1 00:00:07,133 --> 00:00:10,453 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Saturday Morning with Jack Team podcast 2 00:00:10,573 --> 00:00:11,733 Speaker 1: from News Talks at be. 3 00:00:27,173 --> 00:00:33,093 Speaker 2: Snakes. Where is it the Sison? 4 00:00:33,853 --> 00:00:39,053 Speaker 3: This is Chapel roan hotly anticipated new track off the 5 00:00:39,093 --> 00:00:42,373 Speaker 3: back of one of the craziest years of Chapel Rohan's life. 6 00:00:42,413 --> 00:00:45,133 Speaker 3: So she blew up. She was everywhere. It's been kind 7 00:00:45,133 --> 00:00:48,453 Speaker 3: of hard to escape her, and she isn't stopping twenty 8 00:00:48,453 --> 00:00:50,573 Speaker 3: four to ten on News Talks, he'd be time to 9 00:00:50,573 --> 00:00:52,973 Speaker 3: catch up with our film review of Francesca Rudkin for 10 00:00:53,013 --> 00:00:56,333 Speaker 3: her picks this weekend More than a Good Morning. Okay, 11 00:00:56,413 --> 00:00:59,053 Speaker 3: two very different kind of films for us today, which 12 00:00:59,093 --> 00:01:00,973 Speaker 3: is a great thing. Let's start off with the film 13 00:01:01,053 --> 00:01:03,933 Speaker 3: opening the New Zealand International Film Festival, tell us about 14 00:01:04,013 --> 00:01:05,653 Speaker 3: It was just an accident. 15 00:01:06,453 --> 00:01:08,533 Speaker 2: This is a film by Jaffa Panahee and he is 16 00:01:08,573 --> 00:01:15,333 Speaker 2: an Iranian filmmaker. He makes very heartful, heart felt human 17 00:01:15,493 --> 00:01:18,613 Speaker 2: stories about life in Iran. He calls them social films. 18 00:01:19,053 --> 00:01:22,453 Speaker 2: The rating calls them proper Canada against the system. He 19 00:01:22,533 --> 00:01:27,653 Speaker 2: has been imprisoned twice. First in he was on his own. 20 00:01:27,693 --> 00:01:29,973 Speaker 2: The second time he was with a group of political presidents. 21 00:01:30,693 --> 00:01:33,053 Speaker 2: He's done a hunger strike here to sell his home 22 00:01:33,533 --> 00:01:38,293 Speaker 2: to make Veil. He's banned from making movies, and he's 23 00:01:38,333 --> 00:01:42,893 Speaker 2: also banned actually from talking about them, but he keeps 24 00:01:42,933 --> 00:01:46,653 Speaker 2: making films and he continues to live in Iran because 25 00:01:46,773 --> 00:01:50,773 Speaker 2: that is his home and the experience that he had 26 00:01:50,813 --> 00:01:55,333 Speaker 2: in prison has very much inspired this story. He's had 27 00:01:55,333 --> 00:01:57,733 Speaker 2: a travel band based on him for about fifteen years, 28 00:01:57,773 --> 00:01:59,693 Speaker 2: but that was lifted and he was able to travel 29 00:01:59,733 --> 00:02:03,453 Speaker 2: to France earlier in the year where this film, it 30 00:02:03,533 --> 00:02:06,893 Speaker 2: was just an accident, played in competition at a can 31 00:02:06,933 --> 00:02:09,773 Speaker 2: film festival. It won the pandor the Top prize, and 32 00:02:09,813 --> 00:02:13,093 Speaker 2: I can totally see why it is. It is entertaining, 33 00:02:13,133 --> 00:02:17,053 Speaker 2: but it's thought provoking and chilling, and it really is 34 00:02:17,293 --> 00:02:20,853 Speaker 2: quite wonderful. I just I just like to say straight up, Jack, 35 00:02:20,973 --> 00:02:23,773 Speaker 2: some people might be going an Iranian film. The last 36 00:02:23,813 --> 00:02:26,533 Speaker 2: Uanian film I watched with two and a half hours long. 37 00:02:26,573 --> 00:02:29,533 Speaker 2: Can I just say this is a really great one. 38 00:02:29,493 --> 00:02:31,013 Speaker 3: Hour forty Okay, good? 39 00:02:31,133 --> 00:02:35,693 Speaker 2: Yeah, this is the film fecial and it's a great 40 00:02:35,773 --> 00:02:37,733 Speaker 2: get for them to have the film to open. It 41 00:02:38,053 --> 00:02:40,293 Speaker 2: really is fantastic. It starts off, as I mentioned, as 42 00:02:40,293 --> 00:02:42,013 Speaker 2: a bit of a comedy. There's a lot of black humor. 