Speaker 1: You're listening to the Weekend Collective podcast from news Talks.
Speaker 2: Right now, it is time for the panel and to introduce.
Speaker 2: I normally come up with some sort of smart ale
Speaker 2: introduction for my guests, especially if they're a bit long
Speaker 2: in the tooth. But I thought, but I thought, no,
Speaker 2: not this time. He is the silver Fox of journalism.
Speaker 2: He's an institution. He's Mark Kreisel.
Speaker 1: Mark.
Speaker 3: Hello, how are you? Shortest one ever? What's that?
Speaker 4: That's the shortest one ever? Well, but I've parodied you
Speaker 4: too much? Yes, but how are you? I'm good, mate.
Speaker 4: You don't get a body like this without a lot
Speaker 4: of hard work. Thank god, I'm on radio.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and he's sort of a silver fox, but not
Speaker 2: quite as silver.
Speaker 3: It was just as much of a fox, of course.
Speaker 3: He's the resident builder Fox. It is Pete Wolfcamp.
Speaker 5: Hello, Pete.
Speaker 2: I don't know where that long in the tooth thing
Speaker 2: came out of. We're all long in the tooth, aren't we?
Speaker 2: Well beyond your generation?
Speaker 3: Zed? That sounds like you're just digging a big hole
Speaker 3: for yourself. Yeah, okay, I think let's move on to
Speaker 3: but how are you? Pete?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 5: I'm pretty good.
Speaker 4: Thank you.
Speaker 3: Keeping out of mischief.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's still plenty on.
Speaker 3: So how much time do you spend on the tools
Speaker 3: these days?
Speaker 5: I hung a door yesterday, well, hung very well. Oh no,
Speaker 5: just slotted straight in.
Speaker 4: It's really fantastic.
Speaker 3: That was great. Does that mean you're not spending a
Speaker 3: lot of the hanging of a door as.
Speaker 5: Your your extraordinary part of my week? To be fair,
Speaker 5: it had been a job that I'd promised someone that
Speaker 5: I would do for a long time, and then for
Speaker 5: any number of reasons, I didn't get round to doing it.
Speaker 5: And then yesterday it was like, right, I'm going to
Speaker 5: go and do that.
Speaker 4: Hanging your door must be sorry, Peter, hanging your door
Speaker 4: must be hard, harder than it looks.
Speaker 2: It looks hard. Actually, be honest, I think just right,
Speaker 2: you know.
Speaker 5: I feel I've got to be completely honest. It was
Speaker 5: a kitchen door, right, so it's too click on it
Speaker 5: just okay, okay. But yes, doors have this magical ability
Speaker 5: where you can take a door off, work on it,
Speaker 5: and when you go to hang it again, it's chained shape. Yeah,
Speaker 5: it won't fit. It happens almost every single time.
Speaker 3: And that's are you talking about?
Speaker 2: If you just take it off at the hinges or
Speaker 2: if you actually take off the hinge plates and all that.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you can drive the pins out and you go
Speaker 5: put it back in and it doesn't fit.
Speaker 4: Years ago, a long time, another life away. I used
Speaker 4: to be a fencing contract and.
Speaker 3: I think that was part of one of your other introductions.
Speaker 4: We've moved on from that. We've moved on, but used
Speaker 4: to hang gates and it was it was so hard
Speaker 4: just getting it right.
Speaker 3: I took a lot of a fence from that. Oh god,
Speaker 3: do we have a drum roll for that? There we go.
Speaker 5: I brother used to do of fencing in this company
Speaker 5: was called Parry and Thrust.
Speaker 3: That's not bad.
Speaker 2: Actually that is quite a good name for a fencing company.
Speaker 3: A little confusing for some.
Speaker 2: But yeah, hey, now the Olympics are underway. Firstly, are
Speaker 2: you guys Olympic junkies?
Speaker 3: Are're looking forward to the Olympics?
Speaker 5: Peter, I don't know if i'd describe myself as an
Speaker 5: Olympic junkie, but there there are parts of it that
Speaker 5: will be spectacular. I'm not sure about them. I'm not
Speaker 5: going to start for the breakdancing, for example. All this
Speaker 5: is skateboarding in there as well.
Speaker 4: Yeah, skateboarding surfing will be amazing.
Speaker 3: Yes.
Speaker 5: I saw those waves out at Tahiti in Chiapu.
Speaker 4: It's like one of the scariest, most spectacular waves in
Speaker 4: the world.
Speaker 3: And I love this.
Speaker 4: Like they've got the sailing of Marseille, they've got the
Speaker 4: surfing in Tahiti. I think it's yeah, they've made the
Speaker 4: most had the opening ceremony.
Speaker 2: Yes, well, before we get onto that, actually that you
Speaker 2: mentioned the breakdancing because you have written off the back
Speaker 2: break dancing, I think there's going to be a lot
Speaker 2: of curious watching and you're probably gonna look at it
Speaker 2: and go, how.
Speaker 3: The hell do that?
Speaker 5: Sure, it's spectacular, I'm just not sure that it qualifies.
Speaker 2: As swimming snchronized swimming. I mean, that's one of the
Speaker 2: joys of life times and.
Speaker 4: The Olympics are one of those things you grow into
Speaker 4: Like when they come it's like, oh my god, it's
Speaker 4: the Olympics again. And then as you you grow into it,
Speaker 4: you know you got is the athletics and there's something
Speaker 4: amazing there, or there's a weightlifted doing something extraordinary, and
Speaker 4: once those personnelity do start to grow with it, you
Speaker 4: get into it. But I don't think it's something you
Speaker 4: look forward to as much.
Speaker 5: Looking forward to the Veldrome events. Yeah, the Karen and
Speaker 5: they those things.
Speaker 3: That's phenomenal.
Speaker 4: Well.
Speaker 2: Actually, the thing is there's so much to choose from.
