WEBVTT - Kent Johns: There is a wrong way to set goals

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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to the Weekend Collective podcast from News Talks be.

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<v Speaker 2>And welcome back to the show. This is the Weekend Collective.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm Tim Beverage Bob the way, if you missed the

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<v Speaker 2>Right now it is time for the Health and we

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<v Speaker 2>want your calls. I WA one hundred eighty ten eighty

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<v Speaker 2>text two and joining me in the studio from Kent

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<v Speaker 2>John's Health is hardly did a drum roll. Imagine if

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<v Speaker 2>it wasn't Kent John's, you've brought some stuff on it

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<v Speaker 2>with someone else. But anyways, Kent John's high.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, in three or four or five years, you never know.

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<v Speaker 3>But at the moment.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just me, Yeah, sadly, good to see you, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>But by the way, loving the Olympics, are you.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, yeah. It always takes me two or three

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<v Speaker 3>days just to warm until it start to get the routine.

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<v Speaker 3>But and then you're hooked once. Once you hooked, and

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<v Speaker 3>then of course you gets sad when it's over.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm not looking forward to that, but of course

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<v Speaker 2>we're still it loves to look forward to because we've

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<v Speaker 2>got our We've got Lisa Carrington and Amy Fisher and

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<v Speaker 2>the K two, the K four, the K one or

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<v Speaker 2>you know, we've got all that stuff to come. But

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<v Speaker 2>the track and field, to me, that.

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<v Speaker 3>Is it's always the best.

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<v Speaker 2>The stadium looks magnificent and I love the color purple.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's been great. I watched the men's ten thousand yesterday.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh that was okay.

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<v Speaker 3>I believe these guys ten k in twenty was at

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<v Speaker 3>twenty six minutes and.

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<v Speaker 2>The kick at the kick the guy who won had

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<v Speaker 2>at the end.

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<v Speaker 3>It's astonished. It's mind bogglingly fast to go at that pace.

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<v Speaker 3>If most of us couldn't do one that quick.

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<v Speaker 2>I reckon we'd struggle to do two hundred meters at

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<v Speaker 2>their pace. I agree, Yeah, that would be sad. I

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<v Speaker 2>mention that just all you have to do term is

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<v Speaker 2>sprint for two hundred meters and keep up with them and.

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<v Speaker 3>Like it's astonishingly fast and you get you get goosebumps

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<v Speaker 3>watching them at the end. The crowd's going ape and

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<v Speaker 3>like the French crowd. I mean, they're as good as

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<v Speaker 3>anyone at rousing for an occasion, aren't they. And these

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<v Speaker 3>guys are just tuning around with two hundred four hundred

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<v Speaker 3>to go and you're finding yourself getting God, I didn't

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<v Speaker 3>even care who won. I didn't know any of the athletes,

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<v Speaker 3>but I was just the adrenaline was surging.

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<v Speaker 2>I think we were looking for those wonderful moments of inspiration.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's the drama of it all, isn't it. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean there are a couple of guys who were

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<v Speaker 2>disqualified from the one hundred meters because they broke I

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<v Speaker 2>saw that last night, and it's it's brutal. It's brutal

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<v Speaker 2>because they've trained, and they've trained, here's the Olympics, and.

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<v Speaker 3>But what is to happen? You know why they changed

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<v Speaker 3>it from having one.

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<v Speaker 2>Because people were trying to anticipate the guns and.

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<v Speaker 3>They were doing it strategically. Yeah, oh break yeplaying playing

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<v Speaker 3>silly buggers with their opponents. That's right, and actually, well,

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<v Speaker 3>so they had to do it. And in the case

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<v Speaker 3>like that, he's seen the guy next to him twitch,

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<v Speaker 3>so he's off, but the gun never went, so he

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<v Speaker 3>has to go.

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<v Speaker 2>I actually one of my favorite things was watching Zoey

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<v Speaker 2>Hobbs having her go it. And I know that, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>we get hung up on medals and all that sort

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<v Speaker 2>of thing, but I'm not sure that I'm not sure

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<v Speaker 2>that everyone really under understands the amazing achievement of her

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<v Speaker 2>becoming what the only athlete under eleven seconds in Oceania,

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<v Speaker 2>but making a semi final, even she is a phenomenal athlete,

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<v Speaker 2>and I just think and I felt for her too,

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<v Speaker 2>because if she had executed a better race, she would

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<v Speaker 2>have had a time that would have got her in

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<v Speaker 2>the finale, which would have been just to be there.

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<v Speaker 3>It's the only time a sports fans we get hooked

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<v Speaker 3>up on who gets third, and it's only because they

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<v Speaker 3>give out medals. And I think about Erica Feir, weare

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<v Speaker 3>the finishing fourth. Well, the three I think I'm right

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<v Speaker 3>in saying that the three that beat her are the

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<v Speaker 3>fastest three athletes in that discipline of all time.

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<v Speaker 2>In fact, I think too.

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<v Speaker 3>Fourth at the Olympics in that event is tremendous achievement,

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<v Speaker 3>but it will get overlooked because she didn't meddle.

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<v Speaker 2>And actually, I think funny enough you mentioned it. And

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<v Speaker 2>while we're sort of doing a bit of retro Kent

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<v Speaker 2>John's on Sport here to Beverage on Sport, we're going

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<v Speaker 2>to get into the topic. But just the two of

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<v Speaker 2>my favorite moments were actually when we won silver. I

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<v Speaker 2>loved the response of Emma Tweig to her to the

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<v Speaker 2>woman who beat her in the women's single skulls, the

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<v Speaker 2>camaraderie and the Hagen and the appreciation and the warmth

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<v Speaker 2>and generosity of spirit, and Hayden Wild as well he

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<v Speaker 2>got silver, and his response to alex Y and to

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<v Speaker 2>his teammate who had helped draft him in the cycling

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<v Speaker 2>to get him back up up in gold medal contention.

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<v Speaker 2>That was amazing.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that was tremendous sports. I didn't see Twig last

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<v Speaker 3>night because I was out, but I heard about it,

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<v Speaker 3>but I saw Wild and I just couldn't belie he

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<v Speaker 3>didn't win that race.

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<v Speaker 2>You're still in denial.

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<v Speaker 3>I can the guy that chased him down alex Ye,

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<v Speaker 3>you're a runner, Tim You're a runner. I know you're

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<v Speaker 3>not a triathlete, but you were a runner. To think that,

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<v Speaker 3>to think that alex Ye hung in there, he was

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<v Speaker 3>hurting because Wild pretty much broke him, right, he broke him.