43 00:02:42,653 --> 00:02:47,653 Speaker 2: He's out our main character. And one night he's working 44 00:02:47,693 --> 00:02:50,133 Speaker 2: at a garage, and one night a family breaks down 45 00:02:50,933 --> 00:02:54,093 Speaker 2: outside his garage and I ask for help. And when 46 00:02:54,173 --> 00:02:59,813 Speaker 2: he comes, when the gentleman comes in, he recognizes the 47 00:03:00,013 --> 00:03:04,253 Speaker 2: squeak of his false leg to be that of the 48 00:03:04,893 --> 00:03:08,733 Speaker 2: intelligence officer who interrogated him and talk with him while 49 00:03:08,733 --> 00:03:11,413 Speaker 2: he was in prison. And he just has this moment 50 00:03:11,733 --> 00:03:16,253 Speaker 2: and he hears his voice and hears shorts him. So 51 00:03:16,413 --> 00:03:18,813 Speaker 2: he follows him home if he lives, and then he 52 00:03:18,893 --> 00:03:20,893 Speaker 2: cannot get this out of his mind. He's closed him. 53 00:03:20,893 --> 00:03:23,333 Speaker 2: The next day and he gets an opportunity to hit 54 00:03:23,413 --> 00:03:26,053 Speaker 2: him with his band, So he hits him with his band. 55 00:03:26,133 --> 00:03:28,013 Speaker 2: He puts him in the van, and then he takes 56 00:03:28,013 --> 00:03:29,813 Speaker 2: them out to the desert where he plans to bury him. 57 00:03:29,853 --> 00:03:31,453 Speaker 2: But then he has a little moment where he goes 58 00:03:32,453 --> 00:03:34,573 Speaker 2: bearing him alive. He goes, hang on a matter, I 59 00:03:34,653 --> 00:03:37,093 Speaker 2: bet a check he is the right person. And so 60 00:03:37,253 --> 00:03:39,413 Speaker 2: then we go off on this wonderful little journey as 61 00:03:39,453 --> 00:03:43,013 Speaker 2: he picks up other political business who've been released to 62 00:03:43,093 --> 00:03:47,133 Speaker 2: try and identify his character. Is he really the intelligence 63 00:03:47,173 --> 00:03:49,613 Speaker 2: officer who ruined so many of their lives and tortures 64 00:03:49,653 --> 00:03:53,933 Speaker 2: them and things. So it's wonderfully, it's wonderfully, it's it's humorous, 65 00:03:53,933 --> 00:03:55,893 Speaker 2: and they do it does beautiful. But as the film 66 00:03:55,973 --> 00:03:57,933 Speaker 2: goes on, it gets more and more serious and it 67 00:03:58,013 --> 00:03:59,893 Speaker 2: sort of leads to this, and it becomes a bit 68 00:03:59,933 --> 00:04:01,173 Speaker 2: of a thriller and in a way a bit of 69 00:04:01,253 --> 00:04:04,293 Speaker 2: a horror, and it leads to this very tension filled 70 00:04:04,373 --> 00:04:06,773 Speaker 2: explosive in there where you're not quite sure how things 71 00:04:06,813 --> 00:04:10,013 Speaker 2: are going to go. It really is absolutely fantastic and 72 00:04:10,053 --> 00:04:12,773 Speaker 2: an incredible look at sort of the reality of life 73 00:04:13,173 --> 00:04:18,133 Speaker 2: and around very intimate Jack because obviously he cannot go 74 00:04:18,333 --> 00:04:21,133 Speaker 2: out and make it obvious to everybody he's making a film. 75 00:04:21,573 --> 00:04:23,013 Speaker 2: A lot of a lot of the you know, the 76 00:04:23,093 --> 00:04:25,773 Speaker 2: shots are the film was shot from inside the van 77 00:04:25,973 --> 00:04:30,453 Speaker 2: or quite interior locations or quite quiet locations. 78 00:04:30,533 --> 00:04:33,933 Speaker 3: It's not a they're not setting up, you're blocking off 79 00:04:33,973 --> 00:04:36,333 Speaker 3: a few streets and having big rigs and that kind 80 00:04:36,333 --> 00:04:36,573 Speaker 3: of thing. 