1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:04,280 Speaker 1: The huddle with New Zealand Southeby's International Realty, local and 2 00:00:04,360 --> 00:00:06,480 Speaker 1: global exposure like no other. 3 00:00:06,640 --> 00:00:11,200 Speaker 2: Huddle this evening Nick Mills and Mark Sainsbury Journalist Mark 4 00:00:11,200 --> 00:00:14,480 Speaker 2: Sainsbury and Nick Mills of Corses Newstalks he Be's Wellington 5 00:00:14,560 --> 00:00:19,120 Speaker 2: Morning's hosts got accord to it. Sure, So Nick, let's 6 00:00:19,160 --> 00:00:22,279 Speaker 2: start with you. Is diplomatic community in this instance from 7 00:00:22,280 --> 00:00:25,400 Speaker 2: what we understand, fair well. 8 00:00:25,520 --> 00:00:27,840 Speaker 3: Mark and I go back a long long when we 9 00:00:27,880 --> 00:00:31,000 Speaker 3: will remember so many incidents like this that have happened 10 00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:34,199 Speaker 3: in Wellington in the past forty or fifty years, and 11 00:00:34,360 --> 00:00:36,800 Speaker 3: I've always not liked it. It's a part of his 12 00:00:36,960 --> 00:00:39,960 Speaker 3: that could be cleaned up and changed. This guy will 13 00:00:39,960 --> 00:00:42,360 Speaker 3: sneakily be sent back to Australia and the whole thing 14 00:00:42,400 --> 00:00:45,440 Speaker 3: will be pushed under a rug. That's what generally happens. 15 00:00:45,640 --> 00:00:48,159 Speaker 3: It's not a good thing. And this must be a 16 00:00:48,200 --> 00:00:52,880 Speaker 3: reasonably serious potential assault charge for the police to even 17 00:00:52,920 --> 00:00:56,160 Speaker 3: be bringing it forward. So yeah, I don't like it. 18 00:00:56,200 --> 00:00:57,800 Speaker 3: I think it should be it's a thing of the 19 00:00:57,840 --> 00:01:02,400 Speaker 3: past to stop people being arrested and terrorized and stuff 20 00:01:02,440 --> 00:01:04,240 Speaker 3: like that, and I don't think that it should be 21 00:01:04,240 --> 00:01:05,960 Speaker 3: happening in the modern world, if you break the law 22 00:01:05,959 --> 00:01:08,360 Speaker 3: in the country, if you're a visitor, I don't care 23 00:01:08,400 --> 00:01:10,759 Speaker 3: who the hell you are. Let's five oh one them, 24 00:01:10,760 --> 00:01:11,399 Speaker 3: I send them home. 25 00:01:11,560 --> 00:01:14,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, but wouldn't that be potentially risky for some of 26 00:01:14,200 --> 00:01:15,480 Speaker 2: our diplomats overseas? 27 00:01:15,520 --> 00:01:19,319 Speaker 3: Mark, Yes. And look, one of the things that I 28 00:01:19,400 --> 00:01:21,120 Speaker 3: really want to know, and I tried looking this up 29 00:01:21,560 --> 00:01:24,679 Speaker 3: this afternoon, was have we ever been asked and refused 30 00:01:24,720 --> 00:01:26,920 Speaker 3: the way diplomatic immunity? Yeah? 31 00:01:27,040 --> 00:01:29,640 Speaker 2: Good, good question, because. 32 00:01:29,240 --> 00:01:32,280 Speaker 3: I understand and there's certain regimes you know, well Jack 33 00:01:32,360 --> 00:01:36,280 Speaker 3: that where it's necessary, maybe regimes are the less be 34 00:01:36,400 --> 00:01:40,440 Speaker 3: nine than our own. In fact, where you do need 35 00:01:40,480 --> 00:01:44,080 Speaker 3: to be able to survive, you do need that immunity. 36 00:01:44,360 --> 00:01:47,520 Speaker 3: But this is someone that at three thirty in the morning, 37 00:01:47,600 --> 00:01:49,760 Speaker 3: where they dreaming that we have a wild stab at 38 00:01:49,760 --> 00:01:54,120 Speaker 3: that there's something too, totally different sort of it's antisocial, 39 00:01:54,240 --> 00:01:57,400 Speaker 3: it's nothing to do with their job. Yeah, and it 40 00:01:57,560 --> 00:02:01,760 Speaker 3: really annoys you, you know, it really gets on your 41 00:02:01,800 --> 00:02:04,400 Speaker 3: goat when you sort of see this happened. Yeah, example, 42 00:02:04,560 --> 00:02:07,560 Speaker 3: So you know, it'd be interesting to see how Australia. 