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Speaker 2: Hello, goat New Seidlands. Welcome to Matt and Tyler Full

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Speaker 2: Show Podcasts number one, nine three four Thursday, the twentieth

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Speaker 2: of August and the Year of Our Lord twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 2: Very very fun show, Yeah, very very fun show. Their

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Speaker 2: chat we have with Eric Murray, a double Gold medalist,

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Speaker 2: about the Enhanced Games which is going to allow performance

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Speaker 2: enhancing drugs next year twenty twenty six in Las Vegas.

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Speaker 2: He had a very surprising take on the whole thing

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Speaker 2: that I did not expect.

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Speaker 3: Hell of a take from him. Yeah, I thought, too.

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Speaker 2: Fantastic and is a great talker and he's thought about it,

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Speaker 2: and yeah, I just thought that was a really, really

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Speaker 2: interesting interview. So keep listening for that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and two examples of horrific sexism from Tyler that

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Speaker 2: will get pointed out by the listeners.

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Speaker 1: The big stories, the leak issues, the big trends, and

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Speaker 1: everything in between. Matt Heath and Taylor Adams afternoons news.

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Speaker 3: Talk said, be very good afternoons.

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Speaker 4: You're welcome into Thursday show six past one, So good

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Speaker 4: of your company is always good? A man depressing news

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Speaker 4: that are Tomuru super depressing. Den Heath Dean Heath casted

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Speaker 4: squares no more.

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Speaker 2: I'm a big fan of den Heath custom squares. Many

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Speaker 2: a time when I've been driving from christ to Dunedin,

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Speaker 2: I've stopped off and got a whole trade to take

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Speaker 2: down to give to family and frenzy. And before you

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Speaker 2: get there you'll look consumed about seven yourself. So Moorish

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Speaker 2: just delicious. The pastry on the bottom just the best

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Speaker 2: custed squares in the entire world. I mean they've gone

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Speaker 2: out of business. How can that happen? You know they

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Speaker 2: are a business out of Tomorrow and you hear about

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Speaker 2: them all the time. So I'm not sure what's happened.

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Speaker 2: I just found out that the name comes from Dennis

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Speaker 2: Night and his wife Hither. Yeah, so it was den Hither.

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Speaker 2: I was excited because they had the same I thought

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Speaker 2: it was something related to me because my last name's Heath.

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Speaker 4: Not I mean it sounds high brow, doesn't it, But

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Speaker 4: like you when when Andrew our producer said that was

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Speaker 4: their name.

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Speaker 3: I thought, yeah, that makes sense, but no.

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Speaker 2: More so that they are not an ownership of it now.

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Speaker 2: But they were selling there, if I'm not mistaken, they

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Speaker 2: were selling this stuff in Costco stores around the world.

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Speaker 4: They did a deal with Costco, yeah, and tried to

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Speaker 4: spend quite heavily into the international market. And it was

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Speaker 4: perhaps after Dennis Dennison hither sold the company, but for

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Speaker 4: a lot of Kiwis out there. I mean when both

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Speaker 4: of us saw that news last night, absolute devastation and

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Speaker 4: then it was everywhere online.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it was such an icon.

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Speaker 4: When you go to Timers or somewhere in the South Island,

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Speaker 4: it was always to go get a weed.

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Speaker 3: Den Heath Custard Square.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that is tragedy, absolutely tragedy. I wonder if there's

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Speaker 2: any where they can be saved, or someone will buy them,

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Speaker 2: or something will happen. I'll watch the space, but it

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Speaker 2: would be terrible for our culture as a country if

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Speaker 2: we lose Den Heath Custard Squiz.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, someone please save them. Right on to the show

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Speaker 4: after three o'clock moving should you do it yourself or

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Speaker 4: get someone? And so I'm about to move house and

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Speaker 4: I've always been in the mindset that I should do

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Speaker 4: people to help me. But the argument is getting pretty

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Speaker 4: noisy that I should be hiring a moving company to

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Speaker 4: get it done.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: We're going to talk about this yesterday, but we ran

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Speaker 2: out of time, but the text machine was blowing up

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Speaker 2: with people's opinions on it. My immediate reaction was, Tyler

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Speaker 2: owen ke is how you're going to move house? But

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Speaker 2: apparently not people do. Yeah, as I said to you yesterday,

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Speaker 2: Tyler World moving and start.

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Speaker 3: Mike Hoskin loves those guys. I think he's got shares

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Speaker 2: Actually, I think Carrie Woodhams used them about ten times

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Speaker 4: Right, Okay, well if they give me a good deal.

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Speaker 4: But that's going to be a good discussion after three.

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Speaker 4: I met the boss at an event recently. Is a

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Speaker 3: He's off the tools these days.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean he's not doing the moving tile. That's

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Speaker 4: the enhanced game. So they've signed five athletes to compete

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Speaker 4: in an event in Las Vegas next mate. It's been

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Speaker 4: talked about for a long time. It's all go for

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Speaker 4: those who compete. They can win US half a million

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Speaker 4: while using science to monitor athletes is on there, which, to.

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Speaker 2: Put it more succinctly, you're allowed to take pads, You're

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Speaker 2: allowed to take performance and nancing drugs, juice up so

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Speaker 2: that the idea is that you know, you see the

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Speaker 2: the Olympic Games, arguably but sometimes not, is just what

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Speaker 2: you can get there by training hard and eating well.

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Speaker 2: But how far could you go if you injecting yourself

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Speaker 2: with peds? See? But you know there's an eight hundred

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Speaker 2: twenty six. But what do you think about it? Init

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Speaker 4: Yeah again, that is after two o'clock. But right now,

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Speaker 4: let's have a chat about road rage. So story in

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Speaker 4: the Herald today a family on the Auckland Auckland's north shore.

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Speaker 4: They've been left terrified after being sent a letter that

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Speaker 4: So the letter was in response to an alleged incident

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Speaker 4: It was not delivered by a postal service. The student's

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Speaker 4: father has now gone to the police and has outraged saying,

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Speaker 4: I quote, it's a very very scary thought that someone

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Speaker 4: the Auckland Harbor Bridge. If you're going to drive like

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Speaker 2: Wow, that is threatening, So as you It's included the

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Speaker 2: think you can just do that with a Google search anymore,

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Speaker 4: I think there's a lot of third parties that can

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Speaker 4: a massive breach of privacy if this individual has access

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Speaker 4: to those records. But quite psychotic behavior. That someone does

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a step above bloody honking your horn or

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Speaker 2: waving your finger around, isn't it. So you've been angry

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Speaker 2: that long, so you've held on to the anger the

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Speaker 3: Like that exactly.

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Speaker 2: So that's holding on to anger for a very long time.

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Speaker 2: And the woman that was driving said she can't even

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Speaker 2: the biggest incident of all time either praying praying there

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Speaker 2: was no you know, he wasn't run off the road

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Speaker 3: Can't remember the honking.

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Speaker 2: That's interesting I my prejudice came to a four because

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Speaker 2: when I first read the letter, I thought it sounded

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Speaker 3: Had those overtones, though it doesn't it sound like.

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Speaker 2: I could read the letter again.

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Speaker 4: So it's see is ree seven thirty am, Friday, the

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Speaker 3: That's very cyclus ree ree.

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Speaker 2: Well you should okay, don't be scared if they put

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Speaker 3: I worry about those people. Yeah, yeah, that is some

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Speaker 4: Then it goes on to say, if you're going to

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Speaker 2: Wow, that is threatening. But did they use a hole

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, some pretty weak censoring as well, but they

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Speaker 2: So if you experienced anything like this, are you experiencing

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Speaker 2: that makes her a better driver? She now knows there

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Speaker 2: makes sense. More people should do it. This idiot could

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Speaker 2: have killed him. Wow, Okay, so this spot. I didn't

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Speaker 2: expect the text her to say good work. Psychotic letters ender.

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Speaker 2: So this person thinks more people should be taking the

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Speaker 4: to call. Love to hear your thoughts on this. I

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Speaker 4: forgot about this, actually, but I was in a road

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Speaker 4: rage incident earlier this week, so I'll tell you a

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Speaker 4: little bit about that. I was the victim, but how

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Speaker 4: but I'm going to tell that story next. But love

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Speaker 4: to hear from you. Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty

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Speaker 4: is the number to call. It is fourteen past one.

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Speaker 2: We live in Wellington and our son Lawa is from

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Speaker 2: Timoru and introduced us to Dean Heath. I'm a god.

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Speaker 2: They are delicious. We've had them for birthdays, Christmas or

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Speaker 3: Absolutely right. Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the

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Speaker 3: number to call. Quarter past one.

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Speaker 1: The big stories, the big issues, the big trends and

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Speaker 1: everything in between. Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons used

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Speaker 3: News Talk ZB.

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Speaker 4: We are talking about road rage incidents on the back

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Speaker 2: And there's a surprising amount of support out there for

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Speaker 3: So then she got on the horn. There was a

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Speaker 4: Clearly she was late to drop off the kid because

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Speaker 3: What have I turned into?

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Speaker 3: That was such pity behavior from her, but also from me.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, and what a usage of your time?

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Speaker 2: to just you know, you're slowing down to fifteen k?

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Speaker 2: And how close was she behind you?

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Speaker 2: Well she was in a rush obviously. Yeah, right, she

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Speaker 2: was going to an emergency. Bad person, So am I

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Speaker 4: Oh eight one hundred and eighty ten eighty is an

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Speaker 9: I totally agree with you. Men no emergency or not,

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Speaker 3: In the time, I was very happy with myself, Charline.

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Speaker 9: I am supporting him. Yes, the same thing has happened

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Speaker 9: I did the first time I did, you know? And

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Speaker 9: you know, I'm in something just a little bit small

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Speaker 9: So I was putting my horn, you know, don't rear

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Speaker 9: end me for goodness sakes. And so this time I

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Speaker 9: I don't know what happened, no, but I know where

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Speaker 2: Would you consider writing a letter? And I know you

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Speaker 9: Well, to be honest, I as she confronted them. I

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Speaker 9: it to a lot of people. And then when I said, so,

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Speaker 2: All right, don't slame on your brakes to try and

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Speaker 9: I didn't slam on my breaks. I did what Chila didn't.

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Speaker 3: The situation though, doesn't it.

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Speaker 2: What about this kind of situation, Charlene, where you're about

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Speaker 2: and I'm pulling out in good time, you know, as

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Speaker 2: It takes all my willpower not to just stay there

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Speaker 9: I'll probably do that, but you know what, these days,

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Speaker 9: you can't pull out quickly because you don't know who's

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Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, Well, I can.

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Speaker 9: Give your own safety. Here's about that boost and I'm

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Speaker 5: You know.

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Speaker 9: It's just I don't like towgates. It's not on. It's

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Speaker 4: Good on, Good luck out there, Charlotte, yeap, and thanks

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Speaker 4: for the defense. O E one hundred eighty teen eighty

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Speaker 4: is the number to call. Plenty of texts coming through

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Speaker 2: If I get tailgated, you will get my toe ball

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Speaker 2: where you don't want it. Back off. It's rude to tailgates.

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Speaker 2: Is this text?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Spot on beck The oh eight hundred eighteen eighty is

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Speaker 2: Where you support that you support running the toe ball

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Speaker 2: So you I haven't learned anything, have I?

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Speaker 1: Putting the tough questions to the newspeakers. The mic asking.

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Speaker 10: Breakfast Willis is the Minister for Economic growth. We all

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Speaker 10: agree red type yes, clean it up, but elder don't

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Speaker 10: want to bar it. Little don't want to bar of it.

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Speaker 10: Ask yourself, why.

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Speaker 9: Christopher, we don't want to agree. We've got an opposition opposed.

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Speaker 2: You forget that there is you're in charge, get on

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Speaker 2: with the red tape.

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Speaker 11: I owe it to everyone to make sure we've taken

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Speaker 12: We're on the side of a shopper.

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Speaker 2: We're all on the side of the shopper.

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Speaker 3: But I just want more action. This is when your

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Speaker 5: Is wrong.

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Speaker 2: Slash and burn the paper.

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Speaker 10: You've got to admit Costco and not rolling out a

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Speaker 10: series of nationwide supermarkets. Back tomorrow at six am the

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Speaker 3: Twenty six past one.

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Speaker 4: We're talking about road rage incidents. A terrifying incident for

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Speaker 4: an alleged situation on the Auckland Harbor Bridge. But can

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Speaker 2: This is what the note receiver has to do is

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Speaker 2: I don't think the police will do anything based on

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Speaker 2: what you read out. Make a officiating information request to

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Speaker 2: Medical Vehicle Registration Department, ask who accessed your details. It

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Speaker 2: is always recorded. Then make a complaint to the Privacy

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Speaker 2: Commission and ask for a financial solution. Well tend to

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Speaker 2: know you could do that, Tony, Welcome to Shay.

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Speaker 13: A gentleman comment about what you're talking about before. I mean,

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Speaker 13: I regularly have people tailgating me, and if possible, I

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Speaker 13: because you know, you don't know who you're dealing with,

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Speaker 13: and there's a lot of just unbalanced people driving around

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Speaker 13: the streets, and you know, if you keep slowing down

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Speaker 13: contribute to road range. But that's not actually what I'm

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Speaker 13: wrong about. A lot of people don't realize. But you

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Speaker 13: can actually opt out of the motor vehicle registration details.

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Speaker 13: You just go to the LTSA and opt out with

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Speaker 13: your registration plate. And what that means is that the

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Speaker 13: only people who can access your information is law enforcement

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Speaker 13: like the police. I don't believe the auphaned counselor can

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Speaker 13: as well. It doesn't cost you anything, and that's a

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Speaker 2: Yeah, wouldn't you do that?

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Speaker 4: Well, just on there, because I did that, I opted

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Speaker 4: out of that situation thinking because I do I say this, Yeah,

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Speaker 4: I say it, nobody likes them because I thought that

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Speaker 4: I thought Wilson's parking couldn't get me if I did that,

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Speaker 4: because I really hate Wilson's parking and they did me dirty,

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Speaker 4: these buggers can never get me. An At can't get me,

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Speaker 4: et cetera, et cetera. They can, they can. Yeah, at

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Speaker 4: Wilson's there's about there's a list. You can look it up.

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Speaker 4: The list is about three hundred third party organizations that

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Wilson's off their list.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I know.

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Speaker 2: I can't stand where the cops and you know in

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Speaker 2: the council need to have to be on that list,

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Speaker 2: but third parties get out.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm with you.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 13: Well, well like supermarkets can access you know, for people

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Speaker 13: If you're a license moon, a vehicle dealer, you've got

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Speaker 13: scess to it. So that's what I'm saying that as

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Speaker 13: far as tailgating goes, Yeah, I mean I get it

441
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Speaker 13: done me all the time. I do a lot of

442
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Speaker 13: driving and trucks, buses, that sort of thing, and I

443
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Speaker 13: just moved to the side and let them go because

444
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Speaker 13: at the end of the day.

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Speaker 2: You don't know if that person could have been up

446
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Speaker 2: all night on met you know, they might be hallcinating.

447
00:19:21,653 --> 00:19:23,173
Speaker 2: You don't know anything about them, but you got to

448
00:19:23,293 --> 00:19:25,093
Speaker 2: You've got to be very careful. I think some people,

449
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Speaker 2: some people small people like Tyler forget no offense mate

450
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Speaker 2: forgets that. You know, there's some fights that you don't

451
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Speaker 2: want to have. Some people you just don't want to

452
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Speaker 2: be annoy.

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Speaker 4: Like that Russell Crowe movie Unhinged. You know, it didn't

454
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Speaker 4: work out there. I got a road rage incident and

455
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Speaker 4: then a whole lot of murders. It wasn't a good

456
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Speaker 4: situation at all.

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Speaker 13: I'll tell you something interesting though, just just to sum up.

458
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Speaker 13: You know, we do years ago a defensive driving to us,

459
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Speaker 13: and I think about it as a few If you

460
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Speaker 13: have made an accident, you actually feel quite good about

461
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Speaker 13: your driving for the rest of the day because you know,

462
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Speaker 13: it's quite interesting. I'm not suggesting that, you know, you

463
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Speaker 13: forget about people that do crazy things, but if you

464
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Speaker 13: can avoid an accident, your own psyche improves for the

465
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Speaker 13: rest of the day. Believe it, if you look at

466
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Speaker 13: it that way.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you got to think about I mean, how

468
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Speaker 2: much effort you want to put into getting revenge on

469
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Speaker 2: someone that you don't know. You know, that's the thing.

470
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Speaker 2: So someone's wrong you Okay, well they're wrong. You then

471
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Speaker 2: just going on with your life. You know that that's

472
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Speaker 2: their problem. Yeah, taking on anger over it is in

473
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Speaker 2: a way letting them win. Another series you can watch

474
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Speaker 2: on road Rage Beef. If you seen that TV, that

475
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Speaker 2: Netflix showe Beef. I haven't no, it's good. Yeah, it's good. Yes,

476
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Speaker 2: it's good.

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Speaker 4: Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number of

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Speaker 4: coll heaps of ticks coming through as well.

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Speaker 3: We'll get to a few of those.

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Speaker 2: I had a cop follow me almost daily for six months,

481
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Speaker 2: so this is someone that can access that information whether

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Speaker 2: you opt out or not. He used to come to

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Speaker 2: my house and hand deliver any infringement noss is at

484
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Speaker 2: five am cheapest. My kids called me one day, say

485
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Speaker 2: there was a cop wandering around the back guard looking

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Speaker 2: in the windows downstairs.

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Speaker 4: I hope you dobbed them man done. That doesn't sound

488
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Speaker 4: right right. We've got the headlines.

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Speaker 2: Coming up with sound like New Zealand's finest.

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Speaker 4: Oh, we've got the headlines coming up with me sneaks

491
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Speaker 4: then taking more of your calls full lines. If you

492
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Speaker 4: can't get through, keep trying.

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Speaker 8: Us talks, there'd be headlines.

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Speaker 4: News talks. There'd be just standing by for those headlines

495
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Speaker 4: with Max. But in the meantime we will get back

496
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Speaker 4: to this discussion about road rage incidents. So many texts

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Speaker 4: coming through on nine two ninety two. Hey, lads, don't

498
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Speaker 4: pick a fight over nothing. Yeah, I mean that's a

499
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Speaker 4: good point. So I need to look at the final

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Speaker 4: word in.

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Speaker 2: That What does that mean? I'll look it up and

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Speaker 2: then I'll read that text out again. Giving someone else

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Speaker 2: the ability to make you angry is allowing them to

504
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Speaker 2: take up too much real estate in your mind. If

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Speaker 2: you truly want to live, you need to forgive in

506
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Speaker 2: order to live. They are not worth your time.

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Speaker 3: Deep and a lot of truth.

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Speaker 2: Man, Oh yeah, that's right. You know, if you get angry,

509
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Speaker 2: you're letting that person take you over. Yeah, you know,

510
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Speaker 2: you wouldn't let them kidnap your body, as the stoics

511
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Speaker 2: would say, But why do we let people that we

512
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Speaker 2: don't respect kidnap our minds?

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Speaker 4: That smugness I felt was very fleeting. Yeah, And honestly,

514
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Speaker 4: I once she turned off into the crash, I felt

515
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Speaker 4: really terrible about myself.

516
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Speaker 2: You're a bad person.

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Speaker 6: What was I doing?

518
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Speaker 3: What was I doing?

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Speaker 8: All right?

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Speaker 4: Headlines are coming up with mex will be back very shortly,

521
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Speaker 4: mechs take it away.

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Speaker 14: Headlines with Blue Bubble taxis. It's no trouble with a

523
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Speaker 14: blue bubble. New Zealand's third biggest supermarket operator would like

524
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Speaker 14: to see the duopoly broken up. Night and Day general

525
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Speaker 14: manager Matthew Lane says the problem is not with the

526
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Speaker 14: number of available sites. He says more competition would be

527
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Speaker 14: created if the two big players were made to split

528
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Speaker 14: up their brands. Relief is on the way for businesses

529
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Speaker 14: sending shipments to the United States. New Zealand Post is

530
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Speaker 14: recommencing package services for business account holders after initially suspending

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Speaker 14: all of its operations to the US. US President Donald

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Speaker 14: Trump has spoken with Minnesota Governor Tim Waltz after a

533
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Speaker 14: fatal shooting during a Catholic school's morning mass in the

534
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Speaker 14: city of Minneapolis. Two children are dad and seventeen injured.

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Speaker 14: It's been suggested the debate around gun laws will now

536
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Speaker 14: spark back up again and back in New Zealand. The

537
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Speaker 14: weather's causing problems as winter has its final say Strong

538
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Speaker 14: winds are ramping up across the country with several yellow

539
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Speaker 14: watches in place, and Gregor Paul on the challenge of

540
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Speaker 14: monetizing the all blacks in our small market. You can

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Speaker 14: read his column at ends at Harald's Premium.

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Speaker 4: Back to Matt and Tayler, thank you very much, Max,

543
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Speaker 4: and we are chatting about road rage. Some good texts

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Speaker 4: coming through A nine two nine to two. This one

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Speaker 4: s heres the road rage letter. I've got something similar

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Speaker 4: with someone who left a one star Google review. I

547
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Speaker 4: couldn't find them on my CCTV from the previous two weeks. Anyway,

548
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Speaker 4: turns out they post a lot on Google Maps as

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Speaker 4: a local guide and also share those images to their

550
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Speaker 4: Facebook page, which is public. To make it more interesting,

551
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Speaker 4: they've publicly shared their walk routes each day on Strava,

552
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Speaker 4: which seems to show their home address. Holy crap, what

553
00:24:07,453 --> 00:24:11,693
Speaker 4: stalker details I could find without specialist requests assigned for

554
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Speaker 4: everyone to set their Facebook profile to private. Don't share

555
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Speaker 4: revealing photos on Google Maps, and don't be a dick.

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Speaker 3: Yeah that is terrifying.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, good good advice. What worries me is if the

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Speaker 2: person who wrote that letter to this woman is listening

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Speaker 2: to your show. They will know where the person lives

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Speaker 2: and could escalate the problem even more. I can't see

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Speaker 2: how that would be a thing. So they already know

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Speaker 2: where the person lives. I think the fact that the

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Speaker 2: huge amount of focus has been put on their letter

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Speaker 2: would be if anything, would make them think twice about

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Speaker 2: doing anything at all, because the investigations onto who they are.

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Speaker 4: Ramping up ladies and general ramp up. I imagine they'll

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Speaker 4: be terrified right now.

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Speaker 2: Matthew makes a great point. Best road rage movie ever

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Speaker 2: is called Jewel, A fuel tanker chasing a driver. That

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Speaker 2: is Steven Spielberg's first movie, Juel, and it is such

571
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Speaker 2: a great movie. Just making a note of that, if

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Speaker 2: he did Jaws or anything did Juel. It was made

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Speaker 2: for TV movie in the States, and it's terrifying.

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Speaker 4: How yeah, that's my weekend sorted. Oh one hundred and

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Speaker 4: eighty ten eighty is the number to call?

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Speaker 8: Paul.

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Speaker 3: What's your take on this?

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Speaker 15: Hi?

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Speaker 16: How are you guys?

580
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Speaker 3: We're very well, very good.

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Speaker 17: I run a couple of I run three small delivery

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Speaker 17: trucks in Auckland, and yesterday I get a phone call

583
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Speaker 17: from a They're all sign written. I get a phone

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Speaker 17: call from a guy yesterday, absolutely torrent of abuse down

585
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Speaker 17: the phone at me. If this, if that, I'm going

586
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Speaker 17: to come and smack your head and I'm going to

587
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Speaker 17: break every bone in your body. Blah blah blah. Your

588
00:25:39,413 --> 00:25:44,973
Speaker 17: driver cut me off, et cetera, et cetera. Noise, Yeah,

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Speaker 17: full noise.

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Speaker 2: What do you do about those?

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Speaker 6: Well?

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Speaker 17: I hang up on him, and an hour lady turns

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Speaker 17: up at work. Wow, turns up at the office at

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Speaker 17: my little yard, and it's absolutely going off.

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Speaker 18: At me.

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Speaker 17: Him and his partner.

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Speaker 2: Well, how man is partner? So the two people managed

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Speaker 2: to stay out in raged that long. That's impressive him

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Speaker 2: and it.

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Speaker 17: Was him and his him and as him and his partner,

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Speaker 17: which I filmed, and I also recorded the conversation where

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Speaker 17: he said it was going to break every bone in

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Speaker 17: my body.

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Speaker 2: And this and that, I mean, you went over the driver.

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Speaker 17: No, I wasn't the driver. No, that particular driver's been

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Speaker 17: driving with me for twenty plus years now, a very

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Speaker 17: good driver, young lady. And we've got front and rear cameras, okay,

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Speaker 17: And yeah, he was actually in the fault. He came

609
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Speaker 17: right up behind our truck. Our truck was in the

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Speaker 17: slow lane and he's he's sitting there tooting and.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so what an absolute muppet and an absolute muppet

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Speaker 2: of a partner. So you're in the wrong, and you

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Speaker 2: hold onto your anger to the point where you ring

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Speaker 2: up and then you go and threaten as some of

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00:27:01,653 --> 00:27:03,693
Speaker 2: that wasn't even driving at a business. So you take

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Speaker 2: that time out of your life and get recorded through

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Speaker 2: an your business. I mean the rage that you're holding

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Speaker 2: on too in that situation.

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Speaker 17: Not case this guy, This guy was so wound up

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Speaker 17: when he when he turned up at work, I ended

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Speaker 17: up locking myself in the in the builder. I shut

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Speaker 17: the front door and locked it and he was it

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Speaker 17: is just still screaming at me through the glass.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, what what what's the rest of that

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Speaker 2: guy's life like and that guy's partner's life like? If that,

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Speaker 2: if there, if there's that much of a balling kid.

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Speaker 3: Hole, take his license off him.

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Speaker 4: I mean, there needs to be some sort of psychometric

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Speaker 4: Did you take it any further.

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Speaker 17: Paul, Yes, yes, yes, yes I did. I went up

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Speaker 17: to the police and gave him the recording of the

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Speaker 17: conversation and the video of him screaming through the window

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Speaker 17: at me, and and.

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Speaker 2: Do you in the video of the incident on the

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Speaker 2: road as well.

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Speaker 8: Yep, ye, well.

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Speaker 17: There was no incident. He came right behind our track

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Speaker 17: and and and we were in the slow lane and

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Speaker 17: and and I driver didn't pull over to let them through.

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Speaker 17: She just held her speed as you do. And yeah,

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Speaker 17: this this guy was was really.

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Speaker 8: It sounds scary.

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Speaker 2: It sounds mesthy to me. Do you think it was

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Speaker 2: involved at all? It just sounds so insane that.

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Speaker 17: Oh I should hear the message that I've got recorded,

646
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Speaker 17: just the language and the deep anger at someone he

647
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Speaker 17: didn't know what he was going to do do to me.

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Speaker 4: Wow, unreal. I mean, there's a few teachs coming through here.

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Speaker 4: Tell Paul to put it on the on Facebook or

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Speaker 4: the internet. Did you think about doing that?

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Speaker 17: No, I'm not going to do that. I've given it

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Speaker 17: to the police and they're going to deal with this.

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Speaker 17: And yeah, but it was pretty scary. I was really,

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Speaker 17: really scared. I've been doing this twenty plus years now.

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Speaker 17: I never had anything like that before. You know, you

656
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Speaker 17: have a couple of people ring up eyesn't the cap

657
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Speaker 17: blah blah blah, But that this guy was next level.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, what a nutter further that I'm an ex

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Speaker 2: cop that attended some pretty horrific motor vehicle smashes over

660
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Speaker 2: my years, and the job just drive as if other

661
00:29:01,493 --> 00:29:05,333
Speaker 2: people near you are nutjobs, because some of them are nutjobs.

662
00:29:05,933 --> 00:29:08,053
Speaker 2: By the way, we need another one hundred and fifty cops,

663
00:29:08,053 --> 00:29:10,773
Speaker 2: half of whom should be assigned specifically to traffic enforcement

664
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Speaker 2: because we have a small number of police officers per population,

665
00:29:13,293 --> 00:29:16,973
Speaker 2: resulting and dealing with driving offending and police having to

666
00:29:17,013 --> 00:29:20,773
Speaker 2: deal with injury and non injury crashes. Driver's licensed testing

667
00:29:20,813 --> 00:29:23,653
Speaker 2: system is pathetic compared to Australia and the UK and

668
00:29:23,733 --> 00:29:28,533
Speaker 2: the Europe. Yeah, but I mean, you know, that's my

669
00:29:28,573 --> 00:29:31,813
Speaker 2: whole thing with the with the getting anger at someone.

670
00:29:31,933 --> 00:29:33,493
Speaker 2: You know, I had a friend I've told the story

671
00:29:33,533 --> 00:29:36,093
Speaker 2: in the show before who got into a rage incident

672
00:29:37,293 --> 00:29:40,213
Speaker 2: in Los Angeles and got a glock pulled on it.

673
00:29:41,253 --> 00:29:44,133
Speaker 2: Since then, he's never waved the bird at anyone. I

674
00:29:44,133 --> 00:29:46,973
Speaker 2: mean not even you know, there's not a lot of

675
00:29:46,973 --> 00:29:48,733
Speaker 2: guns in New Zealand, but there are some guns in

676
00:29:48,773 --> 00:29:51,413
Speaker 2: New Zealand. And if someone's being crazy on the road

677
00:29:51,653 --> 00:29:55,573
Speaker 2: and they're outrageously angry, then you don't know what they're

678
00:29:55,573 --> 00:29:57,493
Speaker 2: capable of it doesn't need to be a gun. I

679
00:29:58,213 --> 00:29:59,693
Speaker 2: ran around the back of the Head's not great fun.

