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Speaker 1: The Hits Drive with Meddi and PJ. Thanks to chimis

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Speaker 1: Wee House the Real House of Fragrances and on that

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Speaker 1: Hi everyone, Happy Friday and welcome to the podcast. Coming

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Speaker 1: up on the show, Hi, coming up on the show,

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Speaker 1: I do talk about how I caught my father in

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Speaker 1: law with this pants down today and then we kind

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Speaker 1: of got out of the break quite click because there

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Speaker 1: was a funny cliff and we're like, get out. What

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Speaker 1: would you do if you walked into a room, Ran.

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Speaker 2: I would back out immediately. I don't. I think I

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Speaker 2: would try.

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Speaker 1: And you didn't see anything. I thought you were going

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Speaker 1: to say, record it.

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Speaker 2: I was like, igal recoil, No, you doubled down.

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Speaker 1: Well, yeah, you'll hear the story more coming up. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: I he was taking a p outside, which is just

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Speaker 1: very common practice for a farmer, and and then I

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Speaker 1: was driving up and then I think he might have

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Speaker 1: thought initially it was BJ, so he was he was

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Speaker 1: pretty relaxed, and he's sort of just standing there, and

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Speaker 1: then I think he realized and he sort of turned

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Speaker 1: around and then and then it was almost like he

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Speaker 1: sort of had like a straight face. So then I

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Speaker 1: decided to break the ice because I'm always looking for,

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Speaker 1: you know, a little bit of water cooler chat. So

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Speaker 1: I go, I got the buzzard it.

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Speaker 2: I will say, as a guy, there's nothing there's something

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Speaker 2: very awkward about standing at the urinal and then someone

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Speaker 2: that you know comes and stands next to you.

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Speaker 1: Because does that happen at work a lot?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Well there's two urinals, So say I'm standing at one,

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Speaker 2: like our big boss could easily walk in and come

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Speaker 2: and stand next to me and use the other one.

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Speaker 1: And now like I just could I could not not

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Speaker 1: look down like I actually like, like it's in my

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Speaker 1: human nature. I have to like is it really pair?

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Speaker 2: You'd make it really awkward as well?

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Speaker 1: I know, but like there's a guy especially like okay,

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Speaker 1: you're at the nightclubs. You're at the club, and like

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Speaker 1: when people are a bit looser, like do you start

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Speaker 1: just letting your guard down? You're like, it a brows

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Speaker 2: Well, sometimes black people can be real cheddy. Cathy's at

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Speaker 2: the but I over a handshake after it? No, no,

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Speaker 2: but my I tend to just steer straight ahead and

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Speaker 2: then try and just ignore everything that's going around. But

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Speaker 2: you know, sometimes.

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Speaker 1: Sometimes it would come in your preferal someone was with.

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Speaker 2: The sometimes you know, but I but I think my

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Speaker 2: strategy is just look straight ahead, straight straight ahead, and

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Speaker 2: then I'm not tempted, and I'm not.

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Speaker 1: I don't make If someone talks to you, do you

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Speaker 1: look at.

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Speaker 2: Them straight head?

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Speaker 1: Still? God, And there's a whole new world to me.

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Speaker 2: Do you remember did I tell you the story that

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Speaker 2: I was. I was out in an event once and

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Speaker 2: I was at the urine when someone tried to take

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Speaker 2: a phono of me.

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Speaker 1: That's that's really wrong. I was like, dude, have you

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Speaker 1: ever had a fan standing right next to you at

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Speaker 1: the Yeah, Madie McClean you, I'm a massive fan.

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Speaker 2: Oh not that like springs to mind. But maybe I

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: They What I will say is they are awkward and

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Speaker 2: uncomfortable places, which is why often I team to just

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Speaker 2: avoid urinals if I can, and just use the store.

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Speaker 1: The stalls, Yeah, what's a stall?

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Speaker 2: A stall?

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Speaker 1: What's this like a shop stall?

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Speaker 2: Like a toilet? The stalls. You're looking at me like

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Speaker 2: I'm crazy.

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Speaker 1: No, No, I'm not looking like if you go into

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Speaker 2: Into the work tourilets and there's like a number of toilets. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: the cubicle that's called stalls.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, I don't ever know. I was like,

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Speaker 2: And can we go home? Can we go home?

