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Speaker 1: The huddle with New Zealand Southeby's international realty, the ones

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Speaker 1: with worldwide connections that perform not a promise.

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Speaker 2: Stuart National Labor Minister, on the huddle tonight. Hey, Stuart,

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Speaker 2: I have.

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Speaker 3: Heavy on Marris Williamson or can counselor former national minister.

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Speaker 2: Hi Morris, good evening, Ryan, got any views on that? Morris?

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Speaker 3: You obviously you've been sitting in council meetings all day.

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Speaker 3: You'll be familiar with all of this.

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Speaker 1: The insanity just never stops. I mean, we find examples

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Speaker 1: where there have been almost no injuries, no one killed,

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Speaker 1: no one injured, and the argument is, yes, but there

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Speaker 1: could be one day, So we should go out with

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Speaker 1: speed bumps that wreck your cars and bottoms of some

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Speaker 1: of the emergency vehicles transmissions have all been broken when

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Speaker 1: they've gone home with them at speed. I mean, if

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Speaker 1: we just let some facts interfere with things, that will

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Speaker 1: be really quite different to the normal. Will What I

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Speaker 1: loved about this thing is why don't we just do

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Speaker 1: it week on and week off, So one side has

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Speaker 1: the speed bump one week and then they turn it

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Speaker 1: round the other week, and I mean that's how that's

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Speaker 1: how insane. This stuff is.

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Speaker 3: That's just to your average punter, it's going to look

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Speaker 3: and sound pretty nuts, Stuart.

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Speaker 1: The tourist attraction, that's what it is.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we'll make one point on this. Yeah, you know,

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Speaker 4: weak people in christ Church are going to jump up

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Speaker 4: part of christ Church. You've got fifteen thousand cars going

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Speaker 4: up and down. I'll tell you this will be a

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Speaker 4: lot more dangerous now because what will happen is the

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Speaker 4: Bogans will approach that speed bump and instead of going

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Speaker 4: over the speed bump, they'll zoom around it to get

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Speaker 4: of a lot of accidents in Bogan christ Church. I'm

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Speaker 4: really really sorry, but this is just bloody crazy.

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Speaker 1: But Boganville, you're not going to be running with a

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Speaker 1: stupid decision.

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Speaker 2: You're not going to be prime minister anytime soon, Stuart.

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Speaker 2: We'll talk about that. Well, I'm not running for the

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Speaker 2: mirror christ Church.

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Speaker 3: But you know, hey, we'll come back in just a

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Speaker 3: second because I want to get your views on America's cut,

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Speaker 3: the government deciding not to fund. Stuart Nash Morris Williamson

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Speaker 3: on the huddle. Stuart Nash, formal Obor Minister. Marris Williamson,

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Speaker 3: former National Minister, current Aukland councilor on the huddle tonight.

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Speaker 3: Are lots of texts coming in about the pedestrians. Thinks,

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Speaker 3: for goodness sakes, we've had flat pedestrian crossings for most

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Speaker 3: of my life. Why do we suddenly need them to

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Speaker 3: be raised or for them to be bumps in front

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Speaker 3: of them? Let's move to the America's Cup now, guys,

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Speaker 3: the government has said no to that. Apparently seventy five

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Speaker 3: million dollars is what they were after for twenty twenty seven.

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Speaker 2: Stuart.

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Speaker 3: You know there's the argument, well do you invest now

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Speaker 3: and you reap the rewards later?

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Speaker 2: But do they stack up?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, they kind of do. Actually, And the reason I

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Speaker 4: say that is I was a minister for the America's

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Speaker 4: Cup as part of my economic development portfolio. In the

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Speaker 4: last Cup, we offered Team New Zealand sixty million dollars

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Speaker 4: in a sort of a post COVID world and there

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Speaker 4: was a big debate around the cabinet table. There I

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Speaker 4: go again in trouble. But you know, there's about a

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Speaker 4: billion dollars of economic development that accrues to the city

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Speaker 4: and the country out of such a big event like this.

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Speaker 4: It is tough times, I absolutely get that, but part

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Speaker 4: of economic development, economic growth, and the America's Cup really

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Speaker 4: is the pinnacle of innovation. And I know it's a

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Speaker 4: rich person's sport, but but it's one of those kind

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Speaker 4: way very few other events do. So I probably would

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Speaker 4: have worn the seventy five million dollars, keeping in mind

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Speaker 4: you don't have to stump up with it immediately, and

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Well, the problem with your one was that we made

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, no, no, So the one that went to Barcelona, Yeah,

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Speaker 4: Before it had gone there, we offered sixty million dollars.

