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Speaker 1: You're listening to the Saturday Morning with Jack Taine podcast

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Speaker 1: from News Talks ed B. Start your weekend off in style.

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Speaker 2: Zero and three. Dearie me Oh, The Blues have had

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Speaker 2: a rough start to the Super Rugby season. There is

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Speaker 2: And this morning on New Stalks dB before ten o'clock,

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Speaker 2: we leave you the top tips you need on getting

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Speaker 2: the preserves sorted at your place as we head into water.

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Speaker 2: It's that time of year where all of the bottling

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Speaker 2: and jarring. This is not the thing, you know what

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Speaker 2: I mean preserving is that time of year where we're

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Speaker 2: into waterm and our woman in the kitchen, our expert

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Speaker 2: in the kitchen, Nicky Wicks, has all of her top

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Speaker 2: Right now, it's eight minutes past nine.

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Speaker 3: Jack, Team Gas.

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Speaker 2: I think of all the things I knew in theory,

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Speaker 2: at least about parenting a newborn, but had to experience

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Speaker 2: in person to fully appreciate, I think it's gas, the

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Speaker 2: myriad curiosities of a two and a half week old's

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Speaker 2: digestive tract that have left me the most befuddled. You know,

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Speaker 2: I knew in theory that babies had to be burped. Okay,

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Speaker 2: I knew in theory they often have problems and discomfort

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Speaker 2: when digesting their latest feeds. And I knew in theory

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Speaker 2: his guts might even wake himself up. I guess I'm

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Speaker 2: just shocked at the speed with which I've transformed into

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Speaker 2: one of those parents totally obsessed with his baby son's

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Speaker 2: belches and bowls. It's the pain that does it when

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Speaker 2: something's trapped somewhere deep, the way his little face scrunches

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Speaker 2: up and contorts, how he writhes and twists and clenches

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Speaker 2: every muscle in his body. Often I'm holding him and

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Speaker 2: he's holding me, his tiny little hand gripping my index

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Speaker 2: finger as he clenches his fingers white, his face a

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Speaker 2: crimson red with the strain and effort. Before you ask, yes,

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Speaker 2: I have tried various techniques for getting things moving at

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Speaker 2: seems to me nothing but baby osteopaths holding infants and

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Speaker 2: folding them in half. There's the classic baby over the shoulder,

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Speaker 2: next supported facing in. My personal favorite is the wheelwaggle,

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Speaker 2: where you lift him gently just under his armpits with

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Speaker 2: But then, of course one of us has to sit

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Speaker 2: There is an alarm that goes off. It's a judgment call,

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Speaker 2: When you think about it, it's kind of crazy that

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Speaker 2: But sometimes his stomach feels hard to the touch cruelly.

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Speaker 2: His preferred way of soothing his discomfort is to feed again,

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Speaker 2: which then exacerbates the problem. And at nineteen days old,

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Speaker 2: grimly digestive line of inquiry. The thing about parenting is

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Speaker 2: that while you share in your child's discomfort, you also

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Speaker 2: Blues Brumbies plus the black Caps and that final comes

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Speaker 2: Sunday night. Matt Henry's still looking like he's in doubt,

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Speaker 2: for our Saturday. It's thirteen minutes past nine. I'm Jack

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Speaker 2: David's Saturday Morning and this is Newstalk's EDB.

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Speaker 3: No better way to kick off your weekend than with Jack.

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Speaker 2: eNB Okay sixteen minutes past nine on News Talks, he'd

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Speaker 2: be ah, Jack, I only feel for you guys. Our

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Speaker 2: youngest was like that. I'm not going to tell you

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Speaker 2: how long it took to get sordered. Stay strong. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I think we might be in for the long haul here, Jack,

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Speaker 2: how many shirts have you gone through? Burping a little

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Speaker 2: sismas oh to a day. It's amazing how quickly. Actually,

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Speaker 2: first of all, amazing how quickly become absolutely obsessed with

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Speaker 2: but sorry. The next thing is absolutely amazing how quickly

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Speaker 2: like this only has like baby puke and like dried

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Speaker 2: milk stains on two sides. It should be all good.

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Speaker 2: Jack love listening to your Saturday Morning says your little

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Speaker 2: boy got a name yet?

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Speaker 4: Oh?

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Speaker 2: in I. It's a Persian name. It means eternal. We

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Speaker 2: a bit of a mouthful to say the lea. So yeah,

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Speaker 2: money tame. Here you go, seventeen minutes past nine on.

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Speaker 2: You used to seed the Kevin mill. There's the weather

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Speaker 2: this morning killed us Serkyder.

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Speaker 5: I've just heard the name myself, and because I was

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Speaker 2: What a gorgeous name, thanks Kevin. Well, we know from

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Speaker 2: your editorial so that you can't you can't come out

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Speaker 5: Oh no, No, genuinely I love the name. And also

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Speaker 5: it has a kind of slightly Mari feeling feel about

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Speaker 5: it too.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well it does. Yeah, that was part of the consideration.

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Speaker 2: In fact, the so the macron over the A isn't

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Speaker 2: that's not that's not strictly Persian or in Pharisee. But

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Speaker 2: opposed to many you know.

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Speaker 5: Oh okay, yeah, yeah, oh no, that's that's beautiful. I

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Speaker 5: don't know whether you know. But there's there's a Persian

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Speaker 5: sort of link in my relationship with London, is there. Yeah?

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Speaker 5: I met my wife when we were both working for

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Speaker 5: the Iranian oil company.

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Speaker 2: What you worked for the Iranian oil company?

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Speaker 5: How the Iranian Oil company in London?

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Speaker 2: Ah, goodness, man, I had no idea. But this is

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Speaker 2: presumably pre revolution Kiven.

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Speaker 5: Yes, it was just before the revolution. Was pretty much

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Speaker 5: I could have gone, then, I suppose, yeah, as getting

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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, yeah, well I'm in here. There's certainly lots

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Speaker 2: But anyway, like anyone who has come even remotely close

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Speaker 5: I'm talking about Bresident Donald Trump, like everybody else has

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Speaker 5: I checked online and several reputable posters have asked New

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Speaker 5: a quarter of New Zealanders said that they would have

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Speaker 5: voted for Trump three percent. This surprised me at first.

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Speaker 5: I've never spoken to anyone anywhere who has said to

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Speaker 5: This is probably, of course, because I tend to mix

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Speaker 5: with liberal progressives. I think most people who've heard me

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Speaker 5: I'm not a right winger. So the fact they don't

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Speaker 5: you just how polite right wingers can be. Jack. In

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Speaker 5: your private life, has anyone told you they are or

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Speaker 5: would be Trump supporters?

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Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, I got, I've got, I'm free, I've got.

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Speaker 2: I've got friends in America, my closest American friends. One

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Speaker 2: of them is an absolute like Trump die hard. Like

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Speaker 2: when I said Trump die hard, I mean he he

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Speaker 2: would have spent thousands of dollars on Trump merch and

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Speaker 2: lawn signs and T shirts and everything. Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, what about New Zealand.

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Speaker 2: In New Zealand. Do you know, I think I think

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Speaker 2: in New Zealand people are you know, maybe people are

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Speaker 2: his policy agenda to be you know, to be exciting,

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Speaker 2: and and they'll be supportive of that. I mean, John

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Speaker 5: Read of these. It's just that I never actually come

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Speaker 4: Really.

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Speaker 5: We move in our own bubbles increasingly so perhaps. I mean,

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Speaker 5: Either the posters have got it wrong or I'm living

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Speaker 5: Yeah, though, funnily enough, nats make it pretty clear, don't

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Speaker 2: People say the same thing about you, Kevin.

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Speaker 5: That's right. Maybe they don't need to listen to the

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Speaker 2: I live on the Carpety Coast, so there's at least

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Speaker 2: very open about it. Well, there you go. Kevin lives nearby,

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Speaker 4: You know, you will you will find a way, and

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there you go. That's great advice. If only you

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Speaker 4: I think they're relatively strong. I think playing in Dubai.

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Speaker 2: The Indians, there's actually a Netflix series on it. You

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Speaker 4: They will do financially very well.

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Speaker 4: If the black Caps win, the players will, which is

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, can't wait for tomorrow night. Thank you, sir

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Speaker 2: our Sporto Andrew Savill there, thank you for your feedback.

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Speaker 2: As well. Jack, I definitely support Donald Trump. I live

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Speaker 2: in Auckland. Exactly what you said this morning. It's a

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Speaker 2: thank you for that. Ninety two ninety two is our

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Speaker 2: text number, Susie says jackets simple when baby spilling, put

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Speaker 2: is it's not just on the shoulder. I sort of

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Speaker 2: need a cloth on my chest. I need a cloth

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Speaker 2: on my shorts, and need a cloth everywhere, all of

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Speaker 2: my sleeves. But you're right, We've got plenty of cloth

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Speaker 2: going through, plenty of cloth at the moment.

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Speaker 6: I can assure you of that.

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Speaker 2: Right now, it's twenty six minutes to ten. You movie

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Speaker 2: picks next.

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Speaker 3: Fun and you know sleep weeble.

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Speaker 8: Lomal you want me, I want you stay.

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Speaker 2: Problem to you what the key we love affair with

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Speaker 2: country music is just going from strength to strength at

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Speaker 2: the moment.

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Speaker 6: Now.

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Speaker 2: He Luke Holme's here a few weeks ago. Well, Chris

448
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Speaker 2: Stapleton's in the country for the first time ever. He

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Speaker 2: performed his first show last night at Auckland Spark Arena,

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Speaker 2: and he is on again tonight. This is you should

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Speaker 2: probably leave by Chris Stapleton. Anyway, right now, it's twenty

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Speaker 2: three minutes to ten. Time to get your film picks

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Speaker 2: for this week. Francesca rud Can, our film reviewer, is

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Speaker 2: here with a snack ke Elder Morning morning. Okay, we've

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Speaker 2: got a couple of different movies showing in cinemas at

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Speaker 2: the moment, so let's begin with a listen to Mickey seventeen.

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Speaker 9: Honor, nothing was working out and I wanted to get

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Speaker 9: the hell out of there.

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Speaker 10: You're planning to be inexpendable, he read through the paper here.

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Speaker 2: I should have read through it. You're an expendable you heard. Okay,

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Speaker 2: some big names with Mickey seventeen stars Robin Robert Pattinson.

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Speaker 2: It's directed by the guy who directed Parasite and Snow

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Speaker 2: Pierser Yes.

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Speaker 11: Bond, Drew Hoe and he stunned everybody at the twenty

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Speaker 11: twenty Oscars with his film Paradise Parasite. Sorry. He made

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Speaker 11: history by winning Best Picture, and that was the first

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Speaker 11: time a non English language film had one Best Picture.

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Speaker 11: He won Best Director Best International Feature, Best Original Screenplay,

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Speaker 11: an extraordinary film. If you haven't seen it, you should

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Speaker 11: definitely see Parasite. But this is his first film since Parasite,

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Speaker 11: and he probably had the opportunity to do whatever he wanted.

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Speaker 11: I'm sure that studios were probably handing him large franchise

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Speaker 11: films on a plate, telling him he could do whatever

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Speaker 11: he wanted to do, and instead he's made the sort

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Speaker 11: of wonderfully bondering whole film. It's nutty. It's this comical

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Speaker 11: sci fi. It's a satire about sort of the state

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Speaker 11: of humanity. He always likes to focus on the themes

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Speaker 11: that he often reverts back to, all about class and

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Speaker 11: power and exploitation, and he very much does that again

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Speaker 11: with this film. Robert Pattinson, who you mentioned there from

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Speaker 11: Twilight and of course Batman, he really drops his sort

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Speaker 11: of a list star quality for this film and plays

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Speaker 11: this wonderful, meek, quite goofy character Mickey, and he's really

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Speaker 11: keen to get off planet Earth. This is set in

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Speaker 11: the future. He owes some money to a loan shark

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Speaker 11: and things who likes to chop people up as a hobby,

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Speaker 11: so he's very keen to get off Earth. But everybody

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Speaker 11: is keen to get out of Earth. At this point

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Speaker 11: in the future is the competition is fierce to join

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Speaker 11: a colonial word to a new planet. So he signs

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Speaker 11: up as an expendable.

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Speaker 12: And in the.

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Speaker 11: Future, we have worked out how to print people. We're

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Speaker 11: no longer allowed to do it on Earth, but you

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Speaker 11: can do it off Earth. And he doesn't quite know

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Speaker 11: what it means, but he signs up to be this expendable,

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Speaker 11: which means like he's the canary in the mind. He

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Speaker 11: is the guy who can die for whatever reason. They

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Speaker 11: need him too, because they can then immediately reprint him,

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Speaker 11: and he is back the next day. So when we

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Speaker 11: meet Mickey, he's on version number seventeen. And so this

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Speaker 11: is very much a film that looks at humans. It

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Speaker 11: looks at how they're expendable. It's how we're all expendable

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Speaker 11: in the workplace. This is a film, even though it's

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Speaker 11: set in the future, is very much about the present,

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Speaker 11: as you mentioned. Great cast also stars Tony Collette and

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Speaker 11: Mark Ruffalo. I really loved this premise and I think

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Speaker 11: it starts out very strong. It gets a little lost

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Speaker 11: in the middle, but it does finish well. I love

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Speaker 11: the fact that as far as this is a considering

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Speaker 11: that this is a sci fi film, it's very low fi.

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Speaker 11: It's almost retro futuristic. The spaceship they go on looks

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Speaker 11: like a cargo ship.

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Speaker 5: You know.

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Speaker 11: It's it's not just because we're in the future. We've

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Speaker 11: sorted everything out and everything's slick and flashing gray. Actually

517
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Speaker 11: it's still all a bit rough. I think this is

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Speaker 11: going to be quite polarizing, this film. I think you're

519
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Speaker 11: either going to fall in love with its quirkiness and

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Speaker 11: enjoy it sense of humor, or you'll think, what, yeah,

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Speaker 11: what is he doing that you should never miss a

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Speaker 11: bong during home film?

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Speaker 2: Okay, that sounds great, Well, sounds interesting. Mickey seventeen and

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Speaker 2: would you believe Francisca that, Yes, I have seen Parasite,

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Speaker 2: and I know, I mean, it would just be so

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Speaker 2: mean not to have seen Parasite. But I have seen Parasite,

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Speaker 2: and yeah, share in all of the adoration that has

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Speaker 2: been expressed by so many already, such a good film,

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Speaker 2: So I'll definitely be seeing Mickey seventeen. Next up, let's

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Speaker 2: have a listen to Spit.

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Speaker 13: International Future, The Money and Honor Criminal mastermind John Francis

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Speaker 13: Spettier who lock him up.

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Speaker 3: This is Australia. It's still a free country, isn't it.

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Speaker 2: That is Friend of the show. David Wenham returning as

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Speaker 2: Spit twenty years since the film Getting Squire tell us

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Speaker 2: about Spitt.

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Speaker 11: Yes, this is I love it when a sort of

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Speaker 11: a side character suddenly becomes a lead. And as you say,

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Speaker 11: that's very much what's happened here. And David Wynham, he

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Speaker 11: just does such a beautiful job of stepping into this character.

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Speaker 11: He's just the quintessential Australian bogan and he's got the

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Speaker 11: flip flops and he's got the mullet, and he's got

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Speaker 11: this and he's he plays dumb and sometimes he is dumb,

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Speaker 11: but he always has a bit of a plan because

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Speaker 11: he's a he's a former krim and heroin addict and

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Speaker 11: he's returning to Australia after being after being overseas for

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Speaker 11: a very long time, and he tries to get it

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Speaker 11: on a fake passport and he gets picked up and

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Speaker 11: he gets blocked in the detention center and then off

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Speaker 11: he goes just beautifully kind of trying to manu you know,

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Speaker 11: sort of get himself out of there and sort of

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Speaker 11: you know, and cause a little bit more trouble. He's

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Speaker 11: he's such an infuriating character, yeah for those around him,

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Speaker 11: but he's sort of so good in nature about it.

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Speaker 11: He's such a good natured guy, sort of goofy guy.

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Speaker 11: You can't help but kind of get drawn in to

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Speaker 11: this little journey that he goes on, and he might

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Speaker 11: always be thinking about himself and how to help himself

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Speaker 11: in a situation, but he does sort of take other

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Speaker 11: people along on the way. So look a lot of

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Speaker 11: laughs in here, but for all the laughs in the

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Speaker 11: mad cap scenario, it's a bit of slapstick kind of

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Speaker 11: comedy as well. There are some sort of pointed political barbs,

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Speaker 11: especially around issues such as the refugees and migrants and things,

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Speaker 11: so it certainly doesn't hesitate to also kind of make

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Speaker 11: if you make comments about Australia today and things like that. Yeah,

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Speaker 11: I don't think you don't need to have seen Getting

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Speaker 11: Square to enjoy this film and this character, because he

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Speaker 11: really does. He really does own it. So yeah, good fun.

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Speaker 11: A lot are contrived at times, but good fun. And

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Speaker 11: David Wynham is absolutely fab.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no, he really is. Thank you so much. Frantiska

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Speaker 2: in case you missed it last week. Of course, David

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Speaker 2: Wnham was on the show. He was our feature interview

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Speaker 2: on new Talks EDB last Saturday morning, So if you

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Speaker 2: didn't hear that interview, go to NEWSTALKSHEDB, dot co dot

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Speaker 2: m zed Ford slash Jack and you'll be able to

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Speaker 2: listen to it. David Wenham is just fantastic. So Francesca's

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Speaker 2: film pics for us this week spit that's the Australian

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Speaker 2: one with David Wenham and Mickey seventeen is the latest

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Speaker 2: from Bong ju Ho. Both of those will be on

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Speaker 2: the website as well. Right now. It is sixteen minutes to.

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Speaker 1: Ten Saturday mornings with Jack Day keeping the conversation going

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Speaker 1: through the weekend with bpewre dot co dot in SAD

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Speaker 1: for high quality Supplements.

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Speaker 3: News Talks EDB.

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Speaker 2: Fourteen minutes to ten on news talks 'B after ten o'clock.

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Speaker 2: Our feature interview this morning is Dick Frizzell. He's written

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Speaker 2: this brilliant, this brilliant new memoir that kind of kind

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Speaker 2: of distinguished itself from other memoirs because it's not just

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Speaker 2: a chronological story of his life or anything like that. Really,

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Speaker 2: it's a whole collection of delightful little short stories about

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Speaker 2: growing up in Hawk's Bay in the nineteen fifties and

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Speaker 2: early nineteen sixties. The book is called Hastings, A Boy's

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Speaker 2: Own Adventure, and it really is a boy's own kind

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Speaker 2: of recollection. So it's like Dick and his mates as kids,

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Speaker 2: knocking around with their rifles or real guns in some cases.

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Speaker 2: You know, Dick driving along in an Austin sherborn for

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Speaker 2: the first time once he got his driver's license. All

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Speaker 2: sorts of adventures in Hastings in the nineteen fifties and

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Speaker 2: sixties kind of a you know, to throw back to

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Speaker 2: a more innocent time. But Dick is just a delightful storyteller,

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Speaker 2: so he's gonna be with us right after ten. It's

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Speaker 2: going to tell us a bit more about Hastings, a

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Speaker 2: Boy's Own Adventure. Right now, though, it's time to catch

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Speaker 2: up with our cook, Nicki Wicks and Nicki. It is

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Speaker 2: that time of year where we need to start get

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Speaker 2: where we need to start bottling and jarring and jamming

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Speaker 2: and preserving and rushing because the weather is turning.

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Speaker 14: I know, in fact, we at this stage we are

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Speaker 14: trying to preserve time. Literally, we are trying to sort

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Speaker 14: of catch the well. It isn't summer anymore. It's awesome,

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Speaker 14: and we're still over flowing with all this produce. But honestly,

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Speaker 14: I really need to kind of buck up my own

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Speaker 14: ideas too, because soon it will be over and then

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Speaker 14: we're into the kind of winter fear, which is slimpickins.

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Speaker 14: And it's a funny old time because we're also a

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Speaker 14: little bit tired of tomatoes, maybe because you've had so

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Speaker 14: many of them, and yet you know, turn those into

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Speaker 14: a little pasta sauce. Freeze them, freeze that pasta sauce,

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Speaker 14: and you are going to be so happy for the

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Speaker 14: taste of summer a couple of months, let me tell you.

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Speaker 14: And pears. Somebody gave me a beautiful bucket of pears

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Speaker 14: from a very old tree out Beechland's Way, and I've

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Speaker 14: had them sitting around for as. I've eaten a few

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Speaker 14: of them, but they're not particularly ripe and they haven't

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Speaker 14: really ripened up. So time to make chutney's. You know,

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Speaker 14: chutney's with pears, Oh pier is just great for a chutney.

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Speaker 14: So look I threw this together. It's a really great

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Speaker 14: all round chutney. It's not too finnickety, it's dead easy.

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Speaker 14: I took a large onion, chopped it up finally, and

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Speaker 14: it was about two hundred grams. I did kind of

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Speaker 14: weigh it for our listeners. It was about two hundred grams.

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Speaker 14: In the end of chopped onion. I had a one

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Speaker 14: kg of chopped pears. Once I've sort of called them.

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Speaker 14: I didn't bother peeling them because I'm a way too

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Speaker 14: lazy for that, so I just chopped them up. And

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Speaker 14: as I say that were quite hard pears, they were

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Speaker 14: exactly all that soft. I grabbed two apples because I

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Speaker 14: had those off a neighborhood tree. I chopped out all

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Speaker 14: of the brown rot from them and chopped those up

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Speaker 14: skin on. Of course, two hundred and fifty grams of

643
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Speaker 14: brown sugar, which is probably about a cup of it,

644
00:33:38,053 --> 00:33:42,373
Speaker 14: really quite well packed. Two hundred grams of sultana's, although

645
00:33:42,373 --> 00:33:44,453
Speaker 14: I ran out of sultana's, so I put half and

646
00:33:44,533 --> 00:33:47,533
Speaker 14: half of currants and sultanas in there, and I wasn't sorry.

