1 00:00:01,160 --> 00:00:05,280 Speaker 1: The issues, the interviews and the inside Andrew Dickens on 2 00:00:05,360 --> 00:00:09,280 Speaker 1: an earlier edition with ex pole insulation keeping Kimi Holmes 3 00:00:09,320 --> 00:00:13,000 Speaker 1: warm and try this winter News Talks they'd be as well. 4 00:00:13,039 --> 00:00:15,640 Speaker 2: Good morning to you and welcome to the programs. So today, 5 00:00:15,640 --> 00:00:19,360 Speaker 2: in the next sixty minutes, kids are still wagging school 6 00:00:19,640 --> 00:00:21,840 Speaker 2: despite a government that announced it had to stop. So 7 00:00:21,920 --> 00:00:24,280 Speaker 2: what's really happening in the classroom, more more importantly, what's 8 00:00:24,280 --> 00:00:26,920 Speaker 2: happening outside the classroom? We'll have that story for you. 9 00:00:26,960 --> 00:00:30,200 Speaker 2: In five Liam Lawson crashed on the first lap. England 10 00:00:30,280 --> 00:00:33,720 Speaker 2: is playing India in cricket and Argentina in rugby, and 11 00:00:33,840 --> 00:00:36,920 Speaker 2: oh that's right, the All Black's got a bit of 12 00:00:36,960 --> 00:00:39,760 Speaker 2: a scare. We'll have Andrew Ordison on sport and ten 13 00:00:40,680 --> 00:00:42,520 Speaker 2: we'll talk about the return of a pop star who's 14 00:00:42,560 --> 00:00:44,879 Speaker 2: done the hard yards. He's coming back to New Zealand 15 00:00:45,000 --> 00:00:49,080 Speaker 2: and the government's thinking about minimum sentences. Will have Jason 16 00:00:49,080 --> 00:00:52,800 Speaker 2: Walls just before six. All these stories plus correspondence from 17 00:00:53,200 --> 00:00:56,360 Speaker 2: what from the UK, also from One around New Zealand 18 00:00:56,360 --> 00:00:57,960 Speaker 2: at News as it breaks and you can text me 19 00:00:58,000 --> 00:00:59,960 Speaker 2: on ninety two to ninety two a small charge of player. 20 00:01:00,120 --> 00:01:02,959 Speaker 2: He can email me Dickens at news talks at bt 21 00:01:03,000 --> 00:01:05,080 Speaker 2: CO dot and Zed It's great to be with you. 22 00:01:05,520 --> 00:01:07,360 Speaker 2: It is now eight after five. 23 00:01:08,760 --> 00:01:09,479 Speaker 1: The agenda. 24 00:01:10,160 --> 00:01:13,920 Speaker 2: It's Monday, the seventh of July. At least sixty eight 25 00:01:13,959 --> 00:01:17,440 Speaker 2: people have been killed after flash floods swept through parts 26 00:01:17,480 --> 00:01:21,160 Speaker 2: of central Texas. Here's the Kerryville County Sheriff, Larry Leitha. 27 00:01:21,400 --> 00:01:24,040 Speaker 3: Among those who are deceased, we have thirty eight adults 28 00:01:24,360 --> 00:01:28,479 Speaker 3: and twenty one children. Eighteen adults pending identification and four 29 00:01:28,560 --> 00:01:32,680 Speaker 3: children are also pending identification. At present, there are eleven 30 00:01:32,880 --> 00:01:37,720 Speaker 3: Mystic campers unaccounted for, along with one counselor. We extend 31 00:01:37,800 --> 00:01:42,440 Speaker 3: our sincereous condolences and prayers for every single family affected 32 00:01:42,480 --> 00:01:43,360 Speaker 3: by this tragedy. 33 00:01:44,040 --> 00:01:46,480 Speaker 2: So to the Middle East, Israel has decided to send 34 00:01:46,480 --> 00:01:51,160 Speaker 2: a delegation to Qatar for proximity talks with Hamas on 35 00:01:51,240 --> 00:01:55,040 Speaker 2: the latest proposal for a Gaza ceasefire and hostage release steel. 36 00:01:55,240 --> 00:01:58,760 Speaker 2: That comes as Netanyah to Netanyahu is set to meet 37 00:01:58,800 --> 00:02:00,880 Speaker 2: with Donald Trump on the u IS time. 38 00:02:00,960 --> 00:02:03,720 Speaker 4: I think we'll be watching very closely over today and 39 00:02:04,320 --> 00:02:07,440 Speaker 4: the coming days if they stay and if more senior 40 00:02:07,480 --> 00:02:10,040 Speaker 4: officials also join those talks. That will give us a 41 00:02:10,120 --> 00:02:13,919 Speaker 4: sense whether this is moving really forward with the momentum 42 00:02:13,960 --> 00:02:17,560 Speaker 4: that President Trump wants this time for there to be 43 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:20,560 Speaker 4: and for there to be a breakthrough as soon as possible. 44 00:02:21,120 --> 00:02:24,320 Speaker 2: And as the Osborne's back Baby and Black Zebbath. They 45 00:02:24,480 --> 00:02:27,440 Speaker 2: came back on stage for their final Final, Final Final 46 00:02:27,680 --> 00:02:30,959 Speaker 2: gig in their hometown Birmingham, playing at Villa Park, very 47 00:02:30,960 --> 00:02:33,520 Speaker 2: first time the original members have performed together in twenty 48 00:02:33,600 --> 00:02:35,120 Speaker 2: years and this is what this is what they said 49 00:02:35,400 --> 00:03:12,520 Speaker 2: like at least the crowd was a good force, that's 50 00:03:12,520 --> 00:03:14,360 Speaker 2: for sure. More on that a little bit later on. 51 00:03:14,600 --> 00:03:17,720 Speaker 2: It is now ten minutes after five U SAORCV. 52 00:03:18,080 --> 00:03:21,680 Speaker 1: Get ahead of the headlines on early edition with Andrew 53 00:03:21,680 --> 00:03:26,120 Speaker 1: Dickins and x fol Insulation keeping Kiwi Holmes warm and dry. 54 00:03:26,200 --> 00:03:27,720 Speaker 1: This winter news talks a'd be. 55 00:03:27,880 --> 00:03:30,400 Speaker 2: So on Friday our warner Saturday Night. It came true. 56 00:03:30,480 --> 00:03:32,960 Speaker 2: France were better than expected. We were worse with the 57 00:03:32,960 --> 00:03:36,320 Speaker 2: all backs scraping pass. Some said rustiness is the factor 58 00:03:36,600 --> 00:03:39,000 Speaker 2: in the all backs. I don't get that personally. We're 59 00:03:39,040 --> 00:03:42,680 Speaker 2: fresh off as Super Rugby season which saw international grade 60 00:03:42,680 --> 00:03:45,200 Speaker 2: football being played. There should have been no rustiness in 61 00:03:45,240 --> 00:03:47,760 Speaker 2: the players. If there's rustiness, it's in the game plan. 62 00:03:47,960 --> 00:03:51,240 Speaker 2: And that's another thing, and that is on the coaching staff. 63 00:03:51,240 --> 00:03:55,320 Speaker 2: But you don't really criticize the coaches these days. The 64 00:03:55,480 --> 00:03:58,360 Speaker 2: French also came here right after their Top fourteen competition 65 00:03:58,440 --> 00:04:00,600 Speaker 2: and they showed that they've been playing high grade foot 66 00:04:00,600 --> 00:04:03,280 Speaker 2: be a footy this year. So I warned on Friday, 67 00:04:03,280 --> 00:04:05,440 Speaker 2: we all warned on Friday of the possibility that France 68 00:04:05,520 --> 00:04:07,640 Speaker 2: might be like the Baby Blacks of nineteen eighty six. 69 00:04:07,680 --> 00:04:10,040 Speaker 2: That was a great old team captain by David Kirk, 70 00:04:10,120 --> 00:04:14,000 Speaker 2: included many green players, in fact, eleven eleven new players 71 00:04:14,200 --> 00:04:16,360 Speaker 2: because the old hands have been punished for the Cavaliers 72 00:04:16,360 --> 00:04:20,679 Speaker 2: to but yet they beat France eighteen nine in christ Church. 73 00:04:21,120 --> 00:04:23,560 Speaker 2: So this new French side, it's kind of similar. So 74 00:04:23,560 --> 00:04:25,800 Speaker 2: I'm going to call them the Baby La Blue. And 75 00:04:25,880 --> 00:04:27,680 Speaker 2: it's not the first time we've been scratchy in the 76 00:04:27,680 --> 00:04:30,080 Speaker 2: first Test and it's something really we need to solve 77 00:04:30,160 --> 00:04:33,320 Speaker 2: these days. We need to hit out against ernest, but 78 00:04:33,640 --> 00:04:36,360 Speaker 2: lesser opposition might be a good idea. And last week 79 00:04:36,440 --> 00:04:39,160 Speaker 2: people were mentioning how much they missed the Possibles Versus 80 00:04:39,200 --> 00:04:42,920 Speaker 2: Probables games, which were the training matches for all Blacks 81 00:04:43,520 --> 00:04:45,440 Speaker 2: but also a chance for the second stringers to have 82 00:04:45,440 --> 00:04:47,520 Speaker 2: one more cracket and pressing the selectors. And they were 83 00:04:47,560 --> 00:04:51,000 Speaker 2: ding dong games and they cut the rust out. Now 84 00:04:51,400 --> 00:04:53,359 Speaker 2: we can't really bring that game back. But I have 85 00:04:53,400 --> 00:04:57,960 Speaker 2: another idea. Why don't we organize a pre season game 86 00:04:58,440 --> 00:05:02,080 Speaker 2: between the All Blacks and the Maori All Blacks as 87 00:05:02,120 --> 00:05:05,120 Speaker 2: a precursor to their international seasons. It doesn't have to 88 00:05:05,160 --> 00:05:06,640 Speaker 2: be full noise, it doesn't have to be a big 89 00:05:06,680 --> 00:05:08,960 Speaker 2: money maker, and nor does it have to be in 90 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:12,360 Speaker 2: the weekend. It could be a midweek feature at a 91 00:05:12,400 --> 00:05:16,480 Speaker 2: funky venue like fung Are or maybe even County Mancow's 92 00:05:16,520 --> 00:05:19,400 Speaker 2: boutique ground and Pokacoe. It'd be a blast. It'd be 93 00:05:19,400 --> 00:05:21,520 Speaker 2: a load of fun. It will bring rugby back to 94 00:05:21,560 --> 00:05:23,800 Speaker 2: the grassroots and it might cut out the rust and 95 00:05:23,839 --> 00:05:26,600 Speaker 2: prevent the AB's having such dodgy first games. 