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Speaker 1: On the Huddle of Us this evening, we have Ali Jones,

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Speaker 1: red pr and Liam Here, lawyer and political commentator. How

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Speaker 1: are you two, Ali? How's the weather with you?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? It's are you going to sing? That's the song,

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Speaker 2: isn't it? It is pretty windy, but it's northwestern. I'm

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Speaker 2: just telling Betty that it's dusty.

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Speaker 3: I'm grumpy.

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Speaker 2: I've got a headache. There's dust everywhere. I can't take

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Speaker 2: the dog out because they will blow away just over it. Really,

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Speaker 2: it is karma. It is karma. The City Council's just

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Speaker 2: said that the worst is behind us, and what they're

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Speaker 2: doing is warning people if you're going to be playing

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Speaker 2: sports and parks at the weekend to just be careful

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Speaker 2: because there may be I shouldn't laugh, there may be

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Speaker 2: loose branches.

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Speaker 1: Although there may be. I mean one fell on the

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Speaker 1: GP's head in Wellington.

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Speaker 2: Oh that was awful, awful. And look we've had incidents

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Speaker 2: here in christ Church in Hagley Park with branches in

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Speaker 2: a chap in Arborostyde a couple of years ago. So look,

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Speaker 2: it is a serious thing. But look the winds at

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Speaker 2: east but it's still pretty revolting.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And how's it with you. Liam. I heard it's

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Speaker 1: just started bucketing down in the last couple of hours

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's here in the middle too. It's very, very

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Speaker 3: windy and ready. But you know it's also October and

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Speaker 3: the minute or two, so you know we're a little

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Speaker 3: bit more used to it. I guess at the time

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Speaker 3: of year, it's just the normal way of things. But

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Speaker 3: it's pretty minerable.

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Speaker 1: Do you say, Manna were two so you don't have

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Speaker 1: to say Parmiston.

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Speaker 3: North, Well, I I Palmers North is the big smoke.

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Speaker 3: I live out in the country, a little village called

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Speaker 3: wrong a year, so well I work in the city.

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Speaker 3: I will say I have no I have no shame

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Speaker 3: in saying Parments North at all. If I lived in

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Speaker 3: Parms North, I'm just try be accurate.

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Speaker 1: Oh, gout to stand not fair enough. I actually thought

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Speaker 1: so my bad. I thought you were trying to avoid it. Now, Allie,

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Speaker 1: the strikes I feel like they were a phys So

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Speaker 1: what do you think.

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Speaker 2: Well, either it depends who you ask. I think if

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Speaker 2: you are a parent who had to sort out childcare,

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Speaker 2: or you know you had kids that weren't at school,

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Speaker 2: or you were someone who's been expecting an operation for

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Speaker 2: some time and it was canceled. You'd be pretty angry

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Speaker 2: about that, and they may feel differently to me. I

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Speaker 2: haven't really felt any you know, it hasn't affected me

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Speaker 2: at all. But look, Heather, something that's really annoyed me

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Speaker 2: about this is that I want to know where the

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Speaker 2: robust and decent reporting on this is. I do hear

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Speaker 2: it on your show, and I'm not just blowing smoke.

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Speaker 2: I do hear good interviews and robust, you know, reporting

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Speaker 2: on your show. But we heard Brian Roche say that

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Speaker 2: it takes two parties to negotiate and he can't get

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Speaker 2: the two parties together. Then you had the unions and

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Speaker 2: others say well we can't get Health New Zealand and

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Speaker 2: others back to the table. I don't know who's telling

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Speaker 2: Porky's here, and I would really like to have some

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Speaker 2: I mean, we don't have any TV kurvers at seven

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Speaker 2: at the moment. I want these two parties in a

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Speaker 1: That's your a fair point to me, What do you reckon?

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Speaker 3: Then? Well, I think you know the question was we're there?

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Speaker 3: So that did they fail? To generate anger for the

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Speaker 3: pub like, well, I think that they didctionary anger, but

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Speaker 3: it was self afflicted, right, it was the anger of

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Speaker 3: people who were affected. And I you know people that

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Speaker 3: I was affected. I'm a parent of four some other

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Speaker 3: appointment canceled. And you know that it's a bit of

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Speaker 3: a turning point, a little bit is that people will

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Speaker 3: have sympathy for these professions and for caring professions, but

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Speaker 3: the fastest way to lose that sympathy is to turn

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Speaker 3: the public into pawns and then in their battle against

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Speaker 1: Tell me how many of your kids were home today?