647
00:33:48,293 --> 00:33:51,053
Speaker 14: Three hundred mills of apple side of vinegar. You could

648
00:33:51,133 --> 00:33:52,853
Speaker 14: use any vinegar in here. You want to use a

649
00:33:52,933 --> 00:33:55,613
Speaker 14: cheap Issha vinegar you could use malt vinegar, but I

650
00:33:55,693 --> 00:33:58,733
Speaker 14: find it quite quite quite strong, so I just used

651
00:33:58,733 --> 00:34:00,773
Speaker 14: three just a bit over a cup of apple side

652
00:34:00,773 --> 00:34:02,693
Speaker 14: of vinegar. And then I thought, well, what do I

653
00:34:02,733 --> 00:34:04,213
Speaker 14: want to flavor this with? So I went with a

654
00:34:04,213 --> 00:34:09,893
Speaker 14: teaspoon of fennel seeds, a teaspoon of ground allspice, half

655
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Speaker 14: a teaspoon of freshly ground black pepper, and a teaspoon

656
00:34:13,493 --> 00:34:16,093
Speaker 14: of salt. So in there it all went into a

657
00:34:16,093 --> 00:34:17,373
Speaker 14: big pot, and you want to bring it to the

658
00:34:17,413 --> 00:34:19,813
Speaker 14: boil kind of slowly. You don't want to go hard

659
00:34:19,813 --> 00:34:22,093
Speaker 14: and fast. It will stick to the bottom. And then

660
00:34:22,133 --> 00:34:24,333
Speaker 14: I just reduced the heat jack and I let it

661
00:34:24,413 --> 00:34:27,173
Speaker 14: happily similar away for about an hour and an hour

662
00:34:27,173 --> 00:34:30,493
Speaker 14: and a half. The onions were soft, the pears were

663
00:34:30,533 --> 00:34:33,053
Speaker 14: getting there as well. But then when I looked at it,

664
00:34:33,133 --> 00:34:35,093
Speaker 14: I thought, it's kind of ready. If I start reducing

665
00:34:35,093 --> 00:34:36,893
Speaker 14: it anymore, I'm going to get half a jar out

666
00:34:36,933 --> 00:34:39,813
Speaker 14: of this, right, So don't wait till it goes really thick.

667
00:34:39,893 --> 00:34:41,813
Speaker 14: I then wanted to get in there, and I wanted

668
00:34:41,853 --> 00:34:43,693
Speaker 14: to kind of mash it or make it a little

669
00:34:43,693 --> 00:34:45,853
Speaker 14: bit pulpy, but I didn't want to take to it

670
00:34:45,893 --> 00:34:48,493
Speaker 14: with a blender because I still wanted it chunky. So

671
00:34:48,773 --> 00:34:51,053
Speaker 14: I looked on the wall where I hang my old

672
00:34:51,053 --> 00:34:53,613
Speaker 14: fashioned egg beater, and I got that out. I thought,

673
00:34:53,653 --> 00:34:56,733
Speaker 14: I wonder if this will work? Worked a treat kind

674
00:34:56,733 --> 00:34:58,053
Speaker 14: of yeah, I had, I.

675
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Speaker 2: Sort of you mean the old hand ones, right, the

676
00:35:00,173 --> 00:35:02,093
Speaker 2: old yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.

677
00:35:02,333 --> 00:35:03,933
Speaker 14: And I and I beat it until it was just

678
00:35:03,973 --> 00:35:06,693
Speaker 14: a little bit pulpy, which was great. That's to help

679
00:35:06,733 --> 00:35:09,853
Speaker 14: thicken it up. I'd already heated some jars to see

680
00:35:09,853 --> 00:35:12,453
Speaker 14: it sterilize them at one hundred and fifty degrees celsius

681
00:35:12,493 --> 00:35:15,373
Speaker 14: for about ten minutes in the oven, and I pour

682
00:35:15,573 --> 00:35:18,413
Speaker 14: always pour some boiling water over the lids to sterilize them.

683
00:35:18,533 --> 00:35:20,653
Speaker 14: Then I just spoon to the hot chutney into the

684
00:35:20,693 --> 00:35:24,053
Speaker 14: hot jars. If you go hot chutney into cold jars, you,

685
00:35:24,293 --> 00:35:26,293
Speaker 14: regardless of whether they've been sterilized, you're going to crack

686
00:35:26,293 --> 00:35:28,413
Speaker 14: your jars. I've done that too many times in my life.

687
00:35:28,613 --> 00:35:31,333
Speaker 14: So hot chutney into hot jars, and then I ran

688
00:35:31,373 --> 00:35:33,453
Speaker 14: a knife around the inside because it was quite a

689
00:35:33,533 --> 00:35:36,893
Speaker 14: sort of thick, nice chunky chutney, and you get a

690
00:35:36,893 --> 00:35:38,733
Speaker 14: bit of you know, you get air bubbles in there.

691
00:35:38,773 --> 00:35:40,693
Speaker 14: You don't really put those in there, because they don't

692
00:35:40,693 --> 00:35:42,773
Speaker 14: look good for a start, and they take up valuable space.

693
00:35:42,813 --> 00:35:44,573
Speaker 14: So just run a knife around them. You can poke

694
00:35:44,573 --> 00:35:48,333
Speaker 14: those air bottles that those air bubbles out, wipe the

695
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Speaker 14: rims clean and place.

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00:35:49,893 --> 00:35:50,333
Speaker 10: The lids on.

697
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Speaker 14: And then my top tip is probably to wipe the

698
00:35:52,733 --> 00:35:57,173
Speaker 14: jars clean while they're still hot, because once it solidifies,

699
00:35:57,573 --> 00:36:00,973
Speaker 14: it's a real pain. So they're piping hot. Wipe the

700
00:36:01,053 --> 00:36:01,573
Speaker 14: rims air.

701
00:36:01,653 --> 00:36:04,573
Speaker 2: It is such a good time, I know, I know.

702
00:36:04,733 --> 00:36:07,253
Speaker 14: Otherwise you call them down because oh yeah, it'll be

703
00:36:07,293 --> 00:36:09,493
Speaker 14: easy to handle it and it's a nightmare. So you

704
00:36:09,933 --> 00:36:12,533
Speaker 14: put that little tightly and then just leave them. And

705
00:36:12,573 --> 00:36:15,773
Speaker 14: I like to leave this chutney for about three weeks

706
00:36:15,773 --> 00:36:17,333
Speaker 14: if I can. I always have a little bit left

707
00:36:17,373 --> 00:36:19,693
Speaker 14: over that I can use straight away. But the difference

708
00:36:19,733 --> 00:36:22,213
Speaker 14: in the taste of it three weeks after you've bottled

709
00:36:22,253 --> 00:36:25,933
Speaker 14: it is extraordinary. Those flavors are really married and all

710
00:36:25,973 --> 00:36:28,133
Speaker 14: the different spices have really managed to kind of do

711
00:36:28,213 --> 00:36:30,813
Speaker 14: their magic. And this sort of chutney's got enough sugar,

712
00:36:30,933 --> 00:36:33,813
Speaker 14: enough vinegar, and it'll last up for to twelve months,

713
00:36:33,893 --> 00:36:34,573
Speaker 14: probably longer.

714
00:36:34,733 --> 00:36:38,973
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's amazing. How many jars I got.

715
00:36:38,933 --> 00:36:41,933
Speaker 14: Kind of four to five medium jars. One of them

716
00:36:41,933 --> 00:36:44,453
Speaker 14: was quite right, but yeah, so plenty. Really, I was

717
00:36:44,493 --> 00:36:47,853
Speaker 14: really surprised. Again, if you keep on reducing chutneys and

718
00:36:47,893 --> 00:36:51,253
Speaker 14: sauces and things till you see that kind of till

719
00:36:51,293 --> 00:36:54,653
Speaker 14: it's thickened, you will then end up with belly any chutney.

720
00:36:54,853 --> 00:36:55,973
Speaker 14: It goes the same for jams.

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Speaker 2: You've got to remember it's a balance. It's a balance.

722
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Speaker 6: It's a balance.

723
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Speaker 8: This.

724
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Speaker 14: Oh, listen to you speaking like a three week old period.

725
00:37:03,133 --> 00:37:05,293
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a balances the balance.

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Speaker 14: I love your.

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Speaker 2: Jack ah so good. Hey, thank you. We're going to

728
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Speaker 2: make sure we put that recipe up on the News

729
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Speaker 2: Talks heb website so everyone can follow along at home,

730
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Speaker 2: make sure they make the most of the last of

731
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Speaker 2: those summer fruits. As we head into water. I think

732
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Speaker 2: the whend of the season is officially changed in another

733
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Speaker 2: week and a half or so, right, but I think

734
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Speaker 2: all around the country was underfeel the ear temperature dropped

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Speaker 2: just a little bit. Thank you, Nicky. Nicky Wicks is

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Speaker 2: our cook on News Talks. He'd be right now. It

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Speaker 2: is seven to ten.

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Speaker 3: Giving you the inside scoop on all you need to us.

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Speaker 2: Much for your feedback this morning regarding gas. Jack. Can't

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Speaker 2: yourself lucky? Says muzz. Can't you soulf lucky? You don't

744
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Speaker 2: you use cloth nappies? I was appearing in that era

745
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Speaker 2: and it was horrible. Let me tell you, yes, Malls,

746
00:37:52,653 --> 00:37:54,773
Speaker 2: I do have memories as a child, being the oldest

747
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Speaker 2: of four of various buckets of things stewing away in

748
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Speaker 2: the laundry for days on end. Jack says, Anita, give

749
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Speaker 2: your wife some pure mango juice with some grated nutbeg

750
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Speaker 2: to drink some fresh mint. He only minted water. That'll

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Speaker 2: ceter right down. I settle a little gems tummy right down.

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Speaker 2: I hope it works, Thanks Anita. Jack loved what you

753
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Speaker 2: said regarding burping babies this morning. I gotta say though,

754
00:38:18,173 --> 00:38:20,453
Speaker 2: it brought back some memories, and if your experience is

755
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Speaker 2: anything like ours, you should be stealing yourself for at

756
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Speaker 2: least another eighteen months, surely not only town only two.

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Speaker 2: Dick Frizzell is going to tell us about growing up

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Speaker 2: in Hastings in the fifties and sixties and his fantastic

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Speaker 2: new memoir. News is next. It's almost ten o'clock. I'm

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Speaker 2: Jack Tam and this is Newstalk's He'd Be.

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Speaker 2: Good morning, Welcome to News Talks eDV. I'm Jack Tayne

771
00:39:33,853 --> 00:39:37,093
Speaker 2: with you through the midday today and my guest this

772
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Speaker 2: morning live in studio is a bona fide legend of

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Speaker 2: the New Zealand visual arts scene. Dick Grizell is of

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Speaker 2: course known for his Kiwiana icons think the four Square

775
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Speaker 2: Man with Mock or Mickey Taticki, but has worked across

776
00:39:51,453 --> 00:39:54,853
Speaker 2: so many mediums and is about to release a fantastic

777
00:39:55,133 --> 00:39:58,333
Speaker 2: new memoir. The book is called Hastings, a Boy's Own

778
00:39:58,373 --> 00:40:01,533
Speaker 2: Adventure and it's a collection of stories that Dick has

779
00:40:01,573 --> 00:40:05,293
Speaker 2: written about life growing up on the East Coast in

780
00:40:05,333 --> 00:40:07,413
Speaker 2: the nineteen fifties and in nineteen sixties.

781
00:40:07,773 --> 00:40:08,493
Speaker 6: Dick's here with us.

782
00:40:08,413 --> 00:40:10,773
Speaker 2: This morning, held a good morning, good morning. Hey, I

783
00:40:11,533 --> 00:40:13,373
Speaker 2: just love the concept. I've just said this to you

784
00:40:13,573 --> 00:40:16,013
Speaker 2: off microphone. I just I love how you've gone about

785
00:40:16,013 --> 00:40:20,733
Speaker 2: writing this. You've really illustrated a kind of vivid, a

786
00:40:20,813 --> 00:40:23,533
Speaker 2: vivid picture of your childhood. And I really delighted in

787
00:40:23,533 --> 00:40:24,493
Speaker 2: the way you've gone about this.

788
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Speaker 7: Thank you.

789
00:40:25,373 --> 00:40:28,213
Speaker 2: But just tell us about tell us about how your

790
00:40:28,213 --> 00:40:30,093
Speaker 2: family ended up in Hastings in the first place, because

791
00:40:30,093 --> 00:40:31,213
Speaker 2: you were actually born in Auckland, right.

792
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Speaker 16: I was born in Auckland, out at Mount Albert, a

793
00:40:33,773 --> 00:40:38,773
Speaker 16: little nursing home that's still there only enough. But when

794
00:40:39,133 --> 00:40:41,733
Speaker 16: my father was in the Merchant Navy, an engineer in

795
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Speaker 16: the Merchant Navy, and the deal was that he'd come

796
00:40:43,773 --> 00:40:47,013
Speaker 16: ashore when I was born. So he came ashore and

797
00:40:47,053 --> 00:40:49,933
Speaker 16: got a job on the Dredge and the Aukland. But

798
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Speaker 16: as I said in the book, I think the Dredge

799
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Speaker 16: was a bit of an anti climax after the convoys

800
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Speaker 16: in the Pacific and his sister's back in Hastings, which

801
00:40:58,493 --> 00:41:00,613
Speaker 16: is sort of the family seat if you like that, right,

802
00:41:00,693 --> 00:41:06,373
Speaker 16: it sounds grand. They offered him this really cheap life

803
00:41:06,453 --> 00:41:11,893
Speaker 16: own too, if you go back to Hastings.

804
00:41:11,213 --> 00:41:12,893
Speaker 7: Back to where all the other Brazils were.

805
00:41:13,653 --> 00:41:20,373
Speaker 16: And and Dad, who was a bit strangely unambitious, thought,

806
00:41:20,453 --> 00:41:24,533
Speaker 16: oh yeah, he just kind of just did it. So

807
00:41:24,573 --> 00:41:27,413
Speaker 16: we left our lovely little sunny flat and Pickton Street

808
00:41:27,453 --> 00:41:30,853
Speaker 16: and went to the dim little cottage and the shadow

809
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Speaker 16: of Tomato Freezing.

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00:41:31,933 --> 00:41:36,333
Speaker 2: Works, which is which is I mean, you moved around

811
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Speaker 2: a little bit, but that's that's where you spent your childhood,

812
00:41:39,173 --> 00:41:40,933
Speaker 2: and you you kind of I mean, the boys own

813
00:41:41,573 --> 00:41:45,373
Speaker 2: is totally such a such a good description, because really,

814
00:41:45,413 --> 00:41:47,813
Speaker 2: this is a collection of adventures that you had as

815
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Speaker 2: a little boy.

816
00:41:49,533 --> 00:41:51,453
Speaker 16: I didn't want to. I didn't see that to write

817
00:41:51,453 --> 00:41:53,373
Speaker 16: a memoir as such.

818
00:41:53,493 --> 00:41:53,693
Speaker 7: You know.

819
00:41:53,773 --> 00:41:55,373
Speaker 16: Then I did this, and then I did that, and

820
00:41:55,373 --> 00:41:58,493
Speaker 16: then I went on here and I wrote I wrote

821
00:41:58,813 --> 00:42:01,413
Speaker 16: that thing about me writing a short story for a

822
00:42:01,533 --> 00:42:04,573
Speaker 16: short story competition on national radio.

823
00:42:05,333 --> 00:42:05,933
Speaker 5: Uh.

824
00:42:06,413 --> 00:42:08,493
Speaker 16: And then I couldn't submit it. I think I got

825
00:42:08,493 --> 00:42:11,013
Speaker 16: it wrong. It said if you were I thought it

826
00:42:11,013 --> 00:42:13,213
Speaker 16: said if you were a published author, you couldn't submit

827
00:42:13,293 --> 00:42:15,413
Speaker 16: but I think it actually said if the story had

828
00:42:15,413 --> 00:42:18,053
Speaker 16: been published, you couldn't submit it. And I got it

829
00:42:18,093 --> 00:42:20,373
Speaker 16: wrong as usual, which is the story of my life.

830
00:42:20,773 --> 00:42:23,493
Speaker 16: My great guiding principle, just get everything wrong and it

831
00:42:23,573 --> 00:42:28,373
Speaker 16: would be better than ever. I didn't submit it, but

832
00:42:28,453 --> 00:42:31,333
Speaker 16: it got me going, and I've got me thinking about

833
00:42:31,573 --> 00:42:36,813
Speaker 16: how the memory works. And I just all those stories,

834
00:42:37,213 --> 00:42:41,093
Speaker 16: why don't I just write them down? Because I can write,

835
00:42:41,253 --> 00:42:43,773
Speaker 16: you know, writing. Taught myself to write with that diet

836
00:42:43,933 --> 00:42:49,493
Speaker 16: journal and things, and once I started, I just couldn't

837
00:42:49,493 --> 00:42:54,653
Speaker 16: get over the phenomena of recall, fake or otherwise, you

838
00:42:54,693 --> 00:42:57,293
Speaker 16: know what I mean. It just poured out of the

839
00:42:57,293 --> 00:42:59,133
Speaker 16: pen because I write with a pencil, because I can

840
00:42:59,693 --> 00:43:03,253
Speaker 16: write longhand quicker than I can type. And then if

841
00:43:03,293 --> 00:43:06,133
Speaker 16: I write into those mulking notebooks, and that became a thing,

842
00:43:06,413 --> 00:43:09,893
Speaker 16: the romantic idea of the mole skin notebooks and everything else.

843
00:43:10,573 --> 00:43:13,173
Speaker 16: Of course, you can carry it with you, you carry

844
00:43:13,213 --> 00:43:15,733
Speaker 16: there's your pen and your pencil and your pad. You

845
00:43:15,733 --> 00:43:17,613
Speaker 16: can write them right on the moon, you know.

846
00:43:17,773 --> 00:43:18,293
Speaker 12: Yeah, of course.

847
00:43:18,693 --> 00:43:19,213
Speaker 6: Yeah.

848
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Speaker 2: That story you're referencing is one of thirty that's in

849
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Speaker 2: the book, and that's called Fish in the Barrel. Yes, yes,

850
00:43:26,453 --> 00:43:27,893
Speaker 2: it is the story of you and you and you

851
00:43:28,013 --> 00:43:31,693
Speaker 2: and a couple of mates who, as kids decided that

852
00:43:31,773 --> 00:43:33,933
Speaker 2: you have a go at literally shooting a fish in

853
00:43:33,933 --> 00:43:37,613
Speaker 2: a barrel. Right, how did that go down?

854
00:43:38,293 --> 00:43:40,013
Speaker 7: Well, it was a disaster.

855
00:43:40,853 --> 00:43:42,933
Speaker 16: It should be called shooting fish and a half barrel,

856
00:43:43,493 --> 00:43:51,013
Speaker 16: really standing over a half barrel with a three three right, Yeah, yeah,

857
00:43:51,053 --> 00:43:54,213
Speaker 16: that was funny. That was That was That story was

858
00:43:54,253 --> 00:43:57,373
Speaker 16: a collection of incidents that I kind of wove together.

859
00:43:59,493 --> 00:44:02,053
Speaker 16: It wasn't sort of quite as straight out as it

860
00:44:02,173 --> 00:44:05,173
Speaker 16: sounds in the book, but it kind of more or

861
00:44:05,253 --> 00:44:06,613
Speaker 16: less was this.

862
00:44:06,613 --> 00:44:08,293
Speaker 2: This is the funny thing, isn't it. I mean it's

863
00:44:08,133 --> 00:44:11,933
Speaker 2: a it is you know, a few decades since the

864
00:44:11,933 --> 00:44:15,773
Speaker 2: fifties and early sixties, and yeah, and I mean these

865
00:44:15,813 --> 00:44:20,053
Speaker 2: are beautifully collected stories, but I mean I struggle to

866
00:44:20,133 --> 00:44:22,373
Speaker 2: remember things from a couple of weeks ago, clearly, And

867
00:44:22,373 --> 00:44:23,933
Speaker 2: so I suppose that this has been a kind of

868
00:44:23,973 --> 00:44:25,693
Speaker 2: interesting experience in that perspective.

869
00:44:26,133 --> 00:44:30,733
Speaker 16: Well, yes, I mean people have often my family whatever,

870
00:44:30,773 --> 00:44:34,453
Speaker 16: have commented about my memory. Is if I'm just making

871
00:44:34,453 --> 00:44:36,213
Speaker 16: it up all the time. There he goes again, you know,

872
00:44:37,133 --> 00:44:41,093
Speaker 16: like the silly old uncle. And and then I thought, well,

873
00:44:41,133 --> 00:44:45,213
Speaker 16: there is. Maybe I have got an interesting memory, and

874
00:44:45,493 --> 00:44:49,413
Speaker 16: because I assumed everyone remember things like that, I think

875
00:44:49,413 --> 00:44:52,133
Speaker 16: it's something to do with my visual memory too. Being

876
00:44:52,173 --> 00:44:56,373
Speaker 16: an artist, I do remember things like like a movie

877
00:44:56,493 --> 00:45:00,453
Speaker 16: or like a painting, right, like a tableau. That's I

878
00:45:00,733 --> 00:45:03,893
Speaker 16: used that word before. That's exactly like every story is

879
00:45:03,933 --> 00:45:05,773
Speaker 16: an assemblage of tableaus.