81 00:04:36,653 --> 00:04:38,733 Speaker 2: No, I know, that really adds to it and it 82 00:04:38,853 --> 00:04:41,493 Speaker 2: kind of brings you into these people's story. So yeah, 83 00:04:41,533 --> 00:04:45,373 Speaker 2: it's absolutely fantastic worre seeing at the festival. I'm pretty 84 00:04:45,373 --> 00:04:47,573 Speaker 2: sure it will come back at some point to general release. 85 00:04:48,053 --> 00:04:50,973 Speaker 2: But the festival screenings will be full and it is 86 00:04:51,013 --> 00:04:52,813 Speaker 2: a wonderful film to see surround us. 87 00:04:53,893 --> 00:04:56,493 Speaker 3: No I saw that its one at Cahn, and once 88 00:04:56,533 --> 00:04:58,453 Speaker 3: the Film Festival got it, I just thought, oh my gosh, 89 00:04:58,493 --> 00:05:00,013 Speaker 3: I got to go and see that. Sounds amazing. So 90 00:05:00,133 --> 00:05:02,813 Speaker 3: that is it was just an accident showing at the 91 00:05:02,853 --> 00:05:06,333 Speaker 3: New Zealand International Film Festival. Next up, like I said, 92 00:05:06,493 --> 00:05:09,413 Speaker 3: something completely different, the story of friend of the Show 93 00:05:09,733 --> 00:05:12,333 Speaker 3: Dave Fishwick, who of course, we interviewed when Bank of 94 00:05:12,453 --> 00:05:15,733 Speaker 3: Dave one was introduced. This is Bank of Dave two. 95 00:05:16,413 --> 00:05:19,253 Speaker 4: I'm dere do I know you talk the Bank of 96 00:05:19,333 --> 00:05:30,973 Speaker 4: dev of Dave. I'm bunker Dad Guilty's job. 97 00:05:32,253 --> 00:05:33,693 Speaker 3: Okay, tell us about it, Francisca. 98 00:05:34,493 --> 00:05:37,853 Speaker 2: Okay. So this is another predictable but lovely story of 99 00:05:38,053 --> 00:05:41,453 Speaker 2: Burnley businessman who sold bands, of course, and as you 100 00:05:41,533 --> 00:05:43,173 Speaker 2: will know, Jack, you sort of took on the banks 101 00:05:43,173 --> 00:05:45,413 Speaker 2: by starting his own community bank, Bank of Day so 102 00:05:45,573 --> 00:05:47,693 Speaker 2: the little people were able to get loans. And in 103 00:05:47,773 --> 00:05:51,053 Speaker 2: this particular story, he is we've got a very similar narrative. 104 00:05:51,133 --> 00:05:53,333 Speaker 2: He is taking on the payday lenders, you know, the 105 00:05:53,453 --> 00:05:56,973 Speaker 2: online venders who charge a fortune and insurance and we're 106 00:05:57,013 --> 00:05:59,933 Speaker 2: ruining people's lives in the community. So once again, Joe 107 00:06:00,013 --> 00:06:04,093 Speaker 2: steps up to help these ordinary people, vulnerable people whose 108 00:06:04,173 --> 00:06:07,373 Speaker 2: lives have been you know, really ad by this, and 109 00:06:07,493 --> 00:06:09,493 Speaker 2: she wants to do something about it, and so off 110 00:06:09,573 --> 00:06:11,933 Speaker 2: he goes. But the Payday members they fight back, and 111 00:06:12,013 --> 00:06:14,093 Speaker 2: they fight dirty, and there is sort of a connection 112 00:06:14,213 --> 00:06:17,933 Speaker 2: to American businessmen and ties to organized crime. But essentially 113 00:06:17,973 --> 00:06:20,853 Speaker 2: it really does unfold very much like the first film. 114 00:06:21,093 --> 00:06:25,413 Speaker 2: But I think it's all about the performances and they 115 00:06:25,533 --> 00:06:30,653 Speaker 2: are very heartfelt and Rory kinnear as Dave was absolutely fabulous, 116 00:06:31,013 --> 00:06:34,293 Speaker 2: And there's just something a little bit special about knowing 117 00:06:34,413 --> 00:06:37,093 Speaker 2: that this guy really does exist and that people can 118 00:06:37,533 --> 00:06:39,933 Speaker 2: stand up and you know that it is based loosely 119 00:06:40,293 --> 00:06:42,373 Speaker 2: on a true story that you know, people can make 120 00:06:42,413 --> 00:06:44,653 Speaker 2: an impact and stand up and look after their community. 