1 00:00:06,815 --> 00:00:10,655 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Resident Builder podcast with Peter Wolfcamp 2 00:00:10,855 --> 00:00:11,975 Speaker 1: from News Talks. 3 00:00:11,695 --> 00:00:14,495 Speaker 2: At B and A very good morning to use at 4 00:00:14,535 --> 00:00:15,375 Speaker 2: client past. 5 00:00:17,495 --> 00:00:17,655 Speaker 3: Ups. 6 00:00:17,695 --> 00:00:21,015 Speaker 2: Hang on sec there we go in the morning. 7 00:00:22,135 --> 00:00:24,895 Speaker 3: Yeah, good morning again. Idea, you're good, very well. 8 00:00:24,975 --> 00:00:28,135 Speaker 2: Actually, thank you for sending through that recipe. 9 00:00:29,415 --> 00:00:32,455 Speaker 3: Yeah, I thought. I went ahead a look on the 10 00:00:32,535 --> 00:00:36,095 Speaker 3: internet for all sorts of things, and there are many 11 00:00:36,135 --> 00:00:39,375 Speaker 3: different bits and pieces that are available, especially in the 12 00:00:39,415 --> 00:00:44,295 Speaker 3: American market. But I also got an interesting thing that 13 00:00:44,375 --> 00:00:47,335 Speaker 3: I sent you this the second one I said about 14 00:00:47,935 --> 00:00:51,775 Speaker 3: some plastic machines that actually would work as well. But 15 00:00:51,815 --> 00:00:55,095 Speaker 3: the interesting thing is they all. They all, and that 16 00:00:55,335 --> 00:00:58,695 Speaker 3: makes total sense. They're also aiming at the fact that 17 00:00:58,815 --> 00:01:03,895 Speaker 3: you don't want bees to come into those traps, so 18 00:01:03,975 --> 00:01:05,655 Speaker 3: you want to you want to save the bees if 19 00:01:05,655 --> 00:01:08,215 Speaker 3: you like, And that is a big gig. I think 20 00:01:08,295 --> 00:01:10,495 Speaker 3: if you do have an idea or you want to know, 21 00:01:11,055 --> 00:01:13,615 Speaker 3: don't get me telling I think this is going to work. 22 00:01:14,295 --> 00:01:17,255 Speaker 3: We need enough say and swear it's going to do work, 23 00:01:17,335 --> 00:01:18,015 Speaker 3: don't you agree? 24 00:01:18,135 --> 00:01:20,455 Speaker 2: Well, yeah, and that's where look to be fear. You know, 25 00:01:20,535 --> 00:01:23,375 Speaker 2: social media is full of recipes and that sort of thing, 26 00:01:23,855 --> 00:01:26,175 Speaker 2: most of them, including bes. I went and bought beer. 27 00:01:26,175 --> 00:01:28,935 Speaker 2: It turns out you don't really need beer for making 28 00:01:28,975 --> 00:01:32,055 Speaker 2: these things. But yeah, the concern is that, you know 29 00:01:32,135 --> 00:01:35,135 Speaker 2: the bye catch. Let's say, what you don't want to 30 00:01:35,175 --> 00:01:38,335 Speaker 2: do is create something that is attractive to bees, because 31 00:01:38,415 --> 00:01:40,735 Speaker 2: that's who we're looking to protect, and that's why we 32 00:01:40,775 --> 00:01:44,695 Speaker 2: want to attack the hornets. So I haven't had a 33 00:01:44,775 --> 00:01:46,655 Speaker 2: chance to do your recipe, but I will do this 34 00:01:46,695 --> 00:01:47,535 Speaker 2: week and I'll let you know. 35 00:01:49,055 --> 00:01:50,895 Speaker 3: Well, he a nosy to see what it looks like. 36 00:01:51,055 --> 00:01:54,375 Speaker 3: But it's interesting how many different things there are. And 37 00:01:54,455 --> 00:01:57,255 Speaker 3: this thing is obviously this, this creature is this the 38 00:01:57,535 --> 00:02:01,455 Speaker 3: yellow egged hornet are real playing the bums actually wherever 39 00:02:01,495 --> 00:02:03,975 Speaker 3: they are. So yeah, it would be an idea to 40 00:02:04,935 --> 00:02:07,575 Speaker 3: check this out at the moment. Up to seven females, 41 00:02:07,655 --> 00:02:08,135 Speaker 3: isn't it? 42 00:02:08,415 --> 00:02:11,775 Speaker 2: And apparently a discovery of two nests and you should 43 00:02:11,855 --> 00:02:13,695 Speaker 2: really check it out online for people who are not 44 00:02:13,895 --> 00:02:16,415 Speaker 2: quite sure about this. The nest is like it's an 45 00:02:16,455 --> 00:02:17,935 Speaker 2: impressive piece of architecture. 