880
00:45:05,853 --> 00:45:06,493
Speaker 7: If you're read.

881
00:45:06,533 --> 00:45:09,893
Speaker 16: Them, you can see those boys standing around the barrel.

882
00:45:10,293 --> 00:45:12,693
Speaker 16: Why that kid gets up climbs up on top of it,

883
00:45:13,253 --> 00:45:14,813
Speaker 16: you know, and you can just see them, can't you,

884
00:45:14,893 --> 00:45:17,173
Speaker 16: even though I'm one of them. Yeah, you know, But

885
00:45:17,253 --> 00:45:20,133
Speaker 16: I was like, I'm there, but I'm actually standing watching

886
00:45:20,173 --> 00:45:22,053
Speaker 16: as well, like a time traveler.

887
00:45:22,693 --> 00:45:24,573
Speaker 6: That's the trick, steering down on it.

888
00:45:24,733 --> 00:45:27,413
Speaker 16: Yeah yeah, yeah, no, just standing back under the macro

889
00:45:27,573 --> 00:45:32,253
Speaker 16: carp is watching thinking, oh god, you know, get out

890
00:45:32,253 --> 00:45:33,053
Speaker 16: of the way, guys.

891
00:45:33,253 --> 00:45:34,733
Speaker 2: I hope we're not giving too much a way to

892
00:45:34,773 --> 00:45:37,893
Speaker 2: say that the fish survived. It's lucky the boys did too.

893
00:45:38,053 --> 00:45:39,333
Speaker 7: It's only one of them surviving.

894
00:45:39,413 --> 00:45:41,933
Speaker 16: Yes, yes, but when I keep I tried to keep

895
00:45:41,973 --> 00:45:44,933
Speaker 16: it alive with snacks biscuits, and I think the salt Mudey.

896
00:45:45,373 --> 00:45:46,173
Speaker 2: Got them in the end.

897
00:45:46,293 --> 00:45:46,893
Speaker 6: Yeah. Yeah.

898
00:45:49,893 --> 00:45:55,893
Speaker 2: As someone who we associate so strongly with visual art.

899
00:45:56,093 --> 00:46:00,053
Speaker 2: How do you find storytelling and writing for the eye,

900
00:46:00,133 --> 00:46:02,693
Speaker 2: how do you find that as a different creative pursuit.

901
00:46:03,493 --> 00:46:07,813
Speaker 16: Well, the only the only difference that is the mobility,

902
00:46:07,893 --> 00:46:10,333
Speaker 16: of the astonishing mobility of it. You don't need all

903
00:46:10,373 --> 00:46:13,173
Speaker 16: the paraphernalia of the paint and the easels and the

904
00:46:13,253 --> 00:46:20,293
Speaker 16: space and the god knows what. And it's the kind

905
00:46:20,293 --> 00:46:23,293
Speaker 16: of transparency is the trick. That's what I mean. I

906
00:46:23,293 --> 00:46:27,813
Speaker 16: think my paintings are. That's what they're about. There's no

907
00:46:27,933 --> 00:46:32,973
Speaker 16: sort of conceptual skullduggery or whatever you want to call it.

908
00:46:32,973 --> 00:46:37,533
Speaker 16: It's just like the thing just laid out, like the landscapes,

909
00:46:37,653 --> 00:46:41,373
Speaker 16: just completely laid out. There's no well, I mean there's

910
00:46:41,373 --> 00:46:44,693
Speaker 16: conceptual ideas involved in they're about construction and whatever, but

911
00:46:45,453 --> 00:46:49,293
Speaker 16: it's the same with the writing. But if it's about openness,

912
00:46:49,493 --> 00:46:54,413
Speaker 16: really like leaving yourself wide open and just risking some

913
00:46:54,453 --> 00:46:58,093
Speaker 16: sort of integrity to leak through, I mean something like that. Yeah,

914
00:46:58,493 --> 00:46:59,573
Speaker 16: it's the same spirit.

915
00:47:00,013 --> 00:47:00,733
Speaker 7: Yeah, if you like.

916
00:47:00,853 --> 00:47:03,333
Speaker 2: Yeah, So I'm just going to give our listeners a

917
00:47:03,333 --> 00:47:04,853
Speaker 2: bit of a kind of flavor of some of the

918
00:47:04,893 --> 00:47:07,453
Speaker 2: stories that are in this as well as shooting fish

919
00:47:07,493 --> 00:47:11,893
Speaker 2: in the barrel. There are stories about kind of foundational

920
00:47:11,933 --> 00:47:14,253
Speaker 2: things in your childhood. I love the story about when

921
00:47:14,253 --> 00:47:17,533
Speaker 2: you went to hospital after an appendix issue and the

922
00:47:17,573 --> 00:47:20,613
Speaker 2: different characters who were turning up and not because you

923
00:47:20,613 --> 00:47:22,973
Speaker 2: got put in in an adult war as opposed to

924
00:47:23,053 --> 00:47:23,453
Speaker 2: in the kids.

925
00:47:23,853 --> 00:47:26,213
Speaker 16: Well this is see, this is the magic thing that

926
00:47:26,253 --> 00:47:29,813
Speaker 16: how things happen. Yeah, you know, like these things that

927
00:47:29,933 --> 00:47:32,613
Speaker 16: happened to you like that, I mean, it was magic that.

928
00:47:32,773 --> 00:47:35,373
Speaker 16: Then it became the sort of mascot figure in the war,

929
00:47:35,573 --> 00:47:35,893
Speaker 16: you know.

930
00:47:36,933 --> 00:47:40,253
Speaker 2: And the nurses, the nurses were preparing for a ball.

931
00:47:41,013 --> 00:47:41,453
Speaker 7: Gorgeous.

932
00:47:42,253 --> 00:47:44,893
Speaker 16: Honestly, I got goosebumps and I wrote that.

933
00:47:45,213 --> 00:47:49,733
Speaker 2: Yeah, so yeah, there's that. It's funny because my dad

934
00:47:49,773 --> 00:47:53,133
Speaker 2: is of a very similar generation, same generation, and he

935
00:47:53,893 --> 00:47:55,613
Speaker 2: when we asked him about his childhood, I remember he

936
00:47:55,653 --> 00:47:57,253
Speaker 2: would always tell us about the time that he broke

937
00:47:57,293 --> 00:47:59,853
Speaker 2: his femur and spent a couple of months in hospital attraction.

938
00:47:59,973 --> 00:48:03,533
Speaker 2: And it's funny, how you know, just reading your story

939
00:48:03,573 --> 00:48:05,373
Speaker 2: reminded me of that, and how you know, going to

940
00:48:05,453 --> 00:48:09,173
Speaker 2: hospital as a little boy is like a really kind

941
00:48:09,173 --> 00:48:14,293
Speaker 2: of exciting and you know, quite affecting experience. Learning to drive,

942
00:48:14,373 --> 00:48:16,413
Speaker 2: of course, in Austin Sherborne.

943
00:48:16,653 --> 00:48:18,613
Speaker 7: We never called it the Shoeborn. We didn't know it

944
00:48:18,613 --> 00:48:20,893
Speaker 7: was a shoe now Austin Austin.

945
00:48:21,093 --> 00:48:26,253
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, but it's sort of it does kind of

946
00:48:26,253 --> 00:48:28,853
Speaker 2: throw back to what feels like a more innocent time.

947
00:48:29,373 --> 00:48:32,653
Speaker 16: Well, it was innocently because there are so many I mean,

948
00:48:33,293 --> 00:48:36,093
Speaker 16: the media was limited and it's excess to anything. And

949
00:48:36,133 --> 00:48:38,413
Speaker 16: we used to see newsreels at the cinema that was

950
00:48:38,453 --> 00:48:41,573
Speaker 16: about it, really, yeah, with all those soldiers marching along

951
00:48:41,693 --> 00:48:45,853
Speaker 16: black and white, you know, yeah, and that was all

952
00:48:45,973 --> 00:48:48,573
Speaker 16: over there. It's kind of vague that you never got

953
00:48:48,853 --> 00:48:50,653
Speaker 16: updates on the war or anything, you know.

954
00:48:50,733 --> 00:48:53,453
Speaker 2: Because you would have just you were born in forty three, right,

955
00:48:53,533 --> 00:48:56,453
Speaker 2: so you yeah, yeah, so I suppose Korea was still

956
00:48:56,853 --> 00:48:59,533
Speaker 2: you know, was was maybe underway when you were old

957
00:48:59,613 --> 00:49:00,773
Speaker 2: enough to remember it better.

958
00:49:00,893 --> 00:49:02,373
Speaker 16: Well, I don't think most of the time we didn't

959
00:49:02,373 --> 00:49:05,173
Speaker 16: know watch which war we were watching. They're all the same.

960
00:49:05,573 --> 00:49:09,973
Speaker 16: There are troops, ships and stuff, you know, and and

961
00:49:10,253 --> 00:49:13,693
Speaker 16: it was a very abstract commodity and there was no

962
00:49:15,093 --> 00:49:17,093
Speaker 16: I mean, the whole book was written in the time,

963
00:49:17,093 --> 00:49:19,733
Speaker 16: and there was like only you wrote letters, you know

964
00:49:19,773 --> 00:49:22,693
Speaker 16: what I mean. So communication was so abstract.

965
00:49:23,253 --> 00:49:23,573
Speaker 7: You know.

966
00:49:23,693 --> 00:49:26,253
Speaker 2: That was one one point that struck out to me.

967
00:49:26,373 --> 00:49:29,093
Speaker 2: So it's the little details that you've that you've recorded

968
00:49:29,093 --> 00:49:30,373
Speaker 2: that make this so special.

969
00:49:30,413 --> 00:49:31,653
Speaker 7: It's definitely about details.

970
00:49:32,213 --> 00:49:33,733
Speaker 2: Well, No, this was the one where you talk about

971
00:49:33,733 --> 00:49:36,093
Speaker 2: your mum because you're you're one of six kids. You

972
00:49:36,093 --> 00:49:39,813
Speaker 2: talk about your mum writing letters to you for years

973
00:49:39,813 --> 00:49:41,813
Speaker 2: to come. Once you'd left, once you'd left Hastings and

974
00:49:41,853 --> 00:49:43,613
Speaker 2: you'd spread your wings and you're all in different parts

975
00:49:43,653 --> 00:49:45,773
Speaker 2: of the country or the world, and your mum would

976
00:49:45,773 --> 00:49:51,053
Speaker 2: send you all I think five pages like a carbon copy. Yeah,

977
00:49:51,133 --> 00:49:53,573
Speaker 2: and then she would have one page original for each child.

978
00:49:54,613 --> 00:49:56,133
Speaker 2: I mean that's delightful.

979
00:49:56,333 --> 00:49:57,373
Speaker 6: Yeah, it is delightful.

980
00:49:57,613 --> 00:50:01,453
Speaker 16: It's so lovely. You know she's of course, she just wrote.

981
00:50:01,573 --> 00:50:04,893
Speaker 16: She just wrote anything about having a cup of tea

982
00:50:04,933 --> 00:50:07,613
Speaker 16: with a lady next door or whatever. And I actually

983
00:50:07,773 --> 00:50:10,293
Speaker 16: was such a little prick really the Varsity and I

984
00:50:10,373 --> 00:50:13,133
Speaker 16: wrote to the mom and I said, look, just why

985
00:50:13,373 --> 00:50:17,293
Speaker 16: didn't you wait till you've got something to say? Cral thing.

986
00:50:17,733 --> 00:50:19,933
Speaker 16: I didn't realize it was just fat at communion.

987
00:50:20,373 --> 00:50:21,733
Speaker 6: Yeah, I didn't know.

988
00:50:21,733 --> 00:50:22,333
Speaker 7: What that was.

989
00:50:22,453 --> 00:50:25,733
Speaker 2: So you listen to Jack Tame on New Books. He'd

990
00:50:25,773 --> 00:50:28,053
Speaker 2: be speaking with Dick Frizelle about his book Hastings, A

991
00:50:28,093 --> 00:50:31,293
Speaker 2: Boy's Own Adventure. It's a memoile of sorts, a collection

992
00:50:31,373 --> 00:50:34,853
Speaker 2: of short stories from his childhood growing up in Hawks Bay.

993
00:50:35,733 --> 00:50:38,853
Speaker 2: Do you reflect fondly on your childhood on that innocent time?

994
00:50:39,053 --> 00:50:40,893
Speaker 7: Oh, very much. I had it.

995
00:50:41,773 --> 00:50:44,573
Speaker 16: I had it all to myself. I mean really, I

996
00:50:44,613 --> 00:50:49,053
Speaker 16: was the firstborn boy prince with his own room, and

997
00:50:49,133 --> 00:50:52,613
Speaker 16: it went like those McDonald duck comics. My sisters weren't

998
00:50:52,653 --> 00:50:55,093
Speaker 16: allowed to read the muntil I'd read them, because I

999
00:50:55,173 --> 00:50:57,133
Speaker 16: used to like, every time you open a page, you

1000
00:50:57,173 --> 00:50:59,253
Speaker 16: get all that ink, fresh ink smell and stuff, and

1001
00:50:59,413 --> 00:51:01,813
Speaker 16: if they read them first, they all those molecules would

1002
00:51:01,813 --> 00:51:02,293
Speaker 16: have escaped.

1003
00:51:02,333 --> 00:51:02,413
Speaker 14: You.

1004
00:51:02,453 --> 00:51:07,253
Speaker 6: See, Yeah, you said that.

1005
00:51:07,693 --> 00:51:10,173
Speaker 2: So you moved to Hastings because your dad got a

1006
00:51:10,213 --> 00:51:12,093
Speaker 2: good deal on a mortgage and he had a good

1007
00:51:12,173 --> 00:51:14,413
Speaker 2: job there. But he was an engineer, so he was

1008
00:51:14,533 --> 00:51:17,173
Speaker 2: very He wasn't artistically minded. He was very kind of

1009
00:51:17,253 --> 00:51:18,213
Speaker 2: utilitarian mind.

1010
00:51:18,533 --> 00:51:22,453
Speaker 16: Utilitarian. He couldn't like, he couldn't understand the point of art,

1011
00:51:23,493 --> 00:51:27,053
Speaker 16: because in his mind everything could be solved with engineering.

1012
00:51:27,533 --> 00:51:31,053
Speaker 7: You didn't need art. It was. He was totally bewildered

1013
00:51:31,093 --> 00:51:33,213
Speaker 7: by the idea where did it fit. And yet he

1014
00:51:33,373 --> 00:51:35,053
Speaker 7: read a lot. He liked his.

1015
00:51:36,533 --> 00:51:41,413
Speaker 16: Novels Raphael Sabatini and all that sort of stuff, and

1016
00:51:41,453 --> 00:51:44,453
Speaker 16: he got me onto reading. But he somehow he didn't

1017
00:51:44,453 --> 00:51:48,813
Speaker 16: equate literally with art, literature with art. It was art

1018
00:51:48,933 --> 00:51:52,213
Speaker 16: was it was just a swanky rubbish over here, you know, funny,

1019
00:51:52,533 --> 00:51:55,653
Speaker 16: really weird. And he was terrified because he'd been in

1020
00:51:55,693 --> 00:52:01,173
Speaker 16: the navy. He seemed to have a really interesting idea

1021
00:52:01,253 --> 00:52:06,013
Speaker 16: about gay what wasn't called gay then, you know, queers

1022
00:52:06,133 --> 00:52:09,333
Speaker 16: and things. Yeah, it's funny saying words like that out loud.

1023
00:52:09,373 --> 00:52:13,053
Speaker 16: But he would say all say strange elliptical things like

1024
00:52:13,053 --> 00:52:16,973
Speaker 16: to me, like just stay away from the bows and Richard,

1025
00:52:17,493 --> 00:52:20,733
Speaker 16: what's that? And then I used to a favorite comic

1026
00:52:20,773 --> 00:52:22,373
Speaker 16: that he used to he bought me when I was

1027
00:52:22,413 --> 00:52:25,053
Speaker 16: six months called Chocolate and the Boson, which was a

1028
00:52:25,093 --> 00:52:30,973
Speaker 16: little black kid with you know, stereotype looking big round

1029
00:52:31,213 --> 00:52:33,813
Speaker 16: eyes and everything. And I used to think, what's this?

1030
00:52:34,493 --> 00:52:37,333
Speaker 16: He was a Boson? Yeah, it's so complicated, I can't

1031
00:52:37,333 --> 00:52:40,773
Speaker 16: tell you, Jack. And and so if I just if

1032
00:52:40,813 --> 00:52:44,933
Speaker 16: I did anything like sigh deeply or whatever, Dad would.

1033
00:52:44,693 --> 00:52:45,693
Speaker 7: Panic and think I was.

1034
00:52:49,573 --> 00:52:52,693
Speaker 2: Because yeah, it was a different time.

1035
00:52:52,813 --> 00:52:53,733
Speaker 6: It was a different times.

1036
00:52:54,373 --> 00:52:57,493
Speaker 7: Yes, it's weird, it's amazing how we've.

1037
00:52:57,333 --> 00:53:02,893
Speaker 2: Got Yeah, yeah, so so. I mean I imagine that a

1038
00:53:02,893 --> 00:53:04,693
Speaker 2: lot of the time when people write mean wise, they

1039
00:53:05,173 --> 00:53:07,253
Speaker 2: do it to kind of, you know, in their own

1040
00:53:07,293 --> 00:53:10,373
Speaker 2: mind and and their readers distinguish between nature and nurture

1041
00:53:10,413 --> 00:53:12,653
Speaker 2: and all that kind of thing and see the different

1042
00:53:12,653 --> 00:53:15,893
Speaker 2: events and people that help shape them become who they become.

1043
00:53:15,933 --> 00:53:17,533
Speaker 2: Do you feel like that was that was part of

1044
00:53:17,533 --> 00:53:18,453
Speaker 2: this process as well?

1045
00:53:18,453 --> 00:53:19,013
Speaker 7: Do you know?

1046
00:53:19,253 --> 00:53:25,013
Speaker 16: I honestly, like I wrote on the forward or the introduction, that.

1047
00:53:24,973 --> 00:53:29,413
Speaker 7: You can you can do that. You can you can set.

1048
00:53:29,173 --> 00:53:32,173
Speaker 16: Out to try and understand yourself, or you can just

1049
00:53:32,533 --> 00:53:35,493
Speaker 16: write stories about yourself. And as I said, I think

1050
00:53:36,013 --> 00:53:39,493
Speaker 16: the former just leaks into the latter. If you if

1051
00:53:39,493 --> 00:53:44,373
Speaker 16: you're just open, if you just let it go, your

1052
00:53:44,413 --> 00:53:47,973
Speaker 16: personality is quickly going to be exposed. You knows who

1053
00:53:48,013 --> 00:53:50,573
Speaker 16: you are and how you came to be. And this

1054
00:53:50,693 --> 00:53:54,533
Speaker 16: kind of slightly dopey observer because I never seem to

1055
00:53:54,693 --> 00:53:59,453
Speaker 16: initiate anything. I was never like that participate, although with

1056
00:53:59,613 --> 00:54:03,213
Speaker 16: all these adventurous layabouts from Havelock North and that would

1057
00:54:03,213 --> 00:54:06,173
Speaker 16: be they would say, let's go and play snooker and

1058
00:54:06,733 --> 00:54:08,133
Speaker 16: you know, you're up in the snooker hall, and I.

1059
00:54:08,133 --> 00:54:10,093
Speaker 7: Would never have dreamed of doing that.

1060
00:54:10,573 --> 00:54:12,173
Speaker 16: Or let's go up here, let's go up here, and

1061
00:54:12,253 --> 00:54:15,093
Speaker 16: let's do this, and they say let's drive up to

1062
00:54:15,133 --> 00:54:17,093
Speaker 16: the top of the Tomato Peak in your mum's car.

1063
00:54:17,173 --> 00:54:19,933
Speaker 16: I'd think, oh God, and I could never say no.

1064
00:54:20,533 --> 00:54:20,933
Speaker 3: So it was.

1065
00:54:21,293 --> 00:54:23,773
Speaker 16: But the thing I had to myself was the art.

1066
00:54:23,933 --> 00:54:27,933
Speaker 16: You see, I initiate. That was my world and they

1067
00:54:28,133 --> 00:54:31,613
Speaker 16: weren't in it at all, so I so the rest

1068
00:54:31,613 --> 00:54:34,413
Speaker 16: of it. I just went along with it. And that's

1069
00:54:34,533 --> 00:54:35,653
Speaker 16: kind of how the book happened.

1070
00:54:35,693 --> 00:54:37,493
Speaker 6: Really, it's a real delight thing.

1071
00:54:37,613 --> 00:54:40,493
Speaker 2: It really is. Hastings a Boy's Own Adventure as a

1072
00:54:40,533 --> 00:54:44,253
Speaker 2: new memoir by Dick Frizell, a collection of wonderful stories

1073
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Speaker 2: about life growing up in Hastings in the fifties and

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Speaker 2: early sixties. Thank you so much for being here.

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Speaker 7: It was a pleasure.

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Speaker 6: Good, No, it really was.

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Speaker 2: We'll make sure all of the details for Dick's book

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Speaker 2: are up and available on the news talks He'd beg website.

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Speaker 2: Right now, it is twenty three minutes past ten. Your

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Speaker 2: screen time picks for this weekend.

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Speaker 1: Next start your Weekend Off in Style. Saturday Mornings with

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Speaker 1: Jack Team and deepe It Dot Coder for high quality Supplements,

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Speaker 1: News talks, v.

