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Speaker 1: Hosking Breakfast with the land Rover Discovery never stop discovering news,

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Speaker 1: Tom said, Ben.

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Speaker 2: Welcomes to day. The odds have and go to bay

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Speaker 2: now the charges are getting banned. Good news from our

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Speaker 2: gaming sector. Eighty percent pay rises for members of government boards.

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Speaker 2: That's a gig. Joel shed Ball of La be back

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Speaker 2: for a catch up the way Keathan Field and France

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Speaker 2: Rod Little does.

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Speaker 3: The news that is the news in Hosking.

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Speaker 2: This seven past six. Welcome to Tuesday now, although it

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Speaker 2: is a mess of a moving feast, let me ask

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Speaker 2: you this question this morning. The latest Trump utterings, which

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Speaker 2: you will have missed because you're only just getting up,

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Speaker 2: came from his chair at Turnbury, is that the global

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Speaker 2: mark for teriffs is going to be fifteen to twenty percent.

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Speaker 2: Why because, as he said, you can't do two hundred deals,

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Speaker 2: which of course is true. A lot of people actually

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Speaker 2: said that when he said he was going to do

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Speaker 2: a couple of hundred deals a couple of months ago.

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Speaker 2: So far he's done hardly any of course, the EU yesterday,

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Speaker 2: the UK, Indonesia, the Philippines, India seems to be gebbing

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Speaker 2: and flying. You will note there is no real detail

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Speaker 2: around any of it. It just seems to have been

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Speaker 2: a series of threats and deadlines that constantly moves depending

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Speaker 2: on moot. Now here's the important part of this for

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Speaker 2: this country. I have asked you may have noted the

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Speaker 2: Prime Minister on a number of occasions as to whether

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Speaker 2: we are bothered by any of this and whether we

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Speaker 2: will need to actually deal with the Americans as opposed

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Speaker 2: to simply accepting their number as a fatal complain. Luxon

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Speaker 2: has been consistent in saying, one, we might might be

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Speaker 2: able to trade our way through it. In other words,

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Speaker 2: demand for things like meat and key, we fruit possibly

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Speaker 2: wine is so strong and our quality is so high

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Speaker 2: people will pay the extra at retail level in America.

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Speaker 2: And two, we simply don't want to be worse off

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Speaker 2: than anyone else. Well, so far, so fair, except as

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Speaker 2: of this morning, suddenly the rest of the world I

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Speaker 2: EUS potentially faces twenty percent. Twenty percent if that's where

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Speaker 2: they land, makes us worse off than others. Others have

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Speaker 2: as low as fifteen, some have nineteen, both a lower

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Speaker 2: than twenty. So the critical question, if twenty, is it

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Speaker 2: what are we going to do? You would hope we

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Speaker 2: have a planned You would hope we have a heads up.

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Speaker 2: None of them us as news. Do we adjust trade

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Speaker 2: to other countries? Are we still confident that twenty percent

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Speaker 2: on beef can be passed on? I mean, given as

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Speaker 2: good as we are, there's a big difference at the

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Speaker 2: butcher's in New York between twenty and ten. This whole

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Speaker 2: thing has moved fairly dramatically in the space of a day,

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Speaker 2: from it ain't the end of the world to a

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Speaker 2: material outcome where we, compared to others, are now losers.

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Speaker 2: So what's the plan?

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Speaker 3: Why news of the world in ninety seconds.

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Speaker 2: Speaking of which we return to the chairs at a

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Speaker 2: mild and bluster return. Bring in a Scottish summer where

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Speaker 2: today we've adjusted the timeframe as well for Putin to

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Speaker 2: sort out the war.

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Speaker 4: So you have seven thousand Russian and Ukrainian soldiers dying

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Speaker 4: every single week for no reason whatsoever. So you would think,

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Speaker 4: based on common says, you would think you'd.

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Speaker 5: Want to make a do them.

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Speaker 1: We'll find out.

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Speaker 2: The other wall featured given n Yah who tried it

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Speaker 2: on with a bit of bs, there is no starvation

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Speaker 2: in Gaza.

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Speaker 6: We enable humanitariana throughout the duration of the war to

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Speaker 6: enter Gaza.

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Speaker 2: Otherwise there would be no guzzens h. Even Trump wasn't

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Speaker 4: But we're going to be getting some construct for we

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Speaker 4: can save a lot of people. I mean, some of

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Speaker 4: those kids are that's real starvation stuff. I see it,

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Speaker 4: and you can't fake that.

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Speaker 2: So we're going to be even more involved, and the

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Speaker 2: doctors certainly won't.

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Speaker 7: The primary responsibility lies with the Israeli government, but also

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Speaker 7: with the international community to put an end to a

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Speaker 7: crime that continues to claim victims.

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Speaker 2: As regards trying, Trump, as I mentioned, talked to US

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Speaker 2: fifteen to twenty to the rest of the world. The

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Speaker 2: EU has fifteen, but we're still short. As I mentioned

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Speaker 2: also on detail that might prove to be an.

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Speaker 8: Issue, the UPEN Commission needs to form member states of

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Speaker 8: the details because very importantly they need to get member

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Speaker 8: states support. We understand that tomorrow morning the UPIEN Commission

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Speaker 8: will debrieve the eombassadors of the specific details.

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Speaker 2: The thlu Dabaski and the Euros willners. The heroes arrived

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Speaker 2: home to be greeted by the devoted.

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Speaker 9: It's amazing once let alone twice.

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Speaker 10: So yeah, it's great.

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Speaker 9: It's a great opportunity, great, a great time for women.

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Speaker 11: I couldn't not be I was gardening read about it

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Speaker 11: and thought, that's it.

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Speaker 3: Drove here like a loving.

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Speaker 2: Drove here like a louvering. Finally, more moderation from the French.

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Speaker 2: This morning, La sebe Lad de Lon La sebe Lad

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Speaker 2: de Lon has announced they will be handing out instant

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Speaker 2: fines of two hundred ninety dollars if you walk around

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Speaker 2: town half naked. The man says, the finders for walking

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Speaker 2: around topless or in your swimsuit anywhere other than the beach.

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Speaker 2: The French didn have to think about this. They followed

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Speaker 2: places like Akachant and Lugwarmer, who run finds for scantily

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Speaker 2: dressed folk away from the beach. Now that has news

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Speaker 2: of the world in modesty and the send superb French

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Speaker 2: pronouncing Elsin in ninety Russia up on the deadline. So

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Speaker 2: it's gone from fifty to twelve or fourteen or teen

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Speaker 2: or whatever he's come up with. But where he has

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Speaker 2: been successful, by the way, is this Thailand Cambodia thing.

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Speaker 2: Not that we promote war obviously, but this one only

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Speaker 2: lasted five days until he rang them up the other day.

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Speaker 2: The head of tile and the head of combader, and

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Speaker 2: you say get it together or else there's no trade

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Speaker 2: deal and as of overnight, immediate and unconditional ceasefire. So

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Speaker 2: that's a win. Twelve past six.

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Speaker 12: They'd be.

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Speaker 2: Rod a little in a couple of hours, but I'll

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Speaker 2: tell you what. The Euros was a smash it on

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Speaker 2: the television twelve point two million people. Is that a lot?

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Speaker 2: You bet it is. It's the most watched television event

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Speaker 2: of the year in Britain fifty nine share, fifty nine

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Speaker 2: percent of all people watching television. We're watching the football

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Speaker 2: fifteen pasts J and my Wilth. Oh, my lord, looking,

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Speaker 2: we've found back in the country for a fleeting visitor.

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Speaker 2: Nice of you to return home, Andrew Keller her good

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Speaker 2: morning morning.

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Speaker 3: Might have to be back.

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Speaker 9: But what have you done to the weather?

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Speaker 2: Well, the weather while you're away. Funnily enough, we experienced

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Speaker 2: seven days of clear blue sky and sunshine. Tell me

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Speaker 2: what the ViBe's like when you're dealing with a currency

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Speaker 9: Your it's not great.

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Speaker 11: It's not great, although I think it's very cheap in

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Speaker 11: parts of Europe. But you get hit pretty hard once

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Speaker 11: you hit. Once you hit London, you don't go out

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Speaker 11: to dinner too often if you're in London.

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Speaker 2: Everybody sees London to heaneously expensive. Talk to me about

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Speaker 2: this trade deal the US the year. I mean, we

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Speaker 2: don't have detail, do we No.

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Speaker 11: I really have picked the week to come back night,

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Speaker 11: because there's a heck of a lot that could shift

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Speaker 11: the momentum this week. I think yesterday morning you spoke

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Speaker 11: the EU. I hesitate to call it a deal just yet,

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Speaker 11: because it looks like detail is still being sorted out.

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Speaker 11: I think the stillness around wine, and remember that the

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Speaker 11: US is the largest destination for European wine. But during

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Speaker 11: our trading day yesterday, the US futures did rally, so

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Speaker 11: they reacted positively, but overnight we haven't sort of seen

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Speaker 11: P five hundred Nastak they're both pretty much flat, and

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Speaker 11: European markets were a touch lower overnight as well. Hey, Mike,

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Speaker 11: that we don't have a trade deal yet. It does

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Speaker 11: very much look like fifteen twenty is the new ten,

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Speaker 11: doesn't it, And so we wait there with interest Because

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Speaker 11: nine billion dollars worth of exports ten percent tariff on

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Speaker 11: that was a nine hundred million sort of problem. At

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Speaker 11: twenty percent is a one point eight billion dollar problem

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Speaker 11: is somewhat different, isn't it. But anyway, look back to

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Speaker 11: the US market reaction. I've had a lovely couple of

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Speaker 11: investors will be pretty happy because we keep seeing US

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Speaker 11: kind of priced for perfection, not inconceivable that the further

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Speaker 11: highs from here will be pretty hard for it this week.

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Speaker 11: And yet just so much going on this week, Mike.

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Speaker 11: You've got these You've got some big companies reporting quarterly earnings,

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Speaker 11: meta platforms, which is Facebook, Microsoft, Amazon, Apple, old reporters

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Speaker 11: Federal Reserve as well, meeting this week. Market expectation the

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Speaker 11: But you've got this wonderful backdrop here of this slight

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Speaker 11: is the PCE number that Prince will give us a

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Speaker 11: barometer of the current level of price pressure. And a

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Speaker 11: whole bunch of job data culminating in the Biggie, which

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Speaker 11: also interesting, Microsoft come back to look the options market

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Speaker 11: I'll think I might take a little bit of insurance here.

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Speaker 2: A US dollar got a bit of a boost.

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Speaker 11: It's been weak, and obviously we're still waiting for use

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Speaker 11: on the China trade dealer as well.

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Speaker 2: So everything's going on, Mike, It is a busy old

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Speaker 2: time job markets here.

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Speaker 11: What do we know, Well, look, in early in early August,

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Speaker 11: we get the big labor market data done. That's the

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Speaker 11: household laborfore survey, Quarterly Employment Survey, unemployment rate, that's for

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Speaker 11: the second quarter. But we get these high frequency signals

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Speaker 11: along the line, and that's the monthly employment indicators.

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Speaker 9: Filled jobs.

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Speaker 11: Actual data from the revenue well fill jobs all industries

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Speaker 11: rose zero point one percent in Junes, which I would

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Speaker 11: call a flicker above zero. The problem is the trend

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Speaker 11: at the moment is for subsequent revisions to bring that

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Speaker 11: their primary industries still doing better zero p nine percent,

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Speaker 11: gain their goods industries lower by zero point two.

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Speaker 2: Percent of five.

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Speaker 11: Widen the lens out and look at the year on

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Speaker 11: year data construction industry. Compare that to June twenty twenty four,

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Speaker 11: down six percent over twelve thousand fewer jobs and in

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Speaker 11: total twenty seven thousand, eight hundred and fifty fewer jobs

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Speaker 11: so year in a year one point two percent. Pretty

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Speaker 11: much the picture is of a very soft jobs market.

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Speaker 11: That June tick up, as I said, we'll probably get

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Speaker 11: revised lower May. Whilst May it was up zero point

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Speaker 2: Mike's scrapping the payWave charges wrong. Retailers were just up

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Speaker 2: fashioned does that sound? Sam Worthington, Zoe Saldana, Sigourney Weaver,

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Speaker 2: on the Mike Hosking Breakfast, and then we'll talk gaming.

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Speaker 1: A gender and talking the big issues the mic hosting

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Speaker 1: Breakfast with Bailey's real estate altogether better across residential, commercial

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Speaker 3: Togs Head been like.

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Speaker 2: The removal of fees that electronic transactions could push us

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Speaker 2: so why would you use cash. Or if they do

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Speaker 2: does it? It's now higher Mike, This is the point.

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Speaker 2: I'm more with Catherine shortly means I'm back here. More

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Speaker 2: good news from our video game sector. Grinding Year Games.

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Speaker 2: They reported one hundred and five million dollars worth of

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Speaker 2: the ones behind Path of Exile if you don't play games?

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Speaker 2: Jonathan Rodgers as the managing director and is with us,

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Speaker 2: Jonathan morning.

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Speaker 15: To you, Hey, good morning.

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Speaker 2: Now you're the one with ten Cent involved, don't you.

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Speaker 2: They came in crowdfunded, then ten Cent came to town.

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Speaker 15: Yeah, so they're ten Cent bought the company when would

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Speaker 2: Are things booming? Is life good? Absolutely?

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Speaker 6: So?

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Speaker 2: I was thinking about this this morning and that often

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Speaker 15: Yeah, you absolutely can be anywhere. And that's honestly one

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Speaker 15: we're probably doing better than average. Actually why well, it

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Speaker 2: And the people hooked in that sense they once you've

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Speaker 15: Well, I mean, the people who play a game like ours,

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Speaker 2: What do you reckon the path is if I ringing

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Speaker 2: Fantastic, We'll stay in touch, appreciating congratulations, Jonathan Rodgers, Managing

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Speaker 2: director of Grinding Gear Games, nineteen minutes away from seven.

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Speaker 2: Posky's deposed against that we got the job numbers yesterday

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Speaker 2: for the past year. This is from stats, as opposed

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Speaker 2: that we did the job ads on this program this

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Speaker 2: time yesterday. But the stats came out with the June

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Speaker 2: year a number of jobs down. Of course Andrew alluded

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Speaker 2: to it briefly, twelve one hundred and sixty nine job

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Speaker 2: has been lost in construction. It's a hell of a

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Speaker 2: lot of jobs, hell of a lot of lives. So

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Speaker 2: manufacturing five eighty eight hundred and fifty jobs gone, Scientific

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Speaker 2: technical services over five thousand jobs gone, Admin support services

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Speaker 2: forty eight hundred jobs. Education, training and primary though adding

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Speaker 2: jobs fifteen to nineteen year olds, ten percent of jobs

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Speaker 2: have gone. Auckland's miserable, Wellington's miserable, Canterbury's on the up.

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Speaker 2: So it's the same old story until that turns around.

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Speaker 2: It's always the last thing. Jobs are always the last

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Speaker 2: thing in the economic conundrum. Until that turns round, We're

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Speaker 2: going to stay in a funk. Eighteen to two.

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Speaker 1: The Mic Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered

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Speaker 2: ZIPP but here's the hope as regards the job, here's

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Speaker 2: the hope. See the BENS Chief economist Mike Jones yesterday

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Speaker 2: was still saying they're still seemingly running this line. You'd

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Speaker 2: like to hope they know more than we do. Because

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Speaker 2: they're still running the line. The underlying drivers of the

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Speaker 2: recovery remain in place and should reassert themselves in coming quarters.

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Speaker 2: Fingers Cross six forty.

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Speaker 16: Five International correspondence with ends and Eye Insurance.

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Speaker 3: Peace of mind for New Zealand business right.

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Speaker 2: The Gatherine Piel Very good morning to you. Good morning mane.

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Speaker 2: Now this I mean, do you actually have a deal,

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Speaker 2: Do you know what's in the deal? Could you site

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Speaker 2: me off all the numbers? And does anyone know.

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Speaker 10: They do kind of know.

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Speaker 17: I think the top line for those who are talking

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Speaker 17: up the deal is saying that the tariff from most

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Speaker 17: EU goods will now be fifteen percent as opposed to

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Speaker 17: what was meant to be thirty percent comeess Friday. Now,

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Speaker 17: then you start talking to people and you get some

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Speaker 17: people who say, well, the EU is the world's largest

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Speaker 17: exporter of goods. It was in a position to promote

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Speaker 17: trade based on law, based on the stable business climate,

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Speaker 17: or market confidence. And then you hear the EU spokesman

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Speaker 17: just a couple of hours ago say look, this was

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Speaker 17: the best deal we could get.

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Speaker 1: This is great.

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Speaker 17: Then you took people who say, well, you know that

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Speaker 17: Luke warm bit of a fiasco, but it adverts a

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Speaker 17: trade war. And there's others who are now saying this

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Speaker 17: was nothing short of humiliation by the EU. It was

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Speaker 17: cow tewing to Trump failed to use leverage the EU had,

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Speaker 17: And I think it comes down to the French Prime

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Speaker 17: minister who said it was a dark day for the EU.

