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Speaker 1: What a fantastic day was for Wall yesterday. Government directive

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Speaker 1: for their agencies to use Will we're appropriate in the

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Speaker 1: construction and refurbishment of buildings. The new fleece first procurement

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Speaker 1: rules we'll get underway July one, will impact CEO Andy

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Speaker 1: Coy's with us.

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Speaker 2: Andy morning, Yes, good morning, make good day, great day

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Speaker 2: for Will. Fantastic for a.

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Speaker 1: Purist like me. I love Wall, I'd die for Wall,

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Speaker 1: all that stuff. But for a purist, a government picking

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Speaker 1: winners does raise economic questions, doesn't it?

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Speaker 2: Yes and no. I think what we've got to look

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Speaker 2: at is a value equation and increasingly where we're learning

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Speaker 2: around the issues around synthetic materials in the living spaces

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Speaker 2: where we operate and how that impacts on human health,

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Speaker 2: and then looking at the end of life, what happens

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Speaker 2: to the materials that go into landfill. We we bury

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Speaker 2: one hundred and forty eight thousand tons of carpets every

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Speaker 2: year in New Zealand, and yet we're producing one hundred

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Speaker 2: thousand tons of wool and eighty five percent of that

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Speaker 2: goes overseas. So you can see how much synthetic material

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Speaker 2: is going into landfill sites.

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Speaker 1: Indeed, do you expect them to adhere to what It's

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Speaker 1: not a rule, it's advice, and they need to explain

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Speaker 1: it if they don't. But do you expect people to

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Speaker 1: get on board?

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Speaker 2: It's a strong recommendation, and I think it's the sort

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Speaker 2: of decision which in two to three years time people

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Speaker 2: will look back and go, it was such an obvious solution.

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Speaker 2: Why didn't we embrace it earlier?

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Speaker 1: You'd like to hope. So, well, let's see how it goes. Andy,

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Speaker 1: appreciate it very much. Andy Cohen, who's the Will Impact CEO,

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