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Speaker 2: AH, thank you for your feedback. Jack. An awesome interview

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Speaker 2: with Dick Frizzell this morning. I've got his artwork. Give

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Speaker 2: thanks for a wonderful Saturday, Suzanne, Thank you, Anne. Our

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Speaker 2: ninety two. Ninety two is the text number if you

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Speaker 2: want to send us a message. I've got to say

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Speaker 2: reading Dick's book just reminded me so much of the

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Speaker 2: stories that my dad told me about growing up. Dare

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Speaker 2: grew up in ash Burton in the sixties and the

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Speaker 2: early sixties, and yeah, it's so funny how the kind

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Speaker 2: of analogous for the experiences. So we'll get to more

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Speaker 2: ready feedback very shortly. Right now, though, it's time to

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Speaker 2: catch up with Tara Award our screen time Expert, for

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Speaker 2: her screen time picks for this week's shows to watch

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Speaker 2: your stream at home. Hey Tara, good morning. Okay, let's

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Speaker 2: begin with a show streaming on Neon and Sky Open

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Speaker 2: from tomorrow. Tell us about Secrets at Red Rocks.

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Speaker 17: Yeah, this is a really lovely New New Zealand show

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Speaker 17: that starts tomorrow. It's a drama based on an award

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Speaker 17: winning children's book by Rachel King, and it stars Dominic

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Speaker 17: Hoorna Atiki and Jim Murray Arty. And it was filmed

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Speaker 17: on Wellington's South Coast. And it's about a boy, a

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Speaker 17: twelve year old boy named Jake who arrives to stay

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Speaker 17: with his dad for a bit. He's out exploring on

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Speaker 17: the beach one day when he finds a mysterious sealskin

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Speaker 17: in a cave and he takes the sealskin home and

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Speaker 17: accidentally unlocks this magic spell that puts his whole family

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Speaker 17: in danger. And the story weaves together ancient Malti myth

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Speaker 17: and Celtic lengind with this sort of very modern contemporary

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Speaker 17: setting and gives it a mystical vibe and a touch

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Speaker 17: of the supernatural. And it is essentially a kid's show,

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Speaker 17: but it's screening in primetime on Sky Open Tomorrow night.

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Speaker 17: And I loved this. I watched this with a big

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Speaker 17: smile on my face. It's a show that all the

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Speaker 17: family can watch together. It's warm and magical and quite

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Speaker 17: nostalgic as well. It reminded me a lot of the

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Speaker 17: shows that I grew up watching in the nineteen eighties,

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Speaker 17: those New Zealand cadult dramas that we used to make

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Speaker 17: that were real adventure stories. You know, the kids were

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Speaker 17: the heroes and they got into all sorts of scrapes

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Speaker 17: and solve crimes and this has that similar wholesome but

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Speaker 17: it'd been feel to it and beautifully shot as well.

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Speaker 17: The Wellington Coast is the perfect setting for this story.

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Speaker 17: Don't be put off at don't be put off by

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Speaker 17: it being a kid show, is what I'm saying. It's

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Speaker 17: a really lovely New Zealand drama.

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Speaker 2: Great Okay, this sounds awesome. Secrets at Red Rock So

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Speaker 2: that's on Neon and Sky open from tomorrow on TVNZ plus.

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Speaker 2: Tell Us about Dope Girls.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 17: This is a new British series that just landed on

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Speaker 17: TVNZ Plus today. It's set after World War One in

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Speaker 17: London and it's about what happens as all the men

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Speaker 17: return from the war and the women who have been

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Speaker 17: managing things for the past four years have to readjust

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Speaker 17: and find their place again.

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Speaker 3: And it follows one.

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Speaker 17: Woman who decides to set up a nightclub in Soho.

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Speaker 17: She meets another character who is part of the Female Experiment,

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Speaker 17: which is one of she's one of the first ever

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Speaker 17: female police officers, and they get tangled up with a

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Speaker 17: local crime family who's led by another very strong, dominant woman.

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Speaker 17: So it's about a group of women whose lives crossover

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Speaker 17: at a time when society is changing really quickly and

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Speaker 17: they have to be very inventive and resourceful to survive.

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Speaker 17: And even though this is a historical drama, it feels

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Speaker 17: very modern and theatrical. It's got big energy, it's got

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Speaker 17: a modern soundtrack. It's not one of those dry kind

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Speaker 17: of historical dramas, and it reminded me a lot of

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Speaker 17: peaky Blinders. You've got a bit of crime, you've got

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Speaker 17: some family politics that's set after the war, and it's

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Speaker 17: got some real energy and color to it as well.

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Speaker 2: Cool Okay, that's dope, girls. It's on TVNZ Plus. Also

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Speaker 2: on TVNZ plus.

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Speaker 17: Protection and This is the latest British crime thriller to

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Speaker 17: TVNZ Plus and it stars Chevorn finner And who was

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Speaker 17: in Downtown Abbey and Happy Valley, and she plays a

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Speaker 17: witness protection officer called Liz, who is in charge of

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Speaker 17: protecting a family who are about to testify in a

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Speaker 17: major organized crime trial. She's also having an affair with

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Speaker 17: a married colleague, and when the safety of her witnesses

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Speaker 17: is compromised by the colleague she's having the affair with.

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Speaker 17: Liz needs to find out how this happened. Is she

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Speaker 17: the one who has accidentally compromised this case when she's

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Speaker 17: met up with him and revealed information that she shouldn't

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Speaker 17: or is this corruption coming from somewhere else in her team.

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Speaker 17: This started really well. It begins as a really solid

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Speaker 17: British crime drama and it's got that twist of the

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Speaker 17: witness protection angle, which I really liked. But there were

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Speaker 17: a couple of things at the end of the first

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Speaker 17: episode that were a little bit cliched, and I do

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Speaker 17: wonder if this is going to go off the rails

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Speaker 17: a bit more as it goes on. But Sevarn Finnrant

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Speaker 17: is so good in this. Catherine Kelly stars in this

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Speaker 17: as well, so it's got a great cast. It's definitely

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Speaker 17: worth a watch, I reckon, as long as you don't

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Speaker 17: mind a few crime drama cliches chucked in there as

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Speaker 17: you go along.

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Speaker 2: Yeah right, okay, it's called Protection. That's on TVNZ.

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Speaker 6: Plus.

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Speaker 2: Hey you have Tara I finally caught up, you know

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Speaker 2: how I'm absolutely hopeless at watching shows when they immediately

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Speaker 2: come out, and it takes me months or years to

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Speaker 2: catch up. Well, one of the upsides of having a

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Speaker 2: two and a half week old baby who just loves

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Speaker 2: being up all night is that I have had a

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Speaker 2: little bit of extra time and finally saw The Day

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Speaker 2: of the Jackal. It's so good.

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Speaker 16: I loved it.

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Speaker 2: I just honestly and jeecked it into my veins. It

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Speaker 2: was I just every frame, every minute, loved it, absolutely

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Speaker 2: loved it. So they're making a season two of that now.

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Speaker 2: I think they've anounced, so I'm very very pleased about that. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: so I'm glad to have finally caught up on that recommendation.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much. Tara shows for this week Secrets

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Speaker 2: at Red Rocks. That's on Neon and Sky Open from

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Speaker 2: tomorrow and on TV and Z Plus, Dope Girls and Protection.

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Speaker 2: It has just gone ten thirty.

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Speaker 3: Getting your weekends started.

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Speaker 1: It's Saturday Morning with Jack Team on News Talks.

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Speaker 18: By Leave Me and Ready hear the Love Love of

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Speaker 18: your line.

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Speaker 19: With the.

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Speaker 15: Valuable.

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Speaker 2: You might not know the song yet, You're gonna hear

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Speaker 2: a whole lot of it though you recognize that voice.

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Speaker 2: And I Reckon you will recognize that style as well.

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Speaker 2: That is, of course Lady Gaga, and Gaga has returned

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Speaker 2: to pop. See, there's this thing called recession pop. Apparently

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Speaker 2: Gaga's really closely associated with it. Basically, it's used to

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Speaker 2: describe a genre of music that gained popularity during economic hardship.

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Speaker 2: So it's often upbeat, it's often fun, like a kind

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Speaker 2: of escapist. It kind of contrasts the financial struggles of

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Speaker 2: the economic moment. So if you think about it, Gaga

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Speaker 2: had a breakthrough back in two thousand and eight when

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Speaker 2: she had her first album, The Fame, and of course

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Speaker 2: two thousand and eight had its massive economic crisis. And anyway,

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Speaker 2: her brand new album is kind of a return to

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Speaker 2: that sound. So really high energy, poppy anthems, deeply personal

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Speaker 2: reflective moments, but it's all kind of joyous. So anyway,

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Speaker 2: we're gonna have a bit of a listen to a

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Speaker 2: new album this morning. The album's called Mayhem. It has

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Speaker 2: been very very very keenly anticipated, so we're going to

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Speaker 2: make sure we save plenty of time before twelve o'clock

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Speaker 2: midday so we can listen to the album and our

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Speaker 2: music reviewer will give us her thoughts.

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Speaker 6: On it as well.

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Speaker 2: Right now it is twenty five minutes to eleven. You

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Speaker 2: were Jack Tame on News Dog ZEDB, digging.

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Speaker 1: Into the issues that affect you the mic Hosking Breakfast.

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Speaker 20: So, no, the airline is not in great shape. It

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Speaker 20: is at best okay. And no, this doesn't look like

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Speaker 20: a job completed in any way, shape or ball. It

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Speaker 20: looked like a fairly dull old the fair, didn't it.

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Speaker 20: A handful of people sitting on cheap chairs in a room,

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Speaker 20: and Phil looked like, jeez, I got a three afternoon

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Speaker 20: I might go along and ask it. They had that

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Speaker 20: vibe about it, didn't. It really didn't need to be

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Speaker 20: the career ending mess that it turned out to be.

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Speaker 20: So no terrifts at all on anything for Mexico. Canada

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Speaker 20: is still in the gun. The agriculture has been moved on.

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Speaker 20: Maybe maybe not, but yesterday we got the cats who

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Speaker 20: the hell.

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Speaker 7: Knows what's going on?

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Speaker 20: Back Monday from six am the mic Hosking Breakfast with

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Speaker 20: the rain drove of the last news talk ZEDB.

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Speaker 2: Even on new Stalk seed B. Jack Tame with you

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Speaker 2: through to midday, and our textbot Paul Stenhouse is here

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Speaker 2: with us this morning. Paul, one of the founders of Google,

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Speaker 2: has a brand new company and this is going to

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Speaker 2: come as a huge shock to everyone listening this morning.

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Speaker 2: It involves AI.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, a surprise, it really does.

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Speaker 5: But this AI.

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Speaker 9: Company is not trying to solve things in your digital life, right,

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Speaker 9: It's not trying to rewrite something or summarize something. Instead,

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Speaker 9: its whole goal is to create physical products and then

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Speaker 9: send them to manufacturing. And they say that the goal

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Speaker 9: is to make the products highly optimize.

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Speaker 2: That's their word for.

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Speaker 21: Efficient creation in the factory.

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Speaker 9: So one would assume that this AI is looking at

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Speaker 9: all of this data that has gone on in factories before,

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Speaker 9: looking at how things are made, and then trying to

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Speaker 9: then if you say, build me a whatever, it's going

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Speaker 9: to then try and do that in the most optimized

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Speaker 9: fashion so that you can get it out the door

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Speaker 9: as assumingly quickly and cheaply as possible.

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Speaker 2: But it's a very small team at the moment.

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Speaker 3: Jack.

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Speaker 6: The website basically.

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Speaker 9: Doesn't say anything, but this is in stealth mode, as

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Speaker 9: they say in the industry, and they're tinkering away at

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Speaker 9: how this can be a thing.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Well, speaking of AI, a couple of big developments

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Speaker 2: from cht GPT. They're looking to launch something called Promax

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Speaker 2: plus What that was mean?

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Speaker 12: That was?

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Speaker 9: That was just me putting That was just me putting

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Speaker 9: the name in there, because they're looking to launch a

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Speaker 9: new AI agent that's like two hundred and forty thousand

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Speaker 9: dollars a year. It's twenty thousand dollars a month, I know.

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Speaker 2: So what do you call it this way?

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01:04:42,533 --> 01:04:45,493
Speaker 9: Is it pro max plus plus max pro I don't know.

1287
01:04:45,533 --> 01:04:50,893
Speaker 2: I mean that is like the the super yeah right, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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01:04:50,933 --> 01:04:54,373
Speaker 9: So that is going to, they say, be so highly

1289
01:04:54,413 --> 01:04:58,693
Speaker 9: specialized that it will basically be good enough to do

1290
01:04:59,093 --> 01:05:03,333
Speaker 9: like PhD research with. Okay, so this is they're talking

1291
01:05:03,373 --> 01:05:06,013
Speaker 9: this is going to be like the top of the line,

1292
01:05:06,733 --> 01:05:08,493
Speaker 9: who knows what it's going to be able to produce?

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01:05:08,693 --> 01:05:09,373
Speaker 19: Crazy thing.

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01:05:09,533 --> 01:05:12,173
Speaker 9: Yeah, but they're also looking to do some agents at

1295
01:05:12,173 --> 01:05:17,093
Speaker 9: a slightly more economical price point too. But this is

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01:05:17,133 --> 01:05:18,973
Speaker 9: the bit that got me Jack. They're doing one that's

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01:05:19,053 --> 01:05:21,533
Speaker 9: two thousand dollars a month, right, and they say that

1298
01:05:21,613 --> 01:05:25,973
Speaker 9: it's looking to replace high income knowledge workers their words.

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01:05:26,773 --> 01:05:31,133
Speaker 9: And then a software developer developer agent for ten thousand

1300
01:05:31,213 --> 01:05:31,813
Speaker 9: dollars a month.

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01:05:32,533 --> 01:05:34,093
Speaker 2: Wow, they're actually so tender.

1302
01:05:34,253 --> 01:05:35,893
Speaker 9: It's one hundred and twenty thousand dollars a year.

1303
01:05:36,813 --> 01:05:38,693
Speaker 2: That is reasonable.

1304
01:05:39,453 --> 01:05:41,773
Speaker 9: I was going to say that's a whole person's salary, right,

1305
01:05:42,173 --> 01:05:44,293
Speaker 9: but then it's still going to need a human to

1306
01:05:44,333 --> 01:05:46,973
Speaker 9: prompt it and help with and integrate and all of

1307
01:05:46,973 --> 01:05:50,493
Speaker 9: those things that it does, so that then becomes quite expensive.

1308
01:05:50,773 --> 01:05:53,133
Speaker 2: Yes, and I'm presuming they don't do like a free

1309
01:05:53,173 --> 01:05:56,253
Speaker 2: trial period, which is what I'll be doing if you can,

1310
01:05:56,293 --> 01:05:58,093
Speaker 2: I sign up to the one that's quarter of a

1311
01:05:58,093 --> 01:05:59,893
Speaker 2: million dollars a year, but just do a free trial

1312
01:05:59,893 --> 01:06:01,893
Speaker 2: month and then on day twenty nine cancel it.

1313
01:06:02,413 --> 01:06:02,613
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1314
01:06:02,693 --> 01:06:03,053
Speaker 2: Maybe not.

1315
01:06:03,413 --> 01:06:05,453
Speaker 9: So these are all apparently still in the works because

1316
01:06:05,453 --> 01:06:07,613
Speaker 9: they're really trying to figure how to monetize all of this.

1317
01:06:07,933 --> 01:06:10,893
Speaker 9: Interesting to note write, the most expensive plane at the moment,

1318
01:06:11,053 --> 01:06:14,373
Speaker 9: which their founder Sam Oltman said he put the price

1319
01:06:14,413 --> 01:06:16,413
Speaker 9: on and he thought it was really expensive and didn't

1320
01:06:16,413 --> 01:06:19,373
Speaker 9: think people would buy it, is two hundred dollars a month.

1321
01:06:19,653 --> 01:06:23,013
Speaker 9: So the fact they're talking about these AI agents being

1322
01:06:23,373 --> 01:06:26,653
Speaker 9: two ten twenty thousand dollars a month.

1323
01:06:27,613 --> 01:06:28,893
Speaker 6: Boy, yeah, pretty extraordinary.

1324
01:06:29,533 --> 01:06:29,773
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1325
01:06:29,973 --> 01:06:32,413
Speaker 2: Okay, well we'll wait and see it. I guess as

1326
01:06:32,413 --> 01:06:34,693
Speaker 2: to what kind of people might be signing up to that,

1327
01:06:34,773 --> 01:06:37,133
Speaker 2: but yeah, fascinating, Thank you, Paul. I suppose it means

1328
01:06:37,133 --> 01:06:40,453
Speaker 2: you get the absolute cutting edge of their technology and

1329
01:06:40,493 --> 01:06:42,653
Speaker 2: their computing power, which is kind of critical when it

1330
01:06:42,653 --> 01:06:45,693
Speaker 2: comes to these AI tools. Now, before eleven o'clock, our

1331
01:06:45,813 --> 01:06:49,733
Speaker 2: man is in the garden with some perennial problem stuff

1332
01:06:49,733 --> 01:06:51,653
Speaker 2: that goes wrong with your runner beans and that kind

1333
01:06:51,653 --> 01:06:53,973
Speaker 2: of thing. So he's going to join us with those

1334
01:06:54,093 --> 01:06:56,333
Speaker 2: very shortly. Next up, your wine pick for this week

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01:06:56,373 --> 01:06:59,133
Speaker 2: from our Master of Wine, Bob Campbell. Right now, it's

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01:06:59,173 --> 01:06:59,973
Speaker 2: eighteen to eleven.

1337
01:07:00,573 --> 01:07:02,253
Speaker 1: A little bit of way to kick off your weekend

1338
01:07:02,373 --> 01:07:05,533
Speaker 1: than with Jack Saturday Mornings with Jack Day and be

1339
01:07:05,693 --> 01:07:09,653
Speaker 1: fewured on for high quality supplements used Talks.

1340
01:07:09,453 --> 01:07:12,733
Speaker 2: eNB sixteen to eleven, Non News Talks EDB For his

1341
01:07:12,813 --> 01:07:15,733
Speaker 2: best buy this week, our Master of Wine, Bob Campbell,

1342
01:07:15,773 --> 01:07:18,573
Speaker 2: has chosen ad Ima Petti twenty twenty two Baron Edmund

1343
01:07:18,573 --> 01:07:22,573
Speaker 2: de Rothschild Plot one oh one Sovignon blanc for forty

1344
01:07:22,613 --> 01:07:24,573
Speaker 2: five dollars. Bob's with us. Now, I killed a pop

1345
01:07:24,693 --> 01:07:26,213
Speaker 2: So why did you go to this?

1346
01:07:28,133 --> 01:07:28,653
Speaker 14: Sorry?

1347
01:07:28,893 --> 01:07:30,133
Speaker 2: Why did you pick the sovignon?

1348
01:07:30,693 --> 01:07:34,613
Speaker 10: Oh it's it's I think It's a Kiwi wine with

1349
01:07:34,653 --> 01:07:37,333
Speaker 10: a French accent, so I think I think it captures

1350
01:07:37,373 --> 01:07:42,173
Speaker 10: the best of both worlds. Remapuri is owned by the

1351
01:07:42,253 --> 01:07:47,973
Speaker 10: prestige French wine group Baron Edmund the Rothschild, and it's

1352
01:07:48,253 --> 01:07:51,053
Speaker 10: they don't miss around when it comes to wine quality.

1353
01:07:51,813 --> 01:07:55,413
Speaker 10: It's made from mole will growing grape, so it is

1354
01:07:55,453 --> 01:07:59,293
Speaker 10: a Kiwi wine. But as I said, with a French touch,

1355
01:08:00,413 --> 01:08:04,053
Speaker 10: Servinon doesn't get much better than this bottle. Age has

1356
01:08:04,133 --> 01:08:07,213
Speaker 10: bellowed the wine and added complex flows. It's got a

1357
01:08:08,093 --> 01:08:10,853
Speaker 10: this is the top one one, which is their limited

1358
01:08:10,973 --> 01:08:19,773
Speaker 10: edition top end Seruvignon. Yeah, it's just I just can't

1359
01:08:19,853 --> 01:08:21,373
Speaker 10: rave up enough about it.

1360
01:08:21,413 --> 01:08:23,333
Speaker 2: Really fantastic. What does it taste like?

1361
01:08:25,053 --> 01:08:29,253
Speaker 10: Well, it's hand picked and aged on the yeast leaves

1362
01:08:29,653 --> 01:08:33,093
Speaker 10: with fifty percent fermented in barrels, and it gives the

1363
01:08:33,093 --> 01:08:36,733
Speaker 10: wine an extra rich texture while still retaining sort of

1364
01:08:36,773 --> 01:08:41,013
Speaker 10: plenty of good old Marlborough serving fruit flavors.

1365
01:08:41,213 --> 01:08:44,093
Speaker 6: Yeah, sorry, no, you go.

1366
01:08:45,213 --> 01:08:48,053
Speaker 10: I was just gonna say it's a seriously complex serving on.

1367
01:08:48,413 --> 01:08:51,573
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, and you reckon. It's pretty good value, not

1368
01:08:51,573 --> 01:08:53,613
Speaker 2: the cheapest wine in the world, but you think because

1369
01:08:53,613 --> 01:08:55,893
Speaker 2: it's so good it represents really good value.

1370
01:08:56,413 --> 01:08:59,693
Speaker 10: Yeah, special occasion stuff. As I said, it's not cheap,

1371
01:08:59,733 --> 01:09:02,133
Speaker 10: but it is good, which in my book makes a

1372
01:09:02,173 --> 01:09:03,133
Speaker 10: good value wine.

1373
01:09:03,613 --> 01:09:05,813
Speaker 2: And can you buy it, Bob Well?