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Speaker 3: One hundred percent, eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is

681
00:30:01,933 --> 00:30:04,533
Speaker 3: the number to call. It's eighteen to two. Back very shortly.

682
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Speaker 1: Come a chat with the lads on eighty Matt Heathan

683
00:30:09,733 --> 00:30:12,213
Speaker 1: Taylor Adams afternoons used talk.

684
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Speaker 8: Said be four un to two.

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Speaker 3: We're talking about road rage incidents.

686
00:30:15,613 --> 00:30:17,653
Speaker 2: This is a great text, good philosophy for life. Don't

687
00:30:17,693 --> 00:30:20,293
Speaker 2: let your feelings become your attitude. Not worth it at all.

688
00:30:20,493 --> 00:30:23,373
Speaker 2: Just get on with it. Yeah, and I mean one

689
00:30:23,413 --> 00:30:26,333
Speaker 2: of the greatest quotes of all times for meditations Marcus Ralius.

690
00:30:26,533 --> 00:30:29,693
Speaker 2: How much more harmful are the consequences of anger than

691
00:30:29,733 --> 00:30:33,413
Speaker 2: the circumstances that aroused them? In us? So with Paul

692
00:30:33,453 --> 00:30:36,253
Speaker 2: before right, that guy who wasn't actually.

693
00:30:36,013 --> 00:30:36,613
Speaker 3: Cut off.

694
00:30:37,933 --> 00:30:40,853
Speaker 2: But thought he was and then made an angry phone call,

695
00:30:40,893 --> 00:30:42,413
Speaker 2: then took time out of his day to go round

696
00:30:42,493 --> 00:30:45,253
Speaker 2: to the yard to abuse and threaten, and that went

697
00:30:45,293 --> 00:30:49,213
Speaker 2: to the police. How much we're more harmful of the consequences,

698
00:30:49,253 --> 00:30:51,613
Speaker 2: just even in his time and anger and emotions and

699
00:30:51,733 --> 00:30:54,613
Speaker 2: energy wasted, and all his yelling and screaming over what

700
00:30:54,693 --> 00:30:55,653
Speaker 2: caused the incident.

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00:30:55,733 --> 00:30:59,293
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a half day plus of absolute nonsense.

702
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Speaker 2: Linda welcomed the show.

703
00:31:01,493 --> 00:31:02,893
Speaker 12: Good day, how's it going good?

704
00:31:03,013 --> 00:31:03,453
Speaker 3: Thank you.

705
00:31:04,413 --> 00:31:06,613
Speaker 11: So I'm in Wellington now. I just was listening on

706
00:31:06,653 --> 00:31:08,773
Speaker 11: the ways back to work and I thought I just

707
00:31:09,093 --> 00:31:11,853
Speaker 11: ring and let you know. I'm in the motor vehicle industry,

708
00:31:12,773 --> 00:31:16,573
Speaker 11: have been for many years. They've tightened up a whole

709
00:31:16,613 --> 00:31:20,533
Speaker 11: lot on the privacy angle of getting information from MZTA.

710
00:31:21,533 --> 00:31:24,093
Speaker 11: And as a dealer, we can only get the information

711
00:31:24,293 --> 00:31:26,573
Speaker 11: if we're going to be trading a vehicle, if it's

712
00:31:26,613 --> 00:31:28,013
Speaker 11: been recalled for some reason.

713
00:31:28,293 --> 00:31:29,093
Speaker 8: There's a whole lot of.

714
00:31:29,013 --> 00:31:31,773
Speaker 11: Different things that you have to tick a certain box

715
00:31:31,853 --> 00:31:35,493
Speaker 11: to be able to get the information. So there is

716
00:31:35,533 --> 00:31:38,773
Speaker 11: a lot that that person can do to find out

717
00:31:38,893 --> 00:31:42,573
Speaker 11: actually who authorized or.

718
00:31:42,773 --> 00:31:44,413
Speaker 3: Got the information, to find out.

719
00:31:44,333 --> 00:31:48,573
Speaker 11: Where that person lived. It's actually very dangerous because there's all.

720
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Speaker 12: Sorts of weirdos out there.

721
00:31:49,773 --> 00:31:51,613
Speaker 11: I mean I get people all the time giving the

722
00:31:51,773 --> 00:31:54,373
Speaker 11: ringing out. People I know who will say to me,

723
00:31:54,453 --> 00:31:56,413
Speaker 11: how I've got to read out this glicis thunder on

724
00:31:57,213 --> 00:31:57,573
Speaker 11: the road.

725
00:31:57,693 --> 00:31:59,373
Speaker 12: Can you tell me you know who he is?

726
00:32:00,253 --> 00:32:02,013
Speaker 11: And I just have to tell them I can't do

727
00:32:02,133 --> 00:32:05,773
Speaker 11: that because we'd lose our license if we do that.

728
00:32:05,893 --> 00:32:09,613
Speaker 11: So there's a lot of ramifications for breaking the rules.

729
00:32:10,373 --> 00:32:10,853
Speaker 5: One of your.

730
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Speaker 11: Previous callers mentioned about the opt out situation, that is

731
00:32:14,573 --> 00:32:17,493
Speaker 11: the best thing. If everyone did that, we'd have no problems.

732
00:32:18,613 --> 00:32:20,973
Speaker 11: And then what you need to have to get the information?

733
00:32:21,053 --> 00:32:25,493
Speaker 11: So you actually need someone's first name, last name, data

734
00:32:25,533 --> 00:32:28,773
Speaker 11: birth or their first name, last name and the driver's

735
00:32:28,813 --> 00:32:29,413
Speaker 11: license number.

736
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Speaker 2: People how to people like Wilson's Parking and supermarkets get

737
00:32:34,853 --> 00:32:37,133
Speaker 2: those details off license plates then, because they won't have

738
00:32:37,213 --> 00:32:39,133
Speaker 2: your name and such, no.

739
00:32:39,333 --> 00:32:39,893
Speaker 12: They just put them.

740
00:32:39,933 --> 00:32:41,253
Speaker 11: We'll see what you do is you put your plate

741
00:32:41,373 --> 00:32:44,093
Speaker 11: number in YEP and it comes up and then you

742
00:32:44,413 --> 00:32:46,733
Speaker 11: you're asking for You have got different things that you

743
00:32:46,813 --> 00:32:50,013
Speaker 11: can do. You can check registrations, you can take licenses,

744
00:32:50,613 --> 00:32:51,693
Speaker 11: there's a whole range of things.

745
00:32:51,733 --> 00:32:53,533
Speaker 5: You can sell a particular vehicle, but you need.

746
00:32:53,533 --> 00:32:56,333
Speaker 11: To actually get all the information so you can actually

747
00:32:56,333 --> 00:32:59,093
Speaker 11: make the transaction. Often when you go to do that,

748
00:32:59,293 --> 00:33:01,373
Speaker 11: if someone's opted out, we can't even get it. We

749
00:33:01,453 --> 00:33:03,613
Speaker 11: actually have to input the driver's license number of the

750
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Speaker 11: person that we're doing the transaction for to get their information.

751
00:33:07,693 --> 00:33:09,893
Speaker 2: And then at least a digital record that you have

752
00:33:10,373 --> 00:33:11,133
Speaker 2: got that information.

753
00:33:11,693 --> 00:33:14,213
Speaker 11: And if I if I, for example, did something untoward

754
00:33:14,333 --> 00:33:17,573
Speaker 11: and got someone's information, and you know, like what's happened

755
00:33:17,613 --> 00:33:21,413
Speaker 11: with your person that's made a complaint, there's a record

756
00:33:21,653 --> 00:33:25,133
Speaker 11: of who, when, what time, and what reason they used

757
00:33:25,173 --> 00:33:28,373
Speaker 11: for giving that information out, So using that information.

758
00:33:28,613 --> 00:33:29,453
Speaker 3: So just going back to that.

759
00:33:29,573 --> 00:33:31,813
Speaker 4: So I'm clear that I opted out some time ago,

760
00:33:32,053 --> 00:33:34,493
Speaker 4: but Wilson still managed to track me down and find

761
00:33:34,533 --> 00:33:35,413
Speaker 4: out where I lived.

762
00:33:35,893 --> 00:33:37,053
Speaker 3: So how would there's.

763
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Speaker 11: Certain there's certain there's certain people who will have ability

764
00:33:41,093 --> 00:33:46,693
Speaker 11: to do that. Obviously the police, you know, certain different industries,

765
00:33:47,573 --> 00:33:50,733
Speaker 11: but they still you know, if that person that's done

766
00:33:50,773 --> 00:33:53,813
Speaker 11: that to get that person's information isn't a motor vehicle dealer,

767
00:33:54,293 --> 00:33:56,973
Speaker 11: he will be one of a selected few that is

768
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Speaker 11: allowed to access the database, so they can still be

769
00:34:00,293 --> 00:34:01,053
Speaker 11: held accountable.

770
00:34:01,453 --> 00:34:03,333
Speaker 3: So not looking good for that. Let us ender which

771
00:34:03,373 --> 00:34:03,933
Speaker 3: is good news.

772
00:34:04,093 --> 00:34:07,013
Speaker 2: Yeah, hey guys, good topic. It's all very well and

773
00:34:07,093 --> 00:34:09,373
Speaker 2: good never getting angry. But to what extent do you

774
00:34:09,493 --> 00:34:11,533
Speaker 2: let yourself get walked all over? Where's your line in

775
00:34:11,573 --> 00:34:13,293
Speaker 2: the sand? I mean, I would lose a fight for

776
00:34:13,373 --> 00:34:15,732
Speaker 2: my principles if I had to. Yeah, but that's the thing.

777
00:34:15,853 --> 00:34:18,453
Speaker 2: So the idea is not to get angry and lose control.

778
00:34:18,653 --> 00:34:21,933
Speaker 2: If someone has wronged you, then you calmly and methodically

779
00:34:22,573 --> 00:34:24,893
Speaker 2: go about what you need to get the best result

780
00:34:24,973 --> 00:34:27,893
Speaker 2: for you. So when you the argument on that, you

781
00:34:27,973 --> 00:34:31,213
Speaker 2: know you know you shouldn't give circumstances the power to

782
00:34:31,293 --> 00:34:34,213
Speaker 2: arouse your anger. Is you may be wrong, right, and

783
00:34:34,293 --> 00:34:36,813
Speaker 2: you think the right thing to do is to get

784
00:34:36,893 --> 00:34:40,013
Speaker 2: this person that's done it censured in some way or

785
00:34:40,053 --> 00:34:42,853
Speaker 2: punished in some way. Then you methodically go through the

786
00:34:42,973 --> 00:34:45,693
Speaker 2: process of doing that in a calm fashion. Take a

787
00:34:45,773 --> 00:34:50,773
Speaker 2: few breaths, because generally speaking, if you go after someone angrily,

788
00:34:51,453 --> 00:34:56,573
Speaker 2: then you also become a problem. You also potentially make

789
00:34:56,653 --> 00:34:59,613
Speaker 2: things hard for yourself, potentially legally, but all different kinds

790
00:34:59,613 --> 00:35:01,652
Speaker 2: of things like this guy leaving the letter right. Yes,

791
00:35:02,213 --> 00:35:05,213
Speaker 2: so if you do it in a sensible way, you know,

792
00:35:05,373 --> 00:35:09,493
Speaker 2: as they say, anger's enemy is time the time, think

793
00:35:09,573 --> 00:35:11,933
Speaker 2: it through, Think what's the best result for you, and

794
00:35:12,093 --> 00:35:14,693
Speaker 2: do it dut ley yourself get walked over, But just

795
00:35:14,773 --> 00:35:17,692
Speaker 2: don't make it worse for you by doing these things

796
00:35:17,893 --> 00:35:21,013
Speaker 2: in a state of wild uncontrolled rage.

797
00:35:21,173 --> 00:35:24,053
Speaker 4: Nicely said, breathing certainly helps. Oh, eight hundred eighty ten

798
00:35:24,133 --> 00:35:27,253
Speaker 4: eighty is the number to call. It is ten to two,

799
00:35:27,333 --> 00:35:29,013
Speaker 4: but it will take a few more calls very shortly.

800
00:35:30,173 --> 00:35:33,732
Speaker 1: Matt Heath, Taylor Adams taking your calls on eight hundred

801
00:35:33,853 --> 00:35:34,573
Speaker 1: eighty ten eighty.

802
00:35:34,693 --> 00:35:39,533
Speaker 8: It's Matt Heath and Taylor Adams. Afternoons News TALKSB News

803
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Speaker 8: Talk ZB.

804
00:35:40,213 --> 00:35:42,853
Speaker 4: We're talking about road rage incidents and Auckland family had

805
00:35:42,853 --> 00:35:45,493
Speaker 4: a terrifying threatening letter put in their mailbox after.

806
00:35:45,373 --> 00:35:47,973
Speaker 3: An alleged road rage incident. So keen to hear from you.

807
00:35:48,293 --> 00:35:50,893
Speaker 2: I've been derailed by this text. How did cavemen cut

808
00:35:50,933 --> 00:35:54,053
Speaker 2: their toenails? It's off top it, but I was just

809
00:35:54,133 --> 00:35:57,093
Speaker 2: thinking about that. I think cave men didn't cut their toenails.

810
00:35:57,173 --> 00:35:59,933
Speaker 2: They just walked around with them, like you know, wild

811
00:35:59,973 --> 00:36:01,813
Speaker 2: animals don't have to cut their toenails. To your point,

812
00:36:01,853 --> 00:36:03,493
Speaker 2: you were in bare feet, so I think just you

813
00:36:03,573 --> 00:36:06,013
Speaker 2: didn't have to worry about the I think your toenails

814
00:36:06,013 --> 00:36:09,692
Speaker 2: would get you know, rubbed off nesh naturally. And it's

815
00:36:09,733 --> 00:36:12,573
Speaker 2: off topic though, yeah, but I need to get this

816
00:36:12,813 --> 00:36:14,853
Speaker 2: off my chest. I was driving on State High One

817
00:36:14,893 --> 00:36:16,813
Speaker 2: near Auckland when I attempted to merge into the left

818
00:36:16,893 --> 00:36:20,613
Speaker 2: lane a people move a van accelerated to block my move,

819
00:36:20,893 --> 00:36:23,173
Speaker 2: forcing me to slow down. The driver beaped at me,

820
00:36:23,293 --> 00:36:25,493
Speaker 2: and I responded in kind, I should not have done this.

821
00:36:25,853 --> 00:36:27,933
Speaker 2: Gestures were exchanged between us, I should not have done

822
00:36:27,973 --> 00:36:30,733
Speaker 2: this either. The other driver then pulled over briefly, appearing

823
00:36:30,773 --> 00:36:32,773
Speaker 2: to encourage me to do the same, possibly an attempt

824
00:36:32,773 --> 00:36:35,573
Speaker 2: to confront me. I chose not to engage and continue driving.

825
00:36:35,653 --> 00:36:37,933
Speaker 2: He also swore at me as I passed. From that

826
00:36:38,253 --> 00:36:41,613
Speaker 2: point on, he began tailgating me aggressively. While tailgating, the

827
00:36:41,693 --> 00:36:43,813
Speaker 2: driver held the steering wheel in such a way that

828
00:36:43,973 --> 00:36:47,333
Speaker 2: both middle fingers were raised well, clearly flicking me the bird.

829
00:36:47,613 --> 00:36:49,573
Speaker 2: I also saw him wind down the window and appear

830
00:36:49,613 --> 00:36:52,093
Speaker 2: to speak or gesture towards drivers in the right lane,

831
00:36:52,133 --> 00:36:55,253
Speaker 2: possibly drawing attention to me or the situation. I thought

832
00:36:55,293 --> 00:36:57,973
Speaker 2: he might calm down, but that didn't happen. The driver

833
00:36:58,053 --> 00:37:00,813
Speaker 2: then pulled out his phone began filming in me and

834
00:37:01,093 --> 00:37:04,333
Speaker 2: my vehicle and his phone while still in motion. He

835
00:37:04,693 --> 00:37:08,493
Speaker 2: was extremely angry. Definitely next time won't be beeping or

836
00:37:08,533 --> 00:37:11,813
Speaker 2: gesturing so as not to escalate anything, but very scary

837
00:37:11,853 --> 00:37:13,893
Speaker 2: to think that there are drivers out there on the

838
00:37:13,973 --> 00:37:16,212
Speaker 2: road that are that airgro enough to want to start

839
00:37:16,213 --> 00:37:18,333
Speaker 2: a confrontation in the middle of State Highway one.

840
00:37:18,613 --> 00:37:20,773
Speaker 3: Yeah, the nutcase theory. I mean, that's is at all,

841
00:37:20,813 --> 00:37:21,133
Speaker 3: doesn't it.

842
00:37:21,213 --> 00:37:21,413
Speaker 13: Guys?

843
00:37:21,493 --> 00:37:23,373
Speaker 2: Getting walked over is better than starting a fight with

844
00:37:23,493 --> 00:37:25,693
Speaker 2: a messed out driver with an illegal firearm in his

845
00:37:25,813 --> 00:37:26,292
Speaker 2: car from.

846
00:37:26,293 --> 00:37:27,893
Speaker 3: Lants, very very true, LUTs.

847
00:37:27,973 --> 00:37:29,693
Speaker 2: So, I mean, what do you need to prove to

848
00:37:29,733 --> 00:37:31,373
Speaker 2: people like that? You know, you just need to get

849
00:37:31,373 --> 00:37:32,853
Speaker 2: on with your life and spend time with your family

850
00:37:32,893 --> 00:37:35,213
Speaker 2: and your friends. You don't need to you know, you

851
00:37:35,253 --> 00:37:37,173
Speaker 2: don't need to cross paths and spend any time with

852
00:37:37,253 --> 00:37:37,652
Speaker 2: those people.

853
00:37:37,773 --> 00:37:40,813
Speaker 4: Don't argue with a meth head, John, you had a

854
00:37:40,853 --> 00:37:41,813
Speaker 4: tailgating incident?

855
00:37:43,773 --> 00:37:46,893
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, no, I've got a rock at night and day.

856
00:37:48,533 --> 00:37:52,293
Speaker 5: So I used to have a two seism and eleven

857
00:37:52,813 --> 00:37:53,973
Speaker 5: Ford Felcon.

858
00:37:53,733 --> 00:37:55,213
Speaker 2: GCC nice.

859
00:37:56,573 --> 00:37:59,973
Speaker 5: And had tinted windows, and anybody ever tailgated me?

860
00:38:00,893 --> 00:38:01,212
Speaker 3: All right?

861
00:38:02,093 --> 00:38:05,493
Speaker 5: Maybe it was because of the of the car. I'll

862
00:38:05,533 --> 00:38:07,973
Speaker 5: tell you what. This was a really fleshy tower or

863
00:38:08,013 --> 00:38:10,813
Speaker 5: head of all stick it up and him and I

864
00:38:10,933 --> 00:38:13,853
Speaker 5: had the beautiful meads on and stuff. But then I

865
00:38:14,013 --> 00:38:18,973
Speaker 5: drove my sister of little Hitchbi and I was getting tawgated.

866
00:38:19,493 --> 00:38:20,533
Speaker 5: Was an old greedy you know.

867
00:38:20,573 --> 00:38:20,893
Speaker 8: What I mean.

868
00:38:21,093 --> 00:38:23,573
Speaker 2: So these tarlergaters are cowards because they couldn't see you.

869
00:38:23,813 --> 00:38:26,293
Speaker 2: They like, I'm not going to tell this could be anyone.

870
00:38:27,213 --> 00:38:28,172
Speaker 5: Going to him.

871
00:38:29,933 --> 00:38:32,493
Speaker 3: Whatever, That could be someone I don't want to mess with.

872
00:38:32,613 --> 00:38:36,333
Speaker 2: You go tailgate is a spineless he might have a

873
00:38:36,373 --> 00:38:37,053
Speaker 2: bazooka in the.

874
00:38:40,613 --> 00:38:43,692
Speaker 5: But I'll tell you one thing. Watch it for those

875
00:38:43,893 --> 00:38:46,453
Speaker 5: miss hea drivers make they are everywhere.

876
00:38:46,893 --> 00:38:48,853
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, nicely, said John.

877
00:38:49,293 --> 00:38:52,093
Speaker 4: Right, we're going to carry this on after two o'clock

878
00:38:52,093 --> 00:38:53,493
Speaker 4: because there's so many people who want to have a

879
00:38:53,533 --> 00:38:55,853
Speaker 4: chat about it. If you've recently been in a road

880
00:38:55,973 --> 00:38:59,053
Speaker 4: rage incident or had quite a scary one in recent years,

881
00:38:59,093 --> 00:39:00,533
Speaker 4: love to hear from you. Oh one hundred and eighty

882
00:39:00,613 --> 00:39:01,772
Speaker 4: ten eighty is a number to call.

883
00:39:02,293 --> 00:39:05,933
Speaker 2: The stext says, fair leads to anger. Anger leads to hatred.

884
00:39:06,133 --> 00:39:07,893
Speaker 2: Hatred leads to suffering.

885
00:39:08,573 --> 00:39:10,813
Speaker 3: Why not from Yoda? It's from Brody, one of the

886
00:39:10,893 --> 00:39:11,533
Speaker 3: great lines.

887
00:39:12,013 --> 00:39:14,933
Speaker 4: All right, Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the

888
00:39:15,293 --> 00:39:18,253
Speaker 4: number to call. Really keen to hear your stories on

889
00:39:18,413 --> 00:39:21,973
Speaker 4: this couple of texts to get us up to the news. Hey, guys,

890
00:39:22,493 --> 00:39:26,333
Speaker 4: just regarding your address and registration, people should absolutely use

891
00:39:26,373 --> 00:39:29,253
Speaker 4: the opt out option as others have said, it's protected

892
00:39:29,333 --> 00:39:31,493
Speaker 4: me when others have tried to find out where I've

893
00:39:31,533 --> 00:39:34,493
Speaker 4: lived after incidents, and it works a treat.

894
00:39:34,573 --> 00:39:36,453
Speaker 2: This species says you sex as pegs. Might not be

895
00:39:36,493 --> 00:39:39,053
Speaker 2: a male that sent that letter, might be a menopausal woman.

896
00:39:40,093 --> 00:39:43,173
Speaker 2: Well okay, so sorry, we have assumed that it was

897
00:39:43,213 --> 00:39:44,493
Speaker 2: a man and not a menopausal woman.

898
00:39:44,573 --> 00:39:46,652
Speaker 3: We apologize to that. Yet you've got us there.

899
00:39:47,093 --> 00:39:50,013
Speaker 2: It's true. We fully just assumed. How sexist of you, Tyler?

900
00:39:50,133 --> 00:39:52,573
Speaker 4: It may have been an elderly woman. One hundred percent right, oh,

901
00:39:52,613 --> 00:39:55,933
Speaker 4: eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call menopausal?

902
00:39:56,053 --> 00:39:58,813
Speaker 4: Is an elderly Tyler? Did I say elderly ageist?

903
00:39:59,173 --> 00:40:00,172
Speaker 3: Putting words in my mouth?

904
00:40:04,533 --> 00:40:08,213
Speaker 1: Talking with you all afternoon? It's Matt Heathen, Taylor Adams

905
00:40:08,413 --> 00:40:10,213
Speaker 1: afternoons us talks.

906
00:40:10,213 --> 00:40:12,133
Speaker 3: It'd be good day to you.

907
00:40:12,293 --> 00:40:15,333
Speaker 4: Welcome back into the show. Seven pass too. So we're

908
00:40:15,373 --> 00:40:17,373
Speaker 4: going to carry on with the road rage stories.

909
00:40:17,493 --> 00:40:21,093
Speaker 2: Now, if you apologize to a menopausal woman, I am

910
00:40:21,293 --> 00:40:25,172
Speaker 2: olderly woman. How dare you? Elderly women are not menopausal?

911
00:40:26,373 --> 00:40:30,533
Speaker 2: Menopausal is between the ages of thirty five to fty nine,

912
00:40:31,053 --> 00:40:35,093
Speaker 2: occasionally a couple of years younger or older, but not elderly, Tyler,

913
00:40:35,293 --> 00:40:36,293
Speaker 2: how dare you so?

914
00:40:36,533 --> 00:40:36,692
Speaker 5: Too?

915
00:40:36,933 --> 00:40:37,933
Speaker 3: Was that from Irin?

916
00:40:38,533 --> 00:40:41,533
Speaker 4: Was that from Irinri? I stepped out of my lane

917
00:40:41,573 --> 00:40:43,493
Speaker 4: to use a car analogy, just for a short moment,

918
00:40:43,533 --> 00:40:44,413
Speaker 4: and I apologized for that.

919
00:40:44,533 --> 00:40:47,172
Speaker 3: I had no idea. But now you've informed me. We're

920
00:40:47,173 --> 00:40:47,813
Speaker 3: all better for it.

921
00:40:48,773 --> 00:40:50,813
Speaker 2: Cars don't have feet, Tyler. You can't step out of

922
00:40:50,853 --> 00:40:52,093
Speaker 2: your lane in the car, so it's not a car

923
00:40:52,133 --> 00:40:54,053
Speaker 2: an amaty? Can you apologize for that as well?

924
00:40:54,733 --> 00:40:56,413
Speaker 3: I just can't wait today again? I right?

925
00:40:56,453 --> 00:40:58,133
Speaker 4: Oh, one hundred and eighty to eighty is a number

926
00:40:58,133 --> 00:40:59,293
Speaker 4: of cour If you didn't see this story, it is

927
00:40:59,373 --> 00:41:02,533
Speaker 4: quite terrifying. What was terrifying for an Auckland family who

928
00:41:02,733 --> 00:41:06,373
Speaker 4: received quite a threatening letter in their letterbox? And of

929
00:41:06,493 --> 00:41:08,573
Speaker 4: course I had no return address on it for an

930
00:41:08,573 --> 00:41:11,573
Speaker 4: alleged road range incident. So the letter, I'll read it out.

931
00:41:11,613 --> 00:41:14,573
Speaker 4: It's a small letter. Read seven thirty am on Friday,

932
00:41:14,613 --> 00:41:17,213
Speaker 4: the fifteenth of August on ramp before Auckland Harbor Bridge.

933
00:41:17,213 --> 00:41:18,933
Speaker 4: If you're going to drive like an a hole and

934
00:41:19,133 --> 00:41:21,772
Speaker 4: almost cause a crash with your laying changes, make sure

935
00:41:21,853 --> 00:41:23,573
Speaker 4: it's not to a person who can find out where

936
00:41:23,573 --> 00:41:23,893
Speaker 4: you live.

937
00:41:24,413 --> 00:41:27,333
Speaker 2: Yeah, that bit the bit not to a person who

938
00:41:27,373 --> 00:41:29,173
Speaker 2: can find out where you live. You're trying to be

939
00:41:29,533 --> 00:41:35,853
Speaker 2: like a Hollywood movie threatening gangster type. Yeah, it mar

940
00:41:35,933 --> 00:41:41,133
Speaker 2: Fiosio's sounding. It's it's actually pathetic, psychotic. It's pathetic. You've

941
00:41:41,213 --> 00:41:43,093
Speaker 2: gone out of your way, You've taken all that time

942
00:41:43,133 --> 00:41:45,213
Speaker 2: in your life. Do you think that the interesting thing

943
00:41:45,293 --> 00:41:49,373
Speaker 2: is whether they followed the person home or where they

944
00:41:49,733 --> 00:41:52,373
Speaker 2: locked up the registration online and had access, Because if

945
00:41:52,373 --> 00:41:54,453
Speaker 2: they had, if they've looked up the number on the

946
00:41:54,573 --> 00:41:57,613
Speaker 2: registration on number one online, I understand it'd be quite

947
00:41:57,613 --> 00:41:58,693
Speaker 2: easy to find out who's done that.

948
00:41:58,893 --> 00:42:01,333
Speaker 3: Yeah, and hopefully it is the second option.

949
00:42:01,573 --> 00:42:04,493
Speaker 2: Hey guys looking loving the road rage chat? How do

950
00:42:04,613 --> 00:42:06,732
Speaker 2: I opt out? How do I do with the opt

951
00:42:06,773 --> 00:42:08,212
Speaker 2: out thingy? That's from PHLIPPA.

952
00:42:08,453 --> 00:42:10,772
Speaker 4: Great question now from memory, I opt out at about

953
00:42:11,013 --> 00:42:12,853
Speaker 4: two years ago. So you do have to fill out

954
00:42:12,853 --> 00:42:14,293
Speaker 4: a form. You can go just to the Ministry of

955
00:42:14,333 --> 00:42:16,493
Speaker 4: Transport website. It's got it there. You just go Ministry

956
00:42:16,533 --> 00:42:18,813
Speaker 4: of Transport opt Out and they make you fill out

957
00:42:18,853 --> 00:42:20,973
Speaker 4: a form. You've got to prove a few bits and pieces,

958
00:42:21,053 --> 00:42:23,573
Speaker 4: but it's completely free and it was pretty easy to do.

959
00:42:23,773 --> 00:42:25,373
Speaker 3: So just go straight to the website, it's there.

