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Speaker 1: Darcy water Graves sports talk hosts as me Darce. Hello, Darcy,

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Speaker 1: you're turning the wrong volume. Knob is the other volume?

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Speaker 2: Knob?

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Speaker 1: Look is that? Yeah, that's the one that's all right?

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Speaker 1: Just helping you out, just lady splaining that to you. Darcy. Hi,

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Speaker 1: it turns out not just the volume nob, but the

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Speaker 1: microphone button, the whole shebang. Hey, listen, what do you

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Speaker 1: make of my man demo starting.

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Speaker 2: Your man demo? Was he your man?

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Speaker 1: He's my man? Because no, he has been my favorite

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Speaker 1: for a long time.

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Speaker 2: I like the fact that t J. Pettinara is starting.

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Speaker 1: And he's not my favorite.

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Speaker 2: Nine Look, we talked about the possibility of moving in

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Speaker 2: as a debutante and taking that position because of the

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Speaker 2: the roles that they have. I think it's probably more

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Speaker 2: of a steadier set of hands in case of crisis.

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Speaker 2: And when it comes to playing the English and Rugby,

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Speaker 2: it's always crisis. You don't know what they're going to do.

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Speaker 2: We don't like getting beaten by them.

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Speaker 1: Ably.

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Speaker 2: I don't think we might getting beaten by South Africa.

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Speaker 2: It's something about getting beaten by England that just really

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Speaker 2: just because we just don't like it. So we don't

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Speaker 2: know what this team is going to bring. It's a

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Speaker 2: very different team to a team that's been playing throughout

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Speaker 2: the Six Nations. Borthwick has established a new method of

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Speaker 2: playing due to the fact that some of the manpower

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Speaker 2: that he had no longer there, so they're changing what

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Speaker 2: they do. I think a lot of the attack will

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Speaker 2: go towards Damien McKenzie. We'll see how settled he is,

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Speaker 2: and I think we saw even though his pack didn't

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Speaker 2: give him the base that he wanted in that Chiefs

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Speaker 2: final against the Blues, he was persona non grated and

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Speaker 2: I wonder if things look at that and go well,

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Speaker 2: But that's if they can get some form of dominance

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Speaker 2: in that pack, and you'd like to think they can.

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Speaker 2: So there is a point maybe with the English well attack.

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Speaker 2: But the standout of all of this is Stephen Betelfie.

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Speaker 1: I was going to ask you about that. Are you

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Speaker 1: surprised by that?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? We thought, even though Boden Barrett hasn't played much football,

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Speaker 2: head end up there in that role and maybe Peter

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Speaker 2: Fifthter would come in off the bench. But as it's

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Speaker 2: been pointed out, he's very good under the high ball.

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Speaker 2: You'd expect a lot of that from the English under

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Speaker 2: the Roof. He's also taking advantage of the fact that

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Speaker 2: Zarn Sullivan out of the blue, so Peter Fifthter made

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Speaker 2: that full back position his own and he grew into

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Speaker 2: that role. He played very well in that role. He's

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Speaker 2: very good on the account attack. He's got a lot

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Speaker 2: more toe than people give him credit for, so I

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Speaker 2: think people are a little like okay, but beyond that,

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Speaker 2: he picked no debutantes Scott Robinson. He's playing a very

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Speaker 2: solid hand in this game. He's got combinations that he

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Speaker 2: knows works. He's got guys that he can trust that

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Speaker 2: are going to listen to. What he's going to do

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Speaker 2: is Luke Jacobson's coming off the beach to cover six,

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Speaker 2: seven and eight. The other team members. People have been

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Speaker 2: talking about a summer Fenna and what he is going

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Speaker 2: to bring as opposed to we talked about yesterday Ethan

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Speaker 2: Blackadder and what brings up. What I like about it

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Speaker 2: is that Sam Penie is an aggressive, aggressive tackler. He

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Speaker 2: loves monstering people a bit like Shanon Frizzelle from back

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Speaker 2: in the day, and they'll be targeting that fly half

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Speaker 2: that young first five Marcus Smith soone said, oh, he's

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Speaker 2: going to have to take it on his back, So no,

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Speaker 2: the target will be on his front because some of

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Speaker 2: he's going to run straight out and straight over him.

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Speaker 1: Does who's been left out of the football Ferns.

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Speaker 2: The goal scoring champion from Wilkinson from back in the day,

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Speaker 2: Remember when she scored that opening goal that really blew

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Speaker 2: the whole World Cup apart and everything. It's our year,

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Speaker 2: here we go and then I think we went pair

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Speaker 2: shaped up after that. There's a couple of other majors there,

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Speaker 2: but I think the Ferns have got a bigger problem

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Speaker 2: than the staff that they've got. They've got that long

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Speaker 2: term issue that Bunyon, that corn on the foot of

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Speaker 2: the team and that is the head coach. Yet give

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Speaker 2: us so who's coaching, who's assistant coach and can't remember

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Speaker 2: his name? But she can't go to the Olympics because

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Speaker 2: obviously the dynamic between her and her team is not

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Speaker 2: good at well, do you want to take them to

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Speaker 2: arguably well one of the two biggest tournaments in global

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Speaker 2: football and there is some kind of disconnect between you

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Speaker 2: and your players.

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Speaker 1: No, no, no, you don't think we're watching the slow

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Speaker 1: exit aren't we? Because you can't keep her around like that.

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Speaker 2: They're slowly falling to the knees and eventually crawling along

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Speaker 2: on their hands, giving it the black Night. Doesn't matter

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Speaker 2: how many injuries they take.

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Speaker 1: That thank you as always for being awesome.

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Speaker 2: That's Darcy water I'm sorry I hit the wrong buttons

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Speaker 2: and plugged in the wrong headphone. I need more staff Immedia.

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