Speaker 11: that you know, these Splatter editions twentieth anniversary and their

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Speaker 11: ninety five dollars. They are making money and you can't

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Speaker 11: get she Heads albums. I cannot get the general Electric

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Speaker 11: on Vonuy.

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Speaker 6: You can't do this.

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Speaker 11: They haven't done that, so I think they've I don't know.

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Speaker 11: I mean I sat down with them yesterday right before

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Speaker 11: the show, and I asked them, are you sure? And

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Speaker 11: they would not answer that question. They would look at me.

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Speaker 11: It got really awkward. I might as well have chucked

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Speaker 11: a dead cat on the table. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I

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Speaker 11: don't think they've fully thought this through. So look, I

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Speaker 11: don't think this is the end. I can totally see

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Speaker 11: them having a really big brain YEP. Maybe a couple

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Speaker 11: of years, Yeah, for sure. But then you know, I

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Speaker 11: spoke to you about Electric Avenue a couple of weeks ago.

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Speaker 11: The biggest act I saw there were the Dudes. Yeah,

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Speaker 11: that fifty year old band. That festival was made for

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Speaker 11: A band like She had to come back in a

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Speaker 11: couple of years and just rock like the Big Day

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Speaker 11: out all over.

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Speaker 3: It, Yeah and absolutely crush it. And do you know,

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Speaker 3: I've got this kind of theory that I've asked a

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Speaker 3: couple of musics about it before, and I don't know,

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Speaker 3: I've never quite nailed the question. But I feel like

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Speaker 3: rock music, like rock performed by a three or four

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Speaker 3: piece band, has just kind of been through this really

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Speaker 3: uncharacteristic dip in the last ten years. Like it just

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Speaker 3: hasn't like bands haven't kind of held the place in

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Speaker 3: global music that they used to, Like there's been a

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Speaker 3: real resurgence of pop and hip hop and all of

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Speaker 3: these other things. But I reckon the tide is just

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Speaker 3: starting to shift, you know, everything is kind of cyclical,

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Speaker 3: And I reckon like you say that, like we're kind

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Speaker 3: of heading back into an era where people actually want

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Speaker 3: to hear from a group with you know, one or

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Speaker 3: two guitarist, the bassis and the drummer, a person screaming

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Speaker 3: at the front of the stage.

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Speaker 11: And a legacy.

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Speaker 13: Yeah.

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Speaker 11: Last year's best show, by far best two shows was

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Speaker 11: pel Jam out at Mount Smart Stadium. Those shows were

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Speaker 11: so emotional, was just after the election. Eddie Vedder was

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Speaker 11: just such a generous and kind front man and he

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Speaker 11: just got us through that moment. Those shows were incredible

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Speaker 11: and yeah we don't. The thing I keep thinking about

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Speaker 11: is who steps up until she had place where we

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Speaker 11: don't have a band pitch and do that.

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Speaker 3: No, no, that's time. It totally is Yeah. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 3: like you say, it kind of spans generations. Like I

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Speaker 3: was saying at the start of this hour, you know,

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Speaker 3: if you ask my eight year old, who's your favorite band,

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Speaker 3: he says she had Wow, there you go. Yeah, it's crazy.

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Speaker 3: So the final show, little Asterix there is tonight Homegrown.

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Speaker 3: What do you think people who are lucky enough to

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Speaker 3: see them perform tonight should expect.

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Speaker 11: I think it might be a little bit more like

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Speaker 11: the Power Station show I saw on Wednesday.

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Speaker 3: This is a surprise show.

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Speaker 11: That was a quick fire show. They did not want

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Speaker 11: to leave the stage. They played for two one and

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Speaker 11: a half hours, twenty seven songs encore after encore you

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Speaker 11: could see they just didn't want it to be over.

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Speaker 11: I think, you know, homegrowns their home city. Yeah, they'll

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Speaker 11: have so many friends and family there, right, who're right

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Speaker 11: at the start. Yeah, it's going to be special. It's

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Speaker 11: going to be really special. I wish I was there,

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Speaker 11: and I saw them twice this week.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, man, I hope you. I hope that you've picked

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Speaker 3: up on something and that maybe you know, they'll revisit

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Speaker 3: that decision in months or years to come. But it

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Speaker 3: sounds like last night was a pretty epic performance. Wednesday

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Speaker 3: was really intimate and amazing, and I'm sure tonight will

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Speaker 3: be amazing too. Thank you so much, Chris, really appreciate it.

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Speaker 3: Chris Shultz, who's been lucky enough to be at two

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Speaker 3: of the three of she Had's final performances. This week,

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Speaker 3: we'll dig out well one of everyone's favorites to play

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Speaker 3: out the show in a couple of minutes from She

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Speaker 3: Had a head of that homegrown performance right now, it

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Speaker 3: is eight minutes to twelve.

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Speaker 1: A cracking way to start your Saturday Saturday mornings with

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Speaker 1: Jack Day and Vviewered.

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Speaker 4: Dot co dot insead for high quality Supplements. News Talk said, right,

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Speaker 4: it is just.

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Speaker 3: Coming out to the end of the show on news Talks,

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Speaker 3: he'd be before we go, you should really go and

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Speaker 3: read Chris's recap of she Had somewhat surprise last minute

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Speaker 3: performance at the Boiler Room in Auckland this week. He's

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Speaker 3: put it up on his substack. So we're going to

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Speaker 3: make sure we've got a link to that on our website,

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Speaker 3: News Talks, hedb dot co dot Nz Forward slash Jack.

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Speaker 3: That is the place to go for everything from our show.

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Speaker 3: We've got a link to Chris's fantastic recap of she

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Speaker 3: Had's performance there. It's on his substack.

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Speaker 4: Now.

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Speaker 3: Thank you very much for all your feedback this morning

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Speaker 3: we live your texts and emails. Thanks my wonderful producer

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Speaker 3: Libby for doing the tough stuff. Now this afternoon, Jason

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Speaker 3: Pine is behind the mic with Weekend Sport. A very

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Speaker 3: busy weekend of sport. You got Super Rugby, you got

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Speaker 3: NRL of course, plus Liam Lawson's twenty twenty five debut

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Speaker 3: as a Red Bull driver in the first round of

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Speaker 3: Formula One in Melbourne. He's next on the track sometime

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Speaker 3: after two o'clock and then I think things get competitive

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Speaker 3: with qualifying at about six p m this evening. For now, though,

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Speaker 3: we're going to leave you with she Had ahead of

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Speaker 3: their final performance at Home Ground. This is Pacifier. I'm

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Speaker 3: back with you next week. Until then, have a graat.

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Speaker 5: One sad.

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Speaker 15: Did so Chess.

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Speaker 18: Act to stuff.

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Speaker 4: You quo

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