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Speaker 17: It was a day when the EU resigned itself to submission.

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Speaker 2: Did you maybe I missed it or wasn't paying enough attention?

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Speaker 2: But vonderlyin turns up at Turnbury. Well apparently it's fifty

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Speaker 2: to fifty according to Trump, we don't know what's going

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Speaker 2: to happen. Ten minutes later, just comes out deals done.

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Speaker 2: What the hell happened there?

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Speaker 17: You know, some of us, like you, Mike, remember the

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Speaker 17: New ZEALANDERU Free Trade Agreement, that first round of talks

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Speaker 17: July twenty eighteen, final agreement signed July twenty twenty three.

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Speaker 17: Trade deals are not done in five minutes after Trump

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Speaker 17: has had a round.

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Speaker 2: Of golf exactly. This is not how it works.

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Speaker 17: So we go back to that other old old saying

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Speaker 17: the devil will be in the details. What is really

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Speaker 17: in the deals? Yeah, okay, it's enough to give Trump

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Speaker 17: a victory lap.

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Speaker 9: So he did a deal.

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Speaker 17: This is great. Will it still be a deal in

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Speaker 17: two weeks time? Will it be worth anything? No one

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Speaker 17: really knows. Or is it just a straight out.

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Speaker 2: Booby trap for European unity? Because this is the next

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Speaker 2: thing we must remember. There are twenty seven nations involved.

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Speaker 2: They've all got to agree what chance and and the

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Speaker 2: threat against them not agreeing is what just and all

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Speaker 2: out terror for.

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Speaker 17: And then it's an all out war within the EU.

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Speaker 17: I mean we've got, you know, for example, just in

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Speaker 17: the last couple of minutes, a Hungary who's no fan

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Speaker 17: of Vonderlyon saying that she just rolled over gave Trump

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Speaker 17: what she want. The nickname around town is Vonderlyon now

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Speaker 17: be known as Vonderaline, lying down, giving way. I mean,

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Speaker 17: let's look back at the EU mic Like everything, the

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Speaker 17: premium is on unity, and that once that unity disappears,

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Speaker 17: Europe is very weak.

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Speaker 2: What are they going to do in bord Army. It's

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Speaker 2: not even August yet, and you're still dealing with the

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Speaker 2: summer and the grapes of forming and all that sort

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Speaker 2: of stuff. But the US is twenty percent of the

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Speaker 2: bordeaux market. They must be beside themselves, mustn't they?

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Speaker 17: They are absolutely beside himself. I mean they've already got

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Speaker 17: to drop of around twenty percent on their annual exports.

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Speaker 17: I mean, this is a huge market, seven hundred and

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Speaker 17: fifty million New Zealand dollars worth each year and they

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Speaker 17: still don't know what the tariffs are going to be now,

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Speaker 17: as any New Zealand export knows, you put your product

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Speaker 17: on a ship, off it goes, and you just hope

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Speaker 17: that the tariffs don't change, betraying the time it leaves

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Speaker 17: your portal. When it gets to, for example, the US,

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Speaker 17: they're just completely beside themselves.

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Speaker 2: Mic.

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Speaker 17: I mean, think back March, Trump said it would be

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Speaker 17: a two hundred percent tariff on EU wines and spirits

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Speaker 17: because they were angry about the tax on US. Berman

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Speaker 17: and April is that it was twenty percent, May that

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Speaker 17: it was ten percent, and it was back to fifteen percent.

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Speaker 17: But all these guys are saying is we've got wine.

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Speaker 2: We want to.

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Speaker 17: Get it out there, get it onto the market. Some

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Speaker 17: of the smarter merchants are saying that it's just going

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Speaker 17: to have to change the whole way they do business,

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Speaker 17: no longer base their strategy on a single or dual

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Speaker 17: country style.

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Speaker 2: They are interesting times. Just quickly. That Macron declaration the

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Speaker 2: other day that he's going to wander off to the

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Speaker 2: US later u En later this year, and the clear

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Speaker 2: Palestina state is that applied what he thought would be

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Speaker 2: the appropriate pressure for other leaders in Europe. Has it

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Speaker 2: fallen a bit flat?

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Speaker 17: No, it's about right. It's about right. When you know

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Speaker 17: the thing about Manual Macron, he doesn't make announcements off

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Speaker 17: the cuff. He does check on the basis before he

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Speaker 17: does it. It's been in the works for a couple

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Speaker 17: of months. He held it off earlier this year in April.

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Speaker 17: You know, this is a man who just does not

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Speaker 17: make that sort of announcement without having checked around with

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Speaker 17: the allies.

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Speaker 2: As you're Catherine, Nice to talk to you, Catherine Field

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Speaker 2: in France. You know, I was reading about Federated farmers

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Speaker 2: over the week. He said, we should be proud to

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Speaker 2: have butter in this country. A premium product, and it

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Speaker 2: suddenly occurred to me. And you know, the French don't

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Speaker 2: complain about Chateau Lafitte. Chateau Lafitte is or any of

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Speaker 2: the great Bordeaux. Chateau Lafitte is a couple of thousand

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Speaker 2: dollars a bottle. Ninety nine point nine nine nine nine

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Speaker 2: nine percent of us, including the French, counterfort a bottle

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Speaker 2: of chadow lafeet. But they're not sitting there going, oh,

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Speaker 2: it's to expensive. Someone should pay for that. Nine minutes

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Speaker 2: away from seven.

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Speaker 1: The Makehoskill breakfast with the land Rover Discovery News tog sad.

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Speaker 2: Be for fear of reigniting it. I knew you'd say

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Speaker 2: the Chateau Lafitte isn't a staple, Mike, neither's butter. Work

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Speaker 2: it out. Why fixate on butter? Want to fixate on milk.

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Speaker 2: Milk's more staple, though I would have thought than butters.

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Speaker 2: But we didn't fixate on that. By the way, the

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Speaker 2: Katari plane, we've forgotten about that. You know Air Force

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Speaker 2: one little you know the Qataris gave them a plane Trump,

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Speaker 2: a plane unconditional. We got the details of the deal

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Speaker 2: signed by Higseth and the Qatar Deputy Prime Minister and

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Speaker 2: Minister of State for Defense Affairs fight quote unquote bona

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Speaker 2: fide gift to the Defense Department. This donation has made

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Speaker 2: in good faith, in the spirit of cooperation, a mutual

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Speaker 2: support between the parties. Nothing in the CMU or is,

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Speaker 2: or shall be interpreted or construed as an offer, promise,

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Speaker 2: or acceptance of any form of bribery, under your influence

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Speaker 2: or corrupt practice.

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Speaker 9: It just literally, you get a plane. You get a plane.

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Speaker 2: How it works. By the way, if you're just thinking

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Speaker 2: of leaving for Australia to live because you hate this

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Speaker 2: place now in New South Wales lost more than forty

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Speaker 2: five thousand jobs in two months. I keep telling you

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Speaker 2: Australia is not the green grass you think it is.

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Speaker 2: New South Wales. That's not Australia. It's just one state

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Speaker 2: within Australia has lost more than forty five thousand jobs

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Speaker 2: in the past two months. The unemployment rate in that

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Speaker 2: part of the world's above two hundred thousand for the

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Speaker 2: first time in age is Paramatta unemployment rates five point seven.

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Speaker 2: It's now above five percent. Unemployment rate in much of

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Speaker 2: Western Sydney. Blacktown's fire point four Southwestern suburbs, fire point

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Speaker 2: four inner Southwestern suburbs. Five unemployments risen in fourteen to

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Speaker 2: the fifteen major statistical districts in the Greater Sydney area.

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Speaker 2: So Milk and Honey, I don't think so. Five away

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Speaker 2: from seven.

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Speaker 3: All the inns are the outs.

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Speaker 1: It's the fizz with business tiber take your business productivity

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Speaker 1: to the next level.

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Speaker 2: As Andrew alluded to, a big, big, big week in

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Speaker 2: the States and their economy, and their economy affects all economies.

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Speaker 2: Of course, So the data is going to flow like

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Speaker 2: an atmospheric river. See what I did. Then the data

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Speaker 2: is going to flow like an atmospheric river.

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Speaker 9: So it may or may not.

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Speaker 2: We might have to issue an orange warning jobs report.

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Speaker 2: Now we got that coming inflation, we've got consumer confidence,

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Speaker 2: We've got corporate earnings. They're getting their Q two GDP number.

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Speaker 2: They think the Q two might have improved. Now that's

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Speaker 2: going to be interesting because of course they'll go see

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Speaker 2: teld you. Jerome is going to make a decision as

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Speaker 2: to whether to cut or hold their rates. And then

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Speaker 2: we got Friday, which is Saturday our time, the tariff

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Speaker 2: deadlines up. Well, that may or may not be a deadline.

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Speaker 2: Of course, the big names in tech, they're releasing their earnings.

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Speaker 2: That looks good. Eighty percent of the s and P

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Speaker 2: five hundred of beatetn their estimates. Consumer confidence was at

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Speaker 2: its lowest level since the pandemic when Trump F hast

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Speaker 2: announced his tariffs. So we'll see where all of that goes.

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Speaker 2: The market looks good. Oil's coming back. They're drilling, baby drilling.

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Speaker 2: Their companies are doing that. One of the concerns was

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Speaker 2: I mentioned the other day. With these results, which of

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Speaker 2: course are all retrospective. Business results are all retrospected, one

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Speaker 2: of the it might mask what is coming with tariffs.

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Speaker 2: There is still a belief that tariffs are not good

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Speaker 2: for the economy in general, so what we might be

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Speaker 2: seeing with these numbers may well mask. But then the

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Speaker 2: usual debate will ensue. Now tap and go, we ended

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Speaker 2: this or not we like this, or we're just going

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Speaker 2: to complain some more about it. We'll look at who's

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Speaker 2: who's that effect More shortly.

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Speaker 14: For.

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Speaker 3: News togs had been.

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Speaker 2: Seven past seven we've got some banks around the credit

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Speaker 2: card fee news. The band is coming by main next year.

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Speaker 2: Banks will still charge retailers, although the Commas Commission had

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Speaker 2: some ideas around that. So the concern is can a

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Speaker 2: retailer soak up the different Sam McKinnon's the head of

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Speaker 2: advocacy at the Hospitality in New Zealand, and it's whether Sam,

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Speaker 2: morning to you.

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Speaker 5: Good morning mate.

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Speaker 2: What's the bill for the average retailer? You got the

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Speaker 2: idea of roughly run numbers.

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Speaker 5: Well, like I think it sits between one and two percent,

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Speaker 5: so or around that sort of two percent mark. So

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Speaker 5: obviously that that's a bit different depending on which business

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Speaker 5: you are in payments you're accepting.

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Speaker 2: What's the reaction? But I've been disappointed at the level

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Speaker 2: of banks. I mean, I would have thought this is

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Speaker 2: a good news story, isn't it.

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Speaker 5: Look I think we're supportive of the intent behind the

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Speaker 5: proposed being, but you as a solution doesn't get to

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Speaker 5: the core of the issue, which is the fees that

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Speaker 5: banks are charging to accept payment.

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Speaker 2: Does the Commons Commission though, and their ruling or their

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Speaker 2: decision make a difference on that front.

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Speaker 5: The reduction and interchange fees is helpful, but we don't

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Speaker 5: have any transparency around how those savings will be shared

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Speaker 5: or what the what the flow on will be for

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Speaker 5: businesses to be able to actually pass those costs on

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Speaker 5: to the construy.

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Speaker 2: But once you get transparency, it might be the Commerce

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Speaker 2: Commission have done a good thing.

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Speaker 5: Possibly, yeah, possibly, but it's part of part of the

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Speaker 5: overall system in terms of what we charge for, in

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Speaker 5: terms of what payment fees we're charged as merchants, and

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Speaker 5: so it kind of deals with part of the problem,

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Speaker 5: but not the whole problem.

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Speaker 2: What should they have done if you've got your magic

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Speaker 2: wand and you're running the place.

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Speaker 5: Look, I mean, I think for us, it's about thinking

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Speaker 5: about what are some substantive changes that can be made

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Speaker 5: to reduce costs for merchants and consumers. So just just

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Speaker 5: by passing the ban on to the business and the

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Speaker 5: point of sale, I think that that just means that

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Speaker 5: we have to shuffle where our costs are felt across

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Speaker 5: the business. So we're currently just passing those costs on.

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Speaker 5: I think, you know, noting that the Minister's release talked

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Speaker 5: about there is some overcharge happening, there's still one hundre

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Speaker 5: a million of genuine costs that's being passed on to

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Speaker 5: the consumer, and that business has been businesses are being

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Speaker 5: left to absorb those feats.

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Speaker 2: How much of it sens with the consumer because you

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Speaker 2: don't have to pay this, you don't have to tap and.

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Speaker 5: Go well exactly, and I think that that's you know,

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Speaker 5: these changes just pass on some of the penalized people

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Speaker 5: who choose to insert their card when they're paying or

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Speaker 5: pay with cash, because the cost will be reflected in

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Speaker 5: the price of the goods rather than that the payment.

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Speaker 5: So yeah, I mean it's up to the up to

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Speaker 5: the customer to choose that they can still choose to

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Speaker 5: pay in ways that mean that they don't pay fees.

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Speaker 2: Checking and egg though, isn't it. I mean the line

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Speaker 2: of profitability. I mean if you put the if you

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Speaker 2: if you pass the charges on, you do run the

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Speaker 2: risk that people go, you know what, I'm not paying it,

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Speaker 2: therefore your business stuff isn't run around we go.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I mean there's there's always that risk. I

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Speaker 5: guess for for hospitality, we've got famously type margins and

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Speaker 5: so we've kind of got that balancing act to manage

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Speaker 5: cash flow and manage revenue. In the current environment, and

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Speaker 5: so I guess from ours that it's a little bit

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Speaker 5: in a government that calls itself pro business as fundamentally

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Speaker 5: at in costs for a business without dealing with the

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Speaker 5: core issue.

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Speaker 2: All right, so IM appreciate it very much. Sam McKinnon

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Speaker 2: who's the head of advocacy at Hospitality in musical and

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Speaker 2: don't worry Scott Simpson who's the Comments and Consumer Fears minister,

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Speaker 2: he's the man behind it is with us in about

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Speaker 2: twenty minutes time, ten minutes past seven as give you money.

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Speaker 2: There's a claim the government kept it a bit on

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Speaker 2: the old d LO. But the Crown boards are in

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Speaker 2: for some very large fee increases, some of them up

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Speaker 2: to eighty percent. So chairs of some of the big

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Speaker 2: boards are going to be earning eventually about one hundred

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Speaker 2: and sixty thousand dollars a year. Judith Collins, public Services Minister,

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Speaker 2: is of course with us. Judith, morning to you.

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Speaker 5: I'll good morning now.

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Speaker 2: There is logic in us watching the prime ministers of

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Speaker 2: post Cab yesterday, there is logic it got way. How

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Speaker 2: did it all get out so out of line that

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Speaker 2: we need this sort of readjustment.

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Speaker 10: Oh, there wasn't any increase. So it's about the last decade,

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Speaker 10: apart from a ten percent increase the previous government to

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Speaker 10: in twenty two twenty tween two. And I think the

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Speaker 10: problem is that government's basically lost the bottle to actually

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Speaker 10: say we can't have our chair people of these organizations

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Speaker 10: that many cases are responsible for hundreds of millions or

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Speaker 10: thousands of millions of dollars of assets being the poorest

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Speaker 10: people paid people in the room. Because that's basically what's

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Speaker 10: been happening. And if we want to get good people

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Speaker 10: to come and help us to reform the public service

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Speaker 10: and to if you get these crowny deities really going

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Speaker 10: and coming as they should have been, we.

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Speaker 12: Are going to have to pay for that.

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Speaker 10: And so this is not a right across the board increase.

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Speaker 10: It's saying these are the free ranges so that we can,

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Speaker 10: for instance, you know, from of these crowny entities at

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Speaker 10: the moment, the chairperson of that board we paid forty

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Speaker 10: thousand dollars. If you're a busy lawyer or a busy accountant,

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Speaker 10: or you're a busy business person, you're sitting there thinking

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Speaker 10: why the hell would I do that? Take all the

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Speaker 10: political risks, take all their hits for forty thousand dollars.

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Speaker 10: And by the way, I'm not doing my own business

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Speaker 10: in that time. And if you're in Wellington and you're otherwise,

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Speaker 10: you live in Auckland, your workers in Wellington, that's a

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Speaker 10: whole day, two days, three days maybe taken up on it,

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Speaker 10: and why would you do it. So in those cases,

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Speaker 10: like the profit sector, equivalents about seventy thousand for those

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Speaker 10: sorts of same jobs. And you know, we can't keep

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Speaker 10: putting people into jobs that.