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<v Speaker 3>But to hang in there in the hope, the desperate

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<v Speaker 3>hope that I might have a kick at the end,

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<v Speaker 3>and he found it. So Wild had the almost the

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<v Speaker 3>perfect race plan and to get piped at the end

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<v Speaker 3>would have been heartbreaking for him, but it was a

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<v Speaker 3>spectacular finish.

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<v Speaker 2>And the reason we talk about the Olympics is one

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<v Speaker 2>because we both love it and they're on right now

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<v Speaker 2>and our commentary team at ZB doing a magnificent job

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<v Speaker 2>with all that fantastic sports gennoes. So you should keep

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<v Speaker 2>up with the coverage on on ZB as well and

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<v Speaker 2>on gold Sport. But because out of the Olympics, sometimes

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<v Speaker 2>we decide, you know, it's an inspiring time to set goals.

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<v Speaker 2>And so the first question I've got Kent, is setting

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<v Speaker 2>a goal when you decide that something you need to

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<v Speaker 2>change something in your life and you need a fitness

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<v Speaker 2>goal and effect, is the goal the point or is

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<v Speaker 2>there some other way to get yourself exercising so you

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<v Speaker 2>don't ruin it for yourself, because a lot of people

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<v Speaker 2>go I've got the grand ambitions and they decide they

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<v Speaker 2>want to get running, so they go out and they

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<v Speaker 2>give themselves a miserable experience and about a week later

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<v Speaker 2>they've given it up because that sucked. So is there

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<v Speaker 2>an art or is there a science or just some

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<v Speaker 2>sensible good advice on how you should set goals? Probably

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<v Speaker 2>sensible good advice.

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<v Speaker 3>There's definitely science, is there. There's definitely science. I don't

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<v Speaker 3>think there's an art to it. I think if there

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<v Speaker 3>was an art, it's trial and error by figuring it

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<v Speaker 3>out for yourself. So I don't think there is an

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<v Speaker 3>art to it, but there's certainly some science behind behavioral change,

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<v Speaker 3>and exercise is a great example of how to make

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<v Speaker 3>change in our lives where we're thinking, you know, I

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<v Speaker 3>want to make some adjustments because often particularly around our fitness, body,

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<v Speaker 3>body composition and shape, and we're conscious of how we look. Vanity, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>there's vanity a reason it does play. But we often

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<v Speaker 3>I must do this, or I should do this, or

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<v Speaker 3>I need to do this. But do we ever ask ourselves,

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<v Speaker 3>why is it important that I do this? Why really

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<v Speaker 3>can I sit down just for a few minutes and

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<v Speaker 3>ask myself, why is it important I go to the gym?

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<v Speaker 3>That is, why is it important that I try and

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<v Speaker 3>run five k's.

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<v Speaker 2>Because I was if I look back at my own

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<v Speaker 2>By the way, you can give Kent a call anytime,

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<v Speaker 2>I know one hundred and eighty ten and eight if

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<v Speaker 2>you want to, if you want some advice on changing

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<v Speaker 2>your life, getting fit, getting healthy, changing the game that

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<v Speaker 2>you're playing, whether you're sitting on the couch, eating too

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<v Speaker 2>much takeaways and just and your version of exercises, getting

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<v Speaker 2>on the esports. But so, but just from my own

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<v Speaker 2>point of view, the pattern I've had in my life

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<v Speaker 2>is usually okay, when you're young, I played volleyball competitively,

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<v Speaker 2>and you got fit because you wanted to win a tournament.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's hard later on when you are just keeping

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<v Speaker 2>fit for keeping fits sake. And I gravitated from one

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<v Speaker 2>form of exercise going to the gym to this to that,

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<v Speaker 2>boxing to this, and I never kept it up. But

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<v Speaker 2>the one thing I have kept up in the last

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<v Speaker 2>few years, at least for four years now is running.

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<v Speaker 2>And actually can't work out why I know. I do

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<v Speaker 2>sort of know why I do it, But I'm quite

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<v Speaker 2>curious as to how I've managed to make this form

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<v Speaker 2>of exercise last when I maybe had other fads where

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<v Speaker 2>I came and went.

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<v Speaker 3>But I know why you keep running because we've talked

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<v Speaker 3>about this before.

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<v Speaker 2>Tell me, because I think I've lost track of it.

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<v Speaker 3>But you know it's good for you. You feel great afterwards,

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<v Speaker 3>and you enjoy it, and so you keep coming back

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<v Speaker 3>to it, and so.

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<v Speaker 2>You're the habit too. There's it is a habit, I think,

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<v Speaker 2>all right.

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<v Speaker 3>So you don't have to kind of think as hard

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<v Speaker 3>about why you're doing it as someone who isn't doing

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<v Speaker 3>it who would aspire to do it. So the why

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<v Speaker 3>comes at the start. It's the first question we should

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<v Speaker 3>ask ourselves when it comes to goal setting or behavior

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<v Speaker 3>or change. Why am I doing this?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay?

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<v Speaker 3>Weight loss is another classic example where people say I

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<v Speaker 3>need to lose weight. Okay, great, great aspiration? What is

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<v Speaker 3>important about losing weight that will help just get you

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<v Speaker 3>into the behavior of That's an interesting team. And it

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<v Speaker 3>might be because that shit's scared to have a heart

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<v Speaker 3>attack at fifty five because they lost their father young,

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<v Speaker 3>or it could be because they want they want to

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<v Speaker 3>be an active dad, or they want to be fit

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<v Speaker 3>and healthy grandfather, and they want to be flexible and

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<v Speaker 3>moving get down on the ground with the grandkids. There's

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<v Speaker 3>a million reasons, but just to say I want to

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<v Speaker 3>lose weight is often not enough, so we have to

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<v Speaker 3>be a little bit more specific with what we want

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<v Speaker 3>to do.

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<v Speaker 2>Actually, the losing weight is an interesting one because I

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<v Speaker 2>think I partly exercise because I don't want to gain weight,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's actually not I'm not. Actually I feel the

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<v Speaker 2>psychology of how I feel about myself has instantly changed

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<v Speaker 2>by exercise, even if I haven't lost five pounds or whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>It's because I've gone for the run and I go, well,

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<v Speaker 2>I feel good. I don't you know, do I worry

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<v Speaker 2>about how I look naked?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes?

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<v Speaker 2>Probably, yes, probably, let's be honest. But it's your perception

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<v Speaker 2>of yours, of the way you your perception of the

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<v Speaker 2>way you appear, changes just by the act of exercising anyway,

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<v Speaker 2>does it? Does it? Or is that just me? I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know A few.