46 00:02:19,095 --> 00:02:21,975 Speaker 3: It certainly is. It's nice and round, and it's quite 47 00:02:22,495 --> 00:02:24,775 Speaker 3: it's it's quite much bigger than if you're like the 48 00:02:24,855 --> 00:02:28,175 Speaker 3: beginning nest of a German wash, which is only the 49 00:02:28,255 --> 00:02:30,975 Speaker 3: size of a big bomball, you know, and these are 50 00:02:31,175 --> 00:02:34,815 Speaker 3: much much bigger. And of course those nests later on 51 00:02:35,055 --> 00:02:39,295 Speaker 3: will be will basically create the new variety or the 52 00:02:39,375 --> 00:02:45,455 Speaker 3: new lot of these hornets that will also then start 53 00:02:45,495 --> 00:02:48,375 Speaker 3: a much bigger nest. And I've seen those in Alaska 54 00:02:48,695 --> 00:02:53,215 Speaker 3: and places like that. And boyd are big cheepest creepers who. 55 00:02:55,095 --> 00:02:57,415 Speaker 2: Let's hope that we can get it before it spreads. 56 00:02:57,455 --> 00:02:59,575 Speaker 2: I mean, there's there's been success, hasn't there with other 57 00:02:59,695 --> 00:03:03,215 Speaker 2: introduced pests where they you know, the fruit fly for example, 58 00:03:04,775 --> 00:03:08,295 Speaker 2: where they've been able to eradicate that before it becomes established. 59 00:03:08,295 --> 00:03:11,495 Speaker 2: The questioners, you know, are we too late and can 60 00:03:11,575 --> 00:03:13,055 Speaker 2: it be done? That's the big question. 61 00:03:14,255 --> 00:03:16,895 Speaker 3: Well, when I started working with the Ministry of Agriculture 62 00:03:16,895 --> 00:03:20,255 Speaker 3: and Fisheries in nineteen eighty two or three or something 63 00:03:20,375 --> 00:03:25,135 Speaker 3: like that, the paper wasp had just arrived on then 64 00:03:25,135 --> 00:03:29,255 Speaker 3: all shore, same thing, probably a little nest on the 65 00:03:29,375 --> 00:03:32,255 Speaker 3: edge of a container going all the way from goodness 66 00:03:32,255 --> 00:03:35,295 Speaker 3: Do from China. That's the area all the way to Altroa. 67 00:03:35,815 --> 00:03:38,455 Speaker 3: And we've tried to then, I remember we were trying 68 00:03:38,455 --> 00:03:40,815 Speaker 3: to get rid of it then, but no hope and 69 00:03:40,855 --> 00:03:43,855 Speaker 3: health of course that thing is now everywhere. In fact, 70 00:03:44,095 --> 00:03:48,575 Speaker 3: there's not only a particular wasp, but there's also a 71 00:03:48,695 --> 00:03:51,455 Speaker 3: wasp out of Spalia that arrived here. There's also a 72 00:03:51,615 --> 00:03:54,775 Speaker 3: wasp from England that, in the meantime arrived here about 73 00:03:54,775 --> 00:03:58,495 Speaker 3: five or six years ago. Another paper wasp. There's unbelievable. 74 00:03:58,535 --> 00:04:01,055 Speaker 3: There's no three or four or five of those different species. 75 00:04:01,095 --> 00:04:03,415 Speaker 3: Now are we getting these big hornets? 76 00:04:03,455 --> 00:04:07,655 Speaker 2: My goodness, it's hope that with a little bit of 77 00:04:07,655 --> 00:04:09,575 Speaker 2: citizen science will not be able to get on top 78 00:04:09,615 --> 00:04:13,015 Speaker 2: of it. Right, let's get calls. If you'd like to 79 00:04:13,015 --> 00:04:15,055 Speaker 2: talk to ROT, you should call us now. Eight hundred 80 00:04:15,055 --> 00:04:16,855 Speaker 2: and eighty ten eighty is the number to call. And 81 00:04:17,015 --> 00:04:18,615 Speaker 2: Gail a very good morning to you. 82 00:04:19,655 --> 00:04:24,295 Speaker 4: Good morning. We have a high. We have a problem 83 00:04:24,335 --> 00:04:27,255 Speaker 4: with our lawn. It's full of pestelu. How do we 84 00:04:27,295 --> 00:04:28,095 Speaker 4: get rid of it? 85 00:04:29,655 --> 00:04:34,215 Speaker 3: Oh? Gosha, golly, how do you start all over again? 86 00:04:34,815 --> 00:04:35,655 Speaker 3: Is it feasible? 87 00:04:36,415 --> 00:04:36,455 Speaker 5: No? 88 00:04:37,055 --> 00:04:40,175 Speaker 3: Well, no, well there you go, or you keep on 89 00:04:40,575 --> 00:04:43,015 Speaker 3: Well in that case, you do what I do. And 90 00:04:43,055 --> 00:04:45,735 Speaker 3: I've got a lawn that is absolute rubbish, to be 91 00:04:45,775 --> 00:04:49,375 Speaker 3: quite honest, because I actually don't care too much, you know, 92 00:04:50,775 --> 00:04:53,695 Speaker 3: and I just keep on mowing it. And I mow 93 00:04:53,775 --> 00:04:56,575 Speaker 3: it at the right time. I've got a what have 94 00:04:56,655 --> 00:05:00,575 Speaker 3: I got? The delment of some grass, ballygrass? What a 95 00:05:00,855 --> 00:05:03,855 Speaker 3: pained abund that is, And I'm trying to pull it out, 96 00:05:03,975 --> 00:05:06,135 Speaker 3: and I go like, nah, it's not going to work. 97 00:05:06,455 --> 00:05:09,415 Speaker 3: So I literally actually use some wed and forget on 98 00:05:09,495 --> 00:05:11,375 Speaker 3: that sort of stuff where it shouldn't be, where the 99 00:05:11,375 --> 00:05:14,055 Speaker 3: grass shouldn't be. There is a wedd and forget material 100 00:05:14,175 --> 00:05:19,975 Speaker 3: called hitman that actually kills grass. But also are the 101 00:05:20,055 --> 00:05:24,855 Speaker 3: weeds and that sort of stuff within five hours? 