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Speaker 1: The huddle with New Zealand Southeby's International Realty.

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Speaker 2: Find your one of the kind. Tim Wilson, CEO of

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Speaker 2: the Maximum Institute. Good evening, Tim Cura.

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Speaker 3: I hope it's not too triggering for me to say that.

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Speaker 2: No, I know we are in good company here, Rob

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Speaker 2: Campbell at Chancellor and former Healthy and Z and shares

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Speaker 2: with us too. Hey, Rob, good evening to you, Kyoder,

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Speaker 2: good Curra good a mate. What did you make of

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Speaker 2: what Richard Preeoble had to say there, Tim.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's you know, when an organization is starting to

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Speaker 3: repudiate what at the rulings that it made from ten

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Speaker 3: years ago and turning its back on forty years, I

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Speaker 3: think there's an identity issue with that organization. So that

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Speaker 3: critique sort of resonated for me.

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Speaker 1: What about you, Rob, Well, our understanding about these issues

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Speaker 1: has evolved over the last fifty years, and the fact

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Speaker 1: that Richard hasn't probably means he did the right thing

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Speaker 1: by resigning.

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Speaker 2: One of the big it was a serf from you, Rob.

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Speaker 2: One of the big issues that he taught about is

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Speaker 2: Malori's seeding sovereignty and the fact that none of the

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Speaker 2: chiefs in their correspondence post signing the treaty thought that

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Speaker 2: they had done anything other than seed sovereignty. So how

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Speaker 2: did we get to the point where we're now saying,

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Speaker 2: and the tribunal itself is saying, actually, Marty never seated

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Speaker 2: sovereignty to.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and look, I've spoken with his historians who said

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Speaker 3: that Mariya at the time were very clear on what

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Speaker 3: they were succeeding to gain, and there was a there

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Speaker 3: was a discussion of it at Kohimarama like ten years later,

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Speaker 3: and this issue didn't come up. So I find I

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Speaker 3: find this this trope. Yeah, it's it's confusing to me.

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Speaker 2: All Right, guys, we're going to take up a quick

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Speaker 2: break here on the Huddle. We're going to come back

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Speaker 2: and talk about Adrian or I want to get your

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Speaker 2: takes on what you think is going on here. Rob,

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Speaker 2: You've obviously had your fair share of experience with high

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Speaker 2: profile public sector partings, so I'd like to get your

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Speaker 2: take on what you think might be going on here.

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Speaker 2: The Huddle returns Neck Huddle with New Zealand Southeby's International

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Speaker 2: Realty the Ones with local and global reach thirteen to Sex,

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Speaker 2: Tim Wilson and Rob Campbell with me tonight. So Adrian

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Speaker 2: aw is gone. Question is why now he's still got

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Speaker 2: three years more than three years to run on his contract.

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Speaker 2: Seems very odd timing, Rob. What do you make of this?

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Speaker 1: Well, I don't know what deal he did. In fact,

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Speaker 1: I'm completely unburdened by any inside information on this, so

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Speaker 1: I can speak and would guess. Is this that because

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Speaker 1: Adrian is a bit of a fighter, so he wouldn't

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Speaker 1: naturally just have said, oh you think I should move,

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Speaker 1: I will. So I think this is hard for you

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Speaker 1: to imagine, but I pictured myself as being Nikola willis

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Speaker 1: probably a bit hard for her as well. But anyway,

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Speaker 1: if I was here, I don't like Adrian or I'm

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Speaker 1: not sure how he's going to behave as I go

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Speaker 1: through this next couple of years, and I actually would

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Speaker 1: quite like him to go. But I don't have the

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Speaker 1: powder tell him to go. What I do the power

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Speaker 1: to do is to talk to the board. And I

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Speaker 1: think if the board started to waver about whether they

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Speaker 1: were supportive of Adrian, that would be much harder for

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Speaker 1: him to stay. So here's my speculation. I think the

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Speaker 1: Nats wanted him to go. I think they tooked to

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Speaker 1: people who they feel influential was on the board, and

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Speaker 1: why wouldn't they be influential on the board they appoint them,

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Speaker 1: and he got a bit of a wobble there and

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Speaker 1: decided it was better to leave discretion the better part.