960
00:42:25,573 --> 00:42:26,893
Speaker 2: What do you think about that? I one hundred and

961
00:42:26,933 --> 00:42:29,773
Speaker 2: eighty ten eighty. If someone is tailgatting you, it's because

962
00:42:29,853 --> 00:42:32,493
Speaker 2: they want to pass, pull aside, slow down a bit

963
00:42:32,533 --> 00:42:35,013
Speaker 2: and let them pass. Why would you not interpret this

964
00:42:35,093 --> 00:42:38,813
Speaker 2: behavior differently or act any differently. It's the self it's

965
00:42:38,853 --> 00:42:41,173
Speaker 2: selfish in my opinion, to decide the speed for everyone

966
00:42:41,293 --> 00:42:43,413
Speaker 2: behind you just because you are in front. Be a

967
00:42:43,453 --> 00:42:47,093
Speaker 2: considerate a driver and allow faster drivers to easily pass you.

968
00:42:47,573 --> 00:42:49,333
Speaker 2: But what if you're going the speed limit? Are you

969
00:42:49,373 --> 00:42:52,133
Speaker 2: expected to exceed the speed limit because the person behind

970
00:42:52,173 --> 00:42:56,613
Speaker 2: you wants to exceed the speed limit, and thus you

971
00:42:56,973 --> 00:42:58,173
Speaker 2: get a bloody ticket?

972
00:42:58,533 --> 00:42:58,692
Speaker 6: Yeah?

973
00:42:58,853 --> 00:43:02,493
Speaker 2: Specially, I mean I thoroughly support speeding the limits, exceeding

974
00:43:02,493 --> 00:43:05,013
Speaker 2: the speed limit and the thirty k zones around Auckland

975
00:43:05,013 --> 00:43:08,853
Speaker 2: because that's insanity thirty k. But generally speaking, putting yourself

976
00:43:08,853 --> 00:43:11,053
Speaker 2: at a lot of risk risk exceeding the speed limon

977
00:43:11,093 --> 00:43:15,893
Speaker 2: a you. So if someone's up your ass, yeah, for

978
00:43:16,053 --> 00:43:21,253
Speaker 2: one of a better terms, rude. If someone's tailgating, tyler,

979
00:43:21,373 --> 00:43:23,173
Speaker 2: yes the correct term, That is the correct term, and

980
00:43:23,253 --> 00:43:25,493
Speaker 2: you're traveling fifty and a fifty ks on what are

981
00:43:25,493 --> 00:43:28,213
Speaker 2: you supposed to do exactly and even though I mean

982
00:43:28,253 --> 00:43:30,252
Speaker 2: it's probably actually to be fair, probably at the past

983
00:43:30,293 --> 00:43:33,253
Speaker 2: if you can, because as we've said, they could be

984
00:43:33,333 --> 00:43:35,533
Speaker 2: a method with a shawn Off shotgun.

985
00:43:35,573 --> 00:43:37,453
Speaker 3: You don't know. Yeah, there's always that argument. Oh eight

986
00:43:37,453 --> 00:43:40,172
Speaker 3: one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number two call.

987
00:43:40,413 --> 00:43:42,773
Speaker 2: If being tailgated, Just flick your windscreen ripers on to

988
00:43:43,053 --> 00:43:45,933
Speaker 2: wash your windscreen. If it goes on the car behind you,

989
00:43:46,053 --> 00:43:47,373
Speaker 2: they might get the message to pull back.

990
00:43:47,453 --> 00:43:49,293
Speaker 4: That is a great tip and that's exactly what I

991
00:43:49,293 --> 00:43:51,813
Speaker 4: should have done. I didn't think about that. Meghan, how

992
00:43:51,893 --> 00:43:54,573
Speaker 4: are you? How are you a Meghan?

993
00:43:55,933 --> 00:43:56,053
Speaker 8: Oh?

994
00:43:56,213 --> 00:43:58,373
Speaker 3: We had Megan, and I think we've lost Megan, which

995
00:43:58,413 --> 00:44:00,853
Speaker 3: is a bugger because she had a terrifying ordeal on

996
00:44:01,053 --> 00:44:01,893
Speaker 3: Sunday night.

997
00:44:01,973 --> 00:44:05,493
Speaker 2: Megan, Megan. I watched the movie Megan too the other day.

998
00:44:05,893 --> 00:44:08,293
Speaker 2: It's quite terrifying. It's not as terrifying as the first one.

999
00:44:08,333 --> 00:44:08,773
Speaker 2: It's a good movie.

1000
00:44:08,773 --> 00:44:09,973
Speaker 3: Me very funny as well, wasn't it.

1001
00:44:10,053 --> 00:44:10,212
Speaker 6: Yeah?

1002
00:44:10,253 --> 00:44:11,413
Speaker 2: Directed by a Kiwi.

1003
00:44:11,533 --> 00:44:15,813
Speaker 4: Yeah, fantastic rav I don't think Megan Megan still with us. No,

1004
00:44:15,933 --> 00:44:17,373
Speaker 4: we'll put Megan on hold and come back to her

1005
00:44:17,373 --> 00:44:18,933
Speaker 4: because you've got a good story to tell. But we'll

1006
00:44:19,333 --> 00:44:22,573
Speaker 4: play some messages when we come back. We've got full boards.

1007
00:44:22,573 --> 00:44:24,252
Speaker 4: If you can't get through, keep trying. Oh eight hundred

1008
00:44:24,293 --> 00:44:26,133
Speaker 4: and eighty ten eighty is the number to call.

1009
00:44:27,653 --> 00:44:31,773
Speaker 1: Your home of afternoon talk Mad Heathen Taylor Adams afternoons

1010
00:44:32,053 --> 00:44:35,053
Speaker 1: call Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty us talk said, be.

1011
00:44:36,333 --> 00:44:38,652
Speaker 3: Good afternoon to you. Thirteen past two.

1012
00:44:38,853 --> 00:44:41,413
Speaker 2: I've just heard some shocking news you have. You know

1013
00:44:41,453 --> 00:44:44,533
Speaker 2: how angry I got when I got pinned for driving

1014
00:44:44,573 --> 00:44:46,973
Speaker 2: at fifty kilometers now in a thirty kilometers in our

1015
00:44:47,133 --> 00:44:49,533
Speaker 2: zone that is put in nearby psychopaths that are trying

1016
00:44:49,533 --> 00:44:51,772
Speaker 2: to strangle the life out of our city.

1017
00:44:51,813 --> 00:44:53,053
Speaker 3: You're still a bit angry about him.

1018
00:44:53,133 --> 00:44:55,253
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've got to one hundred and seventy dollar ticket

1019
00:44:55,293 --> 00:44:56,652
Speaker 2: and thirty.

1020
00:44:56,973 --> 00:44:59,813
Speaker 3: Something demerit points yep, thirty.

1021
00:44:59,933 --> 00:45:01,693
Speaker 2: So just a couple of weeks later, that is now

1022
00:45:01,813 --> 00:45:03,573
Speaker 2: back up to a fifty kilometer in our zone.

1023
00:45:03,773 --> 00:45:06,173
Speaker 3: That hurts that. Really, it doesn't hurt me, but it

1024
00:45:06,293 --> 00:45:06,573
Speaker 3: hurts you.

1025
00:45:06,893 --> 00:45:09,773
Speaker 2: So you know, I was getting absolutely pinged and slammed

1026
00:45:09,813 --> 00:45:12,212
Speaker 2: for doing something that everyone was doing because everyone knew

1027
00:45:12,253 --> 00:45:14,493
Speaker 2: it was absolutely stupid to lower the speed limit to

1028
00:45:14,533 --> 00:45:17,333
Speaker 2: thirty k in that area and then they've finally admitted

1029
00:45:17,373 --> 00:45:21,333
Speaker 2: it put it up. Just remember, when you're voting in

1030
00:45:21,413 --> 00:45:24,173
Speaker 2: local body elections, just check who are the people that

1031
00:45:24,253 --> 00:45:26,573
Speaker 2: thought it was a good idea to lower the lower

1032
00:45:26,613 --> 00:45:28,733
Speaker 2: the speed limit in those areas to thirty k and

1033
00:45:28,813 --> 00:45:31,732
Speaker 2: steal those precious moments from your life up view because

1034
00:45:31,773 --> 00:45:34,933
Speaker 2: they think that they know better than the rest of us.

1035
00:45:35,333 --> 00:45:38,172
Speaker 2: They want to squeeze the life out of us. They

1036
00:45:38,333 --> 00:45:39,933
Speaker 2: enjoy the power and the control.

1037
00:45:40,093 --> 00:45:41,733
Speaker 3: Yeah, but you're over it now though, aren't you?

1038
00:45:41,893 --> 00:45:42,013
Speaker 5: Ah?

1039
00:45:42,173 --> 00:45:43,172
Speaker 2: Moved on yet?

1040
00:45:43,293 --> 00:45:43,573
Speaker 6: Moved on?

1041
00:45:43,853 --> 00:45:44,933
Speaker 3: You got to get that money back.

1042
00:45:45,173 --> 00:45:47,413
Speaker 2: To opt out, you'll need your drivers you see on

1043
00:45:47,493 --> 00:45:51,733
Speaker 2: driver's license, your verhical plate number, the details of anyone

1044
00:45:52,093 --> 00:45:55,933
Speaker 2: recorded as a joint registered person who will be automatically

1045
00:45:56,013 --> 00:45:59,013
Speaker 2: withheld if the primary registered person opts out. Opting out

1046
00:45:59,133 --> 00:46:02,013
Speaker 2: is only available to individuals. If you want to back

1047
00:46:02,093 --> 00:46:04,253
Speaker 2: in at a later date, you will need to contact

1048
00:46:04,653 --> 00:46:07,692
Speaker 2: in z TA dot gov dot z Yeah, there you are,

1049
00:46:07,813 --> 00:46:11,973
Speaker 2: so you can op out. Got AZTA dot dot INZI.

1050
00:46:11,933 --> 00:46:12,613
Speaker 3: Soper Easy to do.

1051
00:46:13,133 --> 00:46:15,053
Speaker 4: Oh one hundred and eighteen eighty some number to call

1052
00:46:15,253 --> 00:46:17,653
Speaker 4: Joe you want to talk about her road rage incidents?

1053
00:46:18,933 --> 00:46:19,973
Speaker 15: Yes, And this.

1054
00:46:21,893 --> 00:46:26,093
Speaker 19: Happened back in nineteen sixty five sixty six to my

1055
00:46:26,253 --> 00:46:29,453
Speaker 19: sister who was all of about twenty seven, and she

1056
00:46:29,533 --> 00:46:32,692
Speaker 19: had a little oftin eight sitting at the traffic lights

1057
00:46:32,733 --> 00:46:37,173
Speaker 19: and only hunger and waiting for it to go to green.

1058
00:46:38,253 --> 00:46:42,212
Speaker 19: And so she starts to put it into first gear

1059
00:46:42,333 --> 00:46:44,533
Speaker 19: and the next thing there's this blast of a horn

1060
00:46:44,573 --> 00:46:48,413
Speaker 19: from behind. So what does she do. She gets out,

1061
00:46:48,573 --> 00:46:52,333
Speaker 19: walks around the car, inspects it couldn't see anything wrong.

1062
00:46:52,853 --> 00:46:56,333
Speaker 19: So she goes back to the driver behind her and asks,

1063
00:46:56,453 --> 00:46:58,573
Speaker 19: you know, you know, you two did the horn, and

1064
00:46:58,653 --> 00:47:01,813
Speaker 19: what's wrong with my car? Don't see anything? It has

1065
00:47:01,893 --> 00:47:04,893
Speaker 19: to be told that she wasn't getting off fast enough

1066
00:47:04,973 --> 00:47:08,253
Speaker 19: at the lights by this time. Of course that got

1067
00:47:08,413 --> 00:47:12,373
Speaker 19: red again, so the driver behind had to wait. So

1068
00:47:12,813 --> 00:47:16,973
Speaker 19: maybe she taught him a lesson. Wow, road rage was

1069
00:47:17,093 --> 00:47:17,893
Speaker 19: even back then.

1070
00:47:18,093 --> 00:47:20,493
Speaker 2: Yeah, road rage fifty nine years ago. I tell you

1071
00:47:20,573 --> 00:47:22,212
Speaker 2: what is a beautiful car.

1072
00:47:24,173 --> 00:47:27,093
Speaker 19: Her very first car, and her father said that it

1073
00:47:27,093 --> 00:47:30,333
Speaker 19: should keep her poor, and she promised him that when

1074
00:47:30,453 --> 00:47:35,213
Speaker 19: it cost her more than ten shillings a week to

1075
00:47:35,333 --> 00:47:37,613
Speaker 19: fill it up, she would get rid of that. Well,

1076
00:47:37,813 --> 00:47:39,893
Speaker 19: she didn't because would.

1077
00:47:39,653 --> 00:47:42,413
Speaker 2: Have been quite old in nineteen sixty five. That would

1078
00:47:42,413 --> 00:47:43,613
Speaker 2: have been it would have been on the road for

1079
00:47:43,973 --> 00:47:44,893
Speaker 2: twenty plus years of.

1080
00:47:44,893 --> 00:47:50,013
Speaker 8: That I think thirty seven year right, And how long did.

1081
00:47:49,933 --> 00:47:50,373
Speaker 3: She keep it for?

1082
00:47:50,533 --> 00:47:50,692
Speaker 6: Joe?

1083
00:47:51,973 --> 00:47:52,133
Speaker 20: Oh?

1084
00:47:52,493 --> 00:47:55,773
Speaker 19: It went round the whole of New Zealand on camping

1085
00:47:55,893 --> 00:48:01,172
Speaker 19: trips with me her three or four times. You get

1086
00:48:01,213 --> 00:48:03,053
Speaker 19: the whole of New Zealand three or four times.

1087
00:48:03,293 --> 00:48:05,292
Speaker 2: Wow, beautiful, it was great.

1088
00:48:05,373 --> 00:48:09,293
Speaker 19: She got caught in Dunedin and as we're playing up

1089
00:48:09,373 --> 00:48:12,653
Speaker 19: and she was out in the WAPs somewhere and she

1090
00:48:12,933 --> 00:48:16,093
Speaker 19: couldn't get up at the hell going first, So she

1091
00:48:16,253 --> 00:48:18,733
Speaker 19: turned it around and put it into reverse because she

1092
00:48:18,853 --> 00:48:22,293
Speaker 19: knew that was a lower ratio gear. She went back up.

1093
00:48:24,133 --> 00:48:25,373
Speaker 3: Smart lady, your sister.

1094
00:48:25,693 --> 00:48:27,293
Speaker 2: If you want to see a stylist car, you look

1095
00:48:27,333 --> 00:48:32,373
Speaker 2: at the Austin eight Torah, the convertible. It's an absolutely beautiful,

1096
00:48:32,973 --> 00:48:33,933
Speaker 2: ye oldie vehicle.

1097
00:48:34,693 --> 00:48:37,133
Speaker 16: Garth, there are you going?

1098
00:48:37,773 --> 00:48:40,493
Speaker 2: I understand that you've driven in a dangerous manner and

1099
00:48:41,693 --> 00:48:42,893
Speaker 2: you're going to want to apologize it.

1100
00:48:43,093 --> 00:48:47,053
Speaker 7: Well, yeah, if anybody deserves a bit of road roads

1101
00:48:47,093 --> 00:48:50,013
Speaker 7: towards him, reverse road roads, it's me today.

1102
00:48:52,413 --> 00:48:54,453
Speaker 5: Tyler will know this area over there Mount.

1103
00:48:54,333 --> 00:48:57,573
Speaker 3: White Case, Yes, it's beautiful.

1104
00:48:59,133 --> 00:49:02,493
Speaker 7: Yeah, bloonet bars in there today and a little bit wet,

1105
00:49:03,493 --> 00:49:06,293
Speaker 7: and I was driving a coach, quite a big one,

1106
00:49:07,373 --> 00:49:09,613
Speaker 7: and I've got a gusta and the blue that hard

1107
00:49:09,773 --> 00:49:14,333
Speaker 7: blew the front of my bus sideways. Oh wow, across

1108
00:49:14,533 --> 00:49:18,613
Speaker 7: across the white line. I was full lock. Yeah was

1109
00:49:18,733 --> 00:49:21,333
Speaker 7: man the hell it was? It was and there was

1110
00:49:21,373 --> 00:49:22,533
Speaker 7: two cars coming towards me.

1111
00:49:23,653 --> 00:49:24,973
Speaker 3: It's quite a narrow corner.

1112
00:49:25,093 --> 00:49:27,213
Speaker 4: So so, just for people who don't know the area,

1113
00:49:27,773 --> 00:49:30,172
Speaker 4: cass Mount White is on the way to Arthur's Pass,

1114
00:49:30,293 --> 00:49:32,973
Speaker 4: not not far past Castle.

1115
00:49:32,693 --> 00:49:35,533
Speaker 5: Hill, right, Yeah, yeah, it was.

1116
00:49:35,613 --> 00:49:37,453
Speaker 7: It was down there. Luckily there was a little bit

1117
00:49:37,493 --> 00:49:40,253
Speaker 7: of room for them to swerve it, but but I

1118
00:49:40,373 --> 00:49:42,213
Speaker 7: had to stop and rearrange my underpens.

1119
00:49:42,253 --> 00:49:43,573
Speaker 5: So I would say.

1120
00:49:45,533 --> 00:49:48,333
Speaker 7: I would say that they I'm surprised they didn't turn around.

1121
00:49:48,373 --> 00:49:49,453
Speaker 5: Actually, very surprised.

1122
00:49:49,693 --> 00:49:53,293
Speaker 2: Well, I'm going to say that that's obviously that's not

1123
00:49:53,413 --> 00:49:55,373
Speaker 2: on you. That was the last thing you wanted to happen.

1124
00:49:56,933 --> 00:49:59,973
Speaker 7: No, No, it's definitely not something I wanted to happen.

1125
00:50:00,333 --> 00:50:00,933
Speaker 5: Definitely not.

1126
00:50:01,653 --> 00:50:04,933
Speaker 7: And it was terri it was terrifying, absolutely terrifying.

1127
00:50:04,973 --> 00:50:07,453
Speaker 4: Oh it sounds like that's wind range of anything. Did

1128
00:50:07,533 --> 00:50:09,213
Speaker 4: you have any people in a coach at the time.

1129
00:50:09,133 --> 00:50:11,173
Speaker 7: Guth No, that's that's the problem.

1130
00:50:11,213 --> 00:50:11,933
Speaker 5: That was empty gun.

1131
00:50:12,293 --> 00:50:13,013
Speaker 21: I was just going over.

1132
00:50:13,093 --> 00:50:15,413
Speaker 7: I was almost at the destination. I was picking up

1133
00:50:15,653 --> 00:50:18,173
Speaker 7: at White's Bridge, pricking up some people who have been

1134
00:50:18,213 --> 00:50:20,373
Speaker 7: in the bush for a while and going back. It

1135
00:50:20,533 --> 00:50:24,573
Speaker 7: was perfect with weight on, but those of them my

1136
00:50:24,813 --> 00:50:26,973
Speaker 7: tires were screeching as if I was doing a Really,

1137
00:50:27,853 --> 00:50:30,893
Speaker 7: I was left trying to get a hard lot left

1138
00:50:30,933 --> 00:50:32,773
Speaker 7: trying to get back onto my side and when the

1139
00:50:32,973 --> 00:50:37,093
Speaker 7: gust subsided, just flicked straight back across and likely these

1140
00:50:37,133 --> 00:50:38,252
Speaker 7: guys have already gone past.

1141
00:50:38,333 --> 00:50:41,293
Speaker 2: So yeah, and like I had an experience, experience being

1142
00:50:41,373 --> 00:50:42,933
Speaker 2: like yourself behind the wheel, because it could have been

1143
00:50:42,973 --> 00:50:43,453
Speaker 2: a lot worse.

1144
00:50:44,573 --> 00:50:46,933
Speaker 7: Oh, I could have been could have been man. Yeah,

1145
00:50:47,293 --> 00:50:49,613
Speaker 7: and I've never seen one like that, and I've lived

1146
00:50:49,653 --> 00:50:51,333
Speaker 7: in Canterbury for a wee while.

1147
00:50:51,693 --> 00:50:51,893
Speaker 8: Yeah.

1148
00:50:52,533 --> 00:50:56,333
Speaker 2: Sometimes you know a bus or a van and we'll

1149
00:50:56,533 --> 00:50:58,732
Speaker 2: just to create the craziest stuff in the wind.

1150
00:50:58,853 --> 00:51:02,893
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's it's you don't think it'll be. Yeah, apology

1151
00:51:02,933 --> 00:51:04,533
Speaker 4: accepted that, Garth, thank you very much.

1152
00:51:05,413 --> 00:51:07,933
Speaker 2: This businesses. You're not the police. There's nothing worse than

1153
00:51:07,973 --> 00:51:10,453
Speaker 2: some monkey in the right lane holding up traffic doing

1154
00:51:10,493 --> 00:51:14,053
Speaker 2: the speed limit in it says this texture. Yeah, we've

1155
00:51:14,053 --> 00:51:16,413
Speaker 2: talked about this on the show before. What are your obligations?

1156
00:51:16,453 --> 00:51:19,732
Speaker 2: Obviously you're only in the right lane if you're passing people,

1157
00:51:20,093 --> 00:51:21,732
Speaker 2: and then you get out of the right lane, there's

1158
00:51:21,733 --> 00:51:26,653
Speaker 2: an opportunity if there's other lanes, so you know, speeding whatever.

1159
00:51:27,973 --> 00:51:32,573
Speaker 2: If there's someone, if there's someone talgating you and you're

1160
00:51:32,573 --> 00:51:34,093
Speaker 2: in the right lane and you've got the ability to

1161
00:51:34,213 --> 00:51:36,253
Speaker 2: move left, then let them through.

1162
00:51:36,413 --> 00:51:37,053
Speaker 3: Do the right thing.

1163
00:51:37,613 --> 00:51:39,493
Speaker 2: I mean, you know you as I says, you're not

1164
00:51:39,533 --> 00:51:42,893
Speaker 2: the police. So if they want a speed that's really

1165
00:51:43,013 --> 00:51:46,493
Speaker 2: up to them to a certain extent. But you don't

1166
00:51:46,573 --> 00:51:48,813
Speaker 2: just enforce the law in the right lane.

1167
00:51:48,813 --> 00:51:51,253
Speaker 4: Not some road vigilante trying to slow everyone down. Yeah,

1168
00:51:51,293 --> 00:51:54,093
Speaker 4: for your point, all right, it is twenty one past too,

1169
00:51:54,173 --> 00:51:55,493
Speaker 4: but we're taking more of your calls. Oh eight one

1170
00:51:55,533 --> 00:51:57,653
Speaker 4: hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number to call.

1171
00:52:01,453 --> 00:52:05,093
Speaker 1: Matt Heathen Taylor Adams afternoons call oh eight hundred eighty

1172
00:52:05,173 --> 00:52:05,613
Speaker 1: ten eighty.

1173
00:52:05,733 --> 00:52:07,533
Speaker 8: On News Talk said the very.

1174
00:52:07,453 --> 00:52:09,853
Speaker 4: Good afternoon Dwitt's twenty three past two, and we've been

1175
00:52:09,893 --> 00:52:14,093
Speaker 4: talking about road rage, road rage, road rage incidents.

1176
00:52:13,933 --> 00:52:16,293
Speaker 2: Opt out of what siss tis you're talking about opting

1177
00:52:16,453 --> 00:52:19,293
Speaker 2: out of what's the exact wording of it.

1178
00:52:19,453 --> 00:52:20,413
Speaker 3: Let me just pull it up here.

1179
00:52:20,493 --> 00:52:23,973
Speaker 4: So it's revoke authorized access to my personal details on

1180
00:52:24,093 --> 00:52:26,173
Speaker 4: the New Zealand Transport website.

1181
00:52:26,213 --> 00:52:28,812
Speaker 2: So it's harder for people to look up your number

1182
00:52:28,853 --> 00:52:31,093
Speaker 2: plate and find your details and teach you go around

1183
00:52:31,093 --> 00:52:34,573
Speaker 2: to your house and leave a threatening letter. As with

1184
00:52:34,773 --> 00:52:37,653
Speaker 2: the story, New Zealand roads are a joke. Tailgates everywhere

1185
00:52:37,653 --> 00:52:40,333
Speaker 2: and people go full aggo if you react, truthers, gangs

1186
00:52:40,413 --> 00:52:42,973
Speaker 2: run the roads. Now, safest trekstick a patch in your

1187
00:52:43,013 --> 00:52:46,413
Speaker 2: rear window, no one DearS cut you off crazy wind

1188
00:52:46,453 --> 00:52:48,653
Speaker 2: being a gangsty'll feel safer than driving politely.

1189
00:52:48,813 --> 00:52:49,172
Speaker 5: What of us?

1190
00:52:49,173 --> 00:52:50,133
Speaker 3: Have you got the wrong pitch on?

1191
00:52:50,253 --> 00:52:50,373
Speaker 6: Though?

1192
00:52:50,933 --> 00:52:53,493
Speaker 3: You've got to know you gotta know your gang geography.

1193
00:52:53,813 --> 00:52:54,172
Speaker 8: You might.

1194
00:52:55,693 --> 00:52:58,613
Speaker 2: You just study the gang turf and make sure you

1195
00:52:58,733 --> 00:53:00,893
Speaker 2: swap the patch out for the right gang and the

1196
00:53:00,973 --> 00:53:03,893
Speaker 2: right turf. Now you're talking road rage. On motorway a

1197
00:53:03,973 --> 00:53:06,133
Speaker 2: door fell off truck in front of me. I was

1198
00:53:06,213 --> 00:53:09,133
Speaker 2: so furious I followed him to part a Parlot. I

1199
00:53:09,493 --> 00:53:12,133
Speaker 2: charged out of my car, bellowing at the driver. He said,

1200
00:53:12,173 --> 00:53:14,973
Speaker 2: I'm sorry. I was instantly deflated. I mumbled okay and

1201
00:53:15,093 --> 00:53:15,813
Speaker 2: left the rain.

1202
00:53:16,093 --> 00:53:19,133
Speaker 3: Yeah, it could work for the rain certainly takes the

1203
00:53:19,173 --> 00:53:20,653
Speaker 3: wind out of your anger in that situation.

1204
00:53:20,773 --> 00:53:24,533
Speaker 2: Said sorry, said sorry, Brian, how.

1205
00:53:24,453 --> 00:53:25,253
Speaker 3: Are you this afternoon?

1206
00:53:25,973 --> 00:53:28,973
Speaker 21: Yeah, Tyler right one percent to mean new your actions.

1207
00:53:29,133 --> 00:53:30,813
Speaker 21: And what worries me about your story is that there

1208
00:53:30,853 --> 00:53:33,253
Speaker 21: was a kid in that car, and what ride of

1209
00:53:33,413 --> 00:53:36,573
Speaker 21: driver's got to drive, you know, in a dangerous manner

1210
00:53:36,693 --> 00:53:38,853
Speaker 21: with our people in the car who can't defend for themselves.

1211
00:53:40,053 --> 00:53:41,973
Speaker 21: And what example is she's sending your kid with all

1212
00:53:42,053 --> 00:53:43,973
Speaker 21: that road rage and anger management issues?

1213
00:53:44,293 --> 00:53:46,333
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, what you're saying, Brian. And look, I was

1214
00:53:46,373 --> 00:53:48,893
Speaker 4: feeling pretty smug and petty when I was slowing down

1215
00:53:48,973 --> 00:53:52,533
Speaker 4: to fifteen k. But after the fact, you know, I thought,

1216
00:53:52,653 --> 00:53:54,413
Speaker 4: why do I care if this woman's having a bad

1217
00:53:54,533 --> 00:53:57,533
Speaker 4: day or she's right up my my, my jacksy, I

1218
00:53:57,573 --> 00:54:00,613
Speaker 4: should have just pulled over and let her pass. You know,

1219
00:54:00,773 --> 00:54:02,853
Speaker 4: if she's gonna if she's gonna freak out and get

1220
00:54:02,933 --> 00:54:04,613
Speaker 4: right up the jacksa, then what do I care?

1221
00:54:05,453 --> 00:54:07,732
Speaker 21: Yeah, but hopefully she reflected on directions. I don't think

1222
00:54:07,773 --> 00:54:11,053
Speaker 21: she will just grabbing what you've described. But my, my,

1223
00:54:11,173 --> 00:54:13,133
Speaker 21: other favorite technic I see has when people sit in

1224
00:54:13,213 --> 00:54:16,413
Speaker 21: the right hand lane and just block the traffic. And

1225
00:54:16,613 --> 00:54:18,533
Speaker 21: it's amazing how when you pass them and you sit

1226
00:54:18,573 --> 00:54:20,173
Speaker 21: in front of them and slow the speed down, they

1227
00:54:20,333 --> 00:54:21,253
Speaker 21: just absolutely hate it.

1228
00:54:23,013 --> 00:54:23,212
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1229
00:54:23,373 --> 00:54:25,933
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, so you're behind them and then.

1230
00:54:25,853 --> 00:54:28,133
Speaker 21: You go behind or you're behind them in that blocking

1231
00:54:28,173 --> 00:54:30,493
Speaker 21: all the traffic, no traffic can get through, so you

1232
00:54:30,573 --> 00:54:31,733
Speaker 21: go less past them and.

1233
00:54:31,853 --> 00:54:33,733
Speaker 2: Get in front of them, and then you go past them,

1234
00:54:33,733 --> 00:54:34,652
Speaker 2: and then you get in front of them and then

1235
00:54:34,653 --> 00:54:35,172
Speaker 2: you slow down.

