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Speaker 1: Daily bespoke content that you won't find on the radio

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Speaker 1: show The Hadarki Breakfast Podcast.

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Speaker 2: So the New Zealand Breakers are doing something special tonight

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Speaker 2: at Spack Arena. They're honoring one of their greatest players,

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Speaker 2: Tom Abercrombie, by officially retiring his iconic number ten jersey,

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Speaker 2: in a ceremony celebrating his legendary six sixteen seasons. Tom

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Speaker 2: Abercrombie joins us now on the podcast Tom sixteen Seasons.

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Speaker 3: It's a bloody It's a bloody long time, isn't it.

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Speaker 3: Sixteen seasons, sixteen years running around the court. You're you're

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Speaker 3: pretty well, I'm glad of not doing it anymore.

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Speaker 4: I was good to Sorry.

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Speaker 5: I'm just say, at one point in your life you

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Speaker 5: would have been a member of the Breakers, probably for

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Speaker 5: longer than you hadn't been.

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Speaker 4: Is that right?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Well, I knew it was time to retire when

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Speaker 3: it got to a stage where I was sort of

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Speaker 3: thirty seven and there was eighteen year old kids coming

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Speaker 3: into the team that you know, feasibly we're young enough

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Speaker 3: to be my kids. So it was a good time

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Speaker 3: to hang it up.

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Speaker 2: I think you were your bastable career. If it was

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Speaker 2: an actual person would be sitting their learner's driver's license indeed,

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Speaker 2: and no doubt passing with flying colors could drink in.

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Speaker 5: Some regional pubs as well, so yours. This is for

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Speaker 5: people that don't really follow basketball. Getting your jersey hung

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Speaker 5: up on the rafters, that is the biggest. It's the

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Speaker 5: highest honor in the basketball world. And in fact, there's

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Speaker 5: an NBA player who played in Houston, James Harden, familiar

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Speaker 5: with this storytime He actually got his jersey retired in

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Speaker 5: a strip club. He spent so much time there that

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Speaker 5: they hung his jersey and the rafters. How much does

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Speaker 5: it mean to have your your jersey hung in the

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Speaker 5: rafters for a club.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a massive honor.

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Speaker 3: As you said, as a basketballer, there's no sort of

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Speaker 3: greater way to be recognized for your achievements.

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Speaker 4: So it's pretty humbling.

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Speaker 3: And you know, very very special to receive it honor.

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Speaker 3: Obviously some elite company up there with me and Dylan

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Speaker 3: Boucher and Paul Hanade and C. J.

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Speaker 4: Brutman and the Blackwell family, so.

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Speaker 3: All people that have given a huge amount to basketball

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Speaker 3: into the breakers and to join them up there is

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Speaker 3: a's a really special thing, and you know, Derreck Rose

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Speaker 3: got his journy retired by the Chicago Bulls you know,

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Speaker 3: last week as well, and it is a it's a

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Speaker 3: really cool experience, and I'm looking forward to tonight and

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Speaker 3: being able to share all those moments with with everyone

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Speaker 3: that was along there on the journey with me, because

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Speaker 3: it's so much about all of them as it is

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Speaker 3: about me too. You know, the family name's going up there,

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Speaker 3: and the Breakers family and the fans and everyone who

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Speaker 3: was able to watch me for such a long time,

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Speaker 3: and it's going to be cool just to take one

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Speaker 3: last troll down memory lane and you know, show my

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Speaker 3: kids some highlights hopefully up on the big screen and

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Speaker 3: every good Night.

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Speaker 5: That Jared Jackson Junior dounk I think should be replayed.

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Speaker 4: It might make an appearance.

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Speaker 5: Do you know who else is coming? And mentioned Derrek

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Speaker 5: Rose there and then they had all the Chicago Bulls

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Speaker 5: legends there. Do you know who's coming along tonight?

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Speaker 4: Not? I mean I know that my family's obviously going

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Speaker 4: to be them. The kids will be there. It will

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Speaker 4: be my first time actually going along to a game

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Speaker 4: and having all my kids there with me.

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Speaker 3: So it's can be really cool just to sit there

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Speaker 4: As I said, it's a long time.

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Speaker 3: There's a lot of a lot of fans out there

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Speaker 3: who you know, were sort of five years old when

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Speaker 3: I started, and I had pictures with me when I

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Speaker 3: And you know, it's as I said, it's not just

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Speaker 3: of is. It makes me a little uncomfortable having all

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Speaker 3: to laugh it up and then fade away into the sunset.

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Speaker 2: What are your fondest memories from your tenure at the Breakers.

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Speaker 4: I look, there was a lot.

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Speaker 3: It was obviously a long time, but winning championships is

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Speaker 3: always a really special thing, and you know, to win

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Speaker 4: And they were all different as well. You know. The

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Speaker 3: Of New Zealand team to win an Australasian sporting competition.

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Speaker 3: We won it at home at the Norsher Events Center,

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Speaker 3: they gave us a parade down Queen Street was it

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Speaker 3: the team just went up a notch after that, we

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Speaker 4: That was incredible. And then we backed up back to

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Speaker 4: that with a three peet.

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Speaker 3: By going over and knocking off Perth on their home

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Speaker 4: And that was special as well.

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Speaker 3: But certainly I think the last one, you know, Kenn

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Speaker 3: Beckway hits the game winning shot on the buzzer to

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Speaker 4: That's the stuff dreams are made of.