96 00:05:27,440 --> 00:05:30,200 Speaker 1: News Talk said, be kids. 97 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:33,080 Speaker 2: Are still working school. The statistics are amazing. I'm going 98 00:05:33,120 --> 00:05:35,440 Speaker 2: to tell you those statistics in a few moments time. 99 00:05:35,800 --> 00:05:37,960 Speaker 2: But the government said no, we don't want this, and 100 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:40,120 Speaker 2: they've got a fat wire against us. So why is 101 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:42,479 Speaker 2: it still happening. We're going to talk to Joe Malcolm 102 00:05:42,480 --> 00:05:46,280 Speaker 2: Black She's the CEO of the Graham Dingle Foundation. They 103 00:05:46,279 --> 00:05:48,839 Speaker 2: are the charity that figured this all out. And she 104 00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:52,000 Speaker 2: is next on News Talks Here, b this is the hour. 105 00:05:52,520 --> 00:05:55,880 Speaker 1: News and views you trust to start your day. It's 106 00:05:55,960 --> 00:05:59,479 Speaker 1: earlier this ship with Padrew Dickins at X full Insulation 107 00:05:59,720 --> 00:06:03,039 Speaker 1: keep Kiwi Holmes warm and dry. This winter news Talks, 108 00:06:03,080 --> 00:06:03,440 Speaker 1: the'd be. 109 00:06:03,680 --> 00:06:06,520 Speaker 2: It's fourteen minutes after five. Some pretty grim numbers around 110 00:06:06,560 --> 00:06:09,960 Speaker 2: truancy out this morning. Around one thy one hundred and 111 00:06:10,120 --> 00:06:13,880 Speaker 2: ten students weren't enrolled in school for more than a 112 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:16,960 Speaker 2: year in twenty twenty four. Two thirds of those ages 113 00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:19,840 Speaker 2: between twelve and fourteen years old. Students are put down 114 00:06:19,880 --> 00:06:23,400 Speaker 2: as no enrolled if their absence is unexplained for twenty 115 00:06:23,480 --> 00:06:26,080 Speaker 2: days or more so. Joe Malcolm Black is the CEO 116 00:06:26,160 --> 00:06:28,880 Speaker 2: of the Graham Dingle Foundation. This is the charity that's 117 00:06:28,880 --> 00:06:31,279 Speaker 2: worried about all of this, and she joins me this morning. 118 00:06:31,480 --> 00:06:34,200 Speaker 5: Hello Joe, Good morning Andrew. 119 00:06:34,640 --> 00:06:37,080 Speaker 2: This is pretty dire, isn't it. These kids aren't just wagging, 120 00:06:37,120 --> 00:06:39,760 Speaker 2: They are choosing not to be educated for a year. 121 00:06:41,600 --> 00:06:42,640 Speaker 5: It is pretty worrying. 122 00:06:43,839 --> 00:06:44,640 Speaker 2: Why is it happening? 123 00:06:46,040 --> 00:06:49,640 Speaker 5: Wow? It's an interesting one obviously, at least since it 124 00:06:49,720 --> 00:06:52,880 Speaker 5: is a pretty tricky chime for young people. There are 125 00:06:52,960 --> 00:06:56,200 Speaker 5: lots of complex things happening in their lives. What we 126 00:06:56,240 --> 00:06:58,599 Speaker 5: are seeing at the Foundation, and we've noticed it since 127 00:06:58,760 --> 00:07:02,279 Speaker 5: after the twenty twenty guns, is that a number of 128 00:07:02,360 --> 00:07:05,000 Speaker 5: young people are flying under the radar. They're just becoming 129 00:07:05,080 --> 00:07:08,560 Speaker 5: less connected to their friends, they're learning, and their communities. 130 00:07:09,640 --> 00:07:13,560 Speaker 5: And what that tends to do is that tends to 131 00:07:13,600 --> 00:07:16,240 Speaker 5: have a long impact normal things like not just on 132 00:07:16,960 --> 00:07:21,040 Speaker 5: things like confidence, anxiety, loss of direction, but it can 133 00:07:21,120 --> 00:07:24,520 Speaker 5: have a really negative long term impact on their well being, 134 00:07:25,880 --> 00:07:29,280 Speaker 5: their educational outcomes, and of course the futures. 135 00:07:29,280 --> 00:07:31,280 Speaker 6: So what can start it. 136 00:07:31,280 --> 00:07:34,600 Speaker 5: Is something pretty small, massive impact on their lives. 137 00:07:34,800 --> 00:07:38,280 Speaker 2: It's not just the kid's choice here. The parents are complicent, 138 00:07:38,520 --> 00:07:41,760 Speaker 2: So why are they letting the kids get away with us? 139 00:07:43,560 --> 00:07:45,600 Speaker 5: Young people, if you've got some in your lives, are 140 00:07:46,560 --> 00:07:51,360 Speaker 5: complicated animals, and it is really hard to replace blame 141 00:07:51,680 --> 00:07:56,800 Speaker 5: entirely on parents or on students. What tends to happen 142 00:07:56,840 --> 00:07:59,640 Speaker 5: with young people at the stage is there are a 143 00:07:59,720 --> 00:08:03,000 Speaker 5: lot of complex things going a lot around that in 144 00:08:03,040 --> 00:08:07,720 Speaker 5: their lives that are needing to be managed. They will 145 00:08:07,760 --> 00:08:11,840 Speaker 5: be dealing with developmental, social, emotional, and environmental factors. Sometimes 146 00:08:11,840 --> 00:08:15,160 Speaker 5: the parents just don't know, sometimes they do. Sometimes there 147 00:08:15,160 --> 00:08:22,320 Speaker 5: are complex things happening happening in their families. The best 148 00:08:22,360 --> 00:08:24,720 Speaker 5: way that you can turn this around, or the best 149 00:08:24,720 --> 00:08:27,920 Speaker 5: way that you can can change this from happening, is 150 00:08:27,960 --> 00:08:31,840 Speaker 5: to try and engage early with young people. Can provide 151 00:08:31,880 --> 00:08:35,640 Speaker 5: consistent support about rege and that will reduce the risk 152 00:08:35,679 --> 00:08:41,360 Speaker 5: of of disengagement. It's really something you can start at five. 153 00:08:41,640 --> 00:08:45,319 Speaker 5: You can actually start it at four, things like building 154 00:08:48,080 --> 00:08:51,480 Speaker 5: coping skills as preschoolers, but you can start it at 155 00:08:51,520 --> 00:08:57,640 Speaker 5: five with creating some fun, interact experiential sessions that help 156 00:08:58,040 --> 00:09:01,480 Speaker 5: young people stay connected. With the feedback we got during 157 00:09:01,559 --> 00:09:04,400 Speaker 5: COVID around some of our provo school cadsers how much 158 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:08,720 Speaker 5: their attendance school happened. We know it attending here, we 159 00:09:08,800 --> 00:09:14,400 Speaker 5: can classes. It's a habit that resiliences built. You are 160 00:09:15,080 --> 00:09:21,120 Speaker 5: born with some inateability, but you you augment that by help. 161 00:09:21,240 --> 00:09:25,240 Speaker 5: But they're learning their experience. This is not a child 162 00:09:25,280 --> 00:09:27,800 Speaker 5: doesn't wake up at five and say I've got to 163 00:09:27,840 --> 00:09:31,160 Speaker 5: disengage from school now. There is a whole lot of 164 00:09:31,240 --> 00:09:34,520 Speaker 5: cumulative factors that cause that to happen. You can keep 165 00:09:34,520 --> 00:09:39,520 Speaker 5: them connected by staying alongside them and helping them learn 166 00:09:40,320 --> 00:09:44,440 Speaker 5: with their peers about why being engaged and connected to 167 00:09:44,480 --> 00:09:47,800 Speaker 5: their colleagues and connected to their schools, connected to their 168 00:09:47,800 --> 00:09:49,000 Speaker 5: communities is important. 