102 00:05:25,175 --> 00:05:27,495 Speaker 4: And what does it do to the rest of the law? 103 00:05:29,135 --> 00:05:29,735 Speaker 3: Say that again? 104 00:05:29,775 --> 00:05:32,535 Speaker 4: Sorry, what does it do to the good grasses? 105 00:05:33,815 --> 00:05:35,975 Speaker 3: Oh? And we'll get that as well, there's no doubt 106 00:05:36,015 --> 00:05:38,855 Speaker 3: about us. But that is the way. That's why I'm saying, 107 00:05:38,895 --> 00:05:40,695 Speaker 3: you want to start it? Do you want to start again? 108 00:05:41,135 --> 00:05:44,055 Speaker 3: Get some of that hitman, get rid of all the grass, 109 00:05:44,095 --> 00:05:46,575 Speaker 3: and then reshow from now on new stuff. 110 00:05:46,695 --> 00:05:49,895 Speaker 4: Yeah, well it's not going to be possible. But so 111 00:05:49,935 --> 00:05:50,775 Speaker 4: that's the answer. 112 00:05:51,055 --> 00:05:54,935 Speaker 3: That's very helpful. Thank you. Read well, it's not very 113 00:05:54,935 --> 00:05:56,375 Speaker 3: helpful because it's brinking hot. 114 00:05:58,815 --> 00:06:01,495 Speaker 4: It's helpful to me, but it's you know, I can 115 00:06:01,535 --> 00:06:03,175 Speaker 4: see that there's nothing we can. 116 00:06:03,055 --> 00:06:06,615 Speaker 3: Do read sure, no, Dale, It's it's really true. You 117 00:06:06,615 --> 00:06:09,615 Speaker 3: got to really start again. Yeah, all of this. 118 00:06:09,815 --> 00:06:12,735 Speaker 2: You go, good luck with that, and Barbara, a very 119 00:06:12,775 --> 00:06:13,535 Speaker 2: good morning to you. 120 00:06:14,335 --> 00:06:17,575 Speaker 6: Oh, good morning, Peter, Good morning, Rude. You guys are 121 00:06:17,575 --> 00:06:21,735 Speaker 6: doing a brilliant job, you really are. Sunday morning's never 122 00:06:21,815 --> 00:06:28,335 Speaker 6: been the same for years. I heard a recipe, saw rather, 123 00:06:28,415 --> 00:06:31,215 Speaker 6: a recipe on TV for something to get rid of 124 00:06:31,255 --> 00:06:37,295 Speaker 6: these dreadful golden legged hornet creatures, honey water and dishwash, 125 00:06:37,335 --> 00:06:39,895 Speaker 6: and my first thought was, oh, dear lord, how are 126 00:06:39,895 --> 00:06:44,655 Speaker 6: the bees bumblebees? Was going to differentiate between that and 127 00:06:44,735 --> 00:06:49,935 Speaker 6: something good. The bees are obviously going to be attracted, 128 00:06:50,015 --> 00:06:52,735 Speaker 6: so they're going to end up going to big bee 129 00:06:52,815 --> 00:06:54,615 Speaker 6: land in the sky, aren't they? Rude? 130 00:06:55,575 --> 00:06:58,375 Speaker 3: I think so too. I think that is exactly why 131 00:06:58,415 --> 00:07:00,775 Speaker 3: we need to be brinking care for what we're using 132 00:07:01,175 --> 00:07:04,335 Speaker 3: in these little containers. That's what people are would just say, 133 00:07:04,495 --> 00:07:07,975 Speaker 3: that's exactly it, And it's a it's really really hard 134 00:07:08,015 --> 00:07:11,735 Speaker 3: to do with. Sometimes you can play with the entrances 135 00:07:11,775 --> 00:07:14,095 Speaker 3: of holes, you know, but this is a big one, 136 00:07:14,135 --> 00:07:16,135 Speaker 3: so even the smaller ones can get in, you know 137 00:07:16,175 --> 00:07:19,055 Speaker 3: what I mean. But yeah, on the other hand, on 138 00:07:19,095 --> 00:07:21,855 Speaker 3: the other hand, there are materials that they smell that 139 00:07:22,055 --> 00:07:25,495 Speaker 3: some bees like and hornets don't, or hornets like and 140 00:07:25,535 --> 00:07:28,215 Speaker 3: bees don't. And as long as we can actually work 141 00:07:28,255 --> 00:07:32,255 Speaker 3: that out properly, we can make a trap that will 142 00:07:32,295 --> 00:07:33,055 Speaker 3: actually work. 143 00:07:34,375 --> 00:07:38,215 Speaker 6: Oh look it's heartbreaking. Look it's bad enough going into 144 00:07:38,255 --> 00:07:42,055 Speaker 6: the greenhouse and finding the bloody spiders have spun their 145 00:07:42,095 --> 00:07:45,575 