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<v Speaker 3>You've obviously got mirrors at home.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, yeah, I mean that's the thing. We've redonated bathroom.

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<v Speaker 2>We're a hugely spectacular mirror and I must have met.

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<v Speaker 2>I think when I'm shaving, if I'm just sit standing

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<v Speaker 2>there after a shower, I do suck it in a bit,

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<v Speaker 2>just for my own safe.

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<v Speaker 3>Anyway, we won't like a mate of mine who played

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<v Speaker 3>rugby for years and every tie. He's a big lock

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<v Speaker 3>forward and he probably carried a little bit too much

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<v Speaker 3>around his middle, and he would say when it was

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<v Speaker 3>time for the photos, he'd say, suck it in, boys,

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<v Speaker 3>and I latched the ebects for the photo.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's quite a good air exercise anyway, it's

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<v Speaker 2>sucking it? Is that a workout? And I think I

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<v Speaker 2>sucked my gut? And just as you were chatting there,

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<v Speaker 2>what okay, let's say here's an interesting question. I think

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<v Speaker 2>it is you'd be the judge on one hundred and

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<v Speaker 2>eighty ten eighty, So you did the for instance, is

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<v Speaker 2>an exercise thing that you did where you used to

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<v Speaker 2>go for cold swims. Yes, and I don't know if

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<v Speaker 2>you're still doing it. But what was your why for that?

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<v Speaker 3>Because that's a really good question. Because I was curious

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<v Speaker 3>about whether I could cope with it.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, it's a personal chance.

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<v Speaker 3>It was a personal challenge. I tapped into the growth

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<v Speaker 3>mindset and I thought, well, you're wanting to shy away

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<v Speaker 3>from this, but the benefits, the scientific benefits are enormous.

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<v Speaker 3>So I read about it, I researched it, and thought,

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<v Speaker 3>you know what, what have I got to lose. I'm

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<v Speaker 3>going to give this a crack. So my why was

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<v Speaker 3>a little challenge to myself to establish whether I was

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<v Speaker 3>someone that could adopt this as a habit or whether

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<v Speaker 3>it was I was someone who would run a mile

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<v Speaker 3>from it.

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<v Speaker 2>And okay, what was your first expence?

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<v Speaker 3>Surprise myself, I actually quite enjoy it.

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<v Speaker 2>You still do it? Yeah? Oh you're crazy? Actually, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>so you did it. You overcame the challenge. You persist

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<v Speaker 2>in doing it because what.

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<v Speaker 3>Because I noticed the benefits from doing it. So then

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<v Speaker 3>you come back into feeling great about what it is

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<v Speaker 3>that you're doing. So your brain goes right. The reward

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<v Speaker 3>center in your brain says, hey, I'm going to bank

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<v Speaker 3>where that I know where I feel good and make

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<v Speaker 3>sure I come back to it, which is what you

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<v Speaker 3>experience with your runners high, when you've got the endorphins

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<v Speaker 3>going and all of the neurotransmitters in your brain are

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<v Speaker 3>lighting up and you feel great afterwards. It's the same

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<v Speaker 3>when you go for a cold swim, it's a challenge

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<v Speaker 3>at the time you're putting your body. It's a process

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<v Speaker 3>of whole mesis. So it's stressful, stressful on your body,

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<v Speaker 3>stressful on your mind. You're having a little bit of

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<v Speaker 3>self talk, but the benefits come afterwards. So then you

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<v Speaker 3>soak up all of that great stuff and that's enough

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<v Speaker 3>to make you go back and do it again.

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<v Speaker 2>Good on you, by the way, you are looking in

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<v Speaker 2>pretty good shape. So as far as an advertisement for

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<v Speaker 2>Kent John's health, he's looking good. So the proof of

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<v Speaker 2>the pudding there.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, the proof of the pudding is the proof of

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<v Speaker 3>the putting. That is probably the wrong metaphor, I think, Well,

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<v Speaker 3>the proof of the pudding is normally the check up

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<v Speaker 3>with the doc. Oh really, he can look healthy and

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<v Speaker 3>not be. So I'm pretty vigilant to make sure that

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<v Speaker 3>I'm okay. I'm ticking over.

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<v Speaker 4>You know what.

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<v Speaker 2>You obviously you have clients who you coach into better

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<v Speaker 2>health outcomes and all that. Do you how often do

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<v Speaker 2>they come to you with a goal and end up

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<v Speaker 2>changing it? Because I mean, you're not going to tell

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<v Speaker 2>anyone what do you try and nudge them in the

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<v Speaker 2>right direction? I guess, But what are some examples of

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<v Speaker 2>goals where it's like, well, we're going to need to

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<v Speaker 2>break that down a bit, because I think I've got one.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, you young guy. I was coaching a few months

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<v Speaker 3>ago and we were chatting away about a few different things,

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<v Speaker 3>and he wanted to change what he was eating because

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<v Speaker 3>he was feeling like he was a bit out of shape.

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<v Speaker 3>And then I said, okay, what next? And then we

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<v Speaker 3>went on to some exercise. I said, right, what is

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<v Speaker 3>it you want to be doing? He said, oh, I

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<v Speaker 3>think I'm one of those people I need to have

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<v Speaker 3>an event to train for.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I said, great, Yeah, that's a goal. Great, what events

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<v Speaker 3>have you got coming up? Because again, you have to

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<v Speaker 3>be specific. You've got to keep breaking the stuff down.

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<v Speaker 3>And he figured out there was a ten k run

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<v Speaker 3>where he was living in two or three months time.

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<v Speaker 3>I said, okay, so that's the goal to run ten

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<v Speaker 3>k's And let's say it was two months. I think

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<v Speaker 3>it was about two months. Right, when are you going

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<v Speaker 3>for your first run? He said? This week? I said, okay,

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<v Speaker 3>And what likelihood will you be able to run ten

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<v Speaker 3>ks on Tuesday? He said not probably none. I said, okay,

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<v Speaker 3>So what's the plan?

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<v Speaker 2>And it wouldn't be wise to have attempted it either, So.

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<v Speaker 3>What's the plan? So he decided to go for two

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<v Speaker 3>and a half k. Then the next week I think

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<v Speaker 3>he got up to three point four or three point eight,

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<v Speaker 3>and then the next week he was at five. So

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<v Speaker 3>after by the third run he was at five k's.

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<v Speaker 3>After that's after two weeks. That's quite good, isn't it,

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<v Speaker 3>And just building up, building up, building ups until he

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<v Speaker 3>could get to ten. So here's a great word to

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<v Speaker 3>use if you're unsure about yourself, and it is the

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<v Speaker 3>word yet. And so listen to the difference here to

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<v Speaker 3>him in the two context, tim, I can't run ten k's.

