1 00:00:09,093 --> 00:00:11,972 Speaker 1: You're listening to a podcast from news Talk zed be 2 00:00:12,373 --> 00:00:16,133 Speaker 1: follow this and our Wide Ranger podcasts now on iHeartRadio. 3 00:00:16,733 --> 00:00:19,893 Speaker 2: This is going to be an interesting discussion. Hamish Mackay 4 00:00:20,053 --> 00:00:23,053 Speaker 2: is a name you'd know very well, sports caster and 5 00:00:23,093 --> 00:00:26,853 Speaker 2: now real estate agent. He shared a post on LinkedIn 6 00:00:26,933 --> 00:00:30,653 Speaker 2: that has been picked up by news papers around the 7 00:00:30,693 --> 00:00:33,092 Speaker 2: world funnily enough, and it was very honest and I'll 8 00:00:33,133 --> 00:00:35,253 Speaker 2: paraphrase some of it here. He wrote, thanks to life 9 00:00:35,293 --> 00:00:38,413 Speaker 2: saving beriatric surgery, he went from one hundred and thirty 10 00:00:38,412 --> 00:00:42,533 Speaker 2: five kilograms to eighty two kilograms. And we've got Hamish 11 00:00:42,573 --> 00:00:45,693 Speaker 2: on the line to have a chat. Hamish, get a mates, 12 00:00:45,772 --> 00:00:47,892 Speaker 2: how are you, gentlemen? 13 00:00:47,893 --> 00:00:50,373 Speaker 3: I'm very well. Thank you fighting fit ah. 14 00:00:50,452 --> 00:00:53,412 Speaker 4: Yeah, well you must be surprised how much this LinkedIn 15 00:00:53,452 --> 00:00:55,693 Speaker 4: post of yours has blown up globally. 16 00:00:56,533 --> 00:00:59,853 Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, it's interesting because everywhere I've been nobody recognizes me. 17 00:00:59,893 --> 00:01:02,133 Speaker 3: One of my favorite things go out to the yielding 18 00:01:02,173 --> 00:01:05,973 Speaker 3: sales of Kacer in January and not a soul of 19 00:01:06,013 --> 00:01:08,572 Speaker 3: about people who I said hello to head any year 20 00:01:08,573 --> 00:01:11,613 Speaker 3: who I was. I had to reintroduce myself and that 21 00:01:11,733 --> 00:01:13,172 Speaker 3: was sort of a catalyst. So a couple of people 22 00:01:13,173 --> 00:01:14,533 Speaker 3: are starting to go what's going on? They I had 23 00:01:14,572 --> 00:01:18,212 Speaker 3: a few people who genuinely who saw me and didn't 24 00:01:18,212 --> 00:01:20,372 Speaker 3: want to approach me because they felt bad that I 25 00:01:20,453 --> 00:01:22,693 Speaker 3: must have had some sort of life threatening disease or 26 00:01:22,773 --> 00:01:26,133 Speaker 3: something had happened, so they didn't approach me. And you know, 27 00:01:26,533 --> 00:01:28,893 Speaker 3: so in the end, I need to put this out 28 00:01:28,932 --> 00:01:32,613 Speaker 3: there because as I got better and better and healthier 29 00:01:32,613 --> 00:01:36,013 Speaker 3: and healthier, I realized that. And people have come to me, 30 00:01:36,292 --> 00:01:38,572 Speaker 3: probably a dozen people. Would you talk to my brother, 31 00:01:38,613 --> 00:01:40,453 Speaker 3: would you talk to my brother and all my sibling 32 00:01:40,893 --> 00:01:42,853 Speaker 3: you know, and say, you know, do this if you 33 00:01:42,893 --> 00:01:45,253 Speaker 3: can get the opportunity. So that kind of prompted me 34 00:01:45,292 --> 00:01:48,293 Speaker 3: to go, well, I'll go to a slightly wider audience. 