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Speaker 3: Well? Three, three school kids, one's one's one's only three

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Speaker 3: and all three were at home.

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Speaker 1: So and so why didn't you just take a take

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Speaker 1: take a long weekend and turn it into like a

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Speaker 3: Because I'm not a teacher, she owned a business.

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Speaker 1: You've still got to work.

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Speaker 3: Well, I do note that there's actually a teacher only

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Speaker 3: But yeah, like the rest of us in the real world,

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Speaker 3: you don't make money for your family and so you know,

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Speaker 3: we don't have that luxury. We're not paid by the government.

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Speaker 3: They actually have to be productive.

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Speaker 1: Are you cross on a scale of one to ten?

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Speaker 1: How cross are you eight?

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Speaker 3: Probably I'm pretty annoyed. Yeah, I am. You know, I

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Speaker 3: actually think that when you're professional, you know, like you

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Speaker 3: have a calling which is higher than you know, your

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Speaker 3: negotiations with your employer. And two, especially in terms of

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Speaker 3: the effect you have on members of the public who

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Speaker 3: are relying on you to turn up. And that's why

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Speaker 3: professionals probably traditionally didn't strike because actually the unions might

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Speaker 3: say that they're holding out for a future that's going

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Speaker 3: to be better for everyone. That's hypothetical. What's not hypothetical

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Speaker 3: as everyone who was injured today.

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Speaker 2: But what are they supposed to do, Leam, what are

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Speaker 2: they supposed to do? I mean, I actually think that

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Speaker 2: that's a bit rich saying that you know, they should

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Speaker 2: we actually understood what was going on, there might be

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Speaker 2: a bit more sympathy for it. But if striking is

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Speaker 2: the only way that they can get across what the

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Speaker 2: issue are, maybe they used to turn up and not

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Speaker 2: strike because they were actually paid properly and had decent

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Speaker 2: terms and conditions.

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Speaker 3: Well, strike, the striking is only one option of many. Right,

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Speaker 3: there are other things you can do. You can work

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Speaker 3: to rule, like what well you can work. You can

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Speaker 3: work to rule for one thing, right, there are there

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Speaker 3: you can and ultimately, of course, you know, the thing

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Speaker 3: that drives pay is demand for the profession right and

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Speaker 3: for people to be in the profession. You know only what,

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Speaker 3: Only nine percent of the private sector workforces u unonized.

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Speaker 3: So most people actually do manage to negotiate their way around,

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Speaker 3: you know, workplace negotiations and pay without the resorting to

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Speaker 3: a strike. Strikes aren't that common in this country. Look,

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Speaker 3: I understand it's a right, but look, the people who

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Speaker 3: were hurt by the strike weren't the employers. It wasn't

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Speaker 3: the government, it was the public, it.

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Speaker 1: Was Liam it was people like you. All right, we'll

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Speaker 1: take a break, come back to you shortly. You're back

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Speaker 1: of the huddle. Limb here and Ali Jones, Ali, how

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Speaker 1: embarrassing was that for Madam Davidson not turning up and

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Speaker 1: losing her bill?

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Speaker 3: Oh?

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Speaker 2: Totally, I mean how unprofessional? Is it?

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Speaker 3: Very bad?

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Speaker 2: Totally unprofessional? I'm actually completely and utterly over the Greens,

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Speaker 2: which worries me because I have supported them in the past,

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Speaker 2: not in recent years because I think they've turned into

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Speaker 2: a bunch of activists. But you know, at a time

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Speaker 2: when environmental issues and climate change and innovation that is

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Speaker 2: that they're not not up.

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Speaker 3: To the job.

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Speaker 2: We had a guy who was elected to a local

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Speaker 2: the New List Green MP after Benjamin Doyle left, so

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Speaker 2: he's now got two jobs. He's in Wellington and here

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Speaker 2: the Greens have totally lost the plot. They're looking disheveled,

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Speaker 2: they look disorganized, and I think they're disconnected from New Zealanders.

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Speaker 2: It's very very bad, Heather, very bad. Liam.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it is embarrassing if you cannot actually manage

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Speaker 1: your day to get there for the very thing that

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Speaker 1: you are basically living for at the moment, which is

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Speaker 1: the spell.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's not the first time that it's happened in

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Speaker 3: New Zealand. I remember when Gordon Copeland failed to turn

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Speaker 3: that was the very thing that caused him aside his

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Speaker 3: own body. It is, but like it is embarrassing, and

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Speaker 3: what's annoying about it.