169 00:09:49,040 --> 00:09:52,080 Speaker 2: Now, this was an election issue, so is the work 170 00:09:52,080 --> 00:09:55,000 Speaker 2: that the government doing on truancy working and what could 171 00:09:55,000 --> 00:09:55,520 Speaker 2: they do more? 172 00:09:58,600 --> 00:10:01,400 Speaker 5: It is hard to say the stay Obviously, we really 173 00:10:01,440 --> 00:10:05,680 Speaker 5: support the government getting involved in this subject because it 174 00:10:05,720 --> 00:10:11,240 Speaker 5: will change the impact of how our next duration has grown. 175 00:10:11,559 --> 00:10:13,560 Speaker 5: So we think it's a really good thing to do. 176 00:10:14,080 --> 00:10:18,040 Speaker 5: What we advocate for is working towards community approaches that 177 00:10:18,240 --> 00:10:23,480 Speaker 5: really really does take your whole community. Obviously, supportive families 178 00:10:23,640 --> 00:10:29,600 Speaker 5: and communities are important engagement of skilled teachers, but social 179 00:10:29,640 --> 00:10:35,280 Speaker 5: services and community organizations as well are important are important 180 00:10:35,360 --> 00:10:40,200 Speaker 5: to We will all create an environment that want to 181 00:10:40,240 --> 00:10:46,240 Speaker 5: stay connected to and parents support and the government feels 182 00:10:46,240 --> 00:10:46,760 Speaker 5: as valid. 183 00:10:47,320 --> 00:10:48,440 Speaker 6: All of those. 184 00:10:48,160 --> 00:10:51,040 Speaker 5: Things will create a social system that can make this 185 00:10:51,200 --> 00:10:51,880 Speaker 5: happen for us. 186 00:10:51,960 --> 00:10:53,760 Speaker 2: Jo American Black, I thank you so much for getting 187 00:10:53,800 --> 00:10:56,480 Speaker 2: up early for us and show as the CEO of 188 00:10:56,559 --> 00:11:01,160 Speaker 2: the Graham Dingle Foundation. And it is now five nineteen, 189 00:11:01,280 --> 00:11:03,600 Speaker 2: so let's be having you. The text number is ninety 190 00:11:03,640 --> 00:11:06,000 Speaker 2: two ninety two. I see, why don't we bring back well, 191 00:11:06,040 --> 00:11:09,080 Speaker 2: why don't we institute the All Backs against the Mardi 192 00:11:09,120 --> 00:11:11,640 Speaker 2: Allbacks is a preseason game to knock out the rustiness? 193 00:11:11,720 --> 00:11:14,160 Speaker 2: Is this a good idea? Is this not a good idea? 194 00:11:14,240 --> 00:11:17,040 Speaker 2: In speaking at sport, Andrew Ordison is with us next. 195 00:11:17,640 --> 00:11:22,319 Speaker 1: Andrew Dickens on early edition with ex bowl insulation keeping 196 00:11:22,400 --> 00:11:25,679 Speaker 1: Kili homes warm and try this winter news talks at 197 00:11:25,720 --> 00:11:27,120 Speaker 1: be so Inger. 198 00:11:27,080 --> 00:11:29,560 Speaker 2: Versus India and cricket is over and so we've got 199 00:11:29,559 --> 00:11:31,880 Speaker 2: the full attention of Andrew Ordison. Finally this morning, good 200 00:11:31,880 --> 00:11:32,920 Speaker 2: oneing your Andrew. 201 00:11:32,720 --> 00:11:35,080 Speaker 7: Morning andrewing Not quite, I mean Australia Western. He's still 202 00:11:35,080 --> 00:11:36,040 Speaker 7: going on as well, So. 203 00:11:37,600 --> 00:11:40,400 Speaker 2: It's never over in the cricket world. It's all Blacks 204 00:11:40,440 --> 00:11:43,520 Speaker 2: were rusty. France were better than expected. Actually I expected 205 00:11:43,559 --> 00:11:45,280 Speaker 2: them to be that good. To be fair. The top 206 00:11:45,320 --> 00:11:48,320 Speaker 2: fourteen's a brilliant competition. These are good players. I just said, 207 00:11:48,320 --> 00:11:50,600 Speaker 2: why don't we have a preseason hit out All Backs 208 00:11:50,679 --> 00:11:54,160 Speaker 2: versus Malory All Blacks in Pocacoe. This is like Old 209 00:11:54,200 --> 00:11:57,719 Speaker 2: North versus South day basketball versus probable Yeah, yeah, yeah, 210 00:11:57,760 --> 00:12:00,840 Speaker 2: those are the days with they karake. Yeah quite a 211 00:12:00,840 --> 00:12:03,000 Speaker 2: full on hit around, it'd be great, but we've got 212 00:12:03,000 --> 00:12:04,840 Speaker 2: to do something about the fact we always study every 213 00:12:04,840 --> 00:12:05,840 Speaker 2: season with a bad game. 214 00:12:06,640 --> 00:12:09,800 Speaker 7: Yeah, I think France really did play out of their skins. 215 00:12:10,160 --> 00:12:12,679 Speaker 7: I thought it was a really enjoyable test actually, and 216 00:12:12,720 --> 00:12:15,920 Speaker 7: they were in it the whole way obviously. And yeah, 217 00:12:15,960 --> 00:12:20,840 Speaker 7: I think sometimes we the temptations to underestimate size and 218 00:12:20,880 --> 00:12:23,200 Speaker 7: particularly the French, I mean, given their record against New 219 00:12:23,240 --> 00:12:24,520 Speaker 7: Zealand over the years. 220 00:12:24,880 --> 00:12:26,680 Speaker 2: But I thought the New Zealand performance was okay. 221 00:12:26,720 --> 00:12:29,560 Speaker 7: I mean, obviously the three TMO reversals, but there's just 222 00:12:29,600 --> 00:12:32,600 Speaker 7: a lack of discipline, Like you say, don't think. Yeah 223 00:12:32,640 --> 00:12:35,080 Speaker 7: they were, they were rusty. It's fair, a fair call, 224 00:12:35,200 --> 00:12:37,480 Speaker 7: but I suppose it takes a wee while to get 225 00:12:37,520 --> 00:12:38,000 Speaker 7: into actions. 226 00:12:38,080 --> 00:12:42,720 Speaker 2: So they moved to Wellington and we want revenge, yes, Cracker, 227 00:12:42,920 --> 00:12:45,719 Speaker 2: well yeah, yeah, bring on the UTU. Yeah exactly. You 228 00:12:46,080 --> 00:12:49,240 Speaker 2: forming the one today Silverstone. It rained a little bit 229 00:12:49,360 --> 00:12:52,000 Speaker 2: and Liam didn't even get through the first lap. And 230 00:12:52,040 --> 00:12:54,720 Speaker 2: what I thought was just ironic about that it was 231 00:12:54,720 --> 00:13:00,120 Speaker 2: a Yuki sin Node who forced Esteban Okhonn after the 232 00:13:00,200 --> 00:13:02,480 Speaker 2: left and slammed into the right of Liam and Liam 233 00:13:02,760 --> 00:13:04,200 Speaker 2: what the hell was that, yes. 234 00:13:04,240 --> 00:13:06,560 Speaker 7: Truck and trailer effect in Formula one, is it just 235 00:13:06,600 --> 00:13:09,800 Speaker 7: that knock on and your loss has gone before even 236 00:13:09,800 --> 00:13:13,000 Speaker 7: finishing the first lap, So I mean starting in fifteenth 237 00:13:13,040 --> 00:13:16,280 Speaker 7: towards the back of the grid anyway and leading iris 238 00:13:16,360 --> 00:13:20,800 Speaker 7: going on to infor McLaren. Likewise, with my teammate Oscar Piatra, 239 00:13:20,840 --> 00:13:22,679 Speaker 7: it's quite a duly at the front of Formula one, 240 00:13:22,720 --> 00:13:24,920 Speaker 7: isn't it. But I think one of the key facts 241 00:13:24,960 --> 00:13:28,080 Speaker 7: this morning, editor is Nika Holkenberg two hundred and thirty 242 00:13:28,080 --> 00:13:30,080 Speaker 7: eight forty to one starts, never been on the podium 243 00:13:30,320 --> 00:13:31,240 Speaker 7: and he's there this morning. 244 00:13:31,320 --> 00:13:35,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, so absolutely yeah. And Wimbledon last week was 245 00:13:35,920 --> 00:13:38,640 Speaker 2: the week the seeds fell. This this week is the 246 00:13:38,640 --> 00:13:39,920 Speaker 2: week we find out who will win. 247 00:13:39,960 --> 00:13:43,960 Speaker 7: Exactly it is and well Seberleinka looking particularly strong and 248 00:13:43,960 --> 00:13:47,760 Speaker 7: the women's draw she's through. Anastasia public Tenkov is through 249 00:13:47,760 --> 00:13:53,120 Speaker 7: this morning as well, so Lara Sigemund is another who's 250 00:13:53,120 --> 00:13:55,480 Speaker 7: made it through to those quarter finals. Taylor Fritz has 251 00:13:55,520 --> 00:13:57,280 Speaker 7: had a walk over over Jordan Thompson as well, and 252 00:13:57,280 --> 00:13:59,760 Speaker 7: the men's raw a couple more of those games still 253 00:13:59,800 --> 00:14:02,679 Speaker 7: cut this morning. Is we update you with with all 254 00:14:02,880 --> 00:14:04,960 Speaker 7: the action from each w iteen. 255 00:14:04,800 --> 00:14:08,720 Speaker 2: Great stuff, Nice to have you here. Five four. Yes 256 00:14:08,760 --> 00:14:13,440 Speaker 2: it is. Congestion pricing is coming. More on this in. 257 00:14:15,960 --> 00:14:20,320 Speaker 1: The early edition full show podcast on iHeartRadio powered by 258 00:14:20,400 --> 00:14:21,160 Speaker 1: News Talks. 