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Speaker 12: They're not qualified for.

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Speaker 10: But also we can't just run us like some sort

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Speaker 10: of tin pot outfit, which is what I'm sorry to

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Speaker 10: say some of the previous government did.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I was going to say, I don't want to

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Speaker 2: be too unfair, but if you look at the health

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Speaker 2: in New Zealand, I mean there were some unusual people

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Speaker 2: on there that needed to be moved on.

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Speaker 10: Look, if you choose people on a merit, you're going

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Speaker 10: to get the right people for the job. And that

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Speaker 10: doesn't mean to say you go through a little box

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Speaker 10: and say can I tick off this number of ethnicities,

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Speaker 10: this number of genders, this number of whatever. You just

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Speaker 10: get the right people for the job, and those right

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Speaker 10: people the people who really know how to do this job.

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Speaker 10: And I've done this job the past before I came

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Speaker 10: into politics.

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Speaker 12: It's hard. They're not going to do it if.

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Speaker 10: They've frankly insulted and they're told their time stop worth anything.

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Speaker 2: Couldn't agree more. Put your ag hat on just really

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Speaker 2: quickly your opinion on the voting changes. How hardline are

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Speaker 2: you on that has the government in your ag view,

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Speaker 2: made a serious error or we can debate this well.

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Speaker 10: I've taken the position of not longly discussing these Section

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Speaker 10: seven reports, but I can say this, I am as

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Speaker 10: the Attorney General. I'm deptually bound by the rulings that

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Speaker 10: have already happened and the law as it has developed.

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Speaker 10: And given that the previous voting restriction on prisoners received

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Speaker 10: a Section seven report by the former Attorney General from Lason,

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Speaker 10: and there's been court cases since the including Supreme Court,

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Speaker 10: I am surbound by the law that there's not as

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Speaker 10: the law might be in the future. So it's it's

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Speaker 10: I just give my advice for government based on the

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Speaker 10: all wizards got it well.

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Speaker 2: So appreciate it. Judith Collins, the Attorney General and Public

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Speaker 2: Service Minister by the Way in New Zealand chairs on

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Speaker 2: two seventy, Fletcher Building chairs on three forty Health New

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Speaker 2: Zealand one twenty five. So you can still even the

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Speaker 2: Stiller gap. Fourteen past.

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Speaker 1: The Mike Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered

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Speaker 2: B Morning Mike. You using Judith logic, the same should

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Speaker 2: be applied to government CEOs. They should be paying market value.

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Speaker 2: I tend to agree, but they don't, and you get

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Speaker 2: the sort of people that you want. There's an altruism

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Speaker 2: line in there. And I'll come back to that in

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Speaker 2: just a couple of moments, because I know a couple

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Speaker 2: of people who volunteered their services, but there's an altruism

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Speaker 2: line in there that you're doing good for the community.

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Speaker 2: Blah blah blah. But you know, generally, if your pay peanuts,

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Speaker 2: the rest is. You know what the story is. Seventeen

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Speaker 2: past seven. Now we've got some bad behavior on the

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Speaker 2: sports field again, so all out all between parents and

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Speaker 2: students is during the Auckland grammar game against De La

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Speaker 2: Cell match was called off. Eight coppers were needed to

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Speaker 2: break the mess up. Kevin Partter's the form of spring block.

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Speaker 2: Of course, our current rugby seven's coach a King's College,

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Speaker 2: and he's, well, there's Kevin morning to you.

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Speaker 6: Good morning, Mike.

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Speaker 2: How often would you see this sort of stuff in

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Speaker 2: a season.

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Speaker 6: Well, if you're talking all out brawls and that, that's

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Speaker 6: obviously very isolated because media had picked that up a

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Speaker 6: heck of a lot.

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Speaker 10: But if you're talking.

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Speaker 6: About the intolerance and volatility of it, you'd see it

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Speaker 6: nearly every week.

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Speaker 2: Jeers, and is it getting better? Is there any sort

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Speaker 2: of overarching we're a bit over this kind of behavior

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Speaker 2: thing going on or not really?

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Speaker 6: Well, it's the exact opposite. I think there's people wanting

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Speaker 6: to get over it. But there's a few contributing factors

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Speaker 6: in my view, Mike. One is the poor old volunteers disappearing.

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Speaker 6: You know, the good referees that are about flipping seventy

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Speaker 6: years of age running around the field.

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Speaker 3: They're just not willing to put up with.

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Speaker 6: The good people have gone from it because of the

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Speaker 6: abuse and intolerance it goes on, and so that's, let

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Speaker 6: you know, sort of reduce the control factor around school sport.

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Speaker 2: Jeez. So when somebody yells out and abuse as a referee,

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Speaker 2: doesn't someone on the standlight like a normal person, go,

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Speaker 2: don't be a dick and shut up or something like that.

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Speaker 6: Oh yeah, and you're one hundred percent. But I mean

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Speaker 6: you have a look where we're living in a much

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Speaker 6: more intelligent and volatile, nearly an angry society. Look at

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Speaker 6: the amount of road rage, and that's increased as to

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Speaker 6: what we would have seen in the past. So you're

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Speaker 6: dead right that that can happen. But that invariably leads

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Speaker 6: to what you've just spoken about, of those reactions that

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Speaker 6: become mass and group orientated rather than just an individual.

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Speaker 2: Is it elite level only or not not at all?

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Speaker 6: I mean, that's the saddest thing you can go along.

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Speaker 6: And I'm not going to suggest that you can expect

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Speaker 6: it at elite level or at maybe first fifteen one

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Speaker 6: A stuff. But what you have got is people could

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Speaker 6: be playing a six A game and suddenly you've got

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Speaker 6: kids that have been under such pressure from the parents

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Speaker 6: are filming the game, and everything's the suggestion that they

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Speaker 6: are the meal ticket jee as this is my son's

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Speaker 6: future or my daughter's you know, career that's on the

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Speaker 6: line here, and it's so inaccurate. So I don't know,

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Speaker 6: I even look back that maybe maybe media have got

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Speaker 6: a little bit to play here. Look at the Lions

874
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Speaker 6: from the weekend. What's the biggest story to come out

875
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Speaker 6: that the rest got it wrong and we've got an

876
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Speaker 6: angry society we're going to see on the weekend.

877
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Speaker 13: That's just no different to the British Lions versus OZ.

878
00:40:22,680 --> 00:40:23,319
Speaker 5: You get what I mean.

879
00:40:23,360 --> 00:40:26,440
Speaker 6: There's a lot of championing of the negatives.

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Speaker 2: Idea Kevin nice to talk to you appreciate it. Kevin

881
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Speaker 2: part who's Rugby Simons coach at King's Mike. If those

882
00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:33,080
Speaker 2: board chairs are up for big pay increases, they should

883
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Speaker 2: also be made openly accountable with things go right well

884
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Speaker 2: they are. I gave the Health New Zealand example, the

885
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Speaker 2: lot of them went. They got booted out because they

886
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Speaker 2: weren't up to much. Come back to that. Seven twenty.

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913
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Speaker 2: asking right now if you want to get a bit

914
00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:06,600
Speaker 2: angsty about these voting changes, the one everyone seems to

915
00:42:06,640 --> 00:42:09,800
Speaker 2: have missed is the one about how it's been changed

916
00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:13,320
Speaker 2: because we're so hopeless. See, on the disenfranchised side of

917
00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:15,320
Speaker 2: the equation, I've got little of any time for it.

918
00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:17,320
Speaker 2: An elections held. I don't know if you realize this,

919
00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:20,719
Speaker 2: but an elections held every three years between the last

920
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Speaker 2: one and the next one. That's a lot of days,

921
00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:24,640
Speaker 2: and at some point you might want to stick your

922
00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:27,080
Speaker 2: name down to have another crack. The fact you can't

923
00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:29,840
Speaker 2: rock up on the day is only going to disenfranchise

924
00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:33,520
Speaker 2: you if you're a bit disorganized. Everyone loves a conspiracy theory,

925
00:42:33,560 --> 00:42:35,319
Speaker 2: so if you jumped on the old oh it's going

926
00:42:35,360 --> 00:42:37,600
Speaker 2: to favor the right. No it's not. But here's the

927
00:42:37,600 --> 00:42:40,759
Speaker 2: bigger question. Why can't you enroll on the day? You

928
00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:43,359
Speaker 2: know why? Because we can't cope? Why can't we cope

929
00:42:43,600 --> 00:42:47,759
Speaker 2: because we're a small island backwater with the technological mentality

930
00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:50,399
Speaker 2: to go with it. I asked Paul Goldsmith, the Justice Minister,

931
00:42:50,480 --> 00:42:52,440
Speaker 2: on the program last week why we aren't like the Germans.

932
00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:54,760
Speaker 2: The German elections have their results as the polls closed.

933
00:42:54,760 --> 00:42:57,879
Speaker 2: Watch the next time. It's fantastic. We don't, he said,

934
00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:02,239
Speaker 2: because they're efficient. Why aren't we efficient, I asked him.

935
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Speaker 2: You might have heard, he laughed, as well. He might.

936
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Speaker 2: Elections technologically, there are a thing time forgotten this country.

937
00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:11,280
Speaker 2: I mean, years back, we talked to phones and votes

938
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Speaker 2: and electronic registration. None of it's happened, none of it

939
00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:17,279
Speaker 2: ever will. We can't conduct a census properly. For God's sake,

940
00:43:17,560 --> 00:43:20,040
Speaker 2: we make a Mariah polling station where the CEO is

941
00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:23,520
Speaker 2: also a candidate. We still have rules being changed around

942
00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:26,719
Speaker 2: food and drink, despite the fact that got first raised

943
00:43:26,719 --> 00:43:29,600
Speaker 2: as an issue one hundred years ago when they called

944
00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:32,600
Speaker 2: it treating. We got mail votes at local body elections,

945
00:43:32,640 --> 00:43:35,120
Speaker 2: despite the fact no one uses mail, so the post

946
00:43:35,160 --> 00:43:39,200
Speaker 2: officers beside themselves. Our rules around political donations, they're constantly

947
00:43:39,239 --> 00:43:41,560
Speaker 2: being tinkered with. Elections just appear a bit hard for us.

948
00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:44,520
Speaker 2: It is true there are issues elsewhere, of course there are.

949
00:43:44,560 --> 00:43:46,680
Speaker 2: We don't seem to have waiting times many countries do.

950
00:43:47,120 --> 00:43:50,480
Speaker 2: We're corruption free, which is good. Participations high, that's good.

951
00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:52,640
Speaker 2: But the fact you can't execute a fairly simple and

952
00:43:52,719 --> 00:43:56,279
Speaker 2: logical idea like same day registration does remind you that

953
00:43:56,360 --> 00:43:58,680
Speaker 2: when it comes to moder day efficiency, it's not a

954
00:43:58,800 --> 00:44:02,800
Speaker 2: disenfranchising scandal that did us in. It's the gliding on

955
00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:06,040
Speaker 2: nature of how we run things asking I think the

956
00:44:06,080 --> 00:44:08,600
Speaker 2: discussion around what board directors and members get paid should

957
00:44:08,600 --> 00:44:10,520
Speaker 2: be extended to schools. The outcome of having people who

958
00:44:10,600 --> 00:44:12,480
Speaker 2: paid sixty bucks a meeting is directly linked to the

959
00:44:12,520 --> 00:44:14,840
Speaker 2: state of education. I think that's probably too too. The

960
00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:16,759
Speaker 2: altruistic thing. I won't name them that. I know a

961
00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:19,279
Speaker 2: bloke who rang the Prime Minister and he works these

962
00:44:19,360 --> 00:44:20,600
Speaker 2: days at a very high level in one of the

963
00:44:20,640 --> 00:44:24,839
Speaker 2: bigger state operations. He rang up his successful go rang up.

964
00:44:24,840 --> 00:44:26,319
Speaker 2: He said, look, I've got a day a week, how

965
00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:28,680
Speaker 2: can I help? And they put him in a an

966
00:44:28,920 --> 00:44:31,319
Speaker 2: influential position who's doing a very good job making changes.

967
00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:33,959
Speaker 2: So there's that sort of person don't need the money,

968
00:44:34,040 --> 00:44:36,439
Speaker 2: they're just wanting to help. But equally there's a level

969
00:44:36,440 --> 00:44:38,399
Speaker 2: of responsibility on the board that you want to go Mike.

970
00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:40,800
Speaker 2: The tap and go from the government is good. I

971
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Speaker 2: usually don't agree with extra cost of small businesses, but

972
00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:45,160
Speaker 2: the cost of a sconder a muffin needs to be

973
00:44:45,360 --> 00:44:48,080
Speaker 2: just that. Then the customer chooses to buy it or not.

974
00:44:48,760 --> 00:44:52,600
Speaker 2: That's not a bad point. Hey, guess who's back? Brook

975
00:44:52,680 --> 00:44:56,320
Speaker 2: gets back Brooke van Velden this morning, she's on to

976
00:44:56,400 --> 00:44:58,160
Speaker 2: the farms. Yesterday it was scaffolding. I don't think the

977
00:44:58,200 --> 00:45:00,320
Speaker 2: scaffolding went that well for it. They asked what she

978
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Speaker 2: was going to do around scaffolding. Let me tell you

979
00:45:02,239 --> 00:45:05,400
Speaker 2: how it works. I took a chair at my place

980
00:45:05,480 --> 00:45:07,120
Speaker 2: and put it on top of the table, and then

981
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Speaker 2: I stood on top of the chair to clean some lights,

982
00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:14,080
Speaker 2: and then I clambered down. See I didn't have any scaffolding,

983
00:45:14,120 --> 00:45:16,759
Speaker 2: didn't have any cones, didn't have anything. I told this

984
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Speaker 2: to the Prime Minister. He griomusd a little bit. But anyway,

985
00:45:19,239 --> 00:45:22,279
Speaker 2: more on changes coming to the farm in just a moment.

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Speaker 2: Mike, the new infrastructure will get a good workout today

990
00:45:37,600 --> 00:45:40,560
Speaker 2: and tomorrow. Hopefully it copes, and so do you, Graham.

991
00:45:40,680 --> 00:45:43,160
Speaker 2: Very nice of you to raise my infrastructure. But I

992
00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:47,120
Speaker 2: think yet again the weather's been overegged I am hoping

993
00:45:47,239 --> 00:45:50,440
Speaker 2: for carnage. Meteorologically speaking, this is not wishing ill will

994
00:45:50,520 --> 00:45:53,040
Speaker 2: on anyone around the country. But I look at the

995
00:45:53,080 --> 00:45:55,440
Speaker 2: forecast and I just don't think that what we put

996
00:45:55,520 --> 00:45:59,000
Speaker 2: into the land last week is really going to get tested.

997
00:45:59,040 --> 00:46:01,319
Speaker 2: I think it's going to laugh what's coming its way.

998
00:46:01,360 --> 00:46:03,439
Speaker 2: There's a short burst, there might be a downpour, there's

999
00:46:03,440 --> 00:46:05,799
Speaker 2: a bit of wind. So I just don't think it's

1000
00:46:05,840 --> 00:46:07,279
Speaker 2: up for the test. But you're very kind of raise

1001
00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:10,719
Speaker 2: it morning, Mike. It also astonishes me. It scares back

1002
00:46:10,719 --> 00:46:12,160
Speaker 2: to the jobs that gave you in New South Wales

1003
00:46:12,200 --> 00:46:14,720
Speaker 2: and all the cardige they've got economically across the Tasman

1004
00:46:14,760 --> 00:46:16,640
Speaker 2: at the moment, versus all the people who want to

1005
00:46:16,960 --> 00:46:18,719
Speaker 2: leave New Zealand and go to Australia thinking it's the

1006
00:46:18,800 --> 00:46:21,960
Speaker 2: land of milk and honey. It always astonishes me how

1007
00:46:22,040 --> 00:46:25,040
Speaker 2: little Australia and New Zealand know of each other's domestic affairs,

1008
00:46:25,080 --> 00:46:27,439
Speaker 2: because so little news about Australia features in our media.

1009
00:46:27,520 --> 00:46:30,000
Speaker 2: It's such a good point, Peter. I think many New

1010
00:46:30,120 --> 00:46:32,360
Speaker 2: Zealanders come to the conclusion that Australia does not have

1011
00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:35,399
Speaker 2: any problems and that life there is all milk and honey.

1012
00:46:35,480 --> 00:46:37,560
Speaker 2: In reality, both of the problem New Zealand has problems

1013
00:46:37,600 --> 00:46:39,799
Speaker 2: in Australia. You couldn't hit the nail on the head

1014
00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:48,719
Speaker 2: twenty two minutes away from seven Time lab understaking. The

1015
00:46:48,800 --> 00:46:51,400
Speaker 2: sound is there, Joel Shadbosity is back. This's haven't been

1016
00:46:51,440 --> 00:46:54,160
Speaker 2: on a throwdown for three years. It's about three hounds

1017
00:46:54,160 --> 00:46:56,440
Speaker 2: about three, isn't it. I know it's about three our revenots.