1236
00:54:35,893 --> 00:54:38,413
Speaker 21: Yeah, And it's amazing how they don't like being slowed down.

1237
00:54:38,813 --> 00:54:41,693
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that is given given them the literal

1238
00:54:42,853 --> 00:54:46,172
Speaker 2: You're on both sides of the argument near bright, you're

1239
00:54:46,213 --> 00:54:54,053
Speaker 2: supporting anyway because you know, to quote the stoics again,

1240
00:54:54,653 --> 00:54:56,973
Speaker 2: the best revenge is to not be like them. Yes,

1241
00:54:57,333 --> 00:55:00,613
Speaker 2: So if it's so bad to tailgate, and it's so

1242
00:55:00,813 --> 00:55:03,413
Speaker 2: bad to bed drive, to drive badly that it makes

1243
00:55:03,453 --> 00:55:06,573
Speaker 2: you angry, if you then get revenged by driving dangerously

1244
00:55:06,733 --> 00:55:09,373
Speaker 2: and badly on that person, and then you're just like them,

1245
00:55:09,373 --> 00:55:11,772
Speaker 2: and then you've lost any moral high ground. The best

1246
00:55:11,893 --> 00:55:13,573
Speaker 2: thing to do with someone's driving badly and you go,

1247
00:55:13,973 --> 00:55:15,933
Speaker 2: that's not how I drive a hole.

1248
00:55:16,133 --> 00:55:18,373
Speaker 3: I'm not an a hole. Just go past and continue

1249
00:55:18,413 --> 00:55:18,813
Speaker 3: on your day.

1250
00:55:19,453 --> 00:55:21,293
Speaker 2: I see what you do. I don't respect it, and

1251
00:55:21,373 --> 00:55:23,373
Speaker 2: I don't behave like that myself. There's this that's this

1252
00:55:23,493 --> 00:55:23,733
Speaker 2: way to.

1253
00:55:23,773 --> 00:55:29,053
Speaker 3: Pay good philosophy Ross. What happened to you, mate?

1254
00:55:29,493 --> 00:55:32,933
Speaker 12: Well, I was in a company car park. Well I wasn't.

1255
00:55:33,493 --> 00:55:35,933
Speaker 12: I drove into it and I thought, I used the

1256
00:55:36,133 --> 00:55:39,732
Speaker 12: disabled park because I've got the card and you've.

1257
00:55:39,653 --> 00:55:42,013
Speaker 3: Got the card. Sorry, sorry, I'm sorry. I started judging

1258
00:55:42,053 --> 00:55:42,493
Speaker 3: to early.

1259
00:55:45,173 --> 00:55:48,693
Speaker 22: Back and there was there was a company vehicle in

1260
00:55:48,773 --> 00:55:52,773
Speaker 22: there with a signage on the on the vehicle. Anyway,

1261
00:55:53,213 --> 00:55:55,453
Speaker 22: there was no problem. I just parked next to him

1262
00:55:55,653 --> 00:55:56,692
Speaker 22: because there was clearly your room.

1263
00:55:57,533 --> 00:55:59,093
Speaker 5: But I thought, hang on, he might do this.

1264
00:55:59,173 --> 00:56:03,373
Speaker 12: On the streets as well, with a shortage of parks,

1265
00:56:04,133 --> 00:56:07,413
Speaker 12: and so I just held my card up to the

1266
00:56:07,453 --> 00:56:14,133
Speaker 12: window was he got into his vehicle and he probably

1267
00:56:14,613 --> 00:56:20,373
Speaker 12: told me to get that ward, and I thought, oh,

1268
00:56:20,653 --> 00:56:24,573
Speaker 12: that's nice. Anyway, I hadn't lived here long at that point,

1269
00:56:24,693 --> 00:56:26,493
Speaker 12: so anyway, that's that's.

1270
00:56:26,653 --> 00:56:26,973
Speaker 23: That was that.

1271
00:56:27,093 --> 00:56:28,573
Speaker 12: So I went into the company where I was where

1272
00:56:28,573 --> 00:56:30,413
Speaker 12: I was going, and he was come out of there,

1273
00:56:31,333 --> 00:56:34,212
Speaker 12: and I told them and I said she said, I said,

1274
00:56:34,213 --> 00:56:37,093
Speaker 12: maybe I should ring possible, there's no I says, no problem.

1275
00:56:37,133 --> 00:56:39,533
Speaker 12: I just part beside him. It was pretty of ruin.

1276
00:56:39,773 --> 00:56:41,652
Speaker 12: But he might do that on the streets as well.

1277
00:56:42,813 --> 00:56:46,653
Speaker 12: And I said, maybe I should call his boss company

1278
00:56:47,893 --> 00:56:53,853
Speaker 12: And she said, well his boss was sitting beside him awkward,

1279
00:56:53,933 --> 00:56:56,133
Speaker 12: so his boss didn't here either, obviously, all.

1280
00:56:56,093 --> 00:56:57,333
Speaker 3: Right, maybe not so awkward.

1281
00:56:57,453 --> 00:57:00,693
Speaker 2: You can't be you can't be parking and the disabled.

1282
00:57:00,933 --> 00:57:03,493
Speaker 3: That's a mess of no no excuse, thank you.

1283
00:57:03,733 --> 00:57:04,773
Speaker 2: You know Steve Jobs, the.

1284
00:57:05,253 --> 00:57:08,893
Speaker 3: You know Elman Eppleman, yep, smart.

1285
00:57:08,653 --> 00:57:11,533
Speaker 2: Eye fender here we st always do that. He does

1286
00:57:11,533 --> 00:57:13,173
Speaker 2: this the whole thing. I read the book on Jobs,

1287
00:57:13,573 --> 00:57:17,733
Speaker 2: and he did this whole thing about let's not have

1288
00:57:18,293 --> 00:57:21,213
Speaker 2: parks that are allocated to people in terms of the

1289
00:57:21,333 --> 00:57:24,013
Speaker 2: hierarchy in the company. And then he just scream in

1290
00:57:24,093 --> 00:57:26,733
Speaker 2: and park his portion in the disabled spots beside the

1291
00:57:26,813 --> 00:57:32,053
Speaker 2: doors of Ale smart Man and rich genius but also

1292
00:57:32,093 --> 00:57:34,973
Speaker 2: on ahole. Is probably the best way to described Steve Jobs. Chris,

1293
00:57:35,213 --> 00:57:35,853
Speaker 2: welcome to show.

1294
00:57:37,053 --> 00:57:42,013
Speaker 18: Yes, good afternoon. I'm out sir Auckland. And it's quite

1295
00:57:42,093 --> 00:57:45,973
Speaker 18: common for road radue. Someone will be going less than

1296
00:57:46,053 --> 00:57:50,253
Speaker 18: the speed limits on the road, or indicate let's go right,

1297
00:57:51,253 --> 00:57:53,693
Speaker 18: or pull out in front of you, or just doesn't

1298
00:57:53,733 --> 00:57:57,853
Speaker 18: have any regard for your driving, and then you go

1299
00:57:57,973 --> 00:58:01,613
Speaker 18: to go ahead of them. It's like a race two

1300
00:58:01,733 --> 00:58:04,093
Speaker 18: people on the road to keep always in front.

1301
00:58:04,933 --> 00:58:05,373
Speaker 8: And so.

1302
00:58:07,013 --> 00:58:08,853
Speaker 18: It's pretty much a big.

1303
00:58:10,493 --> 00:58:10,813
Speaker 5: Problem.

1304
00:58:11,053 --> 00:58:14,053
Speaker 18: And you know, I saw the sky one time and

1305
00:58:15,253 --> 00:58:17,333
Speaker 18: he helped out with a baseball bat, and you know

1306
00:58:18,773 --> 00:58:22,773
Speaker 18: it got a revenge on the driver that didn't go

1307
00:58:23,453 --> 00:58:27,653
Speaker 18: barcel Us because everyone's in a hurry, is it Tom?

1308
00:58:29,413 --> 00:58:30,253
Speaker 3: Say that again? Sorry?

1309
00:58:31,653 --> 00:58:33,493
Speaker 18: Oh everybody is in a hurry.

1310
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Speaker 3: Yeah, yep.

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Speaker 18: But I didn't want to be in front.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I think so slightly less than it

1313
00:58:41,013 --> 00:58:44,533
Speaker 2: used to be. When I was first driving, Chris, I'd

1314
00:58:44,893 --> 00:58:46,333
Speaker 2: always been trying to get to the front because I

1315
00:58:46,373 --> 00:58:48,613
Speaker 2: was an idiot, young driver, and I think that that

1316
00:58:48,813 --> 00:58:50,573
Speaker 2: was kind of the way people thought. You were always

1317
00:58:50,613 --> 00:58:52,253
Speaker 2: trying to get ahead of the car in front of you,

1318
00:58:52,413 --> 00:58:54,773
Speaker 2: passing people go and go. But now I think we

1319
00:58:54,973 --> 00:58:58,653
Speaker 2: get cruise control trains primarily when you're going between cities,

1320
00:58:58,693 --> 00:59:02,653
Speaker 2: don't you, Yeah, where everyone just locks themselves in at

1321
00:59:02,653 --> 00:59:05,053
Speaker 2: one hundred and just cruises along, which is a much

1322
00:59:05,093 --> 00:59:05,573
Speaker 2: better idea.

1323
00:59:05,733 --> 00:59:07,173
Speaker 3: It's far nicer to be number two.

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00:59:07,453 --> 00:59:10,293
Speaker 4: I'm thinking about those little green lights onto the motorway,

1325
00:59:10,653 --> 00:59:12,293
Speaker 4: and you know you've got two cars.

1326
00:59:12,173 --> 00:59:14,933
Speaker 3: And they always people like to screen to get in front.

1327
00:59:15,133 --> 00:59:16,973
Speaker 3: It's just so much more relaxing just to let them

1328
00:59:17,013 --> 00:59:19,253
Speaker 3: go any number two, so much more relaxing.

1329
00:59:19,493 --> 00:59:21,293
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, that's what you've got to decide when

1330
00:59:21,333 --> 00:59:23,093
Speaker 2: you when you when you're going to fire up, whether

1331
00:59:23,133 --> 00:59:24,893
Speaker 2: it's what you get out of the firing up, because

1332
00:59:24,893 --> 00:59:27,133
Speaker 2: if it just ruins your day, then you've given, in

1333
00:59:27,213 --> 00:59:30,293
Speaker 2: my opinion, too much power to the poor driver that's

1334
00:59:30,293 --> 00:59:33,093
Speaker 2: annoyed you. You've given them more than they deserve by

1335
00:59:33,493 --> 00:59:36,093
Speaker 2: letting them take over your mind and make you angry.

1336
00:59:36,253 --> 00:59:38,573
Speaker 4: Yeah, nicely said. That was a great discussion. Thank you

1337
00:59:38,733 --> 00:59:41,533
Speaker 4: to everybody who called and text on there. Coming up

1338
00:59:41,613 --> 00:59:42,813
Speaker 4: after the headlines.

1339
00:59:42,493 --> 00:59:44,013
Speaker 2: We can all agree though that the guy that left

1340
00:59:44,053 --> 00:59:46,493
Speaker 2: the note on that car that started this whole conversation.

1341
00:59:46,333 --> 00:59:50,133
Speaker 4: Yepid, absolute techid, massive ahole.

1342
00:59:50,253 --> 00:59:52,973
Speaker 2: And as he was a woman, well yeah there's that

1343
00:59:53,133 --> 00:59:55,853
Speaker 2: as well, and then he was the deckhaid anyway, exactly right.

1344
00:59:55,933 --> 00:59:57,973
Speaker 4: Coming up after the headlines, we want to have a

1345
00:59:58,013 --> 01:00:00,333
Speaker 4: chat about the enhanced games. So if you haven't heard

1346
01:00:00,373 --> 01:00:03,253
Speaker 4: about the enhanced Games. Effectively, they're going to allow their

1347
01:00:03,333 --> 01:00:06,653
Speaker 4: athletes to take whatever drugs they want banned or not

1348
01:00:06,813 --> 01:00:09,333
Speaker 4: and see how they go break some rec It's happening

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Speaker 4: and may in Las Vegas.

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Speaker 3: Do you think this is too far?

1351
01:00:11,613 --> 01:00:14,733
Speaker 2: Yeah, We're going to have been an Olympic gold multiple

1352
01:00:14,773 --> 01:00:17,333
Speaker 2: Olympic gold winning ethlete to talk about this as well.

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01:00:17,453 --> 01:00:17,613
Speaker 6: Yep.

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01:00:17,693 --> 01:00:20,533
Speaker 4: Looking forward to chatting to Eric Murray very shortly. Right now,

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Speaker 4: though it is twenty nine to.

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Speaker 1: Three youth Talks, it'd be headlines with blue bubble taxis.

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Speaker 14: It's no trouble with a blue bubble. The suspect in

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Speaker 14: a shooting in Minneapolis which has left two children dead,

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01:00:34,733 --> 01:00:38,293
Speaker 14: reportedly had words written on his rifles, including the name

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01:00:38,373 --> 01:00:41,293
Speaker 14: of the christ Church mosque. Gunman twenty three year old

1361
01:00:41,333 --> 01:00:45,133
Speaker 14: Robin Westman, shot through church windows during morning mass, then

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01:00:45,213 --> 01:00:48,813
Speaker 14: turned the gun on himself. Nz Post is hoping to

1363
01:00:48,933 --> 01:00:51,893
Speaker 14: resume all of its United States operations within a matter

1364
01:00:51,973 --> 01:00:55,413
Speaker 14: of weeks. It's suspended package services while waiting for new

1365
01:00:55,493 --> 01:00:59,173
Speaker 14: tariffs to be finalized, but has since resumed commercial shipments

1366
01:00:59,213 --> 01:01:02,373
Speaker 14: for business account holders. They expect to resume gift and

1367
01:01:02,533 --> 01:01:06,373
Speaker 14: consumer sending to the US within a week. The latest

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Speaker 14: sea Kenz employment report shows a thirteen percent increase in

1369
01:01:10,093 --> 01:01:14,013
Speaker 14: job ads for construction workers since last September. Ads in

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01:01:14,093 --> 01:01:18,893
Speaker 14: information and communication technology are also rising steadily, and the

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01:01:19,013 --> 01:01:22,133
Speaker 14: number of Kiwi couples taying the knot continues to drop.

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01:01:22,653 --> 01:01:26,093
Speaker 14: Eighteen thousand marriages and civil unions took place last year,

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01:01:26,453 --> 01:01:30,013
Speaker 14: and that's down four percent on twenty twenty three. The

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01:01:30,133 --> 01:01:32,813
Speaker 14: late yellow card issue breaking down the all Blacks discipline

1375
01:01:32,853 --> 01:01:35,613
Speaker 14: problem read more at ends at Herald Premium. Back now

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01:01:35,693 --> 01:01:36,413
Speaker 14: to Matt and Taylor.

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Speaker 4: Thank you very much, Max. Now let's have a chat

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01:01:39,213 --> 01:01:41,333
Speaker 4: about the Enhanced Games. If you haven't heard about the

1379
01:01:41,453 --> 01:01:44,773
Speaker 4: Enhanced Games. They portray themselves as a league. This is

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01:01:44,853 --> 01:01:47,253
Speaker 4: what they say, designed to push the limits of human ability.

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01:01:47,333 --> 01:01:50,013
Speaker 4: But what they mean is that they allow their athletes

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Speaker 4: to take whatever drugs they want. There are a few

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01:01:52,493 --> 01:01:55,573
Speaker 4: drugs that they won't be allowed, but these are drugs

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01:01:55,613 --> 01:01:58,533
Speaker 4: that are traditionally banned under the World Anti Doping Code.

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01:01:58,613 --> 01:02:00,973
Speaker 4: So it's all go. Next May in Las Vegas, they've

1386
01:02:01,013 --> 01:02:04,253
Speaker 4: already signed up five former athletes in the top prize

1387
01:02:04,333 --> 01:02:07,773
Speaker 4: if you get first place in either track, swimming or

1388
01:02:07,813 --> 01:02:10,413
Speaker 4: weightlift is half a million bucks US.

1389
01:02:10,853 --> 01:02:16,973
Speaker 2: So essentially peds are allowed. They're permitted, so performance enhancing drugs,

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01:02:17,653 --> 01:02:20,053
Speaker 2: they have to be subscribed by a doctor. There's no

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01:02:20,253 --> 01:02:23,493
Speaker 2: drug testing in the Games though, absolutely no drug testing

1392
01:02:23,533 --> 01:02:25,813
Speaker 2: in the Games, but there is medical oversight to make

1393
01:02:25,893 --> 01:02:28,613
Speaker 2: sure that people are healthy and their hearts aren't going

1394
01:02:28,653 --> 01:02:29,133
Speaker 2: to explode.

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01:02:29,253 --> 01:02:29,453
Speaker 12: Yep.

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01:02:30,093 --> 01:02:33,893
Speaker 2: Arguably, I'm not sure if that you can take peds healthily.

1397
01:02:33,973 --> 01:02:35,453
Speaker 2: Someone might be able to argue that point with me.

1398
01:02:36,853 --> 01:02:39,253
Speaker 2: And there's a lot of money involved, a lot of

1399
01:02:39,373 --> 01:02:43,373
Speaker 2: money involved. So I believe they've got swimming, sprints, hurdles,

1400
01:02:43,533 --> 01:02:46,053
Speaker 2: and weightlifting all going ahead in twenty twenty six May

1401
01:02:46,133 --> 01:02:46,493
Speaker 2: next year.

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01:02:46,773 --> 01:02:49,853
Speaker 4: Yeah, I I for one, I will absolutely watch this

1403
01:02:49,973 --> 01:02:53,493
Speaker 4: and I am quietly excited about it. Whether you take

1404
01:02:53,533 --> 01:02:56,093
Speaker 4: it with a grain of salt, their health and safety

1405
01:02:56,213 --> 01:02:58,453
Speaker 4: elements that they'll have there for the drug taking athletes,

1406
01:02:58,613 --> 01:03:00,413
Speaker 4: I mean, I don't know, we have to wait and see.

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01:03:00,773 --> 01:03:03,013
Speaker 4: But the idea of allowing them to take the likes

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01:03:03,053 --> 01:03:06,173
Speaker 4: of EPO, which are famously Lance Armstrong and is Cycling

1409
01:03:06,253 --> 01:03:08,853
Speaker 4: Team used or some of those other elements to see

1410
01:03:08,893 --> 01:03:11,893
Speaker 4: if they can break records and how fast can they go,

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01:03:12,493 --> 01:03:13,453
Speaker 4: So it is compelling.

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01:03:13,573 --> 01:03:17,293
Speaker 2: So you're in the school of how can you know,

1413
01:03:17,573 --> 01:03:21,573
Speaker 2: nature and technology combine to see how far the human

1414
01:03:21,693 --> 01:03:22,213
Speaker 2: form can go?

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Speaker 4: Definitely, because it is volunteeri. You know, they volunteer to

1416
01:03:26,493 --> 01:03:29,173
Speaker 4: to compete in these games, and they are volunteering to

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01:03:29,253 --> 01:03:31,933
Speaker 4: take these drugs. And to me, I actually think there

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01:03:31,973 --> 01:03:34,573
Speaker 4: could be some benefit for humanity out of these games.

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01:03:34,893 --> 01:03:36,813
Speaker 4: I might be a bit naive here, but this is

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01:03:37,093 --> 01:03:40,893
Speaker 4: allowing a situation to showcase what can the human body

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01:03:41,093 --> 01:03:44,693
Speaker 4: achieve with some of these some of these drugs.

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01:03:44,773 --> 01:03:49,053
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what Aaron the Sosa, the guy that's running

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01:03:49,053 --> 01:03:52,853
Speaker 2: at the Presidents and the Enhanced Games, claims that it's

1424
01:03:52,933 --> 01:03:56,333
Speaker 2: kind of like what the Formula one claims that you know,

1425
01:03:56,493 --> 01:03:58,493
Speaker 2: they're pushing to the limits and that can go over

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01:03:58,533 --> 01:04:01,573
Speaker 2: into commercial vehicles. Yeah, and can make the world a

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01:04:01,613 --> 01:04:02,093
Speaker 2: better place.

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Speaker 9: You know.

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01:04:02,333 --> 01:04:04,533
Speaker 2: That's why they're going to the fifty to fifty hybrid model.

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01:04:04,573 --> 01:04:07,253
Speaker 2: They think they can make advancements there. Whether whether it

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01:04:07,333 --> 01:04:11,933
Speaker 2: ever gets grabbed onto by you know, the cars we drive,

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01:04:11,973 --> 01:04:14,613
Speaker 2: who knows, But that's the argument, right, So we can

1433
01:04:14,653 --> 01:04:17,293
Speaker 2: push humans to new levels by trying this, and then

1434
01:04:17,413 --> 01:04:21,013
Speaker 2: maybe there's some advantages medically for everyday people.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Well, how far more can we go?

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01:04:23,093 --> 01:04:26,053
Speaker 4: I mean I remember Roger Banister who was the first

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01:04:26,373 --> 01:04:28,893
Speaker 4: person to crack the four minute mile, and nobody thought

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01:04:28,933 --> 01:04:31,173
Speaker 4: that was possible. Nobody thought any human being could crack

1439
01:04:31,213 --> 01:04:33,493
Speaker 4: a four minute mile. Then he did it, then others

1440
01:04:33,533 --> 01:04:35,213
Speaker 4: started to do it, and now look at it. There

1441
01:04:35,493 --> 01:04:37,533
Speaker 4: are hundreds, if not thousands of people out there that

1442
01:04:37,613 --> 01:04:40,653
Speaker 4: can crack a four minute mile because of advancements and training,

1443
01:04:40,773 --> 01:04:41,933
Speaker 4: advancements in nutration.

1444
01:04:42,253 --> 01:04:44,533
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that's an interesting one that the training

1445
01:04:44,573 --> 01:04:48,013
Speaker 2: and everything has changed. And you know, wealthier countries tend

1446
01:04:48,053 --> 01:04:50,213
Speaker 2: to do better at Olympics because their coaching is better.

1447
01:04:50,333 --> 01:04:54,333
Speaker 2: So there are enharts just by pumping money into the sport.

1448
01:04:54,813 --> 01:04:57,653
Speaker 2: But what does it mean for the people that can

1449
01:04:58,533 --> 01:05:04,453
Speaker 2: run sub form in it themselves? Does that to value

1450
01:05:05,053 --> 01:05:07,533
Speaker 2: their achievement If we're just seeing lots of people doing it,

1451
01:05:07,573 --> 01:05:08,693
Speaker 2: we're pumped up on pads.

1452
01:05:09,213 --> 01:05:09,973
Speaker 3: It's a fair point.

1453
01:05:10,013 --> 01:05:11,853
Speaker 4: I mean, whether you could call it a world record,

1454
01:05:11,933 --> 01:05:14,973
Speaker 4: I think that would be the part that creates proper

1455
01:05:15,093 --> 01:05:18,293
Speaker 4: athletes who would never take a drug in their life

1456
01:05:18,333 --> 01:05:21,413
Speaker 4: and do everything right, the training, the nutrition, devote their

1457
01:05:21,453 --> 01:05:23,533
Speaker 4: life to trying to crack, for example, the sub four

1458
01:05:23,573 --> 01:05:27,173
Speaker 4: minute mile and then you get some has been who

1459
01:05:27,293 --> 01:05:31,053
Speaker 4: juices up and smashes it, absolutely smashes it, and maybe

1460
01:05:31,133 --> 01:05:32,253
Speaker 4: under three minutes, who knows.

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Speaker 8: Well.

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01:05:32,733 --> 01:05:36,693
Speaker 2: I talked to Murraydica, the sports broadcasting legend. You were there, Tyler.

1463
01:05:36,733 --> 01:05:38,053
Speaker 2: I asked him in the lift we just happened to

1464
01:05:38,053 --> 01:05:39,533
Speaker 2: be in the lift before with them, and I said,

1465
01:05:40,053 --> 01:05:44,493
Speaker 2: Enhanced Games yay or nay, Murraydica, and he said yours please.

1466
01:05:44,853 --> 01:05:48,573
Speaker 3: No, he said hard no, hard no. It was quite

1467
01:05:48,693 --> 01:05:50,133
Speaker 3: it was quite scary when he said that each.

1468
01:05:50,093 --> 01:05:52,933
Speaker 2: Yeah, hard no. So the reason why we're talking about

1469
01:05:52,933 --> 01:05:56,813
Speaker 2: this today is because the Enhanced Games has filed an

1470
01:05:56,853 --> 01:06:00,053
Speaker 2: eight hundred million dollar antitrust lawsuit in New York. The

1471
01:06:00,133 --> 01:06:03,933
Speaker 2: defendants are World Aquatics, US Swimming and WADA, accused of

1472
01:06:03,973 --> 01:06:07,333
Speaker 2: illegally pressuring athletes not to compete. So they are going

1473
01:06:07,453 --> 01:06:11,613
Speaker 2: hard on the establishment, and the establishment's going you can't compete.

1474
01:06:11,653 --> 01:06:15,013
Speaker 2: So this argibargie between those two things as you as

1475
01:06:15,053 --> 01:06:18,933
Speaker 2: you would expect with something as intense as the enhancece Games.

1476
01:06:19,053 --> 01:06:19,253
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1477
01:06:19,653 --> 01:06:21,813
Speaker 2: So yeah, I mean, what are the two things?

1478
01:06:21,973 --> 01:06:22,133
Speaker 18: You know?

1479
01:06:22,333 --> 01:06:25,333
Speaker 2: Is it because because you say, like, it's another opportunity

1480
01:06:25,453 --> 01:06:28,973
Speaker 2: for athletes that are for whatever reason haven't had the

1481
01:06:29,053 --> 01:06:31,693
Speaker 2: top right, Yeah, but does that mean it's kind of

1482
01:06:31,733 --> 01:06:36,853
Speaker 2: a situation where they take PIDs when they otherwise wouldn't

1483
01:06:37,333 --> 01:06:39,893
Speaker 2: because they want to have another avenue for their career.

1484
01:06:39,973 --> 01:06:43,453
Speaker 2: There's a lot of money involved, so they end up

1485
01:06:43,493 --> 01:06:48,973
Speaker 2: taking drugs that harm them for money, you know, and

1486
01:06:49,093 --> 01:06:51,173
Speaker 2: so you know that there's all this talk here about

1487
01:06:51,213 --> 01:06:53,773
Speaker 2: the you know, the oversight, the medical oversight and stuff, but.

1488
01:06:54,013 --> 01:06:56,813
Speaker 4: It could put them in a harmful situation. Absolutely ever

1489
01:06:56,973 --> 01:06:59,653
Speaker 4: safe to just slam yourself with PIDs. Oh eight one

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Speaker 4: hundred eighty ten eighty love to hear your thoughts on this.

1491
01:07:02,013 --> 01:07:04,853
Speaker 4: How do you feel about the enhanced Games where athletes

1492
01:07:04,893 --> 01:07:07,613
Speaker 4: will be allowed to take certain drugs so they won't

1493
01:07:07,613 --> 01:07:09,893
Speaker 4: be drug tests. Did you think it goes too far?

1494
01:07:10,013 --> 01:07:10,533
Speaker 3: Do you love it?

1495
01:07:10,613 --> 01:07:13,133
Speaker 4: Will you watch it when it starts in May in

1496
01:07:13,213 --> 01:07:15,013
Speaker 4: Las Vegas? Or do you think it's just a bit sick?

1497
01:07:15,053 --> 01:07:16,613
Speaker 4: We've gone too far? As it bad of the sport.

1498
01:07:16,773 --> 01:07:19,333
Speaker 2: And when they say there's no drug testing, you aren't

1499
01:07:19,773 --> 01:07:22,573
Speaker 2: allowed to be slamming cocaine and heroin, although I'm not

1500
01:07:22,613 --> 01:07:25,173
Speaker 2: sure what hero heroin will to do for you.

1501
01:07:25,213 --> 01:07:30,053
Speaker 4: In one hundred meters it is nineteen to three oh

1502
01:07:30,053 --> 01:07:31,933
Speaker 4: eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is a number to call.

1503
01:07:33,133 --> 01:07:34,733
Speaker 8: A fresh take on talkback.

1504
01:07:34,933 --> 01:07:38,453
Speaker 1: It's Matt Heathen, Taylor Adams afternoons, have your say on

1505
01:07:38,813 --> 01:07:40,853
Speaker 1: eight hundred eighty ten eighty US talks.

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01:07:40,853 --> 01:07:42,173
Speaker 3: They'd be afternoon.

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01:07:42,253 --> 01:07:44,893
Speaker 4: It's seventeen to three and we're talking about the Enhanced Games.

1508
01:07:45,053 --> 01:07:48,613
Speaker 4: It's effectively a new competition for athletes to compete and

1509
01:07:48,653 --> 01:07:51,013
Speaker 4: they won't be drug tested, so they can take almost

1510
01:07:51,093 --> 01:07:54,013
Speaker 4: what are any drunk drug they prefer and see how

1511
01:07:54,573 --> 01:07:55,253
Speaker 4: fast they can go.

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01:07:55,533 --> 01:07:57,413
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I said that, you know the amount of

1513
01:07:57,453 --> 01:08:01,333
Speaker 2: money the country has to pump into its Olympic program

1514
01:08:02,173 --> 01:08:04,733
Speaker 2: is in a way enhancing the athletes. You've got better nutrition,

1515
01:08:05,613 --> 01:08:10,013
Speaker 2: better training techniques, more you know, data, definitely on stuff.