Speaker 2: As I went to have a look at the guide
Speaker 2: and thinking what am I going to watch? When you realize,
Speaker 2: you know, there's just you can't keep up with it
Speaker 2: all obviously because it's just so much. I used to
Speaker 2: traditionally used to love the gymnastics because I don't know,
Speaker 2: it's just in the days where we only had one
Speaker 2: or two channels probably, But the track and field we've
Speaker 2: I mean, we've got the prospect of some medals on
Speaker 2: the track and field, which to me, to me, a
Speaker 2: track and field medal is pretty much the ultimate for
Speaker 2: Olympics because I don't know why, but because it's just
Speaker 2: I mean, the idea of Hamish getting a gold medal
Speaker 2: or possibly in the in the Hamish care Actually I
Speaker 2: suddenly had a mental blank on his name. But Eliza
Speaker 2: McCartney could be in there as well, I think.
Speaker 4: God, and I apologize, but I forget her name. That
Speaker 4: great woman's sprinter, Oh Hobbs so hot, so she's amazing
Speaker 4: and she comes from Taranaki as well, which makes it
Speaker 4: doubly amazing.
Speaker 2: So no, I actually I think I think if she
Speaker 2: gets the final, that.
Speaker 5: Would be just I think the final would be amazing.
Speaker 2: To get to the semi final would be pretty good
Speaker 2: as well. But there's something about I mean, well, to me,
Speaker 2: getting into the semi final final of one hundred meters
Speaker 2: is one of the greater Olympic achievements I can think of,
Speaker 2: because I don't know, it's just it's the ultimate, the sprint,
Speaker 2: the track and field, isn't it.
Speaker 4: I remember as a kid we were living in Wellington
Speaker 4: at the time. I was going to Plympton School and
Speaker 4: one of the teacher's husbands was a member of the
Speaker 4: rowing eight and he brought his gold medal to school
Speaker 4: and I just wasn't in the class. She wasn't my teacher,
Speaker 4: but I remember walking past that classroom and catching a
Speaker 4: glimpse of it through the window. Wow, and oh my god,
Speaker 4: what a thrill. And I think there's something about the
Speaker 4: Olympics with those athletes that come from a lot of
Speaker 4: small towns, come from all over New Zealand, and not
Speaker 4: all just from Auckland or Wellington or christ Church. There's
Speaker 4: something really aspirational about it.
Speaker 3: I love that about them.
Speaker 2: I'm not I wasn't really and I'm not really into
Speaker 2: some of the sports that have their own masters, like
Speaker 2: the tennis and the golf, And in a way, I
Speaker 2: wasn't really that into the Sevens until I watched the
Speaker 2: guys play their first game against South Africa, and I thought,
Speaker 2: this team are amazing and I couldn't believe again and lost.
Speaker 2: I just thought the skill level, and I suddenly realized
Speaker 2: how much I cared about the Sevens. I didn't realize
Speaker 2: until until I watched. But it's because in that first
Speaker 2: game against South Africa, the skill level and just we
Speaker 2: just looked amazing.
Speaker 3: And then and then I don't know why.
Speaker 2: We faced how did we face a team that we
Speaker 2: beaten pool play and ended up facing them for the quarterfinals.
Speaker 2: But anyway, yes, okay, let's move on to the opening ceremony. Mark,
Speaker 2: you haven't seen.
Speaker 4: It, No, I haven't, so you guys can't say anything
Speaker 4: spoiler alert.
Speaker 3: I'll watch it late.
Speaker 4: I watched, and I'm not really an opening ceremonies kind
Speaker 4: of guy, but I did love the London one where
Speaker 4: they threw the queen out of helicopter James Bond and
Speaker 4: they built the beautiful hill with all the villages and
Speaker 4: things like that. I thought that was amazing. So I
Speaker 4: will have a look at the Paris one. You guys
Speaker 4: need to tell me if it's worth it. I look, Peter,
Speaker 4: where you go.
Speaker 5: Well, judging by the noise coming from the front room
Speaker 5: at my place while I was having a snooze, it
Speaker 5: sounded spectacular and I caught the end. And what I
Speaker 5: absolutely love is the way in which Paris has been showcased.
Speaker 5: I think by putting so many of the events in
Speaker 5: the city. You know, I think the beach volleyball is
Speaker 5: going to be, you know, within viewing distance of the
Speaker 5: Eiffel Tower. I mean, that's spectacular. And so if you've
Speaker 5: got all of these fantastic, well renowned, you know, iconic
Speaker 5: in the best sense of the word locations, why not
Speaker 5: have your games right there? I think that's spectacular.
Speaker 2: Of course, the big core was them to have to
Speaker 2: not have the opening ceremony in a stadium, and to
Speaker 2: feature Paris, and to have it along the Seine. And look,
Speaker 2: it's an incredibly long ceremony. Every opening ceremony is long
Speaker 2: because you're in the parade of athletes and things, and
Speaker 2: they interspersed it with different acts. Lady Gaga was there.
Speaker 2: I actually thought I thought it was just brilliant. It's
Speaker 2: funny you see people. I don't think Australia liked it
Speaker 2: because everyone everyone in Australia expect their team to be early.
Speaker 2: But of course they were towards the end because I
Speaker 2: think they're hosting in about eight years time or something.
Speaker 2: But I just looked at it was so French and
Speaker 2: I'm a bit of a Francophile. I love you know,
Speaker 2: I love Paris. I thought it was absolutely brilliant. But
Speaker 2: of course it's all in real time, so you can't
Speaker 2: people are so used to their Instagram feeds. So when
Speaker 2: the horse, you know, the horse gets off the Seine
Speaker 2: and it sort of has that transition, it's in real time,
Speaker 2: so you they were interspersing it with different clips and things.
Speaker 2: But the bit that nailed me totally was Celine Dion
Speaker 2: seeing at the end. And the reason was I knew
Speaker 2: she was, you know, we'd heard she was singing and
Speaker 2: she was going to and I'd read that and watch
Speaker 2: it live, watched it delayed on you you should sing
Speaker 2: on the Eiffel Tower, and I thought, you know, we
Speaker 2: know what she's been through with her with his stiff
Speaker 2: person syndrome and the loss of her voice and her
Speaker 2: recuperation on it. And I was ready for it to
Speaker 2: be quite a frail but sort of good enough representation.