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Speaker 1: Coming up? No funny, nobody is is that really common?

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Speaker 2: Is a stall?

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Speaker 1: Toilet store?

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Speaker 2: It's just one of those things. It's just one of

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Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, you're not crazy. I'm clearly the crazy one.

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Speaker 1: If any one of us is crazy, it's me.

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Speaker 2: It would be like, to me, that is the same

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Speaker 2: as me being like a knife, and you've been like

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Speaker 2: a knife and a knife like everyone knows what a

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Speaker 2: knife is to me, And then it.

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Speaker 1: Makes you question yourself. Is okay I'm going to use that.

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Speaker 1: We come off to the still gun to do it?

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Speaker 1: Still all right? So no funny, no money coming up.

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Speaker 1: We talk about brutally honest parents.

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Speaker 2: And also we want to know about when did you

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Speaker 2: get out of the fine? Like did you manage to

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Speaker 2: avoid a fine? Produce a Sierrah witnessed a very funny

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Speaker 2: situation today.

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Speaker 1: That and more coming up in the podcast. Have a

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Speaker 1: great week in I'm up to read a thesaurus. We'll

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Speaker 1: see you Monday the podcast Interesting nearly nine nearly ten

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Speaker 1: past three with Medium PJ for your Friday. It's just

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Speaker 1: think quite honest with me this week?

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Speaker 2: Give you It was just a little flat, is all

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Speaker 2: I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: If there's any song I can nail, it is that

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Speaker 1: song that we've just played.

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Speaker 2: Do you want to give us a little taste of

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Speaker 2: what you're going I'm.

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Speaker 1: Not gonna know. Now you've made me myself.

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Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, you keep singing, sing loud and proud.

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Speaker 1: Okay, it's fine because it looks like you've been here

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Speaker 1: ited this honesty. Is that right?

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Speaker 2: Maybe I have. Maybe I've taken what happened to me

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Speaker 2: this week to heart, and I'm projecting on to other

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Speaker 2: people because it was, as I've mentioned a couple of

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Speaker 2: times on the show, despite not meant to have mentioned it,

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Speaker 2: it was my husband's birthday.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, you're not doing it again.

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Speaker 2: You have to tell this story, so you.

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Speaker 1: Couldn't you just say it was a significant day.

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Speaker 2: So my husband's birthday. He didn't want me to mention it,

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Speaker 2: but I've mentioned it a couple of times now. It

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Speaker 2: was his birthday this week, and bless them, my parents

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Speaker 2: both gave Ryan a call this week to wish my

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Speaker 2: happy birthday. That's lovely. But they were in different parts,

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Speaker 2: like they were in different areas, because usually what will

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Speaker 2: Dad will usually just sit there silently and then mumble

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Speaker 2: door the talking what your mother said, Yeah, exactly. Honestly,

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Speaker 2: sometimes I've had forty five minute conversations with my mum

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Speaker 2: and the end I'm like, Okay, we'll see you lad

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Speaker 2: a nice a chat and she's like see it, and

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Speaker 2: then I just Dad pipes up in the background bye,

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Speaker 2: Through Anyway, they were in different parts of the country

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Speaker 2: on Ryan's birthday, so Mum called him and then Dad

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Speaker 2: called him separately, and they were having a conversation, and

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Speaker 2: of course they were having a catch up, and we'd

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Speaker 2: been on our trip to Ularu last week, so Dad

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Speaker 2: was asking Ryan all about how the trip went, and

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Speaker 2: then he said to Ryan, you know that husband of yours,

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Speaker 2: he's got many faults, many many faults, he repeated, but

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Speaker 2: he does know how to plan a holiday. And Ryan

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Speaker 2: nice the story to me, and I went, excuse me,

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Speaker 2: what what faults? What faults have I got? And why

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Speaker 2: are they many many? Why are there many many of them?

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Speaker 1: That's exactly what my mom does. And I think like

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Speaker 1: she will always play out my faults to BJ as well.

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Speaker 1: She'll go, oh, BJ, I don't know how you put

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Speaker 1: up with Paddy. She's just so disorganized. But she'll be

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Speaker 1: so nice at the same time that she'll be like, gosh,

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Speaker 1: she's so disorganized, and then she'll be so honest about

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Speaker 1: like should we be like Paddy, I love you so much,

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Speaker 1: but your feet are the worst. They just know how

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Speaker 1: to cut to your corner, really do.