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Speaker 2: And now you see what you're saying, and Team New

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Speaker 4: No, we're going to head off shore. It was like, yeah,

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Speaker 4: it was a shame because I love it, but I

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but I love it too, but I and I

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Speaker 3: do genuinely enjoy watching it went down and watched it

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Speaker 3: last time it was here. But then you look at

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Speaker 3: you know, how many roads we need affect how many hospitals?

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Speaker 3: I mean, look at Dunedin Hospital. Morris, what's your take?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Look, I think the government's made the right decision.

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Speaker 1: While we're the difficult economic situation we are, and it

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Speaker 1: is pretty dire out there. I think the low level

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Speaker 1: of priorities that stack up higher than this. But there's

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Speaker 1: one thing I want to raise. I raised it with

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Speaker 1: officials at Council when I got elected in twenty twenty two.

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Speaker 1: I just said to them, you guys put a lot

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Speaker 1: and you funded Grant Dalton's syndicate and so on and

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Speaker 1: the yeah, yeah, I said, did any of you ever

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Speaker 1: you win, you'll have at least the next two defenses

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Speaker 1: held here in Auckland, and they said, oh, he wouldn't

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Speaker 1: just giving them all the money, letting them do that one.

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Speaker 1: It failed because of COVID. I get that. But then

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Speaker 1: he walked away to Barcelona. And my second question is this,

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Speaker 1: If it was so phenomenal for Barcelona, and I keep

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Speaker 1: reading it was fantastic for Barcelona, why don't they want

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Speaker 4: Well, maybe they do, I don't think He's.

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Speaker 1: No, they don't know, they don't.

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Speaker 2: They don't want it.

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Speaker 3: And why aren't there other cities lining you know, if

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Speaker 3: it really did make the money they say that that

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Speaker 3: it has one of the other cities lining.

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Speaker 2: Up to do it too. That's what it's my question.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I can't understand that, but either Hey, the Ministry

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Speaker 3: secondary students. Shakespeare is manned a treat with his one

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Speaker 3: Shakespeare book that must be read, and.

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Speaker 2: There's a nineteenth century text that must be read as well.

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Speaker 3: What did you guys read or can you remember reading

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Speaker 4: Yeah? Look, I'm not against this. Actually, you know I

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Speaker 4: the students be encouraged to read those? But you know,

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Speaker 4: Shakespeare is considered the greatest ever exposed to the English language.

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Speaker 4: What's wrong without with reading the guy who is the

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Speaker 4: men and women who we want to succeed in the world.

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Speaker 4: Give them a whole range of different texts and topics

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Speaker 4: and so they're going to get joys. They're going to

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Speaker 4: get shakespe but they're also going to get some fantastic

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Speaker 2: Mate, did you read in the Stake Spirit School?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I've got a slightly different view on it. I

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Speaker 1: it will come. The readiness is all, well, it's about.

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Speaker 4: Your girlfriend, mate, it's about a girl when you go

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Speaker 4: out there or not. But but the thing is my

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Speaker 4: But you know when was that? When you repeat it

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Speaker 1: The second but the best five years of my life

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Speaker 1: I spent in the third form that's from Hamlet. And

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Speaker 1: I used to read this stuff and I kept saying,

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Speaker 1: But look, those who know English well, they believe it's

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Speaker 1: it's Morris.

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Speaker 3: What it does is make it modern English sound easy,

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Speaker 3: you know what I mean? In that way, it's great

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Speaker 3: for your confidence.

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Speaker 2: I would have thought, purpose, I'll.

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Speaker 2: Now the Greens are you, Marris?

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Speaker 3: You've got something you want to get off your chest

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Speaker 3: about the Greens, and we've got two minutes to do this.

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Speaker 1: But well, look the Tamotha Paul stuff about police and

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Speaker 1: They were absolutely truly environmentals. They were really keen to

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Speaker 1: I thought one of the funniest questions I've ever heard

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Speaker 1: Short asked a question on them, is that the first

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Speaker 1: and conservation. They're now just a bunch of nutcases.

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Speaker 4: The Alliance and drag Hey. The other thing I do

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Speaker 4: want to say is this guy Ben Doyle. You know

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Speaker 4: I heard someone on the HOSK this morning, saying, oh,

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Speaker 4: you know this is bad because we want good, diverse

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Speaker 4: people in Parliament.

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Speaker 2: We absolutely do.

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Speaker 4: This guy is not good. Get rid of him. Standards

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Speaker 4: have dropped considerably since Marris and I were there. I

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Speaker 4: think the Greens are the laughing stock. I can't believe

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Speaker 4: they're polling the way they are.

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