1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:03,080 Speaker 1: Togever Do to see Alan the coroner's in question to 2 00:00:03,120 --> 00:00:06,680 Speaker 1: the terror attack at Auckland's Newland supermarket started today. Now, 3 00:00:06,680 --> 00:00:08,920 Speaker 1: if you remember all the way back in twenty twenty one, 4 00:00:08,960 --> 00:00:10,840 Speaker 1: six people were injured in the knife attack by the 5 00:00:10,880 --> 00:00:14,800 Speaker 1: Islamic State supporter Ahmed Sumsidin. He was shot shortly after 6 00:00:14,840 --> 00:00:17,680 Speaker 1: by undercover police who were survailing him. Now, Jordan Done 7 00:00:17,720 --> 00:00:20,360 Speaker 1: is our reporter in court today. Hey Jordan, Hey, Ether 8 00:00:20,760 --> 00:00:22,400 Speaker 1: were you in court when the video was played? 9 00:00:23,680 --> 00:00:27,120 Speaker 2: Yeah? I was. There was some rather graphic footage that 10 00:00:27,280 --> 00:00:30,480 Speaker 2: showed the attack itself. In the countdown. Now, I'm not 11 00:00:30,520 --> 00:00:32,159 Speaker 2: going to go into too much detail, but we do 12 00:00:32,200 --> 00:00:35,000 Speaker 2: see him shopping for you know, most of this fifteen 13 00:00:35,040 --> 00:00:37,480 Speaker 2: minute footage, and it's only in really those last few 14 00:00:37,479 --> 00:00:39,720 Speaker 2: minutes where we see him. He takes a red glove 15 00:00:39,720 --> 00:00:42,000 Speaker 2: out of his pocket, he puts it on his right hand. 16 00:00:42,040 --> 00:00:44,800 Speaker 2: He then takes a knife off of one of the displays. 17 00:00:45,640 --> 00:00:48,440 Speaker 2: He then unpackages it and begins attacking people. And it 18 00:00:48,479 --> 00:00:50,960 Speaker 2: takes you know, some people some time to react there, 19 00:00:50,960 --> 00:00:53,400 Speaker 2: obviously in quite some shock. And then we see some 20 00:00:53,520 --> 00:00:56,600 Speaker 2: of the other shoppers trying to intervene push Cholley's against him, 21 00:00:56,640 --> 00:00:58,920 Speaker 2: throw cands of tuna and then even get some metal 22 00:00:58,960 --> 00:01:01,720 Speaker 2: bollards to try and at bay and that's until the 23 00:01:01,720 --> 00:01:05,160 Speaker 2: police come. There's kind of a confrontation allowed confrontation between 24 00:01:05,200 --> 00:01:08,759 Speaker 2: the two where we kind of see him moving forward 25 00:01:08,760 --> 00:01:10,960 Speaker 2: and back, and that's when he's shot and falls to 26 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:11,480 Speaker 2: the ground. 27 00:01:13,160 --> 00:01:17,360 Speaker 1: Police explained. Have police explained rather how this happened while 28 00:01:17,400 --> 00:01:19,080 Speaker 1: he was supposed to be under surveillance. 29 00:01:20,440 --> 00:01:22,479 Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, that's kind of going to be a big 30 00:01:22,520 --> 00:01:24,560 Speaker 2: part of the next two weeks and even the other 31 00:01:24,600 --> 00:01:27,200 Speaker 2: two phases that are going to be later this year 32 00:01:27,240 --> 00:01:29,520 Speaker 2: and even at the start of next year, because there 33 00:01:29,520 --> 00:01:34,039 Speaker 2: were several reports and several investigations into what happened. And 34 00:01:34,040 --> 00:01:36,679 Speaker 2: then that includes on the surveilling offices. Now they knew 35 00:01:37,120 --> 00:01:39,920 Speaker 2: everything that Subsiden was doing up until the point that 36 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:42,120 Speaker 2: he went into the countdown, and they were doing regular 37 00:01:42,360 --> 00:01:46,200 Speaker 2: surveillance reports on this as well. Now, the reason they 38 00:01:46,200 --> 00:01:50,120 Speaker 2: didn't exactly go into the countdown is because they didn't 39 00:01:50,120 --> 00:01:52,720 Speaker 2: really deem it to be a suspicious act of Subsiden. 40 00:01:52,800 --> 00:01:55,120 Speaker 2: He was a regular shopper there. They knew that, they 41 00:01:55,160 --> 00:01:57,800 Speaker 2: were aware of all the exits were at Countdown, and 42 00:01:57,840 --> 00:02:00,200 Speaker 2: they didn't think it was a target rich environment, which 43 00:02:00,280 --> 00:02:03,320 Speaker 2: essentially means that they knew he was capable of carrying 44 00:02:03,360 --> 00:02:06,280 Speaker 2: out an attack. They thought if you were to do that, 45 00:02:06,280 --> 00:02:09,480 Speaker 2: that it would be in a more densely populated area. 46 00:02:09,600 --> 00:02:11,960 Speaker 2: They also know that something was paranoid, and there was 47 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:15,120 Speaker 2: the potential that he was suspicious about being surveiled, and 48 00:02:15,160 --> 00:02:16,959 Speaker 2: so they didn't really want to tap him off by 49 00:02:18,760 --> 00:02:23,280 Speaker 2: I suppose, over exerting that surveillance. Now the coroner is 50 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:26,079 Speaker 2: accepting all of these findings, he's not going to challenge them, 51 00:02:26,440 --> 00:02:29,200 Speaker 2: but he does note that that doesn't mean there isn't 52 00:02:29,280 --> 00:02:32,040 Speaker 2: room for lessons to be learnt. There are still things 53 00:02:32,040 --> 00:02:35,720 Speaker 2: that could have changed, that potentially could have happened, and 54 00:02:35,760 --> 00:02:38,440 Speaker 2: that is what this entire hearing and in quest is about. 55 00:02:38,800 --> 00:02:40,480 Speaker 1: Jordan's good to talk to you, Thanks for filling us 56 00:02:40,480 --> 00:02:42,640 Speaker 1: and Jordan Dunn Newstalk said Bes Reporter. 57 00:02:43,440 --> 00:02:46,600 Speaker 2: For more from Heather Duplassy Allen Drive, listen live to 58 00:02:46,720 --> 00:02:49,760 Speaker 2: News Talk said Be from four pm weekdays, or follow 59 00:02:49,800 --> 00:02:51,560 Speaker 2: the podcast on iHeartRadio.