1018
00:46:56,480 --> 00:46:59,439
Speaker 2: It's been three years. No I would have said sex,

1019
00:46:59,520 --> 00:47:03,640
Speaker 2: but ex actually three right back to making stuff cheaper.

1020
00:47:04,120 --> 00:47:05,800
Speaker 2: So far this week we've had more products in the

1021
00:47:05,840 --> 00:47:07,920
Speaker 2: building sector coming to market, which is good. And now

1022
00:47:07,960 --> 00:47:09,640
Speaker 2: the fees associated with the old tap and go to

1023
00:47:09,640 --> 00:47:13,160
Speaker 2: the card chair excuse me card transactions are generally being

1024
00:47:13,239 --> 00:47:15,520
Speaker 2: banned now. Scott Simpson is the Commerce and Consumer Affairs

1025
00:47:15,600 --> 00:47:17,279
Speaker 2: Minister and he's in charge of all of this needs

1026
00:47:17,320 --> 00:47:19,960
Speaker 2: with U Scott. Morning to you morning Mike. Are you

1027
00:47:20,040 --> 00:47:22,239
Speaker 2: disappointed in the reaction from all the people going I'm

1028
00:47:22,280 --> 00:47:23,279
Speaker 2: just going to pass the cost on?

1029
00:47:24,480 --> 00:47:26,880
Speaker 18: Well, yes I am, actually because I think that this

1030
00:47:27,080 --> 00:47:29,520
Speaker 18: is a real wind for New Zealand consumers and actually

1031
00:47:29,560 --> 00:47:32,120
Speaker 18: it's a win for New Zealand businesses as well. Making

1032
00:47:32,440 --> 00:47:36,400
Speaker 18: things simple should be what is part of being a

1033
00:47:36,520 --> 00:47:38,520
Speaker 18: customer being in business in New Zealand.

1034
00:47:38,840 --> 00:47:40,800
Speaker 2: This is a cost on business though, isn't.

1035
00:47:40,680 --> 00:47:46,799
Speaker 18: It Absolutely, But in the same way that wages, rent, insurance,

1036
00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:50,560
Speaker 18: electricity are costs on businesses. My view is that the

1037
00:47:50,719 --> 00:47:53,240
Speaker 18: price you see on the shelf should be the price

1038
00:47:53,320 --> 00:47:54,320
Speaker 18: you pay at the till.

1039
00:47:54,320 --> 00:47:56,080
Speaker 2: Now, why didn't you whack the banks?

1040
00:47:57,800 --> 00:47:58,360
Speaker 15: Because this is.

1041
00:47:58,520 --> 00:48:01,920
Speaker 18: Related to what is referred to as interchange fees, and

1042
00:48:02,080 --> 00:48:05,480
Speaker 18: the ComCom Commerce Commission made some changes a week or

1043
00:48:05,520 --> 00:48:10,680
Speaker 18: two ago. Now they are lowering the interchange rate by

1044
00:48:10,800 --> 00:48:14,160
Speaker 18: regulation that'll come into effect in December, and then we

1045
00:48:14,400 --> 00:48:18,160
Speaker 18: are announcing this ban on surcharges in conjunction with that.

1046
00:48:18,600 --> 00:48:21,160
Speaker 18: So it's not directly related to the banks, but that's

1047
00:48:21,200 --> 00:48:23,880
Speaker 18: something we're always looking at and will be front of

1048
00:48:23,960 --> 00:48:26,040
Speaker 18: mind as we move forward on the legislation on this.

1049
00:48:26,320 --> 00:48:28,920
Speaker 2: So do explain it, because I think that part got missed.

1050
00:48:28,920 --> 00:48:31,120
Speaker 2: I know Nicole of post Cab yesterday tried to explain

1051
00:48:31,120 --> 00:48:32,759
Speaker 2: it the best you could, but this is I think

1052
00:48:32,880 --> 00:48:35,640
Speaker 2: most people have missed this news. So the interchange fees,

1053
00:48:37,040 --> 00:48:39,919
Speaker 2: the Commerce Commission told the banks that they were too high.

1054
00:48:40,560 --> 00:48:43,400
Speaker 2: Could you not have done more? As a government towards

1055
00:48:43,520 --> 00:48:46,439
Speaker 2: the banks as opposed to towards the dairy owner.

1056
00:48:47,719 --> 00:48:51,239
Speaker 18: Well, that's a matter for the Commerce Commission. It's the

1057
00:48:51,320 --> 00:48:55,880
Speaker 18: Commerce Commission that regulates interchange fees, so they'll be watching

1058
00:48:56,040 --> 00:48:58,320
Speaker 18: very carefully this reaction as well. And I'm sure that

1059
00:48:58,480 --> 00:49:01,160
Speaker 18: in the future, maybe sooner than we think, they might

1060
00:49:01,200 --> 00:49:01,920
Speaker 18: have another look at it.

1061
00:49:02,080 --> 00:49:03,800
Speaker 2: Okay. So when you say sooner than they think, you

1062
00:49:03,880 --> 00:49:04,600
Speaker 2: know something's coming.

1063
00:49:04,680 --> 00:49:09,600
Speaker 18: Yes, well, not necessarily, but the Commerce Commission members they

1064
00:49:09,960 --> 00:49:12,680
Speaker 18: read and take into account media and public response just

1065
00:49:12,760 --> 00:49:13,360
Speaker 18: like you and I do.

1066
00:49:13,640 --> 00:49:17,759
Speaker 2: Okay, the looseness around fees at retail level. Is there

1067
00:49:17,800 --> 00:49:20,360
Speaker 2: anything stopping this actually happening? I mean, good on you

1068
00:49:20,480 --> 00:49:22,279
Speaker 2: for making the announcement. Yes, it should work, but I

1069
00:49:22,360 --> 00:49:24,000
Speaker 2: mean if he wants to charge one percent or two

1070
00:49:24,040 --> 00:49:25,319
Speaker 2: percent of through it, what's stopping them.

1071
00:49:26,960 --> 00:49:30,239
Speaker 18: Well that's why we need some legislative change, and that's

1072
00:49:30,280 --> 00:49:31,799
Speaker 18: why it's going to take a little bit longer than

1073
00:49:31,840 --> 00:49:34,840
Speaker 18: I would want to implement this. It'll be probably sometime

1074
00:49:34,880 --> 00:49:37,920
Speaker 18: before May of next year that these little stickers and

1075
00:49:37,960 --> 00:49:38,560
Speaker 18: things are banned.

1076
00:49:38,760 --> 00:49:40,680
Speaker 2: Is that as fast as you can go? Because that

1077
00:49:40,800 --> 00:49:43,399
Speaker 2: was the other surprise yesterday. I mean, it's it's July

1078
00:49:44,239 --> 00:49:46,840
Speaker 2: twenty five and you're saying May twenty six.

1079
00:49:47,640 --> 00:49:50,040
Speaker 18: I'd like to go faster, and the Prime Minister indicated

1080
00:49:50,120 --> 00:49:51,879
Speaker 18: yesterday if we can go faster, we will.

1081
00:49:52,280 --> 00:49:54,400
Speaker 2: Okay, Well, good luck with that. Appreciate it. Scott Simpson,

1082
00:49:54,600 --> 00:49:57,600
Speaker 2: who's the Commerce and Consumer Affairs Minister, nineteen minutes away

1083
00:49:57,680 --> 00:50:02,160
Speaker 2: from eight pasket looks back, gears back, she said on

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Speaker 2: the show. Famously, remember was it two or three months ago?

1085
00:50:04,440 --> 00:50:06,000
Speaker 2: She came on. She goes, Oh, I've got a whole

1086
00:50:06,040 --> 00:50:09,239
Speaker 2: bunch of stuff coming on working Health and safety. And

1087
00:50:09,360 --> 00:50:11,560
Speaker 2: she was right. She's true to her word. So yesterday

1088
00:50:11,560 --> 00:50:14,239
Speaker 2: it was scaffolding. The media tried to take the mickey

1089
00:50:14,280 --> 00:50:16,800
Speaker 2: out of her, and I don't think she handled it.

1090
00:50:17,000 --> 00:50:19,520
Speaker 2: Wasn't her finest moment. But what she's trying to do

1091
00:50:19,640 --> 00:50:21,400
Speaker 2: round scaffolding is what she's trying to do on the

1092
00:50:21,440 --> 00:50:23,880
Speaker 2: farm this morning as the announcement. So scaffolding, do you

1093
00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:26,920
Speaker 2: really it's road cones all over again. You know, when

1094
00:50:26,920 --> 00:50:29,040
Speaker 2: you're putting up scaffolding. The number of people I've had

1095
00:50:29,080 --> 00:50:31,600
Speaker 2: around my house to do some painting, and I go,

1096
00:50:32,320 --> 00:50:34,080
Speaker 2: you know, how much is that going to cost? He goes, oh,

1097
00:50:34,120 --> 00:50:38,280
Speaker 2: well yeah, I'd take us three days, two blokes three days,

1098
00:50:38,360 --> 00:50:39,920
Speaker 2: and then you got the cost of the scaffolding, and

1099
00:50:40,000 --> 00:50:43,200
Speaker 2: I go, what, why do we need scaffolding? What happened

1100
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Speaker 2: to a ladder?

1101
00:50:44,200 --> 00:50:44,319
Speaker 7: Oh?

1102
00:50:44,440 --> 00:50:47,440
Speaker 2: No, you might fall off a ladder, and I've never

1103
00:50:47,520 --> 00:50:50,200
Speaker 2: fallen off a ladder. So anyway, so's that's how that works.

1104
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Speaker 2: So she's working on scaffolding and whether you need a

1105
00:50:52,000 --> 00:50:55,240
Speaker 2: lot of scaffolding and certain circumstances. This morning, it's farms.

1106
00:50:55,560 --> 00:50:57,680
Speaker 2: And here's the thing I didn't realize about farm So

1107
00:50:57,760 --> 00:51:01,000
Speaker 2: she's going to consult with farmers in the wider community

1108
00:51:01,719 --> 00:51:04,719
Speaker 2: on health and safety regulations on the realities of what

1109
00:51:04,840 --> 00:51:07,000
Speaker 2: she terms the realities of farm life. She's going to

1110
00:51:07,040 --> 00:51:11,680
Speaker 2: amend the general risk regulations so that young people can

1111
00:51:11,800 --> 00:51:14,840
Speaker 2: safely take part in light chores on family farms. I

1112
00:51:14,880 --> 00:51:16,880
Speaker 2: didn't even know there were rules around this. This is

1113
00:51:17,000 --> 00:51:21,120
Speaker 2: so ridiculous. I used to help my uncle in Tamuka

1114
00:51:21,320 --> 00:51:23,080
Speaker 2: who owned a farm, and I had the best time

1115
00:51:23,120 --> 00:51:26,160
Speaker 2: as a kid on the tractor and we were climbing

1116
00:51:26,239 --> 00:51:29,240
Speaker 2: fences and the hay bales. I'm sure it's probably all illegal,

1117
00:51:29,960 --> 00:51:34,439
Speaker 2: but it all worked out well. Anyway. Thresholds for light

1118
00:51:34,600 --> 00:51:36,680
Speaker 2: chores that children can do on farms. Do you know

1119
00:51:36,760 --> 00:51:38,480
Speaker 2: what one of the chores could be that's regulated? In

1120
00:51:38,520 --> 00:51:39,600
Speaker 2: the collecting eggs?

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Speaker 9: I mean, seriously, it can't go wrong.

1122
00:51:43,560 --> 00:51:46,919
Speaker 2: No, it can't unless you're break your eggs. You break

1123
00:51:47,000 --> 00:51:48,640
Speaker 2: the egg and then someone yells at you. But that's,

1124
00:51:48,800 --> 00:51:55,719
Speaker 2: you know, feeding small animals, watering plants. I mean, we've

1125
00:51:55,760 --> 00:51:56,319
Speaker 2: got rules run.

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00:51:56,600 --> 00:52:00,840
Speaker 9: It probably includes chihuahas and the small animals more dangerous

1127
00:52:00,840 --> 00:52:01,960
Speaker 9: than rottwilers. As we all know.

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Speaker 2: She's looking at the as you grow older driving a tractor,

1129
00:52:06,120 --> 00:52:08,360
Speaker 2: there are rules around driving. I thought every kid on

1130
00:52:08,440 --> 00:52:11,000
Speaker 2: a farm drove a tractor and a motorcycle. When I

1131
00:52:11,120 --> 00:52:13,120
Speaker 2: was on a farm, I was I'm thinking maybe ten

1132
00:52:13,160 --> 00:52:16,080
Speaker 2: to nine on a Suzuki won twenty five.

1133
00:52:16,520 --> 00:52:18,719
Speaker 9: I thought there was the whole reason the farmer's head kids,

1134
00:52:18,719 --> 00:52:20,919
Speaker 9: it's the point was to do the dangerous jobs.

1135
00:52:21,000 --> 00:52:24,200
Speaker 2: You go and by the time you actually set your test,

1136
00:52:24,280 --> 00:52:26,920
Speaker 2: you've come off the farm having been driving the massy

1137
00:52:27,000 --> 00:52:29,680
Speaker 2: ferguson since you were four, and they go, jeez, you're

1138
00:52:29,680 --> 00:52:31,640
Speaker 2: a good driving yea, I've been driving since us four.

1139
00:52:32,360 --> 00:52:33,759
Speaker 2: Apparently there are rules around that.

1140
00:52:34,000 --> 00:52:38,080
Speaker 1: Seventeen to two, the Mike Hosking Breakfast, a full show

1141
00:52:38,160 --> 00:52:41,359
Speaker 1: podcast on iHeartRadio powered by News Talks.

1142
00:52:41,400 --> 00:52:41,640
Speaker 3: It'd be.

1143
00:52:43,400 --> 00:52:43,560
Speaker 6: Mike.

1144
00:52:43,600 --> 00:52:46,000
Speaker 2: The sweet change stuff is a joke. I never used payWave.

1145
00:52:46,120 --> 00:52:47,960
Speaker 2: If there's a charge, I just swipe and set the cart.

1146
00:52:47,960 --> 00:52:49,680
Speaker 2: It's a very good point. In a small confession on

1147
00:52:49,760 --> 00:52:52,880
Speaker 2: my part, I only realized the other day when I

1148
00:52:53,000 --> 00:52:55,480
Speaker 2: was told by somebody at home who will need to

1149
00:52:55,520 --> 00:52:58,880
Speaker 2: remain nameless, that if you put your card into the machine,

1150
00:52:59,200 --> 00:53:03,200
Speaker 2: you don't get charged. I didn't realize that, but it's

1151
00:53:03,280 --> 00:53:05,960
Speaker 2: true according to people, and I was very uplifting part

1152
00:53:06,040 --> 00:53:09,040
Speaker 2: of the I always like hearing about New Zealand from offshore.

1153
00:53:09,560 --> 00:53:11,320
Speaker 2: And there was a very good review yesterday in the

1154
00:53:11,320 --> 00:53:15,000
Speaker 2: Sydney Morning Herald under the headline like flying business class

1155
00:53:15,120 --> 00:53:20,400
Speaker 2: with better views on board New Zealand's thrilling scenic train.

1156
00:53:21,239 --> 00:53:23,560
Speaker 2: And so one of the writers came across and took

1157
00:53:23,600 --> 00:53:26,440
Speaker 2: one of the great journeys that our rail service provides

1158
00:53:26,480 --> 00:53:30,400
Speaker 2: these days, Scenic Plus Northern Explorer ten hour journey from

1159
00:53:30,400 --> 00:53:33,040
Speaker 2: Auckland to Wellington also operates in reverse. And there's the

1160
00:53:33,120 --> 00:53:37,400
Speaker 2: Trans Alpine and the Coastal Pacific trains, and there's photos

1161
00:53:37,400 --> 00:53:39,279
Speaker 2: of New Zealand and how beautiful it is and what

1162
00:53:39,400 --> 00:53:41,120
Speaker 2: you get on board, and I'll tell you what.

1163
00:53:42,719 --> 00:53:43,080
Speaker 1: It was.