Speaker 2: And she stood up that and she there and she
Speaker 2: blew me away. I think it was probably one of
Speaker 2: the more moving things I've seen it along tear streaming
Speaker 2: in my checks. I was I was quite overcome by.
Speaker 5: This.
Speaker 2: Might be it crank it up of it there anyway,
Speaker 2: So she and it's one of my favorite songs as well,
Speaker 2: Edith PF, because I was thinking they're going to do
Speaker 2: a bit of ed PF and she came on singing.
Speaker 3: That and I thought it was just I gave it.
Speaker 3: I thought it was sublime. What about you, Pete.
Speaker 5: Look, maybe I don't have the quite like anytion you
Speaker 5: do with it, but no, Look, I think it's also
Speaker 5: the human story because she's been quite open about in
Speaker 5: the struggles that she's been through. I thought it was
Speaker 5: a phenomenal recovery or interlude in her illness or whatever.
Speaker 5: So to see her there exemplified something of the human spirit,
Speaker 5: and that's beautiful.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think so and one of the I mean
Speaker 2: I did see some it was it was a fairly
Speaker 2: gender diverse sort of parade as well. I think Fox
Speaker 2: News pundits we're not very happy with it.
Speaker 3: But I was like, how, it's just so French, you
Speaker 3: do what.
Speaker 4: French a jot about what anybody filled the anglers.
Speaker 3: Well, actually there's a reason the French a bit arrogant.
Speaker 4: They have good reasons to be. Yeah, that's true. I
Speaker 4: love the French as well. I think they're They're hilarious, infuriating.
Speaker 5: And to point out that when the fire broke out
Speaker 5: in Notre Dame, right, that's mark On went, we're going
Speaker 5: to fix it, which they have and he said we're
Speaker 5: going to do it by the Olympics, which they didn't.
Speaker 5: But I'm taking nothing away from that because I've been
Speaker 5: watching the restoration.
Speaker 2: Phenomenal performance hangout. They even had performance hanging out the
Speaker 2: side of Notre Dump. They incorporated everything. It was just
Speaker 2: it was fantastic.
Speaker 4: And also there was the classic French thing with the
Speaker 4: rail service going down because of.
Speaker 3: Well it could be some French.
Speaker 2: Well they think the Russia, they think I saw something
Speaker 2: in the news about it being for some sort of
Speaker 2: far left.
Speaker 4: It could be could mean no one's no one's taken
Speaker 4: the blame. This is the classic thing. I think every
Speaker 4: time I've been to France the rail service has been
Speaker 4: disrupted or there's been a strike or something like that.
Speaker 4: There just it'll be some passionate group somewhere who's who.
Speaker 3: Sounds like they did very well.
Speaker 2: I wonder what it was like for the athletes, because
Speaker 2: I did see somebody saying it's a shame that the
Speaker 2: athletes didn't get to hear the chair of the crowd
Speaker 2: and walking into a stadium. It's like, well, if you
Speaker 2: want to gear the chair of the crowd when a medal,
Speaker 2: then when a medal, and it all will be all.
Speaker 3: But you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: I mean that's anyway. Look I give it, I give
Speaker 2: it ten out of ten. And look it's it's difficult
Speaker 2: to get everything right logistically phenomenally blew my mind. Then
Speaker 2: I heard of the budget was over a billion pounds
Speaker 2: or something zero.
Speaker 5: No, seriously would be, wouldn't.
Speaker 2: I mean even that horse that went up the scene,
Speaker 2: I thought that mechanical horse that was going, but the
Speaker 2: guy I was riding up the Seine, I thought even that.
Speaker 2: I wonder how much cost to build that. That would
Speaker 2: have been many many thousands of euros just for that
Speaker 2: little thing. And then ah no, anyway, there we gave Look,
Speaker 2: if you haven't seen it, people watch the first bit
Speaker 2: with the aerial view of Paris, check out Gaga and
Speaker 2: then crank Ford, you know, look at look for New
Speaker 2: Zealand arriving on their boat as well, and then crank
Speaker 2: Ford to the last ten minutes and boom.
Speaker 4: Was our boat on foils.
Speaker 3: That would have been something.
Speaker 5: Taking everybody else on the cyclists.
Speaker 2: I think that might have I think that might have
Speaker 2: actually caused some problems logistically if we'd jumped the queue.
Speaker 3: But anyway, hey, look to tell you what.
Speaker 2: We're going to come back and discuss lots of other
Speaker 2: things as well, but we're gonna take a break now.
Speaker 2: And it's twenty one past three. This is news Talk
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Speaker 6: You know I'm falling apart in final gaggle.
Speaker 2: Yes, welcome back to the weekend collective huntin Beverage.
Speaker 3: My esteemed guests are Pete wolf Camp and Mark Kreisel.
Speaker 2: That's better than the sort of backhanded sort of insults
Speaker 2: I gave you at the start, wasn't that, guys?
Speaker 3: Sorry? About that, you know anyway?
Speaker 2: Anyway, Hey, look, just one last thing on the Olympics.
Speaker 2: I still can't quite get get my head around the
Speaker 2: Canadians women's football team. So the coach has been sent
Speaker 2: home because it turns out that that drone that they
Speaker 2: flew over a football fans training session was not their
Speaker 2: first rodeo rodeo rodeo.
Speaker 6: The Canadians, of all people, Yeah there meant to be nice,
Speaker 6: like if it was like, I don't know, the Americans
Speaker 6: or someone who's ruthlessly wants to win all the time,
Speaker 6: but the Canadians, they have state healthcare and everything.
Speaker 4: I mean.
Speaker 2: And look, I'm dumb enough about soccer to wonder what
Speaker 2: they could possibly learn from watching a soccer football from
Speaker 2: wondering what they could have possibly learned, unless they would
Speaker 2: just wanted to know what sort of formation the women
Speaker 2: were running.