259 00:14:20,880 --> 00:14:24,120 Speaker 2: At Me News Talks B five twenty seven. This is 260 00:14:24,240 --> 00:14:27,680 Speaker 2: early edition. I'm Andrew Dickens. So Infrastructure Minister Chris Bishop 261 00:14:27,760 --> 00:14:29,760 Speaker 2: is in the United States for a range of meetings 262 00:14:29,800 --> 00:14:33,680 Speaker 2: across housing, planning, development and transport, and he's in fact 263 00:14:33,720 --> 00:14:36,040 Speaker 2: in New York right now to speak to city officials 264 00:14:36,320 --> 00:14:40,960 Speaker 2: about their congestion pricing. And that makes it seem as 265 00:14:41,000 --> 00:14:43,760 Speaker 2: though congestion charges are inevitable in this country, and not 266 00:14:43,800 --> 00:14:46,040 Speaker 2: just for the basket case that is Auckland. I think 267 00:14:46,040 --> 00:14:48,480 Speaker 2: Totalager and Wellington will be in the firing line as well, 268 00:14:48,560 --> 00:14:51,320 Speaker 2: and the point about them is not just to ease 269 00:14:51,360 --> 00:14:53,400 Speaker 2: congestion on our roads, but it will be a white 270 00:14:53,440 --> 00:14:55,800 Speaker 2: lie to assertain that it's not a money maker as well. 271 00:14:56,520 --> 00:14:59,680 Speaker 2: So when not if Chris Bishop comes back and pulls 272 00:14:59,720 --> 00:15:02,480 Speaker 2: the place non congestion charges in this country, the question 273 00:15:02,600 --> 00:15:04,560 Speaker 2: is who will get the money? And I think it's 274 00:15:04,560 --> 00:15:06,600 Speaker 2: a no brainer that any money raised in a district 275 00:15:06,600 --> 00:15:09,960 Speaker 2: should be reinvested in that district. That's Wayne Brown's position 276 00:15:10,040 --> 00:15:12,800 Speaker 2: on the matter, and the legislation that has already been 277 00:15:12,800 --> 00:15:16,480 Speaker 2: proposed to do that says that, but never under estimate 278 00:15:16,520 --> 00:15:19,680 Speaker 2: a government's ability to hold on to any revenue, so 279 00:15:19,760 --> 00:15:22,240 Speaker 2: stay vigilant on this now. The other thing to note 280 00:15:22,240 --> 00:15:25,560 Speaker 2: about congestion charges overseas is that the cities that have 281 00:15:25,640 --> 00:15:29,240 Speaker 2: them have alternative transport options, you know, the underground or 282 00:15:29,280 --> 00:15:33,440 Speaker 2: the subway. Auckland CRL rail project means the city will 283 00:15:33,520 --> 00:15:36,440 Speaker 2: have an alternative, but introducing it elsewhere I'd like Teldonger, 284 00:15:36,760 --> 00:15:40,320 Speaker 2: maybe even Wellington would be unfair. And it's an irony 285 00:15:40,720 --> 00:15:44,280 Speaker 2: that the electorate's unwillingness to invest tax money into public 286 00:15:44,320 --> 00:15:47,960 Speaker 2: transport means that pressure is now mounting to take money 287 00:15:48,000 --> 00:15:51,560 Speaker 2: off them for congestion. And you know you can't escape tax, 288 00:15:51,600 --> 00:15:55,680 Speaker 2: and make no mistake about it, congestion pricing is a tax? 289 00:15:56,320 --> 00:15:59,160 Speaker 2: Is it a tax? Technically, taxes are used to raise 290 00:15:59,160 --> 00:16:03,240 Speaker 2: revenue for broad public spending. Congestion pricing designed to manage 291 00:16:03,280 --> 00:16:06,440 Speaker 2: demand and change behavior, But it's still the government taking 292 00:16:06,480 --> 00:16:08,840 Speaker 2: money off you. It feels like a tax, and therefore 293 00:16:08,880 --> 00:16:11,760 Speaker 2: it's a tax. So it would be very rich for 294 00:16:11,840 --> 00:16:14,520 Speaker 2: a national party to claim in the next election we 295 00:16:14,600 --> 00:16:17,440 Speaker 2: are not the party of taxation, and that just on 296 00:16:17,560 --> 00:16:20,640 Speaker 2: arrests only with the left wing. No, they're going to 297 00:16:20,720 --> 00:16:24,840 Speaker 2: tax us for driving on roads. And you know what, 298 00:16:25,080 --> 00:16:28,760 Speaker 2: I haven't met any politician from either side who actually, 299 00:16:28,760 --> 00:16:31,480 Speaker 2: in their heart of hearts doesn't like a good tax. 300 00:16:31,920 --> 00:16:35,960 Speaker 2: But some are just too shy to admit it. Sid 301 00:16:37,160 --> 00:16:40,240 Speaker 2: I have a wonderful feel good story for you coming 302 00:16:40,320 --> 00:16:43,000 Speaker 2: up right after the news. It's a guy who's just 303 00:16:43,040 --> 00:16:46,040 Speaker 2: got the most magnificent voice, fantastic singer. But it's a 304 00:16:46,080 --> 00:16:48,760 Speaker 2: guy who stepped away from singing. In fact, he cancel 305 00:16:48,840 --> 00:16:52,160 Speaker 2: the concert tour of New Zealand. But now he's back 306 00:16:52,640 --> 00:16:55,160 Speaker 2: and I can tell you I should tell you after 307 00:16:55,160 --> 00:16:57,480 Speaker 2: the break, I'm going to tell you now he's coming back. 308 00:16:57,680 --> 00:17:00,200 Speaker 2: So who is it and when is he coming back? 309 00:17:00,800 --> 00:17:02,960 Speaker 2: That is on its way. Also Gavin Gray from the 310 00:17:03,040 --> 00:17:07,840 Speaker 2: UK and Jason Walls as Paul Goldsmith starts thinking that 311 00:17:08,000 --> 00:17:12,360 Speaker 2: minimums sentences are possibly a good idea. This is early edition. 312 00:17:12,400 --> 00:17:14,640 Speaker 2: I'm Andrew Dickens and for Bryan Bridge, he'll be doing 313 00:17:14,640 --> 00:17:17,320 Speaker 2: the Drive show today. It's time for the fight that 314 00:17:17,440 --> 00:17:20,000 Speaker 2: he news ah been a sabbath. 315 00:17:35,880 --> 00:17:38,440 Speaker 1: The news you need this morning and the in depth 316 00:17:38,480 --> 00:17:42,600 Speaker 1: analysis earlier this year, Andrew Dickens and x fol installation 317 00:17:42,960 --> 00:17:46,359 Speaker 1: keeping Kiwi Holmes warm and dry this winter news talks in. 318 00:17:46,440 --> 00:17:52,960 Speaker 8: Me already, so's finn a good? Or to forget me, 319 00:17:54,720 --> 00:18:00,560 Speaker 8: I'm glad it kills Ji glad me and pray God 320 00:18:00,640 --> 00:18:11,160 Speaker 8: that you're never mad and for Agador magic genor Claudia Man. 321 00:18:12,280 --> 00:18:17,560 Speaker 2: But he's so good after all this time and is 322 00:18:17,600 --> 00:18:22,120 Speaker 2: the voice of English superstar good Lewis Capaldi. Now Lewis 323 00:18:22,200 --> 00:18:24,160 Speaker 2: is the guy who stepped away from touring and recording 324 00:18:24,640 --> 00:18:27,879 Speaker 2: because of a battle with mental illness, most noticeably terrets, 325 00:18:28,920 --> 00:18:32,639 Speaker 2: which ironically makes him a very entertaining stage show. The 326 00:18:32,760 --> 00:18:36,520 Speaker 2: old Turrets, he says some funny stuff, but he stepped away. 327 00:18:36,600 --> 00:18:38,600 Speaker 2: He in fact canceled a tour of New Zealand. But 328 00:18:38,720 --> 00:18:41,280 Speaker 2: at Glastonbury a week ago he made an emotional comeback 329 00:18:41,359 --> 00:18:43,560 Speaker 2: to the stage. He came out and he sang, and 330 00:18:43,680 --> 00:18:47,760 Speaker 2: he cried, and fifty thousand people cried and it was 331 00:18:47,800 --> 00:18:50,120 Speaker 2: triumphants and his voice was just as good as it's 332 00:18:50,119 --> 00:18:51,920 Speaker 2: always been. It was beautiful to see him back in. 333 00:18:51,960 --> 00:18:55,400 Speaker 2: Today it's announced he's coming back to New Zealand playing 334 00:18:55,480 --> 00:18:58,480 Speaker 2: christ Church at Wolfbrook on Sunday, the thirtieth of November, 335 00:18:58,560 --> 00:19:01,159 Speaker 2: orkn Spark Arena Tuesday, the week of December. Tickets go 336 00:19:01,240 --> 00:19:05,720 Speaker 2: on sale Monday, July fourteenth. That's Vast Steel Day. Welcome back, Lewis, 337 00:19:05,800 --> 00:19:08,080 Speaker 2: You're a brave man. Meanwhile, we played some Black Sabbath 338 00:19:08,200 --> 00:19:12,040 Speaker 2: just before the news. The band did another final concert. 339 00:19:12,119 --> 00:19:14,639 Speaker 2: They've done them before twenty years ago. They did it again. 340 00:19:15,560 --> 00:19:18,479 Speaker 2: They did a four song set on Saturday night at 341 00:19:18,560 --> 00:19:21,600 Speaker 2: Villa Park and Birmingham and before that Ozzy Osborne came 342 00:19:21,600 --> 00:19:23,960 Speaker 2: out and performed a brief solo set and it was hilarious. 