Speaker 6: webs and the little bees have flown into them, tried 146 00:07:45,575 --> 00:07:48,615 Speaker 6: to get out, struggled like hell, can't get out, end 147 00:07:48,695 --> 00:07:51,495 Speaker 6: up dying. I took my pull two out of my 148 00:07:51,575 --> 00:07:55,135 Speaker 6: greenhouse yesterday and honestly, rude, they were no bigger than 149 00:07:55,215 --> 00:07:58,375 Speaker 6: my tiny fingernail. I just stood there and wept. They 150 00:07:58,615 --> 00:08:02,095 Speaker 6: are so I just have to go through my greenhouse 151 00:08:02,135 --> 00:08:05,175 Speaker 6: with a soft broom every so often and try and 152 00:08:05,255 --> 00:08:08,615 Speaker 6: keep the her cobwebs down. 153 00:08:09,975 --> 00:08:13,095 Speaker 3: Barbara, You're absolutely right. I've got a tunnel house, I've 154 00:08:13,095 --> 00:08:14,975 Speaker 3: got my tomatoes, I've got all the other stuff there. 155 00:08:15,055 --> 00:08:18,015 Speaker 3: You're absolutely right. And what I tend to do because 156 00:08:18,055 --> 00:08:22,135 Speaker 3: I like my spiders, but I also know that the pollinators, 157 00:08:22,175 --> 00:08:26,135 Speaker 3: which in my case are bumblebees and also native bees. 158 00:08:26,375 --> 00:08:28,975 Speaker 3: Is that the small ones that you're talking about, the native. 159 00:08:28,695 --> 00:08:31,495 Speaker 6: Bees, Well, any kind of bees. 160 00:08:32,335 --> 00:08:35,295 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, sure, sure. But here comes to thing. What 161 00:08:35,335 --> 00:08:37,015 Speaker 3: I do is I take a little brush with me 162 00:08:37,055 --> 00:08:38,615 Speaker 3: and I take those websites out. 163 00:08:39,575 --> 00:08:42,175 Speaker 6: Yeah, well I do. I go through the greenhouse with 164 00:08:42,255 --> 00:08:47,135 Speaker 6: a long, a long handled broom soft brush and they 165 00:08:47,175 --> 00:08:50,575 Speaker 6: seem to collect in one place. And I'll tell you another. 166 00:08:50,735 --> 00:08:57,015 Speaker 6: I've discovered another an organic weed killer equal parts of 167 00:08:57,095 --> 00:09:00,335 Speaker 6: lemon juice and brown vinegar. You can use white, but 168 00:09:00,375 --> 00:09:04,135 Speaker 6: brown is more effective and it's absolutely brilliant. You can 169 00:09:04,255 --> 00:09:07,935 Speaker 6: use it around your pets, your insect and all they 170 00:09:08,015 --> 00:09:10,215 Speaker 6: get is a wrinkled up nose. That the taste and 171 00:09:10,255 --> 00:09:13,655 Speaker 6: the smell of it, and it's just just brilliant because 172 00:09:13,695 --> 00:09:16,815 Speaker 6: I grow organic. You see it, all parts of lemon 173 00:09:16,855 --> 00:09:20,815 Speaker 6: juice and brown brown vinegar. People there you go much 174 00:09:21,135 --> 00:09:21,735 Speaker 6: love time. 175 00:09:23,575 --> 00:09:26,175 Speaker 3: And you know what's interesting that the things that that 176 00:09:26,375 --> 00:09:29,655 Speaker 3: Peter and I just talked about that came from America 177 00:09:29,695 --> 00:09:32,775 Speaker 3: and it also used that brown vinegar, and it often 178 00:09:32,935 --> 00:09:36,655 Speaker 3: uses that citrus juice as well. They're wine juice. It's 179 00:09:36,695 --> 00:09:39,375 Speaker 3: an interesting there's an interesting attraction. That's a good point 180 00:09:39,415 --> 00:09:40,735 Speaker 3: to hear that, Barbara, thanks. 181 00:09:41,215 --> 00:09:43,015 Speaker 2: It seems to be a common element, doesn't it to 182 00:09:43,135 --> 00:09:45,775 Speaker 2: use like the dishwashing liquid seems to be the part 183 00:09:45,855 --> 00:09:49,535 Speaker 2: that repels the bees that we want to look after. 184 00:09:50,655 --> 00:09:52,495 Speaker 2: But it doesn't dissuade the hornets. 185 00:09:53,855 --> 00:09:57,775 Speaker 3: No, because they have no sense of humor. They come anyway. 186 00:09:57,815 --> 00:09:59,735 Speaker 2: All right, right, we're going to take a short break. 187 00:09:59,775 --> 00:10:02,055 Speaker 2: We'll be back in just a moment. Is with us 188 00:10:02,095 --> 00:10:14,695 Speaker 2: and we'll talk to Glenn after the break. Right, Oh, 189 00:10:15,175 --> 00:10:18,175 Speaker 2: is with us this morning on here at new stalk 190 00:10:18,215 --> 00:10:20,615 Speaker 2: sib and Lean, Good morning to you. 191 00:10:22,255 --> 00:10:24,255 Speaker 5: Okay it guys, there you go. And I really appreciate 192 00:10:24,255 --> 00:10:26,295 Speaker 5: your show. I always look forward to it on the weekend. 