35 00:01:48,813 --> 00:01:50,653 Speaker 3: But you can't do this without putting up the good 36 00:01:50,653 --> 00:01:52,013 Speaker 3: with the bad and the ugly. And I had to 37 00:01:52,013 --> 00:01:54,693 Speaker 3: put up a couple of uglies, which was a catalyst 38 00:01:54,693 --> 00:01:59,413 Speaker 3: for me saying, you know, you got to do something 39 00:01:59,413 --> 00:02:00,733 Speaker 3: about this. Yeah. 40 00:02:01,053 --> 00:02:03,013 Speaker 4: Well, I never really thought of you, I mean watched 41 00:02:03,013 --> 00:02:05,133 Speaker 4: you for a very long time. I never really thought 42 00:02:05,173 --> 00:02:08,493 Speaker 4: of you as a large, larger gentleman. You see to 43 00:02:08,493 --> 00:02:10,893 Speaker 4: hold it pretty well. What do you think caused your 44 00:02:11,093 --> 00:02:12,213 Speaker 4: your your weight gain? 45 00:02:12,893 --> 00:02:14,933 Speaker 3: Yeah, also I was most of my time in the 46 00:02:15,453 --> 00:02:17,133 Speaker 3: years of T three, I was probably about one hundred 47 00:02:17,173 --> 00:02:18,972 Speaker 3: and ten kilos, so I can hide it under a 48 00:02:19,053 --> 00:02:21,413 Speaker 3: nice suit and the right sort of light thing. I 49 00:02:21,413 --> 00:02:23,453 Speaker 3: had a big enough frame to get away with it, 50 00:02:23,813 --> 00:02:26,573 Speaker 3: but I still had one hundred and ten kilos. I mean, 51 00:02:27,573 --> 00:02:30,653 Speaker 3: I mean some people would call it fat shaving or whatever, 52 00:02:30,693 --> 00:02:33,693 Speaker 3: but amongst the sports team, it was always, oh, my guys, 53 00:02:33,693 --> 00:02:36,973 Speaker 3: got that's where the missing pillow is, you know, Clint 54 00:02:37,013 --> 00:02:38,933 Speaker 3: Brown and Clay. But it was all good fun. But 55 00:02:39,893 --> 00:02:42,013 Speaker 3: what wasn't good fun was even of one hundred and 56 00:02:42,053 --> 00:02:46,213 Speaker 3: ten kilos, which is twenty five kilos lighter than my peak. 57 00:02:46,733 --> 00:02:51,373 Speaker 3: My blood sugars, blood pressure and everything else was Chlester 58 00:02:51,532 --> 00:02:55,333 Speaker 3: was horrendous. So you know, there was the signs were there, 59 00:02:55,373 --> 00:02:57,333 Speaker 3: even though I could, even though I could hide it, 60 00:02:57,373 --> 00:03:00,173 Speaker 3: you know, were a you know bluff my way put 61 00:03:00,213 --> 00:03:00,773 Speaker 3: it that way. 62 00:03:01,093 --> 00:03:04,053 Speaker 4: What did you try first before you went to surgery? 63 00:03:04,093 --> 00:03:06,173 Speaker 4: I mentioned, you know, you know, if you're concerned about it, 64 00:03:06,173 --> 00:03:07,853 Speaker 4: you probably tried a whole lot of different things. 65 00:03:08,693 --> 00:03:11,373 Speaker 3: I tried different diets, and I mean I did twice. 66 00:03:11,453 --> 00:03:14,653 Speaker 3: In my late forties. I got pretty fit and roads 67 00:03:14,733 --> 00:03:17,413 Speaker 3: the retro cycle to a Wellington Auckland. I mean that's 68 00:03:17,413 --> 00:03:20,972 Speaker 3: one hundred and twenty k's a day, wow, you know, 69 00:03:21,573 --> 00:03:23,973 Speaker 3: following the foot seeds of the old Dulux tour and 70 00:03:24,053 --> 00:03:27,093 Speaker 3: not that twice, but I hardly dropped a kilo and 71 00:03:27,133 --> 00:03:28,613 Speaker 3: you know, and I said to myself, you know, gods, 72 00:03:28,613 --> 00:03:31,053 Speaker 3: you're putting your you know, you're riding four or five 73 00:03:31,133 --> 