343 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:26,639 Speaker 2: He rose out of the stage sitting down on a 344 00:19:26,720 --> 00:19:31,440 Speaker 2: throne and the throne was decorated with bats and it 345 00:19:31,520 --> 00:19:34,119 Speaker 2: was a great gig. Guns and Roses played, Stephen Tyler played, 346 00:19:34,400 --> 00:19:39,320 Speaker 2: Sammy Hagar from Van Halen played. Allison Chains were there 347 00:19:39,400 --> 00:19:41,000 Speaker 2: as well. It was a great gig. And one other 348 00:19:41,040 --> 00:19:44,080 Speaker 2: great gig over the weekend. Oasis is back. They played 349 00:19:44,119 --> 00:19:47,160 Speaker 2: in Cardiff in front of seventy thousand people, first time 350 00:19:47,200 --> 00:19:50,159 Speaker 2: they played together since two thousand and nine. And the 351 00:19:50,200 --> 00:19:53,320 Speaker 2: good thing about that the boys didn't hit each other. 352 00:19:53,560 --> 00:19:58,520 Speaker 2: It's twenty two to six said be around the country. 353 00:19:58,600 --> 00:20:00,639 Speaker 2: We go to Janet and Callum prok good morning to you, 354 00:20:00,720 --> 00:20:04,160 Speaker 2: Callum morning, Andrew and accolade for Otaga University. 355 00:20:05,400 --> 00:20:09,240 Speaker 9: Yeah, the institution's been ranked first for student performance amongst 356 00:20:09,280 --> 00:20:13,320 Speaker 9: New Zealand universities. So that maintains an unbroken record for 357 00:20:13,440 --> 00:20:16,120 Speaker 9: Otiger University, which stretches back more than a decade. Now, 358 00:20:16,720 --> 00:20:20,680 Speaker 9: this is the annual educational performance indicators. They examined course 359 00:20:20,720 --> 00:20:25,199 Speaker 9: and qualification completion rates, first year attention and progressions are 360 00:20:25,280 --> 00:20:28,719 Speaker 9: higher levels of study. So Otago ranks first for qualification 361 00:20:28,880 --> 00:20:32,439 Speaker 9: completion and second for course completion and first year attention. 362 00:20:32,560 --> 00:20:35,560 Speaker 9: So that's the strongest result of any university. The Vice Chancellor, 363 00:20:35,640 --> 00:20:38,320 Speaker 9: Grant Robinson says these results are a testament to the 364 00:20:38,400 --> 00:20:40,200 Speaker 9: dedication of students and its staff. 365 00:20:40,440 --> 00:20:42,520 Speaker 2: That's cool. Meanwhile, Dunedin's still cold. 366 00:20:43,400 --> 00:20:46,000 Speaker 9: It is eleven the high today. Chance of a morning 367 00:20:46,080 --> 00:20:47,960 Speaker 9: shower nor easterly is developing here today. 368 00:20:48,160 --> 00:20:49,760 Speaker 2: Christ you as we go, clere, sure we are good 369 00:20:49,800 --> 00:20:50,200 Speaker 2: morning to you. 370 00:20:50,560 --> 00:20:51,200 Speaker 4: Good morning. 371 00:20:51,440 --> 00:20:53,760 Speaker 2: Does Air New Zealand want more international roots in and 372 00:20:53,840 --> 00:20:54,600 Speaker 2: out of christ Church? 373 00:20:54,960 --> 00:20:56,840 Speaker 10: Wow, that's what we're trying to work out to Andrew 374 00:20:56,920 --> 00:20:58,920 Speaker 10: and in New Zealand is definitely not ruling it out 375 00:20:59,160 --> 00:21:01,720 Speaker 10: at this point. The Garden City, as we know, has 376 00:21:01,760 --> 00:21:04,840 Speaker 10: become a magnet for airlines recently. I've been here sharing 377 00:21:05,119 --> 00:21:08,800 Speaker 10: that Quantus, Singapore Airlines, China Southern have all increased their 378 00:21:08,880 --> 00:21:12,280 Speaker 10: capacity over summer. Our national carrier has also announced that 379 00:21:12,320 --> 00:21:15,359 Speaker 10: there's a christ Church to Adelaide route starting from October. 380 00:21:15,760 --> 00:21:17,920 Speaker 10: It used to run a direct service to LA but 381 00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:20,679 Speaker 10: that was stopped in two thousand and six. The reason 382 00:21:20,800 --> 00:21:23,439 Speaker 10: for that at the time was financial downturn in New 383 00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:27,719 Speaker 10: Zealand's long haul manager, Kylie Migilvray Brown says launching new 384 00:21:27,800 --> 00:21:30,600 Speaker 10: routes does depend on several factors, including the likes of 385 00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:34,920 Speaker 10: customer demand, as well as fleet capacity and operational considerations. 386 00:21:35,200 --> 00:21:37,440 Speaker 10: She says though they are continuing to assess how christ 387 00:21:37,520 --> 00:21:41,240 Speaker 10: Church fits into the company's wider international strategy as the 388 00:21:41,320 --> 00:21:44,560 Speaker 10: fleet grows. And it's not warm and Canterbury today, No, 389 00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:47,880 Speaker 10: it's cloudy here, northeasteries particularly a bit later. 390 00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:48,600 Speaker 5: And a high of nine. 391 00:21:48,960 --> 00:21:51,720 Speaker 2: Max told joins us from Willington. How Max, good morning, 392 00:21:51,800 --> 00:21:53,960 Speaker 2: We've got another baby death, this time in your region. 393 00:21:54,600 --> 00:21:57,840 Speaker 11: Yeah, there's been a devastating space of baby related home 394 00:21:57,920 --> 00:22:00,400 Speaker 11: cases in the past few weeks that awful to discovery 395 00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:03,080 Speaker 11: in a wheely bin in Ponstanby included a thirty two 396 00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:06,320 Speaker 11: year old woman charged with interfering with human remains there. 397 00:22:07,119 --> 00:22:10,040 Speaker 11: Then we learned of serious fractures and breaks are suffered 398 00:22:10,040 --> 00:22:12,080 Speaker 11: by a three month old girl in the hud Valley. 399 00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:15,360 Speaker 11: She was taken to hospital by family last month, where 400 00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:19,200 Speaker 11: staff alerted authorities. Police notified us about that case last 401 00:22:19,240 --> 00:22:22,840 Speaker 11: week and now a homicide investigation also underway after the 402 00:22:22,880 --> 00:22:25,960 Speaker 11: death of a six month old found with critical injuries 403 00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:29,080 Speaker 11: at a house at Foxton Beach. Police have already spoken 404 00:22:29,119 --> 00:22:31,359 Speaker 11: to a number of people there and we'll liaise with 405 00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:35,959 Speaker 11: medical experts. How's your weather party, cloudy with light showers 406 00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:39,280 Speaker 11: today ten the high in Wellington talk can we go Nino? 407 00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:41,560 Speaker 2: Let him man a good morning to you morning injury. 408 00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:44,359 Speaker 2: So today auckn golfers find out where the half of 409 00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:47,320 Speaker 2: the Takapuna golf course could be turned into a swamp. 410 00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:51,960 Speaker 12: Well, yes, an announcement will be made so yeah. The 411 00:22:52,040 --> 00:22:56,320 Speaker 12: council weighing up this redevelopment option so to improve vulnerability. 412 00:22:56,400 --> 00:22:58,680 Speaker 12: This is in the north Shore suburb of Milford. The 413 00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:01,480 Speaker 12: city council's considering two earning half that course as you're 414 00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:04,560 Speaker 12: saying to wetland to take on floodwaters. Now, this was 415 00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:06,720 Speaker 12: one of the worst affected areas, you know, that was 416 00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:10,240 Speaker 12: the flooding of the Anniversary weekend twenty twenty three. The 417 00:23:10,440 --> 00:23:14,879 Speaker 12: proposed transition would reduce the course from eighteen holes to nine. 418 00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:18,200 Speaker 12: So let's just see what happens. That announcement will be 419 00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:19,560 Speaker 12: well is expected today. 420 00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:21,880 Speaker 2: I think you'll find that the people of Glenfield would 421 00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:25,680 Speaker 2: say it's their course and not Milford's. Well, but that's 422 00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:26,960 Speaker 2: another thing. How's Awkin's weather? 