43 00:02:08,240 --> 00:02:11,400 Speaker 3: It's already right over the Australian press, so see, Yeah, 44 00:02:11,760 --> 00:02:14,480 Speaker 3: so it's going to be quite interesting how they respond, 45 00:02:14,520 --> 00:02:18,320 Speaker 3: because is it some reason for not waiting immunity? I 46 00:02:18,360 --> 00:02:18,880 Speaker 3: don't think so. 47 00:02:19,120 --> 00:02:21,440 Speaker 2: Well, no, it's embarrassing. 48 00:02:21,800 --> 00:02:24,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, Jack is an old saying that nothing good happens 49 00:02:24,440 --> 00:02:26,240 Speaker 3: after three point thirty in the morning, So he should 50 00:02:26,240 --> 00:02:27,000 Speaker 3: have been tucked up with it. 51 00:02:27,560 --> 00:02:30,400 Speaker 2: It's not saying that nothing good happens after about eleven pm, 52 00:02:30,560 --> 00:02:30,840 Speaker 2: isn't it. 53 00:02:32,680 --> 00:02:34,919 Speaker 3: I just I like, I like the three o'clock. 54 00:02:35,120 --> 00:02:36,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you want to have a little bit of 55 00:02:36,400 --> 00:02:37,840 Speaker 2: a little bit of rigger room there. I mean, I 56 00:02:37,919 --> 00:02:40,760 Speaker 2: just maybe it's easier for me me to say this, 57 00:02:40,919 --> 00:02:43,040 Speaker 2: having not been in an altercation at three o'clock in 58 00:02:43,040 --> 00:02:45,600 Speaker 2: the morning and found myself in the south. But I 59 00:02:45,680 --> 00:02:48,680 Speaker 2: just think I'd be too embarrassed. I'd be so embarrassed 60 00:02:48,680 --> 00:02:51,280 Speaker 2: to go to the police and say, oh no, I'm 61 00:02:51,320 --> 00:02:54,359 Speaker 2: going to use my diplomatic community. Maybe you know, that's 62 00:02:54,520 --> 00:02:56,840 Speaker 2: the decision that one can only make when one finds 63 00:02:57,200 --> 00:02:59,799 Speaker 2: oneself and such a situation. So make what do you 64 00:02:59,840 --> 00:03:01,200 Speaker 2: make the vice presidential debate? 65 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:04,920 Speaker 3: Well, yeah, look, gee, you and I are starting to 66 00:03:04,919 --> 00:03:06,480 Speaker 3: think so much alike. It getting to be a bit 67 00:03:06,480 --> 00:03:09,239 Speaker 3: of a worried Jack. Yeah, look, I thought that Vance 68 00:03:09,280 --> 00:03:13,040 Speaker 3: had the motional loose Yeah, and he and he came 69 00:03:13,080 --> 00:03:16,640 Speaker 3: across by not being an absolute loser. I was surprised, 70 00:03:16,720 --> 00:03:19,640 Speaker 3: how nervyer. But Tim wall see, you know, he got 71 00:03:19,639 --> 00:03:22,920 Speaker 3: a little bit sort of got things complated a couple 72 00:03:22,960 --> 00:03:27,160 Speaker 3: of times. But I still think, you know, he certainly, 73 00:03:27,200 --> 00:03:30,360 Speaker 3: he certainly warmed up. The most interesting thing for me, 74 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:33,160 Speaker 3: of course, is this, do you know who Charles Curtis is? 75 00:03:33,400 --> 00:03:37,520 Speaker 3: For any chance, Charles Curtis, at nineteen thirty three was 76 00:03:37,520 --> 00:03:39,960 Speaker 3: the last American vice president to have a beard? 