00:03:33,493 Speaker 3: hours every day, seven days in a row, and you train, 74 00:03:34,053 --> 00:03:38,853 Speaker 3: you know what? My and one day it took a while, 75 00:03:39,493 --> 00:03:42,813 Speaker 3: and the initial discussions with a surgeon and a surgical 76 00:03:42,853 --> 00:03:46,373 Speaker 3: team was that you've got a brother who's genetically one 77 00:03:46,413 --> 00:03:49,253 Speaker 3: hundred percent the same as you, but he is as 78 00:03:49,333 --> 00:03:51,333 Speaker 3: skinny as a rake and can never put on weight 79 00:03:51,373 --> 00:03:54,093 Speaker 3: and never will, and why you and you will, So 80 00:03:54,213 --> 00:03:57,333 Speaker 3: you have to accept that it's probably okay to except 81 00:03:57,413 --> 00:04:03,933 Speaker 3: that you are, you know, you know, on the fat side. 82 00:04:04,573 --> 00:04:06,653 Speaker 3: And then a reason for this. But today we can 83 00:04:06,693 --> 00:04:08,333 Speaker 3: do something about it, and we can do it pretty 84 00:04:08,413 --> 00:04:11,373 Speaker 3: and safely, and we do it really well. So and 85 00:04:11,453 --> 00:04:14,813 Speaker 3: I had an opportunity that came about from a sort 86 00:04:14,813 --> 00:04:17,053 Speaker 3: of a secondary thing that I'm dealing with in the 87 00:04:17,093 --> 00:04:19,452 Speaker 3: public health system, and the basically that one of the 88 00:04:19,493 --> 00:04:21,653 Speaker 3: doctors said how long you've been this fat? You know, 89 00:04:21,733 --> 00:04:23,693 Speaker 3: you didn't quite say it as brutally as that was 90 00:04:23,733 --> 00:04:27,013 Speaker 3: a comedy. Yeah comment, he said, because these things here 91 00:04:27,053 --> 00:04:28,893 Speaker 3: said yes to me, you will. You'll be dead pretty 92 00:04:28,893 --> 00:04:32,413 Speaker 3: soon these readings. And that's when I went, Okay, I'm 93 00:04:32,413 --> 00:04:35,333 Speaker 3: happy to go unto this program and let's see for progresses. 94 00:04:35,373 --> 00:04:37,173 Speaker 3: See how we go. Yeah, do you reckon? 95 00:04:37,213 --> 00:04:39,293 Speaker 2: There is still a bit of a taboo around that, 96 00:04:39,293 --> 00:04:43,813 Speaker 2: the bariatric surgery Hamoush. I mean, there'll be candless of 97 00:04:43,813 --> 00:04:46,213 Speaker 2: people listening right now that it did everything you did. 98 00:04:46,213 --> 00:04:48,373 Speaker 2: You were a fit guy, I take it. You know 99 00:04:48,413 --> 00:04:50,933 Speaker 2: you tried the diet route and just whatever you tried, 100 00:04:50,973 --> 00:04:53,973 Speaker 2: you can't shift that weight. There'll be thousands listening in 101 00:04:53,973 --> 00:04:57,893 Speaker 2: that situation right now, but that that pathway to surgery. 102 00:04:57,933 --> 00:05:00,693 Speaker 2: They might be freaking out a little bit, thinking that's extreme, 103 00:05:00,773 --> 00:05:04,173 Speaker 2: but you're saying for you and for countless others, it 104 00:05:04,253 --> 00:05:05,253 Speaker 2: can be life saving. 105 00:05:06,133 --> 00:05:09,293 Speaker 3: Yeah, I believe so. I mean, and you know there 106 00:05:09,293 --> 00:05:12,133 Speaker 3: are people who can go, oh, you know, you fatties 107 00:05:12,173 --> 00:05:14,573 Speaker 3: need to do something about it. Well. I had to 108 00:05:14,613 --> 00:05:17,293 Speaker 3: lose twenty kilos before the operation, right, so there was 109 00:05:17,333 --> 00:05:20,133 Speaker 3: a pretty big you know, I got into good shape again. 