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<v Speaker 3>I can't run ten k's yet. Yeah, see the difference.

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<v Speaker 3>You've gone from a fixed mindset to a growth mindset

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<v Speaker 3>with a use of one word.

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<v Speaker 2>Actually, I was just thinking, you've got to be kind

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<v Speaker 2>to yourself. That probably everyone who's listening thinking, would I

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<v Speaker 2>even want to run ten k? I think that's and

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<v Speaker 2>that's the thing. It's just choosing the goal that you

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<v Speaker 2>want to do, of course, as well as opposed to

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<v Speaker 2>I should I should do this?

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<v Speaker 3>I want to run ten k In twenty seven minutes

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<v Speaker 3>like the Olympians yesterday. Far out far out was it?

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<v Speaker 3>What was the time? Was it?

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<v Speaker 2>Twenty seven minute?

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<v Speaker 3>Astonishing? So that's astonishing. But my point is he was

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<v Speaker 3>a young guy who in the first month no chance

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<v Speaker 3>to run ten k's, but after four or five weeks

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<v Speaker 3>he could do it. He could do it because he

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<v Speaker 3>broke it down. He started by the way the twenties.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, okay, the probably for us forty ok.

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<v Speaker 3>But let's go back to five k. Let's let's say

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<v Speaker 3>you're forty eight years old and you haven't run for years,

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<v Speaker 3>and all of a sudden you've got an itch to

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<v Speaker 3>do a five k park run. Start with five hundred.

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<v Speaker 2>Meters, yeah, or a walk even or a walk.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a run walk. There's many ways in which you

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<v Speaker 3>can get there.

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<v Speaker 2>Actually, when I started mine, people have heard this before,

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<v Speaker 2>so I won't take too long. But I followed some

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<v Speaker 2>walk program ex It was building up to doing a

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<v Speaker 2>half hour run, and it started with I think the

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<v Speaker 2>first thing was maybe not even any running, it was

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<v Speaker 2>just walking, and then you do a minute run and

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<v Speaker 2>a three minute walk, and then you run for a

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<v Speaker 2>bit longer. It just built it up slowly, brilliant and

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<v Speaker 2>it's still funny enough. I still did Macalfe, still did

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<v Speaker 2>Macalves a couple of times because it just took a

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<v Speaker 2>while from my body to get used to it. But

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<v Speaker 2>then again, by then I was like, I just got

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<v Speaker 2>to get over this and drey and keep moving. And

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<v Speaker 2>now I don't worry about it. But I guess it's

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<v Speaker 2>just getting the right of us. You don't blow a

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<v Speaker 2>food food straight away technical word. Anyway, we want to

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<v Speaker 2>have your calls I e. One hundred and eighty ten

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<v Speaker 2>eight you any questions for Kent John's. You've got a goal,

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<v Speaker 2>you want to get into it, and you're concerned whether

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<v Speaker 2>it's the right goal or the wrong goal, or the

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<v Speaker 2>right why or the wrong why, or if you've got

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<v Speaker 2>an example you want to share with us on how

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<v Speaker 2>I think the probably the biggest challenge for people who

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<v Speaker 2>want to get fit is when you feel you've let

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<v Speaker 1>Property, Parenting, Politics plus health, money and the week's figure issues.

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<v Speaker 1>It's all on the Weekend Collector with Tim Beveridge used talksb.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, my guest is Kent John's from Kent John's Health,

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<v Speaker 2>talking about getting started, basically setting a goal. Are there

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<v Speaker 2>some goals that are unhelpful or helpful? Actually, let's have

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<v Speaker 2>a look at a couple of texts. I've got a

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<v Speaker 2>question about. I think there'll be a lot of people

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<v Speaker 2>I'll hold that thought actually got Hi, guys, this is

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<v Speaker 2>so interesting. Used toill love competitive sport, but the only

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<v Speaker 2>thing that got me running was that in I'm was

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<v Speaker 2>that in an older dad. I'm an older dad and

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<v Speaker 2>I really don't want my laziness stopping me coach or

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<v Speaker 2>play with the kids, which is a great, Well, that's

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<v Speaker 2>a great Why isn't it being active for your kids?

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<v Speaker 3>And you know what, it's not that that person will

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<v Speaker 3>be lazy. They're probably low on energy. That's what it'll be.

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<v Speaker 3>There's no I don't know anyone who's lazy.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, let's deal with that question because we touched it.

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<v Speaker 2>We had a bit of a chat on the break

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<v Speaker 2>about this. But I think there are a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>issues where people think I'd love to give that a

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<v Speaker 2>game but I've left it too late or let myself go,

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<v Speaker 2>and you just you've gotten into this habit you're used

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<v Speaker 2>to not exercising you and you just feel I just

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<v Speaker 2>can't see the way ahead because I'm in a really

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<v Speaker 2>bad way.

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<v Speaker 3>Very common, Yeah, very common. Happens all the time. I've

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<v Speaker 3>coached many people, many people now who have been in

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<v Speaker 3>that position, and the great thing is they reached out

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<v Speaker 3>and in this my case, they came to me. But

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<v Speaker 3>it would be good if I'd reached out to anybody.

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<v Speaker 3>So just making a start is the way to go.

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<v Speaker 3>But in so many cases, tim and it might be

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<v Speaker 3>counterintuitive for people to think this is the case. But

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<v Speaker 3>if if you're down on energy and you're feeling you're

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<v Speaker 3>feeling lazy, or you're labeling yourself as lazy, it'll be

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<v Speaker 3>because you don't have the energy. Okay, so you don't

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<v Speaker 3>have the energy, you don't have the inclination to exercise.

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<v Speaker 3>You're not wanting to move, You're not wanting to go

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<v Speaker 3>out an exercise, even though so I should, I must,

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<v Speaker 3>I really need to, but inherently you don't want to.

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<v Speaker 3>And the reason why is because you don't have the energy.

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<v Speaker 3>So if you want to be someone who's fit and

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<v Speaker 3>active and who moves more, eat better food. Things will

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<v Speaker 3>change for you.

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<v Speaker 2>So don't even think about the exercise.

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<v Speaker 3>Don't worry about that.

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<v Speaker 2>Stress the diet first. Yes, okay, So if you're talking

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<v Speaker 2>to someone who's starting from that point, what advice do

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<v Speaker 2>you give them?

