1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:03,120 Speaker 1: Chinese investment in New Zealand isn't as robust as you 2 00:00:03,200 --> 00:00:05,720 Speaker 1: might think it is, but it is growing sort of. 3 00:00:05,880 --> 00:00:09,080 Speaker 1: A new report from the Chinese Business Council and INSIDIR 4 00:00:09,200 --> 00:00:13,240 Speaker 1: shows China ranks twelfth for direct foreign investment to New Zealand. 5 00:00:13,600 --> 00:00:17,239 Speaker 2: Growth averaged about nine percent a year over the past decade, 6 00:00:17,320 --> 00:00:21,000 Speaker 2: but it has been flattening or declining since COVID. Chris 7 00:00:21,120 --> 00:00:25,120 Speaker 2: Nixon is principal economist at ENSIDII and with me this morning. Morning, Chris, 8 00:00:25,480 --> 00:00:27,600 Speaker 2: good morning. The fact investments. 9 00:00:27,120 --> 00:00:30,440 Speaker 1: Slowing is them not us, right, Like they're not investing 10 00:00:30,480 --> 00:00:31,320 Speaker 1: as much globally. 11 00:00:32,680 --> 00:00:37,160 Speaker 3: I think that's right. But our investment with China is 12 00:00:37,280 --> 00:00:42,360 Speaker 3: also growing rather slowly as well that our trade numbers. 13 00:00:42,920 --> 00:00:45,199 Speaker 1: Yeah, they are our largest trading partner, but then only 14 00:00:45,240 --> 00:00:46,199 Speaker 1: twelfth on investment. 15 00:00:46,320 --> 00:00:49,000 Speaker 2: Is there normally a stronger relationship between the. 16 00:00:48,960 --> 00:00:54,440 Speaker 3: Two well, I mean the problem here is that investment 17 00:00:54,560 --> 00:00:58,840 Speaker 3: is a long term game, and with other countries who 18 00:00:59,440 --> 00:01:03,040 Speaker 3: have traded for Australia, for example, for over one hundred 19 00:01:03,040 --> 00:01:07,119 Speaker 3: and fifty years, they have a much greater advantage than 20 00:01:07,160 --> 00:01:11,280 Speaker 3: the Chinese. Because we've only really been training trading with 21 00:01:11,360 --> 00:01:15,600 Speaker 3: the Chinese for the last twenty years, so you would 22 00:01:15,720 --> 00:01:21,520 Speaker 3: expect that it will take time for the relation to 23 00:01:21,720 --> 00:01:22,479 Speaker 3: ship to build. 24 00:01:22,920 --> 00:01:24,640 Speaker 2: Chris, what do they want to invest in? 25 00:01:26,120 --> 00:01:30,480 Speaker 3: Well, I think they if you look at the spread 26 00:01:30,800 --> 00:01:35,680 Speaker 3: of investments so far, they are investing in almost everything. 27 00:01:37,040 --> 00:01:40,120 Speaker 3: I think there are going to be opportunities for New 28 00:01:40,200 --> 00:01:43,440 Speaker 3: Zealand to invest in China and China to invest in 29 00:01:43,480 --> 00:01:49,720 Speaker 3: New Zealand in all sorts of things like what Well, 30 00:01:50,400 --> 00:01:58,840 Speaker 3: for example, New Zealand has invested in dairy in China, 31 00:01:59,640 --> 00:02:03,600 Speaker 3: also in things such as pet food in New Zealand. 32 00:02:04,240 --> 00:02:10,280 Speaker 3: It's pretty clear that I've invested in consumer goods given 33 00:02:10,600 --> 00:02:15,040 Speaker 3: that twenty one percent of our trade comes from China. 34 00:02:15,919 --> 00:02:19,239 Speaker 1: John McKinnon says we're entering a no stone unturned period 35 00:02:19,280 --> 00:02:23,160 Speaker 1: of investment attraction here and we've seen announcement after announcement 36 00:02:23,160 --> 00:02:28,800 Speaker 1: from the government on you know, basically come here, invest, emigrate, spend, 37 00:02:29,480 --> 00:02:31,400 Speaker 1: We're open for business. Do you think the message is 38 00:02:31,400 --> 00:02:31,920 Speaker 1: getting through? 39 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:36,919 Speaker 3: Well, look, I mean I'm not really that focused on 40 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:42,079 Speaker 3: the short term. I want consistency over the long term. 41 00:02:42,400 --> 00:02:46,880 Speaker 3: We need because it's a long term business. We want 42 00:02:46,960 --> 00:02:51,520 Speaker 3: consistency between as governments change in New Zealand, so our 43 00:02:51,560 --> 00:02:58,079 Speaker 3: bipartisan approach is really important and are consistent bipartisan. 44 00:02:57,639 --> 00:02:59,359 Speaker 2: Approach Do you think we'll get that? 45 00:03:00,520 --> 00:03:04,639 Speaker 3: Well, time will tell, but I mean it's my advice 46 00:03:05,160 --> 00:03:07,640 Speaker 3: as an economist to point this out. 47 00:03:08,360 --> 00:03:09,399 Speaker 2: Message hurdlard and clear. 48 00:03:09,480 --> 00:03:11,800 Speaker 1: Chris Nickson, thanks for your time this morning, principal economists 49 00:03:11,800 --> 00:03:15,120 Speaker 1: at ENZIR and those new numbers this morning. For more 50 00:03:15,160 --> 00:03:18,280 Speaker 1: from Early Edition with Ryan Bridge, listen live to News 51 00:03:18,320 --> 00:03:21,360 Speaker 1: Talks it'd be from five am weekdays, or follow the 52 00:03:21,360 --> 00:03:22,840 Speaker 1: podcast on iHeartRadio