Speaker 3: And to be.
Speaker 4: Honest, the White fans aren't a great threat.
Speaker 3: Well too one close. They got the first goal.
Speaker 2: I live in hope and our defense look pretty good
Speaker 2: for quite a while.
Speaker 3: Anyway, Pete, I.
Speaker 5: Must be sending home the coach scene. I guess from
Speaker 5: an Olympic point of view, you want to nip anything
Speaker 5: like this in the bud, right, So it sends a
Speaker 5: clear signal to anyone else who might be thinking about
Speaker 5: using some sort of underhand tests across the sports.
Speaker 4: They should have they should have docked their points, that
Speaker 4: they should have forfeited that match and we should have
Speaker 4: got it, and that that would have learned them.
Speaker 5: The hard thing with that, though, is it hits on
Speaker 5: the players, right, and the players had nothing.
Speaker 4: To do with it.
Speaker 5: It would have been management.
Speaker 3: But everyone, it's all in.
Speaker 2: It's a team, your coaches, your physios, everyone, and if
Speaker 2: somebody's going to block the copy bok that battery.
Speaker 4: I mean, you know, they hit the Russians over the
Speaker 4: drug thing. You know, they weren't allowed to compete for years.
Speaker 3: And that wasn't every.
Speaker 4: Russian athlete, just most of them, you know, so you
Speaker 4: know I think, yeah, I would adopt them points. I thought,
Speaker 4: you know if yeah, yeah. Oh by the way, just
Speaker 4: on the team thing. The other thing I forgot to
Speaker 4: mention was that there's a refuge Olympic team and they
Speaker 4: gave an award to the guy who has championed that cause,
Speaker 4: and I thought that was actually really beautiful. That was
Speaker 4: something towards the end as well that I thought that
Speaker 4: was a magnificent It is a magnificent idea. And the
Speaker 4: guy that gave the award to I can't remember, but
Speaker 4: he was the one who championed it. So are they stateless?
Speaker 4: They have no state for people basically in refugee. It's
Speaker 4: a refugee Olympic team. That's extraordinary, isn't that?
Speaker 5: That's fantastic?
Speaker 3: God, I'll get emotion at that moment. Does matter? Let's
Speaker 3: get into the other big.
Speaker 2: Story, which well, I mean, gosh, it's two weeks since,
Speaker 2: just under two weeks since someone took a shot at
Speaker 2: Donald Trump, and here we are now Joe Biden has
Speaker 2: is not going to be standing.
Speaker 3: It looks like it's pretty.
Speaker 2: Much in the bag for Kamala Harris before they announced her,
Speaker 2: I wouldn't have given the Democrats much of a.
Speaker 3: Shot full stop. But a week is a long time
Speaker 3: in politics, isn't it. Mark.
Speaker 4: Look, I think I know everybody said when when they
Speaker 4: made the attempt on Donald Trump's life, that that said
Speaker 4: he's won the you know aniz I mean like the
Speaker 4: guy or hate the guy. I mean, that was an
Speaker 4: extraordinary reaction to stand up and go fight, fight, fight,
Speaker 4: But things happened, so quickly now and things turn around.
Speaker 4: It feels like a long time ago, and it was
Speaker 4: probably a little over a week. And the thing is
Speaker 4: with America, I think America is desperate to believe. They
Speaker 4: love the idea of believing it's something new, and they
Speaker 4: can turn on a dime, you know, literally, And I
Speaker 4: think this has given some real momentum. It's somebody younger,
Speaker 4: it's fresher if they don't, you know, someone who wants
Speaker 4: to look forward rather than back. I think it's given
Speaker 4: them a real chance. And I had to look at
Speaker 4: the latest poll in the New York Times. Their neck
Speaker 4: and neck now, whereas before Trump was just pulling away.
Speaker 3: We'll see how that plays out.
Speaker 4: There will be a lot of nasty stuff happening in
Speaker 4: this election. I think they'll play on the fact that
Speaker 4: she's a woman. They'll play on the fact that she's
Speaker 4: an African American woman, she's an Asian American woman, and
Speaker 4: there'll be a lot of nasty stuff I think comes out.
Speaker 4: But I think there's going to be a real momentum
Speaker 4: behind her, and there's going to be a lot of
Speaker 4: young people and a lot of people who will vote
Speaker 4: this time because well, a lot of people just wouldn't
Speaker 4: have gone out for a number of new voter registrations.
Speaker 3: I think went through went through the roof people. Do
Speaker 3: you think, what do you think?
Speaker 5: Yeah, No, I think you're absolutely right, Mike in terms
Speaker 5: of how quickly this is mo and I agree with you.
Speaker 5: I saw the assassination and then thought, oh, well that's
Speaker 5: that says ticket to the White House effectively, and then
Speaker 5: you know, Joe Biden finally finally, finally, finally accepting reality
Speaker 5: and standing down endorsing Kamala. I mean, whether or not
Speaker 5: the Democrats at their convention decide to sort of self
Speaker 5: destruct and have some tortuous election process, or whether they'll
Speaker 5: go actually the best thing for all of us is
Speaker 5: just to appear united and go ahead. Then it becomes
Speaker 5: a question of who's the running mate, who's the VP.
Speaker 4: They don't have time, they haven't got time, they just
Speaker 4: got no time. Well, they've got to get behind her
Speaker 4: and go, go, go.
Speaker 2: She's got Obama's he's Michelle, and Barack Obama just an
Speaker 2: indorster as well.
Speaker 4: I think just sender A Dorn and I think there's
Speaker 4: something in this now that if someone who's around for
Speaker 4: a while and they get kicked around and you're pulled
Speaker 4: apart and you look inside their homes, you know them
Speaker 4: really well. But if someone comes in late in the game,
Speaker 4: there's real energy in that they new they haven't you
Speaker 4: haven't got sick of them yet, and they just roll along.