1164
00:53:43,280 --> 00:53:45,720
Speaker 2: I think I knew the prices, but it was confirmed

1165
00:53:45,760 --> 00:53:50,200
Speaker 2: for me. It's cheap for a holiday on a train

1166
00:53:50,320 --> 00:53:52,160
Speaker 2: to go see the chunk of the North Island. And

1167
00:53:52,360 --> 00:53:54,840
Speaker 2: rail's fantastic. These are these beautiful trains with big windows

1168
00:53:54,840 --> 00:53:57,439
Speaker 2: and stuff like that. It's about five hundred bucks, which

1169
00:53:57,480 --> 00:53:59,080
Speaker 2: I think of all the things you have, all the

1170
00:53:59,160 --> 00:54:01,360
Speaker 2: money that we're to I don't know whether that includes

1171
00:54:01,400 --> 00:54:03,600
Speaker 2: the surcharge if you tap him go, but it's about

1172
00:54:03,640 --> 00:54:06,920
Speaker 2: five hundred bucks. And the food include food and drink,

1173
00:54:07,320 --> 00:54:08,920
Speaker 2: and you stay at a place in the middle of

1174
00:54:08,960 --> 00:54:11,600
Speaker 2: the North Island that was nobly expensive either. So you

1175
00:54:11,719 --> 00:54:14,879
Speaker 2: can see New Zealand for a comparatively affordable price. Then

1176
00:54:14,960 --> 00:54:17,600
Speaker 2: also while I was wandering through the Sudnay morning Herald

1177
00:54:17,640 --> 00:54:21,080
Speaker 2: Day came across Neil Breen's peace. He's the sports editor

1178
00:54:21,640 --> 00:54:25,040
Speaker 2: and he unfortunately under the headline the premiership is there

1179
00:54:25,080 --> 00:54:28,759
Speaker 2: for the taking of the Raiders can hold their nerve

1180
00:54:29,480 --> 00:54:31,440
Speaker 2: no matter which way you cut its, He rites, the

1181
00:54:31,520 --> 00:54:34,560
Speaker 2: twenty five premiership is there for the Raiders. He goes

1182
00:54:34,600 --> 00:54:36,880
Speaker 2: through a couple of provisos, like all journalists do just

1183
00:54:36,920 --> 00:54:38,839
Speaker 2: to cover their ass, you know. He goes, ah, tell

1184
00:54:38,880 --> 00:54:40,360
Speaker 2: you what the Raiders is going to win? Ah, But

1185
00:54:41,040 --> 00:54:42,840
Speaker 2: and then he goes through that anyway, He's come to

1186
00:54:42,920 --> 00:54:45,279
Speaker 2: the same conclusion that seemingly everyone else has come to

1187
00:54:46,040 --> 00:54:48,919
Speaker 2: around the Warriors. The Warriors, he comes to. He looks

1188
00:54:48,920 --> 00:54:51,960
Speaker 2: at all the different teams that are potentially the prospects.

1189
00:54:52,239 --> 00:54:54,200
Speaker 2: He worries a bit about the Panthers, as you do,

1190
00:54:54,320 --> 00:54:57,040
Speaker 2: because they're there or there are bouts. He thinks the

1191
00:54:57,520 --> 00:54:59,880
Speaker 2: Bulldogs might have blown it with a guy called Lockey Galvin.

1192
00:55:00,080 --> 00:55:02,360
Speaker 2: I don't know anything about Locky Gelvin, but Locky Gelvin

1193
00:55:02,400 --> 00:55:05,560
Speaker 2: apparently is going to stuff it all up for the Bulldogs.

1194
00:55:06,600 --> 00:55:07,920
Speaker 2: I hope he does. I mean, I hope he does

1195
00:55:08,000 --> 00:55:09,279
Speaker 2: in a couple of weeks when we play them. I

1196
00:55:09,280 --> 00:55:11,640
Speaker 2: hope Lockie has a dreadful game. I hope Lockie is useless,

1197
00:55:11,920 --> 00:55:13,279
Speaker 2: even though I've never heard of him. He's got a

1198
00:55:13,360 --> 00:55:15,480
Speaker 2: rude hair cap. But mind you, most of them legally

1199
00:55:15,480 --> 00:55:16,920
Speaker 2: these days got a root hair. It's some of the

1200
00:55:17,000 --> 00:55:18,960
Speaker 2: faith thing going on. You notice that with a lot

1201
00:55:19,000 --> 00:55:21,840
Speaker 2: of athletes, the fade down the side just and not

1202
00:55:22,040 --> 00:55:24,560
Speaker 2: just a fade when our kids were getting fades. When

1203
00:55:24,600 --> 00:55:27,360
Speaker 2: fades came in, you went to the right person, and

1204
00:55:27,440 --> 00:55:29,279
Speaker 2: you've got a fade that looked like a faith. This

1205
00:55:29,440 --> 00:55:31,440
Speaker 2: is just a hack, you know. It's just like that.

1206
00:55:31,600 --> 00:55:33,000
Speaker 2: They're probably doing it at home.

1207
00:55:33,480 --> 00:55:34,280
Speaker 9: It's just shaved.

1208
00:55:34,400 --> 00:55:36,600
Speaker 2: Really, yeah, exactly, it's not. It's not a fad. It's

1209
00:55:36,640 --> 00:55:37,719
Speaker 2: a shave. It's exactly right.

1210
00:55:37,840 --> 00:55:39,680
Speaker 9: It's a I was going to say it's a short

1211
00:55:39,719 --> 00:55:41,040
Speaker 9: back in size, but it's a short.

1212
00:55:40,920 --> 00:55:44,759
Speaker 2: Side, no sides. It's like full on head and no side.

1213
00:55:45,440 --> 00:55:47,319
Speaker 9: And the end they'll have a rude mustache to go.

1214
00:55:47,400 --> 00:55:50,800
Speaker 2: With it, a mustache thing. I don't understand what's going on.

1215
00:55:51,000 --> 00:55:55,640
Speaker 2: Christy me a single person who look good in a mustache?

1216
00:55:56,120 --> 00:56:00,320
Speaker 2: Name me one, sir, Richard Hadley. Now you've been funny,

1217
00:56:01,520 --> 00:56:03,440
Speaker 2: magn p I we've just had no. No, that's no,

1218
00:56:03,680 --> 00:56:06,759
Speaker 2: that's a go to answer. That was your Who's the

1219
00:56:06,840 --> 00:56:09,640
Speaker 2: first person I can think of with a big fat mustache,

1220
00:56:10,000 --> 00:56:12,160
Speaker 2: Tom Selleck. So that doesn't make it a good mustache,

1221
00:56:12,160 --> 00:56:13,560
Speaker 2: it just makes it the first person. If you're gonna

1222
00:56:13,600 --> 00:56:17,000
Speaker 2: go down, Richard Hadley say, Dennis Lily, Well, you know,

1223
00:56:17,560 --> 00:56:18,040
Speaker 2: but you've.

1224
00:56:17,920 --> 00:56:19,880
Speaker 9: Got to sort of wear it in to get a mustache.

1225
00:56:19,920 --> 00:56:20,120
Speaker 6: L like that.

1226
00:56:20,400 --> 00:56:22,600
Speaker 9: You can't just suddenly have a mustache.

1227
00:56:22,760 --> 00:56:23,400
Speaker 2: Does it worry you?

1228
00:56:23,520 --> 00:56:23,719
Speaker 13: Glean?

1229
00:56:23,800 --> 00:56:25,440
Speaker 2: The half of the audience will be going Richard, who,

1230
00:56:25,960 --> 00:56:31,759
Speaker 2: Dennis what? Kevin Costner? Okay, Sammy comes in with Kevin

1231
00:56:31,800 --> 00:56:35,320
Speaker 2: Costner doesn't have a mostache? Mustache? Don't You can't. The

1232
00:56:35,480 --> 00:56:37,719
Speaker 2: rules of the game, Sammy are you can't name people

1233
00:56:37,719 --> 00:56:40,800
Speaker 2: who don't have a mustache. That's just stupid, that's cheating. Anyway,

1234
00:56:40,800 --> 00:56:44,920
Speaker 2: where the Warriors are without half back Luke Metcalfe and

1235
00:56:45,600 --> 00:56:48,360
Speaker 2: that's the usual thing. So he's another one that's written

1236
00:56:48,440 --> 00:56:52,279
Speaker 2: us off depressingly. Nine away from eight the.

1237
00:56:52,480 --> 00:56:55,960
Speaker 3: Mike Hosking Breakfast with Bailey's real Estate used Dogs.

1238
00:56:56,719 --> 00:56:59,879
Speaker 2: Speaking of Sammy, is it are you a proper dog? Owing?

1239
00:57:01,520 --> 00:57:03,239
Speaker 2: If you on a wet day? I don't know if

1240
00:57:03,280 --> 00:57:06,920
Speaker 2: you've heard, but there's an atmospheric river sixteen hundred orange

1241
00:57:06,920 --> 00:57:08,919
Speaker 2: warnings out there at the moment. I mean, go straight

1242
00:57:08,960 --> 00:57:10,960
Speaker 2: to the Herald, straight to stuff Andy digital outly it

1243
00:57:11,000 --> 00:57:13,520
Speaker 2: will tell you how bad it is. Noah's coming shortly. Anyway.

1244
00:57:13,640 --> 00:57:16,920
Speaker 2: On a rainy day, which is what some people call it,

1245
00:57:17,400 --> 00:57:19,520
Speaker 2: on a rainy day, are you a real dog owner.

1246
00:57:19,600 --> 00:57:23,240
Speaker 2: If you organize for your new puppy to do their

1247
00:57:23,320 --> 00:57:27,600
Speaker 2: exercise in an undercover car puck. If you look at

1248
00:57:27,640 --> 00:57:29,520
Speaker 2: the forecast and go, well, tomorrow it's going to raine.

1249
00:57:29,560 --> 00:57:33,280
Speaker 2: Little puppy what's its name? I can't even remember its name, Rocky.

1250
00:57:34,080 --> 00:57:35,880
Speaker 9: Ironically, storm storm?

1251
00:57:37,800 --> 00:57:43,600
Speaker 2: Do you go storm because there's a atmospheric river atmospheric river.

1252
00:57:43,760 --> 00:57:46,000
Speaker 9: Storm otherwise known as a storm now storm.

1253
00:57:46,800 --> 00:57:49,080
Speaker 2: We're going to walk around a car park tomorrow indoors,

1254
00:57:49,240 --> 00:57:51,280
Speaker 2: I mean, are you a proper dog owner like that?

1255
00:57:51,480 --> 00:57:51,640
Speaker 16: Well?

1256
00:57:51,680 --> 00:57:53,280
Speaker 9: What does he do? What a normal person does and

1257
00:57:53,360 --> 00:57:55,960
Speaker 9: take his dog to doggie day? Here as dead did right?

1258
00:57:56,560 --> 00:58:00,280
Speaker 2: George Roper? Somebody texted and George Roper once again? People

1259
00:58:00,320 --> 00:58:04,440
Speaker 2: ain't who Chopper read. People are definitely going.

1260
00:58:04,280 --> 00:58:06,080
Speaker 9: Who oh yeah, well he had the sort of the

1261
00:58:06,120 --> 00:58:06,600
Speaker 9: move Hughes.

1262
00:58:06,680 --> 00:58:08,880
Speaker 2: Yeah. But stupid, I mean it's stupid. You're saying names

1263
00:58:08,920 --> 00:58:11,200
Speaker 2: with people with mustache. You're not saying good looking mustaches.

1264
00:58:11,240 --> 00:58:13,880
Speaker 2: Burt Reynolds. No, you're thinking Burt Reynolds in his time

1265
00:58:14,080 --> 00:58:18,400
Speaker 2: was moderately good looking. David Byrne, yes of Hulk Hogan

1266
00:58:19,400 --> 00:58:24,240
Speaker 2: looks ridiculous move Hughes, Mark Sainsbury. I mean, they're all

1267
00:58:24,360 --> 00:58:26,600
Speaker 2: ridiculous mustaches. Is not a single person with a good

1268
00:58:26,600 --> 00:58:29,480
Speaker 2: looking mustache until the Texter came in Willy a Piata.

1269
00:58:30,360 --> 00:58:32,200
Speaker 2: I'll give you that one, but are you are you

1270
00:58:32,360 --> 00:58:34,640
Speaker 2: really could Willy Appiata wear a bag on his head

1271
00:58:34,640 --> 00:58:36,600
Speaker 2: and you still think he's good looking? I think you would.

1272
00:58:37,080 --> 00:58:37,240
Speaker 13: You know?

1273
00:58:37,360 --> 00:58:42,280
Speaker 9: What about that one that Robert mcgarby and Michael Jordan and.

1274
00:58:43,000 --> 00:58:45,160
Speaker 2: Roberts mcgarby and Michael Jordan.

1275
00:58:45,360 --> 00:58:48,680
Speaker 9: Yeah, you know, and who's the other guy? Adolph?

1276
00:58:49,360 --> 00:58:52,560
Speaker 2: Okay, no, no, no, no one. It's called a burst fade.

1277
00:58:52,680 --> 00:58:57,000
Speaker 2: Apparently it's called a burst fade. By the way, here's said.

1278
00:58:57,000 --> 00:58:59,320
Speaker 2: We didn't do it all we said about thirty minutes yesterday,

1279
00:58:59,320 --> 00:59:03,160
Speaker 2: Happy Gilmore Too, Happy Gilmore Too, which is out on Netflix,

1280
00:59:03,960 --> 00:59:07,200
Speaker 2: is a great movie. And what was interesting about it

1281
00:59:07,560 --> 00:59:09,959
Speaker 2: was I was it was like the movies of old.

1282
00:59:10,080 --> 00:59:12,920
Speaker 2: It's like I'm being transported back in time to just

1283
00:59:13,320 --> 00:59:18,120
Speaker 2: simple entertainment, nothing complicated about it. And I said to Katie,

1284
00:59:18,120 --> 00:59:20,280
Speaker 2: I said, the problem with this, if you hadn't seen

1285
00:59:20,320 --> 00:59:23,560
Speaker 2: Happy Gilmore the original, you'd think this is complete crap.

1286
00:59:24,600 --> 00:59:28,600
Speaker 2: To what she said, I didn't see the original, and

1287
00:59:28,760 --> 00:59:32,160
Speaker 2: this is all new to me, and I'm thoroughly enjoying it.

1288
00:59:32,840 --> 00:59:35,920
Speaker 2: So it transcends the generation, so to.

1289
00:59:35,920 --> 00:59:37,960
Speaker 9: Be, like somebody's saying they've never seen Lord.

1290
00:59:37,760 --> 00:59:40,560
Speaker 2: Of the Rings exactly, and I've never seen Lord of

1291
00:59:40,600 --> 00:59:42,640
Speaker 2: the Rings, but I haven't seen Lord of the Rings too.

1292
00:59:42,800 --> 00:59:44,880
Speaker 2: When's that out? Is that at the same time that

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Speaker 2: Avatar five's coming out?

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Speaker 9: That's been still have a mustache and happy Gilmore toeo.

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Speaker 2: I think he does news for you, and he looks

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Speaker 2: like an idiot news for you in a couple of moments.

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Speaker 2: Then we'll catch up with Lab's Joel Shadbolt, the.

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Speaker 1: News and the newsmakers, Hi casking breakfast with Bailey's real

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Speaker 1: estate altogether better across residential, commercial and rural news talks.

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Speaker 3: Head be.

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Speaker 2: Here is seven past eight. Life seems good for Joel

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Speaker 2: Shadbolt at the moment of LAB. Of course, when he

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Speaker 2: was here three years ago, he was a music teacher,

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Speaker 2: but he's since handed in the old notice apparently to

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Speaker 2: go full time on stage. In the ensuing period, there

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Speaker 2: have been awards and new albums, a new Somemer schedule

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Speaker 2: that will see them play here and indeed on the

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Speaker 2: Gold Coast, and Joel Shadbolt is back with us. A

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Speaker 2: very good morning to you. Good morning, I'm very well indeed,

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Speaker 2: thank you.

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Speaker 13: Hey.

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Speaker 2: We had Ed Sheeran on the program last week. One

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Speaker 2: of the things he's done, the only reason I raised

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Speaker 2: this is one of the things he's done is he's

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Speaker 2: given a lot of money, apparently to his old school

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Speaker 2: for music programs and you know, music teaching and stuff

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Speaker 2: like that. Do you what's been your experience in teaching

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Speaker 2: music as opposed to a kid just being a gifted

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Speaker 2: kid who might well rise to the top at some

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Speaker 2: later stage, you know, for a love of music. How

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Speaker 2: does that work? Does teaching work and lead somewhere?

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Speaker 12: Yeah, for sure. I actually I've kind of delved back

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Speaker 12: into a bit of teaching this year, which has been nice.

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Speaker 12: And I actually I gave a guitar to my old

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Speaker 12: high school a couple of years back. We were lucky

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Speaker 12: enough to get gifted some guitars in Australia. I thought, well,

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Speaker 12: I don't need this guitar, I'll give it to my

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Speaker 12: high school.

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Speaker 13: So I did that.

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Speaker 12: But yeah, I look, teaching is one of those things

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Speaker 12: that I think I'll always do and always have a

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Speaker 12: love and passion for, because you know, that's how I

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Speaker 12: learned how to play. I had people, but you know,

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Speaker 12: take me under their wing and show me the ropes.

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Speaker 12: So I always want to be able to do that

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Speaker 12: give back.

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Speaker 2: And do you do it privately in terms of you know,

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Speaker 2: like music lessons or do you do it through a school? Well,

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Speaker 2: have you done it through school?

