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Speaker 1: The Resource Management Actors from nineteen ninety one. That's about

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Speaker 1: as long as we've been complaining about it. Tomorrow, the

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Speaker 1: big revamp of the rules will be announced. Alan McDonald,

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Speaker 1: as the head of advocacy for the Employer's Manufacturers Association,

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Speaker 1: joins us tonight.

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Speaker 2: Ellen, good evening. Hi, Ryan, have you seen this? Have

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Speaker 2: you been given a little heads up?

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Speaker 3: I've been working on this thing for eight years now,

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Speaker 3: so we've been working fairly closely with MFE and various

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Speaker 3: ministers along the way. So yes, I've seen what's in it,

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Speaker 3: but I can't talk about it yet.

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Speaker 1: I understand that. But can you give us this Is

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Speaker 1: it going to be a blockbuster? Is this going to

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Speaker 1: be a bazooka or is it going to be more

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Speaker 1: tankering around the edges?

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Speaker 3: Definitely the bazooka.

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Speaker 2: What's changing, Well, the old.

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Speaker 3: System is cumbersome, slow, inefficient, uncertain and very expensive and

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Speaker 3: the new system, if it works well, will be none

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Speaker 3: of those. And also the old system didn't actually protect

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Speaker 3: the environment, and we had the Environmental Defense Society prove

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Speaker 3: that for us about seven or eight years ago. So

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Speaker 3: the new one will have an enforcement agency and national standards.

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Speaker 3: So the councilors can't sort of add their own seventy

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Speaker 3: different interpretations of it, so hopefully it will also hopefully

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Speaker 3: it will I think give better protection to the environment.

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Speaker 3: Many people will not agree with that.

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Speaker 2: Can you get yeah, well that's true. Can you give

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Speaker 2: us an example of how bad the IRMA is right now?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I can give you two really good ones. So

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Speaker 3: we've got a member who builds two bedroom beach batches

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Speaker 3: to be used in the white catto. There are nine

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Speaker 3: councils in the way catto. These things are identical. They

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Speaker 3: plug in at one end and everything flows out the

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Speaker 3: other end. He can have anywhere from about thirty or

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Speaker 3: forty pages of compliance up to something that looks like

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Speaker 3: about an inch and a half thick. So that's one

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Speaker 3: example of how inefficient it is. One of our other

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Speaker 3: members who runs a sawmill, very successful one down on

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Speaker 3: the Bay of twenty wanted to expand a building on

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Speaker 3: his site. So it's got all the air discharge, water discharge,

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Speaker 3: has kem all of those things. It's already got those

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Speaker 3: existing commissions. Quarter of a million dollars to get a

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Speaker 3: consent just to expand the building on the site where

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Speaker 3: he's already doing all that stuff. It's just ridiculous.

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Speaker 2: Makes you blood boil. Tomorrow it's all over. We live

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Speaker 2: in Hope, Alan McDonald, head of advocacy for the AMA.

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