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Speaker 2: Good morning. I'm just if we're all going to start

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Speaker 2: setting fire to our red bullcans like people set fire

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Speaker 1: I've decided Christian.

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Speaker 2: Horner is the most unlikable. He's even more unlikable than

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Speaker 2: Megan Markle, and that for me is so distasteful, isn't it.

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Speaker 2: I have felt sick all week for Liam and I

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Speaker 2: loved your correspondent from the BBC earlier, you know, put

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Speaker 2: a really positive spot on it. The lemb's got to

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Speaker 2: stay positive and I do believe that. But what a massive, psychological,

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Speaker 2: incredibly tough blow this must have been for a twenty

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Speaker 1: Do you know what I like about that? And because

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Speaker 1: you represent what I've what I've felt this week is

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Speaker 1: that no one, this whole country has been invested in

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Speaker 1: this one story. So all I do is being on

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Speaker 1: we bought we're all left one fans this week, and

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Speaker 1: Liam story and that and that is the power of

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Speaker 1: an individual from New Zealand who gets to the elite

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Speaker 1: of elite, and that what's brilliant about the story is

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Speaker 1: that if one is the elite, it's not like any

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Speaker 1: other sport. It's the biggest sport in the world. And

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Speaker 1: it's right up there with the NBA and Major League

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Speaker 1: Baseball and football and stuff like that. And we're a

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Speaker 1: part of it. Can you shut that dog up? How

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Speaker 1: hard can it be?

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Speaker 3: And Doggie loves it?

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Speaker 2: But I do think also that yeah, I mean, we

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Speaker 3: Of is lead laws And can I just ask a question?

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Speaker 4: Though, like red ball and known for prioritizing immediate results

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Speaker 3: Not like this.

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Speaker 4: This is an extreme version of it. And we don't

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Speaker 4: have all the information, Like we don't know what's happening

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Speaker 4: internally obviously, but it just seems that you know, if

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Speaker 4: you go out to dinner with the devil, you're going

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Speaker 4: to get stuck with the bill at some point. So

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Speaker 4: I imagine that Liam, being a smart young man, what

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Speaker 3: In a bit? He?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think it's a good point. I don't

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Speaker 1: think it'll ruin him. He's still an F one. I

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Speaker 1: get all of that. But you know, all I can

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Speaker 1: imagine is that that he, of all the people who

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Speaker 1: He was at the He was at the I could

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Speaker 1: can get cups and prizes and earn millions. He was

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Speaker 1: at that end. He wasn't just at the back with

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Speaker 1: Sourburn all the other losers. He was at the he

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Speaker 1: was he was at the party. And then that so

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Speaker 3: Tell it always rises. He'll come back.

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Speaker 1: Well, one would hope. So one would hope.

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Speaker 2: I just hope you can get his confidence back, because

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Speaker 2: you could just see in his face he just he

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Speaker 3: He did. He looks.

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Speaker 1: So two questions for you, Katie, because you're good at this.

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Speaker 1: So first of all, do you like Helmet Marco or not?

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Speaker 1: So Helmet Marco comes out this morning like Helmet Marco

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Speaker 1: He lost his confidence. Now that's brutal, but it's true,

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Speaker 1: So do you like that or not? And then second question,

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Speaker 1: what do you do as a parent sitting in Pocaco

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Speaker 1: in New Zealand watching a twenty three year old go

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Speaker 1: through that? Do you jump on a plane? Do you

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Speaker 3: What do you do?

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Speaker 2: I mean, are they not there? I mean I'd just

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Speaker 2: be there bubbing us back? So tough?

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Speaker 1: I just I just does that make you a helicopter?

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Speaker 2: He's going to need something, He's going to have to

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Speaker 2: need some support because this is a ruthless, brutal, tough,

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Speaker 2: so it's not for a minute that he's interested in

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Speaker 3: This is so interesting.

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Speaker 4: So Mike saw hearts and flowers, and then then it

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Speaker 1: No, SOI trying to drive through a line here, I'm

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Speaker 1: heading for the Chicane. I'm looking for the apex. Do

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Speaker 1: I lift off? Do I go through full speed. That's

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Speaker 4: Hey hey, hey, hey, hey hey, just back the truck up.

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Speaker 4: I just want to know what it felt like to

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Speaker 3: And Bob Geldoff very funny.

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Speaker 1: Anyway, the moral mic is not to get a perm.

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Speaker 1: See isn't that interesting? I think about that. Do you

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Speaker 1: remember when Graham Thorne got a perm? Did Liam Mawson

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Speaker 1: Liam Lawson. Liam Liam got a perm. You got a

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Speaker 1: just before he started with Red Bull over the summer.