Speaker 4: And I think, you know, not that I'm saying this
Speaker 4: should be a tactic for all political parties, but if
Speaker 4: you can get into like a month before the election,
Speaker 4: it probably helps.
Speaker 2: Here's here's the thing as well. And look, I've got
Speaker 2: to own up to. Before she was sort of anointed,
Speaker 2: I thought, oh, I don't know, and I was impressed
Speaker 2: with her sort of four years ago, and then she
Speaker 2: dropped off the radar, and I thought, oh, maybe you
Speaker 2: were just all to anyway, I thought that it wouldn't
Speaker 2: work for her, But I actually, I'll make a prediction now.
Speaker 2: I actually think she's going to do it. Yeah, I
Speaker 2: think that the one thing. And I don't know how
Speaker 2: when else's reaction to this was, but the attack politics
Speaker 2: that Trump has played with Biden and all that sort
Speaker 2: of stuff, it just sounds like the tired old fat
Speaker 2: bully boy Trump rolling out the same sort of stuff.
Speaker 3: What did you call that?
Speaker 2: She was abum three weeks ago she was a bumer
Speaker 2: failed VP.
Speaker 3: He's trolling her.
Speaker 2: And I don't know if Americans might if we're all
Speaker 2: it doesn't matter about us, but if people might be
Speaker 2: getting a bit sick of that tired old, you know,
Speaker 2: Trump crap.
Speaker 4: All she has to do is stand up and say
Speaker 4: over and over and over again, sorry, pro choice, pro choice,
Speaker 4: pro choice, because there is over sixty percent of Americans
Speaker 4: believe in the right people's right to abortion. That those
Speaker 4: those those bills that have been driven through by the
Speaker 4: Republican led states have been incredibly unpopular. And women make
Speaker 4: up well over half half of the electorate. And if
Speaker 4: you you know, if you go against women, they're going
Speaker 4: to vote against you. So I think I think she's
Speaker 4: got a really good chance. There's still a lot of
Speaker 4: work to do, and that crazy system in America, the
Speaker 4: electoral college is a tough one. So it come down
Speaker 4: to places like Pennsylvania, North Carolina, Michigan, Ohio. You know,
Speaker 4: you know, Carmela might be like Hillary Clinton and win
Speaker 4: the popular vote but lose.
Speaker 2: Number she needs to the other The actually, the VP thing,
Speaker 2: I saw an article about the top of the four
Speaker 2: possible packs, because it's going to be a bloke, but
Speaker 2: the one who seems to be sneaking, screeping his mark
Speaker 2: Kelly Astronaut and his CV, I mean they to be
Speaker 2: he's impressive.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: In fact, if it went for Garmela, he might have
Speaker 2: fancied his own chance at running for the.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he'll be hard to beat.
Speaker 5: He's also Gifford's husband, is that right, the woman who
Speaker 5: was shocked.
Speaker 4: Yes.
Speaker 2: And another guy called Jeff Bsher, who's another guy who's
Speaker 2: succeeded in some sort of conservative areas.
Speaker 4: He was a fighter pilots in the Gulf War.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: No, he's got a lot going on for him, and
Speaker 4: apparently he's very good on the border as well. He
Speaker 4: understands it really well and he's done some really good
Speaker 4: working around that.
Speaker 3: So okay, so call it who's going to win?
Speaker 2: I like making predictions because you know what, who cares
Speaker 2: if you get wrong. It's like a sporting prediction. I
Speaker 2: think I think she'll do it.
Speaker 3: I think she's going to go. There's still I mean,
Speaker 3: there's still.
Speaker 4: A long way to go.
Speaker 3: Can you think it happen here? It is?
Speaker 2: If I had to stick one hundred bucks in which
Speaker 2: one way a couple of weeks ago would have been like,
Speaker 2: I think I better put it on Trump, And I
Speaker 2: don't think i'd better.
Speaker 1: I don't.
Speaker 4: I just don't. I just don't want to see him
Speaker 4: back in there. I always remember there was a Canadian
Speaker 4: professor wrote about living in Canada during the Trump years,
Speaker 4: said it was like living above a meth lab.
Speaker 3: And I don't think.
Speaker 4: The world needs any more of that.
Speaker 3: The world is fragile.
Speaker 4: We're just getting over COVID and inflation and cost of
Speaker 4: living and everything like that. We do not need Donald
Speaker 4: Trump adds.
Speaker 3: That mix.
Speaker 2: Seems slightly anti climactic. But the Green Party AGM is
Speaker 2: kicking off today, possibly not capturing the same amount of
Speaker 2: headlines as Kamala Harris. But I guess the big issue
Speaker 2: they've got to sort out is the fate of form.
Speaker 2: Well that their former member Darling Tana, who is now
Speaker 2: I think she's independent, sitting there cozially next to the
Speaker 2: Mary Party.
Speaker 3: Isn't she ride the back.
Speaker 4: She's like in a little corner all by her own self.
Speaker 2: Although I saw an image I saw her sitting next
Speaker 2: to Debbie Naruwapaka when Debbie was talking to Parliament the
Speaker 2: other day. She was sitting in the in the seat
Speaker 2: next to her.
Speaker 3: She must have crept up.
Speaker 4: Her place is right at the back. I mean, I
Speaker 4: just think this is ridiculous.
Speaker 3: She's got to go.
Speaker 4: She got what two thousand votes or something all up.
Speaker 4: You know, she's just there on the coattails of the
Speaker 4: Green Party. I'm so sick of people going in and
Speaker 4: and and you know, on the party vote and then
Speaker 4: just doing something horrendous and then leaving and sitting there
Speaker 4: as an independent. It's honestly kick her.
Speaker 5: Out one hundred percent. And what I find staggering is
Speaker 5: that she you know.
Speaker 2: They she's pouns there. Well, she can change them anyway.
Speaker 5: Satana whose whose husband has run the business. Now, businesses
Speaker 5: fail all the time, that happens, but the liquidators report
Speaker 5: us out. One of the creditors of the business is
Speaker 5: the Inland Revenue Department. The figure that I saw was
Speaker 5: one hundred and forty four thousand dollars, right, which again, businesses,
Speaker 5: they fail, right, these things happen. However, she is in
Speaker 5: Parliament being paid by the tax payers while not paying tax.