121 00:06:44,773 --> 00:06:48,133 Speaker 2: So yeah, it's a little bit it's a bit lighter 122 00:06:49,093 --> 00:06:50,413 Speaker 2: fair than our first film. 123 00:06:50,533 --> 00:06:51,213 Speaker 1: Nothing wrong with that. 124 00:06:51,413 --> 00:06:54,493 Speaker 3: You're weird, Joy Arrange. This is what we love, Francisca. 125 00:06:55,013 --> 00:06:56,853 Speaker 2: I try. That's why I try to bring you Jack 126 00:06:57,213 --> 00:06:57,533 Speaker 2: very good. 127 00:06:57,533 --> 00:07:00,453 Speaker 3: Hey, dere, I ask you, you've got a busy day today. 128 00:07:00,533 --> 00:07:02,893 Speaker 3: Induction huh oh. 129 00:07:04,453 --> 00:07:05,293 Speaker 2: Stop it hang on. 130 00:07:05,373 --> 00:07:07,333 Speaker 3: When I say induction. People are going to thinking on 131 00:07:07,453 --> 00:07:08,453 Speaker 3: what's she being induced for? 132 00:07:08,613 --> 00:07:08,653 Speaker 1: No? 133 00:07:08,733 --> 00:07:11,613 Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, no no no no, you're getting confused. 134 00:07:12,213 --> 00:07:14,013 Speaker 3: Do you mind telling us what you're heading off to 135 00:07:14,053 --> 00:07:14,453 Speaker 3: do today? 136 00:07:15,493 --> 00:07:18,253 Speaker 2: Well? I love to do pottery, Jack, thank you for 137 00:07:18,333 --> 00:07:21,173 Speaker 2: bringing this up. I just good my little hobbit. No. 138 00:07:22,013 --> 00:07:24,213 Speaker 2: About a year ago, I decided I needed to do something, 139 00:07:24,293 --> 00:07:26,413 Speaker 2: create it, and I wanted to create things with my hands. 140 00:07:26,853 --> 00:07:28,933 Speaker 2: So I go to the Clay Center. I've been doing 141 00:07:28,973 --> 00:07:31,053 Speaker 2: classes at the Clay Center and I absolutely love it, 142 00:07:31,213 --> 00:07:32,933 Speaker 2: and I've just come off the waiting list to become 143 00:07:32,933 --> 00:07:35,213 Speaker 2: a member, and I'm very I'm going to be able 144 00:07:35,213 --> 00:07:36,693 Speaker 2: to be able to go in there whenever I want 145 00:07:36,813 --> 00:07:39,373 Speaker 2: and make a huge mess with clay, which is essentially. 146 00:07:39,093 --> 00:07:42,533 Speaker 3: What I do. Ah fun, that'd be great. Enjoy it. 147 00:07:43,173 --> 00:07:46,293 Speaker 3: We'll be thinking of you, looking forward to your next creations, 148 00:07:46,333 --> 00:07:47,493 Speaker 3: and we'll catch you again next week. 149 00:07:48,253 --> 00:07:48,853 Speaker 2: Thanks Jack. 150 00:07:49,173 --> 00:07:51,773 Speaker 3: That is Francisca Rudkin, our film reviewers. So those films 151 00:07:51,813 --> 00:07:55,373 Speaker 3: once again, it was just an accident. Open the New 152 00:07:55,453 --> 00:07:59,133 Speaker 3: Zealand International Film Festival. That is showing in cinemas. Bank 153 00:07:59,213 --> 00:08:03,453 Speaker 3: of Dave two The Lone Ranger is on Netflix, Is 154 00:08:03,493 --> 00:08:07,173 Speaker 3: it Dave Fishick or Dave Fishwick. It's fish Wick, I 155 00:08:07,213 --> 00:08:09,013 Speaker 3: think a but you know it's one of those. It's 156 00:08:09,053 --> 00:08:11,653 Speaker 3: like the name Warwick. You know how some people look 157 00:08:11,653 --> 00:08:16,053 Speaker 3: at the name Warwick and they go Warwick Dave. So 158 00:08:16,133 --> 00:08:17,973 Speaker 3: it's f I s h. I think we've got that. 159 00:08:18,053 --> 00:08:21,613 Speaker 3: But that's fish and then w I c k Wick Fishwick, 160 00:08:21,693 --> 00:08:24,693 Speaker 3: Dave Fishwick as opposed to Phish. Yeah, I'm sticking with Fishwick. 161 00:08:25,093 --> 00:08:26,733 Speaker 3: Bank of Dave two is on Netflix. 162 00:08:27,453 --> 00:08:30,533 Speaker 1: For more from Saturday Morning with Jack Tame, listen live 163 00:08:30,653 --> 00:08:33,453 Speaker 1: to news talks he'd b from nine am Saturday, or 164 00:08:33,533 --> 00:08:35,413 Speaker 1: follow the podcast on iHeartRadio