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Speaker 2: And I don't even think they mean to be.

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Speaker 1: Oh no, they love you more than anything, really do.

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Speaker 2: But also I think because of that, their words are

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Speaker 2: so much more brutal than they wouldn't speak from coming

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Speaker 1: Are you sure you said many many floors or it

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Speaker 1: was just bad reception?

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Speaker 2: It was like many He said that husband of yours

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Speaker 2: has many flaws. Then he repeated many many floors.

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Speaker 1: Someone's definitely been stirring on this conversation. Oh wait, hundred

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Speaker 1: the hits. Let's open up the fine lines this afternoon.

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Speaker 1: You're not alone. I'm not alone. You can text through

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Speaker 1: four four eight seven. When were your parents brutally honest?

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Speaker 1: Maybe that didn't mean to be. They actually had the

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Speaker 1: best of intentions, but they ended up cutting real.

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Speaker 2: D Mady and PJ Many and PJ the podcast the

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Speaker 2: Heads and we're taking your calls on the brutal honesty

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Speaker 2: that your parents doled out to you. My dad called

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Speaker 2: my husband this week and they were having a chat,

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Speaker 2: and he said, my dad said to Ryan, now that

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Speaker 2: husband of yours has many flaws, many many floors.

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Speaker 1: Maybe he just meant in your house.

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Speaker 2: No, no, no, he meant my whole vibe. He meant

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Speaker 2: my whole personality.

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Speaker 1: I think you you're not. No one's not flawed, but you are.

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Speaker 1: You're pretty close to perfect.

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Speaker 2: Stop that.

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Speaker 1: But we do want to know when did your parents

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Speaker 1: story you under the bus and they came to the

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Speaker 1: table with brutal honesty? Rachel and Auckland's doing us Hi, Rachel,

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Speaker 1: what did.

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Speaker 4: They say, okay, so, to be fair, I'm not the

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Speaker 4: most tidy person. And my mom was at our house

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Speaker 4: with me and my husband. My husband was doing the dishes,

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Speaker 4: and she was like, I am so sorry that I

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Speaker 4: didn't raise my daughter well enough to be nice and tidy,

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Speaker 4: and you're having to do the dishes right now.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So exactly the kind of thing that my mom

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Speaker 1: says to my husband as well all the time.

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Speaker 2: Do you, Rachel, do you agree with us that that

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Speaker 2: like parents in law feel like their son or daughters

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Speaker 2: in law just a God's gift to earth. I feel

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Speaker 2: like my suffering. I feel like my appearents think Ryan

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Speaker 2: is the perfect, perfect man, and God love him for

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Speaker 2: taking me on, you know, the burden of having me

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Speaker 2: as a husband.

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Speaker 4: My my mom was like, you better get starting better

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Speaker 4: at tidying up things. Althose he's going to divorce.

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Speaker 1: You threats, Oh my god, that's so funny, Rachel. We've

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Speaker 1: got to help. It's about your coming your way. Rebecca's

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Speaker 1: joining us on eight hundred hats Hi, Rebecca. What was

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Speaker 1: the honesty dished out.

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Speaker 1: There is a new season of the herold's true crime

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Speaker 1: podcast Chasing Ghosts. The new season is called The Puppeteer

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Speaker 1: and it is all around a cereal catfish called Natalia Burgess.

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Speaker 1: The journo behind this investigation, David Fisher, is joining us

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Speaker 1: this afternoon. David, thanks so much for coming on the show.

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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, this whole topic is so fascinating to

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Speaker 1: Bettie and I. It's called The Puppeteer. The new season

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Speaker 1: that you've done, Episode three has just come out talk

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Speaker 3: So back then police were investigating a case of someone

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Speaker 2: And at the time, David, this was twenty eleven, so

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Speaker 3: It's extraordinary how she's carried out the deceits that she has.

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Speaker 3: One of the situations that strikes me was interviewing somebody

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Speaker 1: But prison didn't stop her. She got out of prison

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Speaker 3: That's right, and the person whose identity she took the

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Speaker 3: end awesome Kiwi woman living in surfs Paradise by the

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Speaker 2: So there's a lot more to the story obviously, David,

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Speaker 3: It's amazing to me she's been doing this for twenty

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Speaker 1: Well, that was going to be my question, David, why

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Speaker 1: what leads people to do this to others?

