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Speaker 1: We got a little bit more out of the government

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Speaker 1: on the cook Straight Ferries deal, but not a whole heap.

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Speaker 1: It's agreed to go forward with Winston Peter's proposal, which

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Speaker 1: will include road and rail decks and capacity for fifteen

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Speaker 1: hundred passengers. Some say though the capacity we will be

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Speaker 1: less than we currently have. He says. The plan has

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Speaker 1: two new ferries crossing Cooks Straight by Christmas twenty twenty nine,

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Speaker 1: which is where our old fairies basically run out of life,

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Speaker 1: and it claims he claimed anyway, that it will be

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Speaker 1: ultimately cheaper than the last government's option. So I'm joined

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Speaker 1: now by Rail and Maritime Transport Union spokesperson Todd Volster.

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Speaker 1: Hello Todd, good morning. We still don't know how much

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Speaker 1: is this going to cost, particularly particularly port side, so what's

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Speaker 1: your pick.

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Speaker 2: Look, the good news is the Roald that's the main thing.

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Speaker 2: So you know, we can't get past that. It was

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Speaker 2: going towards the monster advisory as groups.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that was my third question. My question is how

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Speaker 1: much is this going to cost in your extvansion.

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Speaker 2: It's completely unknown. We don't know what the breakout costs

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Speaker 2: with HI and iye is whether they were able to

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Speaker 2: make a deal or whether there's a deal there with

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Speaker 2: with High and Die around the canceled ferries. So that's

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Speaker 2: completely unknown what it's going to cost. That'll come out if.

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Speaker 1: We don't know what a deal costs. If we don't

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Speaker 1: know what a deal costs, do we really have a deal?

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Speaker 2: Well, they're saying that it's commercially sensitive. They can't say

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Speaker 2: how much it's going to cost because that would that

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Speaker 2: would alter the bidding arrangement. So you know, the main

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Speaker 2: takeaway is they're rail enabled and we weren't going to

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Speaker 2: get mail enabled. But we can't go past how long

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Speaker 2: this has taken. I Rex was very very drawn out

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Speaker 2: and then we've had sixty months of limbo about what's

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Speaker 2: going to happen in the future. It's been very disturbing

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Speaker 2: for my members, my rail maritime transport members working out

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Speaker 2: attempts in both Wellington and Pickton. So yeah, the sure

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Speaker 2: side thing is definitely a concern and they're saying that

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Speaker 2: they'll tart them up a little bit, but it needs

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Speaker 2: to be more modest than what the Irax project was.

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Speaker 2: But how modest is it going to be?

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Speaker 1: Well, exactly, they say a rebuild and picton because that's

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Speaker 1: really behind, but just a revamp of Wellington. But I

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Speaker 1: understood that Wellington the because there was making it earthquake proof.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that was definitely a concern. It was also making

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Speaker 2: it one hundred year asset that it didn't need to be,

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Speaker 2: so you know, it's fair to say that there was

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Speaker 2: the infrastructure on land that blew things out. The deal

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Speaker 2: for the boats was an eat font deal. The original deal.

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Speaker 2: People talked about Ferraris and Toyotas or something or Corollas,

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Speaker 2: but it was never The concern around the boat build itself.

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Speaker 1: Was still on the port side. It's all in the

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Speaker 1: port side, all the port side, so they reckon the

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Speaker 1: boats are here by twenty twenty nine. There's an awful

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Speaker 1: lot of construction work that would have to happen so

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Speaker 1: that they can dock. Do you think the whole thing

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Speaker 1: is achievable? And also the current boats end of life

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Speaker 1: is twenty twenty nine, so we're cutting it pretty fine right.

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Speaker 2: To the edge. Yeah, those boats are probably nearly three

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Speaker 2: decades old by that stage, so it's definitely taking it

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Speaker 2: to the edge. I understand from what mister Peace was

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Speaker 2: sing yesterday is that there has been significant surveys of

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Speaker 2: the boats and recommendations on how to keep them going

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Speaker 2: for that long. But you know just as well, we're

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Speaker 2: not in aviation running around with city of your old planes.

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Speaker 1: And I think you if you turn to a Volster

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Speaker 1: told Volster from the rail m Maritime Union.

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