110 00:05:20,213 --> 00:05:22,053 Speaker 3: My wife and I went, well, why are you doing this? Well, 111 00:05:22,173 --> 00:05:23,813 Speaker 3: the reason your artist, because you'll put it back on. 112 00:05:24,293 --> 00:05:26,093 Speaker 3: And that was. That was. But that was on a 113 00:05:26,213 --> 00:05:30,373 Speaker 3: diet where suddenly tomatoes started to taste like mandarins and 114 00:05:30,453 --> 00:05:33,133 Speaker 3: yoga like the richest ice cream you could. So it 115 00:05:33,253 --> 00:05:36,892 Speaker 3: was working. You know, those things are there, they do work. 116 00:05:36,973 --> 00:05:40,773 Speaker 3: But I went exponentially at this weight, my two dodgy knees, 117 00:05:40,853 --> 00:05:43,853 Speaker 3: which funnily enough I don't have anymore because I can 118 00:05:43,933 --> 00:05:47,013 Speaker 3: jog again and not only shuffle like a fifty nine 119 00:05:47,053 --> 00:05:49,733 Speaker 3: year old, I can actually run, you know. And so 120 00:05:49,893 --> 00:05:52,373 Speaker 3: I was looking at needs replacements, hip replacements. So I 121 00:05:52,453 --> 00:05:56,733 Speaker 3: believe that yes, some of the some of my text 122 00:05:56,773 --> 00:05:59,253 Speaker 3: take over the years has got I have got back 123 00:05:59,293 --> 00:06:02,093 Speaker 3: in this particular procedure. But I'm saying that a lot 124 00:06:02,493 --> 00:06:04,653 Speaker 3: exponentially because I would have just been one of those 125 00:06:04,693 --> 00:06:08,533 Speaker 3: cupcases fixed there. And probably the fact that I'm really 126 00:06:08,613 --> 00:06:11,493 Speaker 3: lucky that, you know, the bike rides is a disthmatica 127 00:06:11,493 --> 00:06:14,173 Speaker 3: of my lungs were okay, I want to hang around. 128 00:06:15,173 --> 00:06:18,293 Speaker 3: Sucked every last dollar out of the health system. Now, 129 00:06:18,573 --> 00:06:21,773 Speaker 3: going from seven different piolls to taking nothing. I think 130 00:06:21,813 --> 00:06:25,773 Speaker 3: that that's pretty you know, a pretty good case for 131 00:06:26,373 --> 00:06:28,413 Speaker 3: to encourage people that those are going to afford to 132 00:06:28,413 --> 00:06:30,213 Speaker 3: do it, go and do it tomorrow. Put you know, 133 00:06:30,293 --> 00:06:33,533 Speaker 3: those who need to get into the system, please try 134 00:06:33,573 --> 00:06:36,173 Speaker 3: and do it. And you know, and I've been overwhelmed 135 00:06:36,173 --> 00:06:38,733 Speaker 3: by the sort of the reaction to the to this article, 136 00:06:39,173 --> 00:06:41,293 Speaker 3: you know, the article we've had, because it's just like 137 00:06:41,333 --> 00:06:46,213 Speaker 3: I've already probably got ten private messages, more on social 138 00:06:46,253 --> 00:06:48,933 Speaker 3: media and more people just coming on the phone and saying, hey, 139 00:06:49,213 --> 00:06:52,693 Speaker 3: can you can you tell us about it? And and 140 00:06:52,133 --> 00:06:54,693 Speaker 3: if you put yourself out there like that, then you 141 00:06:54,773 --> 00:06:57,653 Speaker 3: have to be prepared to respond to those people as well. 142 00:06:58,213 --> 00:07:00,453 Speaker 3: No I have. I'm trying, one by one. I'm getting back. 143 00:07:01,613 --> 00:07:02,733 Speaker 3: You know, here's my story. 