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Speaker 3: Well, there's a whole host of reasons. I mean, unlike

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Speaker 3: the individuals. Her motivations are really quite complex. When Devon said,

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Speaker 3: of sad in itself. You know, there's aspects of her

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Speaker 1: Oh wow, David, this sounds like such a good listen.

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Speaker 1: We know there's a lot of true crime fans out there,

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Speaker 3: Thanks very much, guys, Many in PJ the podcast.

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Speaker 7: That's no funny, no money.

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Speaker 1: Stop that laugh.

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Speaker 2: We've been in a head start, I know, but we've

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Speaker 1: One way at last, I agree, came back from holiday

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Speaker 1: it's time, you know, I founding no money. If you

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Speaker 1: don't know how this works, you give us a call, Hurs,

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Speaker 1: tell us a joke, and all you need to do

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Speaker 1: But you know, I know, and I think we we

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Speaker 2: We're going to hold firm because we don't. We don't

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Speaker 1: So please don't take you personally. If we don't laugh

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Speaker 1: it's just we've got to keep fifty dollars vouchers for

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Speaker 1: next week. So Denell is joining us this afternoon, Happy Friday, Danell.

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Speaker 2: Hi, have you got a refer of a joke? You reckon?

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Speaker 1: So? Okay, all right, give it to us Denel knock knock? No,

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Speaker 1: who's there?

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Speaker 4: It's Britney Spears.

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Speaker 2: Britney Spears.

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Speaker 1: Who who knock?

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Speaker 2: Who's there?

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Speaker 1: Who's there?

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Speaker 7: Oop?

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Speaker 5: Did it again?

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Speaker 2: It was the delivery. It was delivery the joke, but

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Speaker 1: Really, she committed to the corn. Now fifty dollars this

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Speaker 1: Okay, Hamilton, Hamilton, Timmy is joining us. Good afternoon, Timmy, Hi, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Hi Timmy, Hi?

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Speaker 1: What's she joke? What do you call a moose with

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Speaker 1: What do you call a most with no name.

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Speaker 1: But you were close, Timmy, Timmy, very good. If unfortunately

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Speaker 1: I have a good one. Okay, that wasn't It was

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Speaker 5: What did the egg say to the boiling water?

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Speaker 5: I don't know if I can get hard. I only

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Speaker 1: We've got a fifty dollars kiss house coming away.

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Speaker 4: Thank you, you.

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Speaker 1: A bit of a situation this morning with you. I'd

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Speaker 2: Now. Famously, baking for BJ has not gone well in

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Speaker 2: Your father in law with his pants around his ankles.

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Speaker 1: He pulled them up by this point, but I was like,

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Speaker 1: purely he really Maddy.

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Speaker 7: And PJ Mady and PJ the podcast.

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Speaker 1: It's so hard to keep up with everything on the internet.

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Speaker 2: Remember we remember we decided. You know you've crossed over

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Speaker 1: And that just feels like us every.

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Speaker 2: And whole This is where I thank god we have

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Speaker 2: can fill us in on everything something.

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Speaker 1: To the show. They can translate quickly, promptly.

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Speaker 7: This used to be me.

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Speaker 2: I used to be this person.

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Speaker 1: Okay, now I'm married. I don't get it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I'm making those noises as they get up

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Speaker 2: off the couch, you.

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Speaker 1: Know, Okay, so give it to us. Sarah was actually going.

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Speaker 9: On, so this is all over TikTok. There's a conspiracy

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Speaker 9: theory saying that if you're an artist and you don't

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Speaker 9: bank Beyonce and your acceptance speech, if you beat her

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Speaker 9: at something like the VMA's or the Grammys or whatever,

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Speaker 9: that she.

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Speaker 2: Will hunt you down all that bad things will things

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Speaker 2: will happen.

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Speaker 1: Because there've been a number of artists over the year

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Speaker 1: so there was like Lizzo.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, a doubt, and then obviously there was infamous Kanye

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Speaker 9: West interrupting Taylor Swift at the two thousand and nine

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Speaker 9: VMAs going I'm.

