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Speaker 1: Barry Sobers here, Hey, Barry.

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Speaker 2: Good afternoon, Raun. The Palestinian people would be dancing in

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Speaker 2: the rubble, wouldn't they? With Donald Trump moving in, turning

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Speaker 2: it to the river era of the Middle East.

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Speaker 1: His clients said, I mean it's I mean, it's hard

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Speaker 1: to know with Donald Trump exactly what's going on, but

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Speaker 1: it's not a military intervention thing. It's more of a development,

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Speaker 1: a development opportunity sounds of it. He Seymour feelings, the

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Speaker 1: feeling the heat at Whitehanging Well.

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Speaker 2: You'd have to say, wouldn't you, Ryan, If you're a

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Speaker 2: center right politician going to White Tangey, you've got to

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Speaker 2: be something of a masochist. I mean, we saw Stephen

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Speaker 2: Joyce having a dildo thrown at him once, we saw

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Speaker 2: Don Brush having mud slung at him. We saw John

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Speaker 2: Key being roughed up. That spat at well today the

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Speaker 2: Treaty Settlement's Bill. Did David Seymour know good at all?

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Speaker 2: And I think you know, Chris Luxon made the right

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Speaker 2: decision and staying away from the place. If these people

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Speaker 2: can't listen to argument, then what's the point of the

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Speaker 2: politicians being there. I mean, you know, it's great for

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Speaker 2: the opposition politicians because they can turn up and say, look,

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Speaker 2: we'll do everything for you. And indeed, Labor did do

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Speaker 2: a lot for Marty in terms of appeasing their every wish.

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Speaker 2: But now that we've got to suffer the consequences of that.

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Speaker 1: To be fair to everyone, on them and I though

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Speaker 1: not everybody agreed with the action that they took taking

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Speaker 1: away that microphone, did they? So there was a commander

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Speaker 1: who brought it back, you know, So he's obviously disagreement

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Speaker 1: about the behavior that went on.

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Speaker 2: Well, the behavior towards David Seymour was very bad, indeed,

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Speaker 2: but it wasn't just the Maldi behavior towards David Seymour.

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Speaker 2: He certainly did feel the flat from Marty. But the

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Speaker 2: most inflammatory exchange came from the former partner of Disgrace

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Speaker 2: Green's MP Goldriz Garriman, a fellow by the name of

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Speaker 2: Guy Williams.

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Speaker 3: Ever listen touring Poison in One's Ear as a quote

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Speaker 3: from Hamlet about putting mistruths in people's minds, and I

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Speaker 3: believe that's what people have done about my bill.

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Speaker 4: Say that's what you're doing, You're spreading misinformation.

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Speaker 3: Well, can you give him an example?

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Speaker 4: You're trying to say that Moldier causing divisions and racist

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Speaker 4: when it seems like that's what you're doing.

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Speaker 3: No, I've never said that at all. I've said this

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Speaker 3: many times.

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Speaker 2: Don't lie to me.

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Speaker 3: No, I've never said that at all. That's why you're

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Speaker 3: not a real journalist. These guys are. How do you

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Speaker 3: actually get some sense of hope in your life? That's

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Speaker 3: what will improve the relationship for all New Zealand does

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Speaker 3: not just Mardy you.

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Speaker 4: You don't really believe this though, like you're saying, I'm

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Speaker 4: not a real journalist. But even though I can see

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Speaker 4: for this bullshit like you're spinning shit, you're started about you.

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Speaker 3: It's worse than that. You're not even a real comedian.

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Speaker 3: You know when I when I grew up as a

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Speaker 3: kid in this country, comedians were funny, they were clever,

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Speaker 3: they were wissy. What's gone wrong?

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Speaker 2: I think?

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Speaker 4: I'm all right?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I know you're only you're the only person that

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Speaker 3: thinks that.

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Speaker 2: You know what he did the David Murray does have

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Speaker 2: a pretty good sense to humor. He then turned to

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Speaker 2: Simon Wilson from the Herald and said, look, I'll take

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Speaker 2: a question from use thinks to be desperate. So I

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Speaker 2: was quite funny. I mean, you know, I mean he

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Speaker 2: did turn what was a completely offensive situation into something

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Speaker 2: that I thought was quite funny.

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Speaker 1: That is, that is that's tickled That's really tickled me up.

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Speaker 1: I actually went to university with guy Williams. He lived

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Speaker 1: in the room next to me for about a year.

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Speaker 1: He's a nice guy. He actually wanted to be a

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Speaker 1: politician when he was at.

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Speaker 2: He's not going to get there by that sort.

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Speaker 1: Of Hey, Shane Jones, meanwhile, he might be a bit

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Speaker 1: hangover from his party last night. He's saying, we'll take

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Speaker 1: your money off you white tongey.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, what Shane Jones is saying. And as you say,

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Speaker 2: he did come out of his party of four hundred

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Speaker 2: and fifty people last night, so he wouldn't been feeling

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Speaker 2: that well this morning. I wouldn't have thought. But he

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Speaker 2: says there's something seriously awry about the architecture of the

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Speaker 2: whole day and how it shakes down. And I think,

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Speaker 2: you know, most reasonable people, although every year we say

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Speaker 2: that same thing, you know, we see a repeat year

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Speaker 2: after year after year. I think it is a good idea,

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Speaker 2: and I remember, you know, Helen Clark she broke away

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Speaker 2: from the Treaty grounds and took her presence elsewhere on

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Speaker 2: Waitangy Day. And I think, you know, if this sort

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Speaker 2: of behavior continues, then you'll find more politicians following suit.

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Speaker 2: But it was incredible that Shane Jones handed out ten

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Speaker 2: million bucks today to the Waitangi National Trust. Now that's

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Speaker 2: the organization that keeps up the Treaty ground and organizes

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Speaker 2: the White Tangy festivities. So it's a lot of money.

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Speaker 2: And he said that he'll be having a word to

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Speaker 2: his caucus and maybe looking at the decision that he

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Speaker 2: made this morning and announced, maybe overturned. I don't think

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Speaker 2: that's going to happen at all, but never there. It's

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Speaker 2: all Shane sounding off. Obviously had a good night last night.

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Speaker 1: It sounds like he did very Thank you very much

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Speaker 1: for that. Very soper that his News Talks, he'd be

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