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Speaker 1: Barry Sober, Senior political correspondence with US Barry.

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Speaker 2: Yes, Henny, you've just convinced me that it was the bird.

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Speaker 1: That you don't believe that was the bird.

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Speaker 2: I didn't know, but I do now because you've insisted

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Speaker 2: that it was.

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Speaker 1: It's amazing, isn't It isn't. I'm at risk of going

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Speaker 1: on a bit hard about this, but I do think

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Speaker 1: that sure is AI. Well, God only knows everything can

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Speaker 1: be AI. Now does it sound to you as if

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Speaker 1: we're going to change the rules so foreigners can buy

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Speaker 1: houses here?

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Speaker 2: I think almost inevitably. Nikola Willis sat down with interviewers

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Speaker 2: Carol Massar and Tim Stanovac from Bloomberg Business Weekly in

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Speaker 2: New York today and she talked about the fifteen percent tariffs,

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Speaker 2: saying that they were not expecting to be able to

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Speaker 2: bring them down with the Trump administration. She was asked though,

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Speaker 2: about foreign investors being allowed to buy homes here, and

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Speaker 2: probably told us what we really already know that help

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Speaker 2: is on the.

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Speaker 3: Way, that is excluded. Our government, which has compared rised

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Speaker 3: of three parties, has been in discussion about loosening those

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Speaker 3: regulations so that those who get an active investor visa

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Speaker 3: may in future be able to purchase apprise the future.

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Speaker 2: What are we talking about for a timeline here?

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Speaker 3: That those talks have been underway and you would expect

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Speaker 3: that a decision would be made by our cabinet in

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Speaker 3: the coming weeks, in the coming weeks.

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Speaker 2: So Carol, get ready.

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Speaker 3: Your little slice of paradise. We're surrounded by a big,

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Speaker 3: fat option. I know, we have huge amounts of land.

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Speaker 3: It's beautiful. I think the world should be looking at

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Speaker 3: New Zealand. We have great prospects.

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Speaker 2: So the female interviewer there, she is a keen sailor.

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Speaker 2: But I think essentially, given what she said, Winston Peters

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Speaker 2: has agreed that foreigners should be able to buy houses there,

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Speaker 2: and I think he should agree to it. Because if

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Speaker 2: you've got a lot of money coming to New zealandry

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Speaker 2: and you're going to invest it in this country, why

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Speaker 2: shouldn't you.

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Speaker 1: Of course you want to Yeah, of course you want

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Speaker 1: to buy a house. Okay, we'll talk to him when

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Speaker 1: he's with us after five o'clock about that. What do

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Speaker 1: you make of the Supreme Court ruling on the river beds?

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Speaker 2: I found it interesting, Paul Goldsmith, he was not really

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Speaker 2: committing to in fact challenging this ruling as well as

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Speaker 2: they did with the other Supreme Court ruling. I think

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Speaker 2: it's inevitable these river beds. In fact, they've got to

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Speaker 2: be a certain with able to take craft boats on

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Speaker 2: the river and then they fall in the classification of

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Speaker 2: under the marine and coastal area is navigable. Yes, they

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Speaker 2: do so. Yeah, it's a case, isn't it though, of

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Speaker 2: the Supreme Court knowing full well, I would imagine when

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Speaker 2: they made that decision that the Government would no doubt

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Speaker 2: turn around as they did in the earlier decision and

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Speaker 2: overturn it. And just you know, it raises this whole

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Speaker 2: prospect of the independence of the judiciary from Parliament. Parliament

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Speaker 2: is the ultimate court in the land, so they have

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Speaker 2: the right to make the legislation and make it the

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Speaker 2: way they want it to be interpreted. Yes, the courts, though, well.

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Speaker 1: Both of them are acting as they should interpreted and

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Speaker 1: Parliament's going no, you're wrongly interpreted. I'm going to change it.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you can still accuse the Supreme Court of

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Speaker 1: being activists, though, can't you.

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Speaker 2: Well you could do yes.

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Speaker 1: Now, I don't quite know how to raise this with you.

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Speaker 1: I'm afraid of your tds. But do you want to

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Speaker 1: talk about Trump a Trump arrangement syndrome?

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Speaker 2: Do you know a bit of refrain from talking about Trump?

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Speaker 2: You will because you've.

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Speaker 1: Related on Theavy Barry and realized that.

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Speaker 2: Fact publicly on here that I have the Trump arrangement syndrome,

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Speaker 2: and I think any sane human being will have the

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Speaker 2: same thing. Nevertheless, here we go to it. Yes, going

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Speaker 2: into the meeting tomorrow, this is a massaging exercise for

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Speaker 2: Donald Trump. I think Putin is playing his old game

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Speaker 2: with Trump, and Trump will come away from it not

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Speaker 2: looking that good because Putin is not a person to

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Speaker 2: be trifled with, as Trump has found out in the past.

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Speaker 2: And how can you make agreements with a country that's

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Speaker 2: not even present at the about a country that's not

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Speaker 2: even present at the table? Do you know there's a

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Speaker 2: certain irony, Heather in this meeting taking place in Alaska

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Speaker 2: because Alaska used to belong to Russia. It was Russian

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Speaker 2: for Russians of love. Yes, indeed they are. And here

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Speaker 2: they are now talking about, no doubt, the Ukraine surrendering

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Speaker 2: part of its land. Well, Putin I think will feel

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Speaker 2: rather comfortable and anchorage.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So do you so, Do you accept that this

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Speaker 1: is the meeting ahead, this will be the first of

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Speaker 1: a series of meetings if there is a cease fire deal,

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Speaker 1: do you accept that, well, Trump will strike a deal

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Speaker 1: at this meeting Trump.

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Speaker 2: For Trump saying there's a twenty five percent chance that

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Speaker 2: it won't succeed. That is massive for Trump.

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Speaker 1: I want you to answer my question. Do you accept

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Speaker 1: that this will be the first in a series of

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Speaker 1: meetings if there is a cease fire deal?

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Speaker 2: Oh indeed there will be okay.

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Speaker 1: And are you telling me that you will? You do

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Speaker 1: not believe this will end in a cease fire deal.

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Speaker 2: I have my absolute doubts about conditions. Zelenski. You know,

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Speaker 2: he's not about to throw down. He's going to have

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Speaker 2: to throw down the or raise.

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Speaker 1: The world's going to have to He's going to have

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Speaker 1: to give up some lands to go and then put

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Speaker 1: your money on the fact that there's no ceasepy deal.

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Speaker 2: No, I don't think there'll be okay, bottle of gin, Yeah, okay.

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Speaker 1: Great, take you up on it. I sat, I reckon

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Speaker 1: there will be a ceaspy deal and it's on.

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