Speaker 3: Yep, there's an iity there. That's very pete. That is
Speaker 3: a great it's good as.
Speaker 5: A business owner knows what it is to do your
Speaker 5: GST and your provisional tax and your terminal tax and
Speaker 5: all the rest of.
Speaker 4: It esc and then you don't. I think what hurts
Speaker 4: for the Greens too is it's anti migrants, you know,
Speaker 4: exploiting migrants. Yes came over, which would go really hard
Speaker 4: against the Greens who see themselves as a very principal
Speaker 4: party and will be tearing themselves apart internally about what
Speaker 4: to actually do with this.
Speaker 2: Here's the thing I don't There's a reason I like
Speaker 2: the Waker jumping legislation because it enables us to get
Speaker 2: rid of people like Darling Tanna, and there are some
Speaker 2: other examples we can probably think of a big back
Speaker 2: in history.
Speaker 3: But here's the other side of it.
Speaker 2: Though, I still don't like the idea that it puts
Speaker 2: this sort of onus on that puts all the control
Speaker 2: and the party in a way too much. And so
Speaker 2: I still haven't worked out whether I like the legislation,
Speaker 2: because if how many MPs are put into electric seats
Speaker 2: and they win an electorate, and do we know much
Speaker 2: more about them than we do about list MPs, and
Speaker 2: you cannot get rid of an electric MP. So I
Speaker 2: just wonder if it puts the onus on parties, any party,
Speaker 2: to make sure that the person they stick up there
Speaker 2: is the only.
Speaker 5: Reason that she is in parliament. Tanna is in parliament
Speaker 5: is because she joined with the Green Party righta to
Speaker 5: her own device that she would never be elected to
Speaker 5: the House of Representatives. So it's different. I think if
Speaker 5: it's an electoral vote, if I happen to vote for
Speaker 5: Joe who's in my electorate, and then he decides he
Speaker 5: doesn't like the party that he's been associated with, he
Speaker 5: could arguably still say well, I got those votes from
Speaker 5: my constituents, and.
Speaker 4: She's holding to see that that could be someone who
Speaker 4: would be really engaged in doing something positive and moving forward.
Speaker 3: You know, I mean to.
Speaker 2: Achieve I would be dishonest if I didn't repeat my
Speaker 2: comments I made it, and my earlier talkback show that.
Speaker 2: You know, it's hardly the seat's going to be filled
Speaker 2: with a high flag. I think the Greens are quite
Speaker 2: low on I think their depth seems to be to
Speaker 2: be a little bit shallow, and I find it kind
Speaker 2: of hard case and the part of me thinks, well,
Speaker 2: we're paying the salary for someone who's not going to
Speaker 2: be doing much anyway. This is hilarious. Stay in there, Darlene,
Speaker 2: it's just so entertaining.
Speaker 4: No, no, no, no, I think she should go. But
Speaker 4: I guess there's also the side where there are, you know,
Speaker 4: people who feel that they didn't leave the party, the
Speaker 4: party left them.
Speaker 3: You know, if your party.
Speaker 4: Does turn a smaller party turns and does something that
Speaker 4: you find something to take a principal stand on.
Speaker 3: I think that's quite different.
Speaker 2: But yes, that's right, you've been busted.
Speaker 3: Yeah, gusted, and.
Speaker 2: Actually, come on, leadership of the Green Bee leaders, don't
Speaker 2: wait for evem to go.
Speaker 3: We will vote on this. Just that's the way they roll.
Speaker 4: That's intriguing.
Speaker 5: As will they be able to be pragmatic, Well, it's
Speaker 5: going to be hilarious.
Speaker 3: We're going to find out.
Speaker 2: I think we might even be I'm not sure who
Speaker 2: we've got on our show tomorrow for politics, but we
Speaker 2: might be able to off some more further insight tomorrow.
Speaker 2: So you guys are going to have to stay tuned
Speaker 2: because it's going to.
Speaker 3: Be hot, hot, hot.
Speaker 2: We may just stay here, they just just stay in
Speaker 2: the road stretcher anyway.
Speaker 3: Anyway, right, we're going to take a break.
Speaker 2: It is at twenty one minutes to four News talk
Speaker 2: s B.
Speaker 3: It's stip Whosa feels like Gordy of Nose. Just how
Speaker 3: to take and welcome back to the weekend Collective.
Speaker 2: I do love it some of the texts of rolled
Speaker 2: and it always happens with American politics, saying you guys.
Speaker 3: Are so opinionated. The point and unfortunately, I guess sometimes we.
Speaker 4: All imagine listening to us if we didn't have an
Speaker 4: opinion mentioned, if we did.
Speaker 2: A week in collective, we will sit on the fence. Well,
Speaker 2: on the one hand, you could say such and such,
Speaker 2: but I don't know. On the other hand, what do
Speaker 2: you think? And Pete goes, well, you're right. On the
Speaker 2: one hand you could say this, but on there, Oh.
Speaker 4: Thank you for your contribution, Thank you for yours, Mark,
Speaker 4: thank you for thank you very much.
Speaker 2: Hey, just it is a political story, but it's not
Speaker 2: in terms of whether you right left or whatever. But
Speaker 2: Nelson Man next Smith wants to get rid of sandwich boards.
Speaker 5: No he doesn't.
Speaker 2: Well, I'm just reading the headline, Pete.
Speaker 5: The media today it's all about the bloody headlines.
Speaker 2: They're looking at. I think they're worried about obstacles on
Speaker 2: the pavement.
Speaker 3: Aren't they obscules.
Speaker 4: Or visual pollution?