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<v Speaker 3>Cut out process food, cut out sugar, see what happens,

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<v Speaker 3>Really can do it for two weeks all sugar, or

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<v Speaker 3>just yeah, see what happens.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't have a biscuit. Yeah that sounds tough.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I that's what I did and look at worked

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<v Speaker 3>for me, and I've seen it work for many people. However,

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<v Speaker 3>it also doesn't work for everybody. I reckon. This is

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<v Speaker 3>what I've broken the numbers down here because someone asked

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<v Speaker 3>me about this recently. How many people are successful when

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<v Speaker 3>it comes to dietary change. I think for every six

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<v Speaker 3>people that I've coached or have spoken to about making

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<v Speaker 3>change in particularly around diet, I think four out of

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<v Speaker 3>six i e. Two thirds do really well pretty much

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<v Speaker 3>straight away. The fifth person will battle and struggle a

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<v Speaker 3>little bit but still see the benefits. And the sixth

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<v Speaker 3>person probably just can't quite get there.

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<v Speaker 2>Are there?

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<v Speaker 3>You know?

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<v Speaker 2>For the problem is that people who are used to

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<v Speaker 2>their sugary treats. I guess you know, having a round

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<v Speaker 2>one is probably not the biggest sin of all, but

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<v Speaker 2>there will be, you know, people who just have this craving.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you actually have to literally get rid of that

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<v Speaker 2>stuff from your house? Like take it? Is it in

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<v Speaker 2>your house, get it out of the house. If you

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<v Speaker 2>walk past in the supermarket, take it off and aisle

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<v Speaker 2>just don't put yourself in. Do you actually have to

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<v Speaker 2>be that sort of hard exactly right.

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<v Speaker 3>It's called won't power because we can't trust willpower. It

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<v Speaker 3>doesn't work. It might do for a day or two.

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<v Speaker 3>But if you watched Mike and Ganessa's show on TV

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<v Speaker 3>and Z, I think it is called eat Well for Less.

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<v Speaker 2>I've interviewed both those guys.

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<v Speaker 3>So my kids love that show. They love it, so

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<v Speaker 3>we watch it as a family. It's very easy family viewing.

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<v Speaker 3>And all of the families on there that need to

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<v Speaker 3>make over are exactly the same. They all have treat

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<v Speaker 3>drawers and they all go to the supermarket without a plan,

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<v Speaker 3>without a shopping list. So it's just a bit of

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<v Speaker 3>this and a bit of that, and most of the

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<v Speaker 3>food on New Zealand Supermarket shelves is ultra process rubbish.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's no wonder if you don't go to the

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<v Speaker 3>supermarket with a plan and you have a treat drawer

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<v Speaker 3>or a snack draw a special area for this stuff,

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<v Speaker 3>it's no wonder that you'll keep topping it up. So

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<v Speaker 3>you need to lean into won't power. I won't buy it,

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<v Speaker 3>so I won't eat it. Now, that's actually very powerful,

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<v Speaker 3>and it's very affirmative, and it does work. And it

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<v Speaker 3>takes two to three goes at the supermarket for you

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<v Speaker 3>to bed that in. That's all.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you find that? Actually? How did you cut with

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<v Speaker 2>you with the sugar? Did you have cravings? Did you

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<v Speaker 2>find it tough to change? Or are you just lucky

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<v Speaker 2>that you just stopped and you went, Oh, I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>miss it.

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<v Speaker 3>I was determined to do it for the two weeks

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<v Speaker 3>and that was long enough for me to notice an

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<v Speaker 3>enormous difference, massive change because what happened in those two weeks.

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<v Speaker 3>And this is going back a few years ago now,

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<v Speaker 3>But hey, look I've seen this now many times myself

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<v Speaker 3>where others what.

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<v Speaker 2>I meant cutting out alcohol too, wouldn't it alcohol?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah? You could do that, sure? Yeah, if you really

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<v Speaker 3>wanted to.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, that's a sugar.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, just put alcohol to one side. Even if you

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<v Speaker 3>kept drinking alcohol, just even minimizing the amount of package

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<v Speaker 3>food and sugar that you ate regardless of alcohol, you

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<v Speaker 3>probably should see results. Cutting back on alcohol, hey even better.

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<v Speaker 3>But what happens to and when we cut back on

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<v Speaker 3>sugar a number of things happen. Our energy levels actually increase,

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<v Speaker 3>and that's because our inchlin levels have dropped dramatically so

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<v Speaker 3>that we can now access the energy that's been stored

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<v Speaker 3>on our fat cells. So we think if I have

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<v Speaker 3>a chocolate bar, I get the surge of energy for

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<v Speaker 3>thirty minutes. I need the sugar, and then we get

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<v Speaker 3>the crash afterwards. It's not that you're getting a surge

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<v Speaker 3>of energy.

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<v Speaker 4>You are.

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<v Speaker 3>Your brain is lit up. The dopamine receptors in your

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<v Speaker 3>brain are going whole. I love this. It makes me

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<v Speaker 3>feel good. So we feel energized, we feel hyped up.

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<v Speaker 3>Our body is not actually going to get much of

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<v Speaker 3>that energy though, because in a very short space of time,

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<v Speaker 3>all of that sugar has been cleared out of our

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<v Speaker 3>blood and has been stored somewhere i e. Our fat cells.

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<v Speaker 3>So when we cut back on sugar, our inchlin levels

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<v Speaker 3>come down, and all of that energy is being taken

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<v Speaker 3>out of our fat cells. So we're using that, we're

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<v Speaker 3>burning the energy, We're actually using it rather than storing it.

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<v Speaker 3>That's when we see weight loss, and that's when we

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<v Speaker 3>see our inflammation come down. So old old footy injury,

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<v Speaker 3>saw elbows, bad knees, bad hips. That can turn around

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<v Speaker 3>in a very short, astonishingly fast time.

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<v Speaker 2>I can imagine that actually, because even just recently, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>I'm quite fond of a spud from time to time

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<v Speaker 2>and rice and things like that. And it doesn't mean

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<v Speaker 2>they don't eat it, sure, But the other the other day,

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<v Speaker 2>I think my my wife had made a sort of

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<v Speaker 2>main dish of chicken and things, but I had to

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<v Speaker 2>do some other vegetables just for myself, and I thought,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what, I might just cut the might cut

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<v Speaker 2>the spuds out, and I just had some broccoli and

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<v Speaker 2>some carrots. Actually, I decided to sort of try and

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<v Speaker 2>be a bit of a master chef with saut aid

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<v Speaker 2>carrots sort of thing like that. But because it was

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<v Speaker 2>a lighter meal, it was colorful, you know, it sort

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<v Speaker 2>of had they say, you know, it's good to have

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<v Speaker 2>color in your vegetables and things. And I think there

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<v Speaker 2>was a mixture of two things virtue, but actually it

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<v Speaker 2>was a really satisfying meal. Right that. Now, even just

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<v Speaker 2>that quickly, I'm actually now got an alternative when I'm

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<v Speaker 2>thinking I need to when I'm quite hungry, that I

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<v Speaker 2>don't need to revert to the spuds, because sometimes, you know, spuds,

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<v Speaker 2>you can sort of mashed potatoes. Its face, we can

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<v Speaker 2>all over do that a bit, can't.