1516
01:08:10,053 --> 01:08:13,093
Speaker 2: But as Jake points out correctly, Hay, Matt, can you

1517
01:08:13,213 --> 01:08:15,613
Speaker 2: have r historically done very well at athletics and hardly

1518
01:08:15,693 --> 01:08:18,133
Speaker 2: a wealthy nation. There's a good point.

1519
01:08:18,213 --> 01:08:21,213
Speaker 4: Yeah, very good at track absolutely, yeah. I mean the

1520
01:08:21,253 --> 01:08:26,212
Speaker 4: other element of this is the doping agencies have struggled

1521
01:08:26,213 --> 01:08:27,892
Speaker 4: to keep up for a long time, and we hear

1522
01:08:28,053 --> 01:08:31,293
Speaker 4: time and time again accidental doping. There was that tennis

1523
01:08:31,333 --> 01:08:35,172
Speaker 4: player who was almost banned and he was certainly fine

1524
01:08:35,293 --> 01:08:37,973
Speaker 4: for having some of the substance that as Messus was

1525
01:08:38,053 --> 01:08:41,933
Speaker 4: using into his system. You get accusations still now on

1526
01:08:42,053 --> 01:08:46,492
Speaker 4: the tour of France of athletes and cyclists using performance

1527
01:08:46,612 --> 01:08:49,253
Speaker 4: enhancing drugs and difficult to prove. I mean Lance Armstrong

1528
01:08:49,333 --> 01:08:51,772
Speaker 4: did it for years until he was eventually found out

1529
01:08:51,772 --> 01:08:52,412
Speaker 4: and had to admit it.

1530
01:08:52,492 --> 01:08:57,412
Speaker 2: Yeah, so it's that final Finding someone in the competition

1531
01:08:57,492 --> 01:09:00,333
Speaker 2: that wasn't drugging to hand the award to was difficult.

1532
01:09:00,333 --> 01:09:02,133
Speaker 2: You had to go a long way down the track.

1533
01:09:02,692 --> 01:09:06,372
Speaker 2: And that's kind of another thing as people think that

1534
01:09:06,412 --> 01:09:08,812
Speaker 2: if you just took peds then you would performance and

1535
01:09:08,853 --> 01:09:10,812
Speaker 2: hunting drugs, you would suddenly be an amazing athlete.

1536
01:09:11,452 --> 01:09:11,732
Speaker 8: Not so.

1537
01:09:12,013 --> 01:09:13,572
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm not going to be able to suddenly

1538
01:09:13,652 --> 01:09:17,972
Speaker 2: run faster than you's on bolt because I am taking pets.

1539
01:09:18,213 --> 01:09:20,452
Speaker 2: You know, you'd have to have some natural ability as well.

1540
01:09:20,572 --> 01:09:23,252
Speaker 2: Have you seen that documentary Icarus on Netflix?

1541
01:09:23,333 --> 01:09:23,933
Speaker 6: I have not know.

1542
01:09:24,173 --> 01:09:27,812
Speaker 2: So it's about a cyclist who decides to try and

1543
01:09:28,013 --> 01:09:30,452
Speaker 2: take performance some drugs to see how far he can

1544
01:09:30,492 --> 01:09:33,052
Speaker 2: push it for a documentary. You know, he's not cheating,

1545
01:09:33,333 --> 01:09:35,452
Speaker 2: it's an amateur competitions, but he just wants to see

1546
01:09:36,933 --> 01:09:38,772
Speaker 2: how far he can push it, and he finds that

1547
01:09:38,853 --> 01:09:41,972
Speaker 2: he can't push it that far. He's disappointed with how

1548
01:09:42,213 --> 01:09:44,133
Speaker 2: far he can push it. And it was around the

1549
01:09:44,173 --> 01:09:46,653
Speaker 2: sort of old Lance Armstross thing. It's a great documentary.

1550
01:09:46,692 --> 01:09:51,293
Speaker 2: It ends up with him helping to, you know, save

1551
01:09:51,532 --> 01:09:56,253
Speaker 2: a Russian scientist from from the authorities over there and

1552
01:09:56,253 --> 01:09:57,213
Speaker 2: smuggle him into the States.

1553
01:09:57,213 --> 01:09:57,812
Speaker 3: But it's a great thing.

1554
01:09:58,532 --> 01:10:00,732
Speaker 2: Hey, Matt and Tyler, take a look at beautiful flow

1555
01:10:00,812 --> 01:10:03,053
Speaker 2: jo winning at all costs. You lost your life for

1556
01:10:03,133 --> 01:10:06,812
Speaker 2: the win. That's from Kristen. Yeah, so you know she

1557
01:10:07,093 --> 01:10:11,772
Speaker 2: was the American track and field athletes. Yeah, that was.

1558
01:10:13,372 --> 01:10:16,772
Speaker 2: But the thing what you'd say about that is in

1559
01:10:16,893 --> 01:10:20,892
Speaker 2: defense of the Enhanced Games and Aaron Desoza the Enhanced

1560
01:10:20,933 --> 01:10:23,412
Speaker 2: Games prison is he's saying that the PIDs would be

1561
01:10:23,412 --> 01:10:25,173
Speaker 2: out in the open, so it wouldn't be dodgy, it

1562
01:10:25,213 --> 01:10:29,612
Speaker 2: wouldn't be back room, it wouldn't be having to hide

1563
01:10:29,652 --> 01:10:31,893
Speaker 2: it from the medical staff. It were all out in

1564
01:10:31,933 --> 01:10:34,532
Speaker 2: the open so they could monitor you and make sure

1565
01:10:34,772 --> 01:10:37,452
Speaker 2: that terrible things were happening to you. But right now,

1566
01:10:37,612 --> 01:10:40,492
Speaker 2: when if you're trying to dope illegally in the Games,

1567
01:10:40,612 --> 01:10:44,333
Speaker 2: that's back room that's much more dangerous.

1568
01:10:44,372 --> 01:10:46,372
Speaker 3: Arguably, Yeah, and I wonder in that situation.

1569
01:10:46,492 --> 01:10:48,973
Speaker 4: We all remember the doping scandal with Valerie Adams and

1570
01:10:49,173 --> 01:10:52,532
Speaker 4: the woman from Balarus Obstechuk was her name, who was

1571
01:10:52,692 --> 01:10:55,492
Speaker 4: clearly dope in It was found out where that someone

1572
01:10:55,652 --> 01:10:58,132
Speaker 4: like Obsterechuk, who was never going to compete with Valerie,

1573
01:10:58,173 --> 01:11:00,173
Speaker 4: she knew it, that's why she had to dope, would

1574
01:11:00,213 --> 01:11:02,532
Speaker 4: say I'm not going to compete in the Olympics. I'll

1575
01:11:02,532 --> 01:11:05,053
Speaker 4: just go to this enhance game, dope up as much

1576
01:11:05,093 --> 01:11:06,932
Speaker 4: as I like, and I might win five hundred thousand

1577
01:11:06,933 --> 01:11:09,692
Speaker 4: dollars a year. We maybe that will stop these idiots

1578
01:11:09,732 --> 01:11:11,172
Speaker 4: actually competing in the Olympics.

1579
01:11:11,333 --> 01:11:13,812
Speaker 2: Phillip says, I want to see a weed race first

1580
01:11:13,893 --> 01:11:16,333
Speaker 2: to the snacks over a mile.

1581
01:11:16,572 --> 01:11:17,053
Speaker 3: I'll watch that.

1582
01:11:17,652 --> 01:11:18,892
Speaker 2: Graham, welcome to the show.

1583
01:11:19,812 --> 01:11:20,293
Speaker 17: There you go to.

1584
01:11:20,692 --> 01:11:22,532
Speaker 2: How are you your thoughts on the enhanced games?

1585
01:11:23,372 --> 01:11:23,772
Speaker 24: I like it.

1586
01:11:24,053 --> 01:11:26,053
Speaker 16: I like it, but for a different reason, and you're

1587
01:11:26,053 --> 01:11:28,652
Speaker 16: almost touching on it. I think it might expose just

1588
01:11:28,732 --> 01:11:30,972
Speaker 16: tre many athletes day using drugs. I mean, what if

1589
01:11:31,013 --> 01:11:33,893
Speaker 16: no records are broken, what if nobody can reach the

1590
01:11:33,973 --> 01:11:35,532
Speaker 16: levels of so called clean athletes?

1591
01:11:35,772 --> 01:11:38,732
Speaker 3: That would be awkward, very awkward and.

1592
01:11:38,732 --> 01:11:39,932
Speaker 16: Maybe that's part of the lawss.

1593
01:11:40,893 --> 01:11:44,932
Speaker 4: Yeah, because I was just going to say, I think

1594
01:11:44,933 --> 01:11:46,772
Speaker 4: that that that might be possible because some of the

1595
01:11:46,853 --> 01:11:50,413
Speaker 4: athletes that they've signed up, they have been somewhat successful.

1596
01:11:50,452 --> 01:11:54,012
Speaker 4: They've competed in the World Games in their various sports

1597
01:11:54,213 --> 01:11:56,173
Speaker 4: and in some of them have been Olympians, but they've

1598
01:11:56,213 --> 01:11:58,692
Speaker 4: never been medallists. So perhaps that is You know, if

1599
01:11:58,692 --> 01:12:01,852
Speaker 4: you if you're swimming, even if you're juiced up, will

1600
01:12:01,893 --> 01:12:03,692
Speaker 4: you ever get to a time like Michael Phelps?

1601
01:12:04,772 --> 01:12:06,852
Speaker 16: Probably not? And then then you've got to ask the question, right,

1602
01:12:06,893 --> 01:12:08,492
Speaker 16: what are we watching in the first place? Anyway? It's

1603
01:12:08,532 --> 01:12:10,452
Speaker 16: just entertainment treated their way.

1604
01:12:11,213 --> 01:12:11,452
Speaker 8: Yeah.

1605
01:12:11,933 --> 01:12:16,053
Speaker 2: Do you think it would take away from the Olympics

1606
01:12:16,133 --> 01:12:17,972
Speaker 2: if it was running? Do you think both events could

1607
01:12:18,093 --> 01:12:19,253
Speaker 2: could exist at the same time.

1608
01:12:20,572 --> 01:12:21,053
Speaker 5: I think the.

1609
01:12:21,053 --> 01:12:23,572
Speaker 16: Olympics heavily juice anyway. So I think it just exposed

1610
01:12:23,612 --> 01:12:25,572
Speaker 16: the hypocrisy of everything and maybe you've got to tear

1611
01:12:25,612 --> 01:12:27,532
Speaker 16: up to pieces and start again. I think it's a

1612
01:12:27,532 --> 01:12:30,333
Speaker 16: good thing for that right as it's a catalystic change.

1613
01:12:30,333 --> 01:12:30,692
Speaker 6: Possibly.

1614
01:12:31,013 --> 01:12:34,052
Speaker 2: What would you say if what sports do you follow? Graham?

1615
01:12:34,853 --> 01:12:37,253
Speaker 16: Oh, I'm an eclectic sports fan of everything at high level.

1616
01:12:37,293 --> 01:12:43,973
Speaker 2: So okay rugby, Yeah, sure, would you support you know,

1617
01:12:44,173 --> 01:12:45,812
Speaker 2: a super super rugby competition?

1618
01:12:45,933 --> 01:12:46,173
Speaker 9: It was.

1619
01:12:48,093 --> 01:12:48,652
Speaker 5: That's my point.

1620
01:12:48,853 --> 01:12:50,293
Speaker 16: That's kind of the point I'm trying to make is

1621
01:12:50,612 --> 01:12:52,093
Speaker 16: what makes you think they're not already? I mean you

1622
01:12:52,173 --> 01:12:54,772
Speaker 16: just said the South African prop throwne out for them, right, Yeah,

1623
01:12:54,812 --> 01:12:57,612
Speaker 16: there's a test and International Rugby Board did a test

1624
01:12:57,652 --> 01:13:02,092
Speaker 16: and under twenties in South Africa and found almost everybody

1625
01:13:02,173 --> 01:13:03,412
Speaker 16: was performing hunting drugs.

1626
01:13:04,093 --> 01:13:04,652
Speaker 5: You look that up.

1627
01:13:04,692 --> 01:13:06,572
Speaker 16: I mean that's well documented so you can look their

1628
01:13:06,612 --> 01:13:09,452
Speaker 16: on up. So I mean my thought would be most

1629
01:13:09,492 --> 01:13:11,892
Speaker 16: international athletes of the highest order are probably.

1630
01:13:11,772 --> 01:13:14,412
Speaker 5: Just up right what you exposure?

1631
01:13:14,652 --> 01:13:17,052
Speaker 3: Yeah, what are you? What are you thinking about this lawsuit?

1632
01:13:17,173 --> 01:13:20,173
Speaker 4: So they're going after the World Doping Organization and some

1633
01:13:20,253 --> 01:13:23,732
Speaker 4: other sports bodies who are trying to enforce rules that

1634
01:13:23,853 --> 01:13:26,612
Speaker 4: any athlete that competes in the enhanced game will never

1635
01:13:26,772 --> 01:13:30,453
Speaker 4: get to compete in so called natural competitions.

1636
01:13:30,492 --> 01:13:31,253
Speaker 3: What's your thoughts on that?

1637
01:13:32,412 --> 01:13:35,532
Speaker 16: Well, I think that's probably a way of trying to

1638
01:13:35,572 --> 01:13:37,652
Speaker 16: slow it all down so it don't be exposed. Right,

1639
01:13:37,732 --> 01:13:40,652
Speaker 16: If you're a you might come out of this looking

1640
01:13:40,732 --> 01:13:44,852
Speaker 16: extremely incompetent. If the weightlifter can't lift more weight than

1641
01:13:44,893 --> 01:13:46,892
Speaker 16: the Olympic champion who's supposed to be cloned. You've got

1642
01:13:46,973 --> 01:13:49,412
Speaker 16: to ask the question, and then you go, what is

1643
01:13:49,452 --> 01:13:51,692
Speaker 16: the sug testing all about anyway? And people are finding

1644
01:13:51,732 --> 01:13:55,973
Speaker 16: ways to cheat. You can only treat drugs on knowing drugs, right,

1645
01:13:56,452 --> 01:13:58,372
Speaker 16: So if you change the formula for a drug like

1646
01:13:58,412 --> 01:14:00,452
Speaker 16: a PP, you just change the formulas slightly, the test

1647
01:14:00,452 --> 01:14:00,772
Speaker 16: will show.

1648
01:14:02,133 --> 01:14:05,772
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's interesting when they down the track they make

1649
01:14:05,893 --> 01:14:08,812
Speaker 2: drugs illegal backwards as they find them out. And then

1650
01:14:08,893 --> 01:14:11,253
Speaker 2: so someone took something that got around the regulations and

1651
01:14:11,293 --> 01:14:13,772
Speaker 2: then they still still ping them in the advance when

1652
01:14:13,772 --> 01:14:15,652
Speaker 2: they find it because they keep hold of the blood samples.

1653
01:14:16,612 --> 01:14:18,372
Speaker 16: Yeah, but too late, because you've already got the money

1654
01:14:18,412 --> 01:14:20,812
Speaker 16: on the accolades and you've moved on life an example.

1655
01:14:22,133 --> 01:14:23,692
Speaker 18: You know it's all there.

1656
01:14:23,772 --> 01:14:25,133
Speaker 16: It's moved on, doesn't matter.

1657
01:14:25,532 --> 01:14:27,092
Speaker 2: The first sign of that was that he was running

1658
01:14:27,093 --> 01:14:33,772
Speaker 2: with the sunglasses on. Thanks for your cool, Graham. If

1659
01:14:33,812 --> 01:14:36,692
Speaker 2: they are competing separate games from normal athletes, I don't

1660
01:14:36,692 --> 01:14:42,253
Speaker 2: see anything wrong with it, says this Texter. Sounds like

1661
01:14:42,333 --> 01:14:45,692
Speaker 2: a different version of the Biggest Loser, the Biggest Open.

1662
01:14:46,253 --> 01:14:50,452
Speaker 2: I'm not convinced that you would get serious athletes and involved.

1663
01:14:50,492 --> 01:14:52,532
Speaker 2: You know, it's kind of reminds me of you know,

1664
01:14:52,652 --> 01:14:56,812
Speaker 2: there's the NFL and then there was the XFL and

1665
01:14:57,133 --> 01:15:02,093
Speaker 2: the XFL which was you know, run by by w

1666
01:15:02,412 --> 01:15:05,213
Speaker 2: w F go what's his name McMahan, and it was

1667
01:15:05,253 --> 01:15:09,372
Speaker 2: no good because you know, the real absolute peak want

1668
01:15:09,452 --> 01:15:13,013
Speaker 2: to want to perform in the absolute you know, the

1669
01:15:13,293 --> 01:15:16,852
Speaker 2: biggest show, the one with the mana Yeah, the NFL, yeah, yeah,

1670
01:15:16,853 --> 01:15:18,932
Speaker 2: because that's what they grow up dreaming. You know, kids

1671
01:15:18,973 --> 01:15:23,692
Speaker 2: don't grow up dreaming of winning a Enhanced Games medal

1672
01:15:24,213 --> 01:15:26,372
Speaker 2: doped up to the eyeballs, right, So you're only going

1673
01:15:26,412 --> 01:15:30,132
Speaker 2: to get tier you know, several tier back athletes involved,

1674
01:15:30,452 --> 01:15:31,652
Speaker 2: and you're not. I don't think you can be able

1675
01:15:31,692 --> 01:15:34,213
Speaker 2: to dope them up enough to beat the really, really

1676
01:15:34,213 --> 01:15:37,012
Speaker 2: good athletes. So it's and as you said before, Tyler,

1677
01:15:37,933 --> 01:15:40,093
Speaker 2: what happens if they run the Enhanced Games then and

1678
01:15:40,293 --> 01:15:44,972
Speaker 2: the people are running you know, twelve twelve second one

1679
01:15:45,093 --> 01:15:45,652
Speaker 2: hundred meters.

1680
01:15:46,173 --> 01:15:48,173
Speaker 3: Yeah, that would be real awkward. But could you see

1681
01:15:48,213 --> 01:15:48,892
Speaker 3: a situation.

1682
01:15:49,333 --> 01:15:52,173
Speaker 4: I think Usain Bolt's long retired or Michael Phelps doesn't

1683
01:15:52,173 --> 01:15:54,452
Speaker 4: swimming anymore, but they might come a point those guys

1684
01:15:54,492 --> 01:15:57,412
Speaker 4: don't need the money, granted, but you know those superstars

1685
01:15:57,452 --> 01:15:59,492
Speaker 4: are old and they've run out of a bit of

1686
01:15:59,572 --> 01:16:02,572
Speaker 4: cash and they get roped because money talks. You look

1687
01:16:02,572 --> 01:16:04,173
Speaker 4: at the liv golf tournament, so they look at that

1688
01:16:04,293 --> 01:16:06,572
Speaker 4: five hundred thousand dollars year wear so and they're blown

1689
01:16:06,612 --> 01:16:09,053
Speaker 4: it all along gambling or a fantastic life after their

1690
01:16:09,093 --> 01:16:11,973
Speaker 4: superstar status and say I'm coming back. I'm coming back

1691
01:16:12,013 --> 01:16:13,892
Speaker 4: to give it a shot. Give a fifty year old

1692
01:16:13,933 --> 01:16:16,492
Speaker 4: Ben Johnson another guy I'd love to see that. I

1693
01:16:16,572 --> 01:16:19,572
Speaker 4: can't wait to see giant, furiously angry men and like

1694
01:16:19,893 --> 01:16:24,452
Speaker 4: on bicycles suddenly turning progressively anger and anger, and it

1695
01:16:24,612 --> 01:16:25,852
Speaker 4: ending up in boxing and wrestling.

1696
01:16:26,612 --> 01:16:28,812
Speaker 2: I mean, roid rage is a real thing. Absolute Reid

1697
01:16:28,893 --> 01:16:29,412
Speaker 2: rage is real.

1698
01:16:29,532 --> 01:16:29,692
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1699
01:16:29,772 --> 01:16:31,812
Speaker 3: Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number of core.

1700
01:16:31,853 --> 01:16:33,812
Speaker 4: How do you feel about the idea of drugged up

1701
01:16:33,853 --> 01:16:34,852
Speaker 4: athletes competing?

1702
01:16:35,412 --> 01:16:37,652
Speaker 3: Really? Can you get your views? It is eight to three?

1703
01:16:38,133 --> 01:16:40,732
Speaker 2: What would this mean for Reagun? Would that improve her performance?

1704
01:16:41,053 --> 01:16:41,293
Speaker 3: Nothing?

1705
01:16:41,293 --> 01:16:41,692
Speaker 6: Do that?

1706
01:16:42,293 --> 01:16:45,933
Speaker 1: No, the issues that affect you and a bit of

1707
01:16:46,013 --> 01:16:50,213
Speaker 1: fun along the way. Mad Heathen Taylor Adams Afternoons news talks.

1708
01:16:50,213 --> 01:16:50,532
Speaker 1: That'd be.

1709
01:16:52,492 --> 01:16:55,053
Speaker 4: Afternoon we're talking about the enhanced game. This is a

1710
01:16:55,213 --> 01:16:57,973
Speaker 4: new competition starts in May and Las Vegas, and the

1711
01:16:58,093 --> 01:17:01,012
Speaker 4: athletes can take whatever drug a drug they want within reason.

1712
01:17:01,053 --> 01:17:02,132
Speaker 3: They won't be drug tested.

1713
01:17:02,293 --> 01:17:05,932
Speaker 4: So it will be I think, watched by a lot

1714
01:17:05,973 --> 01:17:07,732
Speaker 4: of people, but whether it's the right thing for sport

1715
01:17:07,772 --> 01:17:09,052
Speaker 4: A one hundred eighteen eighty.

1716
01:17:09,013 --> 01:17:10,892
Speaker 2: Can't wait to see the final of the one hundred

1717
01:17:10,933 --> 01:17:14,772
Speaker 2: meters on fentanyl now as someone that was on fentanyl

1718
01:17:14,812 --> 01:17:17,412
Speaker 2: the other day after in a procedure to say one

1719
01:17:17,452 --> 01:17:19,133
Speaker 2: thing's for sure, they would have smiles on their faces,

1720
01:17:19,173 --> 01:17:21,213
Speaker 2: that'd be very happy, but they would not be moving

1721
01:17:21,293 --> 01:17:23,173
Speaker 2: fast in my experience, and they would not remember the

1722
01:17:23,253 --> 01:17:23,852
Speaker 2: race afterwards.

1723
01:17:23,893 --> 01:17:26,772
Speaker 3: I'd still watch it. Oh, one hundred and eighty ten

1724
01:17:26,812 --> 01:17:28,213
Speaker 3: eighty is the number to call.

1725
01:17:29,253 --> 01:17:32,852
Speaker 2: Top Australian swimmer James Magnuson is doing it because if

1726
01:17:33,173 --> 01:17:35,253
Speaker 2: he breaks fifty meters world record he will get one

1727
01:17:35,293 --> 01:17:35,892
Speaker 2: million dollars.

1728
01:17:36,253 --> 01:17:39,532
Speaker 3: Yeah, there we go. Yeah, I mean yeah, there's.

1729
01:17:39,412 --> 01:17:41,213
Speaker 2: There's definitely a financial incentive to give.

1730
01:17:41,053 --> 01:17:41,412
Speaker 3: It a game.

1731
01:17:41,532 --> 01:17:45,293
Speaker 4: Yeah, and this one, guys, let's experiment in New Zealand

1732
01:17:45,333 --> 01:17:47,652
Speaker 4: induce everyone up to make New Zealand an interesting place

1733
01:17:47,732 --> 01:17:50,932
Speaker 4: for tourists to visit would help the GDP maybe, yeah,

1734
01:17:51,053 --> 01:17:52,253
Speaker 4: well interesting point.

1735
01:17:52,492 --> 01:17:54,213
Speaker 2: You could argue that would mess everyone up and make

1736
01:17:54,213 --> 01:17:54,892
Speaker 2: it interesting as well.

1737
01:17:55,213 --> 01:17:55,692
Speaker 3: Exactly.

1738
01:17:55,893 --> 01:17:57,812
Speaker 2: I mean there is interesting and then there's terrifying.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely right.

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Speaker 4: Coming up after the news, we are going to chat

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Speaker 4: to Eric Murray, an Olympic gold medalist of course, one

1742
01:18:05,293 --> 01:18:08,852
Speaker 4: of our best rowa and superstar. Gonna have a chat

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01:18:08,893 --> 01:18:12,293
Speaker 4: about his thoughts about the Enhanced Games. Very interesting, So

1744
01:18:12,412 --> 01:18:15,013
Speaker 4: looking forward to having Eric Murray on the show. And

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01:18:15,133 --> 01:18:16,572
Speaker 4: we're keen to hear from you. Oh, one hundred and

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01:18:16,572 --> 01:18:18,372
Speaker 4: eighty ten eighty is number to call, nine two nine

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01:18:18,452 --> 01:18:20,652
Speaker 4: till it's the text number. New Sport and weather is

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01:18:20,772 --> 01:18:22,852
Speaker 4: coming up. You're listening to matt and Tyler. Hope you're

1749
01:18:22,853 --> 01:18:25,452
Speaker 4: having a great afternoon. Stay right here, we'll be back

1750
01:18:25,692 --> 01:18:41,213
Speaker 4: very surely. Your new home are in sateful and entertaining talk.

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01:18:41,492 --> 01:18:46,012
Speaker 4: It's Mattie and Taylor Adams Afternoons on News Talk Savvy.

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01:18:46,732 --> 01:18:49,053
Speaker 3: Very good afternoon, sire. It is six past three.

1753
01:18:49,173 --> 01:18:51,412
Speaker 4: So we have been talking about the Enhanced Games, an

1754
01:18:51,452 --> 01:18:54,253
Speaker 4: event where athletes will not be drug tested. So a

1755
01:18:54,333 --> 01:18:56,972
Speaker 4: great man to chat to on this is Eric Murray,

1756
01:18:57,013 --> 01:18:59,612
Speaker 4: one of our sporting greats, a double Olympic gold medal

1757
01:18:59,692 --> 01:19:03,412
Speaker 4: champion and an astonishing eight gold medals at the World Champs.

1758
01:19:03,452 --> 01:19:05,492
Speaker 4: He centainly knows a hell of a lot about elite

1759
01:19:05,532 --> 01:19:08,692
Speaker 4: sport and he joins us, now get a Eric team.

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01:19:08,692 --> 01:19:11,133
Speaker 2: How are we very good? Now you've got to the

1761
01:19:11,293 --> 01:19:14,092
Speaker 2: very top of a clean sport. What's your gut reaction

1762
01:19:14,253 --> 01:19:16,412
Speaker 2: to the idea of a drugged up enhanced games with

1763
01:19:16,492 --> 01:19:17,333
Speaker 2: everyone on the pads?

1764
01:19:18,412 --> 01:19:21,253
Speaker 6: Well, it depends if you're taking the pits right and

1765
01:19:21,452 --> 01:19:23,893
Speaker 6: going we're going to absolutely choice to the eyeballs and

1766
01:19:24,293 --> 01:19:27,333
Speaker 6: like probably go on the dangerous side of the of

1767
01:19:27,492 --> 01:19:29,772
Speaker 6: the enhancement, or are you going to push it to

1768
01:19:29,893 --> 01:19:32,972
Speaker 6: a level which I guess just crosses the line from

1769
01:19:33,053 --> 01:19:36,732
Speaker 6: what there's currently now if that makes any sense.

1770
01:19:37,652 --> 01:19:40,772
Speaker 2: Yes, So they claim that there'll be medical oversight and

1771
01:19:41,253 --> 01:19:43,133
Speaker 2: that you know, won't be as risky as the drug

1772
01:19:43,253 --> 01:19:47,293
Speaker 2: taking that takes happens illegally in sports at the moment.

1773
01:19:47,572 --> 01:19:51,572
Speaker 2: So you know, but I mean, are there are any

1774
01:19:51,652 --> 01:19:54,093
Speaker 2: pads safe? I mean, you know, I mean, I don't

1775
01:19:54,133 --> 01:19:56,053
Speaker 2: think it doesn't turn out that great for your heart

1776
01:19:56,093 --> 01:19:56,692
Speaker 2: generally doesn't.

1777
01:19:57,572 --> 01:20:01,133
Speaker 6: Well no, but you know, I guess under controlled supervision.

1778
01:20:01,692 --> 01:20:04,692
Speaker 6: The reason that there's the reason that there's things in

1779
01:20:04,812 --> 01:20:07,572
Speaker 6: place to stop I guess enhancement is because how far

1780
01:20:07,652 --> 01:20:10,172
Speaker 6: can you push it? Yeah, and that's and that's that's

1781
01:20:10,253 --> 01:20:12,972
Speaker 6: the line, because you know, you're not allowed to currently

1782
01:20:13,093 --> 01:20:15,933
Speaker 6: with wider and stuff. You're not allowed to be on

1783
01:20:16,173 --> 01:20:19,532
Speaker 6: drips or your IV lines after you've trained or anything

1784
01:20:19,612 --> 01:20:22,133
Speaker 6: like that. Now, how much how much effect would that have?

1785
01:20:22,492 --> 01:20:22,612
Speaker 21: Right?