Speaker 5: No, it's I think because I listened to the interview
Speaker 5: and so when he was talking to Hosking and saying, look,
Speaker 5: it's a proposal that's been put forward by some of
Speaker 5: the counselors who obviously have been lobbied by disability groups
Speaker 5: and sold which is fair enough. Around we're having reasonable
Speaker 5: access unimpeded access on the footpath. That makes sense, yes,
Speaker 5: But he's just going, look, it's just the timing's really bad.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 5: We've got retailers that are struggling already, and a number
Speaker 5: of them would say we get people walking into the
Speaker 5: store because they can see what the store's about because
Speaker 5: there's a sandwich board on there, but they're supposed to
Speaker 5: only have one and some as most people do kind
Speaker 5: of trying.
Speaker 2: So just don't impede the sidewalk. If you've got a
Speaker 2: wide sidewalk, then sure, go with your sandwich board. And
Speaker 2: if it's stopping people getting along it, then get rid
Speaker 2: of it.
Speaker 3: But it's common.
Speaker 4: I spent a day once with a friend of mine's
Speaker 4: brother who is in a wheelchair going around was a
Speaker 4: Wellington actually going around shops and oh my god, what
Speaker 4: an eye opener. I'd never ever really you know, typical selfish,
Speaker 4: able bodied person, never really thought about it. But oh
Speaker 4: my god, just going somewhere with a wheelchair and little
Speaker 4: steps and places that you don't expect them, and stores
Speaker 4: and stuff. So I mean, I was completely humbled by
Speaker 4: that day. So I'm actually on side to take and
Speaker 4: get rid of the bloody things.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think.
Speaker 2: Also, if you've got a dog and you're taking a
Speaker 2: dog for a walk along the sidewalk, you retract, please
Speaker 2: retract that leash.
Speaker 3: God, the number of times you get some little shit.
Speaker 2: To tangled around your ankor yes, well I couldn't think of.
Speaker 4: As long as that in a bag.
Speaker 3: That's that's the right.
Speaker 2: Who thought Mark Krassle could be so mischievous with a
Speaker 2: sense of humor? Anyway, just another story here. I think
Speaker 2: this is another bad headline for Boeing. Two astronauts have
Speaker 2: been stuck up in space for forty nine days after
Speaker 2: venturing out on what was supposed to be an eight
Speaker 2: day trip. It's forty one days longer than their plan
Speaker 2: mission because they're Boeing built ride home, it is full
Speaker 2: of leaks, full of leaks, will have to spend at
Speaker 2: least a few more weeks, so they'll have to spend
Speaker 2: a few more weeks at the aboard the International Space Station.
Speaker 2: I guess when you sign up to go into space,
Speaker 2: you sign up for that sort of thing.
Speaker 5: But I can't imagine they'd be too upset. I mean,
Speaker 5: it'd be an amazing experience. You'd want to hang out
Speaker 5: there for as long as you could, which I.
Speaker 4: Well, it depends how long you've got.
Speaker 3: You know, you can't pop down the that's right.
Speaker 5: Borrowing food from the Russians.
Speaker 2: Of course, it does seem that Boeing is yeah right.
Speaker 2: I mean, if you we're starting up an airline, Mark.
Speaker 3: Krysl, No, I wouldn't get a bowing.
Speaker 2: I mean, you air Bus, you'd be chatting to them
Speaker 2: unless you've got a real knockdown to it.
Speaker 4: None of it really makes sense, isn't it? Bignks of
Speaker 4: metal flying through the air. But you do have to
Speaker 4: hope for the best.
Speaker 2: Indeed, hey, look we're going to take a moment. We'll
Speaker 2: be back with our panelists. I'm with Mark Kryzel and
Speaker 2: Pete wolf Camp. I'm Tim Beverages the Weekend Collective. It
Speaker 2: is fourteen minutes to four.
Speaker 3: News Talk said bat.
Speaker 2: And welcome back to the Weekend Collective. Twenty seventh of
Speaker 2: July is and my, well, that sound like it's the
Speaker 2: start of the show with just the last bite of
Speaker 2: the apple or the bite of the cherry with Pete
Speaker 2: wolf Camp and Mark Kreisel. Look, guys, I'm a big
Speaker 2: fan of bacon, so I was wondering what you're you know,
Speaker 2: whether this would influence the choice of where you buy
Speaker 2: your bacon. But the winner of the best bacon and
Speaker 2: ham in New Zealand has been crowned Upper Huts. Cameron
Speaker 2: Harrison Butchery has received the Supreme Winner in the bacon
Speaker 2: category for its honey coured streaky bacon and Sam's Butchery
Speaker 2: and Silvadaale won the Supreme Award for ham.
Speaker 4: Now good, I love, I do. Who doesn't look well? Okay,
Speaker 4: I know a lot of people vegans, Muslims, Jewish people
Speaker 4: don't like bacon. But yeah, I don't want to offend you,
Speaker 4: but I love bacon and you guys are missing out.
Speaker 2: Actually it's funny how I mean bacon at a cafe
Speaker 2: If you don't like to have the odd bacon and eggs,
Speaker 2: if a cafe has a good bacon, then you'll go
Speaker 2: back there. But if it hasn't, they'll never see me again.
Speaker 3: It's all about and the.
Speaker 5: Coffee, the bacon, and the coffee buddies.
Speaker 2: Oh, how good, Well that's absolutely I haven't had one
Speaker 2: of those for a long time.
Speaker 5: But just finish my show on Sunday nine o'clock Central
Speaker 5: Flea markets on there's always a young fellow out the
Speaker 5: back there frying up bacon and egg buddy. So I
Speaker 5: go to the flea market, grab a coffee from Kinship,
Speaker 5: and then go out and have bacony buddy. It's a
Speaker 5: perfect morning.
Speaker 2: I just I just am fascinated with how different bacon
Speaker 2: can be as opposed to all the other cuts of meat.
Speaker 2: I mean, a steak generally to me as a steak,
Speaker 2: and maybe it's the way you cook it and how
Speaker 2: how much fat there isn't it? But with bacon, it's
Speaker 2: just the art of curing bacon is it's a mystery.
Speaker 4: What do you eat if you if you can't get bacon?