193 00:10:28,335 --> 00:10:28,655 Speaker 3: Rude. 194 00:10:29,175 --> 00:10:32,895 Speaker 5: I was just wondering, I've noticed a couple of moths 195 00:10:33,255 --> 00:10:35,975 Speaker 5: and my wardrobe. I always kept the wardrobe door open. 196 00:10:36,975 --> 00:10:39,135 Speaker 5: I've got business ships in there, and I'd like to 197 00:10:39,255 --> 00:10:46,775 Speaker 5: keep them quite nice and edge question do you put 198 00:10:46,855 --> 00:10:50,975 Speaker 5: mosfels in there? And what are they? And what sort 199 00:10:51,015 --> 00:10:52,015 Speaker 5: of damage for the moss? 200 00:10:52,055 --> 00:10:52,095 Speaker 6: Do? 201 00:10:53,735 --> 00:10:55,855 Speaker 3: Right? Okay, first of all, I need to tell you 202 00:10:55,895 --> 00:10:57,975 Speaker 3: what you need to tell me what those How big 203 00:10:58,015 --> 00:10:58,735 Speaker 3: are those moths? 204 00:10:59,775 --> 00:11:04,695 Speaker 5: They're quite small. I guess the size of half my 205 00:11:04,855 --> 00:11:05,855 Speaker 5: little fingernail. 206 00:11:07,375 --> 00:11:08,655 Speaker 3: Okay, right? Color? 207 00:11:10,215 --> 00:11:14,815 Speaker 5: Uh sort of base? I guess the base? 208 00:11:14,975 --> 00:11:17,615 Speaker 3: Do you live in crush here in the morning. Sorry, 209 00:11:18,735 --> 00:11:19,975 Speaker 3: do you live in crush Hue? 210 00:11:21,095 --> 00:11:21,895 Speaker 5: No, I'm in Auckland. 211 00:11:23,055 --> 00:11:26,295 Speaker 3: In Auckland, Okay, I'm just asking because we've got a 212 00:11:26,375 --> 00:11:30,215 Speaker 3: clothes moss here that is almost slightly more golden then 213 00:11:30,615 --> 00:11:34,215 Speaker 3: that color you mentioned. But and it's and it's very small, 214 00:11:34,255 --> 00:11:37,535 Speaker 3: and it's got a lovely orange flap on its head 215 00:11:37,575 --> 00:11:43,135 Speaker 3: if you like, almost lovely hairy thing. And okay, go on, 216 00:11:43,255 --> 00:11:45,015 Speaker 3: but what yeah, all right, go on? 217 00:11:45,095 --> 00:11:45,535 Speaker 4: What else? 218 00:11:47,255 --> 00:11:47,535 Speaker 7: Sorry? 219 00:11:47,575 --> 00:11:49,735 Speaker 5: I haven't been able to capture one because I haven't 220 00:11:50,575 --> 00:11:52,495 Speaker 5: been able to get close to it. But I'm just 221 00:11:52,535 --> 00:11:57,495 Speaker 5: sort of wondering, you know, what is the consensus or what? 222 00:11:58,135 --> 00:12:01,815 Speaker 3: All right? You you want to be safe here? You can't. 223 00:12:01,855 --> 00:12:05,415 Speaker 3: We can't muck around. I mean I could probably, you know, 224 00:12:05,495 --> 00:12:08,055 Speaker 3: added for a small fee, I'll fly over to Auckland 225 00:12:08,055 --> 00:12:12,895 Speaker 3: and identify it for you. But you know what I mean. 226 00:12:13,775 --> 00:12:17,735 Speaker 3: But that's a bit tricky. So if you think there 227 00:12:17,735 --> 00:12:20,215 Speaker 3: and it's more than one or two, there seems to 228 00:12:20,215 --> 00:12:22,935 Speaker 3: be it seems to be a number of them that 229 00:12:22,975 --> 00:12:24,655 Speaker 3: you makes you a bit worried, right. 230 00:12:25,415 --> 00:12:27,455 Speaker 5: No, I just I just say, like I've worked up 231 00:12:27,455 --> 00:12:30,375 Speaker 5: a couple of mornings and I've just seen a couple 232 00:12:30,415 --> 00:12:32,295 Speaker 5: fly out, and that's sort of like, you know, can 233 00:12:32,335 --> 00:12:35,055 Speaker 5: you tell us what they do and what the general 234 00:12:35,135 --> 00:12:36,175 Speaker 5: consensus is about. 235 00:12:36,335 --> 00:12:36,535 Speaker 7: Yeah. 236 00:12:36,695 --> 00:12:42,055 Speaker 3: Then we have about fifteen hundred different species of moths 237 00:12:42,095 --> 00:12:44,375 Speaker 3: in New Zealand. It's really hard a to tell over 238 00:12:44,415 --> 00:12:47,175 Speaker 3: the phone where they are be to guess what they are. 239 00:12:47,935 --> 00:12:49,975 Speaker 3: But I can imagine that if they like to live 240 00:12:49,975 --> 00:12:53,135 Speaker 3: in your wardrobe, it could be anything, it could be harmless. 