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Speaker 3: And I'll always remember that getting down and celebrating with him,

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Speaker 3: and obviously Andrew Bulligan's epic epic call for that one,

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Speaker 5: Absolute scenes. Yeah, these are some of the formative memories

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Speaker 5: but when was the first at what age did you

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Speaker 4: I remember first dunk? I went away.

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Speaker 3: It was I was fourth form at school, so I

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Speaker 3: don't know what that is. In years now they've changed

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Speaker 4: And I came back.

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Speaker 3: I was in the west Lake west Lake old gym,

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Speaker 4: Anyone that's played in there will remember it fondly.

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Speaker 3: Not overly conducive to jumpers, but I used to go

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Speaker 4: Over the holidays and just tried it out.

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Speaker 3: And I can think quite fiftily my first dunk was

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Speaker 3: and siddly getting up and dunking for the first time

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Speaker 3: as you're Knownyah, it's a special time in your life.

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Speaker 5: Isn't it.

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Speaker 2: It's something that Manaia's often talked to me about his

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Speaker 2: first done.

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Speaker 5: I couldn't jump over a phone book. I'm gonna be

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Speaker 5: honest with that. By the time, I was a.

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Speaker 4: Good thing about hoops. These days, mate, we can lower

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Speaker 4: them down. Yeah, that's right.

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Speaker 5: I would love to play in an eight foot Hope

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Speaker 5: league if I could.

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Speaker 4: Right up there.

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Speaker 5: I once dunk a tennis ball. That's as close as

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Speaker 4: Okay, well, you take your ones.

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Speaker 1: Jeremy Wells and Manaia Stuet find them on Instagram at

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Speaker 1: Hodaki Breakfast. Jerry and Mania joined the conflict the Hodaki

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Speaker 1: Breakfast discussion group on Facebook for more.

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Speaker 2: Tom, You've played in a lot of shoes over the years.

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Speaker 2: For you, what's been your favorite shoe off?

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Speaker 3: I used to because we didn't get a whole lot

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Speaker 4: I remember him going over to the States. He had

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Speaker 3: Order to pick me up a pair of T Max

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Speaker 3: I was tripping over myself. But eventually I grew into

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Speaker 4: I was trying everything. Ye had double socks. I had

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Speaker 2: Cut his hay some spin cos Yeah, I was like.

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Speaker 2: How much it look But anyway, how much the lighter

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Speaker 2: that's amazing that people could even jump in those things.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, this was half the problem with the T Max.

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Speaker 3: Yes, they were a size and a half too big

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Speaker 3: I'd like to think I got better because of that,

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Speaker 4: So all good character building stuff. Yeah.

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Speaker 5: I remember buying a pair of Lebron's shoes off trade

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Speaker 5: it breakers. What about favorite type of basketball your Spaulding.

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Speaker 4: Guy, Jesus, I used to love.

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Speaker 3: We used to pose these Moltens back in the day,

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Speaker 3: which the Moltens were a really good ball but when

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Speaker 3: they were brand new, they were you know, they were

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Speaker 4: New, who unworn and molten ball, he used to pass

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Speaker 3: There'd be you know, water flying off the balls that's

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Speaker 3: rotating through the air, and I was just praying, praying

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Speaker 4: Whack me in the face. But when they were on.

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Speaker 3: A fantastic ball and had some of the better games

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Speaker 2: Tom Abercrombie, what about your most memorable dunk in sixteen seasons.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, look, it would have to be probably Minia's favorite.

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Speaker 4: The dunk.

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Speaker 3: I'm Jaron Jackson, you know. We played them in an

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Speaker 4: It was a bit of an outer body experience really.

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Speaker 3: I caught the ball and went down the lane and

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Speaker 3: the seas just kind of parted, and I never really

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Speaker 3: various highlights on Instagram and tag me in them, And

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Speaker 3: it's pretty cold to beout to dunk on a prominent

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Speaker 3: pretty sure it got me got me another contract at

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Speaker 3: the time too, So you're pretty happy with that one.

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Speaker 2: On the move, keets it back, Rubbercrabie draps it in

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Speaker 4: Jams with a right hand on tap of Jared Jackson Junior.

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Speaker 2: Have you ever considered a future, a life where you

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Speaker 3: Well, it's a great question, and it's probably about that time.

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Speaker 3: I actually need to test it out, because I'm not

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Speaker 3: sure if I can dunk right now. I'm not in

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Speaker 3: probably something I need to go and test out these days,

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Speaker 3: or maybe I don't. I think I'd probably rather just

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Speaker 4: To get up and dunk it. I'll be sticking to

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Speaker 4: the eight foot rims with Mania from now.

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Speaker 5: We'll start a league up. As we mentioned, Fourth Jersey

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Speaker 5: hung in the rafter shoot Shagg Mary Paula Hen had

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Speaker 4: Britten.

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Speaker 3: Oh, there's three legends up there have to make me choose,

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Speaker 3: So I'm just going to stick in the order that

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Speaker 2: Tom ever Crombie, thank you so much for your time

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Speaker 2: this morning. Lovely to chat to your well done on

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Speaker 2: an amazing career and then all the accolades you deserve

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Speaker 2: them and best of luck with everything in the future.

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Speaker 4: Awesome. Thanks very much for having me on Fellas. Thanks,

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Speaker 4: good on you, Tom worked, No, thank you boy. It's

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Speaker 4: always a pleasure.

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Speaker 2: Enjoy tonight, won't you.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we'll do. Thank you guys, all right, see Jerri

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Speaker 4: and Maniah.

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