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Speaker 1: Gonna let you finish. But Beyonce one of the best

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Speaker 1: videos of all time.

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Speaker 9: And people are now saying that that incident, which obviously

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Speaker 9: changed the prajictory of her career, that that incident was

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Speaker 9: him protecting her quote marks from palm.

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Speaker 2: Come on, it's all too much. It's too much.

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Speaker 1: I just assumed to Beyonce, it was just like that

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Speaker 1: icon't that everyone locked up to in the music industry.

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Speaker 1: But they're alluding to the fact that she has a

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Speaker 1: lot of power. And if you don't thank Queen be

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Speaker 1: up on stage, then something might happen to you.

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Speaker 9: Thanks for letting me come in to talk about this,

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Speaker 9: but I do want to thank Beyonce as.

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Speaker 1: Well, just for talking about on behalf of that.

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Speaker 9: I've got to speak on here today and.

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Speaker 2: Can you do that on behalf of our whole show? Yeah,

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Speaker 2: we love you.

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Speaker 1: Hey, just quickly while we are talking entertainment news, because

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Speaker 1: something very very exciting to come out today. We were

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Speaker 1: talking about nobody wants this the other day, the show

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Speaker 1: with Adam Brody and Kristin Bell. This one here, here's

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Speaker 1: your friend. There is not a Jewish bone in her

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Speaker 1: body unless you put one in her show. You're the rabbit.

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Speaker 7: It's hot, right.

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Speaker 1: The big news is Joane has a new man in

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Speaker 1: her wife.

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Speaker 2: Okay, but we're not using names, so let's just call

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Speaker 2: him the prophet eating hot Rabbi.

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Speaker 1: We definitely are a week. I just heard him introduce

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Speaker 1: you as his friend. It is such a good show.

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Speaker 1: It is so easy to binge. And Netflix has just

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Speaker 1: confirmed that is coming Eavery season time.

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Speaker 2: Of course it is. It's such a huge show. It's

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Speaker 2: such a shoe.

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Speaker 1: But it has been confirmed that we're going to get

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Speaker 1: some more Edain Browne, christ Bell. Goodness, it is very

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Speaker 1: exciting getting get into the week kids.

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Speaker 7: Mady and PJ. Mady and PJ the podcast.

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Speaker 2: I remember the other day, I was telling you that

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Speaker 2: two lessons arrived in our mailbox addressed to my husband Ryan,

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Speaker 2: and they were two parking fines that he had received.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and you paid them straight away, which you don't

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Speaker 1: usually do.

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Speaker 2: So unlike me, very very unlike me. But I just

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Speaker 2: thought I'm gonna take I'm gonna take it. I'm gonna

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Speaker 2: deal with this, and I'm gonna take it on the

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Speaker 2: chin because you know, sometimes you attempted to go are

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Speaker 2: you cheeky buggers? I'm gonna I'm gonna right, what are

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Speaker 2: you going to do? Contest this? But I didn't. I

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Speaker 2: just thought, no, we'll get them paid out of side,

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Speaker 2: out of mind, done and dustin. But I do love

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Speaker 2: the idea of people trying their best to actually get

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Speaker 2: out of fines.

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Speaker 1: I would love to know the percentage rate of attempts

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Speaker 1: versus being successful of actually getting out of one.

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Speaker 2: Off the top of my head, I reckon it's like

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Speaker 2: ninety five to five attempts five success.

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Speaker 1: Well, something happened to produce a Sarah today. She witnessed

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Speaker 1: in a cafe. This is crazy, this woman in her

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Speaker 1: way that she attempted to get out of a fine.

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Speaker 1: I don't think this will work.

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Speaker 9: So I was sitting in a cafe and out the

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Speaker 9: glass window I saw this lady pull up and park

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Speaker 9: over a driveway and some yellow lines. She came into

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Speaker 9: the cafe and then a parking warden appeared and he

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Speaker 9: went over to her vehicle, and I was like tossing up, like,

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Speaker 9: should I go over to her? She was at the

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Speaker 9: counter ordering. I was like, should like go tell her?

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Speaker 9: And then she decided to leave. She walked out, didn't

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Speaker 9: order anything, runs over to her car, sees the parking

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Speaker 9: warden starting to write a ticket, so she ran and

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Speaker 9: just hopped in the car. She didn't talk to him,

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Speaker 9: reversed out and he printed the ticket on his little machine,

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Speaker 9: and he walked over to her to her window, like

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Speaker 9: here you go, hand out. She went and just shook

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Speaker 9: her head and drove off. And I was sitting there like, hello, hello,

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Speaker 9: you can't just shake gars.

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Speaker 1: And she's still gonna get that, like you s that

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Speaker 1: in the mad.

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Speaker 2: I love the idea though, that she was sitting in

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Speaker 2: a car going no, no, I'm not accepting this. Thank you,

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Speaker 2: as if that was going to be enough, like of

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Speaker 2: a deterrent. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I want a hundred of the hats. Have you had

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Speaker 1: success because maybe there was a legitimate reason why you

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Speaker 1: could get out of it, or maybe you did get

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Speaker 1: a little creative and you were lit off the fuck.

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Speaker 1: I waite hundred of hats. You can text four for

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Speaker 1: eight seven. We can keep you anonymous. Did you get

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Speaker 1: out of a fine.

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Speaker 2: Or maybe you work in a department where, yes, you

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Speaker 2: have to deal with fines. What are some of the

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Speaker 2: creative ways would shake of the head no, no, no

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Speaker 2: and a drive off? Actually were.

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Speaker 1: Surely not.

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Speaker 7: Maddy and PJ. Madi and PJ the podcasts.

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Speaker 2: We're asking about the creative ways that you actually manage

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Speaker 2: to get off a ticket. Producer Sarah saw a woman

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Speaker 2: in a cafe today just shake your head, no, no, no,

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Speaker 2: and drive off as the parking warden was trying to

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Speaker 2: hand to her a ticket.

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Speaker 1: She's going to get a rude surprise in the mail.

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Speaker 2: And they know my adress. And the thing is, if

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Speaker 2: you're the parking warden, surely you're going you checky back out.

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Speaker 2: I'm going to uplight. It was going to be a

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Speaker 2: twelve dollar fine. Now it's a forty dollar fine.

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Speaker 1: Surely is that? Do you reckon? That's another offense on

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Speaker 1: top of it? Might be it might be disobedience. All right,

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Speaker 1: oh one hundred the hat so you can tax four

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Speaker 1: for eight seven? How did you get out of a fine?

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Speaker 1: And he's joining us, good.

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Speaker 7: A and e.

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Speaker 6: Hello my friends, holore we oh.

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Speaker 1: We're very well.

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Speaker 6: Happy Friday, Yeah, happy Friday to you.

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Speaker 1: So what happened? What was the story?

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Speaker 8: So about a year or.

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Speaker 6: So ago, we had stopped at my local coffee shop

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Speaker 6: to get a coffee, and we're like a little bit

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Speaker 6: over the yellow line of the neighboring business. So I

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Speaker 6: ran and got the coffee. I came back out. My

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Speaker 6: wife was in the castle with the kids. Said the

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Speaker 6: neighbor would come out and take the photos of our car.

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Speaker 6: I was like, oh, random. So about a week later,

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Speaker 6: we got a ticket in the in the post and

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Speaker 6: I was like, this is ridiculous. So I went to

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Speaker 6: the coffee coffee shop and the owner there was like, oh,

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Speaker 6: stuffed them. So she wrote a letter back to the

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Speaker 6: council saying that I'd run in with my choking child

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Speaker 6: and sat there at the time.

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Speaker 8: She helped me.

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Speaker 6: She helped me to get there, stop my child from choking,

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Speaker 6: and then they let me off the fine.

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Speaker 1: I love.

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Speaker 2: I love that she was willing to go that far

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Speaker 2: for someone that she doesn't. Does she know you well,

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Speaker 2: Andy A you are regular?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm a regular.

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Speaker 3: Love I love the coffee there.

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Speaker 2: So now she got you off a fine, you'll be

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Speaker 2: going there forever.

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Speaker 6: It was awesome. I couldn't believe she's got on the

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Speaker 6: offer amazing along black.

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Speaker 1: Someone sicks us. I was going not even either, ten

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Speaker 1: k over the speed limit, got pulled over and it's

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Speaker 1: my first ever time. So I lied, I said I

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Speaker 1: had just saw gart and I was about to put

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Speaker 1: my brains out. She looked at me, rolled her eyes

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Speaker 1: and said, drives slow. And next time I thought, I

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Speaker 1: got out of it. And then a week later fine

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Speaker 1: came in the mail.

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Speaker 2: I love it that one so many time. I love

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Speaker 2: this one as well. Back in England, my dad tried

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Speaker 2: to get out of a red light fine by saying

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Speaker 2: he'd never seen the traffic lights before. The rony was

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Speaker 2: we lived about one hundred meters from a seat of

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Speaker 2: traffic lights.

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Speaker 1: Oh that'll get your peter, oh hundred the hats How

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Speaker 1: did you get out of a fine?

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Speaker 8: Well, the only two parking fines that we were heading

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Speaker 8: my life and quite a long career of driving. The

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Speaker 8: first one I actually hd my own pack and a

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Speaker 8: parking lot just across where a road road from where

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Speaker 8: I worked, and some bagger was in it. So I

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Speaker 8: ended up packing running outside my office and then and

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Speaker 8: there and came out a little bit later on here

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Speaker 8: and I take it on the window and was in

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Speaker 8: the good old days where they were he in written,

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Speaker 8: And I sort of was a little bit peeved off

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Speaker 8: of beout it because I thought, in case I read

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Speaker 8: the thing and it was written the packing warden here

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Speaker 8: and Grisbond had the exact same name as as myself.

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Speaker 8: What are the chances, I mean, to the local council

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Speaker 8: and try to get off that thing? And I said, look,

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Speaker 8: here's this packing ticket. It's been issued by Peter Miller.

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Speaker 3: Peter Miller.

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Speaker 8: Why the hell would I write a ticket to.

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Speaker 1: Let you off?

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Speaker 8: And LA see if you can prove that your your

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Speaker 8: name is Peter Miller, well you can walk free, so

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Speaker 8: to speak. So I got out some idea and gave

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Speaker 8: it to him.

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Speaker 2: I said, a lot of the chan that is amazing, love,

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Speaker 2: well done.

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Speaker 8: Never let me do it again.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. That was definitely a once in a

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Speaker 1: lifetime situation. But hey, thank you so much for your call.

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Speaker 1: We've got to help. Pet's about your coming your way, okay,

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Speaker 1: loverree Bill's edition is coming up. News Okay, okay, no,

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Speaker 1: thank you, just okay.

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Speaker 7: Maddy and PJ. Maddy and PJ the podcast, This the

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Speaker 7: People's Poll, The People's Poll. Everybody comes together.

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Speaker 2: It's the People's Poll.

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Speaker 1: It's time for the People's polls. Don't forget you can

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Speaker 1: vote every day. We put up the poll on our

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Speaker 1: Instagram story, The Hits Drive with Maddy and PJ. Would

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Speaker 1: you like to elaborate on today's poll.

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Speaker 2: I remember when I was younger and I'd see my

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Speaker 2: parents battle with their friends over who was going to

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Speaker 2: pay for drinks or dinner and stuff whenever we went out.

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Speaker 2: And I remember as a kid just not understanding the concept.

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Speaker 2: I was like, why would you if someone else is

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Speaker 2: offering to pay, why would you fight them? Let me pay?

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 2: But then as you get older, obviously you realize that

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Speaker 2: in a turmoil over who's going to pay for these things.

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Speaker 2: And I caught up with a good friend of mine

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Speaker 2: today who's just returned home from overseas. Now. She invited

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Speaker 2: me out for a coffee and we just had a

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Speaker 2: coffee each. So it wasn't a big light lunch, or

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Speaker 2: it wasn't a lot, so the bill was small. And

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Speaker 2: so then we got to the end of the coffee

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Speaker 2: and we went up to the counter and we had

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Speaker 2: this little tussle with our cards as to who was

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Speaker 2: going to pay for the coffee, and I ended up

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Speaker 2: getting in. You know, I got in quick with my cards,

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Speaker 2: so I.

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Speaker 1: Whose card beats verse?

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Speaker 2: But then as I left, I thought, well, is there

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Speaker 2: like a hard and fast rule? You know, she was

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Speaker 2: the one that asked me out for a coffee, so

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Speaker 2: is it her obligation as the invite her to pay

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Speaker 2: or because I'm like, because I'm there as her guest,

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Speaker 2: am I meant her? Am I obliged to pay for

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Speaker 2: the coffee? Or do you just split it right down

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Speaker 2: the middle and avoid all that awkward.

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Speaker 1: My gut instinct as the split, and then it really

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Speaker 1: just comes down to who's feeling the most generous on

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Speaker 1: the day. I think that's what it is.

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Speaker 2: Like.

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't say that if you invite someone to go

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Speaker 1: out for coffee with you, you were obligated to pay

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Speaker 1: for them. No, no, I don't. I don't think that's

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Speaker 1: the case. I would always tend to opt for the split.

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Speaker 1: But if I'm feeling like it's just been paiday, or

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Speaker 1: I'm a little extra boogie, I'll be like any opportunity to.

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Speaker 2: Be a hero, seem I always try and be the hero,

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Speaker 2: and but then sometimes it backfires because there is a

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Speaker 2: friend of mine. Oh I think for the last three times. No, no, no, no,

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Speaker 2: neither of you. No a friend of mine for the

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Speaker 2: last three times I've paid, But There've been long times

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Speaker 2: in between coffees, and I'm like, maybe they have forgotten

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Speaker 2: that I have paid for the last few coffees.

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Speaker 1: But because usually the rule is if you pay once,

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Speaker 1: then they'll take the next next.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, so is my question as I was leaving,

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Speaker 2: was is there a hard and fast rule about who

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Speaker 2: pays the inviter the invitee or do you just split

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Speaker 2: it right down the middle.

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Speaker 1: Okay, what are your thoughts so you can text through

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Speaker 1: your answers now for today's People's Poll to four four

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Speaker 1: eight seven, all weigh in on Instagram page The Hats

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Speaker 1: Drive and Madi and PJ will reveal the results next.

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Speaker 7: Madi and PJ the podcast.

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Speaker 2: That the Deep Pole's Poll, the Big Pol's Poll. Everybody

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Speaker 2: comes together, it's the People's Poll.

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Speaker 1: It's always an awkward topic who pays the bill? Specifically

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Speaker 1: after something Mady went through with a friend today.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I got asked out for a coffee with a

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Speaker 2: friend and then we got to the end of the

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Speaker 2: coffee and it was that whole awkward tussle of who

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Speaker 2: pays for this? She invited me, so does she pay?

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Speaker 2: Do I pay because I'm the invite? Or do you

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Speaker 2: just avoid the awkwardness and split it right down the middle.

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Speaker 1: A lot of texts coming through on four four eight seven.

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Speaker 1: Just because you ask some of a coffee doesn't mean

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Speaker 1: you have to pay. It's like a catch up. I

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Speaker 1: agree with that. I don't think there's any obligation if

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Speaker 1: you ask that you have to shout. I like this one.

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Speaker 1: If it's a date, the invited pays, friends, you pay

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Speaker 1: your own. Yeah, it's quite an interesting take.

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Speaker 2: Someone said, I say split. There is always that one

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Speaker 2: friend in any group who is the main organizer, and

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Speaker 2: they would end up paying the majority of the time

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Speaker 2: if you went by the who invites pays rule, which

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Speaker 2: makes perfect sense.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there's sort of the general consensus on the text.

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Speaker 1: I don't think because you organize it, you should pay. They

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Speaker 1: might be useless arranging things, so I'm usually the one

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Speaker 1: who arranges things, but I work around other people. Look

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Speaker 1: at the overall percentage, I'm really fascinated.

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Speaker 2: What if people say seventy six percent of people said

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Speaker 2: just splitter. Avoid the awkwardness. Just pay for your own coffee.

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Speaker 2: Twenty one percent, though, said yeah, the person who invited

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Speaker 2: you should pay for the coffee, and only three percent

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Speaker 2: said the invited inviting?

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Speaker 1: Are the invitinges off the hook? Yeah this sweet as.

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Speaker 3: Well.

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Speaker 1: There you go, The People's poll for another day. If

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Speaker 1: you've got any suggestions for what we should tackle next week,

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Speaker 1: you can text them through to four four eight seven

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Speaker 1: many MP, the podcast

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Speaker 2: That