1786
01:20:23,093 --> 01:20:25,893
Speaker 6: You know, taking taking your red blood cells and you

1787
01:20:25,973 --> 01:20:28,092
Speaker 6: know the blood doping and putting that back and obviously

1788
01:20:28,213 --> 01:20:31,293
Speaker 6: had a great effect for old Lance Armstrong. So if

1789
01:20:31,333 --> 01:20:33,932
Speaker 6: you did if you did that under supervision, how much

1790
01:20:34,013 --> 01:20:34,652
Speaker 6: more does that add?

1791
01:20:34,973 --> 01:20:35,133
Speaker 9: You know?

1792
01:20:35,452 --> 01:20:37,893
Speaker 6: But when you're getting into I'm going to be on

1793
01:20:38,133 --> 01:20:40,572
Speaker 6: growth hormones and I'm going to put the steroids up

1794
01:20:40,612 --> 01:20:43,092
Speaker 6: to the eyeballs and that sort of thing, there's obviously

1795
01:20:43,213 --> 01:20:46,412
Speaker 6: going to be effect to your body. And that's the issue. Yeah.

1796
01:20:46,853 --> 01:20:50,253
Speaker 2: Now, rowing isn't one of the sports that's that's in

1797
01:20:50,333 --> 01:20:52,852
Speaker 2: the twenty twenty six enhance Games. But do you think

1798
01:20:52,973 --> 01:20:55,092
Speaker 2: enhance rowing's rowan would break records?

1799
01:20:55,133 --> 01:20:55,412
Speaker 6: Or is this?

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01:20:55,572 --> 01:20:56,612
Speaker 2: Is it more than that?

1801
01:20:56,853 --> 01:20:57,133
Speaker 6: Isn't it?

1802
01:20:57,253 --> 01:20:59,893
Speaker 2: Timing and race management and being sync and sync with

1803
01:20:59,973 --> 01:21:02,093
Speaker 2: your partner and all that kind of stuff more important.

1804
01:21:01,772 --> 01:21:02,093
Speaker 5: In a way.

1805
01:21:02,893 --> 01:21:06,293
Speaker 6: Oh absolutely. And the thing is that there's there's quite

1806
01:21:06,293 --> 01:21:09,253
Speaker 6: a few sports where if you just take all of

1807
01:21:09,293 --> 01:21:11,492
Speaker 6: that into the account, you know, and you're going say

1808
01:21:11,532 --> 01:21:14,213
Speaker 6: weightlifting or sprinting that type of thing, you've got a

1809
01:21:14,412 --> 01:21:18,572
Speaker 6: very limited aspect of the technical site, which means that, yeah,

1810
01:21:18,612 --> 01:21:20,572
Speaker 6: you can pump it up and get really strong and

1811
01:21:20,812 --> 01:21:23,452
Speaker 6: you know, or you could throw shot puts or jablin's

1812
01:21:23,492 --> 01:21:25,293
Speaker 6: quite far that type of thing, but there's still an

1813
01:21:25,333 --> 01:21:28,013
Speaker 6: element of technical involvement whereas you know, you get to

1814
01:21:28,133 --> 01:21:30,692
Speaker 6: things like rowing or kayaking that type of thing, there's

1815
01:21:30,732 --> 01:21:33,732
Speaker 6: a huge amount of technical component that comes with what

1816
01:21:33,812 --> 01:21:36,732
Speaker 6: you're doing. And so yes, there will be a benefit

1817
01:21:36,812 --> 01:21:39,532
Speaker 6: for you being super fatal, super strong, but if you

1818
01:21:39,812 --> 01:21:41,092
Speaker 6: if you can't row, for shit.

1819
01:21:44,772 --> 01:21:48,052
Speaker 2: So it might be more about someone who is saying

1820
01:21:48,173 --> 01:21:50,893
Speaker 2: behind behind you and was never going to beat you

1821
01:21:51,213 --> 01:21:53,572
Speaker 2: and looks at it and goes, well, I'm not a

1822
01:21:53,692 --> 01:21:57,333
Speaker 2: chance here, but I've got some skills, so then I'll

1823
01:21:57,372 --> 01:21:59,532
Speaker 2: go to the enhanced games. If you see what I'm saying.

1824
01:22:00,093 --> 01:22:02,973
Speaker 6: Yeah, absolutely, and I think that is you know, I

1825
01:22:03,853 --> 01:22:07,652
Speaker 6: still think that we're not you know, we're I do

1826
01:22:07,732 --> 01:22:09,652
Speaker 6: want to cross a here, but I still think that

1827
01:22:09,732 --> 01:22:13,133
Speaker 6: we're not quite getting to what I believe we could

1828
01:22:13,173 --> 01:22:17,452
Speaker 6: with human performance currently. But of course, where do you

1829
01:22:17,812 --> 01:22:19,253
Speaker 6: like the problem is you're going to draw a line.

1830
01:22:19,293 --> 01:22:22,093
Speaker 6: You know, it's like, we can't we can't take steroids

1831
01:22:22,173 --> 01:22:26,492
Speaker 6: to and taking steroids isn't horrifically bad if you're taking

1832
01:22:26,532 --> 01:22:29,012
Speaker 6: them at a at a dosage, or at a level

1833
01:22:29,093 --> 01:22:31,253
Speaker 6: or the type of steroid you're having for recovery, because

1834
01:22:31,532 --> 01:22:33,572
Speaker 6: I guess what the common myth is that everybody thinks

1835
01:22:33,612 --> 01:22:35,572
Speaker 6: you just take steroids and you get really big and massive.

1836
01:22:35,933 --> 01:22:37,932
Speaker 6: But all the steroids is there to help you recover.

1837
01:22:38,612 --> 01:22:41,652
Speaker 6: So you're taking it, you're recovering quicker. You get on

1838
01:22:41,732 --> 01:22:44,453
Speaker 6: an IV line, you're recovering quicker. You take a corterzone

1839
01:22:44,492 --> 01:22:47,772
Speaker 6: injection because you've done an injury. It helps the recovery quicker. Right,

1840
01:22:47,853 --> 01:22:50,253
Speaker 6: So there's all of these things where yeah, you can

1841
01:22:50,452 --> 01:22:54,452
Speaker 6: you can help recover the body quicker, which are currently

1842
01:22:54,612 --> 01:22:57,372
Speaker 6: not allowed. But then as I've said, you know, there's

1843
01:22:57,572 --> 01:23:01,013
Speaker 6: there's stepping the line even further and saying right, we're

1844
01:23:01,053 --> 01:23:04,732
Speaker 6: on growth or moone, we're off anybody anabolic steroids which

1845
01:23:04,732 --> 01:23:06,492
Speaker 6: you're going to make you really big and strong and

1846
01:23:06,532 --> 01:23:09,412
Speaker 6: that type of thing. So really, you know, it's weird

1847
01:23:09,452 --> 01:23:12,492
Speaker 6: as I'm drawing, and even with most athletes now, you know,

1848
01:23:12,652 --> 01:23:14,492
Speaker 6: like you're pushing it to as much as you can

1849
01:23:15,173 --> 01:23:18,013
Speaker 6: with the current regulations and guidelines. So it's like, you know,

1850
01:23:18,173 --> 01:23:20,852
Speaker 6: you can still take caffeine currently. You know, if you

1851
01:23:20,973 --> 01:23:24,972
Speaker 6: need if you need ventilin for your supposed sports induced asthma,

1852
01:23:25,053 --> 01:23:26,652
Speaker 6: you're allowed it. You know, like if you need a

1853
01:23:26,732 --> 01:23:30,572
Speaker 6: cortizone for an injury, you can get it under restricted circumstances.

1854
01:23:30,652 --> 01:23:32,812
Speaker 6: So there's things that are currently there. But if you

1855
01:23:32,973 --> 01:23:35,492
Speaker 6: just opened up that ballpark, it's like, okay, where would

1856
01:23:35,532 --> 01:23:36,972
Speaker 6: we start jumping to already?

1857
01:23:37,652 --> 01:23:39,213
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's interesting. I've go to made his far from

1858
01:23:39,253 --> 01:23:41,012
Speaker 2: an athlete and he's on the royds for his exma,

1859
01:23:41,093 --> 01:23:42,253
Speaker 2: But that's a totally different issue.

1860
01:23:42,492 --> 01:23:46,372
Speaker 4: It certainly is so Eric the guy that's funding this,

1861
01:23:46,572 --> 01:23:50,053
Speaker 4: Aaron Desuza, he says, and I think he's genuine about this,

1862
01:23:50,532 --> 01:23:52,892
Speaker 4: that he thinks that part of this will be scientific

1863
01:23:53,013 --> 01:23:55,893
Speaker 4: discovery about finding that extra ed and there might be

1864
01:23:56,053 --> 01:23:57,972
Speaker 4: some good that comes out of it. Do you buy

1865
01:23:58,053 --> 01:24:00,333
Speaker 4: that or do you think this is just an exhibition

1866
01:24:00,452 --> 01:24:01,253
Speaker 4: freak show if you will.

1867
01:24:02,213 --> 01:24:04,612
Speaker 6: No, I think there is because at the moment, you know,

1868
01:24:04,812 --> 01:24:09,932
Speaker 6: every single sporting person in the world is using sports physiologist, right,

1869
01:24:10,412 --> 01:24:14,372
Speaker 6: and so they're working with your human physiology to train

1870
01:24:14,532 --> 01:24:17,293
Speaker 6: you in the in the right way, in the way

1871
01:24:17,372 --> 01:24:21,133
Speaker 6: that you can using and like not to get like

1872
01:24:21,293 --> 01:24:24,253
Speaker 6: super complicated here by these things called training stress scores,

1873
01:24:25,053 --> 01:24:27,732
Speaker 6: you know, and so heart rate variability, So how you

1874
01:24:27,853 --> 01:24:30,412
Speaker 6: wake up to how you can train today? You know,

1875
01:24:30,532 --> 01:24:32,692
Speaker 6: how much training stress have you put on your body

1876
01:24:32,732 --> 01:24:35,412
Speaker 6: this week? So they're already tracking that. But it's like,

1877
01:24:35,692 --> 01:24:38,532
Speaker 6: what if we just gave it another fifteen percent, you know,

1878
01:24:38,692 --> 01:24:40,612
Speaker 6: But how do you get that fifteen percent? Because the

1879
01:24:40,652 --> 01:24:43,372
Speaker 6: only way for you to get that extra percentage is

1880
01:24:43,492 --> 01:24:46,973
Speaker 6: by using outside influence, so to speak. So if we

1881
01:24:47,093 --> 01:24:50,692
Speaker 6: were just looking at in that respect, absolutely you could

1882
01:24:50,692 --> 01:24:53,293
Speaker 6: see some you could see some performances that would really

1883
01:24:53,372 --> 01:24:55,133
Speaker 6: be pushing up there with the likes of what was

1884
01:24:55,173 --> 01:24:57,732
Speaker 6: happening back in the eighties with all the world records

1885
01:24:57,772 --> 01:25:01,572
Speaker 6: that got scrapped in most sports, but under a controlled

1886
01:25:01,853 --> 01:25:04,333
Speaker 6: under a controlled environment. And so yes, I do see

1887
01:25:04,492 --> 01:25:07,412
Speaker 6: a benefit in terms of that science. But the problem

1888
01:25:07,492 --> 01:25:10,572
Speaker 6: is it's like the saying it's in enhanced games, and like, fuck,

1889
01:25:10,732 --> 01:25:13,333
Speaker 6: just go for gold. But of course, mate, you go

1890
01:25:13,692 --> 01:25:15,933
Speaker 6: too hard, We're going to have you know, there's a

1891
01:25:16,013 --> 01:25:17,932
Speaker 6: lot of problems that can happen. But if you can

1892
01:25:18,053 --> 01:25:22,293
Speaker 6: do it under the controlled environment above the restrictions that

1893
01:25:22,372 --> 01:25:24,892
Speaker 6: are currently in place, for sure, you're going to see

1894
01:25:24,933 --> 01:25:29,652
Speaker 6: some performances. But and here's the butt, it's like, how

1895
01:25:29,732 --> 01:25:31,452
Speaker 6: many of the current athletes are going to want to

1896
01:25:31,492 --> 01:25:35,133
Speaker 6: do that versus what they're currently doing, because you're only

1897
01:25:35,253 --> 01:25:37,532
Speaker 6: really going to get the athletes that are a either

1898
01:25:37,652 --> 01:25:41,173
Speaker 6: not quite good enough currently to be there, all the

1899
01:25:41,293 --> 01:25:43,412
Speaker 6: ones that are sort of retired and gone. You know what,

1900
01:25:43,612 --> 01:25:45,492
Speaker 6: I'll just whip out a retirement for a couple of

1901
01:25:45,572 --> 01:25:46,893
Speaker 6: years and just see what I can do.

1902
01:25:47,812 --> 01:25:51,572
Speaker 2: Another argument is that the organizers have is that they

1903
01:25:51,612 --> 01:25:54,012
Speaker 2: will test it to the limit here, much like formula

1904
01:25:54,093 --> 01:25:56,652
Speaker 2: one where you test the you know, the the text

1905
01:25:56,732 --> 01:25:59,452
Speaker 2: of the limit. And then maybe these performance and own

1906
01:25:59,572 --> 01:26:02,173
Speaker 2: drugs could be used for people that aren't trying to

1907
01:26:03,572 --> 01:26:06,772
Speaker 2: you know, win win medals, but are actually just getting

1908
01:26:06,812 --> 01:26:10,732
Speaker 2: through life and ab across life. Everyone could be performing

1909
01:26:10,853 --> 01:26:14,692
Speaker 2: better if there's if there's a performance antsing drugs that

1910
01:26:14,933 --> 01:26:17,492
Speaker 2: have been proven to be safe in the and the

1911
01:26:17,572 --> 01:26:20,092
Speaker 2: hardest you know stress point of competition.

1912
01:26:20,732 --> 01:26:23,412
Speaker 6: Yeah, but like a lot of those are already there

1913
01:26:23,452 --> 01:26:25,532
Speaker 6: that most like that. I think this is part of

1914
01:26:25,612 --> 01:26:29,532
Speaker 6: the misconception is that there's there's so many I guess

1915
01:26:29,692 --> 01:26:33,213
Speaker 6: drugs that are administered to people in everyday life because

1916
01:26:33,253 --> 01:26:38,412
Speaker 6: they've got something, you know, like the you know, you've

1917
01:26:38,452 --> 01:26:40,852
Speaker 6: got a chest infection, so you can get different drugs

1918
01:26:40,893 --> 01:26:42,692
Speaker 6: for that. You know, you've got a blood infection, so

1919
01:26:42,772 --> 01:26:44,893
Speaker 6: you can get different stuff. And a lot of the

1920
01:26:45,013 --> 01:26:48,213
Speaker 6: masking agents that are banned in sport are things where

1921
01:26:48,772 --> 01:26:50,772
Speaker 6: you do have an infection. You know, you get a

1922
01:26:50,812 --> 01:26:53,173
Speaker 6: little bit of sepsis or something from an infected blister

1923
01:26:53,452 --> 01:26:56,333
Speaker 6: or you know whatever. We're not allowed those as athletes

1924
01:26:56,372 --> 01:26:59,813
Speaker 6: because it keeps that it keeps the like the steroid

1925
01:26:59,973 --> 01:27:03,452
Speaker 6: or the antibiotics in your system and holding them there. So,

1926
01:27:03,532 --> 01:27:05,293
Speaker 6: you know, there's all of those types of things which

1927
01:27:05,293 --> 01:27:08,972
Speaker 6: are currently allowed in the general publics every day life

1928
01:27:09,093 --> 01:27:12,293
Speaker 6: if they've got an ailment, but aren't allowed in sport. Right,

1929
01:27:12,412 --> 01:27:14,492
Speaker 6: So this is where it's like, where are we just

1930
01:27:14,612 --> 01:27:16,812
Speaker 6: going to go across the line or are we literally

1931
01:27:16,973 --> 01:27:19,213
Speaker 6: just throwing the line out the window and being like,

1932
01:27:19,412 --> 01:27:21,892
Speaker 6: go for gold, boys, you know, boys and girls, let's.

1933
01:27:21,812 --> 01:27:22,293
Speaker 8: Light it up.

1934
01:27:22,492 --> 01:27:26,452
Speaker 4: Yeah, we are talking to double Olympic gold medal champion

1935
01:27:26,652 --> 01:27:30,532
Speaker 4: Eric Murray, Eric honesty call. Ifdsuza says we want to

1936
01:27:30,572 --> 01:27:33,692
Speaker 4: bring rowing into the enhanced Games, put the call out.

1937
01:27:33,853 --> 01:27:35,892
Speaker 4: Would you ever look at that and consider, hey, it's

1938
01:27:35,933 --> 01:27:37,852
Speaker 4: half a million bucks and won't give it a crack.

1939
01:27:38,853 --> 01:27:45,092
Speaker 6: Mad, I'm forty three pounds. That's probably something you asked

1940
01:27:45,213 --> 01:27:47,652
Speaker 6: like Emma Twig or someone who's you know, right around

1941
01:27:47,812 --> 01:27:52,213
Speaker 6: probably the right age or the perfect age currently in

1942
01:27:52,372 --> 01:27:55,333
Speaker 6: her peak. But no, not for me, like I've crossed

1943
01:27:55,372 --> 01:27:58,013
Speaker 6: that level. But that's the other thing as well. You know,

1944
01:27:58,133 --> 01:28:00,732
Speaker 6: there's in a lot of sports, and I'll give you

1945
01:28:00,853 --> 01:28:03,013
Speaker 6: the stat that the average age of an Olympic gold

1946
01:28:03,093 --> 01:28:06,692
Speaker 6: medalists like thirty, right, so you've almost got to be

1947
01:28:06,812 --> 01:28:10,372
Speaker 6: around thirty years old somewhere, you know, mid twenties to

1948
01:28:10,492 --> 01:28:14,013
Speaker 6: mid thirties and then decide to jump on this bandwagon.

1949
01:28:14,053 --> 01:28:17,372
Speaker 6: And of course absolutely, if there's the problem, I shouldn't

1950
01:28:17,372 --> 01:28:19,572
Speaker 6: say the problem. The thing is with most sports is

1951
01:28:19,652 --> 01:28:22,532
Speaker 6: that the reason that people you know, step aside or

1952
01:28:22,572 --> 01:28:25,253
Speaker 6: try and push the boundaries or cheat so to speak,

1953
01:28:25,692 --> 01:28:28,372
Speaker 6: is because money is involved. You know, it's like that's

1954
01:28:28,412 --> 01:28:30,412
Speaker 6: the reason, that's the reason that people are doing it,

1955
01:28:30,532 --> 01:28:32,293
Speaker 6: is because they're like, look, if I win this, I

1956
01:28:32,372 --> 01:28:35,813
Speaker 6: get bonus endorsements, I get I could get a sponsorship

1957
01:28:35,893 --> 01:28:38,092
Speaker 6: from this and that type of thing, and so most

1958
01:28:38,173 --> 01:28:41,372
Speaker 6: of it is driven by money and the reward that

1959
01:28:41,492 --> 01:28:42,333
Speaker 6: you get from things.

1960
01:28:43,013 --> 01:28:46,173
Speaker 2: Do you think that the Enhanced Games would what do

1961
01:28:46,213 --> 01:28:47,972
Speaker 2: you think the Enhanced Games would mean for the Olympics,

1962
01:28:47,973 --> 01:28:50,892
Speaker 2: because do you reckon they could both exist without affecting

1963
01:28:50,933 --> 01:28:51,293
Speaker 2: each other?

1964
01:28:52,692 --> 01:28:55,492
Speaker 6: Well, I do, because what you know, you've got to

1965
01:28:55,492 --> 01:28:57,452
Speaker 6: think what they've been trying to do with the Olympics

1966
01:28:57,572 --> 01:28:59,932
Speaker 6: is make it a standard, right, so it's a standardized thing.

1967
01:29:00,333 --> 01:29:02,452
Speaker 6: That's why you've got wider that's why you've got drug

1968
01:29:02,532 --> 01:29:05,612
Speaker 6: free sport. You know, organizations in every country is to

1969
01:29:05,732 --> 01:29:08,532
Speaker 6: create a standard so that the next person knows what

1970
01:29:08,652 --> 01:29:11,093
Speaker 6: the standard is and competes for that standard. Can they

1971
01:29:11,133 --> 01:29:14,293
Speaker 6: push that standard even further because otherwise, as you say,

1972
01:29:14,412 --> 01:29:16,253
Speaker 6: this is what's going to happen, is that the standard

1973
01:29:16,293 --> 01:29:21,452
Speaker 6: gets skewed because you've got enhancement, whether that's whether that's

1974
01:29:21,492 --> 01:29:24,532
Speaker 6: a lot of enhancement or just a minor enhancement. That's

1975
01:29:24,612 --> 01:29:27,133
Speaker 6: the difference. And so generally the reason that all of

1976
01:29:27,213 --> 01:29:30,772
Speaker 6: this exists is so that you can have a standard

1977
01:29:30,893 --> 01:29:33,933
Speaker 6: and a benchmark that people aspire to that they'll be like,

1978
01:29:34,013 --> 01:29:36,293
Speaker 6: oh wow, that broke the Olympic record by point one

1979
01:29:36,333 --> 01:29:38,013
Speaker 6: of a second, you know, if you're not breaking it

1980
01:29:38,093 --> 01:29:41,213
Speaker 6: by three or four, which will probably happen in this

1981
01:29:41,372 --> 01:29:42,532
Speaker 6: sort of respect. Yeah.

1982
01:29:42,612 --> 01:29:45,213
Speaker 4: Absolutely, it's a fascinating idea and it's going to happen

1983
01:29:45,293 --> 01:29:47,652
Speaker 4: next May. But Eric, thank you very much for coming

1984
01:29:47,692 --> 01:29:50,812
Speaker 4: on and having a chat. No worries things, team go well,

1985
01:29:50,812 --> 01:29:52,932
Speaker 4: we'll catch up again soon. That is double Olympic gold

1986
01:29:52,973 --> 01:29:56,013
Speaker 4: medal champion Eric Murray. But we're going to carry this

1987
01:29:56,093 --> 01:29:56,692
Speaker 4: on for a little bit.

1988
01:29:56,893 --> 01:29:59,492
Speaker 2: Surprisingly open to the idea of the enhance Games.

1989
01:29:59,572 --> 01:30:01,692
Speaker 3: Yeah absolutely. It is eighteen bar three.

1990
01:30:02,093 --> 01:30:04,253
Speaker 8: US talk zib it's twenty pars three, So.

1991
01:30:04,253 --> 01:30:06,812
Speaker 2: We're talking about the Enhanced Games where you're allowed to

1992
01:30:06,893 --> 01:30:10,772
Speaker 2: take performance enhance drugs. It's coming in twenty twenty six.

1993
01:30:10,933 --> 01:30:14,532
Speaker 2: But there's a massive lawsuit right now happening between the

1994
01:30:14,652 --> 01:30:18,132
Speaker 2: Enhanced Games and World Aquatics. He was swimming and wader.

1995
01:30:18,812 --> 01:30:22,173
Speaker 2: Now this text is interesting. She just popped up with

1996
01:30:22,452 --> 01:30:24,013
Speaker 2: all you have to do. All you have to do

1997
01:30:24,213 --> 01:30:26,772
Speaker 2: is watch WWF wrestling in the USA in the old

1998
01:30:26,853 --> 01:30:30,372
Speaker 2: days to see results. Yeah, I mean, let's just think

1999
01:30:30,372 --> 01:30:31,452
Speaker 2: about Ultimate Warrior.

2000
01:30:31,572 --> 01:30:31,772
Speaker 6: Yep.

2001
01:30:31,933 --> 01:30:35,812
Speaker 2: But he died in his early fifties. Ravishing, grek Rude

2002
01:30:35,853 --> 01:30:38,452
Speaker 2: died when he was forty. I believe you got mister

2003
01:30:38,532 --> 01:30:45,572
Speaker 2: Perfect he died early forties. The British Bulldog I think

2004
01:30:45,652 --> 01:30:48,452
Speaker 2: he was in his thirties. Chris Benois, so.

2005
01:30:48,853 --> 01:30:50,293
Speaker 3: You know a lot of them. Yeah, and they were

2006
01:30:50,412 --> 01:30:51,452
Speaker 3: routed up, no doubt about it.

2007
01:30:51,532 --> 01:30:51,732
Speaker 5: Yeah.

2008
01:30:51,732 --> 01:30:53,173
Speaker 2: Well, I mean Chris Benoire is a bit more of

2009
01:30:53,213 --> 01:30:53,972
Speaker 2: a complex case.

2010
01:30:54,093 --> 01:30:55,293
Speaker 6: But yeah.

2011
01:30:55,973 --> 01:30:58,412
Speaker 2: The argument that the Enhanced Games would put to that

2012
01:30:58,692 --> 01:31:02,613
Speaker 2: is that they provide a whole lot of medical monitoring

2013
01:31:02,933 --> 01:31:06,652
Speaker 2: with the performance enhancing drugs over the athletes, and so

2014
01:31:06,853 --> 01:31:08,572
Speaker 2: it wouldn't be the sort of back room kind of

2015
01:31:08,572 --> 01:31:10,652
Speaker 2: stuff that was happening with the WWF in the eighties

2016
01:31:10,692 --> 01:31:11,492
Speaker 2: and the early nineties.

2017
01:31:11,652 --> 01:31:11,852
Speaker 6: Yeah.

2018
01:31:11,973 --> 01:31:14,532
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's not, you know, a buffet of drugs that

2019
01:31:14,612 --> 01:31:17,213
Speaker 4: they can just hue into. Yeah, there's certain I mean,

2020
01:31:17,253 --> 01:31:19,093
Speaker 4: even though that sounds good to some people.

2021
01:31:19,213 --> 01:31:20,772
Speaker 2: If you ever wondered why the Rock seems to be

2022
01:31:20,812 --> 01:31:22,812
Speaker 2: getting buffer and buffer as he gets older. It's a

2023
01:31:22,812 --> 01:31:25,452
Speaker 2: good question. Yeah, I wonder why, I wonder how does

2024
01:31:25,492 --> 01:31:25,852
Speaker 2: he do it?

2025
01:31:25,933 --> 01:31:26,732
Speaker 8: How does he do it?

2026
01:31:26,933 --> 01:31:27,053
Speaker 12: Right?

2027
01:31:27,093 --> 01:31:29,492
Speaker 4: Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call.

2028
01:31:30,013 --> 01:31:32,813
Speaker 4: It is twenty two pass three back very shortly.

2029
01:31:36,652 --> 01:31:40,053
Speaker 1: Mad Heathen Tyler Adams afternoons call oh eight hundred and

2030
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Speaker 1: eighty ten eighty on News Talk ZB.

2031
01:31:42,492 --> 01:31:45,093
Speaker 4: Afternoon tier twenty four past three, and we are talking

2032
01:31:45,133 --> 01:31:48,173
Speaker 4: about the Enhanced Games. So these games that will take

2033
01:31:48,213 --> 01:31:51,092
Speaker 4: place in May next year in Las Vegas, where athletes

2034
01:31:51,412 --> 01:31:53,572
Speaker 4: will not be drug tested, so they can take performance

2035
01:31:53,692 --> 01:31:54,532
Speaker 4: enhancing drugs.

2036
01:31:54,933 --> 01:31:57,133
Speaker 2: I guess if you're not rich or smarter, let's get

2037
01:31:57,213 --> 01:32:00,012
Speaker 2: stronger or endurance levels, et cetera. But there's a drawback.

2038
01:32:00,053 --> 01:32:03,852
Speaker 2: What happens to your body mind later in the same

2039
01:32:03,933 --> 01:32:06,652
Speaker 2: happens in New Zealand when climbing tramping streams, little rivers

2040
01:32:06,772 --> 01:32:11,532
Speaker 2: rise really fast. Very sad about the Texas outcome. Yeah, okay,

2041
01:32:11,652 --> 01:32:13,652
Speaker 2: thank you very much for that pizza.

2042
01:32:14,093 --> 01:32:18,293
Speaker 23: You are from Kenya, Yes, I'm from Kenya. It's a

2043
01:32:18,452 --> 01:32:22,412
Speaker 23: very interesting discussion you're having. I'm a bit surprised that

2044
01:32:22,572 --> 01:32:24,692
Speaker 23: a lot of people don't seem to know or realize

2045
01:32:24,732 --> 01:32:28,173
Speaker 23: that this already happens to some level in professional athletics.

2046
01:32:28,652 --> 01:32:33,612
Speaker 23: It is just something that particularly in Kenya, Uganda and someone.

2047
01:32:34,053 --> 01:32:35,772
Speaker 23: It is just very well known that this kind of

2048
01:32:35,853 --> 01:32:38,612
Speaker 23: thing happens, especially the older athletes, the ones who are

2049
01:32:38,652 --> 01:32:39,532
Speaker 23: professional and someone.

2050
01:32:40,492 --> 01:32:41,532
Speaker 5: It's fairly common.

2051
01:32:42,532 --> 01:32:45,333
Speaker 2: So you know you're talking about I mean, obviously Kenya's

2052
01:32:45,333 --> 01:32:51,293
Speaker 2: got the most incredible record and long distance running. So

2053
01:32:51,652 --> 01:32:54,213
Speaker 2: are you saying that it's known that some of these

2054
01:32:54,412 --> 01:32:56,852
Speaker 2: superstars have been doping.