144 00:07:03,453 --> 00:07:07,613 Speaker 4: We're talking to broadcasting legion Homus mackay about here's decision 145 00:07:07,653 --> 00:07:11,653 Speaker 4: to get surge that ended up with some dropping from 146 00:07:11,653 --> 00:07:14,693 Speaker 4: one hundred and thirty five kgs down to a spelt 147 00:07:14,813 --> 00:07:18,733 Speaker 4: eighty five. What was the what was the actual surgery process? 148 00:07:18,813 --> 00:07:23,093 Speaker 3: Like, yeah, so it's I mean, it's it's not a 149 00:07:23,253 --> 00:07:29,373 Speaker 3: it's look you go the process. I'm trying to think 150 00:07:29,413 --> 00:07:31,413 Speaker 3: what was a three or four hours And I know 151 00:07:32,133 --> 00:07:36,613 Speaker 3: there's a whole raft of these various stomach stapling, stomach 152 00:07:36,653 --> 00:07:39,693 Speaker 3: removal data nages you can have done now, so there's 153 00:07:39,693 --> 00:07:42,653 Speaker 3: no one size fit door. Mine was was a thing 154 00:07:42,733 --> 00:07:45,973 Speaker 3: called a rumix y, which is a I stuffered a 155 00:07:45,973 --> 00:07:48,253 Speaker 3: lot from refluxing things. So they that you can never 156 00:07:48,293 --> 00:07:51,013 Speaker 3: get that again because of the way they what they 157 00:07:51,093 --> 00:07:54,013 Speaker 3: take out and what they recreated there. I had a 158 00:07:54,053 --> 00:07:57,853 Speaker 3: little bit of problem afterwards, was healed so well that 159 00:07:58,173 --> 00:08:02,413 Speaker 3: my issry to my stomach killed over. And when you 160 00:08:02,453 --> 00:08:04,653 Speaker 3: get into that weight loss, when you've been big and 161 00:08:04,773 --> 00:08:07,453 Speaker 3: you and you enjoy being losing weight, you probably go 162 00:08:07,653 --> 00:08:11,133 Speaker 3: a little too. I went down to about seventy five years. 163 00:08:11,373 --> 00:08:14,773 Speaker 3: I was a bag of buns. But and now now 164 00:08:15,253 --> 00:08:18,333 Speaker 3: I just you know, eat eat all day. We're not, 165 00:08:18,413 --> 00:08:22,573 Speaker 3: you know, within reason and well, and I can't put 166 00:08:22,573 --> 00:08:25,373 Speaker 3: anything on over about eighty two eighty three kgs. So 167 00:08:26,173 --> 00:08:28,253 Speaker 3: and the minute you start exercise, of course you burn 168 00:08:28,333 --> 00:08:35,013 Speaker 3: it off. But yeah, it's you know, it's the procedure itself. 169 00:08:35,693 --> 00:08:39,652 Speaker 3: Recovery is a little little but you've just got to 170 00:08:39,693 --> 00:08:41,492 Speaker 3: be gentle with your coming. You can't do much for 171 00:08:41,533 --> 00:08:44,453 Speaker 3: the first month or so, and you slowly you're on 172 00:08:44,573 --> 00:08:49,973 Speaker 3: sort of pure pure food. But remarkably you lose weight 173 00:08:50,372 --> 00:08:53,693 Speaker 3: pretty damn quickly. And but like I say, the public 174 00:08:53,773 --> 00:08:55,933 Speaker 3: system obviously has got a very struck rule. If you 175 00:08:55,933 --> 00:08:59,532 Speaker 3: don't lose the weight, sorry, no can do. And there 176 00:08:59,573 --> 00:09:02,253 Speaker 3: are plenty of cases of where they've follen to do it. 177 00:09:02,333 --> 00:09:05,373 Speaker 3: So no, no, you haven't done what we needed to do, 178 00:09:05,533 --> 00:09:09,173 Speaker 3: because your liver is