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Speaker 1: Really as high as this right. So Gordon turns up

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Speaker 1: and doesn't vote for the thing. David Siema has done

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Speaker 1: the same thing, but because she didn't turn up, the

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And what's really annoying about it is that, like

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Speaker 3: it's probably the one Green Party bill that I'm somewhat

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Speaker 3: interested in in terms of being a right to repair bill,

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Speaker 3: you know, because that is actually talk about the Greens

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Speaker 3: being all flash and no substance or actually, you know,

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Speaker 3: this is actually something they had a lot of people

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Speaker 3: of a lot of interest in. It's an important consumer thing.

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Speaker 3: It's not just Flash's show. And so it's annoying to

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Speaker 3: have lost the opportunity to test that.

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Speaker 2: Liam.

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Speaker 1: Home economics yes or no.

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Speaker 3: Yes, it's an I think it's a necessity. I don't

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Speaker 3: like calling it home economics, which is a very American term,

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Speaker 3: but cooking or whatever. Yes, the fact of the matter.

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Speaker 1: Wait are you telling me you don't want to call

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Speaker 1: it home economics but you want to call it cooking?

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Speaker 3: What? No manual whatever, you call it, whatever it's called.

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Speaker 3: But the expected matters in an ideal world, these skills

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Speaker 3: will be transmitted from you know, parents to children. But

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Speaker 3: that hasn't happened. All right, those skills have been lost.

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Speaker 3: They have to be recited somehow. And I'm a big believer,

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Speaker 3: and not just chucking stuff onto schools. Schools are really

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Speaker 3: there for the things that parents aren't, I shouldn't do.

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Speaker 3: But this is one we're actually here. I'm going to

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Speaker 3: make an exception for it. I'm a favor of it.

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Speaker 1: Oh, Liam and Alie, don't be making encouraging noises. I

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Speaker 2: Yeah, what I am. And look, I'm going to add

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Speaker 2: to that. I think we should bring back sewing. We

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Speaker 2: should also have basic car maintenance, financial management, and civics.

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Speaker 2: I think that should be put in there, and that

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Speaker 2: the curriculum and the teachers in the schools should be

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Speaker 2: resourced so that they can teach it.

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Speaker 1: At least. She learned four languages at schools because she

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Speaker 1: wasn't well.

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Speaker 2: Not everyone can learn stuff, not every lot, because.

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Speaker 1: We're teaching you. She said, it's compulsory because I don't

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Speaker 1: do things like sewing and how to wash yourself at school.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but you can't eat German and Italian?

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Speaker 1: Right, but you know what you become. You become really

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Speaker 1: rich if you can speak all those languages, so you

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Speaker 1: don't need to you're cloud land.

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Speaker 3: We suffer as a society. We actually really suffer from

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Speaker 3: the loss of those skills. It's for whatever reason that

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Speaker 3: we've lost them. We lost the ability that actually make

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Speaker 3: food from scratch, and that's that float that flows into

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Speaker 3: bed nutrition in the homes where people are low incomes

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Speaker 3: don't have the ability to actually cook nutritious meals. You know,

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Speaker 3: they have to buy stuff that's really.

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Speaker 1: Agreed to listen to yourself. We still teach home economics

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Speaker 1: at the moment, We've been teaching it for one hundred

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Speaker 1: and fourteen years, and the country is as fat as.

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Speaker 2: A poor example. No, no, no, look, I'm going to

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Speaker 2: post you a soaldo. Will that get through the post?

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Speaker 1: All right? I don't know because I don't need because

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Speaker 1: I'm trying to be skinny.

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Speaker 2: No, We'll get on those get on those wood goovy

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Speaker 2: things and then I'll post it.

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Speaker 1: Do you think I should? I was thinking about it, Ali.

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Speaker 2: I think you should. I think you should?

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Speaker 3: Absolutely?

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Speaker 1: What do you reckon? Liam? I need to Lim, I

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Speaker 1: had a baby, had refrain.

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Speaker 3: I'm not there. I'm not there, idiotic. I'm not going

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Speaker 3: to comment on a woman's exercise regim or diet.

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Speaker 1: Good from you. You've lued well, guys, I appreciate it.

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