423 00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:31,320 Speaker 12: Fine becoming partly cloudy from the afternoon cold though today's 424 00:23:31,359 --> 00:23:33,439 Speaker 12: high fourteen. Currently it's five degrees. 425 00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:37,159 Speaker 2: I imagine congestion charges just before the news. I think 426 00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:39,640 Speaker 2: it's coming, and we've got Chris Bishop in New York 427 00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:42,119 Speaker 2: trying to see what's happening there and where does the 428 00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:44,920 Speaker 2: money go once it's paid to get rid of the congestion. 429 00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:47,040 Speaker 2: I said, it's going to go back into the roads 430 00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:50,720 Speaker 2: of the district. Rob Reckins. No congestion charges must go 431 00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:54,399 Speaker 2: to debt repayments that Durnham Robertson put us into and 432 00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:56,919 Speaker 2: that of course, Nikola Willis is running just as much 433 00:23:57,000 --> 00:24:01,560 Speaker 2: debt as ever, so that's one things that shouldn't tarog 434 00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:05,280 Speaker 2: and get money from it. No, given Taruga Council's spending record, 435 00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:08,080 Speaker 2: there will be nothing useful for the public done with 436 00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:12,320 Speaker 2: this money. And finally a textas says Andrew Shirley, Chris 437 00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:15,040 Speaker 2: Bishop will be better off visiting a city where congestion 438 00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:19,000 Speaker 2: charging has already been implemented. The New York program launches 439 00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:22,680 Speaker 2: this year, but Singapore has been running congestion charging since 440 00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:26,159 Speaker 2: nineteen ninety three. Is supposed to chart of success. Yeahere 441 00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:28,920 Speaker 2: he's doing other stuff in New York. He's also going 442 00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:32,400 Speaker 2: to Texas as well. So now it's seventeen minutes to six. 443 00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:35,800 Speaker 2: Can you believe it's been twenty years since the London 444 00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:38,080 Speaker 2: terror attacks? Remember the one that happened down in the 445 00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:40,399 Speaker 2: underground and they blew up a bus and there were 446 00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:44,160 Speaker 2: kiwis involved and its horrific. Yes, it's twenty years ago, 447 00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:47,520 Speaker 2: so what's happening on the anniversary? Gavin Gray from the 448 00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:51,560 Speaker 2: UK is next. It's seventeen to six, So good news 449 00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:53,960 Speaker 2: for MILF that they've just taken out the consumer New 450 00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:57,320 Speaker 2: Zealand people's Choice Award kiwi Saver for their milf a 451 00:24:57,400 --> 00:24:59,679 Speaker 2: kiwisab plan. 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You may want to get some 467 00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:51,800 Speaker 2: financial advice and for more information on Milford's advice services 468 00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:55,720 Speaker 2: and to see their financial advice provider disclosure statement, please 469 00:25:55,840 --> 00:26:00,200 Speaker 2: visit Milford Asset dot com slash Getting Advice. 470 00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:04,800 Speaker 1: International Correspondence with ins and eye insurance, feace of mind 471 00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:07,880 Speaker 1: for New Zealand business lead into Sex. 472 00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:11,320 Speaker 2: Kevin Gray out of the UK, Good morning to you either, Andrew. 473 00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:13,480 Speaker 2: I can't believe it's been twenty years since the London 474 00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:16,560 Speaker 2: terror texts in the underground and on the buses as well, 475 00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:18,639 Speaker 2: and we've got some bloke who's been talking about it 476 00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:20,160 Speaker 2: and how it's still affixed us today. 477 00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:24,480 Speaker 13: Yes, so demark the twentieth anniversary, which is Monday, the 478 00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:26,800 Speaker 13: seventh of July a few hours yet on our time, 479 00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:31,160 Speaker 13: but the twentieth anniversary of the terrible suicide bombing attacking 480 00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:34,119 Speaker 13: three underground trains and a bus, leaving fifty two people 481 00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:37,119 Speaker 13: dead seven hundred and fifty injured. There will be events 482 00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:41,199 Speaker 13: around London to remember that day tomorrow our time, Monday. 483 00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:46,360 Speaker 13: But one of the former head of counter terrorism officers 484 00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:49,000 Speaker 13: here in the UK was saying he is in no 485 00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:53,240 Speaker 13: doubt that foreign policy was a driver behind that atrocity 486 00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:55,880 Speaker 13: and it is left behind it. He described a sole 487 00:26:56,000 --> 00:27:01,080 Speaker 13: destroying legacy of a rise in hate, he said. Neil Bassu, 488 00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:03,720 Speaker 13: who was for many years the head of counter Terrorism, 489 00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:08,280 Speaker 13: said governments needed to accept that foreign policy currently like 490 00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:12,320 Speaker 13: britain stance on Israel and Gaza could have a direct 491 00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:16,280 Speaker 13: effect on domestic security. He basically said that the seven 492 00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:20,880 Speaker 13: to seven attacks was a foreign policy and Iraq driven attack. 493 00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:23,200 Speaker 13: He said he doesn't excuse it, of course, but he 494 00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:26,400 Speaker 13: said it led to radicalization and made extremists of people 495 00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:29,640 Speaker 13: who might not have been radicalized or extreme. It's tough 496 00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:31,639 Speaker 13: reading this, very difficult, Andrew. 497 00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:34,359 Speaker 2: Okay, Now, meanwhile, we've got an eighty three year old 498 00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:37,800 Speaker 2: vicar who got arrested as part of a Palestine protest. 499 00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:38,679 Speaker 2: Tell me that story. 500 00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:41,520 Speaker 13: Yeah, so it kind of comes off the back of 501 00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:44,720 Speaker 13: that twentieth anniversary story that I was just saying there. 