241 00:12:53,895 --> 00:12:56,055 Speaker 3: But here comes the thing. The best thing for you 242 00:12:56,135 --> 00:12:59,055 Speaker 3: to do is to get yourself an aerosol can that 243 00:12:59,215 --> 00:13:02,695 Speaker 3: will last quite a long time. And there is a 244 00:13:02,775 --> 00:13:05,895 Speaker 3: company in Auckland in a couple of places that's called 245 00:13:06,055 --> 00:13:09,935 Speaker 3: say if works one word safe works, and the X 246 00:13:10,335 --> 00:13:14,375 Speaker 3: is the last letter. Safe works with an X, they 247 00:13:14,415 --> 00:13:18,375 Speaker 3: have an insecticide that we use in aircraft to make 248 00:13:18,415 --> 00:13:21,855 Speaker 3: sure that we don't get new creatures and coming into 249 00:13:21,855 --> 00:13:26,695 Speaker 3: the country through airlines. Okay, if you can get one 250 00:13:26,735 --> 00:13:28,255 Speaker 3: of those, particular. 251 00:13:29,855 --> 00:13:30,455 Speaker 7: If you like. 252 00:13:31,935 --> 00:13:35,975 Speaker 3: Things that that that that bring that insecticide into your 253 00:13:36,535 --> 00:13:39,535 Speaker 3: into your wardrobes or into your bedroom or wherever they are, 254 00:13:39,935 --> 00:13:42,775 Speaker 3: do it just gently in a in a quick way, 255 00:13:43,215 --> 00:13:46,175 Speaker 3: into the into the wardrobe, close it down, let it 256 00:13:46,215 --> 00:13:50,975 Speaker 3: be and you'll find for the next six to twelve months, 257 00:13:51,695 --> 00:13:56,855 Speaker 3: nobody will go into that wardrobe and do anything or 258 00:13:56,975 --> 00:13:59,935 Speaker 3: don't do anything, whatever they are. But the point is 259 00:13:59,935 --> 00:14:03,495 Speaker 3: that it's the safest way to protect your your clothes 260 00:14:03,535 --> 00:14:06,375 Speaker 3: in this case, from being a target. And even if 261 00:14:06,375 --> 00:14:09,415 Speaker 3: it's not one of those creatures that does close or 262 00:14:09,455 --> 00:14:12,495 Speaker 3: clothes moss or whatever, then at least you haven't got 263 00:14:12,495 --> 00:14:13,455 Speaker 3: the other bugger's there. 264 00:14:14,655 --> 00:14:17,855 Speaker 2: Okay, check out safe Works and it's it's safe Works 265 00:14:17,895 --> 00:14:22,015 Speaker 2: spelt with an X on the end. Okay, thank you 266 00:14:22,095 --> 00:14:25,615 Speaker 2: very much, all this best to you. Funnily enough, I 267 00:14:25,655 --> 00:14:27,695 Speaker 2: was looking at the safe Works website just the other 268 00:14:27,775 --> 00:14:29,535 Speaker 2: day because I was looking for the same sort of 269 00:14:29,575 --> 00:14:32,655 Speaker 2: spray you know, for Bora and that sort of thing, 270 00:14:33,535 --> 00:14:35,895 Speaker 2: and and also discover that there are stockists of the 271 00:14:35,895 --> 00:14:40,135 Speaker 2: boots that I wear, so APIs boots there as well. 272 00:14:40,175 --> 00:14:44,095 Speaker 2: I'm like, ah, that's good with mine. Maybe I can 273 00:14:44,095 --> 00:14:46,535 Speaker 2: get another from them. 274 00:14:46,895 --> 00:14:49,695 Speaker 3: You go and talk to these guys at safe Works. 275 00:14:49,735 --> 00:14:51,655 Speaker 3: They'll be quite happy to have a look at you, 276 00:14:51,975 --> 00:14:54,695 Speaker 3: because I told them the same in christ Yeah. 277 00:14:56,135 --> 00:14:57,855 Speaker 2: Yeah, So if you're looking for the APIs boots, you 278 00:14:57,855 --> 00:15:01,015 Speaker 2: can find them at safe Works. Right, let's get amongst Paul, 279 00:15:01,135 --> 00:15:02,015 Speaker 2: good morning. 280 00:15:02,935 --> 00:15:05,255 Speaker 7: Good morning, and thank you very much for taking the 281 00:15:05,295 --> 00:15:12,255 Speaker 7: call age old problems dreaded them off around the apples. 282 00:15:12,855 --> 00:15:14,775 Speaker 7: I managed to get on top of it this year. 283 00:15:15,455 --> 00:15:21,655 Speaker 7: But I've gone back from what's what's that one that 284 00:15:21,735 --> 00:15:26,495 Speaker 7: you use? No, I'll come mad x so X. Yes, 285 00:15:27,975 --> 00:15:31,415 Speaker 7: Medex three didn't. It didn't have much success with it, 286 00:15:31,935 --> 00:15:34,815 Speaker 7: but I've mixed it with success, which I used in 287 00:15:34,935 --> 00:15:38,535 Speaker 7: previous years, and my apple tree years, or both of them. 288 00:15:38,695 --> 00:15:43,015 Speaker 7: Three of them are brilliant this year. And the only 289 00:15:43,095 --> 00:15:46,095 Speaker 7: problem now is how do I kick the birds away 290 00:15:46,095 --> 00:15:48,455 Speaker 7: from them? I get a chance to let them grow, 291 00:15:48,855 --> 00:15:53,295 Speaker 7: you know, to