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Speaker 1: Busy wee week of sports. So the sports huddleways in

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Speaker 1: Clay Wilson's with US newstalk ZMB sports news director. Hey,

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Speaker 1: Clay A right, welcome to the show. And Jim Cases

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Speaker 1: with US sports journalists. Hey Jim, good to talk to you.

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Speaker 2: Oh, great to talk to you, mate.

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Speaker 1: I hope you will very well and hoping that you're

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Speaker 1: well too. And let's start with Liam Lawson. What an

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Speaker 1: awesome end to what has been a protracted suspicion of

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Speaker 2: Jim, that's pretty fantastic, isn't it. I think a lot

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Speaker 2: of New Zealanders won't really understand or appreciate perhaps the

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Speaker 2: gravitas of what's happened, but formerly one, It's just massive,

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Speaker 2: isn't it. It's the elite of motorsport and to have

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Speaker 2: a New Zealander driving and that is quite incredible. Really,

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Speaker 2: you know where it sits in the pecking order of

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Speaker 2: all those sorts of things which we all always to do.

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Speaker 2: I don't really know, but you just have to take

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Speaker 2: your head off to him. It's an example of perseverance

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Speaker 2: and talent and opportunity, and good on him, you know.

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Speaker 2: I hope I hope he really succeeds. It's it's great

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Speaker 2: and we get sort of that reflected glory from it, Ryan,

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Speaker 2: don't we were it's so cool seeing a Kiwi succeed

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Speaker 2: It's a it's a it's a wonderful, wonderful story.

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Speaker 1: It is And what's cool about it, Clay is to

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Speaker 1: a couple of the sort of industry guys about it

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Speaker 1: today that the reason he was packed over the Japanese

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Speaker 1: he's got way more potential. He's basically driving as fast

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think that's what's by a lot of

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Speaker 3: people that have been kind of promoting Yuki Snoda and

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Speaker 3: and that's the big thing about this. They're putting him

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Speaker 3: you know, the best driver of this generation. It's a huge,

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Speaker 3: huge moment for a kid from Pukakoe to make it

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Speaker 1: Red Bull finishes the year third place, seventy seven behind

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Speaker 3: It's a brutal, but this is Formula one. It's bread's

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Speaker 3: brutal and its right place, right time. And you know

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Speaker 3: last year Liam got a shot as an injury replacement,

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Speaker 1: Jim. The sports people have been quite upset. We had

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Speaker 2: What do you reckon, oh, Ryan, Like, I don't know,

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Speaker 2: maybe I'm showing my generation. I just I struggle with it.

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Speaker 2: You know, is is chess? Is scrabble? Are they sports?

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Speaker 2: Is esport a sport? What what constitutes a sport? Should

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Speaker 2: I don't think that esports should be getting funded in.

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Speaker 3: The way that around the bush.

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Speaker 2: I know it.

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Speaker 1: Saying it, I just I just don't.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's interesting one, isn't it, Because then you look

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Speaker 3: We've had this discussion about this topic this week, and

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Speaker 3: I think the thing is you can you don't want

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Speaker 3: And this is that opinion thing, right, Like Jim said,

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Speaker 3: like what is sport? Everyone has a different definition really

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Speaker 3: of a game. It's a hobby. But you can still

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Speaker 1: Else to you. And plus it's the cost involved. I mean,

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Speaker 3: That's probably partly to do with how the Breakers have

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Speaker 3: was actually wondering about this, how it works with remuneration

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Speaker 3: So how does that all work? I'm not really sure,

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Speaker 2: And Ryan, let's not dodge the fact that for a

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Speaker 2: it has got no bearing whatsoever, and it's really just

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Speaker 1: And also if you've got the sport on, then you

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Speaker 1: I'm Ryan Bridge, Clay Wilson News talksb Sports News director

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Speaker 1: on the Huddle with Jim Kay's sports journalist. Guys, let's

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Speaker 1: wrap up with your look back at twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 1: Jim will start with you your sporting highlight and low light

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Speaker 1: for the year.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's hard to pick one, Ryan, you know, as

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Speaker 2: their World Cup and Black Caps beating India in a series.

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Speaker 2: to be Lesser Carington, Dame Lisa Carrington. I'm a big

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Clay, who would be your well, what would be

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Speaker 3: how emotional lydia Co was receiving that gold medal. And

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Speaker 3: not to say she is not an emotional person or

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Speaker 3: she you know, she hasn't felt you know, pride and

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Speaker 3: a lot of the success she's had, but you just

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Speaker 3: don't often see someone like her like that, and she

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Speaker 3: was so she was clearly so moved by it being

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Speaker 3: up being able to be up there and we're in

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Speaker 3: New Zealand, fern and that kind of thing. Lowlights, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I don't know if there was, There was heaps. Here

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Speaker 3: was probably a few bits and PC ones the one

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Speaker 3: that sort of I'll look back on and wish it didn't.

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Speaker 3: Everyone was sort of the Warriors falling off, you know,

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Speaker 3: because that's for me these days, Like you know, I've

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Speaker 3: really I've always been a Warriors fan, but you know,

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Speaker 3: in terms of their success recently, you get right in

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Speaker 3: behind them. Had such a great twenty twenty three and

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Speaker 3: then this year has sort of kind of been disappointing.

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Speaker 3: We've lost a few players, Shawn Johnson getting injured and

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Speaker 3: then retiring in that kind of thing. And I guess

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Speaker 3: that you look back at the all black start to

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Speaker 3: the year, I remember at the time thinking, wow, this

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Speaker 3: is like hasn't started well at all for Scott Robertson

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Speaker 3: has it? But obviously things improved there. So I think

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Speaker 3: in terms of highlights versus lowlights, much more of a

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Speaker 3: positive year for Kiwi sport than a negative.

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Speaker 1: Jim, we have about thirty seconds for your lowlight if

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Speaker 1: you've got one.

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Speaker 2: Look, I agree with play New Zealand All Blecks losing

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Speaker 2: to Argentina not a great performance and the Warriors fantastic

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Speaker 2: home ground support just not able to match it. So

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Speaker 2: you know, in a year of huge success for New

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Speaker 2: Zealand sport, I think we should celebrate those because the

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Speaker 2: lowlights don't really matter. Amazing Olympics and an All Blecks

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Speaker 2: team on the rise and some great cricket results.

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Speaker 1: So been a good year, right, more ups than downs.

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Speaker 1: The other lowlight? The only other lowlight I would mention

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Speaker 1: would be the River sin that was disgusting seven minutes

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Speaker 1: away from sex. Jim Kay's on with Clay Wilson here

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Speaker 1: from News Talk SEDB.

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