1374
01:09:05,853 --> 01:09:08,373
Speaker 10: I found the glen Garry wines, but you'll have to

1375
01:09:08,373 --> 01:09:12,333
Speaker 10: shop around if or Glengarry've got it for thirty seven

1376
01:09:12,413 --> 01:09:16,173
Speaker 10: ninety nine, which is a good deal, but you'll certainly

1377
01:09:16,173 --> 01:09:18,613
Speaker 10: have to shop around. It's not the sort of wine

1378
01:09:18,613 --> 01:09:20,013
Speaker 10: you'd pick up in a supermarket.

1379
01:09:20,173 --> 01:09:21,933
Speaker 2: No, what would you met you with? Do you think,

1380
01:09:21,933 --> 01:09:23,253
Speaker 2: Bob Well?

1381
01:09:23,293 --> 01:09:28,973
Speaker 10: I had it last night with homemade smoked salmon pizza

1382
01:09:29,173 --> 01:09:33,093
Speaker 10: and it went extremely well. My favorite is actually green

1383
01:09:33,173 --> 01:09:37,413
Speaker 10: lip muscle footers. I think that really hits the spot.

1384
01:09:37,653 --> 01:09:40,493
Speaker 2: Oh fantastic. So seafood really goes well with it. And

1385
01:09:40,573 --> 01:09:41,453
Speaker 2: do you think it'll keep?

1386
01:09:42,973 --> 01:09:45,293
Speaker 10: It's good drinking now, but it should. I think it

1387
01:09:45,293 --> 01:09:47,653
Speaker 10: should get even more interesting over the next two to

1388
01:09:47,733 --> 01:09:52,213
Speaker 10: three years. There's certainly no rush and it does demonstrate

1389
01:09:52,333 --> 01:09:56,613
Speaker 10: how well Savignon can age.

1390
01:09:57,293 --> 01:10:00,133
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, superbo. It sounds great, thanks Bob. So there's

1391
01:10:00,173 --> 01:10:03,653
Speaker 2: Arima Petti twenty twenty two Baron Edmund de Vroth's child

1392
01:10:03,813 --> 01:10:06,893
Speaker 2: Plot one O one Sauvignon Blanc will have the details

1393
01:10:06,973 --> 01:10:09,573
Speaker 2: up on the News Talks. He'd be website, like Bob says,

1394
01:10:09,573 --> 01:10:12,093
Speaker 2: could be a good option for special occasions. Hey, thank

1395
01:10:12,133 --> 01:10:14,053
Speaker 2: you very much for feedback this morning, Jack, you are

1396
01:10:14,093 --> 01:10:15,253
Speaker 2: a gas this morning.

1397
01:10:15,333 --> 01:10:15,573
Speaker 4: Very good.

1398
01:10:15,653 --> 01:10:19,853
Speaker 2: Sailee Lady Gaga's album, first album, I still play, still

1399
01:10:19,893 --> 01:10:22,253
Speaker 2: love It's timeless, so looking forward to her new one.

1400
01:10:22,773 --> 01:10:26,093
Speaker 2: And thank you so much for Dick Frizzelle's chat. So inspiring.

1401
01:10:26,293 --> 01:10:28,613
Speaker 2: I often start to write short stories about my life,

1402
01:10:28,613 --> 01:10:31,333
Speaker 2: but I can never quite get there is Lee. It

1403
01:10:31,453 --> 01:10:33,653
Speaker 2: is just a really nice way of going about a memoir.

1404
01:10:33,733 --> 01:10:35,733
Speaker 2: That's what the thing with Dick, because Dick's actually just

1405
01:10:35,933 --> 01:10:38,653
Speaker 2: he's a great storyteller. And the thing about his book

1406
01:10:38,693 --> 01:10:41,013
Speaker 2: is there're lots of just little vignettes. So there are

1407
01:10:41,013 --> 01:10:44,373
Speaker 2: thirty stories and they're all just little pockets of lovely

1408
01:10:44,413 --> 01:10:48,013
Speaker 2: little stories from his kind of experiences in childhood. So yeah,

1409
01:10:48,053 --> 01:10:49,973
Speaker 2: I can't recommend that enough. And if you missed that interview,

1410
01:10:49,973 --> 01:10:51,893
Speaker 2: it's up on the News Talks. He'd be website now.

1411
01:10:52,253 --> 01:10:54,173
Speaker 2: Right now, it is twelve minutes to eleven. We're in

1412
01:10:54,213 --> 01:10:55,573
Speaker 2: the garden next on Newstalks.

1413
01:10:55,573 --> 01:10:55,933
Speaker 6: He'd be.

1414
01:10:57,693 --> 01:11:01,373
Speaker 1: Gardening with still shaft free autumn upgrades on Still's best sellers.

1415
01:11:01,933 --> 01:11:04,493
Speaker 2: Rude climb Past is our man in the garden. He's

1416
01:11:04,653 --> 01:11:05,773
Speaker 2: with us this morning, killed to.

1417
01:11:05,813 --> 01:11:08,093
Speaker 3: Sir, cureda jack.

1418
01:11:08,213 --> 01:11:10,253
Speaker 8: I am in the garden because there've been a few

1419
01:11:10,333 --> 01:11:16,413
Speaker 8: problems around the gardening. Say, oh, yes, a few problems.

1420
01:11:16,653 --> 01:11:18,653
Speaker 2: Oh, you wouldn't go down well at my place. Rude,

1421
01:11:18,733 --> 01:11:22,333
Speaker 2: you know nothing but success stories in the Tame family garden. Actually,

1422
01:11:22,333 --> 01:11:24,093
Speaker 2: you know what I got to say. Sorry, we'll get

1423
01:11:24,093 --> 01:11:26,453
Speaker 2: into things in a minute, get into your various issues.

1424
01:11:27,693 --> 01:11:31,213
Speaker 2: My capsicums this year, it's the first time I've first

1425
01:11:31,413 --> 01:11:33,893
Speaker 2: summer I've had a crack at growing capsicums, and I

1426
01:11:33,933 --> 01:11:35,693
Speaker 2: don't want to talk it up too much, but I've

1427
01:11:35,773 --> 01:11:38,893
Speaker 2: absolutely crushed it. I don't know what I did, but

1428
01:11:38,933 --> 01:11:41,413
Speaker 2: for some reason, I reckon. I've got maybe fifteen or

1429
01:11:41,453 --> 01:11:43,013
Speaker 2: twenty capsicans on one plant.

1430
01:11:44,093 --> 01:11:44,453
Speaker 5: Not bad.

1431
01:11:45,053 --> 01:11:47,533
Speaker 2: It's not a bit of squat. They're a bit sort

1432
01:11:47,533 --> 01:11:49,213
Speaker 2: of they're a bit sort of short and fat as

1433
01:11:49,253 --> 01:11:51,653
Speaker 2: opposed to they don't get their kind of long, you know,

1434
01:11:51,733 --> 01:11:53,493
Speaker 2: sometimes you get them. They're quite nice and long. But

1435
01:11:53,533 --> 01:11:56,093
Speaker 2: they're beautiful, red and sweet, gorgeous.

1436
01:11:56,493 --> 01:11:57,013
Speaker 5: That's right.

1437
01:11:57,053 --> 01:12:00,133
Speaker 8: So you sometimes have green ones that become red as well, or.

1438
01:12:00,173 --> 01:12:04,893
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah exactly, you keep them going.

1439
01:12:05,213 --> 01:12:08,293
Speaker 8: No, this is wonderful here because, to be quite honest,

1440
01:12:08,653 --> 01:12:11,893
Speaker 8: it is really nice to have fresh capsicums. Whether you

1441
01:12:12,013 --> 01:12:14,773
Speaker 8: fry them or whether you have them, you know, smashed

1442
01:12:14,853 --> 01:12:19,533
Speaker 8: up into and sell it, that'll be wonderful. And the

1443
01:12:19,573 --> 01:12:22,693
Speaker 8: irony is that basically all you need is a little

1444
01:12:22,733 --> 01:12:25,893
Speaker 8: bit of general fertilizer to do it. You don't need

1445
01:12:25,973 --> 01:12:27,933
Speaker 8: any major troubles there you go.

1446
01:12:28,133 --> 01:12:30,973
Speaker 2: Yeah, well it's real that I'm reporting on a success

1447
01:12:30,973 --> 01:12:32,813
Speaker 2: from our garden. So I'm pleased that I can do that.

1448
01:12:33,093 --> 01:12:35,493
Speaker 2: When you get into your perennial troubles.

1449
01:12:35,813 --> 01:12:38,173
Speaker 8: Oh yeah, well let's do that. But I reckon money.

1450
01:12:38,213 --> 01:12:40,693
Speaker 8: When he grows a little bit older, will probably love those.

1451
01:12:43,573 --> 01:12:46,173
Speaker 2: There is something about growing something that's a really vibrant

1452
01:12:46,253 --> 01:12:48,293
Speaker 2: red that's quite exciting.

1453
01:12:48,333 --> 01:12:48,573
Speaker 5: You know.

1454
01:12:48,773 --> 01:12:50,973
Speaker 2: It's just it's just just looks good, you know.

1455
01:12:51,253 --> 01:12:51,973
Speaker 6: Anyway, Yes, it.

1456
01:12:51,973 --> 01:12:55,533
Speaker 8: Is certainly now perennial troubles. This was an interesting thing

1457
01:12:55,573 --> 01:12:58,933
Speaker 8: because over the last few weeks Pete Wolfkemp and I

1458
01:12:58,933 --> 01:13:02,253
Speaker 8: have been talking about Skylett runner beans that caused quite

1459
01:13:02,253 --> 01:13:05,093
Speaker 8: a bit of problem in New Zealand And and once,

1460
01:13:05,213 --> 01:13:08,093
Speaker 8: you know, once somebody starts, everybody calls up talk back,

1461
01:13:08,173 --> 01:13:10,493
Speaker 8: and it's like that a little bit. So that's how

1462
01:13:10,533 --> 01:13:14,213
Speaker 8: that went. So this is the story. Actually, I started

1463
01:13:14,253 --> 01:13:17,453
Speaker 8: working on scarlet runner beans and I ended up talking

1464
01:13:17,493 --> 01:13:19,573
Speaker 8: to a friend of mine, a really good DSA I

1465
01:13:19,653 --> 01:13:23,213
Speaker 8: made from way back, and we ended up talking about dahlias,

1466
01:13:23,493 --> 01:13:26,973
Speaker 8: and for some silly reason, the problems at the scarlet

1467
01:13:27,053 --> 01:13:29,613
Speaker 8: runners may well be related to the same sort of

1468
01:13:29,613 --> 01:13:33,293
Speaker 8: troubles on dahlias. And this is what what I thought

1469
01:13:33,293 --> 01:13:36,173
Speaker 8: I'd better have a check about. First of all, what

1470
01:13:36,773 --> 01:13:39,493
Speaker 8: we heard with the scarlet runners is very simple. There

1471
01:13:39,493 --> 01:13:43,733
Speaker 8: were suddenly no more bean pots growing at certain stage

1472
01:13:43,773 --> 01:13:47,373
Speaker 8: of their development, despite they kept their normal light and

1473
01:13:47,413 --> 01:13:49,573
Speaker 8: the normal height and the normal food and all that

1474
01:13:49,613 --> 01:13:53,293
Speaker 8: sort of stuff, and they basically started turning yellow. The

1475
01:13:53,373 --> 01:13:56,933
Speaker 8: leaves were going down and down was awful. So that

1476
01:13:57,293 --> 01:14:00,053
Speaker 8: that was the problem. And we thought, and I thought,

1477
01:14:00,453 --> 01:14:03,053
Speaker 8: you enough to go yellow and they go fungaled. I

1478
01:14:03,093 --> 01:14:05,653
Speaker 8: haven't heard about a new variety of fungus in New

1479
01:14:05,733 --> 01:14:08,533
Speaker 8: Zealand that this could be, so, you know, I had

1480
01:14:08,533 --> 01:14:13,093
Speaker 8: no idea. So we started talking about scarlett runners full stop.

1481
01:14:13,133 --> 01:14:16,373
Speaker 8: They come from Central America, right they like. Also, this

1482
01:14:16,413 --> 01:14:18,213
Speaker 8: is for people who actually want to ever look at this.

1483
01:14:18,653 --> 01:14:21,813
Speaker 8: They like well drained soil, loam in a sunny spot.

1484
01:14:21,933 --> 01:14:23,693
Speaker 8: I reckon. You can grow them really well where you

1485
01:14:23,733 --> 01:14:27,613
Speaker 8: are Okay, you plant the seeds under a really tall

1486
01:14:27,653 --> 01:14:29,893
Speaker 8: support so they can climb up. They go up and

1487
01:14:29,933 --> 01:14:33,053
Speaker 8: up and up, and then the root systems when they're

1488
01:14:33,053 --> 01:14:35,613
Speaker 8: finally finished at the end of the season. The root

1489
01:14:35,693 --> 01:14:39,973
Speaker 8: systems will actually survive the next winter for the next crop.

1490
01:14:40,373 --> 01:14:47,013
Speaker 8: So they are literally, technically speaking, perennials, right. They don't

1491
01:14:47,213 --> 01:14:50,853
Speaker 8: need a lot of nitrogen because they are actually nitrogen fixers.

1492
01:14:50,893 --> 01:14:54,213
Speaker 8: They've got these little creatures on their root zone that

1493
01:14:54,333 --> 01:14:57,013
Speaker 8: can actually take nitrogen out of the air and turn

1494
01:14:57,053 --> 01:14:59,533
Speaker 8: it into fertilizers, which I think is quite a clever

1495
01:14:59,613 --> 01:15:03,453
Speaker 8: trick of plants to do their long seasons. Growers. They're

1496
01:15:03,493 --> 01:15:06,933
Speaker 8: regular waterers, but not do wet please, and that's stuff.

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Speaker 8: And you harvest the mature pods regularly. If you don't

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Speaker 8: do that, you could get into trouble. So what could

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Speaker 8: cause this trouble with beans? Lack of pollination, not enough pollinators,

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01:15:19,373 --> 01:15:24,453
Speaker 8: hot weather, you know, lack of water. Bees sometimes chew

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01:15:24,613 --> 01:15:28,293
Speaker 8: the back of the flowers and developing fruit to get

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Speaker 8: at the at the nectar. And that's not good either.

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Speaker 8: So I decided to call Keith Hammett. He's an old

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01:15:33,813 --> 01:15:36,173
Speaker 8: maid of mine and he is also well known for

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01:15:36,173 --> 01:15:38,853
Speaker 8: his sweet peas and his New Zealand Daily Thing, and

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Speaker 8: he came up with a really cool story, namely that

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Speaker 8: the yellowing and the ill thrift of the skylet runner

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01:15:47,333 --> 01:15:49,213
Speaker 8: could well have something to do what he saw in

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Speaker 8: the UK where he came from. See in the UK,

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01:15:53,213 --> 01:15:58,933
Speaker 8: these climbing beans are grown as annuals, not as perennials, right,

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01:15:59,453 --> 01:16:02,093
Speaker 8: so you actually get rid of them after a year.

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01:16:02,573 --> 01:16:05,613
Speaker 8: And the reason is very simple because and it's the

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01:16:05,653 --> 01:16:08,933
Speaker 8: same with dahlia. Actually it's very simple. You in the

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01:16:08,973 --> 01:16:11,453
Speaker 8: warm climate you can keep the tubers in the soil,

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01:16:12,093 --> 01:16:15,053
Speaker 8: you know, but not in England, so you really have

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01:16:15,093 --> 01:16:17,613
Speaker 8: to get rid of them otherwise those roots are starting

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01:16:17,613 --> 01:16:20,253
Speaker 8: to go down the gurglar. And if you compare that

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01:16:20,333 --> 01:16:23,093
Speaker 8: what he knows about daily as, it's quite interesting because

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Speaker 8: when you leave dailier tubers in the soil for several

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01:16:27,573 --> 01:16:32,293
Speaker 8: growing seasons, the performance falls away. It goes down the

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01:16:32,333 --> 01:16:37,213
Speaker 8: gurglers slowly, and it's literally that is what causing the troubles.

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01:16:37,533 --> 01:16:42,173
Speaker 8: So maybe there is this little connection between the same

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01:16:42,333 --> 01:16:46,093
Speaker 8: thing with dahlias that are overwintering and the scarlet runners

1524
01:16:46,093 --> 01:16:48,853
Speaker 8: that overwinter as well. If you keep them too long,

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01:16:49,253 --> 01:16:54,173
Speaker 8: they go down the gurglar. So he says he's got

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01:16:54,893 --> 01:16:57,653
Speaker 8: you've got them. So what he says is, look, I've

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01:16:57,653 --> 01:17:00,373
Speaker 8: got three tripods of scarlet runners. One of them is

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01:17:00,413 --> 01:17:03,213
Speaker 8: doing exactly what all your callers are saying. And he

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01:17:04,493 --> 01:17:09,613
Speaker 8: attributes it to stress and to all the tubers if

1530
01:17:09,653 --> 01:17:13,453
Speaker 8: you like giving up the ghost literally saying that's it.

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01:17:13,653 --> 01:17:17,653
Speaker 8: I've had enough, I've done so, yeah, all right, exactly.

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01:17:17,773 --> 01:17:19,973
Speaker 8: Our idea is to get new things at new seats

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01:17:19,973 --> 01:17:22,053
Speaker 8: in spring to save you that vessel.

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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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01:17:22,733 --> 01:17:25,973
Speaker 2: Hey, thanks RhoD, that's great, really appreciate that. Very good sir.

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01:17:26,213 --> 01:17:28,493
Speaker 2: You have a wonderful weekend and we will catch you

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01:17:28,493 --> 01:17:31,533
Speaker 2: again soon. Route climb past our man in the garden.

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01:17:31,733 --> 01:17:33,813
Speaker 2: We're stacking with the veg theme right after the eleven

1539
01:17:33,853 --> 01:17:36,733
Speaker 2: o'clock news. We're going to look at the difference and

1540
01:17:36,813 --> 01:17:40,333
Speaker 2: cost and quality between the fruit and vegi boxes you

1541
01:17:40,333 --> 01:17:43,413
Speaker 2: can get as a subscription service versus the fruit and

1542
01:17:43,493 --> 01:17:46,533
Speaker 2: vegis you get at the supermarket. Not so that I'm

1543
01:17:46,533 --> 01:17:49,493
Speaker 2: producing quite enough caps comes yet to be offering a

1544
01:17:49,493 --> 01:17:52,293
Speaker 2: subscription service. They're good, though, trust me, they're good. I'm

1545
01:17:52,293 --> 01:17:54,093
Speaker 2: not put a photo up on my Facebook page actually

1546
01:17:54,093 --> 01:17:55,773
Speaker 2: so you can have a look be impressed at what

1547
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Speaker 2: we're growing at the same household. One time News is

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Speaker 2: Next is almost eleven you with news Dogs.

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Speaker 12: He'd be.

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Speaker 1: Saturday Mornings with Jack Day keeping the conversation going through

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Speaker 1: the weekend with Bpure dot Cot inst for high quality

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Speaker 1: Supplements Used Talks NB, Thank and Jaila.

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Speaker 2: Good morning and welcome to news Talks EDB Jack Tame

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01:18:39,213 --> 01:18:41,373
Speaker 2: with you through the midday today. You know, I had

1555
01:18:41,373 --> 01:18:44,813
Speaker 2: this crazy experience a couple of years ago. Longtime listeners

1556
01:18:44,813 --> 01:18:48,173
Speaker 2: of the show will know that when we began Saturday

1557
01:18:48,213 --> 01:18:51,933
Speaker 2: Mornings together, we broadcast from New York. So I think

1558
01:18:51,933 --> 01:18:54,173
Speaker 2: for the first four years of doing the show, we

1559
01:18:54,253 --> 01:18:56,853
Speaker 2: broadcast every week from New York, and we had this

1560
01:18:57,053 --> 01:19:01,333
Speaker 2: amazing kind of experience because the studios from which we

1561
01:19:01,373 --> 01:19:07,013
Speaker 2: would broadcast were in Tribeca, the part of Manhattan the

1562
01:19:07,053 --> 01:19:12,013
Speaker 2: triangle below Canal Street, Try Bear Car, and it was

1563
01:19:13,813 --> 01:19:15,933
Speaker 2: in a studio that was shared by some of the

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Speaker 2: big top forty radio stations and wrap stations and hip

1565
01:19:19,213 --> 01:19:22,373
Speaker 2: hop stations in New York at the time, and of course,

1566
01:19:22,453 --> 01:19:25,373
Speaker 2: when you have an audience the size of the audience

1567
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Speaker 2: in New York and you are an American station, you

1568
01:19:28,573 --> 01:19:32,253
Speaker 2: can command some pretty impressive guests from time to time.

1569
01:19:32,333 --> 01:19:34,773
Speaker 2: So I had this remarkable experience one day, coming in

1570
01:19:35,253 --> 01:19:38,213
Speaker 2: and talking on what was a Friday evening, New York time,

1571
01:19:38,333 --> 01:19:40,773
Speaker 2: Saturday morning on News talks 'B, coming in to do

1572
01:19:40,853 --> 01:19:43,853
Speaker 2: the show as I did every week, and in the studio,

1573
01:19:44,093 --> 01:19:47,733
Speaker 2: directly next to me, like literally meeters away, Lady Gargar

1574
01:19:47,933 --> 01:19:53,053
Speaker 2: was being interviewed by the Top forty radio station. Unfortunately,

1575
01:19:53,133 --> 01:19:55,133
Speaker 2: she had a few too many security guards with her,

1576
01:19:55,293 --> 01:19:58,333
Speaker 2: so I couldn't just pop over and say, excuse me,

1577
01:19:58,493 --> 01:20:00,813
Speaker 2: excuse me. I was hoping that you might come through

1578
01:20:00,853 --> 01:20:03,253
Speaker 2: and speak to News Talk Z'B in New Zealand as well.