77 00:03:40,240 --> 00:03:43,080 Speaker 2: Oh? Yes, No, this is the kind of analysis we 78 00:03:43,080 --> 00:03:47,360 Speaker 2: pay you the big bucks for. Yeah, I mean, I 79 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:49,800 Speaker 2: you're right, I mean Jadie Vance, I think, yeah, I 80 00:03:49,840 --> 00:03:52,880 Speaker 2: think all by us aside, regardless of your views, I 81 00:03:52,880 --> 00:03:55,400 Speaker 2: think Jadie Varans was clearly the better performer. But Nick, 82 00:03:55,680 --> 00:03:57,640 Speaker 2: is this really going to shift the race at all? 83 00:03:57,680 --> 00:03:58,240 Speaker 2: What do you think? 84 00:03:58,920 --> 00:04:01,360 Speaker 3: Well, I've always felt that a little bit of a 85 00:04:01,360 --> 00:04:05,080 Speaker 3: smooth talker, slick slick Harry type guy. You know, he 86 00:04:05,200 --> 00:04:08,400 Speaker 3: just almost could be one of Donald Trump's sons, couldn't it. 87 00:04:08,440 --> 00:04:09,880 Speaker 3: You know what I mean? It's kind of like so 88 00:04:09,920 --> 00:04:12,000 Speaker 3: I've never kind of I just don't jelled for him. 89 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:14,520 Speaker 3: Where too els to me, looks like the next door 90 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:16,520 Speaker 3: the old next door neighbor that's mowing the lawns on 91 00:04:16,520 --> 00:04:18,480 Speaker 3: a Sunday and says, how you're doing, and you're okay? 92 00:04:18,600 --> 00:04:19,360 Speaker 3: Is everything all right? 93 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:20,040 Speaker 1: You know what I mean? 94 00:04:20,200 --> 00:04:23,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that's the as I get from him. It's 95 00:04:23,560 --> 00:04:25,480 Speaker 3: not going to make any difference at all. I mean, 96 00:04:25,520 --> 00:04:28,279 Speaker 3: who kids are, Damn? Who the who the vice captain is? 97 00:04:28,360 --> 00:04:31,400 Speaker 3: Who gives a ten? Damn who's the vice principal is? 98 00:04:31,560 --> 00:04:32,719 Speaker 3: We only want the top dogs. 99 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:34,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, all right, we'll be back with a huddle 100 00:04:34,720 --> 00:04:36,599 Speaker 2: in a couple of minutes, Nick Mels and Mark Sainsbury. 101 00:04:36,680 --> 00:04:38,240 Speaker 2: Right now, it's fourteen to six. 102 00:04:38,839 --> 00:04:42,560 Speaker 1: The Huddle with New Zealand Southby's International Realty elevate the 103 00:04:42,600 --> 00:04:43,920 Speaker 1: marketing of your home. 104 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:46,640 Speaker 2: On the Huddle this evening, Nick Mills and Mark Sainsbury. Well, 105 00:04:46,720 --> 00:04:50,839 Speaker 2: the attentions in the Middle East certainly aren't calling off 106 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:53,240 Speaker 2: in any way, shape or form. The run last night 107 00:04:53,279 --> 00:04:56,400 Speaker 2: launching strikes on Israel. Nick, how do you see this ending? 108 00:04:56,520 --> 00:04:57,719 Speaker 2: Or are we just stuck in a cycle? 109 00:04:58,760 --> 00:05:01,160 Speaker 3: I mean, at the end of it, there's two conflicting 110 00:05:01,200 --> 00:05:04,440 Speaker 3: ideologies that just absolutely hate each other. I mean, that's 111 00:05:04,640 --> 00:05:06,760 Speaker 3: that's the bottom line. I mean, we all want the 112 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:08,640 Speaker 3: same thing, peace in the Middle East. We're not going 113 00:05:08,640 --> 00:05:11,760 Speaker 3: to get it. I think I was really interested in 114 00:05:11,800 --> 00:05:13,760 Speaker 3: the guest that you had on earlier that said talk. 115 00:05:13,800 --> 00:05:16,400 Speaker 3: He was talking America. They're in an election cycle, so 116 00:05:16,440 --> 00:05:18,560 Speaker 3: they're not It's going to take a real major push 117 00:05:18,600 --> 00:05:20,440 Speaker 3: for them to get involved. But one thing that I 118 00:05:20,480 --> 00:05:23,679 Speaker 3: read today that really concerned me is seven hundred thousand 119 00:05:23,760 --> 00:05:26,279 Speaker 3: Americans living in Israels. I don't know whether you knew that, 120 00:05:26,320 --> 00:05:29,520 Speaker 3: but that's a big number. And if something starts to 121 00:05:29,560 --> 00:05:32,680 Speaker 3: look like they're going to be affected affected, well, of 122 00:05:32,680 --> 00:05:35,600 Speaker 3: course America will have to jump in. Usays are only 123 00:05:35,760 --> 00:05:39,760 Speaker 3: only hope of any even slightly toning it down. But 124 00:05:39,800 --> 00:05:42,600 Speaker 3: if we don't tone it down, God help us all. 125 00:05:42,760 --> 00:05:45,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's hard not to feel pretty pessimistic about the 126 00:05:45,320 --> 00:05:46,320 Speaker 2: whole situation. Sanzo. 127 00:05:47,600 --> 00:05:50,919 Speaker 3: Yeah. Look, I wake up this morning and we watched 128 00:05:50,920 --> 00:05:54,400 Speaker 3: it tend on the BBC, just looking for live coverage 129 00:05:54,400 --> 00:05:56,200 Speaker 3: out of there is It's just one of those moments 130 00:05:56,200 --> 00:05:58,120 Speaker 3: I think, where is this going to go? You know, 131 00:05:58,640 --> 00:06:00,760 Speaker 3: it's also another moment I think, thank God we live 132 00:06:00,800 --> 00:06:03,320 Speaker 3: where we do, and it gets out of control. But 133 00:06:03,720 --> 00:06:05,919 Speaker 3: you sort of think, what is the endgame? Where is 134 00:06:05,920 --> 00:06:09,799 Speaker 3: the way out of this? Have two sides effectively wanting 135 00:06:09,880 --> 00:06:14,240 Speaker 3: to destroy each other, you know, has Balan remasks and 136 00:06:14,400 --> 00:06:17,600 Speaker 3: don't even accept the existence of Israel. You sort of go, Okay, 137 00:06:17,760 --> 00:06:19,880 Speaker 3: that's our starting point. Where do we go to from here? 138 00:06:19,920 --> 00:06:22,679 Speaker 3: But yet, yeah, and we watch this a humanitarian crisis 139 00:06:22,760 --> 00:06:26,719 Speaker 3: unfolding in Gaza, and you just feel you just feel 140 00:06:26,760 --> 00:06:28,800 Speaker 3: like a hopeless to be honest, det sort of watching 141 00:06:28,839 --> 00:06:32,360 Speaker 3: this sort of there's nothing we can do, yea, and yeah, 142 00:06:32,400 --> 00:06:35,240 Speaker 3: and and and and look at I mean Nick Yahoo 143 00:06:35,600 --> 00:06:38,160 Speaker 3: all the way through. I mean, you know, he's made 144 00:06:38,360 --> 00:06:41,400 Speaker 3: to stand there. They keeps him out of prison. And 145 00:06:41,440 --> 00:06:43,320 Speaker 3: that's and that's not to take anything away from the 146 00:06:43,320 --> 00:06:46,239 Speaker 3: atrocities that were foised on the on the Israeli people 147 00:06:46,760 --> 00:06:49,559 Speaker 3: starting in Octoger, but it just this just goes on 148 00:06:50,120 --> 00:06:53,440 Speaker 3: and on and you think, I just do not know 149 00:06:53,480 --> 00:06:54,719 Speaker 3: how it's going to resolve it stuff. 150 00:06:54,800 --> 00:06:56,880 Speaker 2: No, No, it's pretty you've. 151 00:06:56,800 --> 00:06:58,760 Speaker 3: Thought it out in twenty four hours of course. 152 00:06:59,200 --> 00:07:01,840 Speaker 2: Apart from that, Yes, yeah, all right, guys, thanks for 153 00:07:01,839 --> 00:07:07,920 Speaker 2: your time. On that cheery note, Mark Sainsbury and Nick Mills. 154 00:07:06,800 --> 00:07:10,000 Speaker 1: For more from Hither Duplessy Allen Drive. 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