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Speaker 1: What was just over months to go into the US election.

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Speaker 1: The final debate event of the campaign took place this afternoon.

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Speaker 1: The Vice President's debate between Democrat Tim Waltz and Republican JD.

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Speaker 1: Vance holds perhaps a little more weight than a VP

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Speaker 1: debate usually would, simply because the race is so close

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Speaker 1: and this is the only debate they're having. Mark Gilbert

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Speaker 1: is the former US Ambassador to New Zealand and is

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Speaker 1: with US now. Kyoda.

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Speaker 2: Good evening, Kyota, Good evening, Jack.

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Speaker 1: What did you think of the debate?

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Speaker 2: Well, first of all, it was civil, which I thought

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Speaker 2: was a great improvement from many of the debates that

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Speaker 2: we have seen. I think both candidates got across the

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Speaker 2: points that they were trying to make, sometimes answering the

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Speaker 2: moderator's question, sometimes answering or giving the answer that they

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Speaker 2: wanted the potential voters to hear.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Who do you think was the stronger performer overall?

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Speaker 2: Well? Jd Vance is an accomplished debater, so you could

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Speaker 2: see that he has done this many times before. Governor

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Speaker 2: Walls I thought held his own and I thought the debate.

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Speaker 2: Each of them had strong points at different times. It

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Speaker 2: was obvious to see that the Trump campaign wanted jd

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Speaker 2: Vance to hammer Kamala Harris and the Democrats on energy,

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Speaker 2: which is something that sort of confounds me because during

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Speaker 2: the Biden administration, we became an energy net exporter for

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Speaker 2: the first time, and we're producing more oil more gas

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Speaker 2: than any other country in the world. So to hammer

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Speaker 2: them on energy, I thought was sort of a strange task.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it was an interesting strategic move, wasn't it. You know,

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Speaker 1: There's been a lot of criticism about Donald Trump's decision

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Speaker 1: to appoint Jedi Vance as his running mate. Do you

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Speaker 1: think his performance tonight will quell some of that criticism.

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Speaker 2: Well, I think that the Republicans will think that he

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Speaker 2: had a very good night, which he did. He was

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Speaker 2: very strong. He answered the questions that he wanted to

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Speaker 2: answer in the way he wanted to convey a message.

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Speaker 2: I thought he was a pretty strong defender of Donald Trump.

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Speaker 2: But I thought towards the end of the bait he

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Speaker 2: completely lost all credibility when he was asked about the

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty election. When he was asked, did Donald Trump

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Speaker 2: lose in twenty twenty, and he said, well, I'm focused

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Speaker 2: on the future and the only reason he is Donald

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Speaker 2: Trump's running mate is because Donald Trump and his followers

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Speaker 2: tried to hang his former vice president. So it was

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Speaker 2: a very awkward moment, and if I was sitting there

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Speaker 2: as an undecided voter, would have really recoiled at the

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Speaker 2: answer he gave about twenty twenty.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for your time, Mark, we appreciate it. That's Mark Gilbert,

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Speaker 1: the former US Ambassador to New Zealand and member of

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Speaker 1: the Democrat Party. If you watch the debate, ninety two

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Speaker 1: ninety two is our text number. If you've got thoughts

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Speaker 1: on that, I'm going to tell you who I think

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Speaker 1: came out on top of a couple of minutes, It's

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Speaker 1: fourteen past five. For more from Hither Duplessy Allen Drive,

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