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<v Speaker 3>We for sure? Yeah? Anyway, But there's probably a couple

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<v Speaker 3>of things there to Number one, your taste buds can change.

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<v Speaker 3>So if you deny yourself something that you think you

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<v Speaker 3>can't go without, it turns out actually you can cope,

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<v Speaker 3>and your taste buds do change. But also you've got

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<v Speaker 3>the little guy on your shoulder who's saying, do I

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<v Speaker 3>really want the buds now? And look, sometimes you say

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<v Speaker 3>yes to what the hell I'm going to have them?

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<v Speaker 3>And other times the little guy is powerful enough to

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<v Speaker 3>deter you, and you go off and do something a

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<v Speaker 3>little bit healthier. So now you are mindfully eating. And

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know anyone who's gone from being a mindless

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<v Speaker 3>eater who's just eating whatever they want without thinking about

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<v Speaker 3>it and the consequences to becoming a mindful eater who's

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<v Speaker 3>then gone backwards. It doesn't happen once you develop that

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<v Speaker 3>self awareness around food and my experience, that does not

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<v Speaker 3>leave you. Okay again, something to really aspire to and

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<v Speaker 3>to look forward to. And it's it is not as

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<v Speaker 3>difficult as people think it is. It really isn't right.

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<v Speaker 2>We're going to take another moment and come back and

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<v Speaker 2>just to tap because it's thing to have the goal

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<v Speaker 2>and then it's another thing to get going with it.

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<v Speaker 2>We're gonna have a chat with I'm gonna have a

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<v Speaker 2>chat with Kent. You can join us if you like,

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<v Speaker 2>I know, eight hundred and eighty and eighty on does

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<v Speaker 2>does it need to be an expensive exercise because a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of people think, oh, you know, I've got to

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<v Speaker 2>join a gym I can't afford to. Therefore, no, what

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<v Speaker 2>are the good ways of getting fit that aren't actually

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<v Speaker 2>gonna hit your bank balance too much? Either? I think

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<v Speaker 2>that the answer might be some common sense, but you

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<v Speaker 2>know what, I don't think it's that straightforward. I think

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<v Speaker 2>so many people I know say, oh, I'm gonna have

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<v Speaker 2>to join a gym. You know, there there it goes

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<v Speaker 2>on tech. Can you know how much of it is

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<v Speaker 2>a year fifteen hundred bucks or whatever. Anyway, we'll discuss

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<v Speaker 2>that in just a moment. It's twenty two minutes to

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<v Speaker 2>five new stalks. He'd b's.

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<v Speaker 3>She's a challenge where part of this.

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<v Speaker 2>Together and welcome back to news Talks to be this

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<v Speaker 2>is the week in collective. My guest is Kent Johns

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<v Speaker 2>from Kent John's Health. Talk about setting goals and sticking

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<v Speaker 2>to it. If you decide, you know, you might be

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<v Speaker 2>watching the Olympics and thinking, you know, look at these guys,

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<v Speaker 2>they look magnificent. I need to try and get half

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<v Speaker 2>way to that magnificence. I don't know eedged towards it. Actually,

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<v Speaker 2>I was thinking I mentioned just before the break about

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<v Speaker 2>finding an exercise habit without it having to cost your

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<v Speaker 2>arm and a leg. But in some ways you do

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<v Speaker 2>need to have an investment in what you're doing. That

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<v Speaker 2>it's maybe it doesn't need to be financial, but for instance,

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<v Speaker 2>people join a gym and they think, I've got to

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<v Speaker 2>go to the gym because I'm paying for it. It's

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<v Speaker 2>like if people engage you, I would say the job's done.

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<v Speaker 2>If you've gone to see a health coach. Then you

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<v Speaker 2>are paying to get advice and support and coaching. You

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<v Speaker 2>are well on the way to probably making some changes

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<v Speaker 2>because you've made a commitment.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, but fair.

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<v Speaker 2>But is there another way of that? Do you have

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<v Speaker 2>to be committed in some financial aspect either other? How

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<v Speaker 2>do you actually get a commitment going?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, it's there's a time commitment, there's an energy commitment.

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<v Speaker 3>There could be a commitment to somebody else. Maybe you

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<v Speaker 3>agree to do it with someone else. We call that

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<v Speaker 3>having an accountability buddy. I think that can often be

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<v Speaker 3>just enough to get someone over the line. I told

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<v Speaker 3>Dave i'd meet him tomorrow for a run I really need.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't want to let him down because I look

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<v Speaker 3>at those pelotons. It works.

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<v Speaker 2>I look at the pelotons going around the water and think,

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<v Speaker 2>I can't think when they would like less to do.

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<v Speaker 2>But of course every guy in that or girl in

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<v Speaker 2>that peloton is probably an element of you know, I've

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<v Speaker 2>got to turn up that. You know we're going to

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<v Speaker 2>We've arranged a meet on this day. I've said I'm

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<v Speaker 2>going to be their bingo. Job done.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Some people are great self starters. Other people need help.

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<v Speaker 3>They need to be alongside others, or have a coach,

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<v Speaker 3>or have a mentor, or have a buddy. It just

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<v Speaker 3>depends on the makeup of you the person. There's no

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<v Speaker 3>wrong answer.

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<v Speaker 2>What if you can't afford to join a gym or

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<v Speaker 2>pay for a coach or something like that, and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's the thing in the lack of exercise

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<v Speaker 2>also as an isolating thing sometimes as well, you feel

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<v Speaker 2>that your you know, everyone else is doing their thing

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<v Speaker 2>and there you are. You know, you need you want

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<v Speaker 2>to have some company to do something. I guess you've

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<v Speaker 2>are there particular strategies or groups you can join or

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<v Speaker 2>aren't necessarily something you've got to pay for or what?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I suppose you could. There are one off classes

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<v Speaker 3>for equa aerobics and stuff like that you don't necessarily

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<v Speaker 3>have to join as a member, but again that you're

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<v Speaker 3>still paying for that. There are only so many activities

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<v Speaker 3>you can do for free, quote unquote, But if you

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<v Speaker 3>want it to be a runner or a walkie, you

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<v Speaker 3>need a decent pair of shoes. It's all about movement

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<v Speaker 3>for me, Tim, just just moving, getting out there and

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<v Speaker 3>doing something. Find something that you enjoy. I know we've

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<v Speaker 3>talked about this one hundred times find but that is

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<v Speaker 3>that is one of the keys to success is to

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<v Speaker 3>find something that you enjoy and go and do that.