502 00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:49,639 Speaker 13: So at the weekend, the government made Palestine Action a 503 00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:55,080 Speaker 13: prescribed terrorist organization. Palestine Action seeks to be very critical 504 00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:58,520 Speaker 13: of Israel, of course, as saying that they are conducting 505 00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:03,480 Speaker 13: genocide is relicor strongly denying this. But Palestine Action also 506 00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:07,800 Speaker 13: went onto an RAF base, breaking in and painted some 507 00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:12,080 Speaker 13: Royal Air Force planes with the graffiti. It has cost 508 00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:15,600 Speaker 13: several million New Zealand dollars to repair. And the government 509 00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:18,640 Speaker 13: then acted saying it's prescribed it as a terrorist organization, 510 00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:23,280 Speaker 13: which means that it's now anybody relating to it can 511 00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:26,080 Speaker 13: be charged under the Terrorism Act of two thousand, which 512 00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:29,840 Speaker 13: is suddenly is suddenly much more serious. Even supporting it 513 00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:33,840 Speaker 13: or giving it any sort of direct action membership of 514 00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:37,000 Speaker 13: it can be punishable bar up to fourteen years in prison. 515 00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:40,880 Speaker 13: And today, or rather yesterday, there were a group of 516 00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:43,320 Speaker 13: a couple of dozen people, maybe three dozen people in 517 00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:50,920 Speaker 13: London saying we decry the genocide, but we support Palestine action. Well, 518 00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:53,800 Speaker 13: I'm afraid they were arrested and even if you're wearing 519 00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:56,360 Speaker 13: a T shirt with the group's name on, can attract 520 00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:58,880 Speaker 13: a maximum of a six month sentence. And as you 521 00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:01,960 Speaker 13: said in among those arrests an eighty three year old 522 00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:02,960 Speaker 13: female vicar. 523 00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:05,480 Speaker 2: All right, Gavin Gray the UK, I thank you. It 524 00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:08,200 Speaker 2: is news Talk ZIP. Early addition, it is ten to six. 525 00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:09,960 Speaker 1: ZIBB. 526 00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:13,680 Speaker 2: It's a recess week for Parliament. But the government still 527 00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:16,080 Speaker 2: has a lot of ideas being thrown around. Yesterday morning, 528 00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:19,400 Speaker 2: Justice ministerpau Goldsmith floated the idea on Q and A 529 00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:23,360 Speaker 2: of introducing minimum or mandatory sentences for certain crimes. And 530 00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:26,280 Speaker 2: the government's also seeking advice from Inland Revenue around the 531 00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:29,280 Speaker 2: tax settings for our major banks. And we've got phase 532 00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:31,840 Speaker 2: two of the COVID nineteen war Commission of Inquiry getting 533 00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:34,600 Speaker 2: underway to day, so to join us to talk about this. 534 00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:37,120 Speaker 2: It's good morning once again to our political editor, but 535 00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:39,800 Speaker 2: only for another month. Jason Wall's good morning to you. 536 00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:43,680 Speaker 2: Good morning. So these changes to the tax setting. This 537 00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:45,840 Speaker 2: is a little bit ironic since we learned last week 538 00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:48,520 Speaker 2: that the banks are our biggest corporate taxpayers. 539 00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:52,880 Speaker 6: Well, I mean, it's an interesting article to read nicol 540 00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:55,640 Speaker 6: Willis confirming to The Herald that a wide range of 541 00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:59,520 Speaker 6: options are being considered to ensure the major banks are 542 00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:03,560 Speaker 6: paying their share in tax. And it's noting that they'll 543 00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:07,160 Speaker 6: be looking at but in the next year's budget, which 544 00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:10,160 Speaker 6: is just a few months before the general election. So 545 00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:13,280 Speaker 6: it's interesting to see nicol Willis making this move because 546 00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:16,240 Speaker 6: she's in the past has not been shy about calling 547 00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:19,320 Speaker 6: out the banks or the supermarkets or any of the 548 00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:22,560 Speaker 6: big players in New Zealand's economy, because she wants to 549 00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:24,520 Speaker 6: get this idea that you know, she's on the side 550 00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:28,520 Speaker 6: of Kiwi consumers rather than big banks. So I'm interested 551 00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:29,680 Speaker 6: to see where this one ends up. 552 00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:31,720 Speaker 2: Yes, so am I. But they're looking for text because 553 00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:33,400 Speaker 2: they got debts, so you know that's what they're doing, 554 00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:37,280 Speaker 2: Paul Goldsmith and the minimum and mandatory sentences floated yesterday. 555 00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:40,520 Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean it makes sense that this one was 556 00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:43,680 Speaker 6: floated yesterday after the week of Top on crime and 557 00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:47,320 Speaker 6: the government really really really digging in its heels of 558 00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:50,520 Speaker 6: a crime last week and really owning that narrative. So 559 00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:54,200 Speaker 6: now to hear that Justice Municipaul Goldsmith says it's the 560 00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:59,080 Speaker 6: possibility that the government could introduce more minimum or mandatory 561 00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:02,760 Speaker 6: sentences for crime. Is it's expected? You know, this is 562 00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:05,200 Speaker 6: something that he talked about before. This is something that 563 00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:08,400 Speaker 6: the government has mused about in the past and to 564 00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:12,600 Speaker 6: see this forty minimum sentence being sort of floated around 565 00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:14,920 Speaker 6: by the Justice Minister doesn't surprise me. 566 00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:17,920 Speaker 2: And the new and improved COVID nineteen Rold Commission starts 567 00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:20,040 Speaker 2: off today. Now this is going to be a fight. 