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Speaker 17: No?

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Speaker 12: I just just yet, just through high schools a couple

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Speaker 12: of high schools around the local any region.

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Speaker 2: And do you do what just guitars or music gen Yeah.

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Speaker 12: Guitars and they're like guitar suition and then kind of

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Speaker 12: band coaching and songwriting workshops and stuff like that. The

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Speaker 12: other thing I have was just the Music Commission, which

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Speaker 12: is which takes me around the whole country, which is

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Speaker 12: super fun, fantastic.

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Speaker 2: How much of people like what you do is driven

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Speaker 2: by that subconscious idea that you're helping somebody to go

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Speaker 2: on to something better as opposed to you making a living.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, I would say it's more of that, Like I

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Speaker 12: can make a living out of playing music, for sure,

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Speaker 12: but it's it's it's not what I Yeah, I mean,

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Speaker 12: I want to make music that I want to make

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Speaker 12: and I don't want to just play music for the

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Speaker 12: sake of making money. It's it's you know that there's

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Speaker 12: much more fulfillment and the and the teaching in regards

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Speaker 12: to like, you know, going and playing at the local

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Speaker 12: casino kind of thing, you know what I mean?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. So I mentioned so the tours coming up,

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Speaker 2: the Summerhugels doing it, but it also involves Stan Walker.

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Speaker 2: How did that come about?

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Speaker 12: Yeah, look, Stands we have two of us Stand quite

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Speaker 12: a few times now. He's he's been a great addition

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Speaker 12: to the kind of the lineup that we've We've had

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Speaker 12: on a summer run and then we played with the

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Speaker 12: last summer and it went really really well. We also

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Speaker 12: had Corolla and so a Bunchet. We're actually quite local

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Speaker 12: to plenty like most of the bands, which is quite special.

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Speaker 12: Men Stand went to school together. So so it's sort

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Speaker 12: to have him on the line.

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Speaker 2: Does there have to be I mean, the advantage, but

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Speaker 2: you know there's a vibe, don't you having tour before,

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Speaker 2: you know, there's the vibe you get on together. There's

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Speaker 2: no angst on the road, So that helps.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, for sure. You know, I was still going to

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Speaker 12: stand about this last week when he said, you know,

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Speaker 12: like at the start of the tour, it was like, oh,

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Speaker 12: you know, we're attle bit nervous, and then by the

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Speaker 12: end of the tour, all the bands are getting on

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Speaker 12: and there's nothing better to see that camaraderie on the road,

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Speaker 12: you know, with the crew of people, you're bringing each other,

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Speaker 12: putting out of each other's pockets, you know, Yeah, two

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Speaker 12: or three weeks at the time, so it was real special.

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Speaker 2: You went to the States.

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Speaker 9: How did that go?

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Speaker 2: And how do you crack a market that size? And

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Speaker 2: is the audience made up largely expats or do you

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Speaker 2: get into actual Americans?

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Speaker 12: Yeah, I think with the States, we're lucky to kind

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Speaker 12: of crack into a bit of a market there. There's

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Speaker 12: a there's a particularly California and Hawaii, so that that

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Speaker 12: kind of side of the States. There's a massive reggae

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Speaker 12: contingency over there.

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Speaker 13: You know.

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Speaker 12: We played with a band called the My Only and

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Speaker 12: Jay Boog and they're both quite established artists on that

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Speaker 12: side of the world. So it's really nice to be

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Speaker 12: able to kind of piggyback on the back of their

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Speaker 12: audience and he and we I think we want over.

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Speaker 12: So it's it's a little bit of you know, it's

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Speaker 12: going to take time for sure, we've got to get back,

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Speaker 12: you know, this year and hopefully next and just keep

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Speaker 12: working on it. You know, it's not gonna it's not

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Speaker 12: gonna happen overnight.

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Speaker 2: And so how do you who who's the brains behind

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Speaker 2: all of that? You know, when you talk about going

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Speaker 2: back in a plan and a bigger picture, who works

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Speaker 2: all that out.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, it's a combination of the band and then our

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Speaker 12: management and label, which is Loop and we kind of

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Speaker 12: we've decided to focus on the States rather than Europe

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Speaker 12: and stuff like that. So yeah, it's just a bit

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Speaker 12: of a long game. But with the States. I really

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Speaker 12: hope it works for LAB because I think I think

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Speaker 12: we do have something to give to the to the

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Speaker 12: audience over there, and we'll hope you I said, open

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Speaker 12: to get back next year and with the help of

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Speaker 12: our label and agents over there and stuff like that.

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Speaker 2: Good stuff. I need to talk to you about fitness

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Speaker 2: In the Moment stand by Joel Chabbolt, Lab More in

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Speaker 2: a Moment thirteen Past the.

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Speaker 1: Mike Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered by News.

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Speaker 2: Talks it B News Talks. A quarter past eight. Jels

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Speaker 2: s Herbolt's a guest from LAB Health. I read something

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Speaker 2: interesting about you the other day, Joel. As a touring vocalist,

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Speaker 2: performing shows back to back, you become hyper aware of

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Speaker 2: how your body feels. Sleep, hydration, nutrition, and movement are

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Speaker 2: your four pillars? Has that always been you or is

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01:05:55,400 --> 01:05:58,040
Speaker 2: that a music slash touring related thing.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, it's one of those things that I've I've had

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01:06:01,800 --> 01:06:05,959
Speaker 12: to have a trial and error for sure, and lucky

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Speaker 12: enough to have a great vocal coach who's helped me

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Speaker 12: with a lot of that stuff. And I guess it's

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Speaker 12: no different to you know, a team going to the

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Speaker 12: Olympics and having to play a game after game after games,

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Speaker 12: it's like your body just it's not that you can't

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Speaker 12: do it, but you need your body to bounce back

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Speaker 12: as fast as possible. And the fitter you are, the

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Speaker 12: healthy you are, the easier it is.

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Speaker 2: So have you always known that or is that something

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Speaker 2: you've learned along the way. And if you have learned

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Speaker 2: it along the way, how what sort of difference has

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Speaker 2: it made?

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Speaker 12: Oh it's massive, you know, Like I think as a vocalist,

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Speaker 12: it's yeah, you do become higher aware because of I

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Speaker 12: mean those high notes that you've got to hit every night,

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Speaker 12: you know, you just know what your your voice feels like,

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01:06:48,200 --> 01:06:50,120
Speaker 12: and you know what you need to de limit the job.

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Speaker 12: And I guess you don't know until you get really

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01:06:53,000 --> 01:06:55,480
Speaker 12: healthy and start to feel those things. But you know that,

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Speaker 12: I remember my first time catch a fire in LED

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01:06:58,920 --> 01:07:01,479
Speaker 12: working for them in Australia with the twenty two gigs

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Speaker 12: in two days, and it was just baptism by fire.

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Speaker 12: It's just absolutely ridiculous the amount of load on the

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01:07:08,560 --> 01:07:10,760
Speaker 12: body in your mind, you know, and you obviously feel

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01:07:10,920 --> 01:07:13,520
Speaker 12: you never feel settled on the road or grounded. You're

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01:07:13,560 --> 01:07:16,760
Speaker 12: constantly you know, and fight or flight, I guess to

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Speaker 12: a point. So it's just learning ways to kind of yah,

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Speaker 12: keep yourself scentered and delivered the job.

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Speaker 2: Is that do you know common among musos these days?

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Speaker 2: Because it's funnily enough watching a video the other day

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Speaker 2: of Rod Stewart when he was with the Faces. They

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Speaker 2: used to just drink and shag and smoke and drug

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Speaker 2: and throw TVs out the window and that was that.

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Speaker 2: That was rock and roll, wasn't.

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Speaker 13: It for sure?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 12: I mean, well Joe Welsh as well, right, Yeah, but yeah,

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Speaker 12: I look, it's I think these days it's on the

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Speaker 12: level of, like you know, edge hearing and all those

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Speaker 12: kind of guys. You know, they talk about it as well,

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Speaker 12: and it's kind of the season thing. I guess you

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Speaker 12: kind of you get ready for the season and yeah,

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Speaker 12: it's Yeah, it's one of those things that I think

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Speaker 12: it's different these days for sure, But we're the ones

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Speaker 12: that you know, you just can't last if you if

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Speaker 12: you're playing show after show, you might be able to

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Speaker 12: do it for two weeks and then your body just

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Speaker 12: turns the ship.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, somebody told me you run up Mount Monganui.

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Speaker 3: Do you.

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Speaker 12: I wouldn't say rhyme, I say trot up there.

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Speaker 2: Ego doesn't doesn't because my wife's trained or a woman

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Speaker 2: she's involved with Loretta. I don't know if you know Loretta,

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Speaker 2: but she runs up Mount Monganui every single day.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, I think I did know. Lireti. Yeah, this is

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Speaker 12: a problem mount. Yeah. Ok, it's such a great and

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Speaker 12: when you go down there, there's people just absolutely honing

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Speaker 12: up there, so you can't help with the inspired good buzz.

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Speaker 2: Exactly good the Harley? You still got it?

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Speaker 12: No I sold the Harley?

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Speaker 13: Yeah?

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Speaker 12: Yeah, I know, I know, I know. I look, I'll

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Speaker 12: get another one one day, don't worry. I'm saving up

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Speaker 12: for a sawning. I sold the Harley and I wanted to.

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Speaker 12: I gave some money to Mike from GOBLT Friday and

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Speaker 12: net so that was very cool. Yeah, yeah, so yeah,

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Speaker 12: I'll definitely get one again, for sure.

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Speaker 2: Because once you've had one, you always want one. But

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Speaker 2: what a wonderful thing to donate. And you've had all

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Speaker 2: the music awards of late as well. So overall, Joel,

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Speaker 2: things seem to be going well.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, things are going.

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Speaker 9: All good man.

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Speaker 12: It's life's a ride, you don't know. I'm really enjoying

1508
01:09:24,280 --> 01:09:27,439
Speaker 12: the music. Of course. It keeps me. It's one of

1509
01:09:27,479 --> 01:09:30,320
Speaker 12: the only things that you know, doesn't answered to me.

1510
01:09:30,439 --> 01:09:33,240
Speaker 12: I can go to the music and left.

1511
01:09:33,320 --> 01:09:33,720
Speaker 5: So there you go.

1512
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Speaker 2: Fantastic good to catch up with. You might go well

1513
01:09:35,960 --> 01:09:38,280
Speaker 2: and good luck with the Gold Coast and stand and

1514
01:09:38,320 --> 01:09:41,640
Speaker 2: all of that. Joel Shadbolt of L A B. Now

1515
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Speaker 2: there isn't inside, doesn't it, sold the Harley and gave

1516
01:09:44,000 --> 01:09:46,760
Speaker 2: some money to Mike King. That's a nice person. As

1517
01:09:46,840 --> 01:09:50,400
Speaker 2: for Loretta up the Hill, everybody knows everybody at the mount.

1518
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Speaker 2: Nineteen past eight.

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1520
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Speaker 2: Every corner of the property market, you're going to see

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Speaker 2: from humble beginnings to the position as New Zealand's largestly

1525
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Speaker 2: locally owned, full service real estate agency, Bailey's has got

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Speaker 2: after time. So whether you're on farm, in a warehouse,

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Speaker 2: opening the doors to that dream home of yours, their

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Speaker 2: team of more than two thousand professionals, they've got the skills,

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Speaker 2: they've got the knowledge, they've got the networks to add

1532
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Speaker 2: value to your endeavors, which is why Bailey's is the

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01:10:28,400 --> 01:10:31,320
Speaker 2: country's most trusted real estate brand. They are backed by

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Speaker 2: a proven track record of finding those buyers that others can't,

1535
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Speaker 2: putting people at the heart of everything they do. They've

1536
01:10:36,439 --> 01:10:39,599
Speaker 2: done real estate differently since nineteen seventy three, and they'll

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01:10:39,640 --> 01:10:41,560
Speaker 2: keep doing things all together better in every sector for

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Speaker 2: every keyw for the next fifty years and beyond. We

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01:10:44,000 --> 01:10:47,439
Speaker 2: like them. Bailey's dot co dot NZ as where you

1540
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Speaker 2: go Bailey's dot co dot NZ. You can discover the difference.

1541
01:10:50,760 --> 01:10:53,320
Speaker 2: You'll never regret dealing with the best licensed under the

1542
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Speaker 2: RAA Act of two thousand and eight PA scared Joel's

1543
01:10:56,880 --> 01:10:58,880
Speaker 2: a great example of wellness and performance. I think that's

1544
01:10:58,920 --> 01:11:02,200
Speaker 2: probably true. The two vital flight, which is a well

1545
01:11:02,280 --> 01:11:04,240
Speaker 2: known and well used term if you're in the business

1546
01:11:04,280 --> 01:11:06,519
Speaker 2: of you know, like by I don't know that it is,

1547
01:11:06,600 --> 01:11:08,800
Speaker 2: but BYO hacking and saunering and all that sort of

1548
01:11:08,840 --> 01:11:10,760
Speaker 2: stuff speak of which the cold plunge at the moment,

1549
01:11:10,840 --> 01:11:14,639
Speaker 2: let me tell you, Oh my god, So I used

1550
01:11:14,680 --> 01:11:17,400
Speaker 2: to think I was relatively good at picking a temperature

1551
01:11:17,439 --> 01:11:19,519
Speaker 2: for water. It's just one of those dumb things I do,

1552
01:11:20,280 --> 01:11:22,639
Speaker 2: and I used to get it reasonably good. At the moment,

1553
01:11:22,880 --> 01:11:25,400
Speaker 2: at the cold plunge is at a level because I

1554
01:11:25,920 --> 01:11:28,320
Speaker 2: read you that story the other day in Saint Betham's

1555
01:11:28,880 --> 01:11:31,680
Speaker 2: they've got the ice swimming, they've got the water at

1556
01:11:32,800 --> 01:11:37,200
Speaker 2: four point eight. I don't know that my pull at

1557
01:11:37,240 --> 01:11:39,960
Speaker 2: the moment is much warmer. It will be. It'll be

1558
01:11:40,000 --> 01:11:45,439
Speaker 2: eight or nine, could even be ten. Yeah, I think

1559
01:11:45,479 --> 01:11:47,320
Speaker 2: that's what I'm boiling down to, because I'm going in

1560
01:11:47,400 --> 01:11:50,840
Speaker 2: there and I'm thinking, because the measure has always been

1561
01:11:50,920 --> 01:11:54,080
Speaker 2: the numbness. When you go in really cold water post

1562
01:11:54,120 --> 01:11:56,559
Speaker 2: a sauna, toes and fingers go first, and you get

1563
01:11:56,560 --> 01:11:59,639
Speaker 2: a tingling. Then you get a numbness, and the trick

1564
01:11:59,720 --> 01:12:03,720
Speaker 2: is to work through that and be mentally strong or

1565
01:12:04,800 --> 01:12:06,080
Speaker 2: get out one or the other.

1566
01:12:06,760 --> 01:12:08,840
Speaker 9: I'm sure don't go in in the first place.

1567
01:12:09,560 --> 01:12:10,920
Speaker 2: Option I'm choosing more than getting out.

1568
01:12:10,960 --> 01:12:13,559
Speaker 9: But it's the pain in certain other areas of my body.

1569
01:12:14,320 --> 01:12:16,320
Speaker 2: Yes, say the gun. That's yeah, it is exactly. That's

1570
01:12:16,320 --> 01:12:20,080
Speaker 2: what I don't like exactly. But having said that, he's

1571
01:12:20,120 --> 01:12:22,880
Speaker 2: clearly into it, Mike, he's also running a fifty k event,

1572
01:12:23,000 --> 01:12:27,240
Speaker 2: so he's he's underplaying it because when I say Loretta,

1573
01:12:27,280 --> 01:12:29,800
Speaker 2: Loretta is Lorette is going to be. I don't even

1574
01:12:29,840 --> 01:12:33,000
Speaker 2: know Loretta. All I know is my wife deals with Loretta.

1575
01:12:33,160 --> 01:12:38,280
Speaker 2: Loretta trains elite athletes, and you go as Katie an

1576
01:12:38,320 --> 01:12:42,160
Speaker 2: elite athlete. I believe she is, but nevertheless, Loretta trains

1577
01:12:42,280 --> 01:12:45,200
Speaker 2: elite athletes. But Loretta goes up the mountain every morning,

1578
01:12:45,320 --> 01:12:47,400
Speaker 2: bang at five o'clock, up and down round a round,

1579
01:12:47,720 --> 01:12:51,040
Speaker 2: and that's just for warm ups. And so Joel knows her,

1580
01:12:51,120 --> 01:12:53,200
Speaker 2: and she knows him, and he's doing fifty k's and

1581
01:12:53,280 --> 01:12:55,640
Speaker 2: he's vital flight. Where we're in some sort we're in

1582
01:12:55,760 --> 01:12:58,479
Speaker 2: some sort of elite athlete ecosystem. Then I've just had.