2055
01:32:59,093 --> 01:33:02,333
Speaker 23: I'm saying if you look at the amount of money

2056
01:33:02,372 --> 01:33:04,333
Speaker 23: that you make by winning let's say one of those

2057
01:33:04,372 --> 01:33:07,772
Speaker 23: big marathons in the West, Boston, London and Berlin, yea,

2058
01:33:08,093 --> 01:33:10,612
Speaker 23: and you look at the standard of living in Kenya

2059
01:33:10,692 --> 01:33:12,773
Speaker 23: and you'll look at winning a million dollars.

2060
01:33:12,572 --> 01:33:13,133
Speaker 5: Or something like that.

2061
01:33:13,293 --> 01:33:16,412
Speaker 23: The temptation is so massive that there's this group of

2062
01:33:16,692 --> 01:33:19,893
Speaker 23: agents and athletes and representatives and so on. And what

2063
01:33:20,013 --> 01:33:21,652
Speaker 23: they do is they come over there and they do

2064
01:33:21,772 --> 01:33:23,293
Speaker 23: what they need to do. They go back to the

2065
01:33:23,333 --> 01:33:25,452
Speaker 23: West and they'll win what they need to win. And

2066
01:33:25,692 --> 01:33:29,412
Speaker 23: the thing is that WADA is supposed to have representatives

2067
01:33:29,452 --> 01:33:31,173
Speaker 23: in places like Kenya, and it's three op and so

2068
01:33:31,213 --> 01:33:34,333
Speaker 23: on to do the testing locally. But you'll notice and

2069
01:33:34,452 --> 01:33:37,133
Speaker 23: you'll maybe you never thought about this, but you'll never

2070
01:33:37,253 --> 01:33:41,532
Speaker 23: see a positive taste by Wada in Kenya itself. It's

2071
01:33:41,612 --> 01:33:44,253
Speaker 23: always when these athletes go to the west of them

2072
01:33:44,293 --> 01:33:47,932
Speaker 23: are caught up. There's a very good reason for that, okay.

2073
01:33:48,333 --> 01:33:52,412
Speaker 23: And the reason is that very quickly, Kenya is known

2074
01:33:52,452 --> 01:33:55,653
Speaker 23: for four things. One is safari, the other is athletics,

2075
01:33:55,973 --> 01:33:58,732
Speaker 23: the third is rugby service and the fourth is corruption.

2076
01:33:59,532 --> 01:34:01,893
Speaker 23: And so you have a very corrupt country which is

2077
01:34:02,013 --> 01:34:04,893
Speaker 23: very poor, and yet the rewards of winning on the

2078
01:34:04,933 --> 01:34:07,772
Speaker 23: world stage are massive. If you're not caught, Guess what's

2079
01:34:07,812 --> 01:34:08,253
Speaker 23: gonna happen.

2080
01:34:08,812 --> 01:34:10,333
Speaker 5: They're going to do and they do it.

2081
01:34:10,492 --> 01:34:13,013
Speaker 23: And then the fifth, the other element is you have

2082
01:34:13,173 --> 01:34:15,812
Speaker 23: a massive number of youngsters coming through the system who

2083
01:34:15,812 --> 01:34:18,612
Speaker 23: are incredibly talented and they're putting a lot of pressure

2084
01:34:18,853 --> 01:34:21,253
Speaker 23: on the senior athletes. Guess what the senior athletes are

2085
01:34:21,293 --> 01:34:23,093
Speaker 23: going to do. They're going to try to keep up

2086
01:34:23,093 --> 01:34:26,092
Speaker 23: with upcoming competition and that means doping.

2087
01:34:26,572 --> 01:34:29,652
Speaker 4: So with all this in mind, Peter, do you think

2088
01:34:29,772 --> 01:34:32,452
Speaker 4: you'd support something like the Enhanced Games because it seems

2089
01:34:32,492 --> 01:34:35,652
Speaker 4: like an avenue that, as you say, athletes within kin

2090
01:34:35,772 --> 01:34:37,452
Speaker 4: or if they feel that pressure and they want to

2091
01:34:37,492 --> 01:34:40,053
Speaker 4: provide for their family and get a good prize, you know,

2092
01:34:40,093 --> 01:34:42,133
Speaker 4: and it is a good prize money, then this is

2093
01:34:42,133 --> 01:34:43,572
Speaker 4: an option to open to them and they don't have

2094
01:34:43,612 --> 01:34:44,412
Speaker 4: to be secret about it.

2095
01:34:46,692 --> 01:34:49,293
Speaker 23: From a moral perspective, no, that's just drug washing. It's

2096
01:34:49,293 --> 01:34:51,412
Speaker 23: a bit like throwing a lot of money at something.

2097
01:34:51,532 --> 01:34:53,492
Speaker 23: So I wouldn't support it. But I know it's going

2098
01:34:53,532 --> 01:34:56,012
Speaker 23: to happen, and they know that illegally it is happening.

2099
01:34:56,253 --> 01:34:58,692
Speaker 23: It's just that sometimes they look the other way. Sometimes

2100
01:34:58,732 --> 01:35:00,612
Speaker 23: they've got big sponsors who don't want, you know, a

2101
01:35:00,692 --> 01:35:03,412
Speaker 23: bad name for themselves. But the reality is it is

2102
01:35:03,532 --> 01:35:05,253
Speaker 23: coming and there's very little we going to go about it.

2103
01:35:05,532 --> 01:35:06,012
Speaker 6: It's coming.

2104
01:35:07,093 --> 01:35:09,532
Speaker 2: So would you say if you say there's not a

2105
01:35:09,532 --> 01:35:11,652
Speaker 2: lot of money of flirting around, I mean, isn't it

2106
01:35:11,692 --> 01:35:13,692
Speaker 2: a kind of a good option? Then that there is

2107
01:35:13,933 --> 01:35:17,253
Speaker 2: the performance and arts games that people that need to

2108
01:35:17,293 --> 01:35:18,652
Speaker 2: make money that might not be able to do it

2109
01:35:18,732 --> 01:35:19,492
Speaker 2: in the straight way.

2110
01:35:19,893 --> 01:35:20,452
Speaker 3: Can you know.

2111
01:35:22,452 --> 01:35:23,572
Speaker 5: If you look at it that way?

2112
01:35:23,612 --> 01:35:26,133
Speaker 23: But remember sports is also about providing role models for

2113
01:35:26,213 --> 01:35:29,053
Speaker 23: young people and getting them to understand that they can

2114
01:35:29,133 --> 01:35:32,412
Speaker 23: achieve things by working hard, by applying themselves rather than

2115
01:35:32,452 --> 01:35:35,333
Speaker 23: taking medical shortcuts and just injecting something and so on.

2116
01:35:35,692 --> 01:35:37,892
Speaker 23: You don't really want that. Plus, a short while ago

2117
01:35:38,133 --> 01:35:40,372
Speaker 23: you mentioned what used to happen in the WWF and

2118
01:35:40,452 --> 01:35:43,293
Speaker 23: so on. If they do that in the adsarities, they

2119
01:35:43,293 --> 01:35:45,053
Speaker 23: start dying and this kind of thing. You don't really

2120
01:35:45,093 --> 01:35:48,293
Speaker 23: want this for young people. So it is a sad reality.

2121
01:35:48,532 --> 01:35:51,173
Speaker 23: It's going to happen, but it's not something we should support.

2122
01:35:51,213 --> 01:35:53,133
Speaker 4: I think I might be wrong in this, Peter, But

2123
01:35:53,253 --> 01:35:56,772
Speaker 4: were you into running yourself and your younger days?

2124
01:35:57,893 --> 01:36:00,333
Speaker 5: I ran a lot. I played rugby and I ran.

2125
01:36:00,452 --> 01:36:02,612
Speaker 23: Yeah, I played rugby quite a lot, and I did

2126
01:36:02,692 --> 01:36:05,333
Speaker 23: lots of running. And I can tell you that I

2127
01:36:05,412 --> 01:36:08,213
Speaker 23: have seen people personally. I have send people that you

2128
01:36:08,492 --> 01:36:11,412
Speaker 23: know that obviously we're going into a dopping count and

2129
01:36:11,492 --> 01:36:12,333
Speaker 23: that's just the weak it was.

2130
01:36:12,532 --> 01:36:14,932
Speaker 3: It's accepted, Wow, not we need to have a chat

2131
01:36:14,973 --> 01:36:15,213
Speaker 3: off here.

2132
01:36:15,372 --> 01:36:19,612
Speaker 23: Not Kajoki though, Yeah, it's it's it's it's there.

2133
01:36:19,692 --> 01:36:22,613
Speaker 5: It happens, one hundred percent happens Kajoki.

2134
01:36:22,772 --> 01:36:23,692
Speaker 2: He's not one of them, was he?

2135
01:36:25,692 --> 01:36:25,732
Speaker 6: No?

2136
01:36:26,093 --> 01:36:32,253
Speaker 2: No, no, no, he's the greatest. Yeah, not joking, but

2137
01:36:32,532 --> 01:36:38,093
Speaker 2: he's absolutely insane human being. It's incredible what he can do. Yeah, Yeah, fantastic. Hey,

2138
01:36:38,173 --> 01:36:40,092
Speaker 2: thank you so much for those insights, Peter, incredible.

2139
01:36:40,732 --> 01:36:40,973
Speaker 12: Thank you.

2140
01:36:41,093 --> 01:36:42,333
Speaker 2: I really appreciate your cool.

2141
01:36:42,452 --> 01:36:45,173
Speaker 4: Yeah, thanks for giving us a buzz, right, I think

2142
01:36:45,253 --> 01:36:48,892
Speaker 4: that's where we'll leave it. What a great discussion, I think. Well,

2143
01:36:48,893 --> 01:36:51,812
Speaker 4: it started off everybody was very excited about the enhanced games.

2144
01:36:51,853 --> 01:36:54,772
Speaker 4: So as we carried on the conversation conversation, the question

2145
01:36:54,933 --> 01:36:57,412
Speaker 4: started to emerge. I think it's fifty to fifty Now.

2146
01:36:58,253 --> 01:37:00,652
Speaker 2: I kind of like the idea of it, but it

2147
01:37:00,933 --> 01:37:03,173
Speaker 2: just also feels a bit dirty to me. I can't

2148
01:37:03,293 --> 01:37:06,132
Speaker 2: you know, I'm so indoctrinated with the idea that doping

2149
01:37:06,253 --> 01:37:09,692
Speaker 2: is bad in sport, and you know that's something we

2150
01:37:09,772 --> 01:37:12,133
Speaker 2: want to completely wash out a sport that I just can't.

2151
01:37:12,933 --> 01:37:13,652
Speaker 2: I can't clean it.

2152
01:37:13,732 --> 01:37:14,253
Speaker 8: In my mind.

2153
01:37:14,333 --> 01:37:16,852
Speaker 2: It just seems that entance games just feel a little

2154
01:37:16,853 --> 01:37:20,532
Speaker 2: bit but scummy. Yeah somebody dirty but dirty? Yeah but dirty.

2155
01:37:20,612 --> 01:37:22,612
Speaker 2: But you know that might just be a bias that's

2156
01:37:22,652 --> 01:37:25,692
Speaker 2: been been pushed into me over the years.

2157
01:37:26,133 --> 01:37:29,173
Speaker 4: Yeah, great discussion. Thank you to everyone who phoned and

2158
01:37:29,213 --> 01:37:31,573
Speaker 4: text on that one. Right coming up after the headlines,

2159
01:37:31,652 --> 01:37:34,572
Speaker 4: let's have a chat about whether it's actually worth it

2160
01:37:34,692 --> 01:37:36,452
Speaker 4: to get some people in to help your move house.

2161
01:37:36,492 --> 01:37:38,253
Speaker 4: I'm in that situation at the moment, I say I

2162
01:37:38,293 --> 01:37:40,293
Speaker 4: should just do it myself. Save a bit of cash there.

2163
01:37:40,893 --> 01:37:43,012
Speaker 4: But is that a stupid move? Is it too stressful?

2164
01:37:43,093 --> 01:37:45,973
Speaker 4: You just get some bloken to sort out your couches.

2165
01:37:45,933 --> 01:37:48,333
Speaker 2: Get on the roids, mate, can't solf roided up for

2166
01:37:48,412 --> 01:37:48,732
Speaker 2: the move?

2167
01:37:49,213 --> 01:37:49,532
Speaker 6: You could?

2168
01:37:49,612 --> 01:37:51,532
Speaker 2: You could? You give yourself three weeks You could be

2169
01:37:51,572 --> 01:37:52,333
Speaker 2: as big as the rock?

2170
01:37:52,452 --> 01:37:53,013
Speaker 3: Yeah, got any?

2171
01:37:53,772 --> 01:37:53,972
Speaker 5: Yeah?

2172
01:37:54,093 --> 01:37:56,532
Speaker 3: Okay, all right, let's least do it ohe hundred.

2173
01:37:56,333 --> 01:37:58,492
Speaker 2: And eighty little blood transfusion under the disk.

2174
01:37:58,973 --> 01:38:02,253
Speaker 4: Hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call moving,

2175
01:38:02,333 --> 01:38:04,092
Speaker 4: getting movers in, or just doing it yourself.

2176
01:38:04,173 --> 01:38:06,412
Speaker 3: Love to your thoughts. It is bang on past three

2177
01:38:08,893 --> 01:38:09,532
Speaker 3: youse talks.

2178
01:38:09,572 --> 01:38:13,452
Speaker 14: It be headlines with blue bubble taxis it's no trouble

2179
01:38:13,532 --> 01:38:16,133
Speaker 14: with a blue bubble in New Zealand is announcing a

2180
01:38:16,213 --> 01:38:19,452
Speaker 14: slide in profit on the same day Quantus sees profit

2181
01:38:19,612 --> 01:38:23,053
Speaker 14: surge to a record high. Our national carrier has seen

2182
01:38:23,093 --> 01:38:26,253
Speaker 14: profit drop thirteen point seven percent as it deals with

2183
01:38:26,372 --> 01:38:30,173
Speaker 14: weak domestic demand. The Australian carrier's figures have risen twenty

2184
01:38:30,293 --> 01:38:35,053
Speaker 14: seven percent thanks to strong domestic and international earnings. The

2185
01:38:35,133 --> 01:38:37,412
Speaker 14: government says a new trade agreement will open the door

2186
01:38:37,492 --> 01:38:40,973
Speaker 14: to one of the world's fastest growing economies. A comprehensive

2187
01:38:41,013 --> 01:38:44,572
Speaker 14: economic partnership agreement has now officially started with the United

2188
01:38:44,612 --> 01:38:48,972
Speaker 14: Arab Emirates. Businesses will be able to respond to alcohol

2189
01:38:49,053 --> 01:38:53,692
Speaker 14: licensing objections under government reform. Changes proposed mean only local

2190
01:38:53,732 --> 01:38:56,732
Speaker 14: communities can object and businesses can reply.

2191
01:38:57,893 --> 01:38:58,892
Speaker 3: And more than one hundred and.

2192
01:38:58,893 --> 01:39:02,013
Speaker 14: Forty Stuff Media workers have walked off the job for

2193
01:39:02,173 --> 01:39:05,732
Speaker 14: two hours over pay. The two union says members are

2194
01:39:05,772 --> 01:39:09,173
Speaker 14: responding to years of being undervalued and attempts by the

2195
01:39:09,253 --> 01:39:13,253
Speaker 14: company to divide its workforce and way care. We fruit

2196
01:39:13,333 --> 01:39:15,612
Speaker 14: maybe the perfect snack. You read the story at ends

2197
01:39:15,612 --> 01:39:17,692
Speaker 14: at Harald Premium. Back to mattin Taylor.

2198
01:39:18,013 --> 01:39:19,412
Speaker 3: Thank you very much. Max.

2199
01:39:19,532 --> 01:39:21,852
Speaker 4: Right, let's say I have a chat about an argument

2200
01:39:21,933 --> 01:39:23,933
Speaker 4: that has erupted in my household at the moment. So

2201
01:39:24,053 --> 01:39:26,253
Speaker 4: we're moving very soon. We're in Mount Wellington at the

2202
01:39:26,253 --> 01:39:28,612
Speaker 4: moment and have found a new rental in the beautiful

2203
01:39:28,652 --> 01:39:32,092
Speaker 4: Mount Albert. Very excited about moving into this beautiful we bungalow.

2204
01:39:33,013 --> 01:39:34,932
Speaker 4: But when it comes to the moving side of things,

2205
01:39:34,973 --> 01:39:37,133
Speaker 4: I've always been someone who likes to do it myself.

2206
01:39:37,173 --> 01:39:39,253
Speaker 4: But a DIY move and I've got a tobar, get

2207
01:39:39,333 --> 01:39:42,053
Speaker 4: a trailer, load the couches up and just ship them

2208
01:39:42,093 --> 01:39:45,333
Speaker 4: across the city myself, stilly, isn't it massive?

2209
01:39:45,333 --> 01:39:45,652
Speaker 6: Story?

2210
01:39:45,732 --> 01:39:48,372
Speaker 3: Love saving money? If I can save money, I will

2211
01:39:48,412 --> 01:39:48,893
Speaker 3: try and do it.

2212
01:39:49,253 --> 01:39:51,692
Speaker 4: But this has come to the point where my partner

2213
01:39:51,772 --> 01:39:53,532
Speaker 4: may have love it a bit, but she's put a

2214
01:39:53,572 --> 01:39:55,492
Speaker 4: foot down and she hardly ever does this when I

2215
01:39:55,572 --> 01:39:57,492
Speaker 4: try and save money, and God knows why she's still

2216
01:39:57,532 --> 01:39:59,812
Speaker 4: with me, but she says, this time, we're spending the

2217
01:39:59,853 --> 01:40:02,213
Speaker 4: money to get professional movers because last time we did

2218
01:40:02,253 --> 01:40:05,132
Speaker 4: it it was a massive amount of stress.

2219
01:40:05,133 --> 01:40:05,572
Speaker 18: And it was.

2220
01:40:06,213 --> 01:40:08,892
Speaker 4: But the reason it was stressful is because we were

2221
01:40:08,973 --> 01:40:11,892
Speaker 4: moving from christ Church up to Auckland and I rented

2222
01:40:11,973 --> 01:40:13,692
Speaker 4: the truck and then we had to get down to

2223
01:40:13,772 --> 01:40:15,492
Speaker 4: the lock up and it was just me and Mave

2224
01:40:15,572 --> 01:40:17,452
Speaker 4: loading all this stuff up. Then we had to get

2225
01:40:17,492 --> 01:40:19,812
Speaker 4: on the ferry then drive all the way up and

2226
01:40:20,093 --> 01:40:21,932
Speaker 4: I crashed into the neighbor's house when I was trying

2227
01:40:21,933 --> 01:40:25,133
Speaker 4: to back the truck. So the landlord still doesn't know

2228
01:40:25,173 --> 01:40:26,452
Speaker 4: about that a lot of the ways, so there was

2229
01:40:26,452 --> 01:40:27,772
Speaker 4: a lot of stress there. But I've said to her,

2230
01:40:27,812 --> 01:40:29,973
Speaker 4: you know, that's different That's a different situation, isn't it.

2231
01:40:30,093 --> 01:40:31,933
Speaker 3: I'm just carting it across Auckland, So.

2232
01:40:32,173 --> 01:40:36,213
Speaker 2: You expect her to help you move? Yeah, so she's

2233
01:40:36,213 --> 01:40:37,933
Speaker 2: saying I don't want to move. So you could do

2234
01:40:37,973 --> 01:40:40,612
Speaker 2: some kind of hybrid operation where you do some of

2235
01:40:40,652 --> 01:40:42,572
Speaker 2: the moving with the movers and she pays for the

2236
01:40:42,612 --> 01:40:45,333
Speaker 2: movers side and you don't pay whatever. That would create

2237
01:40:45,372 --> 01:40:48,253
Speaker 2: a neck. This is an interesting Texas come through here

2238
01:40:48,293 --> 01:40:51,133
Speaker 2: that might be of interest to you. My husband does

2239
01:40:51,253 --> 01:40:54,333
Speaker 2: all the moving when we move. This is because he's

2240
01:40:54,372 --> 01:40:57,133
Speaker 2: a man's man. His manningness is a lot of why

2241
01:40:57,173 --> 01:40:59,732
Speaker 2: I love him. My friends get moses each time. I

2242
01:40:59,772 --> 01:41:02,532
Speaker 2: always think you're married to a lesser man than mine. Well,

2243
01:41:02,572 --> 01:41:04,852
Speaker 2: he fixes things and he moves things because he's a

2244
01:41:04,893 --> 01:41:08,572
Speaker 2: good strong man and not a whimp. So may yeah,

2245
01:41:08,652 --> 01:41:11,772
Speaker 2: if she's like this, this woman that's texted in here,

2246
01:41:13,013 --> 01:41:16,173
Speaker 2: she she may. You may agree with her and get

2247
01:41:16,213 --> 01:41:18,692
Speaker 2: the movers, but just secret she's going, he.

2248
01:41:18,732 --> 01:41:20,452
Speaker 3: Can't do it. I'm with a win do it.

2249
01:41:20,572 --> 01:41:21,213
Speaker 2: I'm with a wimp.

2250
01:41:21,333 --> 01:41:23,492
Speaker 3: I I don't think she's thinking that. But maybe other

2251
01:41:23,532 --> 01:41:23,892
Speaker 3: way she.

2252
01:41:23,933 --> 01:41:26,253
Speaker 2: Might sit there with a cool glass of lemonade on

2253
01:41:26,333 --> 01:41:28,852
Speaker 2: the porch and just what wats you with your glistening

2254
01:41:28,973 --> 01:41:34,372
Speaker 2: muscles carrying the couch into it into your car and

2255
01:41:34,732 --> 01:41:35,532
Speaker 2: be impressed.

2256
01:41:35,213 --> 01:41:37,692
Speaker 4: For grunting up the driveway having a little bit of

2257
01:41:37,732 --> 01:41:40,333
Speaker 4: a hernie' sticking out. Yeah, yeah, I mean that's a

2258
01:41:40,372 --> 01:41:42,293
Speaker 4: fair point that if if I just do it myself,

2259
01:41:42,333 --> 01:41:43,812
Speaker 4: maybe I'll get some brandie points with Maye.

2260
01:41:43,812 --> 01:41:44,372
Speaker 6: But what does she do?

2261
01:41:44,452 --> 01:41:46,412
Speaker 3: She has to do something. She can unpack the boxes

2262
01:41:46,452 --> 01:41:49,812
Speaker 3: at the new place or oh one hundred and eighty

2263
01:41:49,893 --> 01:41:51,812
Speaker 3: ten eighty is the number of cool if.

2264
01:41:51,732 --> 01:41:53,772
Speaker 2: You have the money just getting a moving company. I'm

2265
01:41:53,772 --> 01:41:56,732
Speaker 2: currently moving right now, easy as will fully settle in

2266
01:41:56,893 --> 01:41:59,293
Speaker 2: an hour, and so haven't lifted a single thing. Okay,

2267
01:41:59,372 --> 01:42:01,333
Speaker 2: what about this though, because there's the other part of it.

2268
01:42:01,412 --> 01:42:03,293
Speaker 2: You can you can go even further and you can

2269
01:42:03,333 --> 01:42:04,532
Speaker 2: get companies to do the packing.

2270
01:42:05,652 --> 01:42:09,532
Speaker 3: So lazy, that is massively late. Have you done that before?

2271
01:42:09,652 --> 01:42:11,772
Speaker 3: No your names man.

2272
01:42:11,772 --> 01:42:13,492
Speaker 2: No, no no, no, no, no, no, no no no.

2273
01:42:14,412 --> 01:42:19,772
Speaker 2: I'm much to the chagrin of you know, partners in

2274
01:42:19,933 --> 01:42:21,933
Speaker 2: my life. I'm a big fan of doing most of

2275
01:42:21,973 --> 01:42:24,732
Speaker 2: the moving myself. So I've been collecting my mood, my food,

2276
01:42:24,893 --> 01:42:28,133
Speaker 2: my food bead boxes for months for our move coming up.

2277
01:42:28,133 --> 01:42:30,012
Speaker 2: I've got all the boxes. Really, I'm excited about backing

2278
01:42:30,053 --> 01:42:31,692
Speaker 2: them up. I'm excited about it.

2279
01:42:31,812 --> 01:42:31,892
Speaker 1: Now.

2280
01:42:32,053 --> 01:42:34,053
Speaker 4: I've actually done the cost breakdown of how much money

2281
01:42:34,093 --> 01:42:36,492
Speaker 4: I could save on this. So I've calculated roughly it's

2282
01:42:36,492 --> 01:42:38,532
Speaker 4: going to cost me three hundred bucks to hire a truck,

2283
01:42:38,732 --> 01:42:40,732
Speaker 4: a bit of petrol involved. Maybe I've got a shout,

2284
01:42:40,772 --> 01:42:43,053
Speaker 4: made some lunch if she's lucky to get a mover

2285
01:42:43,253 --> 01:42:45,812
Speaker 4: looked it up. The cheapest I could find was about

2286
01:42:45,812 --> 01:42:49,172
Speaker 4: two k, So I'm saving seventeen hundred there. I've calculated

2287
01:42:49,293 --> 01:42:51,333
Speaker 4: five hours of time to get it all done. So

2288
01:42:51,492 --> 01:42:55,012
Speaker 4: what's that per earlier rate? So seventeen hundred divided by five,

2289
01:42:55,133 --> 01:42:56,572
Speaker 4: that's a pretty good hourly rate.

2290
01:42:56,652 --> 01:42:58,013
Speaker 3: That is some good savings right there.

2291
01:42:58,173 --> 01:43:01,852
Speaker 2: Yeah, hopefully more than getting paid yet, The six says,

2292
01:43:01,853 --> 01:43:04,213
Speaker 2: speaking of saving savior relationship and hire remover.

2293
01:43:04,492 --> 01:43:06,932
Speaker 4: Yeah, very good, right, the phones have led up, Pete

2294
01:43:06,973 --> 01:43:09,452
Speaker 4: are working with the show eighteen.

2295
01:43:09,853 --> 01:43:13,253
Speaker 25: I refuse to move anyone now, I've just got him

2296
01:43:13,333 --> 01:43:16,973
Speaker 25: selfish the a friend of mine, God bless her. The

2297
01:43:17,053 --> 01:43:20,372
Speaker 25: only muscles she had was in her fingers, because you're

2298
01:43:20,372 --> 01:43:24,492
Speaker 25: an apartment partner of both nineteen They asked us a

2299
01:43:24,572 --> 01:43:27,053
Speaker 25: couple of weeks hours to help move the house. Hey,

2300
01:43:28,692 --> 01:43:32,212
Speaker 25: we get around there on the day, they hadn't prepped anything.

2301
01:43:32,412 --> 01:43:36,253
Speaker 2: Oh my god, it was And this happened twice and

2302
01:43:36,372 --> 01:43:36,572
Speaker 2: I was.

2303
01:43:36,612 --> 01:43:39,132
Speaker 20: Like, I got to the point that I'm not helping anymore,

2304
01:43:39,572 --> 01:43:41,372
Speaker 20: and I just rubbed, just pay for it.

2305
01:43:41,812 --> 01:43:42,412
Speaker 18: Just gon't do it.

2306
01:43:43,333 --> 01:43:45,812
Speaker 25: Is with your mother. If it's raining, what are you

2307
01:43:45,893 --> 01:43:49,772
Speaker 25: going to do? Adds time onto your your moving do

2308
01:43:49,973 --> 01:43:50,452
Speaker 25: it yourself.

2309
01:43:50,692 --> 01:43:53,492
Speaker 3: I got too tight. I've got too ready to.

2310
01:43:55,093 --> 01:43:56,092
Speaker 18: Yeah, but you're tiny.

2311
01:43:56,133 --> 01:43:59,452
Speaker 20: It all down and may run loose and water comes

2312
01:43:59,652 --> 01:44:01,652
Speaker 20: through the correct stopping and tight.

2313
01:44:01,532 --> 01:44:06,532
Speaker 6: As thank you very much.

2314
01:44:07,133 --> 01:44:07,372
Speaker 2: Yeah.

2315
01:44:07,612 --> 01:44:08,012
Speaker 8: I mean.

2316
01:44:09,933 --> 01:44:12,572
Speaker 2: It's turning up to help and they haven't even started packing.

2317
01:44:12,652 --> 01:44:12,692
Speaker 9: That.

2318
01:44:13,452 --> 01:44:15,772
Speaker 2: That is disgusting. Behave You've asked some people to help

2319
01:44:15,812 --> 01:44:17,492
Speaker 2: and you haven't even boxed it all up yet.

2320
01:44:17,692 --> 01:44:20,932
Speaker 3: Yeah, you are absolute skiout. That's the lowest of the lie.

2321
01:44:20,973 --> 01:44:22,173
Speaker 3: There's no way to treat a friend.

2322
01:44:22,412 --> 01:44:24,612
Speaker 2: But I remember when I was at university, I was

2323
01:44:24,732 --> 01:44:27,213
Speaker 2: constant on every weekend, I was moving people, you know,

2324
01:44:27,293 --> 01:44:29,652
Speaker 2: right through my twenties. So it was like her moving

2325
01:44:29,692 --> 01:44:31,412
Speaker 2: this weekend, do you help. I had this mate called Mike,

2326
01:44:31,492 --> 01:44:35,892
Speaker 2: and he seemed to move every two weeks. I had

2327
01:44:35,893 --> 01:44:37,852
Speaker 2: another one called Andrew had a piano and he seemed

2328
01:44:37,853 --> 01:44:40,452
Speaker 2: to move every month. I think I moved that piano

2329
01:44:40,452 --> 01:44:41,452
Speaker 2: about three or four times.