come right and eat them. 292 00:15:53,495 --> 00:15:56,135 Speaker 3: First of all, let's talk about Medex and success and 293 00:15:56,175 --> 00:16:00,055 Speaker 3: things like that. It's all about the timing. And the 294 00:16:00,095 --> 00:16:04,935 Speaker 3: timing is literally the week or two after flowering that 295 00:16:05,095 --> 00:16:09,055 Speaker 3: you do that, because that when the little coddlings which 296 00:16:09,095 --> 00:16:11,495 Speaker 3: is an old fashioned English word for a tiny apple 297 00:16:11,535 --> 00:16:15,495 Speaker 3: as it develops, When the little coddlings start to grow 298 00:16:15,535 --> 00:16:18,935 Speaker 3: after the flowering, if you like, that's when these these 299 00:16:18,975 --> 00:16:21,575 Speaker 3: moths are laying their eggs on those particular things. So 300 00:16:21,615 --> 00:16:26,135 Speaker 3: that's the timing thing, right. What else? 301 00:16:26,375 --> 00:16:29,455 Speaker 7: Sorry, what was the other thing you were asking keep 302 00:16:29,535 --> 00:16:30,495 Speaker 7: the birds away. 303 00:16:31,615 --> 00:16:36,215 Speaker 3: Ah, the birds, yeah, blinking heck, that's a netting trick. 304 00:16:37,335 --> 00:16:40,015 Speaker 3: Mind you. Having said that, I do not have great 305 00:16:40,055 --> 00:16:43,255 Speaker 3: troubles with birds on my apples for the simple reason 306 00:16:43,495 --> 00:16:46,255 Speaker 3: that I don't have holes in the apples. Once you 307 00:16:46,375 --> 00:16:48,415 Speaker 3: got holes in the apples, the birds will go, Oh, 308 00:16:48,495 --> 00:16:51,295 Speaker 3: somebody's made the holes easier for me to have access. 309 00:16:51,575 --> 00:16:55,175 Speaker 3: Let's ever go oi, you come on, let's go apples. 310 00:16:55,495 --> 00:16:57,415 Speaker 3: That's how it works, you know what I mean. So 311 00:16:57,775 --> 00:17:01,015 Speaker 3: once you stop this whole thing, you'll find that the 312 00:17:01,055 --> 00:17:03,495 Speaker 3: birds will become less traumatic as well. 313 00:17:04,655 --> 00:17:09,215 Speaker 7: Yeah, thank you very much. Yes, no, that's great. It's 314 00:17:09,775 --> 00:17:11,415 Speaker 7: going to solve a problem in half for me. 315 00:17:14,655 --> 00:17:17,335 Speaker 2: Good luck with that, Pa, All the very best to you. 316 00:17:17,535 --> 00:17:20,095 Speaker 2: And Bruce silver leaf. 317 00:17:20,575 --> 00:17:23,055 Speaker 7: Yes, hello, how are you? 318 00:17:24,055 --> 00:17:25,415 Speaker 8: I have silver leafs? 319 00:17:26,775 --> 00:17:27,255 Speaker 3: Yeah, my. 320 00:17:28,775 --> 00:17:30,335 Speaker 5: And my Portuguese. 321 00:17:29,815 --> 00:17:32,135 Speaker 3: Laurel, and I heard you talk about you couldn't use 322 00:17:32,175 --> 00:17:34,055 Speaker 3: copper because you'll kill off all the new growth. 323 00:17:35,015 --> 00:17:36,335 Speaker 5: And I have prune teg. 324 00:17:37,135 --> 00:17:39,855 Speaker 7: But when you're trimming something around to make it night 325 00:17:39,935 --> 00:17:40,895 Speaker 7: into a nice. 326 00:17:41,135 --> 00:17:45,415 Speaker 3: Hedge, hang hang on, well, Bruce, Bruce, Bruce, hang on? 327 00:17:45,735 --> 00:17:54,175 Speaker 3: Silver leaf or a leaf cool that's been green color silver? 328 00:17:54,855 --> 00:17:56,815 Speaker 2: It sounds like you're calling from the moon. 329 00:17:57,535 --> 00:17:59,975 Speaker 3: When it's great, sounds good? 330 00:18:00,615 --> 00:18:03,775 Speaker 2: Did it sound pretty hard while it's beautiful the old 331 00:18:03,855 --> 00:18:08,415 Speaker 2: nightclub days, it's instead dye. 332 00:18:09,975 --> 00:18:14,015 Speaker 8: Hi there, guys, we've got we're doing like a neighborhood 333 00:18:14,055 --> 00:18:17,775 Speaker 8: watch on this hornet thing. We've got twelve townhouses in 334 00:18:17,815 --> 00:18:20,615 Speaker 8: our body corporate and we're all having a really good 335 00:18:20,615 --> 00:18:22,855 Speaker 8: go to have a go at catching. We're in Albany 336 00:18:22,975 --> 00:18:25,535 Speaker 8: in Auckland, so we're not far from where the nests 337 00:18:25,695 --> 00:18:32,415 Speaker 8: were bound. But we've all bought from Bunnings and Mighty ten. 338 00:18:32,575 --> 00:18:35,455 Speaker 8: We've got the hanging hornet nests for them to go 339 00:18:35,655 --> 00:18:38,895 Speaker 8: up into the MPI are using. We managed to get 340 00:18:39,575 --> 00:18:42,175 Speaker 8: hold