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<v Speaker 2>Actually, the other thing is as well, you can probably

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<v Speaker 2>sacrifice a couple of those caps of coffee per week,

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<v Speaker 2>which it might be part of your unhealthy habit, and

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<v Speaker 2>spend that on a gym because actually gym memberships. There

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<v Speaker 2>are all sorts of gyms that don't have to You

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<v Speaker 2>don't have to go to the Tang for Tang sort

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<v Speaker 2>of top gym and the.

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<v Speaker 3>Different options, and you can buy ten passes just to

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<v Speaker 3>see how it goes. Like the gym where I frequent

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<v Speaker 3>up not far from where I live, you can buy

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<v Speaker 3>a ten pass membership just see how you go. And

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<v Speaker 3>if it's not for you, if you become a gym

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<v Speaker 3>donor and you're not interested, well you've only wait, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>you've only thrown a couple hundred dollars down the tube

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<v Speaker 3>rather than a few hundred or a few thousand.

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<v Speaker 2>Part of one of the things for Greg Pain advised

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<v Speaker 2>me to get a new pair of running shoes with

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<v Speaker 2>the injury. And when you've splashed out for a good

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<v Speaker 2>pair of running shoes, you just can't leave them sitting

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<v Speaker 2>on the floor. I think I've got to use those things.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess that's some sort of investment.

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<v Speaker 3>But there are good yoga classes and meditative practice pilates

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<v Speaker 3>online you can find for free, like most things you

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<v Speaker 3>can find for free somewhere, and if you're prepared to

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<v Speaker 3>have a look, you don't have to necessarily fork out

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<v Speaker 3>a heap of money.

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<v Speaker 2>I got a couple few techs here, guys. I'm fifty four.

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<v Speaker 2>I do jiu jitsu. Oh gosh, sounds it's got to

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<v Speaker 2>be one of the hardest things I've done physically, with

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<v Speaker 2>the training and sparring rolling, And you cannot do it

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<v Speaker 2>without eventually getting you into a high level. Oh, you

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<v Speaker 2>can't do it without eventually getting you into a high

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<v Speaker 2>level of fitness and strength. I'm not sure if he's

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<v Speaker 2>selling it to me. It says it's worth all the pain.

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<v Speaker 2>I wake up in the middle of the night in

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<v Speaker 2>agony from sore neck and back and everything else. But

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<v Speaker 2>it gives out adrenaline kick we still need at this age,

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<v Speaker 2>says Steve. I'm not sure what the moral of the

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<v Speaker 2>story is there, Steve.

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<v Speaker 3>It sounds like Steve's thriving, albeit in some pain.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well, he at this stage, the reward is worth

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<v Speaker 2>the discomfort, right.

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<v Speaker 3>I have a friend who does that and she swears

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<v Speaker 3>by it, but then she hurt her shoulder quite badly,

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<v Speaker 3>so I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well it's like that. Did you see that rugby

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<v Speaker 2>match that they played the celebrity the parliamentary team in

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<v Speaker 2>Northland versus the Northland team And I looked at I

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<v Speaker 2>just thought they must have had defibrillators on standby for that,

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<v Speaker 2>because that looked like a recipe for disaster. I okay,

0:33:09.441 --> 0:33:12.281
<v Speaker 2>Shane Jones was lacing up, Andrew Saville was in it,

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<v Speaker 2>Save was playing. Yeah, yeah, he was an e broker's finger.

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<v Speaker 2>He described himself, I think on Hoskin's show as getting

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<v Speaker 2>out of the petrol station on the way home and

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<v Speaker 2>looking like a half open pocket knife rest for himself. Hey,

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<v Speaker 2>just joined. I'm not sure if this is the right

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<v Speaker 2>place for the question. What's the best way to get

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<v Speaker 2>belly fat reduced? I'm sixty seven one hundred and seventy

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<v Speaker 2>three centem is reasonably fit, not over weight, but excess

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<v Speaker 2>belly fat. Need to get the sugar levels down. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>it helps getting the fat off, but yeah, question answer

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<v Speaker 2>you go?

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<v Speaker 3>So sugar. The problem with sugar is that fifty percent

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<v Speaker 3>of sugar is fructase. Yeap right, fruct Toast gets matabilized

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<v Speaker 3>in the liver exclusively. Glucose gets metabolized up and down

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<v Speaker 3>the body. Fruct toast gets metabolized in the liver. Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>So if we have too much sugar, we're asking our

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<v Speaker 3>liver to do too much work. That's when we can

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<v Speaker 3>get liver fat and visceral fat around our organs. That

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<v Speaker 3>is some of that big belly fat. It's the most

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<v Speaker 3>dangerous fat to carry. So we need to get that

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<v Speaker 3>down and reducing alcohol, reducing sugar will do the job.

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<v Speaker 3>And it makes perfect sense.

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<v Speaker 1>Right.

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<v Speaker 3>We know alcohol gets metabolized in the liver. Alcohol is

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<v Speaker 3>made from fermented sugar, so why wouldn't fructast be the same.

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<v Speaker 3>I wish that wasn't true, Tim, but it is. We

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<v Speaker 3>can't escape that. So you're reducing sugar will go a

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<v Speaker 3>long way to help it.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay. Another text, great conversation. I think a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>people can benefit out of cooking their own food, and

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<v Speaker 2>it can be as simple as trading McDonald's for your

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<v Speaker 2>own home cooked burgers. Same food, but vastly healthier. Even

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<v Speaker 2>googling high protein versions of their favorite foods. I actually,

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<v Speaker 2>if you do start cooking your own food, that has

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<v Speaker 2>to be the beginnings of eating better, doesn't it.

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<v Speaker 3>In New Zealand, the protein that we buy is quite expensive.