568 00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:24,880 Speaker 6: It is, and it's sort of the more meaty part 569 00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:28,160 Speaker 6: of the inquiry this. You know, the government was or 570 00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:31,640 Speaker 6: the former government was criticized for its COVID inquiry not 571 00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:34,680 Speaker 6: really having the teeth, not really getting into things that 572 00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:36,760 Speaker 6: a lot of people wanted to see it get into 573 00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:39,760 Speaker 6: this one and this was put back on the menu 574 00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:42,720 Speaker 6: by both the Act and New Zealand first parties when 575 00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:45,520 Speaker 6: the government was put around the table by the people 576 00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:48,920 Speaker 6: is yeah, it is the part that's going to be 577 00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:52,160 Speaker 6: really actually looked at by a lot of people in 578 00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:55,440 Speaker 6: terms of what went on to around the sort of 579 00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:58,280 Speaker 6: the more meaty parts of COVID towards the end. 580 00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:02,160 Speaker 2: Well, Jason, part might be in recess. But you sound 581 00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:03,520 Speaker 2: like you've got a busy day ahead of you and 582 00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:05,320 Speaker 2: I thank you for joining us this morning News Talks 583 00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:06,440 Speaker 2: there be it is seven to. 584 00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:11,320 Speaker 1: Six the first word on the News of the Day 585 00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:15,880 Speaker 1: Early edition with Andrew Dickins and x Fole Insulation keeping 586 00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:19,120 Speaker 1: Kiwi Holmes warm and dry. This Winter News Talks at 587 00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:19,720 Speaker 1: B SOS. 588 00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:21,880 Speaker 2: You just heard on Q and A yesterday Paul Goldsmith 589 00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:24,280 Speaker 2: a bit of that. The government's looking at minimum sentences now. 590 00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:28,360 Speaker 2: There are five downsides to that. One, Judges can't tail 591 00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:31,520 Speaker 2: the sentences to specific circumstances of a case. Every case 592 00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:36,360 Speaker 2: is different too. Minimum sentences often disproportionately affect low level offenders, 593 00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:40,000 Speaker 2: particularly drug related cases. You know, marijuana smoker versus a 594 00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:45,280 Speaker 2: meth smoker. Three, increased prison populations whatever, four reduced and 595 00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:49,200 Speaker 2: Center for Rehabilitation, why bother and it's questionable whether the 596 00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:51,760 Speaker 2: sentences stopped the crims committing the crime in the first place, 597 00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:54,400 Speaker 2: because frankly, they don't give a damn. So David Seymour, 598 00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:57,320 Speaker 2: the Deputy Prime Minister on this on the Breakfast Show, 599 00:32:57,400 --> 00:33:00,360 Speaker 2: along with a Q A Case AKC in the show 600 00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:04,440 Speaker 2: who's hosted by Head, they do good morning, Welcome to 601 00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:05,160 Speaker 2: the earlies. 602 00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:06,960 Speaker 14: Jesus, a change, isn't it. Do you know what I've 603 00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:08,600 Speaker 14: just done is I've jammed the paper. 604 00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:13,320 Speaker 2: Oh you mean the little one by his desk, not 605 00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:14,720 Speaker 2: the big one that everyone uses. 606 00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:19,240 Speaker 14: You that when I say hoskings, I mean literally that 607 00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:21,040 Speaker 14: the stuff that we set aside for him to make 608 00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:24,320 Speaker 14: his life as easy as possible. I've jammed as printers 609 00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:24,960 Speaker 14: trying to fix it. 610 00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:26,120 Speaker 2: You've got two weeks to fix it. 611 00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:30,080 Speaker 14: Yeah, well it probably will take the entire two weeks. 612 00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:33,440 Speaker 14: Listen on the sentencing thing, We've got Ron Young, former 613 00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:35,600 Speaker 14: former High Court judge, who's going to be with us 614 00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:36,400 Speaker 14: to talk us through it. 615 00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:36,840 Speaker 2: I don't know. 616 00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:38,800 Speaker 14: I don't know about you, but I feel absolutely no 617 00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:42,320 Speaker 14: sense of sadness for criminals should they get a minimum 618 00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:46,320 Speaker 14: sentence of course. However, however, I suspect Ron may not agree, 619 00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:47,800 Speaker 14: but you've got you got to write a good law 620 00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:50,040 Speaker 14: that's you know, that takes into account that that that 621 00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:51,760 Speaker 14: you know, a marijuana dealer. 622 00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:53,400 Speaker 2: Is different to a meth dealer. Blah blah blah blah blah. 623 00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:55,280 Speaker 14: I'm sure the judges will try the very hardest to 624 00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:55,720 Speaker 14: consider the. 625 00:33:57,440 --> 00:33:59,400 Speaker 2: Lauren till themselves, hence the minimum. 626 00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:00,200 Speaker 1: So that'll on. 627 00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:01,800 Speaker 14: And yeah, we've got heaps to cover off today. 628 00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:03,360 Speaker 2: Great, love you to see you, and I'm here for 629 00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:06,520 Speaker 2: a fortnight as well. Well, Mike does whatever Mike does, 630 00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:09,240 Speaker 2: and Ryan's doing drive. See you tomorrow. 631 00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:13,359 Speaker 1: For more from Early Edition with Ryan Bridge. Listen live 632 00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:16,480 Speaker 1: to News Talks it Be from five am weekdays, or 633 00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:18,480 Speaker 1: follow the podcast on iHeartRadio