Speaker 5: Facon?
Speaker 3: What?
Speaker 5: What?
Speaker 3: What do you mean? What?
Speaker 4: What?
Speaker 5: No?
Speaker 3: What was that word?
Speaker 5: Are you not a Cosmopoltan man about town?
Speaker 3: Facon?
Speaker 4: Yeah? Who's making facon?
Speaker 3: Are you voting? Are you wading for the Green Party
Speaker 3: in our Pete Walk camp. Oh, I do know? Okay,
Speaker 3: when have you had fake it?
Speaker 5: Local cafe Von Dellen Dimport and Sam there serves up
Speaker 5: a kimchi pancake. I would be into that kimchi pancake.
Speaker 5: What is avocado?
Speaker 4: And I think I think he does? Does he do
Speaker 4: the or have you eaten fake it? Who's who's making
Speaker 4: fake it?
Speaker 2: I just think if you want to add us, if
Speaker 2: you like the taste of bacon, just.
Speaker 4: I also don't understand if you're not going to eat meat,
Speaker 4: why eat something.
Speaker 3: That looks like meat or it's a strange one, doesn't it? Yeah?
Speaker 3: I guess.
Speaker 4: I mean, you know what do I do?
Speaker 5: Some friends of us did a spaghetti bolonnaise using what's kimchi?
Speaker 3: What is kimchi?
Speaker 4: Kimchi is cabbage, Like basically it's delicious. It's delicious. I
Speaker 4: have icy and good and I have to say when
Speaker 4: I went to North Korea, seriously, the best thing I
Speaker 4: ate there, it's absolutely delicious.
Speaker 3: Wow.
Speaker 2: Facon, Yeah, so is it because they don't serve bacon
Speaker 2: that you had it or you went I'm going to
Speaker 2: go oh, okay, really and did they have bacon?
Speaker 5: The Delitarian.
Speaker 3: Did they have bacon as an option? Though? Do they
Speaker 3: have bacon? They have no? Surely?
Speaker 5: Thinking about the eggs benedict with HALLOOMI see there's a vegetari.
Speaker 4: But think about it if he had a break in,
Speaker 4: If he had a break in, would someone steal the
Speaker 4: facon or the bacon?
Speaker 3: That tells me there's time to squeeze. Another topic.
Speaker 2: If we've got bad punts from Mark Kreysel again, that's
Speaker 2: the second bad one today company third possibly I think
Speaker 2: we should just mention this for fun. But in nineteenth
Speaker 2: century shipwreck filled with champagne has been found off the
Speaker 2: coast of Sweden. It's loaded with dozens of bottles of
Speaker 2: champagne and mineral water. It does sound I don't know,
Speaker 2: it just sounds wonderful.
Speaker 3: Really.
Speaker 5: I love those stories stories.
Speaker 3: So it's an amazing though.
Speaker 4: So the mineral water apparently back in the day was
Speaker 4: as precious as champagne. It was only drying by noble
Speaker 4: people and the wealthy, and then and when it went
Speaker 4: places that it had to have security with it as well.
Speaker 2: Well. I think that the reason that people drank. The
Speaker 2: peasants in France drank wine and when they're out in
Speaker 2: the field.
Speaker 3: Was because the fermentation was.
Speaker 2: Probably the reason that you weren't going to get an
Speaker 2: upset stomach from drinking some dodgy source of water.
Speaker 3: Would that be it?
Speaker 4: Yes, that could be it, which is also what Kim
Speaker 4: Butcher does.
Speaker 2: Okay, and the will come and we're going to be
Speaker 2: talking about kimchi pancakes again. Where's that place you get
Speaker 2: the kim chi pancakes and faking once we'll give them
Speaker 2: a plug because you've said it's pretty down town, which
Speaker 2: one von Dell von del Cafe and dimport. Okay, just quickly,
Speaker 2: one last thing. Are you into animated movies?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 3: Not.
Speaker 2: The reason I brought this up last is because Inside
Speaker 2: Out Too has just become the highest gross grossing highest
Speaker 2: gross sorry, I think of kim Chi has become the
Speaker 2: highest grossing animated film taken out. Here's the number, one
Speaker 2: point four six billion dollars.
Speaker 3: So I haven't seen it and I have never heard
Speaker 3: of it. As my daughter who went.
Speaker 4: Last week ten out of ten she said, and I
Speaker 4: think it's a really good movie in terms of something
Speaker 4: that that helps the kids to understand their emotions and
Speaker 4: that sort of thing. So it's got a it's got
Speaker 4: a good, good message. Plus it's entertaining.
Speaker 5: We've seen Inside Out one as the family. Haven't seen
Speaker 5: Inside Out too yet, but it is on the list.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, I'll check it out. Actually, I didn't notice
Speaker 2: by the way back to the whole Olympic thing they
Speaker 2: had they did fixture?
Speaker 3: Did they feature what were those? Oh I've forgotten that
Speaker 3: now minions.
Speaker 5: That's right, I didn't even watch it, and I still
Speaker 5: know more.
Speaker 2: French creation the minions, the minions because yeah, well, I
Speaker 2: mean French.
Speaker 3: Well why were that the parison? Why were they fixing
Speaker 3: the parents?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 3: Maybe I don't know. Maybe this was a cute idea.
Speaker 5: Probably how about dead pooling there too, that'd be the same.
Speaker 2: Hey, guys, thank you, Oh no, hey, thanks so much
Speaker 2: for joining us. Mark Cries or people Camp. We're going
Speaker 2: to take it out with a little bit more of
Speaker 2: Celine Dion from the closing of the ceremony. If you
Speaker 2: get the chance to go and see.
Speaker 3: It, do that. We'll be back shortly.
Speaker 2: It is time for the one roof radio show and
Speaker 2: Helen Sullivan joins us, and we'll look forward to company
Speaker 2: and taking a cause.
Speaker 3: Then. But enough from me.
Speaker 2: Let's have a little bit of Saline to take us
Speaker 2: to the break at four minutes to four.
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