1583
01:13:00,439 --> 01:13:03,559
Speaker 9: Under pressure to specialize and you know, pick just one

1584
01:13:03,640 --> 01:13:08,960
Speaker 9: sport because to Kathlin, rah, yeah, go ten, why do one?

1585
01:13:09,360 --> 01:13:10,680
Speaker 9: I just thought, you know, there was a shade of

1586
01:13:10,680 --> 01:13:12,160
Speaker 9: the sort of the Jeff Wilson's about.

1587
01:13:12,000 --> 01:13:14,639
Speaker 2: Her, you know, very much so all round her. Here's

1588
01:13:14,680 --> 01:13:18,920
Speaker 2: the problem tomorrow her pickleball league. She's formed a league.

1589
01:13:19,080 --> 01:13:26,639
Speaker 2: By the way, her pickleball league starts tomorrow, sadly atmospheric river.

1590
01:13:27,320 --> 01:13:28,880
Speaker 9: I know that's all gone by tomorrow, isn't it.

1591
01:13:28,920 --> 01:13:31,160
Speaker 2: Well, still a bit damp. Do you play pickle on

1592
01:13:31,240 --> 01:13:34,400
Speaker 2: the on the slippery? I don't know. So anyway, you're right,

1593
01:13:34,560 --> 01:13:36,479
Speaker 2: today's where there's not nearly as bad as they said

1594
01:13:36,520 --> 01:13:38,160
Speaker 2: it was going to be, so tomorrow might be better,

1595
01:13:38,640 --> 01:13:41,040
Speaker 2: which then means of course that her pickleball league may

1596
01:13:41,120 --> 01:13:45,040
Speaker 2: well begain So it's exciting times now on that subject,

1597
01:13:45,320 --> 01:13:47,240
Speaker 2: Can I recommend a piece of reading from the Listener?

1598
01:13:47,320 --> 01:13:49,400
Speaker 2: And it's been a very long time since I recommended

1599
01:13:49,439 --> 01:13:51,760
Speaker 2: the Listener. I didn't even know that.

1600
01:13:52,400 --> 01:13:55,360
Speaker 9: Just remind me how one finds a listener these days.

1601
01:13:55,439 --> 01:13:59,559
Speaker 2: I didn't even know the listener still existed anyway, It's

1602
01:13:59,600 --> 01:14:03,080
Speaker 2: only on line now, right. I don't start asking questions

1603
01:14:03,120 --> 01:14:07,320
Speaker 2: about the listener because immediately I'm up, I'm tapping out,

1604
01:14:07,640 --> 01:14:10,320
Speaker 2: so that the headline is and it's false because it

1605
01:14:10,360 --> 01:14:14,559
Speaker 2: says new research how exercise with weights is vital for strength,

1606
01:14:14,680 --> 01:14:17,680
Speaker 2: cognition and healthy agent. Now I've been into this for

1607
01:14:17,800 --> 01:14:21,080
Speaker 2: a while. It's not new research at all. It's old research.

1608
01:14:21,200 --> 01:14:24,040
Speaker 2: It's been around for years. But if you don't happen

1609
01:14:24,080 --> 01:14:26,120
Speaker 2: to know about the it's a trend, is what it's

1610
01:14:26,160 --> 01:14:29,559
Speaker 2: become doing weights, And it's not for building muscle per se.

1611
01:14:29,640 --> 01:14:33,800
Speaker 2: You don't want to look like Atlas, know, but what

1612
01:14:33,920 --> 01:14:36,759
Speaker 2: it is about strength and cognition, and it's for healthy aging.

1613
01:14:36,800 --> 01:14:39,360
Speaker 2: It's for longevity. And they've worked out yes diet and

1614
01:14:39,439 --> 01:14:41,880
Speaker 2: yes exercise, and yes cardio and all that stuff, but

1615
01:14:42,080 --> 01:14:45,800
Speaker 2: working with weights is the new key. So if you

1616
01:14:45,880 --> 01:14:48,640
Speaker 2: want to read the Listener, then they've got a very

1617
01:14:48,680 --> 01:14:50,960
Speaker 2: good article on that and it'll give you a good insight.

1618
01:14:51,080 --> 01:14:52,840
Speaker 2: You might want to bollow some of the advice there.

1619
01:14:53,160 --> 01:14:54,000
Speaker 9: News is next.

1620
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Speaker 1: The only report you need to start your day the

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Speaker 2: Mike is the listener still nine Pencer Copick. It's a

1624
01:15:07,200 --> 01:15:10,120
Speaker 2: very good point. Other one I must have mentioned ironic, Mike,

1625
01:15:10,160 --> 01:15:12,720
Speaker 2: the Chris Hepkins can criticize the board members of remuneration

1626
01:15:12,800 --> 01:15:15,880
Speaker 2: when he sprayed taxpayer cash around like confetti while in power.

1627
01:15:15,960 --> 01:15:18,800
Speaker 2: Lest we forget ah in the lest We Forget is

1628
01:15:18,840 --> 01:15:21,240
Speaker 2: probably the great debate of the day, which I'll come

1629
01:15:21,240 --> 01:15:24,120
Speaker 2: back to in a moment, Mike. Research shows same benefits

1630
01:15:24,160 --> 01:15:26,439
Speaker 2: in cold plunge of up to fifteen degrees. The Tour

1631
01:15:26,479 --> 01:15:29,280
Speaker 2: de France writers are using cold plunge between eleven and

1632
01:15:29,400 --> 01:15:32,080
Speaker 2: fifteen for recovery. Graham, you make a very very good point.

1633
01:15:32,800 --> 01:15:35,360
Speaker 2: There's a lot of hype around cold plunging and saunas

1634
01:15:35,360 --> 01:15:38,160
Speaker 2: and stuff, and you don't need to go to extremes

1635
01:15:38,320 --> 01:15:40,160
Speaker 2: because if you come out of a sauna at eighteen

1636
01:15:40,200 --> 01:15:43,200
Speaker 2: to ninety degrees, even if you jump in fifteen, you're

1637
01:15:43,200 --> 01:15:45,320
Speaker 2: still gone down sixty or seventy degrees, which is all

1638
01:15:45,360 --> 01:15:47,840
Speaker 2: your body needs is just to trigger to burn fat.

1639
01:15:47,920 --> 01:15:49,639
Speaker 2: That's how it works. Of course, so well done, twenty

1640
01:15:49,640 --> 01:15:50,519
Speaker 2: two minutes away.

1641
01:15:50,280 --> 01:15:54,679
Speaker 16: From nine International correspondence with ends and eye insurance, Peace

1642
01:15:54,720 --> 01:15:57,519
Speaker 16: of mind for New Zealand Business UK time.

1643
01:15:57,400 --> 01:16:01,160
Speaker 2: Rob little money mate. It might ha been my observation

1644
01:16:01,280 --> 01:16:04,280
Speaker 2: of this, but Bender layin yesterday I got lots of coverage.

1645
01:16:04,280 --> 01:16:06,680
Speaker 2: I didn't see quite the same coverage of Starmer to

1646
01:16:06,760 --> 01:16:08,639
Speaker 2: day up in Scotland. Did anything get done?

1647
01:16:10,280 --> 01:16:13,360
Speaker 13: Not that much, But I think you can probably say

1648
01:16:13,479 --> 01:16:16,640
Speaker 13: that star got in very very hard on such at

1649
01:16:16,920 --> 01:16:23,360
Speaker 13: a star in Salvation of the Gardens, and I think

1650
01:16:23,760 --> 01:16:28,400
Speaker 13: pushed Trump towards the position where he was slightly hard

1651
01:16:28,479 --> 01:16:34,080
Speaker 13: aligne on Israel that he might otherwise have been. So

1652
01:16:34,439 --> 01:16:38,240
Speaker 13: you did have him admitting saying that there is clearly

1653
01:16:38,400 --> 01:16:41,120
Speaker 13: Star agent there, which I don't think he would have

1654
01:16:41,479 --> 01:16:47,080
Speaker 13: originally have Planet Day and Sarah presented him with a

1655
01:16:47,240 --> 01:16:52,920
Speaker 13: kind of European blueprint for a row towards piece, which

1656
01:16:52,960 --> 01:16:57,880
Speaker 13: I dare say was inane and pointless, but nonetheless you

1657
01:16:57,960 --> 01:17:02,400
Speaker 13: know it. It was cat by Trump and it hasn't

1658
01:17:02,439 --> 01:17:05,479
Speaker 13: been dismissed out of hand. So I think that the

1659
01:17:05,600 --> 01:17:08,559
Speaker 13: two sides on Israel are rather closer than they've been

1660
01:17:08,680 --> 01:17:12,200
Speaker 13: for some time, and it possibly leaves a little bit

1661
01:17:12,240 --> 01:17:14,960
Speaker 13: of the pressure on Starmer, who is under pressure at

1662
01:17:15,000 --> 01:17:19,560
Speaker 13: the moment to recognize Palestine and the state, something he

1663
01:17:19,680 --> 01:17:24,000
Speaker 13: doesn't want to do. He will say for tactical reasons,

1664
01:17:24,080 --> 01:17:25,519
Speaker 13: because he will encourage the mass.

1665
01:17:25,840 --> 01:17:27,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was going to ask you about that. So

1666
01:17:27,600 --> 01:17:30,200
Speaker 2: Macron does the business and then two hundred and twenty

1667
01:17:30,320 --> 01:17:32,840
Speaker 2: m P say how about us? So he's he's holding

1668
01:17:32,920 --> 01:17:33,360
Speaker 2: firm on that.

1669
01:17:33,439 --> 01:17:36,960
Speaker 13: Does he The moment is though his office is already

1670
01:17:37,040 --> 01:17:40,240
Speaker 13: has already said, you know, somewhere down the line, we

1671
01:17:40,280 --> 01:17:42,960
Speaker 13: will recognize the Palestinian state, and there's an end to it.

1672
01:17:43,800 --> 01:17:45,920
Speaker 13: So they're very clear that what it may they will.

1673
01:17:46,479 --> 01:17:49,760
Speaker 13: The question is where, And the argument at the moment

1674
01:17:49,920 --> 01:17:53,720
Speaker 13: is not now, because it would be judicious and it

1675
01:17:53,960 --> 01:17:57,840
Speaker 13: would well, we can use this as a means to hey,

1676
01:17:58,920 --> 01:18:01,479
Speaker 13: people the israelis a track, which I think is rubbish,

1677
01:18:02,160 --> 01:18:04,600
Speaker 13: but also to keep a mass on track, which I

1678
01:18:04,680 --> 01:18:06,120
Speaker 13: think it's probably also rubbish.

1679
01:18:06,640 --> 01:18:08,800
Speaker 2: So they came back at the airport. The football was good.

1680
01:18:08,840 --> 01:18:10,919
Speaker 2: I gave some numbers out road earlier on the television

1681
01:18:10,960 --> 01:18:14,120
Speaker 2: watch fifty nine cheer. I mean, you're all watching the football.

1682
01:18:14,200 --> 01:18:15,920
Speaker 2: How big a deal is it? And why don't they

1683
01:18:15,960 --> 01:18:16,799
Speaker 2: get a bank holiday.

1684
01:18:18,280 --> 01:18:23,080
Speaker 13: Quiet, don't they massive deal? It was still stoting in

1685
01:18:23,200 --> 01:18:28,080
Speaker 13: Britain this year remarkably when you constantly, you know, eight

1686
01:18:28,200 --> 01:18:32,720
Speaker 13: years ago, a woman's FA woman's FA Cup final rum,

1687
01:18:32,760 --> 01:18:36,479
Speaker 13: the World Cup final. You have got you know, lessen

1688
01:18:36,560 --> 01:18:39,720
Speaker 13: a million people watching it. Everyone watched it. It was

1689
01:18:39,760 --> 01:18:45,840
Speaker 13: start painting all the papers. It's possibly won. But there

1690
01:18:45,920 --> 01:18:49,160
Speaker 13: are claims now that the England and Dionyses are the

1691
01:18:49,280 --> 01:18:55,480
Speaker 13: greatest sporting team ever to come out of Britain. Alable

1692
01:18:56,400 --> 01:19:00,320
Speaker 13: fast on what the what the perception were you know,

1693
01:19:01,040 --> 01:19:08,120
Speaker 13: even less two kades ago? Well, it's men playing football.

1694
01:19:08,760 --> 01:19:13,360
Speaker 13: You're playing against people from country there, lily, all the

1695
01:19:13,439 --> 01:19:20,040
Speaker 13: men play football, whereas it's a farm or select category

1696
01:19:20,520 --> 01:19:21,920
Speaker 13: of women who played football.

1697
01:19:21,920 --> 01:19:24,840
Speaker 2: All right, right, listen, we'll let it go. Apologies for

1698
01:19:24,880 --> 01:19:26,400
Speaker 2: the line. I don't know what's happened to him there,

1699
01:19:26,439 --> 01:19:29,720
Speaker 2: but we'll buy them a new one before Thursday. By

1700
01:19:29,800 --> 01:19:33,360
Speaker 2: the way, the Tories bad Knock is going to introduce

1701
01:19:33,479 --> 01:19:35,960
Speaker 2: legislation if she ever gets back to government, to ban

1702
01:19:36,640 --> 01:19:40,160
Speaker 2: striking by doctors, which is probably no bad idea because

1703
01:19:40,160 --> 01:19:42,439
Speaker 2: she's sick a bit, along with most of Britain, along

1704
01:19:42,479 --> 01:19:46,240
Speaker 2: with police officers, soldiers and prison officers who currently can't strike.

1705
01:19:46,640 --> 01:19:48,320
Speaker 2: So she's going to add doctors to the list. If

1706
01:19:48,320 --> 01:19:51,040
Speaker 2: you haven't followed it, Jeremy Corman's launched his own party.

1707
01:19:51,560 --> 01:19:54,000
Speaker 2: He's an independent MP these days. Haven't been booted out

1708
01:19:54,960 --> 01:19:56,680
Speaker 2: of the Labor Party a number of years ago. But

1709
01:19:57,840 --> 01:20:02,040
Speaker 2: dangerously as a reform party does not have a name,

1710
01:20:02,600 --> 01:20:04,960
Speaker 2: offers an alternative to the control freaks of Labor. So

1711
01:20:05,040 --> 01:20:06,920
Speaker 2: we'll see if that goes anywhere. My suspicion is it

1712
01:20:06,920 --> 01:20:09,599
Speaker 2: will go nowhere. And here's another one of these weird things.

1713
01:20:09,640 --> 01:20:11,320
Speaker 2: There was a thing the other day we had on

1714
01:20:11,400 --> 01:20:13,920
Speaker 2: the show. There's a guy in Britain who had strange feet,

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Speaker 2: to remember, and the state ended up paying for his shoes.

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Speaker 2: And the weird rules they have in Britain, So if

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Speaker 2: you had weird feet and he went along and his

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Speaker 2: shoes didn't fit and then he ended up in court

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Speaker 2: of some story anyway that the state pays for your shoes. Well,

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Speaker 2: the latest one is that people in Wales who cannot

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Speaker 2: eat gluten are going to be given a debt style

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Speaker 2: card preloaded with money to buy their food, so you

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Speaker 2: can buy gluten free food. So currently it's the alternative.

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Speaker 2: You can get it on prescription at the moment from

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Speaker 2: the pharmacy. They did a pilot. You get fourteen quid

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Speaker 2: a month, say thirty bucks a month, and you they

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Speaker 2: claim gluten free adds thirty five percent of your food bill.

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Speaker 2: And they're already complaining about the cards, saying it's not enough.

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Speaker 2: So anyway, all you do is go along, say I'm

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Speaker 2: gluten free, and they say, sure, have some money.

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Speaker 9: It's an extra, an extra two dollars for a gluten

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Speaker 9: free base at Domino's. I don't think that's thirty five percent.

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Speaker 9: I think some only you would know something judging the numbers,

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Speaker 9: quite like the gluten free base.

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Speaker 2: With your caramel flavored Bailey's and your gluten free pizza base.

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Speaker 9: And it wasn't Karen will flavored Bailey's. It was pavlover flavored.

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Speaker 9: Where are you getting the caramel?

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Speaker 2: We probably got weird feet as well. Seventeen away from nine.

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Speaker 1: The High Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered

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Speaker 1: by News Talks A.

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Speaker 2: B Yeah, A quick thing ironic might that? Chris Hipkins

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Speaker 2: criticized the board members remuneration. Chris Hopkins is barking at cars,

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Speaker 2: he said. He wouldn't bark at cars, but he is

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Speaker 2: barking at cars. And the worst barking at car was

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Speaker 2: over the weekend after they announced the government announced there's

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Speaker 2: clamping of cars for unpaid court fines, and he came

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Speaker 2: out and said he was against it based on the

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Speaker 2: fact that people might find themselves abandoned if they got

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Speaker 2: pulled over and the car got clamped. Where would they go.