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Speaker 2: Was natural. I just thought that was kind of you fell.

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Speaker 1: For that line, did you? I thought that was natural?

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Speaker 3: Have you Have you ever had a perm?

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Speaker 1: Of course not?

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Speaker 4: Of course not all right, don't take that.

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Speaker 1: The reason This is why it's interesting. The reason no

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Speaker 3: Is because j Mullett. Maybe you could have never The reason.

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Speaker 1: The reason I did not, The reason one gets a

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Speaker 1: was the same. It was roughly at the same time

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Speaker 1: when Angela Dawdney got out of breasts remember that?

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Speaker 4: Oh my goodness, can we just pivot to something else

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Speaker 4: that Angela?

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Speaker 1: Just imagine so you had You must remember Tim graham

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Speaker 3: He turned up. Yeah, yeah, he did, he did. When

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Speaker 1: It was the same time Angela Dowdney got out of

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Speaker 3: Why just keep keep keep your T shirt on? Just

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Speaker 1: That's a good question, Katie, But didn't stop it doing. Okay,

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Speaker 1: where were we? It was, Bob, very good question. Before

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Speaker 1: Really well, I mean, you know, we said we did

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Speaker 1: as an individual, the fact that I was in the

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Speaker 1: to Bob, I said, I said, what are you doing

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Speaker 1: for yourself? He goes, what do you What do you mean?

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Speaker 3: Again, yeah you.

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Speaker 1: I go home and Katie goes goes, what's the matter

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Speaker 2: You're like, what's your fitness resume? You look amazing.

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Speaker 4: I have five pints of Guinness for breakfast and after

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Speaker 1: It's funny you should say that, because because I said,

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Speaker 1: so that's ninety minutes walking a day, and he eats

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Speaker 2: You might be talking out of turn here, because this is.

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Speaker 1: All of I say, no, now, no, Bob won't sue

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Speaker 2: And he's still working, which is good. It's what you

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Speaker 2: were saying early about purpose, which is so true.

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Speaker 3: Says it's more important than anything is to have purpose.

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Speaker 1: Which is why I like what Aniston said this week

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he's doing what he does. He doesn't look eated,

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Speaker 4: Back back to that thing with purpose, though, I wonder

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Speaker 4: I would submit that it does matter what your purpose

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Speaker 4: is because some of the greatest dictators in the world's

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Speaker 3: But he was talking about structure.

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Speaker 4: People who say, for example, if you're unemployed, you don't

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Speaker 4: you've still got something to put a great to get

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, And I think that's his purpose. And the

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Speaker 1: more I meet the Bob geldofs this world, especially in

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Speaker 1: is the desire to be out of bed, to be relevant,

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Speaker 1: to have a purpose, to write a song, to sing

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Speaker 1: And that's what keeps you light and healthy and well.

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Speaker 3: It was a lovely interview.

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Speaker 2: He's a really really lovely guy by the sounds.

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Speaker 1: Can I just ask one more question before yes, he

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Speaker 1: is a lovely guy, you correct. Can I ask just actually,

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Speaker 1: I'll give this away. I met my hero yesterday, well

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Speaker 1: one of my heroes yesterday. And you know they say

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Speaker 1: never meet your heroes. Well I met one of my

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Speaker 1: heroes yesterday and I had the best possible time.

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Speaker 3: Who's the hero Bruce Hornsby.

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Speaker 1: Bruce Hornsby in the range?

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Speaker 3: But oh my goodness.

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Speaker 1: And I thought, I hope this goes well. You know,

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Speaker 1: when of those interviews you go, I hope this goes well.

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Speaker 1: And it did go well, and it went fantastically well.

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Speaker 1: So that was that was my thrill for the day.

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Speaker 1: Quick quick question to finalize this.

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Speaker 2: When's Bruce Hornsby on you should take So.

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Speaker 1: That's a bit of question than the one I was

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Speaker 1: going to ask. The answer is, shall we say Tuesday,

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Speaker 1: the week after the week after sixth Sam's.

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Speaker 3: This is the deepest teas in the virtually easter.

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Speaker 4: This is the deepest eas in the history of radio.

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Speaker 4: Layton Smith will be scowling at the radio right now, late.

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Speaker 1: Laon next to We've got Joe Parker coming in, and

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Speaker 1: I'm not going to be the one to tell Joe

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Speaker 1: Parker we bumped him for Bruce Hornsby. So Joe Parkers

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Speaker 1: in the studio, so that's going to go well. Now

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Speaker 1: it's not going to well, but Bruce Hornsby some time

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Speaker 1: before the end of the year. Let's let's let's trailer

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Speaker 1: that and see what anyway. Nice to see you guys.

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Speaker 1: Kate hawksby Tim Wilson.

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