1579
01:20:03,613 --> 01:20:06,333
Speaker 2: But yeah, it was one of these kind of remarkable things. Anyway,

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Speaker 2: Since then, Gaga has had an interesting career. She's had

1581
01:20:11,653 --> 01:20:14,973
Speaker 2: a couple of big film roles, She's released a couple

1582
01:20:15,013 --> 01:20:18,693
Speaker 2: of very interesting albums. But this year she is releasing

1583
01:20:18,693 --> 01:20:21,693
Speaker 2: a brand new album called Mayhem that kind of goes

1584
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Speaker 2: back to her roots. Goes back to the Gaga music

1585
01:20:25,133 --> 01:20:28,653
Speaker 2: of two thousand and eight, the really poppy, club kind

1586
01:20:28,693 --> 01:20:33,133
Speaker 2: of upbeat music of her debut album. And so we're

1587
01:20:33,133 --> 01:20:34,893
Speaker 2: gonna have a listen to former day. We'll get our

1588
01:20:34,973 --> 01:20:37,613
Speaker 2: music views thoughts on it as well and see just

1589
01:20:37,653 --> 01:20:42,133
Speaker 2: how well Gaga has done in reclaiming her original sound.

1590
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Speaker 2: Right now, it's nine minutes past eleven. Team and sustainability

1591
01:20:47,053 --> 01:20:50,853
Speaker 2: expert Kate Hall aka Ethically Kate is with us this morning.

1592
01:20:50,933 --> 01:20:53,093
Speaker 2: More than a good morning.

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01:20:53,213 --> 01:20:54,613
Speaker 22: Good morning from down south.

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01:20:54,773 --> 01:20:56,413
Speaker 2: Oh where are you? Down south?

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01:20:57,773 --> 01:21:04,573
Speaker 22: I am in Oatmatata. Oh yeah, I'm on a high

1596
01:21:04,733 --> 01:21:08,853
Speaker 22: country farm. Yeah, just right in the middle of There's

1597
01:21:08,893 --> 01:21:11,773
Speaker 22: not much green here, dusty, kind of barren land, but

1598
01:21:12,293 --> 01:21:13,453
Speaker 22: it's so stunning.

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Speaker 2: I mean it's it's like down by been more kind

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Speaker 2: of area, isn't it. Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh that's

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01:21:19,653 --> 01:21:23,293
Speaker 2: a beautiful. Yeah yeah, kind of all madamers, just up

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01:21:23,333 --> 01:21:26,373
Speaker 2: the road kind of central Otago.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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01:21:26,773 --> 01:21:29,333
Speaker 2: So if you were kind of if you were driving

1605
01:21:29,373 --> 01:21:34,213
Speaker 2: from from like Wanica through to Waimati or wama Do

1606
01:21:34,653 --> 01:21:37,293
Speaker 2: on the on the on the east coast of the

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01:21:37,333 --> 01:21:39,173
Speaker 2: South Island kind of North Otago, that's where you are

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01:21:39,253 --> 01:21:44,533
Speaker 2: right that'sh it's beautiful. That is an absolutely stunning parlor

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01:21:44,533 --> 01:21:47,133
Speaker 2: the country. Yeah, to the north. I was going to say, yeah,

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01:21:47,133 --> 01:21:49,453
Speaker 2: it's kind of way tak Yeah, I think yeah, which

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01:21:49,493 --> 01:21:52,613
Speaker 2: is beautiful, beautiful part of the country. Anyway, Hey, this

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01:21:52,733 --> 01:21:55,533
Speaker 2: move this morning, Kate. We're talking veggie boxes, and I

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01:21:55,573 --> 01:21:58,013
Speaker 2: think lots of us have experimented with different ways of

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01:21:58,013 --> 01:22:01,293
Speaker 2: getting produced and fruit and veggies and and groceries over

1615
01:22:01,573 --> 01:22:04,293
Speaker 2: the last few years. You know, you've got various grocery

1616
01:22:04,373 --> 01:22:09,213
Speaker 2: and food subscription services, but you have been subscribing to

1617
01:22:09,413 --> 01:22:12,893
Speaker 2: like a locally grown fruit and vegetable box and comparing

1618
01:22:12,933 --> 01:22:15,293
Speaker 2: that with the offerings at your supermarket. And it turns

1619
01:22:15,333 --> 01:22:19,893
Speaker 2: out that actually getting your produce from a local veggie

1620
01:22:19,933 --> 01:22:23,373
Speaker 2: box company isn't any more expensive than going to the supermarket.

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01:22:24,533 --> 01:22:24,773
Speaker 12: Yeah.

1622
01:22:24,813 --> 01:22:29,333
Speaker 22: Well often, actually it's cheaper. And I think people they

1623
01:22:29,333 --> 01:22:31,893
Speaker 22: have this perception that going to the farmer's market or

1624
01:22:32,293 --> 01:22:36,933
Speaker 22: you're getting that locally produced organic box delivered to their

1625
01:22:36,973 --> 01:22:39,373
Speaker 22: door is going to be so much more expensive and

1626
01:22:39,373 --> 01:22:41,693
Speaker 22: we're all trying to stay over at the moment in particular,

1627
01:22:42,493 --> 01:22:45,453
Speaker 22: but it's actually cheaper. I did a comparison of an

1628
01:22:45,533 --> 01:22:49,053
Speaker 22: organic fruit and veggie box compared with you know, if

1629
01:22:49,053 --> 01:22:52,533
Speaker 22: I bought every kind of item at a local countdown

1630
01:22:52,973 --> 01:22:57,533
Speaker 22: and it was twenty two dollars and thirteen cents cheaper

1631
01:22:58,813 --> 01:23:01,773
Speaker 22: to get the box and that was a delivery considering

1632
01:23:01,933 --> 01:23:04,813
Speaker 22: as well. So I think we need to really just

1633
01:23:04,893 --> 01:23:08,493
Speaker 22: bust that meth of Ohm's markets are so expensive and

1634
01:23:08,773 --> 01:23:13,133
Speaker 22: you know, organic and more boutique stores, they're just so

1635
01:23:13,213 --> 01:23:16,173
Speaker 22: much more expensive. I'm just going to enter the supermarket

1636
01:23:16,213 --> 01:23:18,813
Speaker 22: and get it all there because it's we're going to

1637
01:23:18,893 --> 01:23:22,533
Speaker 22: save money and we're supporting you know, local farmers and

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01:23:22,653 --> 01:23:28,173
Speaker 22: local smaller organizations who, yeah, observe our money much more usually.

1639
01:23:28,413 --> 01:23:31,813
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I mean certainly supporting local makes a lot

1640
01:23:31,813 --> 01:23:33,693
Speaker 2: of sense. And the good thing with the with like

1641
01:23:33,693 --> 01:23:36,173
Speaker 2: getting a fruit and veggie box is that you can

1642
01:23:36,213 --> 01:23:38,373
Speaker 2: be pretty confident that the stuff you're getting is in

1643
01:23:38,493 --> 01:23:43,053
Speaker 2: season right, like hasn't been flown in from some you know,

1644
01:23:43,213 --> 01:23:45,773
Speaker 2: tropical corner of the world. You can be pretty confident

1645
01:23:45,813 --> 01:23:48,133
Speaker 2: that actually this is in season. It means going to

1646
01:23:48,213 --> 01:23:51,013
Speaker 2: be really healthy and often cheaper as well. So what

1647
01:23:51,093 --> 01:23:55,333
Speaker 2: kind of what kind of subscription services would you recommend

1648
01:23:55,333 --> 01:23:57,773
Speaker 2: from your research? What might be some good options?

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01:23:58,693 --> 01:24:01,933
Speaker 22: So one of my personal favorites is misfit Garden, and

1650
01:24:02,173 --> 01:24:05,613
Speaker 22: that's because it is. I mean, it's not just a

1651
01:24:05,653 --> 01:24:09,373
Speaker 22: great bang for your back, but it's also they work

1652
01:24:09,453 --> 01:24:12,293
Speaker 22: directly with the farmers. So they asked the farmers and

1653
01:24:12,333 --> 01:24:16,733
Speaker 22: communicate around just so you said, seasonal fruit. But sometimes

1654
01:24:16,733 --> 01:24:20,053
Speaker 22: some of their veges you are too big or too

1655
01:24:20,093 --> 01:24:24,973
Speaker 22: small or like slightly just slightly not up to standards

1656
01:24:25,013 --> 01:24:27,693
Speaker 22: for what we expect in the supermarket, which I think

1657
01:24:27,773 --> 01:24:29,333
Speaker 22: is ridiculous.

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01:24:28,773 --> 01:24:29,533
Speaker 5: But here we are.

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01:24:30,893 --> 01:24:33,853
Speaker 22: So they work directly with the farmers and put together

1660
01:24:33,893 --> 01:24:37,653
Speaker 22: a box. So it's pretty exciting. I personally like the

1661
01:24:37,853 --> 01:24:41,693
Speaker 22: excitement of what arrives in it. With any box, you

1662
01:24:41,773 --> 01:24:45,533
Speaker 22: often yeah, just don't know what's gonna what's gonna happen.

1663
01:24:45,613 --> 01:24:48,453
Speaker 22: So that is a brilliant one, really really good. I've

1664
01:24:48,453 --> 01:24:52,493
Speaker 22: always had good experience with it turning up and it's

1665
01:24:52,573 --> 01:24:55,493
Speaker 22: called misfit, but honestly, sometimes I'm like, why is this

1666
01:24:55,533 --> 01:24:59,893
Speaker 22: stuff being rejected? It's crazy. We've got wonky box. Most

1667
01:24:59,933 --> 01:25:04,493
Speaker 22: people know about places like Oxford Fresh perfectly imperfect. Again,

1668
01:25:04,613 --> 01:25:09,173
Speaker 22: it's working with produce that is slightly imperfect but one

1669
01:25:09,253 --> 01:25:13,613
Speaker 22: hundred percent edible and you know, as often actually looks

1670
01:25:13,613 --> 01:25:15,173
Speaker 22: and tastes even more nutritious.

1671
01:25:15,373 --> 01:25:17,693
Speaker 2: Yeah, so how do you how do you decide what

1672
01:25:17,813 --> 01:25:19,933
Speaker 2: to cook because you don't know what's coming right?

1673
01:25:20,853 --> 01:25:24,133
Speaker 22: No, well, I've actually never been a recipe or meal planner.

1674
01:25:24,653 --> 01:25:27,853
Speaker 22: And yeah, I know a lot of people use recipes

1675
01:25:27,853 --> 01:25:31,133
Speaker 22: and meal planning, you know, to reduce their food waste.

1676
01:25:31,173 --> 01:25:34,013
Speaker 22: But for me, I find, you know, when I get

1677
01:25:34,053 --> 01:25:37,333
Speaker 22: that box. Firstly, it's taken away any decision fatigue. I

1678
01:25:37,373 --> 01:25:39,453
Speaker 22: don't have to stand in the supermarket going.

1679
01:25:39,693 --> 01:25:41,853
Speaker 17: Should I buy five apples or two?

1680
01:25:41,973 --> 01:25:43,613
Speaker 3: You know, it's like it's just there.

1681
01:25:43,773 --> 01:25:47,573
Speaker 22: You get what you're given. And it forces me to

1682
01:25:47,693 --> 01:25:51,733
Speaker 22: experiment with different foods, you know that, like col rabie

1683
01:25:51,853 --> 01:25:56,453
Speaker 22: or I personally don't love beetroot, but when beat troots

1684
01:25:56,733 --> 01:25:59,333
Speaker 22: is in season and it's in the box, I get,

1685
01:25:59,493 --> 01:26:02,733
Speaker 22: you know, experimental, and I've done things like made beetroot

1686
01:26:02,813 --> 01:26:05,733
Speaker 22: brownie and you know, it kind of forces you out

1687
01:26:05,733 --> 01:26:06,253
Speaker 22: of your company.

1688
01:26:06,453 --> 01:26:08,733
Speaker 2: I'm just going to roast it thea to balsamic bego.

1689
01:26:09,933 --> 01:26:10,933
Speaker 22: Yep, that sounds good.

1690
01:26:11,013 --> 01:26:11,733
Speaker 12: This sounds good too.

1691
01:26:12,533 --> 01:26:19,453
Speaker 22: Chocolate brownie though, yeah. Yeah, so that's that's how I do.

1692
01:26:19,653 --> 01:26:22,693
Speaker 22: I know some people, you know, struggle with not knowing

1693
01:26:22,733 --> 01:26:25,173
Speaker 22: exactly what's going to turn out. But you can put

1694
01:26:25,213 --> 01:26:28,173
Speaker 22: a little notes and this is for you know, most

1695
01:26:28,893 --> 01:26:32,253
Speaker 22: of the Vigi box subscriptions nationwide. You can put a

1696
01:26:32,253 --> 01:26:34,893
Speaker 22: note and say, you know, I'm allergic to a mandarins,

1697
01:26:35,013 --> 01:26:37,413
Speaker 22: or you know, please don't put in letters because we've

1698
01:26:37,413 --> 01:26:39,573
Speaker 22: got heaps of it in the garden. Things like that.

1699
01:26:39,653 --> 01:26:44,213
Speaker 22: So you can't obviously fully curate the box, but you

1700
01:26:44,253 --> 01:26:46,733
Speaker 22: can just add a few notes and they're usually happy

1701
01:26:46,773 --> 01:26:47,293
Speaker 22: to oblige.

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01:26:47,413 --> 01:26:47,613
Speaker 5: Yeah.

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01:26:47,653 --> 01:26:48,893
Speaker 2: Yeah, that makes a lot of things. I was going

1704
01:26:48,973 --> 01:26:50,933
Speaker 2: to say. The other option is this is what AI

1705
01:26:51,093 --> 01:26:53,653
Speaker 2: is good at if it gives you a chance. No,

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Speaker 2: it really is, though. This is one of those good

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Speaker 2: things where you can just be like, okay, I've got

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Speaker 2: three beat roots, seven turnips and amandain what can you make?

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Speaker 2: And it'll go it, you know exactly. Yeah, yeah, there

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Speaker 2: you go. There you good. Okay, I know you've You've

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Speaker 2: got a great little collection of some of the companies

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Speaker 2: course everyone can find you by searching the social media

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Speaker 2: platforms ethically Kate as well. Thank you so much, Kate.

1715
01:27:21,813 --> 01:27:24,853
Speaker 2: Enjoy being in the beautiful South Island and we will

1716
01:27:24,893 --> 01:27:27,813
Speaker 2: catch you again very soon. Right now it is sixteen

1717
01:27:27,853 --> 01:27:30,813
Speaker 2: past eleven. We're traveling a little further north, taking you

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01:27:30,853 --> 01:27:34,373
Speaker 2: through the Ruapehu district. With tips for traveling there in autumn.

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01:27:34,373 --> 01:27:38,173
Speaker 3: Next travel with winni Wo Tours. Where the world is

1720
01:27:38,213 --> 01:27:38,813
Speaker 3: yours for.

1721
01:27:39,013 --> 01:27:43,733
Speaker 2: Now and travel corresponded. Mike Yardley is here today, Keilder, Mike.

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01:27:45,053 --> 01:27:46,773
Speaker 19: Golder, Jack, what do you reckon? We're going to knock

1723
01:27:46,813 --> 01:27:47,973
Speaker 19: over India tomorrow night.

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01:27:52,613 --> 01:27:55,853
Speaker 2: Ah, yes, no, but I am anxious about not having

1725
01:27:55,893 --> 01:27:58,653
Speaker 2: met Henry. I'm really anxious about it, Henry. If we

1726
01:27:58,693 --> 01:28:02,413
Speaker 2: have no Mett Henry, I think it's a very tricky. Indeed, God,

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01:28:02,453 --> 01:28:03,813
Speaker 2: I would love to see it though. It's just all

1728
01:28:03,853 --> 01:28:05,973
Speaker 2: on you know, it's all in the indians favor at

1729
01:28:05,973 --> 01:28:09,733
Speaker 2: the moment, isn't it being? You know, it does feel

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01:28:09,773 --> 01:28:11,653
Speaker 2: it does feel a bit ragged. And you know, when

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01:28:11,653 --> 01:28:14,333
Speaker 2: you have a population of coming on two billion versus

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01:28:14,373 --> 01:28:16,613
Speaker 2: a population of just over five million, it's like, wow,

1733
01:28:16,653 --> 01:28:20,653
Speaker 2: come on. But yeah, no, I'll be I'll be gladly

1734
01:28:20,733 --> 01:28:22,933
Speaker 2: volunteering for the night shift tomorrow night at our place

1735
01:28:23,013 --> 01:28:25,533
Speaker 2: so I can see that. Can't wait for them. Yeah,

1736
01:28:25,573 --> 01:28:28,933
Speaker 2: very exit o'clock. I think is first ball name for

1737
01:28:29,053 --> 01:28:32,853
Speaker 2: the ICC Champions Trophy Final. Anyway, we're focusing this morning

1738
01:28:32,853 --> 01:28:35,533
Speaker 2: on a few autumn frolics in the Uapehu district, and

1739
01:28:35,573 --> 01:28:39,813
Speaker 2: the region kind of has outdoorsy adventures for all seasons.

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01:28:39,333 --> 01:28:39,493
Speaker 4: A.

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01:28:41,093 --> 01:28:44,093
Speaker 19: No doubt about it, Jack, And before the ski bunnies

1742
01:28:44,173 --> 01:28:47,453
Speaker 19: rock into town, I think autumn is a fantastic time

1743
01:28:47,493 --> 01:28:50,453
Speaker 19: to explore the National Park because the some crowds have

1744
01:28:50,693 --> 01:28:54,693
Speaker 19: thinned out yet the weather's still really agreeable. So if

1745
01:28:54,733 --> 01:28:57,093
Speaker 19: you want to take a really good romp up mount

1746
01:28:57,373 --> 01:29:00,973
Speaker 19: a pair who jump on that skywhaker from Fucker Papa

1747
01:29:01,053 --> 01:29:04,533
Speaker 19: Village and check out the mountain trails because there are

1748
01:29:04,613 --> 01:29:08,613
Speaker 19: about ten kilometers of designated trailers around the higher reaches

1749
01:29:08,653 --> 01:29:11,133
Speaker 19: of the mountain, and at this time of year it

1750
01:29:11,213 --> 01:29:15,173
Speaker 19: is such a great chance to admire the dramatic terrain

1751
01:29:15,413 --> 01:29:20,133
Speaker 19: that mash up of volcanic rock and Parmesan scoria before

1752
01:29:20,133 --> 01:29:22,373
Speaker 19: the winter snowcoat arrives. So you do it over the

1753
01:29:22,413 --> 01:29:23,333
Speaker 19: next couple of months.

1754
01:29:23,653 --> 01:29:26,093
Speaker 2: What altitude does the skywalker climb to?

1755
01:29:27,653 --> 01:29:33,213
Speaker 19: Two thy twenty meters, so it's a true alpine gondola.

1756
01:29:33,413 --> 01:29:38,133
Speaker 19: I've often admired the Swiss and their engineering audacity, you

1757
01:29:38,173 --> 01:29:41,973
Speaker 19: know with the various cable cars systems, but this really

1758
01:29:42,173 --> 01:29:47,093
Speaker 19: is sort of projecting that same sense of sheer can

1759
01:29:47,173 --> 01:29:50,533
Speaker 19: do gall and it's actually a whopping ride. It takes

1760
01:29:51,573 --> 01:29:53,933
Speaker 19: a distance of about two kilometers to get from the

1761
01:29:53,933 --> 01:29:58,893
Speaker 19: base station up to Knowlridge chalet at the top, so

1762
01:29:59,133 --> 01:30:03,653
Speaker 19: it's a massive gondola system and if you do take

1763
01:30:03,693 --> 01:30:06,013
Speaker 19: a ride before the end of April, this is the

1764
01:30:06,093 --> 01:30:10,173
Speaker 19: cherry on top jack at nol Ridelle. They are serving

1765
01:30:10,333 --> 01:30:13,893
Speaker 19: New Zealand's highest high tea. So what could be better

1766
01:30:13,973 --> 01:30:17,773
Speaker 19: than just scoffing on a teared stand of tasty morsels

1767
01:30:18,173 --> 01:30:21,293
Speaker 19: as you overlook the pinnacles up top of the mountain.

1768
01:30:21,533 --> 01:30:24,893
Speaker 2: At two thousand meters as well. So that's yeah, that's impressive.

1769
01:30:25,413 --> 01:30:26,933
Speaker 2: If you go a bit live then further blow in

1770
01:30:26,933 --> 01:30:29,453
Speaker 2: the National Park, what short walks would you recommend?

1771
01:30:31,013 --> 01:30:33,093
Speaker 19: Yeah, when I was there a couple of weeks ago,

1772
01:30:33,573 --> 01:30:36,093
Speaker 19: there were a lot of hikers actually just checking out

1773
01:30:36,093 --> 01:30:38,053
Speaker 19: all the different walks, but I reckon the pick of

1774
01:30:38,053 --> 01:30:41,533
Speaker 19: the bunch is the Tarfai Falls Walk because it's very

1775
01:30:41,533 --> 01:30:45,333
Speaker 19: family friendly and you get such a great little slice

1776
01:30:45,373 --> 01:30:49,693
Speaker 19: of mountain forest or that tour tour and beach forest

1777
01:30:50,093 --> 01:30:53,653
Speaker 19: on the trail making your way to that waterfall, tumbling

1778
01:30:53,693 --> 01:30:56,373
Speaker 19: over the edge of an ancient lava flow. And of

1779
01:30:56,413 --> 01:30:59,133
Speaker 19: course for movie fans it's a go to because it

1780
01:30:59,173 --> 01:31:01,693
Speaker 19: was one of the two waterfalls used in Lord of

1781
01:31:01,733 --> 01:31:05,413
Speaker 19: the Rings that depicted golumn fishing. Now the track the

1782
01:31:05,453 --> 01:31:10,613
Speaker 19: Tarfi Falls that starts close to the chateau, and I

1783
01:31:10,653 --> 01:31:13,773
Speaker 19: have to say, Jack, it was so sad to see

1784
01:31:13,813 --> 01:31:18,373
Speaker 19: it in such a sorry, mothballed state. The word is, though,

1785
01:31:18,493 --> 01:31:20,813
Speaker 19: and several locals said this to me a couple of

1786
01:31:20,813 --> 01:31:25,253
Speaker 19: weeks ago, The word is a certain billionaire. Oh, it

1787
01:31:25,333 --> 01:31:31,453
Speaker 19: is current, currently in negotiations to breathe new life into

1788
01:31:31,453 --> 01:31:35,013
Speaker 19: that Grand Lady, I hasten to add, it's an Irish billionaire,

1789
01:31:35,053 --> 01:31:36,253
Speaker 19: not a Canadian this time.

1790
01:31:36,333 --> 01:31:41,093
Speaker 2: Okay. Oh what's the space though? Okay, if you're looking

1791
01:31:41,093 --> 01:31:44,373
Speaker 2: for a bigger kind of day hike, what would you recommend.

1792
01:31:46,013 --> 01:31:49,173
Speaker 19: Well, I've just knocked off the two Papakura Falls walk

1793
01:31:49,253 --> 01:31:51,853
Speaker 19: for the first time. So this is on Fish's Road,

1794
01:31:51,933 --> 01:31:55,653
Speaker 19: just out of National Park Village, and you've got two choices.

1795
01:31:55,693 --> 01:31:56,013
Speaker 3: Really.

1796
01:31:56,293 --> 01:31:59,093
Speaker 19: It begins with a very easy twenty minute walk to

1797
01:31:59,133 --> 01:32:02,173
Speaker 19: the Tartanaky lookout. The reason it's called that is because

1798
01:32:02,213 --> 01:32:05,493
Speaker 19: you get this very unique perspective. You can see Mount

1799
01:32:05,573 --> 01:32:08,813
Speaker 19: Tartanaki and Mount Ruapehu from the same.

1800
01:32:08,613 --> 01:32:10,213
Speaker 3: Spot, which is pretty cool.

1801
01:32:11,053 --> 01:32:14,973
Speaker 19: But keep going because beyond the lookout the trail becomes

1802
01:32:15,013 --> 01:32:20,373
Speaker 19: a backcountry adventure track through the magnificent Urua Forest. The

1803
01:32:20,413 --> 01:32:23,293
Speaker 19: whole war will take about four hours to complete, but

1804
01:32:23,373 --> 01:32:26,973
Speaker 19: you just see so many native trees in that forest

1805
01:32:27,013 --> 01:32:29,733
Speaker 19: and the sweep reward right at the end, the sparkling

1806
01:32:29,773 --> 01:32:34,973
Speaker 19: lookout on the very long drop of the two Papakura falls.

1807
01:32:35,213 --> 01:32:39,253
Speaker 2: Do it, Hey, what's attracting the crowds to or fungal.

1808
01:32:40,253 --> 01:32:43,853
Speaker 19: Yes, Orfungo is home to the orhenatong A Scenic Reserve

1809
01:32:43,933 --> 01:32:46,493
Speaker 19: and this is such a gem this place because it

1810
01:32:46,573 --> 01:32:49,733
Speaker 19: was about a decade ago that the local residents of

1811
01:32:49,893 --> 01:32:52,933
Speaker 19: Orfungo banded together to bring the BirdLife back to this

1812
01:32:53,173 --> 01:32:58,533
Speaker 19: unlogged native pottercar forest. The predators had gone killed the birds,

1813
01:32:58,773 --> 01:33:01,773
Speaker 19: so they decided to kill the predators and they've sent

1814
01:33:01,853 --> 01:33:05,333
Speaker 19: them packing. So it's now also one of our national

1815
01:33:05,413 --> 01:33:10,013
Speaker 19: Kiwi sentries. It is home to a burgeoning population of

1816
01:33:10,093 --> 01:33:13,453
Speaker 19: native birdies and you've got this fantastic loop track around

1817
01:33:13,493 --> 01:33:17,373
Speaker 19: the reserve, which is just the ultimate in forest bathing.

1818
01:33:17,573 --> 01:33:20,813
Speaker 19: I gave a massive six hundred year old Tottara tree

1819
01:33:21,013 --> 01:33:23,613
Speaker 19: a fresh hug. I had given them a hug four

1820
01:33:23,693 --> 01:33:26,293
Speaker 19: years ago, and I thought, this tall boy needs a

1821
01:33:26,333 --> 01:33:29,933
Speaker 19: fresh hug. Yes, I'm still a very absolutely I am

1822
01:33:29,973 --> 01:33:31,453
Speaker 19: still a happy little tree hugger.

1823
01:33:31,573 --> 01:33:31,813
Speaker 5: Ah.

1824
01:33:31,853 --> 01:33:32,493
Speaker 2: That's nice.

1825
01:33:32,613 --> 01:33:32,853
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1826
01:33:32,893 --> 01:33:36,133
Speaker 2: Well, and for something kind of curious and quirky, close

1827
01:33:36,173 --> 01:33:39,773
Speaker 2: to Hakun, tell us about the car graveyard.

1828
01:33:40,813 --> 01:33:42,613
Speaker 19: For a docent classic Keviana.

1829
01:33:42,733 --> 01:33:43,933
Speaker 4: This is just so cool.

1830
01:33:44,013 --> 01:33:47,653
Speaker 19: So it's Horipito Motors and this is the place that

1831
01:33:47,813 --> 01:33:51,453
Speaker 19: featured in both The Smash Palace and Goodbye pork Pie.

1832
01:33:51,813 --> 01:33:54,733
Speaker 19: In fact, the business is nicknamed Smash Palace, so you

1833
01:33:54,773 --> 01:33:57,733
Speaker 19: can see all of the film andabilia there. But check

1834
01:33:57,733 --> 01:34:01,973
Speaker 19: out the vast a car graveyard because this place is

1835
01:34:02,013 --> 01:34:08,053
Speaker 19: the biggest vintage car dismantling operation Australasia. It's like this

1836
01:34:08,293 --> 01:34:11,613
Speaker 19: enormous op shop for old cars and a lot of

1837
01:34:11,613 --> 01:34:13,973
Speaker 19: the parts shipped all over the world.

1838
01:34:14,253 --> 01:34:15,253
Speaker 4: Truly quirky.

1839
01:34:15,573 --> 01:34:18,293
Speaker 2: And is it like like it looks nice.

1840
01:34:18,333 --> 01:34:18,613
Speaker 6: It's not.

1841
01:34:18,853 --> 01:34:20,653
Speaker 2: It's not like it a giant dump or anything.

1842
01:34:21,933 --> 01:34:23,253
Speaker 19: No, it's sort of orderly.

1843
01:34:23,613 --> 01:34:29,733
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I get that.

1844
01:34:29,813 --> 01:34:33,253
Speaker 19: Yeah, nice, Yeah, orderly and rustic.

1845
01:34:33,533 --> 01:34:38,573
Speaker 2: Yes, okay, you go quite literally. I suppose yes, that's cool.

1846
01:34:38,613 --> 01:34:41,453
Speaker 2: I like that. I like a off the beating track

1847
01:34:41,493 --> 01:34:45,333
Speaker 2: kind of. Okay, thank you very much, sir. That sounds great.

1848
01:34:45,493 --> 01:34:46,893
Speaker 2: To make sure all of those tips are up and

1849
01:34:46,933 --> 01:34:49,653
Speaker 2: available on the news talks'd be website. The best thing,

1850
01:34:49,733 --> 01:34:51,533
Speaker 2: the best place to go for everything from our show.

1851
01:34:51,693 --> 01:34:53,733
Speaker 2: If you just want to go straight through to all

1852
01:34:53,813 --> 01:34:55,653
Speaker 2: the stuff that we recommend us to, go to News Talks,

1853
01:34:55,653 --> 01:34:59,253
Speaker 2: he'db dot co dot nz Ford slash Jack and we'll

1854
01:34:59,293 --> 01:35:02,093
Speaker 2: have links to everything there. Right now, it is twenty

1855
01:35:02,133 --> 01:35:04,613
Speaker 2: six minutes past eleven. You were Jacktame on Newstalks.

1856
01:35:04,693 --> 01:35:04,893
Speaker 4: 'd be.

1857
01:35:08,653 --> 01:35:10,333
Speaker 3: Getting your weekend started.

1858
01:35:10,533 --> 01:35:39,533
Speaker 1: It's Saturday morning with Jack team on News talksbus Olivia Rodrigo.

1859
01:35:39,733 --> 01:35:43,693
Speaker 2: She's been announced for the Sunday headline spot at Glastonbury.

1860
01:35:44,293 --> 01:35:46,853
Speaker 2: It's pretty amazing really, like most of the songs on

1861
01:35:46,853 --> 01:35:48,693
Speaker 2: her debut album have done super well.

1862
01:35:48,693 --> 01:35:49,173
Speaker 6: They've got like.

1863
01:35:49,133 --> 01:35:52,253
Speaker 2: Billions and billions of streams on Spotify and all of

1864
01:35:52,253 --> 01:35:56,133
Speaker 2: the streaming platforms, YouTube, et cetera. But just to contextualize

1865
01:35:56,133 --> 01:35:59,813
Speaker 2: how big she has become, Glastonbury and the Sunday night

1866
01:35:59,853 --> 01:36:03,173
Speaker 2: slot is like among the biggest gigs in music. So

1867
01:36:03,413 --> 01:36:05,293
Speaker 2: the nineteen seventy five are going to play the Friday slot,

1868
01:36:05,373 --> 01:36:10,133
Speaker 2: Neil young Is, said headliner Olivia Rodrigo for the Sunday Diverse.

1869
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Speaker 2: You would have to say the very least for the Yeah,

1870
01:36:13,413 --> 01:36:15,773
Speaker 2: for the next lineup at glaston Right now before midday

1871
01:36:15,813 --> 01:36:18,213
Speaker 2: on news Talks, he'd be you know that amazing Apple

1872
01:36:18,293 --> 01:36:21,333
Speaker 2: TV series Presumed Innocent, the one with Jake gyllen Hall.

1873
01:36:21,373 --> 01:36:25,213
Speaker 2: I think that's Apple TV's biggest ever streaming series so

1874
01:36:25,333 --> 01:36:28,453
Speaker 2: far or to date. Anyway, they're coming up with a

1875
01:36:28,493 --> 01:36:31,933
Speaker 2: sequel to that on Apple TV. But the author behind

1876
01:36:32,093 --> 01:36:35,813
Speaker 2: Presumed Innocent has a brand new book called Presumed Guilty,

1877
01:36:36,013 --> 01:36:37,693
Speaker 2: and we're going to tell you about that before twelve

1878
01:36:37,693 --> 01:36:40,333
Speaker 2: o'clock today. Apparently, if the book is half as good

1879
01:36:40,333 --> 01:36:42,733
Speaker 2: as the series, then that's very much one to read.

1880
01:36:43,293 --> 01:36:45,333
Speaker 2: Right now, though it is eleven thirty. Jason Pine is

1881
01:36:45,373 --> 01:36:48,733
Speaker 2: with us before he takes control of the mics and

1882
01:36:48,773 --> 01:36:51,373
Speaker 2: the buttons and the dials for Midday Sport for a

1883
01:36:51,613 --> 01:36:54,573
Speaker 2: weekend sport today after Midday kild to Piney, Kill to Jack.

1884
01:36:55,733 --> 01:36:59,373
Speaker 2: Pretty disappointing result for the Blues last night in the end,

1885
01:36:59,373 --> 01:37:02,813
Speaker 2: I think they led for I mean that second half.

1886
01:37:02,813 --> 01:37:06,493
Speaker 2: It felt like they were ahead for about the thirty

1887
01:37:06,733 --> 01:37:08,733
Speaker 2: minutes of that second half, only to give away a

1888
01:37:08,773 --> 01:37:10,973
Speaker 2: penalty in the dying moment, and then to have Boden

1889
01:37:10,973 --> 01:37:14,093
Speaker 2: Barrett with potentially broken bones in his hand as well.

1890
01:37:15,093 --> 01:37:17,933
Speaker 2: Now looking at what three and one from four games

1891
01:37:17,933 --> 01:37:19,533
Speaker 2: and Super Rugby, not a great start, the.

1892
01:37:19,573 --> 01:37:23,373
Speaker 21: Disease no, indeed a plenty to furrow the brow of

1893
01:37:23,493 --> 01:37:25,573
Speaker 21: vern Cotta. You might say after last night, You're right, Jack,

1894
01:37:25,613 --> 01:37:28,013
Speaker 21: I mean, they were what twenty points to ten ahead

1895
01:37:28,093 --> 01:37:30,853
Speaker 21: at half time, didn't score a single point in the

1896
01:37:30,893 --> 01:37:34,053
Speaker 21: second half, and the Brumbies just chipped away a penalty,

1897
01:37:34,213 --> 01:37:38,213
Speaker 21: then a try which the conversion of was missed, and

1898
01:37:38,253 --> 01:37:39,973
Speaker 21: then you're right at the end, as you say, seventy

1899
01:37:40,053 --> 01:37:42,893
Speaker 21: nine eighty minutes the penalty awarded against them, And yeah,

1900
01:37:42,893 --> 01:37:44,893
Speaker 21: the Blues will be waking up this morning or would

1901
01:37:44,933 --> 01:37:46,973
Speaker 21: have and wondered how that one got away from them.

1902
01:37:47,253 --> 01:37:49,733
Speaker 21: They should have closed it out. Yeah, not ideal having

1903
01:37:49,773 --> 01:37:51,893
Speaker 21: Boden Barrett leave at halftime, not just for the Blues

1904
01:37:51,933 --> 01:37:54,693
Speaker 21: but potentially for the All Blacks as well, although from

1905
01:37:54,693 --> 01:37:58,013
Speaker 21: what we understand it's not a it's weeks not months

1906
01:37:58,053 --> 01:38:00,973
Speaker 21: for boden Bar in terms of the fracture to its hand.

1907
01:38:01,053 --> 01:38:05,693
Speaker 21: Ricky rickertally also left late on with a pectoral injury.

1908
01:38:05,813 --> 01:38:08,973
Speaker 21: So yeah, there's a bit to digest for vern Conna.

1909
01:38:09,293 --> 01:38:11,933
Speaker 21: I still think they'll be okay, but yeah, they'd want

1910
01:38:11,933 --> 01:38:13,413
Speaker 21: to get a bit of a wriggle on because they

1911
01:38:13,453 --> 01:38:15,413
Speaker 21: could have lost to the Hurricanes last week. Yeah, they

1912
01:38:15,413 --> 01:38:17,973
Speaker 21: could be. They could be and four you know, they'll

1913
01:38:17,973 --> 01:38:19,973
Speaker 21: turn things around. They're two talentsed a roster not to

1914
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Speaker 21: got to be happy for the Brumbies though, twelve years

1915
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Speaker 21: between wins of Edon Park. They'll be hopping back on

1916
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Speaker 21: a plane in Pairy in fairly buoyant mood, I would imagine.

1917
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Speaker 2: Yes, so I think so. Now the Phoenix said what

1918
01:38:32,013 --> 01:38:33,813
Speaker 2: they need? How many finals in a row? Now they

1919
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Speaker 2: their literatary basically every regular season game another eight finals

1920
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Speaker 2: they're preparing for because they've got to win everything now

1921
01:38:40,933 --> 01:38:42,933
Speaker 2: if they're going to make the playoffs. It hasn't been

1922
01:38:43,013 --> 01:38:45,013
Speaker 2: hasn't been a great season so far. Last weekend a

1923
01:38:45,013 --> 01:38:49,573
Speaker 2: bit disappointing, but tonight they are up against Western United.

1924
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Speaker 21: Yeah, once you start talking mathematical possibilities. You know, you're

1925
01:38:53,573 --> 01:38:56,653
Speaker 21: in you know, warrior's territory.

1926
01:38:56,773 --> 01:38:59,613
Speaker 2: That's right. I didn't want to say it, but it's

1927
01:38:59,653 --> 01:39:00,613
Speaker 2: sort of that sort of thing.

1928
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Speaker 21: Yeah, Look, they have they've won i think one of

1929
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Speaker 21: their last eight or nine, and they've got to win

1930
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Speaker 21: all of their last eight real to have a realistic chance.

1931
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Speaker 21: So I think we can probably say that the playoffs

1932
01:39:10,253 --> 01:39:13,453
Speaker 21: are a very very slim possibility for the Phoenix. Instead,

1933
01:39:13,453 --> 01:39:15,733
Speaker 21: they've got to kind of try and I guess salvage

1934
01:39:15,733 --> 01:39:18,373
Speaker 21: something from their season up the road. Obviously, Auckland FC

1935
01:39:18,533 --> 01:39:21,213
Speaker 21: are at the other end of the form scale. They're

1936
01:39:21,213 --> 01:39:24,973
Speaker 21: away at Newcastle tomorrow night looking to extend their lead

1937
01:39:25,093 --> 01:39:27,653
Speaker 21: at the top of the A League. So yeah, contrasting

1938
01:39:27,693 --> 01:39:31,813
Speaker 21: fortunes for our two A League men's sides. But you know,

1939
01:39:32,413 --> 01:39:34,213
Speaker 21: this is what sport is, isn't it. You know, you

1940
01:39:34,253 --> 01:39:36,653
Speaker 21: look back twelve months and the Phoenix were flying high

1941
01:39:36,653 --> 01:39:39,093
Speaker 21: and Auckland FC he didn't even have a team, and

1942
01:39:39,173 --> 01:39:41,813
Speaker 21: here we are now and it's all changed. So yet, right,

1943
01:39:41,853 --> 01:39:44,573
Speaker 21: the roller coaster, the ups and the downs, and just

1944
01:39:44,733 --> 01:39:46,573
Speaker 21: know at some stage that things will turn around.

1945
01:39:46,653 --> 01:39:48,853
Speaker 2: How are you feeling about the Black Cats prospects in

1946
01:39:48,893 --> 01:39:50,013
Speaker 2: the Champions Trophy Final.

1947
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Speaker 21: Like you, I'm worried about Matt Henry. I think if

1948
01:39:53,213 --> 01:39:55,773
Speaker 21: you are going to take anybody out of that team,

1949
01:39:55,933 --> 01:39:58,413
Speaker 21: you know, he doesn't seem like a guy you land

1950
01:39:58,413 --> 01:40:02,173
Speaker 21: on Williamson, Ravendra players like that. But Matt Henry is

1951
01:40:02,253 --> 01:40:06,093
Speaker 21: so integral to our seam attack. I know it's more

1952
01:40:06,173 --> 01:40:09,693
Speaker 21: like to be, you know, a spin heavy kind of final,

1953
01:40:10,053 --> 01:40:13,653
Speaker 21: but Matt Henry does such an important job with the

1954
01:40:13,693 --> 01:40:16,253
Speaker 21: new ball and at the back end of it innings

1955
01:40:16,253 --> 01:40:19,133
Speaker 21: in terms of taking the pace off and things like that.

1956
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Speaker 21: So I'm a bit worried about that. Having said that,

1957
01:40:23,053 --> 01:40:24,973
Speaker 21: you know, if he isn't there, then I guess Jacob

1958
01:40:25,053 --> 01:40:28,453
Speaker 21: Duffy comes in or Nathan Smith and we probably do

1959
01:40:28,573 --> 01:40:30,733
Speaker 21: rely more on you know, we're going to get ten

1960
01:40:30,773 --> 01:40:33,573
Speaker 21: overs out of Mitchell Santner and Michael Brace will anyway,

1961
01:40:33,733 --> 01:40:35,853
Speaker 21: maybe Glenn Phillips and Rutch and Revendra have to do

1962
01:40:35,933 --> 01:40:39,133
Speaker 21: more bowling. I'm really really encouraged by the way we

1963
01:40:39,213 --> 01:40:41,893
Speaker 21: played against South Africa in that semi Look, if you

1964
01:40:41,933 --> 01:40:45,533
Speaker 21: could have set up an ideal semi final, you know,

1965
01:40:46,133 --> 01:40:48,733
Speaker 21: first in things score, that would be it. I mean,

1966
01:40:48,933 --> 01:40:51,573
Speaker 21: Rutchan Revender is batting on a different planet. I'm just

1967
01:40:52,053 --> 01:40:54,933
Speaker 21: so impressed by him. Came Williamson is just being Came

1968
01:40:54,973 --> 01:40:58,573
Speaker 21: Williamson and getting contributions from Phillips and Mitchell and others.

1969
01:40:58,613 --> 01:41:01,853
Speaker 21: So look, I'm certainly I don't have a young baby

1970
01:41:01,893 --> 01:41:03,893
Speaker 21: at home that I've got an excuse to stay up for.

1971
01:41:06,693 --> 01:41:08,493
Speaker 2: Ye're right, I'll be up. I'll be up. I'll probably

1972
01:41:08,533 --> 01:41:12,413
Speaker 2: be texting you actually during the game. I'll be about that.

1973
01:41:13,973 --> 01:41:14,093
Speaker 4: Now.

1974
01:41:14,093 --> 01:41:16,053
Speaker 2: I'm looking forward to it. What's on the cars this afternoon?

1975
01:41:16,293 --> 01:41:18,973
Speaker 21: Well, Jack Mesley, who's the CEO of SUPERP pacificause it

1976
01:41:18,973 --> 01:41:20,453
Speaker 21: in the studio actually is going to pop in straight

1977
01:41:20,453 --> 01:41:22,613
Speaker 21: after mid day to chat to us. I think he'd

1978
01:41:22,653 --> 01:41:25,653
Speaker 21: be overall pretty pleased by all metrics. You know, the

1979
01:41:25,693 --> 01:41:28,533
Speaker 21: games have been good, lots of tries, close contests, upset

1980
01:41:28,933 --> 01:41:31,013
Speaker 21: as we saw last night. Viewer numbers this week from

1981
01:41:31,053 --> 01:41:33,213
Speaker 21: Skype were very good. So a couple of things to

1982
01:41:33,533 --> 01:41:35,733
Speaker 21: chew over. Also this I'm going to try and get

1983
01:41:35,733 --> 01:41:39,453
Speaker 21: to the bottom of this. Fiji and Drew a travel Schermozzle.

1984
01:41:39,333 --> 01:41:41,933
Speaker 2: Who's unbelievable.

1985
01:41:42,133 --> 01:41:44,453
Speaker 21: It does, it really does, and I just wonder where

1986
01:41:45,133 --> 01:41:46,573
Speaker 21: ultimate responsibility lies.

1987
01:41:46,613 --> 01:41:47,493
Speaker 2: Look put it this way Jack.

1988
01:41:47,493 --> 01:41:49,853
Speaker 21: If I'm if I'm in a team and i land at

1989
01:41:49,893 --> 01:41:52,253
Speaker 21: the at an airport and I'm waiting for a bus

1990
01:41:52,253 --> 01:41:54,893
Speaker 21: and the bus isn't there, the first person I'm asking

1991
01:41:55,293 --> 01:41:57,253
Speaker 21: for an explanation from is my own manager.

1992
01:41:58,133 --> 01:42:00,013
Speaker 2: That's how it feels to me. I know it.

1993
01:42:00,053 --> 01:42:02,133
Speaker 21: There's more to it than that. I'm interested to hear

1994
01:42:02,453 --> 01:42:05,933
Speaker 21: from Jack Nesley. Actually, where ultimate responsibility lies. It's a

1995
01:42:06,413 --> 01:42:08,293
Speaker 21: I mean, it's not a great situation when you have

1996
01:42:08,333 --> 01:42:10,133
Speaker 21: to travel from Auckland to Napier in the back of

1997
01:42:10,173 --> 01:42:14,213
Speaker 21: a truck. You know that's not ideal. But I'm keen

1998
01:42:14,253 --> 01:42:16,733
Speaker 21: to find out more about about who books the travel

1999
01:42:17,053 --> 01:42:19,013
Speaker 21: where the responsibility ultimately lies.

2000
01:42:19,373 --> 01:42:22,013
Speaker 2: Also this afternoon, Rory Felon's on the show.

2001
01:42:23,093 --> 01:42:26,613
Speaker 21: Yeah, it's twenty five years of celebration at Sky Stadium

2002
01:42:26,653 --> 01:42:29,173
Speaker 21: this weekend, Yeah, since it opened in two thousand. So

2003
01:42:29,173 --> 01:42:30,773
Speaker 21: I want to talk to him about that famous goal

2004
01:42:30,813 --> 01:42:33,733
Speaker 21: against Bahrain back in two thousand and night. Because, of course,

2005
01:42:33,733 --> 01:42:36,813
Speaker 21: the All Whites are shortly set to make the final

2006
01:42:36,813 --> 01:42:39,573
Speaker 21: push for next year's Football World Cup, a lot easier

2007
01:42:39,613 --> 01:42:41,813
Speaker 21: to get there through Oceania than in the days of

2008
01:42:41,893 --> 01:42:44,253
Speaker 21: Rory Fallon. But looking forward to to wandering a bit

2009
01:42:44,253 --> 01:42:46,693
Speaker 21: down Memory Lane with him after one o'clock this afternoon.

2010
01:42:46,693 --> 01:42:50,533
Speaker 2: I've got my tickets, got tickets, fine, Yeah, me and

2011
01:42:50,573 --> 01:42:52,413
Speaker 2: the eight year old are going to go along. Although lovely,

2012
01:42:52,453 --> 01:42:54,733
Speaker 2: I've tried to explain the concept term. I'm like, so,

2013
01:42:54,893 --> 01:42:56,293
Speaker 2: you know, we don't actually know who's going to be

2014
01:42:56,333 --> 01:42:58,293
Speaker 2: in the final this year. It's safe to assume that

2015
01:42:58,653 --> 01:43:00,533
Speaker 2: the all whites are the favorite, but we could end

2016
01:43:00,613 --> 01:43:06,773
Speaker 2: up seeing Sarmore and Tuvaralu at Eden Park on. You

2017
01:43:06,773 --> 01:43:09,773
Speaker 2: know that feels unlikely. She does feel unlikely, but you

2018
01:43:09,893 --> 01:43:11,253
Speaker 2: never know. You know, you don't want to get an

2019
01:43:11,253 --> 01:43:13,613
Speaker 2: eight year old too excited anyway, No, true, you're right there. Hey,

2020
01:43:13,693 --> 01:43:15,653
Speaker 2: thank you so much. Looking forward to this afternoon, Jay,

2021
01:43:15,693 --> 01:43:17,533
Speaker 2: Thank you, Jame. We'll be with us for weekend sport

2022
01:43:17,653 --> 01:43:20,493
Speaker 2: right after the midday news. Before midday, we'll play you

2023
01:43:20,573 --> 01:43:24,053
Speaker 2: some of Lady Gaga's brand new album Mayhem, and next

2024
01:43:24,093 --> 01:43:26,253
Speaker 2: up your book picks for this weekend. It's twenty three to.

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01:43:26,213 --> 01:43:30,613
Speaker 1: Twelve Saturday morning with Jack Team Full Show podcast on

2026
01:43:30,773 --> 01:43:33,493
Speaker 1: iHeartRadio powered by News Talk Z'B.

2027
01:43:34,693 --> 01:43:36,933
Speaker 2: Twenty one to twelve on News Talks. He'd be Katherine

2028
01:43:37,013 --> 01:43:39,013
Speaker 2: Rains as our book reviewer and she's here with her

2029
01:43:39,053 --> 01:43:42,773
Speaker 2: two recommendations for us this weekend. Hi, Catherine Hijack Okay.

2030
01:43:42,853 --> 01:43:45,933
Speaker 2: Let's start off with Dream Count, which is the latest

2031
01:43:45,933 --> 01:43:48,053
Speaker 2: book by Chamanda and Gauzy Aduchy.

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Speaker 23: So it actually takes on some major themes in this novel.

2033
01:43:51,533 --> 01:43:53,853
Speaker 23: It's her first and ten years and she explores lots

2034
01:43:53,853 --> 01:43:58,533
Speaker 23: of race, belonging, class issues, societal norms, corruption, sexism, and morality.

2035
01:43:58,813 --> 01:44:01,893
Speaker 23: And all her characters have these different belief systems that

2036
01:44:01,973 --> 01:44:07,333
Speaker 23: sometimes clash, and she's telling the story on for Nigerian

2037
01:44:07,373 --> 01:44:09,493
Speaker 23: women who are in their forties have reached these major

2038
01:44:09,533 --> 01:44:12,813
Speaker 23: turning points in their lives. So there's Jimmy Kanda, who's

2039
01:44:12,973 --> 01:44:15,053
Speaker 23: a travel writer who was raised in wealth and she's

2040
01:44:15,093 --> 01:44:17,333
Speaker 23: living in the US and she's talking about her past

2041
01:44:17,373 --> 01:44:21,173
Speaker 23: lovers and the ending of each relationship. And her best friend, Shikora,

2042
01:44:21,453 --> 01:44:24,093
Speaker 23: is a lawyer who's always been successful, but she's been

2043
01:44:24,133 --> 01:44:27,093
Speaker 23: portrayed and she turns back to her mother in that time.

2044
01:44:27,733 --> 01:44:30,573
Speaker 23: And then there's a Maliga who's her cousin and she

2045
01:44:30,653 --> 01:44:33,973
Speaker 23: lives in Nigeria and she's an incredibly successful banker and

2046
01:44:34,013 --> 01:44:37,973
Speaker 23: she's enormously donates to people to alleviate some of the

2047
01:44:38,013 --> 01:44:40,853
Speaker 23: shame for the corruption and her work. And finally there's

2048
01:44:40,893 --> 01:44:44,493
Speaker 23: Katal who's her housekeeper and she's very proud to be

2049
01:44:44,573 --> 01:44:47,853
Speaker 23: raising her teenage daughter in America and her book kind

2050
01:44:47,853 --> 01:44:50,813
Speaker 23: of the book traces her childhood of Nigeria to the

2051
01:44:50,813 --> 01:44:53,213
Speaker 23: present day where she's sort of faced with the situation

2052
01:44:53,333 --> 01:44:57,173
Speaker 23: where she might actually lose everything. And so these women

2053
01:44:57,213 --> 01:45:00,933
Speaker 23: are unlikely friends in lots of ways, and they navigate

2054
01:45:00,973 --> 01:45:03,933
Speaker 23: their expectations in life and realities and you get these

2055
01:45:03,973 --> 01:45:08,093
Speaker 23: interconnect stories told from different perspectives and aductly managed to

2056
01:45:08,093 --> 01:45:10,613
Speaker 23: get layer upon layer for these characters. And she's an

2057
01:45:10,653 --> 01:45:13,253
Speaker 23: incredibly talented writer and it leaves you with lots of

2058
01:45:13,293 --> 01:45:15,213
Speaker 23: feelings and thoughts at the end of the novel.

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Speaker 2: Yah nice, Okay, that's dream count by Chamanda and Gorzi

2060
01:45:18,813 --> 01:45:24,653
Speaker 2: a Duchy. You've also read Presumed Guilty by Scott tuah.

2061
01:45:23,613 --> 01:45:25,813
Speaker 23: So in this which follows a book that he wrote

2062
01:45:26,213 --> 01:45:28,773
Speaker 23: over thirty years ago called Presumed Innocent, which last year

2063
01:45:28,813 --> 01:45:31,173
Speaker 23: was turned into Apple.

2064
01:45:30,933 --> 01:45:32,213
Speaker 12: Series with Jake Giggenhall.

2065
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Speaker 23: And in this Rusty Sobat she's now a seventy year

2066
01:45:35,213 --> 01:45:37,893
Speaker 23: old retired judge and he finds himself in this quiet

2067
01:45:37,933 --> 01:45:41,533
Speaker 23: lakeside community and he's with his fancy b and they

2068
01:45:41,533 --> 01:45:46,093
Speaker 23: have this great life and she is a position of

2069
01:45:46,093 --> 01:45:48,493
Speaker 23: a principal at local school and they've lived together but

2070
01:45:48,773 --> 01:45:52,413
Speaker 23: never married, and they share their home with her adopted son, Aaron.

2071
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Speaker 23: And it hadn't be easy for him growing up as

2072
01:45:55,093 --> 01:45:58,413
Speaker 23: the only black kid in a primarily white community, and

2073
01:45:58,453 --> 01:46:02,133
Speaker 23: he'd found his relationship with his lovely girl, May, who

2074
01:46:02,133 --> 01:46:04,933
Speaker 23: had met at school. But also on the other hand,

2075
01:46:04,973 --> 01:46:08,613
Speaker 23: he finds himself serving probation sentence for a drug offense,

2076
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Speaker 23: and Rusty and b agree to take responsibility for him

2077
01:46:12,813 --> 01:46:15,933
Speaker 23: and those restrictions as part of probation, and all's going

2078
01:46:16,013 --> 01:46:18,253
Speaker 23: kind of well until Aaron and May decide to go

2079
01:46:18,373 --> 01:46:22,373
Speaker 23: camping together. And Aaron knew that leaving home and driving

2080
01:46:22,453 --> 01:46:26,813
Speaker 23: were against his per role of probation agreement. And that's

2081
01:46:26,853 --> 01:46:29,333
Speaker 23: the trip that changes his life because shortly after he

2082
01:46:29,413 --> 01:46:33,093
Speaker 23: returns without her, her body's discovered and he's charged with

2083
01:46:33,173 --> 01:46:36,973
Speaker 23: first degree murder, and against his better judgment, Rusty decides

2084
01:46:37,013 --> 01:46:39,013
Speaker 23: to take on the case, and that's where you get

2085
01:46:39,053 --> 01:46:42,133
Speaker 23: the twists and the turns and courtroom suspense and this

2086
01:46:42,253 --> 01:46:45,653
Speaker 23: legal drama that takes place in those courtrooms, and Scottrow

2087
01:46:45,893 --> 01:46:49,733
Speaker 23: is incredibly good at writing these courtroom scenes and making

2088
01:46:49,773 --> 01:46:53,693
Speaker 23: you feel like you're sitting there right with the parties involved.

2089
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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, cool, So that's presumed guilty by Scott Tua.

2090
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Speaker 2: Your first book is dream Count by Jamanda and Gozzi

2091
01:47:00,013 --> 01:47:01,653
Speaker 2: Adachi and Catherine's recommendations.

2092
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Speaker 6: Will be on the news talks.

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Speaker 2: He'd be website new music from Gaga in a couple

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Speaker 2: of minutes, even Deane to twelve giving.

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Speaker 1: You the inside scoop on All you Need to Us

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Speaker 7: It'd be.

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Speaker 18: By you.

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Speaker 2: That is How Bad Do You Want Me? By Lady Gaga.

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Speaker 2: Her new album is called Mayhem Now music via Style.

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Speaker 2: Cliff has been listening more than I love a bit

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Speaker 2: of Gaga, love a bit of Gaga, throwing it back

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Speaker 2: to O g Gaga, thank you.

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Speaker 12: I'm glad that you're soaking up that vibe. But like

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Speaker 12: everybody having to go back to check the credits of

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Speaker 12: who's singing that song right because she sounds so tato.

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Speaker 2: Yeah she does sound very Yeah, I don't.

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Speaker 12: Think i'd really credited that back early Lady Gaga did

2110
01:48:11,693 --> 01:48:14,933
Speaker 12: sound Taylor Swifty, or does Taylor Swifty sound Lady Gaga?

2111
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Speaker 12: I don't know, but that song in particular on the

2112
01:48:17,133 --> 01:48:20,333
Speaker 12: album has had everyone doing exactly the same thing, and

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Speaker 12: rumor has it, but I don't think it's true that

2114
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Speaker 12: Taylor Swift laid down the backing vocals. But you couldn't

2115
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Speaker 12: then release a song and not have Taylor Swift.

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Speaker 2: You couldn't. Yah, surely that would be yeah, exactly.

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Speaker 12: Yes, So I don't think that's true. But anyway, she

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Speaker 12: does sound very, very tate and interesting kind of lead

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Speaker 12: into this album because this song is kind of in

2120
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Speaker 12: the in the halfway point, and that's where things get

2121
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Speaker 12: a little bit more lighthearted and probably a bit more

2122
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Speaker 12: poppy and some of the funk soul kind of stuff

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Speaker 12: that she does where the start of the album is

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Speaker 12: all that Abraca Deborah disease that we're we like. I

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Speaker 12: just love getting it drawn into those Lady Gaga songs

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Speaker 12: where you're like, I'm just singing some nonsense lyrics, I'm

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Speaker 12: making this stuff up, but I feel like I want

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Speaker 12: to struten the sun and zode some sort of crazy

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Speaker 12: energy And I love this. I love that we've gone

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Speaker 12: back to the paus Up Little Monsters, a new era

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Speaker 12: of that. For Lady Gaga, it feels confident and it's

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Speaker 12: it's strong and crazy and all those things that you

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Speaker 12: would expect and a little bit weird and a little

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Speaker 12: bit you know, like off the calf where you're like,

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Speaker 12: thank goodness.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, poppy, but kind of she's always had a kind

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Speaker 2: of a slightly it's weird because she's very center of

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Speaker 2: the culture, but you know, she's always had a kind

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Speaker 2: of slightly counterculturally in the same way that Madonna was

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Speaker 2: kind of Absolutely.

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Speaker 12: I'm going to take all that stuff you kind of

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Speaker 12: know and you feel familiar with, and then I'm just

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Speaker 12: going to put it through a blender and come back

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Speaker 12: out the other side and really own it. And I

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Speaker 12: think that's the magic of what makes Lady Gaga who

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Speaker 12: she is. And also then you put out the fact

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Speaker 12: that she has an incredible voice, so she can do

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Speaker 12: some real cool things with her vocals, and she loves

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Speaker 12: to play with that kind of stuff. I'm like, if

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Speaker 12: you're ever on Dancing with the Stars, Jack, can you

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01:50:05,573 --> 01:50:08,613
Speaker 12: please like cut some shows to disease or Ebraka Debora.

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Speaker 12: I'm pitching your songs for you.

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Speaker 2: It is the first part of that composition, the dancer.

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Speaker 12: But she always makes me feel like I could be

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Speaker 12: a wicked dancer, a really great backup dancer. There's just

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Speaker 12: something about her music and this this album has really

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Speaker 12: got that, you know, like it's kind of dark as well.

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Speaker 12: There's like sort of dark lyrics, the things that she's

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Speaker 12: talking about. Perfect Celebrity. That is such a great track.

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Speaker 12: It's I mean, it's so wrong, but it's so right,

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Speaker 12: which I think again is what Lady Gaga can do

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Speaker 12: really really well. And that kind of bad or thriller

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Speaker 12: of Michael Jackson, you know where you're like, this is

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Speaker 12: sort of creepy and cool. But there's there's kind of

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Speaker 12: like constantly more of that that's going on. There's gonna

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Speaker 12: be some real sweaty club dance flowards when everyone's like

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Speaker 12: getting their grinds onto some of these tracks, which I

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Speaker 12: think is I think is great. It's it's one of

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Speaker 12: those albums you can listen to lots and lots and

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Speaker 12: lots of which is what the fame was as well. Yeah,

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Speaker 12: that's why she's had so many hits of that album.

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Speaker 12: There's a little bit of there's a song called Killer.

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Speaker 12: I felt that was very her embracing her in a

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Speaker 12: prince and it's not just in the vocals, but like

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Speaker 12: the accompanying guitar riffs and flourishes and then some of

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Speaker 12: those funky guitar slaps that he was quite renowned for.

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Speaker 12: So whoever's doing the guitar work on some of her

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Speaker 12: tracks is is very clever, and they're just those catchy

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Speaker 12: little riffs that bring you in and very prince escus.

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Speaker 12: So you'll, I mean, you'll hear it yourself when you

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Speaker 12: go through the whole album. And then a few disco

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Speaker 12: rhythms Gwen Stefani kind of you know, like my shit,

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Speaker 12: there's Banana's the kind of song this is a little

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Speaker 12: bit of that sort of stuff as well. So maybe

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Speaker 12: that's just that whole fusion of what pop and sassy

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Speaker 12: queens is all about.

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Speaker 5: Right here.

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Speaker 2: I love it. So what do you make of this

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Speaker 2: concept of recession pop? Have you heard about this?

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Speaker 8: Oh?

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Speaker 12: Okay, so this is like going back but bringing it forward.

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Speaker 2: Well, it's like when when you have tricky economic times.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, so like to thousand and eight was when

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Speaker 2: The Fame was released, and now Mayhem have, but she's

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Speaker 2: kind of got these really poppy, vintage Gaga sounds coming

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Speaker 2: out at the same time that you have really tricky

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Speaker 2: economic time. So the theory goes that maybe like tough

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Speaker 2: times bring out the poppiest and Gaga.

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Speaker 12: And maybe they do. She's gone back to like the

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Speaker 12: grunge bar where she originally started writings. Yeah, she's gone

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Speaker 12: back to those basic routes. That's simple. There's nothing like yeah,

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Speaker 12: okay recession pop alright, that's the thing.

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Speaker 2: It's very deep, and that's what we do on Saturday morning.

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Speaker 2: We look at this kind of yeah exactly, So I mean, you.

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Speaker 12: Know, another coffee for that one.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Look, I.

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Speaker 12: I really I've loved this album. I feel really in

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Speaker 12: his eyes and excited by it. And maybe that's it.

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Speaker 12: Right through a recession, you need something to look too

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Speaker 12: that makes you feel like you're having a great time

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Speaker 12: and now you can spend your whole weekends making up

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Speaker 12: your own lyrics to Ebria Debora.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, what do you give it? By Lady Gaga? Right,

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Speaker 2: a couple of mons we played, does they want to

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Speaker 2: close out the show this morning? Very good? Thank you

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Speaker 2: so much. As Stale Clifford is our music reviewer more

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Speaker 2: afternoon with weekends Sport. We're going to leave you with

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Speaker 2: Lady Gaga. Her new album is may him. The song

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Speaker 2: is disease and I'll see you next week.

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Speaker 15: Baby like.

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Speaker 18: Personally in time to be to.

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Speaker 15: You.

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Speaker 18: See you are so tortured when you sleep all your Elouise,

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Speaker 18: you'll leave out Louis.

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Speaker 15: My god.

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Speaker 18: Ramon will be crazy like it wasn't a sound.

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Speaker 12: I could be an.

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Speaker 15: Added do.

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Speaker 16: You like it.

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Speaker 8: Wasn't a time?

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Speaker 18: I could be an added dot.

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Speaker 2: Nice please.

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Speaker 18: Creak, I don't skin. Can't you disease? If you was senor,

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Speaker 18: I could make you.

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Speaker 3: Bringing down like what you three that's all that you

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