of five of those. And then we've got the 341 00:18:42,335 --> 00:18:46,255 Speaker 8: packets sachet food for the German waft, which is supposed 342 00:18:46,295 --> 00:18:50,415 Speaker 8: to be a protein based one, but everyone's got baits 343 00:18:50,495 --> 00:18:54,095 Speaker 8: and packets and they're homemade recipes and that. But one 344 00:18:54,135 --> 00:18:57,575 Speaker 8: of the elderly ladies she's got she just got the 345 00:18:57,575 --> 00:19:02,615 Speaker 8: Bunnings Echo waft sashets and made mud. Her trap is 346 00:19:02,695 --> 00:19:05,615 Speaker 8: quite her trap, three traps are quite large. But she's 347 00:19:05,615 --> 00:19:10,415 Speaker 8: getting over a liter of flies a week and I'm 348 00:19:10,415 --> 00:19:12,855 Speaker 8: the person having to clean them out for her, and 349 00:19:12,895 --> 00:19:17,615 Speaker 8: I'm just founded, and I haven't found a wasp in 350 00:19:17,735 --> 00:19:21,135 Speaker 8: the year a German or English or none of the 351 00:19:21,255 --> 00:19:24,935 Speaker 8: nations have come to visit those tracks. So a Lisa 352 00:19:25,495 --> 00:19:30,095 Speaker 8: a week of flies right, amazing And it's not the 353 00:19:30,135 --> 00:19:34,135 Speaker 8: fly bait. She's definitely got the wasp bait. So we 354 00:19:34,295 --> 00:19:37,695 Speaker 8: just wondered if we should change her track to your 355 00:19:37,775 --> 00:19:42,775 Speaker 8: recipe because we think we've cleared out most of the 356 00:19:42,815 --> 00:19:44,775 Speaker 8: flies in Albany. 357 00:19:44,895 --> 00:19:45,375 Speaker 2: Good luck. 358 00:19:45,655 --> 00:19:49,495 Speaker 3: Yeah, I know what you're saying, all right now, I'll 359 00:19:49,495 --> 00:19:52,495 Speaker 3: tell you what some of the most important ingredients are 360 00:19:52,535 --> 00:19:55,695 Speaker 3: that I noticed online from people that have been working 361 00:19:55,735 --> 00:19:58,215 Speaker 3: on this, and there was some that was involved with 362 00:19:58,335 --> 00:20:00,695 Speaker 3: of course water and things like that, but also sugar, 363 00:20:01,335 --> 00:20:06,655 Speaker 3: yeast and the dish washing liquid which which stops some 364 00:20:06,695 --> 00:20:09,415 Speaker 3: of these other guys getting in there. That's another story, 365 00:20:10,495 --> 00:20:13,535 Speaker 3: but but so this is the point. It is just 366 00:20:13,695 --> 00:20:17,895 Speaker 3: a matter of I would suggest going to mp I 367 00:20:18,135 --> 00:20:21,855 Speaker 3: and see if they've got some more new and better 368 00:20:22,455 --> 00:20:26,015 Speaker 3: examples on their websites that would help you out, because 369 00:20:26,055 --> 00:20:28,335 Speaker 3: if you get flies, that's to me not the right 370 00:20:28,415 --> 00:20:31,815 Speaker 3: that's not the right attractant. Yeah. 371 00:20:32,015 --> 00:20:36,375 Speaker 8: Yeah, like her three trips quite large, they're one and 372 00:20:36,375 --> 00:20:38,975 Speaker 8: a half. Leader said, each week I've cleaned out a 373 00:20:39,135 --> 00:20:45,175 Speaker 8: letter of deep blowflies. It's disgusting. But yeah, no, no 374 00:20:45,335 --> 00:20:48,055 Speaker 8: other by Catcher there. There is no what it's not 375 00:20:48,375 --> 00:20:52,735 Speaker 8: doing one it's just during the fly, so our other ones. 376 00:20:53,495 --> 00:20:54,895 Speaker 2: I'll tell you what we'll do. We might do a 377 00:20:54,895 --> 00:20:56,495 Speaker 2: bit more research. I'm going to have a go at 378 00:20:56,535 --> 00:21:00,175 Speaker 2: your recipe. Uh, and then we'll we'll talk about it. 379 00:21:00,175 --> 00:21:01,575 Speaker 2: We might even get mp I on the show. 380 00:21:02,935 --> 00:21:04,015 Speaker 3: Yeah, let's do it, mate. 381 00:21:04,055 --> 00:21:07,135 Speaker 2: I have a great trip and enjoyed the taching this week. 382 00:21:07,335 --> 00:21:09,855 Speaker 2: All the very best to you folks, thanks for your company. 383 00:21:10,055 --> 00:21:13,575 Speaker 2: Saint Leo school Fair, ten o'clock today, see you there. 384 00:21:13,095 --> 00:21:14,295 Speaker 7: You live. 385 00:21:55,615 --> 00:21:58,575 Speaker 1: For more from the Resident Builder with Peter Wolfcamp. Listen 386 00:21:58,655 --> 00:22:01,455 Speaker 1: live to news talks'd be on Sunday mornings from six, 387 00:22:01,775 --> 00:22:03,815 Speaker 1: or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio.