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Speaker 1: Kieren macinnulty is in once again for the absent Ginny Anderson,

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Speaker 1: and Mark Mitchell is with us as well. Gentlemen, good

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Speaker 1: morning to you mate. Now, Kieren without I don't want

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Speaker 1: to get into this. You know, it's not your job

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Speaker 1: to defeat. Can you explain Ginny and her actions sometimes?

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Speaker 1: Can you sort of what's going on there? Do you reckon?

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Speaker 2: Well?

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Speaker 3: I assume you're referring to the recent mistake that she

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Speaker 3: made by sharing that Facebook post or Instagram post. Yeah, yeah, no,

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Speaker 3: I can't explain that, and neither can she. She said

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Speaker 3: it was a mistake, she said she regrets it, and

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Speaker 3: she's apologized, which is the appropriate thing to do.

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Speaker 1: That is true. I just wonder do you have, like

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Speaker 1: I don't know, classes, courses for people going there's if

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Speaker 1: there's a red flag, a presence of a red flag,

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Speaker 1: the thought of a red flag. You know, this might

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Speaker 1: get you any of those sort of advice floating around

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Speaker 1: the Labor Caucus at any point in time.

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Speaker 3: Look, it is appropriate that she apologized, and it's apprope

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Speaker 3: bet that she regrets doing it. I'm not going to

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Speaker 3: shy away from that. But I don't think we should

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Speaker 3: make this out to be worthy of those sorts of courses.

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Speaker 3: I mean, at the end of the day, it was

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Speaker 3: a sheared post. If she'd said this to the king,

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Speaker 3: or said this in person about the King, then that

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Speaker 3: would be very serious. But sharing a post and then

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Speaker 3: reading it doesn't warrant no sorts of things.

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Speaker 1: Mate, Are you on social media?

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Speaker 2: Mark?

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Speaker 4: Yes, I am, but I'm not a big One of

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Speaker 4: the great frustrations for our social media team is that

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Speaker 4: I'm not as president as they think I should be.

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Speaker 2: Maybe that's a good thing.

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Speaker 4: Who Yeah, I just think look with Jenny, I just

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Speaker 4: think people judge it for themselves. I mean, you know,

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Speaker 4: focused on the things that matter, right, the King's pants.

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Speaker 4: So it's all a bit ridiculous.

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Speaker 1: There it is. Do you you sound funny? You're not

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Speaker 1: in the country. Have you got a cold?

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Speaker 4: Or I have got a little bit of a what

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Speaker 4: he called I'm not onto okay?

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Speaker 1: Are you on the pseudo epha dream?

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Speaker 2: No, I'm not today. It doesn't need them.

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Speaker 3: He does thirty push ups a day, mikeel.

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Speaker 1: Well, that is true, Kieren, And have you done yet?

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Speaker 1: Market's ten past six of you cracks through the thirty yet.

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Speaker 2: I haven't done them yet.

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Speaker 4: But at six o'clock in the morning over here, So

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Speaker 4: I'll do them after we've had our chat.

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Speaker 1: Okay, can you film them put them on social media?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: I thought about doing that actually now, Kieran, I am

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Speaker 4: way of the hotel.

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Speaker 1: It okay, I'm I'm excited almost to see you seemingly

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Speaker 1: backing the government on this building consent stuff. Broadly speaking,

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Speaker 1: it makes sense, doesn't it.

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Speaker 3: It does, And it was something that I've been personally

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Speaker 3: speaking with the Master Plumbers about for some time and

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Speaker 3: have held some sympathy for their position there. I mean,

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Speaker 3: you've got guys that many of their members aren't just plumbers,

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Speaker 3: but are also guessed for it as as well. So

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Speaker 3: for one of their trade they're able to self certify

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Speaker 3: and for another that not. And we mustn't forget that

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Speaker 3: the leaky building saga that we went through wasn't the

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Speaker 3: fault of plumbers. But we also need to and reasonably

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Speaker 3: express potential concerns to make sure we get the balance

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Speaker 3: right here. You know, we've got world class trades people

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Speaker 3: as long as they've been around, and we can't let

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Speaker 3: that integrity be undermined. And we also can't put homeowners

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Speaker 3: vicky building. So there is a balance that I think

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Speaker 3: we can strike, and it's reasonable to point it out

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Speaker 3: that way.

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Speaker 1: Right, would you see yourself navigating safely through this mark?

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Speaker 2: I agree. I just think that there is a balance here.

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Speaker 4: But the one thing that we do have to do

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Speaker 4: And I look, and I agree with Crean, is that

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Speaker 4: we have world class trades people that can be trusted,

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Speaker 4: and right now some of them are. They can self certify,

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Speaker 4: So you know, Chris Pink is working through that in

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Speaker 4: a careful way.

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Speaker 1: How do I does it not put the onus on

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Speaker 1: I go to Juj Gardener, I can feel confident in

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Speaker 1: Bob seems like a nice guy, but Bob turns out

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Speaker 1: to be a croc? How do I tell?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean that's what That's exactly what Karen's sort

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Speaker 4: of talking about is how do we still have all

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Speaker 4: the ability for consumers to be able to sort of

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Speaker 4: someone that's reputable in a proper trades person that will

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Speaker 2: But look that I'm not in that detail.

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Speaker 4: Obviously it's Chris Pink's line of work, but I think

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Speaker 4: that does have to be addressed.

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Speaker 3: Bring indemnity insurance is crucial. Ultimately, if people meet certain

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Speaker 3: at the moment, the government's put out a consultation document

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Speaker 3: and I imagine people will engage with that. We certainly will,

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Speaker 3: and I've got a lot of time for Chris Penky'

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Speaker 3: is a reasonable guy and I think you will work

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Speaker 3: this is a good way to go about it when

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Speaker 3: you work together.

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Speaker 1: Mark, when you called the Mongrel mob idiots yesterday, what

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Speaker 1: do you call them? Were you calling them idiots from

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Speaker 2: I was, but I called them idiots from Sydney.

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Speaker 4: So it was purely though the question the journalist asked

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Speaker 4: that they're exhibiting around you know, seek Hiland, barking lot

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Speaker 4: so which I stand by.

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Speaker 1: And having said that though, because the Prime Minister was

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Speaker 2: Quite the opposite. For the last twelve months, they have

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Speaker 2: been controlled, they've been protect now I'm talking about around

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I know, but it was just it was a

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Speaker 2: Is they had plenty of police resources there the roads.

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Speaker 4: Yes, the police warned the day before that there's going

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Speaker 4: was no illegal behavior. Yes, there's a bit of disorder around,

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Speaker 4: doble stuff and things like that. The police will follow

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Speaker 2: But the police really did handle it very well yesterday.

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Speaker 1: Do you reckon that's true, Karen, I do.

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Speaker 3: I think the police did an exceptional job with the

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Speaker 3: do skids, etc. These board races and spectators. It's a

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Speaker 3: real worry, particularly when crowds outnumber the police that are

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Speaker 3: given time in a town like Masterden. The solution to

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Speaker 3: that is ensuring that communication is strong and intelligent, sharing

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Speaker 2: But those local.

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Speaker 3: Police that dealt with that recently did an exceptional job.

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Speaker 4: They're running big operations against these guys, and I think

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Speaker 4: We're most of the awards handed out to police officers

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Speaker 4: for saving lives.

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Speaker 2: We don't often talk about that. It's not always visible

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Speaker 2: Very proud of our police service.

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Speaker 4: They do an outstanding job, and they are working hard

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Speaker 4: running operations and really are starting to hit on top

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Speaker 1: They're doing good stuff. Karen. I watch parlor, I watch

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Speaker 1: question time, and I see you stand up a lot

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Speaker 1: and them to say point of order, mister speaker, point

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Speaker 1: of order. All that sort of stuff is brownly ruining

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Speaker 3: No, I don't think so. I have a really good

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Speaker 3: working relationship with the Speaker. In fact, I think if

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Speaker 3: you look back to previous parliaments, people in my role,

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Speaker 3: for more points of order. I've got to the point

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Speaker 3: parliamentary privilege, of which I'm learning a lot, and I

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Speaker 3: like to think that we've got a good working relationship.

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Speaker 1: Okay, what about you, Mark? I mean, you spend a

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Speaker 1: lot of time in Sydney and not in the House,

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Speaker 1: and every time I see Luxe and How, I say,

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Speaker 1: why aren't you opening the house up? You know, whether

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Speaker 1: whether anyone supports your government or not, you've got a

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Speaker 1: lot of work on and you can only pass law

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Speaker 1: if the house is open, and the house never seems

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Speaker 1: to be open.

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Speaker 2: Well, what does a spell of the rumor that I

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Speaker 2: spent a lot of time in Sydney. I don't that's

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Speaker 2: what I did. I think.

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Speaker 4: I'm over here to support and mate that they had

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Speaker 4: to show last night at the Sydney oper House. But look,

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Speaker 4: Karen's you're right. He does his job as the you know,

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Speaker 4: opposition leader of the House. He has to raise points

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Speaker 4: I think Jurry does an outstanding job as a speaker.

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Speaker 4: He's got grevitas and you know, and it's a boysterous

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Speaker 4: in terms of how many how successful he's on with

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Speaker 4: his points of order, and he reminds me how unsuccessfully

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Speaker 4: with my points of order.

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Speaker 2: Good. That's true, that's true.

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Speaker 3: But look, it's not to say that we're not happy

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Speaker 3: with the behavior of certain members and ministers. But the

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Speaker 3: question was about the speaker, and I think he's doing

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Speaker 3: a good job.

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Speaker 1: Okay, good stuf. Nice to see you both appreciate it

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Speaker 1: very much. Curre and macinaughty travel well. Make appreciate it.

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