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<v Speaker 3>Seafood is really expensive, and sometimes it's disheartening to see

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<v Speaker 3>the price of lamb, for example, minced beef. It is

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<v Speaker 3>not quite as bad. But we look at beef and

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<v Speaker 3>we think it's really expensive. But we can surround our

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<v Speaker 3>protein with cheaper things and go home and put a

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<v Speaker 3>beautiful meal together and work out what is the cost

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<v Speaker 3>per serving. That will go a long way to making

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<v Speaker 3>things appear to be a little bit cheaper, and so

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<v Speaker 3>therefore it's more sustainable and it's doable. And yeah, you

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<v Speaker 3>put a whole lot of ingredients in a shopping trolley

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<v Speaker 3>and you go home and do your own burgers, way cheaper,

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<v Speaker 3>way cheaper than the perception of a cheap, nasty takeaway exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>Actually, I'm a big fan of the homemade burgers. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>Chris today.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh hi, I look just a bit of a fit

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<v Speaker 4>in the story without a gym. I was always a

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<v Speaker 4>week in recreationally on the hills and the bush, and

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<v Speaker 4>that sort of stuff, but not that flash. I bumped

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<v Speaker 4>into some people a year and they taught me into

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<v Speaker 4>doing a half marathon walk, which is way beyond anything

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<v Speaker 4>I looked at before. From Boxing Day one year to

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<v Speaker 4>the around the Bays, which was I think about the

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<v Speaker 4>twentieth or something. In February, so something like two months,

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<v Speaker 4>I did the Colonial Knob steps, which is seven hundred

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<v Speaker 4>and twenty steps over about two kilometer I think it is.

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<v Speaker 4>And by the time i'd done that, I did that

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<v Speaker 4>fifty three times over the two months, and I did

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<v Speaker 4>the half marathon walk with ease.

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<v Speaker 2>What was it again, you call it the color I

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<v Speaker 2>didn't quite catch them thing.

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<v Speaker 4>It's called Colonial Knob. It's and potty doer.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh okay, And it's just going up steps.

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<v Speaker 4>It's just coming up steps. And it just the stamina

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<v Speaker 4>that gave me. I mean I was fifty eight when

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<v Speaker 4>I was doing this, and I just went from a

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<v Speaker 4>very average weekend bushwalker and I did the half marathon

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<v Speaker 4>walk and I think it was under two hours fifty good.

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<v Speaker 2>Actually, you know something you mentioned there, Chris, I think

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<v Speaker 2>is forgetting the ease of one form of exercise, go

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<v Speaker 2>for a walk, eat better, and go for a walk walking.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, all you did was reduce sugar and go for stroll.

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<v Speaker 3>The Italians call it the pussy ajecta, which is fifteen

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<v Speaker 3>minutes stroll after dinner just to loosen you know, they

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<v Speaker 3>go for a stroll and it's because it helps with

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<v Speaker 3>your insulin sensitivity. It helps just move your metabolism along. So, yeah, movement.

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<v Speaker 3>People underestimate walking. Walking's got a bad rat for some

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<v Speaker 3>reason because people think that they have to be runners.

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<v Speaker 3>They don't. Walking is a fantastic form of exercise.

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<v Speaker 4>And you, Kelly, was key was the uphill steps? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>sor it was the uphill steps that seemed to make

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<v Speaker 4>the difference because the people, the people I was talking

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<v Speaker 4>to set you've got to train three hours a day,

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<v Speaker 4>three times a week, so nine ten hours a week.

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<v Speaker 4>I didn't have that time. So these steps were very

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<v Speaker 4>close to my workplace. So I was doing three times

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<v Speaker 4>up and there I could do it in an hour,

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<v Speaker 4>and I was doing three hours a week. It's probably

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<v Speaker 4>the ten hours.

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<v Speaker 2>Probably the bit careful on is coming down. Actually, i'd

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<v Speaker 2>imagine you know, absolutely we're just leadings. But thanks for

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<v Speaker 2>call good story. In fact, that is good story. That

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<v Speaker 2>is probably one of the simplest things. If you want

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<v Speaker 2>to get started on something and you've you've given up

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<v Speaker 2>on yourself, just start eating better and start walking and

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<v Speaker 2>then see where it goes from there.

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<v Speaker 3>As Mark Twain said, the key to getting your head

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<v Speaker 3>is getting started. That's the key. You make your decision

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<v Speaker 3>to do something. Tim you make a start, you're fifty

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<v Speaker 3>percent of the way.

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<v Speaker 2>There, then go okay, we'll be back in a moment

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<v Speaker 2>to wrap it up. It's eight minutes to five news

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<v Speaker 2>Talk z B two ways. Let's welcome back to the

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<v Speaker 2>weekend collective. That almost wraps up the health ub with

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<v Speaker 2>Kent John's from Kent John's Health. But we've had a

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<v Speaker 2>couple of calls and some texts on one issue when

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<v Speaker 2>it comes to cutting out sugar. What a weirdness fruits

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<v Speaker 2>in that?

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<v Speaker 4>Oh?

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<v Speaker 3>Fair question, really fair question. Get that A lot fruit's

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<v Speaker 3>fine because fruit has fiber. So if you eat whole fruit,

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<v Speaker 3>the fiber and the fruit protects your metabolism from the

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<v Speaker 3>front toast that's within the fruit. Fruit juice is no

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<v Speaker 3>good because all of the fibers being taken out, so

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<v Speaker 3>then your body is exposed to the front toe. So

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<v Speaker 3>eat whole fruit. You'll be all right, and it.

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<v Speaker 2>Deals with the craving as well. Instead of having a

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<v Speaker 2>couple of lollies eaten apple.

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<v Speaker 3>Headful of fresh berries or some strawberries is actually sweet enough,

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<v Speaker 3>but if you eat a lot of chocolate, your appreciation

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<v Speaker 3>for those berries won't be the same because your taste

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<v Speaker 3>buds have changed.

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<v Speaker 2>Muzz Is asked, what about V if I have it

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<v Speaker 2>without sugar? Lucky?

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<v Speaker 3>Last find out what else is in the you?

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<v Speaker 2>Muzz Yeah, just actually just keep away hand good luck,

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<v Speaker 2>Just keep away from it. I'm sorry, you know, red

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<v Speaker 2>Bull V whatever it is.

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<v Speaker 3>All of that stuff is garbage soft drink if you

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<v Speaker 3>can just avoid it.

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<v Speaker 2>Guess what, try just soda water. It feels like you're

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<v Speaker 2>having a drink when you're not really having a drink,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's just harmless soda water. Oh, I'm gonna have

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<v Speaker 2>a word with my producer who looks like she might

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<v Speaker 2>be having one of those drinks you just referred to.

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<v Speaker 2>Will there be even words in the brain having one?

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<v Speaker 3>She's held the can?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, anyway, Hey, keep good to see it, John's Health

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<v Speaker 2>dot Co audience it yees, buddy, excellent, and we'll be

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