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Speaker 2: He didn't know where they would go or how they

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Speaker 2: would get home, so he was worried about them. So

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01:22:04,160 --> 01:22:06,200
Speaker 2: that's the sort of nonsense he's into. Anyway, the point

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Speaker 2: being it's at a very interesting moment in time, because

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Speaker 2: this is why you wouldn't have seen it. But yesterday

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Speaker 2: post the cabinet, Nicola Willis turns up with the Prime

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Speaker 2: Minister and she starts for what seemed like an eternity

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Speaker 2: to explain to us how the economy was going, why

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Speaker 2: things are getting better, why we've turned the corner. You

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01:22:25,760 --> 01:22:27,479
Speaker 2: can't believe how things are good are going to get

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Speaker 2: and just let me list the eight hundred and fifty

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Speaker 2: seven thousand things we've done since we've been in government

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01:22:32,640 --> 01:22:34,200
Speaker 2: to make things better for you. And I thought, what

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01:22:34,280 --> 01:22:36,000
Speaker 2: the hell is all this about. In fact, everyone in

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01:22:36,040 --> 01:22:37,599
Speaker 2: the room thought, what the hell is all this about?

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Speaker 2: So they're clearly worried, and they're worried for obvious reasons,

1766
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Speaker 2: because we're at this point in time, I think, where

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01:22:46,720 --> 01:22:49,040
Speaker 2: a large number of New Zealanders are starting to question

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01:22:49,160 --> 01:22:52,760
Speaker 2: the government and returns on investment. In other words, they're going,

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Speaker 2: are these people the real deal? Are things going to work?

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Speaker 2: And it's all predicated on the idea that things were

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Speaker 2: going to come right in twenty twenty five, and we're

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Speaker 2: all set together. If that had happened, they'd be home free.

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Speaker 2: You'd be bolting into twenty twenty six election year going

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01:23:06,400 --> 01:23:08,040
Speaker 2: they're going to get a second term all day long.

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Speaker 2: We're not saying that, and we're not saying that because

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01:23:10,240 --> 01:23:12,400
Speaker 2: twenty twenty five hasn't turned out the way they said

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01:23:12,439 --> 01:23:14,760
Speaker 2: it would the way a lot of people said it would.

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01:23:15,200 --> 01:23:17,639
Speaker 2: It may well yet, because it's still only July going

1779
01:23:17,680 --> 01:23:21,439
Speaker 2: into August, but you can tell they're worried, and we're

1780
01:23:21,520 --> 01:23:25,679
Speaker 2: at this pinch point where a lot of what Hopkins

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01:23:25,720 --> 01:23:29,200
Speaker 2: and co. Say, they're relying on you forgetting what happened

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01:23:29,280 --> 01:23:32,320
Speaker 2: last time when they're in power. They're thinking that you're

1783
01:23:33,320 --> 01:23:37,440
Speaker 2: just a bit upset, a bit tight for money, but aggrieved,

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01:23:37,840 --> 01:23:39,720
Speaker 2: and you might be ready to listen to a bit

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01:23:39,800 --> 01:23:42,479
Speaker 2: of what they've got to say, and you might be

1786
01:23:42,560 --> 01:23:44,479
Speaker 2: a bit open to the idea that this government are

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01:23:44,479 --> 01:23:46,360
Speaker 2: a bit crap and that's where we're at. So that

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Speaker 2: I run the three year thing, and that is that

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Speaker 2: a government has three years to do whatever they want,

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Speaker 2: then they go to the election and go there it is.

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Speaker 2: That's what we've done, this is what we're about. Vote

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Speaker 2: for us again. But I don't know that many people

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01:23:58,600 --> 01:24:01,880
Speaker 2: are that patient. Soeen months and I think Labor are

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01:24:01,920 --> 01:24:04,720
Speaker 2: banking on this business of I think I can tap

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01:24:04,760 --> 01:24:08,800
Speaker 2: into some of your upset and sell you' something the

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01:24:08,880 --> 01:24:11,560
Speaker 2: Labor Party might be offering come twenty twenty six. And

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Speaker 2: that's what makes at the moment so interesting, Mike. I

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Speaker 2: take my hat off to the ladies ruling themselves out

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Speaker 2: of the silver ferns with professional netball in New Zealand,

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Speaker 2: appearing to be on the cusp of no go. I

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Speaker 2: would do the same. I don't know if you want

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01:24:23,960 --> 01:24:26,000
Speaker 2: to take your hat off to them, but I've become

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01:24:26,040 --> 01:24:28,120
Speaker 2: fascinated in the last couple of weeks with netball because

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01:24:28,120 --> 01:24:29,720
Speaker 2: we had Matt Winner a on who's the chair of

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01:24:29,760 --> 01:24:31,360
Speaker 2: the board the other day and he was I mean,

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01:24:31,400 --> 01:24:33,320
Speaker 2: he couldn't have been more bullish, could he. If you

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01:24:33,360 --> 01:24:35,960
Speaker 2: didn't know anything about netball, you'd think that netball was booming.

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01:24:36,720 --> 01:24:40,559
Speaker 2: Turns out Matt was making it up or I don't

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01:24:40,560 --> 01:24:41,960
Speaker 2: know what he's doing. I mean, he's a hell of

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01:24:41,960 --> 01:24:45,160
Speaker 2: a nice guy, Matt. But you look at the final.

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Speaker 2: It's played at Trust Stadium, which has got five thousand macs.

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01:24:50,000 --> 01:24:53,400
Speaker 2: The ratings clearly on television a crap because they haven't

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01:24:53,400 --> 01:24:54,439
Speaker 2: got a broadcasting deal.

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Speaker 9: He see that viewership was through the roof, I think

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01:24:56,840 --> 01:24:57,800
Speaker 9: was his phrase, wasn't it?

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Speaker 2: And it was probably through the roof at Trust Arena

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01:24:59,640 --> 01:25:02,320
Speaker 2: with one thousand people. It's probably probably depends what roof

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01:25:02,360 --> 01:25:05,479
Speaker 2: you're looking at. But you've got players not coming back,

1819
01:25:06,080 --> 01:25:10,679
Speaker 2: You've got teams openly questioning the future of the sport

1820
01:25:10,680 --> 01:25:15,040
Speaker 2: at professional level. Something is not right in netball Land

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01:25:15,360 --> 01:25:17,439
Speaker 2: and I'm you know, we raised it with the lads

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01:25:17,520 --> 01:25:20,519
Speaker 2: yesterday in the commentary box, but they sort of. I mean,

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01:25:20,640 --> 01:25:23,080
Speaker 2: it's an exciting game to watch, is it. I always

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01:25:23,120 --> 01:25:26,680
Speaker 2: find it engaging. It's certainly a great participation sport. I

1825
01:25:26,760 --> 01:25:28,720
Speaker 2: don't know that two point idea is the best idea

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01:25:28,760 --> 01:25:31,639
Speaker 2: they've ever had. But nevertheless, things aren't good. Nine minutes

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Speaker 2: away from nine.

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Speaker 1: The Mic Hosking Breakfast with the land Rover, Discovery News,

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Speaker 1: tomstad Be.

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Speaker 2: Mike itch Hear and tickets have just gone on sale already.

1831
01:25:39,680 --> 01:25:41,439
Speaker 2: An extra show has been added to christ Church and

1832
01:25:41,560 --> 01:25:44,519
Speaker 2: Auckland because of overwhelming demand. Kiwis are opening the wallets again.

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01:25:44,600 --> 01:25:47,479
Speaker 2: Now I disagree. I think that an edge here and

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01:25:47,520 --> 01:25:49,000
Speaker 2: this has been the story. I mean, that's why people

1835
01:25:49,040 --> 01:25:52,599
Speaker 2: go on holiday in a cost of living crisis alleged

1836
01:25:53,080 --> 01:25:55,040
Speaker 2: you've got a two You've got a two speed economy.

1837
01:25:55,080 --> 01:25:57,599
Speaker 2: In this country, people have always been buying concert tickets.

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01:25:57,640 --> 01:26:00,000
Speaker 2: Concert tickets haven't been an issue. Airline tickets haven't been

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01:26:00,000 --> 01:26:02,200
Speaker 2: an issue. People going on holidays haven't been an issue.

1840
01:26:02,560 --> 01:26:05,080
Speaker 2: People buying gluten free basis on their pizza hasn't been

1841
01:26:05,080 --> 01:26:08,000
Speaker 2: an issue. My father, Micaus eighty seven, he's called every

1842
01:26:08,040 --> 01:26:11,240
Speaker 2: election bar winnies, faux pa. He reckons, Luction's rolled by Christmas.

1843
01:26:11,280 --> 01:26:13,920
Speaker 2: I'll take that bet all day long. Luxton's solid ass.

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01:26:14,800 --> 01:26:18,519
Speaker 2: He'll go to the election, mark my words. I read

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01:26:18,600 --> 01:26:21,120
Speaker 2: an article yesterday, just a couple of food warnings for you.

1846
01:26:21,479 --> 01:26:23,360
Speaker 2: Written article yesterday under the headline We've got to do

1847
01:26:23,400 --> 01:26:25,920
Speaker 2: something about this. In the media, headline was is decaf

1848
01:26:26,040 --> 01:26:28,280
Speaker 2: coffee really the better option for your health? Question mark?

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01:26:28,320 --> 01:26:29,280
Speaker 2: Good question? Fair question?

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01:26:29,479 --> 01:26:29,640
Speaker 6: Is it?

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01:26:29,840 --> 01:26:33,280
Speaker 2: I wanted to know? Read the article doesn't answer the question? Well,

1852
01:26:33,400 --> 01:26:36,280
Speaker 2: it was pissed me off. They said all that stuff

1853
01:26:36,320 --> 01:26:38,000
Speaker 2: about coffee that we already know that's good for you.

1854
01:26:38,160 --> 01:26:40,800
Speaker 2: They didn't answer the question, is decaf still good for you?

1855
01:26:41,320 --> 01:26:43,200
Speaker 2: There's a match a shortage if you're not aware of it.

1856
01:26:43,680 --> 01:26:46,920
Speaker 2: The problem is that they've had some heat. There's also

1857
01:26:46,960 --> 01:26:49,320
Speaker 2: a huge demand on match around the world. The process

1858
01:26:49,720 --> 01:26:53,559
Speaker 2: heat crops her down, prices her up. It's the usual story,

1859
01:26:54,479 --> 01:26:58,639
Speaker 2: like electricity in New Zealand until the atmospheric river arrives

1860
01:26:58,640 --> 01:27:01,679
Speaker 2: and solves everything, apparently. And the other one is cottage cheese.

1861
01:27:02,160 --> 01:27:04,080
Speaker 2: Global shortage of cottage cheese. So what have we got?

1862
01:27:04,080 --> 01:27:07,280
Speaker 2: We've got chocolates a problem. Coffee is a problem. Olive

1863
01:27:07,320 --> 01:27:10,599
Speaker 2: oil was a problem. I don't know there's anymore. Matches

1864
01:27:10,640 --> 01:27:13,880
Speaker 2: a problem. But cottage cheese is also a problem. Cottage

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01:27:13,920 --> 01:27:16,320
Speaker 2: cheese you just make, of course, there's no you don't

1866
01:27:16,320 --> 01:27:19,120
Speaker 2: need to like match, you don't need to grow tea.

1867
01:27:19,840 --> 01:27:21,800
Speaker 2: You just make cottage cheese. But the problem is the

1868
01:27:21,840 --> 01:27:24,439
Speaker 2: people who make cottage cheese can't keep up with demand.

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01:27:25,800 --> 01:27:26,840
Speaker 2: That's once again TikTok.

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01:27:26,880 --> 01:27:28,160
Speaker 9: Did you make cottag cheese at school?

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01:27:29,520 --> 01:27:29,880
Speaker 6: We did?

1872
01:27:30,160 --> 01:27:32,200
Speaker 2: Of course, you do what for?

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01:27:34,040 --> 01:27:35,679
Speaker 9: I mean, why do you do anything at school?

1874
01:27:35,920 --> 01:27:38,800
Speaker 2: Fair question? So and you take it home to mum

1875
01:27:38,880 --> 01:27:39,479
Speaker 2: and go mum.

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01:27:39,479 --> 01:27:41,439
Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, yeah, And did you eat it?

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01:27:41,880 --> 01:27:42,080
Speaker 13: Yeah?

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01:27:42,120 --> 01:27:47,639
Speaker 2: I think that disgusting. It's an interesting question. Cottage cheese

1879
01:27:47,760 --> 01:27:51,400
Speaker 2: is disgusting. No, I think you're wrong on that one, Okay,

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01:27:51,479 --> 01:27:53,280
Speaker 2: especially if you put it on your gluten free pizza.

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01:27:53,280 --> 01:27:55,479
Speaker 2: Based from Domino's five minutes Away from nine.

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01:27:56,520 --> 01:28:01,120
Speaker 3: Trending now, Well, he's healthy all.

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01:28:01,040 --> 01:28:04,519
Speaker 2: Years, shortage as well. Glynn. By the way, off, he

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01:28:04,600 --> 01:28:07,519
Speaker 2: did confume he has weird weird feet, just to just

1885
01:28:07,600 --> 01:28:09,040
Speaker 2: to round that off. I see a bitch, he have

1886
01:28:09,120 --> 01:28:10,479
Speaker 2: weird feet, and since he does.

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01:28:10,560 --> 01:28:12,880
Speaker 9: Yeah, they're wider. They're almost wider than they are long.

1888
01:28:13,120 --> 01:28:14,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, I knew it.

1889
01:28:15,080 --> 01:28:17,680
Speaker 9: So my shoes are always flopping just looking at you.

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01:28:17,880 --> 01:28:18,439
Speaker 2: I knew it.

1891
01:28:19,640 --> 01:28:24,800
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01:28:24,960 --> 01:28:28,960
Speaker 2: Well Epstein update from Turnbury. He was asked again, he

1893
01:28:29,040 --> 01:28:30,920
Speaker 2: kicked him out of Mary Lago. Didn't speak to him

1894
01:28:30,920 --> 01:28:33,200
Speaker 2: for years, apparently after a deal went bad at that point,

1895
01:28:33,240 --> 01:28:35,440
Speaker 2: as press staff probably wished he'd stopped.

1896
01:28:36,160 --> 01:28:36,559
Speaker 3: By the way.

1897
01:28:36,600 --> 01:28:39,320
Speaker 4: I never went to the island, and Bill Clinton went

1898
01:28:39,360 --> 01:28:45,080
Speaker 4: there supposedly twenty eight times. I never went to the island.

1899
01:28:45,160 --> 01:28:47,280
Speaker 4: But Larry Summers, I hear went there. He was the

1900
01:28:47,360 --> 01:28:50,200
Speaker 4: head of Harvard and many other people that are very

1901
01:28:50,240 --> 01:28:50,639
Speaker 4: big people.

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01:28:50,760 --> 01:28:52,040
Speaker 3: Nobody ever talks about them.

1903
01:28:52,560 --> 01:28:55,160
Speaker 4: I never had the privilege of going to his island,

1904
01:28:56,160 --> 01:28:57,760
Speaker 4: and I did turn it down, but a lot of

1905
01:28:57,800 --> 01:29:01,280
Speaker 4: people in Palm Beach were invited to his island. In

1906
01:29:01,400 --> 01:29:03,720
Speaker 4: one of my very good moments, I turned it down.

1907
01:29:03,840 --> 01:29:08,120
Speaker 2: I didn't want to go to a sailing puel. Otherwise

1908
01:29:08,120 --> 01:29:11,760
Speaker 2: it would turn into a conspiracy theory, wouldn't it. And

1909
01:29:11,880 --> 01:29:15,400
Speaker 2: we'd need PAM and the DOJ to interview Juselle and

1910
01:29:15,920 --> 01:29:17,439
Speaker 2: get some immunity going.

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Speaker 9: And for someone who hasn't seen the files, doesn't know

1912
01:29:20,160 --> 01:29:21,920
Speaker 9: much about the files, has got no interest in the files,

1913
01:29:21,960 --> 01:29:23,439
Speaker 9: he seems to know a lot about those files.

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Speaker 2: Also hasn't even thought about issuing any sort of immunity.

1915
01:29:27,680 --> 01:29:30,600
Speaker 2: Incredible the amount of time that they're spending in his

1916
01:29:30,720 --> 01:29:32,920
Speaker 2: head at the moment. He cheats at golf too. By

1917
01:29:32,920 --> 01:29:34,200
Speaker 2: the way, if you haven't seen the video, have a

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01:29:34,240 --> 01:29:36,240
Speaker 2: look at the video. It's going off. Look at the

1919
01:29:36,280 --> 01:29:38,240
Speaker 2: guy dropping the ball. I mean, the whole thing's just

1920
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Speaker 2: if it wasn't real, it'd be funny. Back tomorrow morning

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Speaker 2: from six on The Mike Asking Breakfast, Happy Days.

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Speaker 1: For more from the Mike Asking Breakfast, listen live to

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