2330
01:44:41,532 --> 01:44:43,972
Speaker 3: That's hard Yaka Ellen, how are you mate?

2331
01:44:44,732 --> 01:44:44,892
Speaker 18: Good?

2332
01:44:44,973 --> 01:44:45,492
Speaker 5: Dam's good?

2333
01:44:46,093 --> 01:44:49,133
Speaker 24: And I just thought a few years ago, quite a

2334
01:44:49,173 --> 01:44:51,812
Speaker 24: few now. I asked a real estate agent in Norkland

2335
01:44:52,333 --> 01:44:53,852
Speaker 24: and she put me in touch with a guy that

2336
01:44:54,013 --> 01:44:57,452
Speaker 24: was a little two men band called Just Moving. But

2337
01:44:57,572 --> 01:45:00,093
Speaker 24: when it came to a regional houseload, he used to

2338
01:45:00,173 --> 01:45:02,412
Speaker 24: get a team of people that turned out to be

2339
01:45:02,532 --> 01:45:06,492
Speaker 24: the Junior Warriors. From the day when Fisher and Parcel

2340
01:45:06,532 --> 01:45:08,892
Speaker 24: had lumps of concrete on the bottom of the washing machines,

2341
01:45:09,612 --> 01:45:11,012
Speaker 24: I can recall seeing.

2342
01:45:10,853 --> 01:45:15,692
Speaker 5: Mine being run up the random of the truck pretty

2343
01:45:15,732 --> 01:45:16,532
Speaker 5: much everything up.

2344
01:45:16,772 --> 01:45:19,732
Speaker 24: We use them about three times in Auckland and from

2345
01:45:20,133 --> 01:45:22,093
Speaker 24: go to Wavers you don't like about three three and

2346
01:45:22,093 --> 01:45:22,772
Speaker 24: a half hours.

2347
01:45:23,853 --> 01:45:27,492
Speaker 2: Yeah right, that that's reasonable training, I imagine. Yeah, reasonable

2348
01:45:27,532 --> 01:45:30,452
Speaker 2: streets training, you know, and multiple stresses on your muscles.

2349
01:45:30,492 --> 01:45:32,652
Speaker 2: You're using different things. It's kind of the ultimate CrossFit,

2350
01:45:32,732 --> 01:45:34,572
Speaker 2: isn't it? Being being a mover.

2351
01:45:34,973 --> 01:45:38,093
Speaker 24: Yeah, that's why I asked the real estate agent. I

2352
01:45:38,173 --> 01:45:40,293
Speaker 24: just thought they must come across lots of good and

2353
01:45:40,532 --> 01:45:41,212
Speaker 24: bad stories.

2354
01:45:41,452 --> 01:45:43,412
Speaker 4: Yeah, good for you as well, and that you get

2355
01:45:43,412 --> 01:45:45,253
Speaker 4: a bit of entertainment at the same time watching the

2356
01:45:45,333 --> 01:45:46,333
Speaker 4: junior Warriors go at it.

2357
01:45:47,173 --> 01:45:47,812
Speaker 6: You're not wrong.

2358
01:45:48,532 --> 01:45:51,572
Speaker 24: The funny thing was the house we were moving to.

2359
01:45:52,053 --> 01:45:54,053
Speaker 24: They were way behind the eight ball. Instead of being

2360
01:45:54,492 --> 01:45:56,852
Speaker 24: ready at two o'clock, it was more like four. I

2361
01:45:56,933 --> 01:45:58,612
Speaker 24: think it cost me two trays of beer.

2362
01:45:59,213 --> 01:46:01,892
Speaker 3: Yeah that's good value. Yeah, that's a good deal.

2363
01:46:01,933 --> 01:46:03,852
Speaker 4: Oh, eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is a able

2364
01:46:03,893 --> 01:46:05,932
Speaker 4: to call. Plenty of texts coming through on nineteen ninety

2365
01:46:05,933 --> 01:46:06,612
Speaker 4: two as well.

2366
01:46:06,853 --> 01:46:10,173
Speaker 2: The wife packs and unpacks the boxes, says Mike. This

2367
01:46:10,333 --> 01:46:12,732
Speaker 2: is the way the husband moves the boxes and drives

2368
01:46:12,772 --> 01:46:14,933
Speaker 2: the truck. That's how we do it. We've moved so

2369
01:46:14,973 --> 01:46:17,812
Speaker 2: many times it's not funny. I agree, yep on, So

2370
01:46:17,973 --> 01:46:20,293
Speaker 2: the wife packs and unpacks the boxes.

2371
01:46:20,372 --> 01:46:21,133
Speaker 3: Yeah, one hundred percent.

2372
01:46:21,293 --> 01:46:23,412
Speaker 2: What if the wife wants to do the carrying of

2373
01:46:23,532 --> 01:46:28,012
Speaker 2: the fisher and piker with the concrete up the steps

2374
01:46:28,053 --> 01:46:29,892
Speaker 2: to the bloody thing, Well.

2375
01:46:29,772 --> 01:46:31,492
Speaker 3: If she drives the truck, she might not crash it.

2376
01:46:31,572 --> 01:46:32,612
Speaker 3: So that's something true.

2377
01:46:33,372 --> 01:46:34,333
Speaker 2: You crash the truck.

2378
01:46:34,412 --> 01:46:36,412
Speaker 3: She can't do worse than meat it is nineteen to

2379
01:46:36,492 --> 01:46:37,412
Speaker 3: four back in a month.

2380
01:46:38,173 --> 01:46:41,532
Speaker 1: The big stories, the big issues, the big trends and

2381
01:46:41,893 --> 01:46:42,852
Speaker 1: everything in between.

2382
01:46:43,093 --> 01:46:46,333
Speaker 8: Matt Heath and Taylor Adams afternoons used talks that'd be.

2383
01:46:46,532 --> 01:46:47,852
Speaker 3: It is sixteen to four.

2384
01:46:48,333 --> 01:46:48,532
Speaker 6: Yeah.

2385
01:46:48,572 --> 01:46:50,852
Speaker 2: The question is does the new pad have steers or

2386
01:46:50,933 --> 01:46:53,253
Speaker 2: multi level? If not, do it yourself and it's multi

2387
01:46:53,333 --> 01:46:55,852
Speaker 2: level with steps, then perhaps get movers. I used to

2388
01:46:55,893 --> 01:46:58,692
Speaker 2: move furniture in winter for extra dollars for stairs.

2389
01:46:58,732 --> 01:47:01,892
Speaker 4: It's up an incline and it's quite an awkward entry point.

2390
01:47:02,093 --> 01:47:03,732
Speaker 4: So I am trying to figure that out of my

2391
01:47:03,772 --> 01:47:05,172
Speaker 4: head whether I've got to take it round.

2392
01:47:04,973 --> 01:47:06,052
Speaker 3: The back to try and get the beard.

2393
01:47:06,253 --> 01:47:09,372
Speaker 2: When you order a mover, yeah, like World Moving and

2394
01:47:09,452 --> 01:47:12,173
Speaker 2: star Ridge, do you have to say that you've got stairs.

2395
01:47:12,213 --> 01:47:14,013
Speaker 2: You have to say you've got You have to talk

2396
01:47:14,053 --> 01:47:16,812
Speaker 2: about the entrance, because say my house, I'm moving out

2397
01:47:16,812 --> 01:47:22,052
Speaker 2: of this three storied right. Yeah, So moving a massive

2398
01:47:22,333 --> 01:47:25,893
Speaker 2: chest of drawers from the third story up is a

2399
01:47:26,372 --> 01:47:28,572
Speaker 2: massive wound compared to taking it out of the bottom story.

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01:47:28,652 --> 01:47:28,772
Speaker 5: Right.

2401
01:47:28,853 --> 01:47:30,532
Speaker 3: You hope you pay a premium for that. If you

2402
01:47:30,572 --> 01:47:32,093
Speaker 3: want to grand piano up there.

2403
01:47:32,253 --> 01:47:35,852
Speaker 2: You should. You should pay more for the you know,

2404
01:47:37,973 --> 01:47:40,412
Speaker 2: once again sexist guys is the sext I love the show,

2405
01:47:40,492 --> 01:47:43,852
Speaker 2: but that's twice. First with the menopause elderly woman, that

2406
01:47:43,973 --> 01:47:44,732
Speaker 2: was you, Tyler.

2407
01:47:44,612 --> 01:47:45,372
Speaker 6: It was it was me.

2408
01:47:45,492 --> 01:47:46,892
Speaker 3: I apologize for that again.

2409
01:47:47,253 --> 01:47:49,973
Speaker 2: Now men are better at carrying heavy things. Women can

2410
01:47:50,013 --> 01:47:53,772
Speaker 2: carry as much as men. Social conditioning much boys? Can

2411
01:47:53,812 --> 01:47:55,212
Speaker 2: you carry more than mave.

2412
01:47:55,372 --> 01:48:00,253
Speaker 3: At the moment? I cannot? So that you go, Carl,

2413
01:48:00,333 --> 01:48:00,972
Speaker 3: how are you mate?

2414
01:48:01,893 --> 01:48:02,053
Speaker 5: Hey?

2415
01:48:02,133 --> 01:48:02,412
Speaker 15: Les?

2416
01:48:02,412 --> 01:48:04,253
Speaker 6: How are we doing good?

2417
01:48:04,412 --> 01:48:05,052
Speaker 2: Thanks buddy?

2418
01:48:06,053 --> 01:48:06,253
Speaker 6: Hey.

2419
01:48:06,372 --> 01:48:08,293
Speaker 15: So one of the one of the boys at work

2420
01:48:08,532 --> 01:48:10,973
Speaker 15: moving and so me and another guy decided to, you know,

2421
01:48:11,013 --> 01:48:12,772
Speaker 15: we'll take our ut over and help him out. And

2422
01:48:12,853 --> 01:48:15,732
Speaker 15: we rock up to their house. It's a it's a

2423
01:48:15,772 --> 01:48:19,812
Speaker 15: beautiful big house. So there's about five of them family

2424
01:48:19,893 --> 01:48:23,492
Speaker 15: living in it. And we started loading up our youths

2425
01:48:23,572 --> 01:48:26,652
Speaker 15: from what was already in the lounge. I need to

2426
01:48:26,652 --> 01:48:28,492
Speaker 15: find out the rest of the house had then been packed.

2427
01:48:29,412 --> 01:48:32,532
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean that's the curse of having a you

2428
01:48:32,652 --> 01:48:34,412
Speaker 4: to a trailer. Right, you're one of those mates that

2429
01:48:34,532 --> 01:48:37,412
Speaker 4: everyone knows. I'll just give old Cole he's got his you.

2430
01:48:37,652 --> 01:48:38,293
Speaker 4: He will help out.

2431
01:48:38,532 --> 01:48:41,253
Speaker 2: Never never never own a flatbeg truck either. That's another thing.

2432
01:48:41,293 --> 01:48:43,013
Speaker 2: Wouldn't never let it out knowing that you do.

2433
01:48:43,772 --> 01:48:45,213
Speaker 4: So what did what did you say, col when you

2434
01:48:45,253 --> 01:48:47,892
Speaker 4: got around there and it was just a complete disaster

2435
01:48:48,013 --> 01:48:49,053
Speaker 4: or nothing of being packed up?

2436
01:48:49,093 --> 01:48:50,333
Speaker 3: Did you just turn around a bug off?

2437
01:48:51,293 --> 01:48:53,412
Speaker 15: We we wanted to make but we thought, you know what,

2438
01:48:53,532 --> 01:48:55,612
Speaker 15: let's let's just help them get it done. And so

2439
01:48:57,093 --> 01:49:00,013
Speaker 15: it took two days. But the cheap, you know, we

2440
01:49:00,333 --> 01:49:02,532
Speaker 15: try to drop little hant set. It'd be nice to

2441
01:49:02,572 --> 01:49:04,253
Speaker 15: go and get a couple of beers, thinking some fish

2442
01:49:04,293 --> 01:49:06,772
Speaker 15: and chips, you know, for helping you out, and not

2443
01:49:06,933 --> 01:49:09,652
Speaker 15: a scooby. We would not the beer or any perssoner.

2444
01:49:10,812 --> 01:49:14,452
Speaker 2: So are these people still in your life, Cole No

2445
01:49:14,772 --> 01:49:15,692
Speaker 2: No with their company?

2446
01:49:16,133 --> 01:49:20,652
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, yeah, absolute absolute takers, absolute scom Yeah, that's.

2447
01:49:20,612 --> 01:49:23,133
Speaker 2: Absolutely should be prison synesis for.

2448
01:49:23,173 --> 01:49:25,213
Speaker 3: Their kind of that's a massive tasering right there.

2449
01:49:26,452 --> 01:49:29,852
Speaker 2: Someone should introduce a members bill. I planned a house

2450
01:49:29,973 --> 01:49:32,532
Speaker 2: move but canceled the friends who were going to help

2451
01:49:32,572 --> 01:49:34,492
Speaker 2: because I had to work because of a snowstorm. The

2452
01:49:34,572 --> 01:49:37,932
Speaker 2: mates turned up anyway and got moved without me lifting

2453
01:49:37,973 --> 01:49:42,892
Speaker 2: a thing. So you were great mates. Yeah, so you canceled,

2454
01:49:42,933 --> 01:49:44,612
Speaker 2: but they still turned up and did the job.

2455
01:49:44,532 --> 01:49:46,372
Speaker 4: For you out of the mate. Yeah, that makes you

2456
01:49:46,452 --> 01:49:50,372
Speaker 4: want a round, Joe. You had a great experience moving

2457
01:49:50,492 --> 01:49:51,652
Speaker 4: last last time you did it?

2458
01:49:52,812 --> 01:49:55,372
Speaker 20: Yes, yes, So me and my wife bought a house

2459
01:49:55,452 --> 01:49:59,293
Speaker 20: in twenty twenty three, moved actually so we've actually just

2460
01:49:59,333 --> 01:50:02,372
Speaker 20: been in the place now two years now weeks ago

2461
01:50:02,572 --> 01:50:05,532
Speaker 20: with the anniversary. But we started packing like the month

2462
01:50:05,692 --> 01:50:11,492
Speaker 20: before smart and then come come the day that we

2463
01:50:11,572 --> 01:50:14,173
Speaker 20: got the heat keys for the house. I had the

2464
01:50:14,253 --> 01:50:15,973
Speaker 20: day off. I did a couple of trips in the

2465
01:50:16,133 --> 01:50:18,812
Speaker 20: in the car, delivered the important stuff, you know, the

2466
01:50:18,893 --> 01:50:22,333
Speaker 20: bath ridge, the booze, you know, well sort of stuff.

2467
01:50:22,412 --> 01:50:25,652
Speaker 5: Yea, yeah, the important stuff.

2468
01:50:25,933 --> 01:50:29,893
Speaker 20: Then the next morning picked up the truck that we

2469
01:50:30,013 --> 01:50:32,812
Speaker 20: rented with my mate who was driving it, got back

2470
01:50:32,853 --> 01:50:37,053
Speaker 20: to the house full your load at the truck when

2471
01:50:37,253 --> 01:50:41,133
Speaker 20: delivered it back, left a few people at the new

2472
01:50:41,173 --> 01:50:44,572
Speaker 20: house and they started moving beds around and all that

2473
01:50:44,692 --> 01:50:46,892
Speaker 20: sort of thing. We went back to the second load,

2474
01:50:46,973 --> 01:50:50,213
Speaker 20: which was the last load, and by the time we

2475
01:50:50,372 --> 01:50:52,972
Speaker 20: got back, all the bedrooms were set up, the kitchen

2476
01:50:53,093 --> 01:50:55,652
Speaker 20: was ninety percent set up. You know, it's okay. The

2477
01:50:55,732 --> 01:50:59,213
Speaker 20: garage was packed full of boxes still, but we were

2478
01:50:59,293 --> 01:51:02,093
Speaker 20: sitting down drinking peers by three o'clock in.

2479
01:51:02,093 --> 01:51:05,572
Speaker 3: The afternoon, This is like military precision.

2480
01:51:08,853 --> 01:51:10,892
Speaker 20: It was the best move I've had in years.

2481
01:51:11,213 --> 01:51:14,652
Speaker 2: See that it is prillivant. The starting, the starting to

2482
01:51:14,812 --> 01:51:18,053
Speaker 2: pack your boxes a long time out is the key

2483
01:51:18,093 --> 01:51:20,133
Speaker 2: because then you know you need put an hour in

2484
01:51:20,213 --> 01:51:22,692
Speaker 2: a night for a month or you know, even two

2485
01:51:22,772 --> 01:51:24,333
Speaker 2: weeks and you're there.

2486
01:51:24,692 --> 01:51:27,412
Speaker 20: We're going it every weekend where we just basically went

2487
01:51:27,492 --> 01:51:29,612
Speaker 20: through everything. We went, what do we need for the

2488
01:51:29,692 --> 01:51:31,852
Speaker 20: next month, Well, we can do away with all this stuff.

2489
01:51:32,053 --> 01:51:32,892
Speaker 18: And it was packed.

2490
01:51:33,133 --> 01:51:34,572
Speaker 3: Yeah, I tell you what did you did?

2491
01:51:34,612 --> 01:51:36,852
Speaker 2: You get a skip in my last time I moved houses.

2492
01:51:37,612 --> 01:51:39,372
Speaker 2: You really decide what you want to move And I

2493
01:51:39,412 --> 01:51:43,013
Speaker 2: filled an entire skip with rubbish that we bought that

2494
01:51:43,093 --> 01:51:46,652
Speaker 2: we didn't need. And I was absolutely disgusted myself the

2495
01:51:46,812 --> 01:51:48,013
Speaker 2: absolute crap we had.

2496
01:51:49,293 --> 01:51:52,293
Speaker 20: Well, no, we because we actually moved from a single

2497
01:51:52,372 --> 01:51:55,772
Speaker 20: level house, three bedroom, nice big garage, nice big yards

2498
01:51:56,093 --> 01:51:59,253
Speaker 20: to a now a three bedroom multi level house. There's

2499
01:51:59,293 --> 01:52:01,333
Speaker 20: got a very little section on it and all that,

2500
01:52:02,013 --> 01:52:03,973
Speaker 20: so we actually went, well, we're not going to need

2501
01:52:04,013 --> 01:52:07,452
Speaker 20: all these you know, outdoor furniture and all that time.

2502
01:52:07,532 --> 01:52:10,532
Speaker 20: I was selling up like a month before and on

2503
01:52:10,652 --> 01:52:12,133
Speaker 20: fake stook just to get rid of it.

2504
01:52:12,293 --> 01:52:13,772
Speaker 2: You're beautiful, beautiful.

2505
01:52:13,772 --> 01:52:16,932
Speaker 4: When are you moving, tyleru at about a month actually,

2506
01:52:17,093 --> 01:52:18,652
Speaker 4: so made can start tonight.

2507
01:52:18,732 --> 01:52:22,892
Speaker 20: You listen to Joe, just get your big boxes, start

2508
01:52:22,933 --> 01:52:26,412
Speaker 20: packing everything you don't need, label it up, and you

2509
01:52:26,612 --> 01:52:29,652
Speaker 20: label stuff like fragile. And we have one box that

2510
01:52:29,812 --> 01:52:32,012
Speaker 20: was named Cuddy Stabby things.

2511
01:52:33,173 --> 01:52:36,412
Speaker 2: Yes, smart, Yeah, that's that's another good part of it, Joe,

2512
01:52:36,452 --> 01:52:40,133
Speaker 2: that you've got to do is the accurate labeling of

2513
01:52:40,253 --> 01:52:43,572
Speaker 2: the boxes for the unpacking, because the unpackings are punished

2514
01:52:43,612 --> 01:52:43,892
Speaker 2: as well.

2515
01:52:44,933 --> 01:52:47,893
Speaker 20: Yeah, exactly, like bedroom one, two and three. And the

2516
01:52:47,973 --> 01:52:50,372
Speaker 20: first thing you do is when you walk into the place,

2517
01:52:50,933 --> 01:52:53,053
Speaker 20: get a little posted notes. Put them on the door

2518
01:52:53,053 --> 01:52:55,852
Speaker 20: of bedroom one, bedroom two, bedroom three. Yes, so that

2519
01:52:55,973 --> 01:52:58,253
Speaker 20: everyone that's moving a box can look at it and

2520
01:52:58,412 --> 01:52:59,372
Speaker 20: take it straight there.

2521
01:52:59,853 --> 01:53:02,253
Speaker 2: We need to get you into the upper echelons of

2522
01:53:02,572 --> 01:53:04,812
Speaker 2: military with that kind of precision that you're running.

2523
01:53:04,893 --> 01:53:04,973
Speaker 18: Ja.

2524
01:53:06,572 --> 01:53:11,812
Speaker 20: Yeah, my brother moved. My brother moved the month before

2525
01:53:11,893 --> 01:53:16,532
Speaker 20: we did, and they were moving from two houses into

2526
01:53:16,652 --> 01:53:21,253
Speaker 20: one big, massive house. And they hired a truck and

2527
01:53:21,293 --> 01:53:24,372
Speaker 20: a couple of guys. Well, they told them when they

2528
01:53:24,492 --> 01:53:27,532
Speaker 20: closed it, Yes, you've got to move this stuff up

2529
01:53:27,572 --> 01:53:29,213
Speaker 20: the stairs. Got to take it to the bedrooms and

2530
01:53:29,253 --> 01:53:32,253
Speaker 20: all that. They turned up on site and they just

2531
01:53:32,492 --> 01:53:37,093
Speaker 20: unloaded everything into the garage quickly got my brother's father

2532
01:53:37,173 --> 01:53:39,852
Speaker 20: in law to pay for it, and then they scarf it.

2533
01:53:42,013 --> 01:53:44,772
Speaker 20: Then my brother's mother in law turned up and went, well,

2534
01:53:44,812 --> 01:53:47,093
Speaker 20: why is the stuff all in the garage. It's all

2535
01:53:47,133 --> 01:53:49,892
Speaker 20: supposed to be in the bedrooms. So then they did

2536
01:53:49,933 --> 01:53:52,732
Speaker 20: the emergency call out and we were there until like

2537
01:53:53,293 --> 01:53:56,932
Speaker 20: eleven o'clock at night, lagging this furniture up three flights

2538
01:53:56,973 --> 01:54:00,572
Speaker 20: of stairs just to get them settled in.

2539
01:54:00,933 --> 01:54:02,852
Speaker 3: Yeah, you learned from that one.

2540
01:54:02,933 --> 01:54:03,053
Speaker 8: Though.

2541
01:54:03,572 --> 01:54:05,492
Speaker 2: There is a mind trick that you can do when

2542
01:54:05,492 --> 01:54:08,293
Speaker 2: you're helping someone moves. You just think about it as

2543
01:54:08,412 --> 01:54:08,892
Speaker 2: a workout.

2544
01:54:09,213 --> 01:54:09,412
Speaker 6: Yep.

2545
01:54:09,652 --> 01:54:12,013
Speaker 2: So I've done this. I've been forced to help people move,

2546
01:54:12,093 --> 01:54:13,973
Speaker 2: and I go, okay, this is this is making me

2547
01:54:14,053 --> 01:54:16,412
Speaker 2: stronger and my squats and I'm not using my back

2548
01:54:16,572 --> 01:54:17,132
Speaker 2: like a crane.

2549
01:54:17,293 --> 01:54:18,253
Speaker 3: This is my gym show.

2550
01:54:18,293 --> 01:54:20,772
Speaker 2: I'm getting buff doing this, I'm getting leg day, going

2551
01:54:20,812 --> 01:54:23,532
Speaker 2: on cardio, the whole thing. This is better than the gym.

2552
01:54:23,612 --> 01:54:26,412
Speaker 2: This is the ultimate CrossFit, and then you can feel

2553
01:54:26,452 --> 01:54:28,293
Speaker 2: like you're getting something more than just some fish and

2554
01:54:28,372 --> 01:54:31,173
Speaker 2: chips and beers. Speaking voices of this textas says Matt, Mate,

2555
01:54:31,253 --> 01:54:33,892
Speaker 2: Tyler's been dropping enough hunts and still waiting for your

2556
01:54:33,933 --> 01:54:37,413
Speaker 2: offer on air to give him on the day the move.

2557
01:54:37,653 --> 01:54:40,733
Speaker 3: Yeah, so what do you say, mate? What's your ELI

2558
01:54:40,853 --> 01:54:46,653
Speaker 3: rate on this shows? It's going to be cardio? You know,

2559
01:54:46,812 --> 01:54:48,613
Speaker 3: just think of it as as a gym workout.

2560
01:54:48,693 --> 01:54:49,253
Speaker 14: That's all it is.

2561
01:54:49,533 --> 01:54:51,133
Speaker 2: How many beers? How many fish and chips?

2562
01:54:52,373 --> 01:54:52,693
Speaker 8: I want?

2563
01:54:52,812 --> 01:54:54,933
Speaker 2: I want three treats. I want a hot dog. I

2564
01:54:54,973 --> 01:54:58,012
Speaker 2: want a bit of fish and something nice like snapper. Okay,

2565
01:54:58,293 --> 01:55:02,613
Speaker 2: snapper not just yep? And I want so hot dog.

2566
01:55:02,653 --> 01:55:04,453
Speaker 3: It's only five hours of your time. You want to snapper?

2567
01:55:04,493 --> 01:55:06,772
Speaker 2: An onion sausage, any fish bites?

2568
01:55:07,333 --> 01:55:08,893
Speaker 3: No to get out with that?

2569
01:55:08,973 --> 01:55:10,013
Speaker 2: Maybe your pineapple ring?

2570
01:55:10,173 --> 01:55:14,493
Speaker 3: Oh, we can do a pin, some scollops on special.

2571
01:55:14,493 --> 01:55:16,852
Speaker 3: I'll get you some scollops, all right, done? We put

2572
01:55:16,933 --> 01:55:17,373
Speaker 3: that on there.

2573
01:55:17,413 --> 01:55:21,213
Speaker 2: And yeah, and just some something something for Tracy as well. Yeah,

2574
01:55:21,253 --> 01:55:22,613
Speaker 2: something nice, nice and crafty.

2575
01:55:22,772 --> 01:55:25,693
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, nice and crafty and a chocolate donut. Right done?

2576
01:55:25,772 --> 01:55:30,133
Speaker 3: Happy days back very shortly. It is seven minutes to four.

2577
01:55:31,373 --> 01:55:34,733
Speaker 1: The big stories, the big issues, the big trends, and

2578
01:55:35,093 --> 01:55:36,052
Speaker 1: everything in between.

2579
01:55:36,293 --> 01:55:40,972
Speaker 8: Matt Heath and Taylor Adams Afternoons Used Talks, B News

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01:55:41,013 --> 01:55:41,453
Speaker 8: Talks B.

2581
01:55:41,573 --> 01:55:42,733
Speaker 3: It is five to four.

2582
01:55:43,173 --> 01:55:45,333
Speaker 2: I had to move house after have a sickted me challenging,

2583
01:55:45,453 --> 01:55:47,893
Speaker 2: says this textre. Another one says Bunnings have tape that

2584
01:55:47,973 --> 01:55:51,173
Speaker 2: has names on it for bedroom, lounge, bathroom, et cetera.

2585
01:55:51,333 --> 01:55:53,812
Speaker 3: That's brilliant, game changer, game change.

2586
01:55:53,853 --> 01:55:57,092
Speaker 2: All right, thank you so much for listening to the show. Everyone.

2587
01:55:57,373 --> 01:55:59,493
Speaker 2: We've had a great chat today. I've really enjoyed today.

2588
01:56:00,333 --> 01:56:02,812
Speaker 2: Very fun show. Lots of fantastic calls and text thanks

2589
01:56:02,853 --> 01:56:04,932
Speaker 2: for those. The full Mat and Tile Afternoons podcast will

2590
01:56:04,933 --> 01:56:06,133
Speaker 2: be out in an hour, So if you must have

2591
01:56:06,373 --> 01:56:09,493
Speaker 2: chats on road rage and threatening note left on an

2592
01:56:09,533 --> 01:56:12,892
Speaker 2: Auckland car window and tips on moving houses, then follow

2593
01:56:12,933 --> 01:56:16,293
Speaker 2: the mat in Tyler Afternoons podcast where you get your pods.

2594
01:56:17,013 --> 01:56:19,892
Speaker 2: The powerful Heather Duplessy Allen is up next. But Tyler,

2595
01:56:20,053 --> 01:56:21,573
Speaker 2: why am I playing this song?

2596
01:56:21,893 --> 01:56:22,053
Speaker 5: Oh?

2597
01:56:22,213 --> 01:56:25,653
Speaker 4: Great tune from Daft Punkers Harder, Better, Fastest, Stronger.

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01:56:25,933 --> 01:56:26,133
Speaker 12: Yeah.

2599
01:56:26,333 --> 01:56:28,132
Speaker 3: Yeah, good show because hopefully we're.

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Speaker 4: Gonna have some juice up freaks competing in Las Vegas

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Speaker 4: and mayfid the Enharts games.

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Speaker 2: You go to it again?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, love it. It's impressive.

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Speaker 2: All right, have a great afternoon everyone, and until tomorrow,

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Speaker 2: give a taste of Kiwi from us.

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Speaker 1: All right then, for more from News Talks B listen

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Speaker 1: live on air or online, and keep our shows with

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