the one that will tell you 179 00:09:09,213 --> 00:09:11,573 Speaker 3: whether you've done what's been asked. Not so much of 180 00:09:11,573 --> 00:09:14,133 Speaker 3: the actual weight loss. It's the reduction of all the 181 00:09:14,173 --> 00:09:16,813 Speaker 3: bad stuff. And if they look at your living and 182 00:09:16,813 --> 00:09:19,773 Speaker 3: go no information, Bang, we'll get on with this. It was. 183 00:09:19,773 --> 00:09:22,893 Speaker 3: It was pretty stricted. There was no knocking around. There's 184 00:09:22,933 --> 00:09:26,053 Speaker 3: been some incredible like I would say, kind of like 185 00:09:27,252 --> 00:09:30,532 Speaker 3: I described the period from when somebody came in and 186 00:09:30,852 --> 00:09:33,132 Speaker 3: wrapped the guts out of TV three ten years ago, 187 00:09:34,372 --> 00:09:36,973 Speaker 3: a bit of a comfortably that black hole where you know, 188 00:09:36,973 --> 00:09:39,053 Speaker 3: I've been selling real estate and Doune and they had 189 00:09:39,053 --> 00:09:41,453 Speaker 3: a you know, I had a pretty successful radio show 190 00:09:41,453 --> 00:09:45,093 Speaker 3: with Richard Lowe that went by the way to the 191 00:09:45,173 --> 00:09:47,813 Speaker 3: overall sort of station going by the way. But you know, 192 00:09:49,132 --> 00:09:52,133 Speaker 3: nothing hasn't been hasn't been bad. None of it's been bloody, 193 00:09:52,173 --> 00:09:56,412 Speaker 3: chemotherapy or anything like actual problems that people are actually facing, 194 00:09:56,852 --> 00:10:01,252 Speaker 3: just you know, just just sort of coasting a long period. Well, now, 195 00:10:01,533 --> 00:10:04,693 Speaker 3: out the back end of that, my awareness of what's 196 00:10:04,732 --> 00:10:08,132 Speaker 3: important and what's great and good in my life has 197 00:10:08,413 --> 00:10:11,693 Speaker 3: risen dramatically. My awareness of what I need to address 198 00:10:11,813 --> 00:10:16,333 Speaker 3: in terms of whether that's relationships past, you know, things 199 00:10:16,333 --> 00:10:19,573 Speaker 3: that have gone roll is also massively increased. That's a 200 00:10:19,573 --> 00:10:21,613 Speaker 3: bit of a double edged sword. But hell, I wouldn't 201 00:10:21,612 --> 00:10:23,252 Speaker 3: swap with the life. You're to take a bed to 202 00:10:23,293 --> 00:10:24,533 Speaker 3: a year for anything? 203 00:10:25,293 --> 00:10:27,893 Speaker 4: Yeah, well, good on you. So, I mean, must feel 204 00:10:27,973 --> 00:10:30,733 Speaker 4: so different to be eighty five kj's when you've been 205 00:10:30,852 --> 00:10:33,933 Speaker 4: one hundred and thirty five dropping fifty kgs. And look, 206 00:10:33,973 --> 00:10:36,772 Speaker 4: I check out that LinkedIn post because it's it's very 207 00:10:36,813 --> 00:10:39,412 Speaker 4: open and honest and good on your Hamish, and thanks 208 00:10:39,453 --> 00:10:40,213 Speaker 4: for talking to us today. 209 00:10:40,293 --> 00:10:42,772 Speaker 2: Yeah, thanks very much, Hamish, and you're certainly looking good. 210 00:10:42,852 --> 00:10:43,012 Speaker 3: Nick. 211 00:10:43,093 --> 00:10:46,612 Speaker 1: Now for more from News Talks B listen live on 212 00:10:46,653 --> 00:10:49,652 Speaker 1: air or online, and keep our shows with you wherever 213 00:10:49,693 --> 00:10:52,253 Speaker 1: you go with our podcast on iHeartRadio.