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Speaker 2: Of valor interesting because I thought initially I thought he's

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Speaker 2: got a new job and we're just waiting to hear

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Speaker 2: about it, and there's some confidentiality thing going on. But

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Speaker 2: maybe because it's interesting, you talk about Nicola, Willis not

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Speaker 2: liking him, wanting to get rid of him. Another way

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Speaker 2: to go about that would be to put the squeeze

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Speaker 2: on the finance. And you know the budget's coming, you're sitting,

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Speaker 2: you new you're sitting in new appropriations. Maybe you put

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Speaker 2: the squeeze on that way. Maybe he's got wind and

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Speaker 2: he's out before it gets too hard.

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Speaker 3: Tim Yeah, yeah, look, maybe that's And I'm still trying

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Speaker 3: to get the image of Rob Campbell wearing a pants

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Speaker 3: suit out of my head. It's very, very pretty disturbing,

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Speaker 3: all right, And I know it's clarifying for me. But

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Speaker 3: you raised the issue, and since since we're doing theories,

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Speaker 3: you said, I hope he's all right physically, because this

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Speaker 3: would have been like this cone of silence around it,

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Speaker 3: and I certainly do hope he's all right. But I

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Speaker 3: think you know, what was interesting to me was that

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Speaker 3: that's sort of like I've done. You know, I've done.

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Speaker 3: Things are going well, I can go now. But I mean,

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Speaker 3: this is someone who a leading economist in twenty twenty

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Speaker 3: one said he overcooked the stimulus by ninety percent. So

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Speaker 3: you know, it's ash Wednesday today. Forgiveness is offered, but

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Speaker 3: a little repentance might be helpful.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, hey, just finally, recycling bin inspectors are going to

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Speaker 2: be fitted with body cameras. This is to stop them

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Speaker 2: being abused on the job.

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Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 2: I don't obviously, I don't know one tolerates abuse towards

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Speaker 2: anyone who's just trying to do their job. But there

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Speaker 2: is something It's like, It's like if somebody was to

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Speaker 2: put a camera in the toilet, you know that it's

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Speaker 2: someone going through your rubbish. It is something very personal

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Speaker 2: and unsettling about it, isn't the.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, good luck to them sorting out the way

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Speaker 1: I recycle.

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Speaker 2: At least you're honest.

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Speaker 3: Well, you'd lose it, you'd be a three strikes guy.

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Speaker 3: Just like that. I reckon.

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Speaker 1: And everyone. Everyone in the country is going to have

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Speaker 1: to wear a body cam, aren't they? When you go

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Speaker 1: shoving at the supermarket or wherever you go, We're all

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Speaker 1: going to have to have body cams to prove that

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Speaker 1: we didn't do something and appropriate to someone else. Look,

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Speaker 1: I really don't know about recycling, but in fact most

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Speaker 1: recyclings are fraud anyway. Yeah, so I can't get very

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Speaker 1: excited about it.

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Speaker 3: That's so true. Your fifty seven percent of packaging and

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Speaker 3: recycling is actually not recyclable. It's a different grade of plastic,

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Speaker 3: and of the remaining plastic it's recyclable, forty one percent

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Speaker 3: of that's thrown away by recycling centers because we can't

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Speaker 3: recycle it. It's a waste of time.

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Speaker 1: Great, bring on acidly. I don't know if you can

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Speaker 1: recycle body cameras either, they're probably quite not.

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Speaker 3: Can you recycle pantsuits?

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Speaker 2: Very good? Tim Wilson and Rob Campbell, thanks for being

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Speaker 2: with us, guys. Take it easy out there and don't

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Speaker 2: forget not to recycle.

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